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@AngelTekkerz Askeladd is great, but no, he is not as good as Thorfinn, plus he is very different from Thorfinn. And there are other anime that had multiple characters on the board. You must be a casual.
@@AngelTekkerz It's quality of quantity. I've watched easily over 150 anime, but it's not about the number that you've watched, but about what you choose to watch. You don't want Thorfinn on the board because Askeladd is there, which makes 0 sense when there is no 1 character per anime rule.
They got two things wrong. 1. Lelouch can't spam his Geass or it will go out of control like when he accidentally controlled his sister. 2. He also can't use Geass on someone more than once. Geass is powerful but it's not as broken as they're making it seem. Lastly, they contradicted themselves because they claim Light is smarter even though he got outsmarted by Near whereas Lelouch actually succeeded in his plan
@@ShonenShowdownI'm sensing some bias here how you going to destroy and eliminate Demon Slayer in jjk in High School of the Gods like that and just going to Hype up Sonic I know how your ass going to do one piece in this damn video you going to glaze the hell out of that
3 times He did that 1st one was with kallen in the shower 2nd one was with MAO on a big screen And third one was with his own brother Not to mention the point of the geas power is not how powerfull it is But how you use it Lelouch uses his smarts in order to use the power more efeciently He even erased his memory against mao and then put it together that he did that based on susaku's convo
@@joelidehen3671 corect Which is why when i hear people that hes "smarter" then lelouch i laugh at them Sure light is smart but he aint smarter then a guy who thinks 5 to 10 steps ahead of his oponents Yes lelouch has lost on some ocasions but thats becouse of variables like apearing of his siblings mid batle or just suzaku fing with his plans with a new model of his knightmare Hell tricking a giy that can read your mind on a huge distance from one side of the city to the other 2 times in a row is in itself something that requires a lot of IQ
@@joelidehen3671 suzaku was the oposite of lelouch He was so naive but thank god he saw that he couldnt do it fron within the system The only thing i can understand suzaku actions for is euphemia The other actions were purely of guilt becouse he killed his own father but he took the worst path trying to do what lelouch didnt agree on since lelouch was originally part of that system and knows it cant be dismentled from inside when the top people are all Dic k s
These two acting like the Geass takes away from Lelouches intelligence. Lelouche was going against people that had a better understand of the power system and could even just ignore it in some cases and still came out on top. Light was 100% anonymous and no one had any fucking idea how his powers worked at all and he was picked out in a country of millions fast as fuck, and figured out something completely supernatrual outside of the realm of human possibility because he's a chucklenut
Geass for sure is broken, but that's not all Lelouch uses to accomplish his goals. While Light is fighting L's small team, a team which he has intel on since he is literally in the team, he wins against L. But as soon as light goes against Near and his team which is quite irrevelant to be fair, Near defeats Light. While Light is fighting incredibly small police forces trying to catch him, Lelouch is fighting against an EMPIRE that controls 2/3 of the world. That empire has OP mechs, nuclear weapons, and their leader Charles even has a geass himself. While Lelouch has to win a whole war with only the help of some rebels, Light only has to outsmart one person with high IQ, and just do lots of convincing against somebody that knows nothing about his powers. Convincing people to join your side and make them fight in a war with a big minority requires way more wits than doing some convincing to a few people that you're not a supervillain. Light gets caught because of his dumb mistakes. He gets outsmarted in the end, Lelouch doesnt.
Bruh I never seen Light Yagami play chess!! Lol naw they are acting like Lelouch didn't do half the things in Code Geass without the Geass. He literally had pre-recorded whole conversations for people 😂. Had people talking to themselves while he was on the battlefield 😂😂
most of his feats are with geass and some are just an ass pull there is no way he calculated some bs and deactivated a bomb with his mech in like 0.01 sec
@actiongames9613 just like there's no way Light would of been able to pull off that whole "I'll give the Deathnote away and watch it come back to me just in time to kill the previous owner-3 month- scheme
Lelouch in the same week or day already knew the limitation of the Geass and had fight people who had mind reading powers and many more Lelouch had to fight empire with giant robots which his mind control can’t get
Light never manipulated Misa, she started out already wanting to do whatever he asked of her and also even outside of intellect feats (which Lelouch is still better on sheerly by actually winning at the end) he has much more depth and dimensions than Light
The problem is that they were arguing about who was more intelligent when the question who is the best character. And Light is better no question. Way more nuanced and his descent into evil and madness was done way better than Lelouch's whole character.
@nikolakrstic8079 literally the opposite considering Light was already screwed in the head and evil laughing by episode 1 but ok Also how is "I'm a god because I have good grades" more nuanced than someone who is both the leader of the rebels, the loving brother and the new evil emperor all at the same time in a way that somehow made sense?
@@alondvorkin2762 there was still steps he took to go that far. At the start he wouldn't do to his father what he did in the end. At the start of season 2 he was ready to kill his sister too etc How absolute power consumed him absolutlly was done perfect. Meanwhile whole season 2 in Code Geass was a mess. Lelouch is a great character don't get me wrong but I think he suffers from how the show itself was to chaotic going back and forth from school teen schenanigans to military takeover. Etc just the whole 2nd season was a mess ans I would need to write an essay to explain it all. I'm obviosly not gonna do that
@yaJA._. not the argument I'd use for your case💀 "the author, who's extremely biased against gojo and hates him, agrees with me." You're not saying or explaining much, lol
Cory and Gabe felt like they were eliminating based on their personal opinions. Gabe was rage baiting as always and Cory just missed the mark completely (how does the same person get rid of ed, gon and eren, some of shounen's best written MCs😭). Rob was initially the only one judging objectively until the crash out (though Gabe seemed to be eliminating people that rob seemed to like)
to be fair its not like we were ranking them in any order we just was removing as we went, I personally don't think any of those 3 are number one and that was the spot that mattered the most
@TheRealCrocYT I'm not really sure about that, because they kept saying that certain shows are shows meant to be in the final stages of the video implying that order did matter. Not to mention that "process of elimination" usually has to do with removal in ascending order of quality. But I do get what you mean, the same character would have won anyway, however it's interesting to realize that with different characters in the final stages vegeta could possibly have been eliminated.
Light being smarter than Lelouch is crazy work man said one character based on similar earth Lelouch is fighting a successful British empire and its military might
27:10 I'll give you a line Gabe. (Your going to be alright, You just stumbled over a stone in the road, it means nothing, Your goal lies far beyond this doesn't it. I'm sure you'll overcome this, you'll walk again soon!) Guts literally quoted an entire sentence to Griffith when he left the band of the hawk, Of course Guts be spitting what you mean here ua-cam.com/video/-4PcHYCgXtc/v-deo.html
what he said at the campfire of dreams to (idk the quote off the top of my head) and why do I always notice these things when they're gone about the band of the hawk
19:17 I disagree. There's many moments from season 1-3 that Eren was great. Eren vs Annie, him using the founding titan powers for a little bit, him trusting levi in the forest, Eren and Armin vs colossal titan
@@Vaultdwellerchris You have to thoroughly understand Eren's character in order to understand this scene, which is difficult because he's one of the most complex characters ever created. Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it's bad lol.
@ that’s a coo out cuz there’s a lot about wrens character. I read the manga weekly . I understand a lot of his character but there’s a time in the manga/anime where his character goes left
If we talking anime as a whole yeah ash may be bad but it shows both ash and pikachu so imma guess it’s with the two of them and they do have a lot of character development especially in x y z and aún and moon and you can’t forget about movies but they aren’t the best picks
@9:30 So... Lelouche's Geass can only be used on a person once. Which means there would be a lot of planning revolving around what single command to give a person. It's not just free mind control. Not saying he is or isn't smarter than Light, just clarifying
As much I love vegeta he not better than guts because guts is not main character who want to be a hero he uses his rage, resentment, and despair as weapon to protect him and the people he cares. He does what any people do when someone bites you bites back and other notes for the people who saying “ uhh well every people he meets ends up dying 🤓.” The reason is that he doesn’t care about them but because he started to care too much. The only reason he look aggressive and just doesn’t care about life because is to hide his wounded heart. As for an example when he fought Slug Baron after the fight was over Baron’s daughter swears vengeance upon guts. All he can do is smile because he knows that she have a reason to live, but deep down he can’t stop breaking down because he legitimately feels sad for what she had to endure, at what he did to her father which caused her to hate him. Guts is simply too humane in an inhumane, unreasonable and cruel world and that only the beginning story of berserk. Also my favorite quote from guts is “He died doing what he wanted, no matter what right? I bet he was happy.”
I rock with Vegeta but THE BEST? And better written than guts? Guts is the GOAT and his development is one of the best in the fiction that I’ve seen. I lowkey feel like he was gettin slandered cus Guts is more than just some line he says, dialogue extends beyond something you can just quote for some cool bars. But for one line by him my favorite dialogue from him was in the bonfire of dreams when he’s explaining how everyone’s got large goals, hopes, and dreams and each light represents that but guts says “my flame ain’t here”.
That will be forever ongoing discussion hahaha. I like the character writing for all those main characters, among those three i actually favor Ichigo from character perspective and i say that as a one piece fan. But to rip Luffy off that early was a crime 😅 Naruto was a counter crime lol and sorry the DB characters are way less layered than any of those but i guess everyone has their taste
@4:16 I already knew what was going to happen and all I can say is that I have never disagreed with a choice so hard in my life. Gintoki is not only the best mc, but just character in fiction. I look in the mirror and he is the man I want to be/see in the mirror. Real ones know the true beauty of gintoki
Oh nah Lelouch is better character than Light. But smartness Lelouch has university level intelligence like Light. His monologue damn near perfect compare to Light. Light death was terrible and Lelouch’s death have meaning to change the world and save people he knows of suffering. I think Light didn’t really have good ending like Eren. It’s just Light was cocky and arrogant brat compared to lovable Lelouch. Eren’s trash lets better real. Vegeta over Goku is trash. Goku has more popularity in my opinion throughout series.
just like I said under another comment I have to say it here too.. The problem is that they were arguing about who was more intelligent when the question who is the best character. And Light is better no question. Way more nuanced and his descent into evil and madness was done way better than Lelouch's whole character.
Idk man the stuff lelouch pulls off troughout the show Especially the 3 prerecorded convos seem like hes above university level of smarts Dont forget he uses his geass with his smarts
@@nikolakrstic8079 The thing is Light character died after L’s death for me. He became less calculating and didn’t use deathnote more as much Lelouch easily the goat as character. He influenced so many people compare to Light. Sure he manipulated people like Lelouch, but the planning and intelligence is more towards Lelouch for me. Lelouch evilness suck compared to Light.
I think it's funny talking about Vegeta blowing up the planet and trying to sell it as a wrong thing to do but Goku got zeno to make a tournament for each universe where losing one gets wiped out and why because he thinks it would be a fun idea
Lmao, man, I swear I almost clicked off this video when they were talking about removing Gintoki (not Gintama)! That just goes to show that they’ve never even watched or paid attention to it. Gintama is one of the greatest Shonen anime off all time! When I first started watching Gintama I was just like “Man, this show is so damn boring”. But once I actually got down to where the show picks up man. It is one of the greatest anime of all time! I swear that Gintama is literally the only anime that has made me laugh, get mad, hype, depressed, and almost cry. Legitimately the only people who talk down on Gintama I can guarantee you with all the money that I have just in my pocket which is about ($500) than Gintama is better than about 90% of Shonen anime. And I swear on my life I will die on that hill! Ask anyone who’s actually watched Gintama(all the way through) and I can guarantee you that they will say the samething! The problem with most people is they either only watched Gintama from UA-cam shorts, top 10 videos, or have only watched the first few episodes! Because I swear to you that anyone and I mean “ANYONE” that has actually watched it all the way through will say it’s one of the greatest Shonen anime of all time! It’s only the ones who’ve watched Naruto, DBZ, and One Piece only that will talk bad about Gintama. It’s sad, smh. But it goes to show the bias that people have. Since Guts made it to the top I’ll say y’all kinda redeemed yourselves lol. In my personal opinion, Guts is the most well written manga character ever period! And y’all say he killed a kid(who I’m assuming y’all are talking about is Rosine). But y’all also didn’t bring up the fact that one, she literally has killed 100s of people! And in those hundreds of people she killed like 80-90% of those were children. And that’s just actually killed or had killed. That’s not even mentioning all of the homes and food that her so called “Fairies” destroyed. And then not to mention she was also one of the Apostles who helped killed the Hawks members during the Eclipse. But then again, Rosine is just a child! A poor child who was abused her whole life and didn’t know anything other than abuse, and anger. And she just wanted a place away from adults, abuse(mentally, physically, and sect-ually) and the things that they do. She just wanted to live away from all of the drama, pain, and suffering. And I can’t blame her at all. Rosine was just a kid who wanted to live her life as that. But wasn’t able to. She was mentally, emotionally, and physically just all around broken which makes her situation that much more saddening. Especially me being the father of a daughter around her age I can’t help but hurt for her and her situation. But that is just one of the many MANY reasons as to why I love Berserk so so much! Berserk is by far and away my favorite manga of all time! R.I.P. Kentaro Muira. You are an amazing writer and one of the only few people who are able convey such a profound, heartfelt, passionate, inspiring, depressing with sprinkles of happiness and joy message within your writings and stories. And without a doubt one of the greatest artists of not only this generation but of all time! You didn’t have to go that hard with Berserk! Lol. I’m sorry, I turned this into a dang manga/anime review or something 🤦🏾♂️ lol. But I still feel the way I feel anyway!!! Lol
I didnt warch all of code geass but from what i remember lelouch cannot spam his ability, also i like how they were talking about the smarts and went straight to the abilities💀 Ngl though that be me sometimes in Rob's position.
naruto is a grown ass man also naruto: spams se*y justu in the middle of fight that has stakes of world i believe character like luffy and lelouch does not need development because their character are appealing from the beginning
Bruh it’s guts. Man birthed to a corpse. Got Donavaned. Lost his girl in something I’ve never seen any character like vegeta has ever went through. The eclipse. And everything in the manga? Na it’s guts.
Simon destroys Kamina. As much as Kamina is an amazing and lovable character, he just doesn’t have anywhere near the amount of depth, development, themes or conclusion to be above Simon imo.
How can you choose Vegeta over any of them? He is Not Even the best in his own Show. Taking down should be a Crime. Shonen Showdown you are the only real one here
Lelouch accidentaly forced his childhood friend/sibling/idk into wanting to commit genocide, absolute dumbass. (he cant spam the eye though, really needed to clarify that)
Yeah rob and Corey were bugging luffy would be hella annoying in real life the way he acts he’s too dumb he would honestly piss everyone off if you can’t see that your bias and it’s showing
I’d say from war arc till now he’s been the same he doesn’t really grow. He’s a good character but he doesn’t have a character arc the same way Robin did or sanji did in wholecake
At the beginning of the show lelouch toald cc that he was about to deal with britania anyways and that the geass is just a ability to achieve his goal faster
The fact that he said Luffy is ride or die in comparison to Naruto is funny as hell. So you just forget the lengths this man went through to get Sasuke back. Idgaf what anyone talking about, that right there is the definition of ride or die. He literally said you're coming with me or we're both going to die. And he definitely was down to throw hands with everyone what the f*** are yall on? LOL just cause he could talk a few people down doesn't mean he didn't pull up with all the smoke. I mean for the Pain fight he literally popped up in a puff of all the smoke and took 2 out. Fully whooped nagato BEFORE talking to him. It's not just talk. It's beat your ass and then tell you what you're doing wrong and giving you a chance to change or get your ass beat some more. He is not a hostage negotiator, he is your daddy giving you a talk after he whoops your ass.
YOU BASTARDSSSS!!!!💀💀💀💀💀💀 Taking out Sonic after Gojo left the tier list is purely diabolical.😨😨😨 Like I get the expression "Gotta Go Fast" but this is taking it too literally. LIKE BRUH WTF!!!😤😠
Honestly I’m a huge luffy fan but bro is kind of right about who I’d rather spend my time with 😂 really got me thinking lol but luffy loyalty and leadership is unmatched fs
2:00 Bro what do you mean? Gojo, Saitama are both FAR more popular and recognizable than Simon And even those two get overshadowed by Goku and Luffy I'm not saying they're objectively better, 'cause they're not, it's subjective... But you can't deny their popularity, etc.
The fact that Luffy made it that far is insane. I'm not mad with Vegeta winning, there are some characters that went out early because ya'll were fooling around a bit, but all in all not bad.
Light has like a Batman level of prep in thought to not get caught because he can’t afford it lelouch will always have a chip on his shoulder since he can control people without having to write something down regardless of lights eye. So light is kind of smarter since he has to think deeper.
Light had to bust out the Rem cheat code to get rid of L as a last ditch effort whereas Lelouch played Schneizel and excecuted his plan perfectly. That should be enough to settle who is smarter between the two.
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yall gotta make a new video this not good enought vegata not better then goku period. i would've took his ass out the moment goku went out.
Never let them cook again 😭
@@Shadow-Astro69 again!
Bro Erens gone, mobs gone, yugi stayed long enough so it's fine, Naruto gone, dekus gone....bruh
They cooked a bit vegeta is the goat
They’ve cooked letting vegeta win
HOW CAN THEY DO THAT TO MEEEE WHYYYYY IMMA COME FOR THEM
Not even having Thorfinn on the board is criminal. So many spots wasted on bad characters.
askeladd is just as good as Thorfinn and he's in the vid
@AngelTekkerz Askeladd is great, but no, he is not as good as Thorfinn, plus he is very different from Thorfinn. And there are other anime that had multiple characters on the board. You must be a casual.
@@ParadoX-os I don't get what being a casual has to do with this. Even though I'm not, I probably watched more animes than you.
@@ParadoX-os Tell me how Thorfinn is better. Because of his change in season 2?
@@AngelTekkerz It's quality of quantity. I've watched easily over 150 anime, but it's not about the number that you've watched, but about what you choose to watch. You don't want Thorfinn on the board because Askeladd is there, which makes 0 sense when there is no 1 character per anime rule.
I see Gabe...this video's gonna be a mess. *edit* the other dude ain't no better!!
I mean he is most entertaining part
@@tadartadar8778no your tripping I watch these videos to agree not to get mad
Gave is so fucking annoying I crash out whenever I see his ass
im def not as bad as Gabe lol
@@TheRealCrocYT shiiiiiiiiiii..lol
We let them cook and they gave us food poisoning
Cory & Gabe were secretly plotting together the whole time for the #1 pick at the end 🤣🤣
Whattttttttt 😅 lol
@ 😂😂
They thought this was gonna slip my fingers, you knows what’s coming 😈🙏
@@VegetaReaction lmaooo PLEASE SPARE US, PRINCE VEGETA 😩🙏🏾
@@VegetaReaction oh nah, we're finished!
Nah getting rid of Gojo in the first 30 seconds gotta be some typa war crime or something...
Appreciate the love, and yes, that was WILD lol
No
Bro your friends are INSANE. You're the only one who actually knows what reasoning is😭
As soon as I saw Gabe I knew Luffy was cooked 😂
They got two things wrong. 1. Lelouch can't spam his Geass or it will go out of control like when he accidentally controlled his sister. 2. He also can't use Geass on someone more than once. Geass is powerful but it's not as broken as they're making it seem. Lastly, they contradicted themselves because they claim Light is smarter even though he got outsmarted by Near whereas Lelouch actually succeeded in his plan
THANK YOU! I knew I wasn’t trippin 😭
@@ShonenShowdownI'm sensing some bias here how you going to destroy and eliminate Demon Slayer in jjk in High School of the Gods like that and just going to Hype up Sonic I know how your ass going to do one piece in this damn video you going to glaze the hell out of that
@@ShonenShowdowneliminate saitama where you going to eliminate saitama for one punch man is actually pretty good you tripping you wildin out
@@ShonenShowdownyou and Corey guy be crazy as hell how you going to remove rimaru from from Reincarnation of slime like that
@@ShonenShowdownyou remove JoJo wow that's crazy and you never even watch the anime of Jojo's Bizarre
Taking out Eren, Lelouch, Askeladd, Luffy, Gon and Simon while Dio was still remaining is insane 💀
10:45 Lelouch pre-recorded himself and predicted answers to a conversation he never had, let's be guided...
3 times
He did that
1st one was with kallen in the shower
2nd one was with MAO on a big screen
And third one was with his own brother
Not to mention the point of the geas power is not how powerfull it is
But how you use it
Lelouch uses his smarts in order to use the power more efeciently
He even erased his memory against mao and then put it together that he did that based on susaku's convo
@joshbrosh6626 light is nowhere near this calculated!!
@@joelidehen3671 corect
Which is why when i hear people that hes "smarter" then lelouch i laugh at them
Sure light is smart but he aint smarter then a guy who thinks 5 to 10 steps ahead of his oponents
Yes lelouch has lost on some ocasions but thats becouse of variables like apearing of his siblings mid batle or just suzaku fing with his plans with a new model of his knightmare
Hell tricking a giy that can read your mind on a huge distance from one side of the city to the other
2 times in a row is in itself something that requires a lot of IQ
@joshbrosh6626 suzakuuuuu, he pissed me off throughout that whole show!
@@joelidehen3671 suzaku was the oposite of lelouch
He was so naive but thank god he saw that he couldnt do it fron within the system
The only thing i can understand suzaku actions for is euphemia
The other actions were purely of guilt becouse he killed his own father but he took the worst path trying to do what lelouch didnt agree on since lelouch was originally part of that system and knows it cant be dismentled from inside when the top people are all Dic k s
These two acting like the Geass takes away from Lelouches intelligence. Lelouche was going against people that had a better understand of the power system and could even just ignore it in some cases and still came out on top. Light was 100% anonymous and no one had any fucking idea how his powers worked at all and he was picked out in a country of millions fast as fuck, and figured out something completely supernatrual outside of the realm of human possibility because he's a chucklenut
Geass for sure is broken, but that's not all Lelouch uses to accomplish his goals. While Light is fighting L's small team, a team which he has intel on since he is literally in the team, he wins against L. But as soon as light goes against Near and his team which is quite irrevelant to be fair, Near defeats Light. While Light is fighting incredibly small police forces trying to catch him, Lelouch is fighting against an EMPIRE that controls 2/3 of the world. That empire has OP mechs, nuclear weapons, and their leader Charles even has a geass himself. While Lelouch has to win a whole war with only the help of some rebels, Light only has to outsmart one person with high IQ, and just do lots of convincing against somebody that knows nothing about his powers. Convincing people to join your side and make them fight in a war with a big minority requires way more wits than doing some convincing to a few people that you're not a supervillain. Light gets caught because of his dumb mistakes. He gets outsmarted in the end, Lelouch doesnt.
They clearly don't know how the Geass exactly works, JUSTICE FOR LELOUCH!
Bruh I never seen Light Yagami play chess!! Lol naw they are acting like Lelouch didn't do half the things in Code Geass without the Geass. He literally had pre-recorded whole conversations for people 😂. Had people talking to themselves while he was on the battlefield 😂😂
IM SAYING 💯💯💯
He'd be good
most of his feats are with geass and some are just an ass pull there is no way he calculated some bs and deactivated a bomb with his mech in like 0.01 sec
@actiongames9613 just like there's no way Light would of been able to pull off that whole "I'll give the Deathnote away and watch it come back to me just in time to kill the previous owner-3 month- scheme
L is smarter than both of them so it dosnt matter.
Rob using Mihawk to defend Luffy against Gabes take is wild
😭😭😭
Lelouch in the same week or day already knew the limitation of the Geass and had fight people who had mind reading powers and many more Lelouch had to fight empire with giant robots which his mind control can’t get
I crashed out with you when he did Luffy like that💀💀
The recency bias is HEAVY… Frieren over Eren, Thorfinn and Askeladd is slow asl 💀
Askelad from villain to broken hero transformation top 3 best written evolution ever. Perfectly written character
Thorfinn not even on the board my man
That reminds of the Gigguk character contest, in which Frieren beat Holo. That was recency bias at its worst.
@@jordanl5436 the fact Frieren even made it over him is insane bias
@@SupremeKi not really it kinda looks random Sasuke wasn't on the list or characters like ken and Johan seems randomized
Excited to watch this.
I better hear no "Goku has no character development" you OGDB skippers.
Light never manipulated Misa, she started out already wanting to do whatever he asked of her and also even outside of intellect feats (which Lelouch is still better on sheerly by actually winning at the end) he has much more depth and dimensions than Light
The problem is that they were arguing about who was more intelligent when the question who is the best character. And Light is better no question. Way more nuanced and his descent into evil and madness was done way better than Lelouch's whole character.
@nikolakrstic8079 literally the opposite considering Light was already screwed in the head and evil laughing by episode 1 but ok
Also how is "I'm a god because I have good grades" more nuanced than someone who is both the leader of the rebels, the loving brother and the new evil emperor all at the same time in a way that somehow made sense?
@@alondvorkin2762 there was still steps he took to go that far. At the start he wouldn't do to his father what he did in the end. At the start of season 2 he was ready to kill his sister too etc How absolute power consumed him absolutlly was done perfect. Meanwhile whole season 2 in Code Geass was a mess. Lelouch is a great character don't get me wrong but I think he suffers from how the show itself was to chaotic going back and forth from school teen schenanigans to military takeover. Etc just the whole 2nd season was a mess ans I would need to write an essay to explain it all. I'm obviosly not gonna do that
@@nikolakrstic8079 Did we watched the same show my guy?
Taking out gojo and sonic before tanjiro or deku 💀
Gojo is the most one note character ever he has zero personality he’s literally just the strong guy
@@yaJA._. nah, but you do you
@@jason_Ft gege agrees with me but you do you 😂😂
@yaJA._. not the argument I'd use for your case💀 "the author, who's extremely biased against gojo and hates him, agrees with me." You're not saying or explaining much, lol
@@jason_Ft that wasn’t my main argument just a add on to it, it’s funny that the mf who created him also thinks he’s lame and has zero personality 😭
Cory and Gabe felt like they were eliminating based on their personal opinions. Gabe was rage baiting as always and Cory just missed the mark completely (how does the same person get rid of ed, gon and eren, some of shounen's best written MCs😭). Rob was initially the only one judging objectively until the crash out (though Gabe seemed to be eliminating people that rob seemed to like)
to be fair its not like we were ranking them in any order we just was removing as we went, I personally don't think any of those 3 are number one and that was the spot that mattered the most
@TheRealCrocYT I'm not really sure about that, because they kept saying that certain shows are shows meant to be in the final stages of the video implying that order did matter. Not to mention that "process of elimination" usually has to do with removal in ascending order of quality. But I do get what you mean, the same character would have won anyway, however it's interesting to realize that with different characters in the final stages vegeta could possibly have been eliminated.
Now we need one of these for main villains
Have them crash out on characters like Doflamingo, Madara, Frieza and many more
Yep there's so many goats like aizen, mereum, sensui, shishio, obito, yhwach, pain, kaidou, etc
bro what are these takes
i said this as a joke but mid way through the video and these takes funny asl
Light being smarter than Lelouch is crazy work man said one character based on similar earth Lelouch is fighting a successful British empire and its military might
27:10 I'll give you a line Gabe. (Your going to be alright, You just stumbled over a stone in the road, it means nothing, Your goal lies far beyond this doesn't it. I'm sure you'll overcome this, you'll walk again soon!)
Guts literally quoted an entire sentence to Griffith when he left the band of the hawk, Of course Guts be spitting what you mean here ua-cam.com/video/-4PcHYCgXtc/v-deo.html
True, he also said there's no paradise for you to escape to.
what he said at the campfire of dreams to (idk the quote off the top of my head) and why do I always notice these things when they're gone about the band of the hawk
Goku having no layers is CRAZY work
Dragonball Super effect 😅
Knew bro had 0 credibility when he said that about jjk
19:17 I disagree. There's many moments from season 1-3 that Eren was great. Eren vs Annie, him using the founding titan powers for a little bit, him trusting levi in the forest, Eren and Armin vs colossal titan
Eren doesn’t even know why he’s doing at the end of the story”why did yo do it” “idk j wanted to be free”
@@Vaultdwellerchris And that's a better written moment than any moment from every single character here except for Lelouch's Zero Requiem.
@@osmorca618 it’s not it makes no sense and provided no explanation.
@@Vaultdwellerchris You have to thoroughly understand Eren's character in order to understand this scene, which is difficult because he's one of the most complex characters ever created. Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it's bad lol.
@ that’s a coo out cuz there’s a lot about wrens character. I read the manga weekly . I understand a lot of his character but there’s a time in the manga/anime where his character goes left
yankees hat was cooking
Taking out Luffy that early is diabolical 😂😂 he wasn’t gonna win cuz Gabe was there but still.
The moment lelouch left I knew that this video was a lost cause
Why tf was ash on there so long 🙏😭
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If we going off iconic alone Ash and Goku would be the last 2 easy. But development wise he should of been the first to go 😂
@fishnutz5196 yeah, im guessing its development wise cause it says best anime character not most iconic
If we talking anime as a whole yeah ash may be bad but it shows both ash and pikachu so imma guess it’s with the two of them and they do have a lot of character development especially in x y z and aún and moon and you can’t forget about movies but they aren’t the best picks
5:10 get a load of this guy 😂
I know right?! 😭😭 again thank you 🙏🏾
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@9:30 So... Lelouche's Geass can only be used on a person once. Which means there would be a lot of planning revolving around what single command to give a person. It's not just free mind control. Not saying he is or isn't smarter than Light, just clarifying
As much I love vegeta he not better than guts because guts is not main character who want to be a hero he uses his rage, resentment, and despair as weapon to protect him and the people he cares.
He does what any people do when someone bites you bites back and other notes for the people who saying “ uhh well every people he meets ends up dying 🤓.” The reason is that he doesn’t care about them but because he started to care too much.
The only reason he look aggressive and just doesn’t care about life because is to hide his wounded heart. As for an example when he fought Slug Baron after the fight was over Baron’s daughter swears vengeance upon guts. All he can do is smile because he knows that she have a reason to live, but deep down he can’t stop breaking down because he legitimately feels sad for what she had to endure, at what he did to her father which caused her to hate him.
Guts is simply too humane in an inhumane, unreasonable and cruel world and that only the beginning story of berserk.
Also my favorite quote from guts is “He died doing what he wanted, no matter what right? I bet he was happy.”
That's entirely subjective. YOU can think he's better. You can't tell someone else he isn't.
I rock with Vegeta but THE BEST? And better written than guts? Guts is the GOAT and his development is one of the best in the fiction that I’ve seen. I lowkey feel like he was gettin slandered cus Guts is more than just some line he says, dialogue extends beyond something you can just quote for some cool bars. But for one line by him my favorite dialogue from him was in the bonfire of dreams when he’s explaining how everyone’s got large goals, hopes, and dreams and each light represents that but guts says “my flame ain’t here”.
Both great characters tho
Not the loro glazer
This was a 2v1 the entire time 😂😂
Fire concept 🔥
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Dogshit opinions 😊
Ngl one piece is in my top 3 but I don’t think Gabe’s choice to get rid of Luffy is that bad
Ultimately it was the same case for Gojo as they weren't gonna win anyway. My problem is that it's just to be a hater.
as soon as he got rid of gintoki, I would've done the same 100% 💀💀
@@bigfoot4392 I agree, he's not as well written as Ichigo or Naruto.
@@SpaceTriangles67 yeah man I agree
That will be forever ongoing discussion hahaha. I like the character writing for all those main characters, among those three i actually favor Ichigo from character perspective and i say that as a one piece fan. But to rip Luffy off that early was a crime 😅 Naruto was a counter crime lol and sorry the DB characters are way less layered than any of those but i guess everyone has their taste
@4:16 I already knew what was going to happen and all I can say is that I have never disagreed with a choice so hard in my life. Gintoki is not only the best mc, but just character in fiction. I look in the mirror and he is the man I want to be/see in the mirror. Real ones know the true beauty of gintoki
IM SAYINNN HE SHOULDVE BEEN UP THERE TILL THE END!!! these people don't know him frfr.. got me so pissed off 😒
Saying Mob is deku and Boji combined is only possible if you haven't watched the show lol
They need to go read berserk again this is crazy
Never let them cook again.
00:23 yah this guy is the fandom's next target after Gege he gon get that Gojo treatment from fans
The Simone disrespect is crazy lol
Vegeta as the best written characters is hilarious, maybe top 50 is an argument but even that is a stretch
Best written over the greatest manga of all times mc guts ?
That's the real crime here.
I disagree with you dude.....he Maybe not be best written but he's iconic plus has one of the best character development
Oh nah Lelouch is better character than Light. But smartness Lelouch has university level intelligence like Light. His monologue damn near perfect compare to Light. Light death was terrible and Lelouch’s death have meaning to change the world and save people he knows of suffering. I think Light didn’t really have good ending like Eren. It’s just Light was cocky and arrogant brat compared to lovable Lelouch. Eren’s trash lets better real. Vegeta over Goku is trash. Goku has more popularity in my opinion throughout series.
just like I said under another comment I have to say it here too.. The problem is that they were arguing about who was more intelligent when the question who is the best character. And Light is better no question. Way more nuanced and his descent into evil and madness was done way better than Lelouch's whole character.
Idk man the stuff lelouch pulls off troughout the show
Especially the 3 prerecorded convos seem like hes above university level of smarts
Dont forget he uses his geass with his smarts
@@nikolakrstic8079 The thing is Light character died after L’s death for me. He became less calculating and didn’t use deathnote more as much Lelouch easily the goat as character. He influenced so many people compare to Light. Sure he manipulated people like Lelouch, but the planning and intelligence is more towards Lelouch for me. Lelouch evilness suck compared to Light.
I think it's funny talking about Vegeta blowing up the planet and trying to sell it as a wrong thing to do but Goku got zeno to make a tournament for each universe where losing one gets wiped out and why because he thinks it would be a fun idea
Yo! Light above of LeLouche is crazy. My dude schemed way more elaborate plans then Yagami
Aye Rob we need an update on your favorite anime endings and openings that’s one of my favorite videos of yours
My 2 favorite anime characters got out early😭😭(jin woo and luffy)
Gabe is wilding
Lmao, man, I swear I almost clicked off this video when they were talking about removing Gintoki (not Gintama)! That just goes to show that they’ve never even watched or paid attention to it. Gintama is one of the greatest Shonen anime off all time!
When I first started watching Gintama I was just like “Man, this show is so damn boring”. But once I actually got down to where the show picks up man. It is one of the greatest anime of all time! I swear that Gintama is literally the only anime that has made me laugh, get mad, hype, depressed, and almost cry. Legitimately the only people who talk down on Gintama I can guarantee you with all the money that I have just in my pocket which is about ($500) than Gintama is better than about 90% of Shonen anime. And I swear on my life I will die on that hill! Ask anyone who’s actually watched Gintama(all the way through) and I can guarantee you that they will say the samething!
The problem with most people is they either only watched Gintama from UA-cam shorts, top 10 videos, or have only watched the first few episodes! Because I swear to you that anyone and I mean “ANYONE” that has actually watched it all the way through will say it’s one of the greatest Shonen anime of all time! It’s only the ones who’ve watched Naruto, DBZ, and One Piece only that will talk bad about Gintama. It’s sad, smh. But it goes to show the bias that people have.
Since Guts made it to the top I’ll say y’all kinda redeemed yourselves lol. In my personal opinion, Guts is the most well written manga character ever period! And y’all say he killed a kid(who I’m assuming y’all are talking about is Rosine). But y’all also didn’t bring up the fact that one, she literally has killed 100s of people! And in those hundreds of people she killed like 80-90% of those were children. And that’s just actually killed or had killed. That’s not even mentioning all of the homes and food that her so called “Fairies” destroyed. And then not to mention she was also one of the Apostles who helped killed the Hawks members during the Eclipse.
But then again, Rosine is just a child! A poor child who was abused her whole life and didn’t know anything other than abuse, and anger. And she just wanted a place away from adults, abuse(mentally, physically, and sect-ually) and the things that they do. She just wanted to live away from all of the drama, pain, and suffering. And I can’t blame her at all.
Rosine was just a kid who wanted to live her life as that. But wasn’t able to. She was mentally, emotionally, and physically just all around broken which makes her situation that much more saddening. Especially me being the father of a daughter around her age I can’t help but hurt for her and her situation. But that is just one of the many MANY reasons as to why I love Berserk so so much!
Berserk is by far and away my favorite manga of all time! R.I.P. Kentaro Muira. You are an amazing writer and one of the only few people who are able convey such a profound, heartfelt, passionate, inspiring, depressing with sprinkles of happiness and joy message within your writings and stories. And without a doubt one of the greatest artists of not only this generation but of all time! You didn’t have to go that hard with Berserk! Lol.
I’m sorry, I turned this into a dang manga/anime review or something 🤦🏾♂️ lol. But I still feel the way I feel anyway!!! Lol
Nah can't use the guts quote 23:24 like that 😂😂😂
I didnt warch all of code geass but from what i remember lelouch cannot spam his ability, also i like how they were talking about the smarts and went straight to the abilities💀
Ngl though that be me sometimes in Rob's position.
naruto is a grown ass man
also naruto: spams se*y justu in the middle of fight that has stakes of world
i believe character like luffy and lelouch does not need development because their character are appealing from the beginning
22:32 they not real they can’t put vegeta over guts
Rob was mad as hell 23:14. I feel em tho there could of kids in the crowd
Not to mention Vegeta has blown up Planets before he got developed. He killed nappa and almost killed Gohan back on namek 😪
@@alexmagraph9295bring them back with the dragon balls!
Saying Vegeta is better than goku is criminal.
Character wise
@royalfun1031 stop the cap
@royalfun1031 Most people that say that haven't watched OGDB. I don't know about you but those 3 I know for sure they haven't.
One Piece fans crashing out whenever someone doesn't glaze luffy to the bone will never not be funny.
Op fans 🤝 db fans in glazing their mc
@@njoguszn 👊
@@njogusznone piece fans:”we have the best character!”
Db fans:”but can he beat goku?”
Vegeta is fodder
Still better than midchigo
Bruh it’s guts. Man birthed to a corpse. Got Donavaned. Lost his girl in something I’ve never seen any character like vegeta has ever went through. The eclipse. And everything in the manga? Na it’s guts.
How the hell did Ash last as long as he did
No idea.
Better question, why wasn't frieren eliminated first
Simon destroys Kamina. As much as Kamina is an amazing and lovable character, he just doesn’t have anywhere near the amount of depth, development, themes or conclusion to be above Simon imo.
Is it a zoro situation
How can you choose Vegeta over any of them? He is Not Even the best in his own Show. Taking down should be a Crime. Shonen Showdown you are the only real one here
He is
Picking vegeta over guts is some crazy work
Vegeta getting a pity win is so fitting
Erin is such a slept on character. That man is really the goat one of the best friend characters in all of anime. i’m stamping that.
Lelouch accidentaly forced his childhood friend/sibling/idk into wanting to commit genocide, absolute dumbass. (he cant spam the eye though, really needed to clarify that)
Yeah rob and Corey were bugging luffy would be hella annoying in real life the way he acts he’s too dumb he would honestly piss everyone off if you can’t see that your bias and it’s showing
Light vs Lelouch (smarts) is crazy acting like Lelouch wouldn’t come out alive 1v1 with no powers
If any DB character was ever going to get close to winning a contest like this it would be Piccolo.
Saying Luffy is the same character from the beginning of the story up until now is egregiously false
I’d say from war arc till now he’s been the same he doesn’t really grow. He’s a good character but he doesn’t have a character arc the same way Robin did or sanji did in wholecake
Great video ❤👍🏼, you should do a villain version like this one
I like vegeta but this is insane glazing 😭
Ngl, this is my 3rd video watching of this guy and imo his videos are of high quality
At the beginning of the show lelouch toald cc that he was about to deal with britania anyways and that the geass is just a ability to achieve his goal faster
The Guts disrespect by even mentioning Vegeta in the same sentence is insane
First lol BTW nice video im big fan
02:10 - OK! THAT'S JUST CRAAAAAAAAAZY
If your top 10 from here doesn't include Luffy, Frieren, Guts, Eren, Lelouch and maybe Light then I can't take you seriously
If my opinion can't be taken in top 10, then i cant take you seriosuly is funny lol
Luffy ain't even top 20 in writing. Most glazed character on the table.
@@user-pr1jc7tp1e Fitting profile pic considering this is an L take
Luffy definitely isn't in it but the others are.
Luffy doesn’t belong on there and Eren is debatable
The fact that he said Luffy is ride or die in comparison to Naruto is funny as hell. So you just forget the lengths this man went through to get Sasuke back. Idgaf what anyone talking about, that right there is the definition of ride or die. He literally said you're coming with me or we're both going to die. And he definitely was down to throw hands with everyone what the f*** are yall on? LOL just cause he could talk a few people down doesn't mean he didn't pull up with all the smoke. I mean for the Pain fight he literally popped up in a puff of all the smoke and took 2 out. Fully whooped nagato BEFORE talking to him. It's not just talk. It's beat your ass and then tell you what you're doing wrong and giving you a chance to change or get your ass beat some more. He is not a hostage negotiator, he is your daddy giving you a talk after he whoops your ass.
YOU BASTARDSSSS!!!!💀💀💀💀💀💀
Taking out Sonic after Gojo left the tier list is purely diabolical.😨😨😨
Like I get the expression "Gotta Go Fast" but this is taking it too literally. LIKE BRUH WTF!!!😤😠
Every time man. The One Piece hatred is just too much. No justification. 😭
But low-key chillin with Naruto would be better then Luffy
Faxx bro Luffy is mad annoying@@Heavenlyscenario50
@@Heavenlyscenario50 I respectfully disagree
@@SpaceTriangles67I would punch both luffy and naruto in the face if i could
Sometimes OP be getting glazed so hard, the hate kinda evens it out lol
the way gabe took out mob with no hesitation was disrespectful
awwwwe snap new style video!!!
Honestly I’m a huge luffy fan but bro is kind of right about who I’d rather spend my time with 😂 really got me thinking lol but luffy loyalty and leadership is unmatched fs
Nope nope nope, the way i wanted to jump into the screen so many times 😂
Vegeta winning is crazy.
2:00 Bro what do you mean?
Gojo, Saitama are both FAR more popular and recognizable than Simon
And even those two get overshadowed by Goku and Luffy
I'm not saying they're objectively better, 'cause they're not, it's subjective... But you can't deny their popularity, etc.
Don't let this guys cook they don't know what they are doing
The fact that Luffy made it that far is insane. I'm not mad with Vegeta winning, there are some characters that went out early because ya'll were fooling around a bit, but all in all not bad.
CORY!!! Bruh seriously?!! People love Ed.
People love Ed but cmon we all know we love Al more !
Light has like a Batman level of prep in thought to not get caught because he can’t afford it lelouch will always have a chip on his shoulder since he can control people without having to write something down regardless of lights eye. So light is kind of smarter since he has to think deeper.
Light had to bust out the Rem cheat code to get rid of L as a last ditch effort whereas Lelouch played Schneizel and excecuted his plan perfectly. That should be enough to settle who is smarter between the two.
Also Lelouch would never lose to Near of all people lmao
Luffy is fucking goated 🐐
15:36 bro I can’t believe this… Ichigo is literally a Walmart Yusuke and he’s on the board longer 😭
The reasoning for taking down Goku just goes to show they don’t watch Dragon Ball lol
Yeah they only watched Z.
So many skipped the original series nowadays. 😔😔