Wazer waterjet review
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- Опубліковано 12 січ 2019
- The Wazer desktop waterjet cutter FINALLY arrived a few weeks ago, and we've started testing. You'll find the first review at www.morganica.com/wazer-review.... This video shows the first two cuts (aluminum and glass) we tried.
Note: Edited for length so it doesn't get too tedious. - Наука та технологія
Thanks for posting a video that doesn't seem like a paid ad like the others out there. I think you're spot on that the machine brings something new to the market that wasn't there before, but it definitely has its limitations. You will learn how to manage those as you get experience with it though. I think how fast the machine can process metal is easy to miss in all the PR videos that one normally runs into. I'm not sure it's the resolution that determines it, more so the pressure the pump can generate. The quality of the nozzle likely plays a role too.
Thanks again for posting an honest and to the point video!
Hey Neighbor! Thanks for the video... I took delivery of my Wazer about 3 months ago but, I was out of town so, I am setting everything up now (which is a job). I also have a Torchmate CNC plasma and I decided to purchase the Wazer for copper and plastics while hoping it can do fiberglass and 1/8" teflon. After looking at this video, I think keeping realistic expectations is the key.
im getting one, this would be perfect
I thought I might add my 2 cents about the glass. Was the glass you used tempered glass or standard glass? If it is tempered then that might have been the issue with the cracks and the wandering. I used to run a glass engraving/etching business. When you work with tempered glass it is a gamble. The way tempered glass is made is by putting several layers together that are "stretched" in different directions before they are fused together. This creates internal stresses going in different directions which is what gives tempered glass its strength. But it is also a weakness if you are trying to cut into it, because if you cut through one stress and not all of them at the same time it can just spider out on you. I tried to only work on plate glass and never tempered because it was very disheartening to have 30-40 hours into a project and then have it shatter because you went a little too deep. Just a thought.
A WJ would never cut tempered glass as it would shatter instantly. Issue is this machine is So very underpowered its basically chipping its way through. You need at least 25kpsi to be productive.
As mentioned, it is untempered Bullseye fusing glass, which is standard soda-lime. The kerf on the Wazer is relatively wide and I suspect the lowish PSI is creating a less forceful, focused cutting action. But that is just my speculation.
Glad you got your Wazer and it’s running well. I’m still waiting for mine. Wondering if you can tell me what your order number was so I can better guess how far away my shipment is? My order number is 1128. Last time I contacted them I was told mine is expected to ship in February. As you know, they move those dates out frequently. All the best, Scott
Cynthia, now that you've had your Wazer for a bit, what are your thoughts on it?
Well, I haven't, actually. A few months after this review I sold it. I was more interested in steel cutting than glass, and it just wasn't practical for the volume I wanted. I link to my written review on the blog that explains more about that.
How does the protomax (12x12, $23k) compare to the wazer (12x18, $8k)?
We currently operate a 50000 psi maxiem 2030 and i can extrapolate that the protomax would eat this thing alive, by comparison cutting a 1250x850 mm part with 9mm 12 holes from aluminum sheet of 2mm take 2minutes on a 50000 psi pump, the protomax is 30000, so slower but this takes 15 minutes(also the specs for the pump and its powere are not available anywhere for the wazer so we have to assume its small) to cut a hole and some text of a couple of mm frame, also the wazer eats 25% more garnet per minute than the protomax and garnet is quite expensive, just by some basic math the protomax would save you around 2.2kgs garnet per hour this comes out to a lot if using the machine an average of 4 hrs per day 300 days per year, at an average garnet price of 0.5$ per kg it adds up to at least 1200usd per year. And since garnet is more than 50% of the cost of a water-jet process this is quite an important thing to factor in if you are a business.
Likely? (because I haven't used a Protomax) The Wazer would be both slower and more limited in depth of cut.
$9,000 ?!? WTF happened to the original $1,200 price! I helped fund this on kickstarter, now I have to pay nearly 10x the price all of a sudden. BAD MOVE. No longer worth it. It was marketed as an AFFORDABLE HOME DIY-ER PRODUCT. Now all of a sudden it's an over-priced commercial product. - - - - - - - - - EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTING - - - - - - - - -
StraitD2 my concerns too and extremely slow. 16 minutes for a keychain is a bit crazy.
Ha, ha, ha! That's like 90% of all Kickstarter projects. The product will not ship, or will be really, really late, will not live up to the original hype and it will be way more expensive than promised.
Its 10,000 now
wonder how it is with titanium
So now that you own one would you recommend someone buy one, , more importantly, would you buy one yourself!
Good question. I haven't spent as much time with the Wazer as I'd like--since this test I've only really cut "serious" stuff once. I've been surprised by the amount of abrasive required for even small pieces (such as a 5-inch knife blank in 1/8th inch steel), and the time it takes (about 70 minutes to cut three blanks with interleaving edges). The first isn't that much different from the commercial waterjets I've used (I think; since they're not my machines I'm going by what the operator told me), but I was used to much faster cuts with the commercial machines.
So...bottom line, I think this is a great machine for personal or small-quantity cutting. Someone expecting to use this to sell cutting services will need to figure in time and overhead, and quite likely will need to charge more than the commercial shops to make a profit. In a small town where you're the only waterjet, you might be able to charge enough to make a profit, but in a larger area with multiple commercial waterjets, you'll likely price yourself out of the market.
wow glad I didn’t waste my money on one, , i'll wait for version 2 or a Chinese copy tooooo sloooow
waterjet is not fast without alot more power..
Terrible investment. The times and media usage are extremely exaggerated. Tried to return for a partial reimbursement but was told to put it on ebay.
I'm glad I saw this video before buying one. The pump isn't powerful enough and the jet is wandering hence the bad cuts through glass.
what price!! $9000 usd for that toy?? we buy a Flow flying bridge, broken from a stone company, I have to change the CNC part and I only paid $5,000 usd downpayment and $15,000 in 15 month, it is a real waterjet of 60,000 psi, why somebody pay $9,000 for a toy? I guess that chinese toy only produce 3000 psi max. the speed is too slow. Don't buy garbage, try to find a used waterjet it is better.
Hola Rodrigo, estoy en Guadalajara buscando uno waterjet usado a buen precio, sabes de algún lugar que venda ?
Scott, I'm backer #247.
Far too noisy to hear your dialogue. No reason to make us listen to the sound except as a dampke of what it sounds like. Still, I thank you for tbe review.
Slowwwwwwww