483HP & 420lbfts with APR Stage 2 ECU, TCU, Pulley, Eventuri & Milltek Exhaust on an Audi B8.5 S5
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Do you want to know what difference there is between a stock S5, Stage 1, Stage 1 with TCU, Stage 2 with Pulley, intake and exhaust?
This S5 arrived with us with a REVO Stage 1 ECU upgrade and otherwise stock. This customer opted for an upgrade package consisting of APR Stage 2 ECU software, APR TCU Software, APR Supercharger Pulley, Eventuri Carbon Fibre Intake & Milltek Non-Resonated Exhaust with Chrome Tips.
The APR Stage 2 ECU Software optimises the ECU fuelling, ignition and many other maps inside the ECU for use with the APR Supercharger Pulley. The APR Supercharger Pulley has a smaller diameter, allowing the supercharger to complete more revolutions for any given RPM, increasing the boost. The APR TCU software optimises the S-Tronic transmission for faster, smoother shifting and an extended rev range to create a significant increase in peak power.
The Eventuri Carbon Fibre Intake replaces the factory intake and improves air intake flow into the engine and rejects more heat than the factory plastic item. Improving flow through the air intake and keeping the intake air cooler helps to improve power, torque and response as well as improving the engine road massively and allowing you to really hear the supercharger whine.
The Milltek Non-Res exhaust system releases the incredible V6 exhaust note, improving tone and volume significantly whilst the Chrome Silver tips improve the rear-end aesthetic.
🔴 Output Measured = 396HP & 376lbfts
🔵 Max Gains = +91HP & 78lbfts
🔵 Peak Gains = + 87HP & 44lbfts
🔵 Max Output = +483HP & 420lbfts
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I love your video. I love how informative it is
Thank you Sir!
be nice to see some 0 to 60 launches. being supercharged the launch must be quick. 👍
It will be SO fast
@@RegalAutosport you gonna do some launches? stock vs tuned would be nice. thinking of a s3/s4 when I replace mine. 👍
These are good gains, even more so with just a supercharger pulley upgrade. I saw you had replied in the comments about APR advising not to dual pulley on the latest gen CREC engine as the SC has a magneto clutch (identified by the bolted pulley rather than pressed on conical shaft type earlier engine). But a crank pulley swap will take the pulley ratio higher than the SC pulley ratio, plus the standard crank pulleys are known to fail on the rubber so a bit of preventative measures fitting a solid billet crank pulley too. You may get a bit more power with a crank pulley (plenty of sizes to choose from) and avoid the std crank failure.
We haven't experimented with that and it's not something we'd like to experiment with on a customers car, we're happy to provide a true bolt-on hardware and software upgrade for a no-hassle upgrade.
Maybe sometime in the future we may have the opportunity to but for now, our advice to customers would remain what APR have provided.
Nice work guys, great video. Splashing the cash on the Eventuri, beautiful piece of kit. Shame the car is a bolt on pulley, quite a restriction there. Imo it needs the Audi logo on the front grille and obviously the rear valance needs fitting.
Thanks! Yes if it had the push on then we could have done the crank pulley too for even higher gains. The rear valance the customer removed to be refinished but didn’t arrive in time for the exhaust install.
@@RegalAutosport @SolitarySemp This version of the S5 has the Gen 2 3.0T engine, code CREC, which changed the attachement style of the SC pulley amongst other revisions. Why are you not able to run the crank pulley as in combination bolt on style pulley? APR offers a stage 2 dual pulley ECU tune for the CREC engine - been running it on my A6 for almost a year now.
Great video! I have a 09 B8 S5 and I'm looking to do some work to it, this video certainly helps! Want to get better performance and sound, so continually looking for best route.
Thank you Jay 🙌 glad to have helped. We’ve also done another recently with the Ultra Charger (throttle body upgrade)
09 is a v8?
@@ilikefishing7858 yes
@@RegalAutosport this is measured at the crank not WHP correct?
Hi Regal, great video. Just a quick question: Do you allow customers to provide their own oil for a service? My service is due soon and I'd love to take the trip down to you guys.
Thanks for the comment. We do, although it's completely your responsibility to ensure you are providing the correct oil for the service.
Do you have a video on the general ownership of owning an S5? Looking from '09-'14 with either 4.2 or 3.0T engine, I more concerned about reliability and the such. Any help or sources would be amazing! Great video, subscribed 👍
Thank you for watching and the sub! We don't have any videos lie this unfortunately
The 4.2 semi-common issue is carbon buildup
The 3.0 early models (B8) have potential thermostat failure and the oldee generation dsg gearbox have been known to have mechatronic issues.
The B8.5 is the most reliable of this platform as some common weak points have been fixed.
Every model of audi s5 is just as reliable as most other cars. Just has a few common failures at higher mileage
Is the exhaust and intake more for aesthetics and sound or are there any power gains from these mods? I've seen b8 s4's running more power without exhaust and intake mods but just a stage two pulley tune
It's important to keep in mind that dyno graphs are only a snapshot of a vehicle performance in specific conditions, at a specific health and at a specific point in time. Different dynos, vehicle health, operating conditions etc can impact on the results recorded.
A good quality intake and exhaust always make good power on these cars!
Thanks for the video. Will that intake fit an A6 C6 3.0T?
Not sure
Do you guys buy in all the gear to do the job? I've got a B8.5 s4 I'd like to take to stage 2, I'd like that and rs style grill fitting all at once at the same place.
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Hi regal Motorsport,
Does the OEM detuned version (200kw) B8.5 A5 and A4 with the 3.0T supercharger TFSI have the same tune/upgrades as the S4 and S5 and end hp with the same power?
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Hey mate, did you ever find out
Has there been any engine reliability problems after the work. I had a stage 2 upgrade on my b8.5 postponed as the garage had experienced 2 car engine failures back to back after APR stage 2 upgrades
Not with our customers, sounds very odd! Perhaps some underlying health issues that went unnoticed which then lead to failures/other problems after the output was increased.
We’ve been tuning these cars since they were released and have had 0 issues
I'd be more worried about the s tronic gearbox.
How much is it to jump straight to stage 2 with the crank and supercharger pully the tune and the upgraded intercooler? I live in canada
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Would you know what kind of rims they are (and size)?
Sorry, we do not have this info.
which intake is better the eventuri or the APR ultracharger system? im looking to have very similar work done, however i cannot choose between the eventuri which looks amazing or the APR ultracharger which sounds like it improves the performance more?
Ultracharger allows you to run a larger throttle body, which is the big performance differentiator. I believe can run both the APR intake and the Eventuri with the Ultracharger system
@@RegalAutosport oh that is very interesting
Hey, great mods! Can you please tell me what body kit of front bumper it has?
Thanks for the comment and good vibes! I am sorry to say we do not know what front bumper he has.
@@RegalAutosport No worries, thanks for the answer anyway :)
How come you can feel a big difference between stage 1 ECU and stage 2 single pulley? Stage 1 doesn’t feel like 100hp.. while stage 2 really does lol or is it just me
Thanks for the comment, not really sure what your question is though?
Hi I have Audi A3 8P Quattro black edition 2010 S-tronic with stage 1 map and gear box map from Avon tuning, it’s running 251bhp ( before revo stage 2 induction kit and cobra non res exhaust ) I’m thinking of revo’s stage 2 would you recommend revo for the Tsi engines or is there better ones out there?
250HP is about right for the smaller turbo 2.0TFSi. You can install an exhaust and intake for more power, but you’re really limited by the size of the turbo. So gains aren’t massive.
For your car, we’d custom tune it in-house on our dyno with before and after rolling road graphs to show you the difference.
@@RegalAutosport where abouts are you based?
Southampton, you can find all our info in the description 😊
Is the v6 super charged intake the same as the s5 v8 intake that is of the same orientation and not double sided?
Sorry, we do not know for sure.
Do ppl know that the Eventuri cold air intake & ECS cold air intake for the 4.2L V8 RS5 does not produce any extra HP or performance? I think these cold air intakes are more beneficial for V6 supercharged engines, but for the naturally aspirated V8 it's a $2500 aesthetic upgrade only. Every RS5 V8 owner I've talked to said they produced no gains whatsoever, and one owner said maybe 2-3 more HP. Has to do with the poor seal from the filter & the intake dam which would just ingest hot in air into the motor defeating the purpose of "cold air" intake. Plus, both don't have an air box to suck in air. That's why the German engineers designed it that way.
We haven't tested it back to back so can't really comment
Yeah but they do sound cool af
@@mauricioheibel2907 I hear ya brother 👌🏼 Does sound good, just can't justify spending couple thousand on no perf gains & aesthetic upgrade only.
Stephen you post this comment on every video with Eventuri. Don't hate on it cause he can't afford the intake or a tune for your RS5. Michel said the dyno difference is 3hp from the KN drop filters. Who tf cares! It looks and sounds amazing! I have Eventuri, Capristo and jhm tune. That is how you properly do a RS5. Don't hate cause somebody is doing more
@@theeinsuranceguy Aww, poor thing 💩 you triggered? 🤣 I have the tune, K&N, & JHM exhaust so I'm doing it just like y'all so......🤔 I'm not hating, just stating the actual facts that these cold air intakes for this motor do not produce anything except maybe a better growl. $2500 for a sick looking intake but no actual gains..... that's ALL it is. If it produced some actual HP gains, I'd buy it but it doesn't so 🤷🏻♂️ I think the German engineers knew what they were doing intake box-wise. I want to like eventuri & I actually do. They look sick & produce a slightly better growl but $2500 for a strictly aesthetic upgrade is just not worth it. For a show car that sits around? Sure, for that it'd be perfect.
The power figures and torque figures seem low did the s5 have a throttle body upgrade too, im looking at one but i really want to make around 550bhp and roughly the same torque
This car would probably benefit from a carbon clean and better quality fuel
@@RegalAutosport of course yes the car would always be run on v power, so with the throttle body up upgrade all cleaned out and the pulley upgrade and other supporting parts would it make the 550bhp
Is this dual pulley or single pulley?
Thanks for the comment, this is the single pulley. APR advised against doing the dual pulley on a bolted setup due to the supercharging having a clutch, apparently if it’s overdriven too much it can fail. Otherwise, this customer would have upgraded it too.
We do have an S5 booked in soon for a similar setup + crank pulley too. So we’ll make all the comparisons then again 🙏
Do you sell the tips separately? I have a milltek but it has the oval tips and I want to change to the quaddies
We sure can! Contact us using the info in the description
How much do upgrades like this cost? I just recently bought a B8 2015 S5 V6 T Quattro, everything is stock at the moment, do we need a stage 1 before we look at stage 2 or can we go straight for this?
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@@RegalAutosport thank you very much!
No intercooler update?🤔
Thanks for the comment! In the cold climate the stock heat exchanger, or charge cooler water radiator isn't really a bottleneck. In the summer, to maintain the high output the heat exchanger should be fitted though!
The ECU will begin to reduce output as charge temps increase anyway
What kind of wheels are those? The brand and model name. They look good on that.
Sorry, I do not know!
What octane fuel you guys using?
We recommend customers to use Shell V-Power fuel, that's what we usually see the best results on too!
How much is a build like this if I have fully stock Audi a5 b8.5 please? With VAT
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Does Eventuri not make the B8.5 intake anymore?
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2:10 You say that it doesn't interfere with the cats and the emission control system, yet you install catless downpipes? Maybe you meant that it doesn't interfere with the airflow?
The downpipes on this car have silencers, no cats. They do look like cats though, which is often what causes the confusion.
@@RegalAutosport There are no secondary cats or cats in the downpipes. These are just standard straight through silencers for noise reduction. The 3.0 TFSI has 1 cat per bank bolted to the manifold and the down pipes bolt to the cats.
@@davewilliams7565 It sure does! Thank you
How much would the stage 2, pulley, intake and exhaust cost? I have a 2011 S5
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What about the cat deletes that you must do now. What are your plans for that because that's where I'm at now and researching the best options for that since we all know the car will sound terrible after delete
The secondary cats have already been removed, leaving the primary ones in place. For most 3.0TFSi drivers this will be ample power, if you want every last horsepower then you'll have to pay the price of the huge volume and tone change that comes with the primary cat delete.
It's not something we have done or recommend for customers, as it leave the car without any cats. Of course, we can do it providing the customer understands this.
@@RegalAutosport but the problem is the cats will fail and possibly plug up and cause engine damage if left in place at this power/ egt level. That is what I as well as everyone else has been told by our shops and on every forum
Also, in the u.s. anyway, we only have the primary cats, no secondary cats, just resonators
It depends really, other tunes run really aggressive ignition maps which reduce the life of the cats in favour of headline horsepower numbers and flames.
We’ve done tonnes of these upgrades without issue, perhaps it’s the better quality fuel here too.
Single pulley or dual?
Single pulley my good man
These are crank hp numbers not at the wheels right?
We only talk about crank
is this wheel horsepower or crank horsepower?
We only talk about crank numbers
Nothing beats the standard exhaust tips. These things turn the whole back into something vulgar
The heart wants what the heart wants!
I couldn’t agree more with you…
Is that legal in Germany?
No idea, we are in the UK
Anyone know what wheels these are???
Thanks for the comment, I am sorry to say we do not know.
I wanted to know too :(
I think they are 3SDM alloy wheels. Check out their website.
What does all of that cost, installed?
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Really good informative video but you've gotta stop say SO - driving me mad 🤣
Thanks for watching the video and the feedback!
No Downpipe? seems like your choking the shit out of the flow without upgrading the Throttle body and Downpipe... or did I miss that?
The customer didn’t want to install a throttle body, and the Milltek system comes with downpipes.
Hope the clears it up for you ✌️
@@RegalAutosport Yes. sure does, it would not make sense otherwise. Good stuff.
Milltek all the way 💪🏻
Yup!!
Sounds angry
WARP
...or for the same price as an s5+parts+tune, just get an rs5.
Hopefully you're not saying get a B8 RS5
the RS5 is painfully slow in comparison to a modified S5, only difference is the sound. I race my S5 and blow same gen RSs out of the water - plus any upgrade for an RS power wise is so overpriced
@@ekoflame this. BUT if you want the sound and the looks, the RS5 is a great choice!
@@RegalAutosport Completely agree with you there, I wish the sound of the V6 was anywhere close to the V8.
It may be me being stupid but this there are so many contradictions in this video? Says your only installing a catback which doesn't effect emissions but install a decat turbo back. Say it only has two silencers but looks like one? Then say you'll feel the 40bhp difference but the figures below the video show almost 100bhp difference? You also said it started standard but it came in revo stage 1? I don't want to make you guys look incompetent as you're one of the best but it's boggled me 😂
Thanks for the comment
1) this car doesn’t have a turbo. The cats are in the manifolds (not replaced)
2) there is only one silencer, apologies for the confusion!
3) it says at the start it has Revo stage one
4) we provide a comparison for the various different stages we’ve seen come through for 3.0tfsi customers to compare. You can’t technically compare peak/max figure accurately as the car came in with stock TCU software, so the peak RPM is different, and on these cars the extended Rev limit is key.
Hope that clears up your boggled brain
40bhp difference with installed hardware (pulley, intake, exhaust) vs software only (ecu + tcu). Everything is clearly explained. Great video 👌👌
Thanks Danny ❤️
Just to clear this up the non resonated miltek system has one silencer which attatces to the 2 downpipes (2:19) that then goes to the middle silencer (3:28). That then leads to the 2 tailpipes - no backboxes