I've had the Bondi 6 and 7 and for both I had to just widen the toe box a little to not get blisters on my little toes (not the only shoes I've done that with). I use the old trick with inserting a plastic zip-loc bag carefully into the toe, mostly filling it with water, closing it and putting them in the freezer for 48hrs with the heels raised, repeat if necessary. That worked a treat and never had any problems after! Yep I got a good 700km out of each, but after pushed them to over 900km using them on shorter runs and on the treadmill at the gym.
Thanks for the tip, Bondi 7 just ordered size 9 4E x wide hope this give me more room in toe, developing corn between my toe very painful , will try freezer trick, but may need to cut our side of shoe to give my little toe room in 9 D bondi 7 lol
I have the Bondi 7 and the More V3 and the fit on those is very different. The Bondi (in wide) has a bucket seat type feel, which put pressure on the outer metatarsals. The More has a very wide toe box that is great for my semi wide forefoot. Also, the Bondi always felt heavy on foot.
I have the Bondi 7 and the More V3. The Bondi 7 is an awful shoe in every way. The More V3 does a better job as a recovery shoe but I have come to dislike these high foam stack height shoes in general. My next shoe will be the Puma deviate nitro 2.
Mmm, fascinating. I have been wearing Hoka starting off with the Clifton line back in 2018. Then tried the Bondi line which up until last year seemed to be rather comfortable. However, the latest Hoka Bondi 8 version did not leave up to expectations - quite painful at times after long walks. Currently researching NB, I know they have official seal of approvals from podiatrists and they are recommended especially for those with wide feet and plantar fasciitis issues which fits the bill for me, so I might give it a try this time. The only thing that put me off all these years from trying NB is the design and logo, I really do not like them, but maybe I will find something good. Comfort now more important than aesthetics.
I put on the bindi this weekend.. I love my NB 1080 V12 the more V4 it’s amazing for a jogger and the new 1080 V13 it’s comfort.. the NB FFX outclass the Bondi foam. Not a personal vendetta here just sensitive feet average
I had a Bondi 7 and used it for treadmill running. The problem is the back inside of the shoe come apart and expose the plastic behind it. I need to try NB More.
Love the review, I have always wanted to like Hoka and their lineup but even with wide versions they still just aren't wide enough. New Balance wins for me, I have had all versions of the More and have really liked the way it has evolved. Love your videos, keep them coming.
I have the Bondi 8, the New Balance fresh foam more v4, and also the New Balance FuelCell Super Comp Trainer the Bondi 8 dose not last, I walk 10 + miles every day fast as I can (cant run rod and screws in right ankle) and they have the absolute most wear and are the least comfortable. I just got the New Balance FuelCell SCT so I can't say about it but the more v4 is leaps and bounds better than the Hoka at everything comfort, longevity, and breathability. now so far I am loving the new FuelCell SCT its very nice and has bounce after the squish down and I'm liking it so far!!!
I have both these shoes and can't understand why these are in the same category? They are night and day difference with the V4 being very soft cushion while the Bondi is thick but very hard and heave sole.
@@patrickh.7644I have both. The Nimbus is soft and has a springy feel that helps propel you forward if you run. I use them for walking and in that application it is not as pronounced. The More v4 are softer and provide more cushioning. Personally I prefer them. The Nimbus are still very soft but the More v4s are softer. Depending on the color I think the Asics can be a casual shoe without sticking out (design wise) To me the Nimbus are overpriced at retail price level but with a good discount they provide good value.
Good review. Detailed to a fault, which I appreciated. Having run in both shoes I founf the New Balance More v4 to be the plushest and most comfortable shoe i have ever worn. I am an overpronator but don't have that problem with this New Balance. I believe the New Balance is stable because of a coombination of its width and plush cushioning which holds the foot in preventing overpronation. Don't get me wrnong, the Bondi is a great shoe that I continue to wear.
I love the More v3! It has been my go to max cushioned shoe and on my 2nd pair. Can’t wait to get my hands on a pair of the v4’s! The Bondi wide always hurt the outside of my feet and I had to return them after one run. Great shoe just didn’t work for my wide foot.
Thanks for sharing! I think the 4 is a little more exciting than the 3 so looking forward to hearing from you if you remember and can drop me a comment once you tried the 4!
@@kuriosites HOKA wide has the same width of the insole as the normal one. They just add more material to the upper.. Its a trick they do to save money. The only Hoka that is relative wide is the Mach 5.
I am looking for a good everyday, walking/standing all day comfort shoe. Have been torn with the More v4 vs the Clifton 8/Bondi 8, and Saucony Tempus. I have wider feet and wouldn’t mind some stability. Which one would provide the best value in regards to stability and comfort for just being on my feet all day. Thank you!
Are this Bondi wider on the toe box?, the last bondi I tried, had to switch to Clifton (great shoe), and I tried the wide on both. Hope this bondi is wider.
Hello, good afternoon. Forgive me if I ask you a question. I have the foot exactly 27,5 cm long, and the foot is normal width, a little thin , that with the asics I go with the 45 European, which is 28,5 cm. I am looking at all the places and each one says something different. With this sneaker the more v4, which number do I have to catch? The 44 which is equivalent to 28 cm, or the 44.5 which is equivalent to 28.5 cm to go well? If you can help me I would be very grateful because I’m eating my head. thank you very much. Sorry for my English 😅
I run trail in HOKA Speedgoat 5's. I was in need of a new road shoe and Fleet Feet suggested the Bondi7 and More4. I chose the More4 as the transition to my heal to toe to felt quicker and more natural. Absolutley love my HOKA Speedgoats and love my More4s
I have both. I prefer the New Balance by quite a bit. It's more stable and more cushioned. I like the extra width of the new balance to get that stability.
I usually get around 10 months or a little over 1000 miles out of a pair of Bondi's before they break down and I start really feeling the Plantar F. After 6 or 7 pair of Hoka's I may give the NB a try, see how long they last. 😐? Thanks for the review btw. 👍
Same here mate , I run my shoes till they are completely tired , which can be over 1000 miles , obviously once they give me aches on distance that's when they're finished. 🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️
Invincible is softer and bouncier than these two. But also has issues for people with over pronation. If you want comfort and cushion with a stable ride, look at these two instead.
More v4: Confortável para o dia a dia e só! Não é leve! Faz muito barulho na sola caminhando, independente do terreno! Por ter muito amortecimento acabei com canelite! De tanto amortecimento a pessoa acaba forçando a pisada!!! Gerando uma dor insuportável na canela!!! Uso tam36 nesse modelo comprei 37 e o TAM ficou ok Pelo valor esperava mais!!! Esperava conforto sem dor!!!!! Inadequado para caminhada! É bonito só isso!
@marcevanfunte7291 They feel better but still having heel pain after prolonged standing. I added some tread labs arch support inserts but still have heel pain. I have very high arches though.
@marcevanfunte7291 hey, thought I'd let you know that I bought the brooks ghost and they feel soooo much better! They aren't as cushioned as the max, but they have a higher heel to toe drop and have relieved a lot of my pain.
@@mohammedkratos4352 I’m 💯 sure, as a Nurse I have 3 to 4 pairs every year so 800-1000£ a year in shoes only for work, Nike Adidas Hoka …in past 5 years I own almost everything was best in the line and this is my opinion 2023 New Balance are the most comfortable for daily routine
Just ordered bondi 7 in size 9 4E x wide hope this gives me more room in toe area , developing corn between little toe with size 9 D . Will try to stretch then or cut some relief in side of shoe and use them fir yard work
I've had the Bondi 6 and 7 and for both I had to just widen the toe box a little to not get blisters on my little toes (not the only shoes I've done that with). I use the old trick with inserting a plastic zip-loc bag carefully into the toe, mostly filling it with water, closing it and putting them in the freezer for 48hrs with the heels raised, repeat if necessary. That worked a treat and never had any problems after! Yep I got a good 700km out of each, but after pushed them to over 900km using them on shorter runs and on the treadmill at the gym.
Thanks for the tip, Bondi 7 just ordered size 9 4E x wide hope this give me more room in toe, developing corn between my toe very painful , will try freezer trick, but may need to cut our side of shoe to give my little toe room in 9 D bondi 7 lol
I have the Bondi 7 and the More V3 and the fit on those is very different. The Bondi (in wide) has a bucket seat type feel, which put pressure on the outer metatarsals. The More has a very wide toe box that is great for my semi wide forefoot. Also, the Bondi always felt heavy on foot.
Agreed, the Bondi feels heavier on foot indeed.
I have the Bondi 7 and the More V3. The Bondi 7 is an awful shoe in every way. The More V3 does a better job as a recovery shoe but I have come to dislike these high foam stack height shoes in general. My next shoe will be the Puma deviate nitro 2.
I have bondi in 2e and its still narrow in toe box....also i not feel it as soff shoe...clifton is more cushy imo
I just ordered both and i sent the Bondi back. I dont run, i need comfort for Arthritis and rhe cushioning for walking is far superior in the NB.
Thank you, I have arthritis also and was looking for the most comfortable shoe.
Mmm, fascinating. I have been wearing Hoka starting off with the Clifton line back in 2018. Then tried the Bondi line which up until last year seemed to be rather comfortable. However, the latest Hoka Bondi 8 version did not leave up to expectations - quite painful at times after long walks. Currently researching NB, I know they have official seal of approvals from podiatrists and they are recommended especially for those with wide feet and plantar fasciitis issues which fits the bill for me, so I might give it a try this time. The only thing that put me off all these years from trying NB is the design and logo, I really do not like them, but maybe I will find something good. Comfort now more important than aesthetics.
I put on the bindi this weekend.. I love my NB 1080 V12 the more V4 it’s amazing for a jogger and the new 1080 V13 it’s comfort.. the NB FFX outclass the Bondi foam. Not a personal vendetta here just sensitive feet average
I had a Bondi 7 and used it for treadmill running. The problem is the back inside of the shoe come apart and expose the plastic behind it. I need to try NB More.
Me too
Love the review, I have always wanted to like Hoka and their lineup but even with wide versions they still just aren't wide enough. New Balance wins for me, I have had all versions of the More and have really liked the way it has evolved. Love your videos, keep them coming.
I think Nb more is not sold in Wide in europe...only standard.... and i agree bondi in 2e is still narrow, especially in toe box
@@slavasss2189it is sold in wide, I just bought a pair (live in EU)
@@jimjamthebananaman1 where? can't find them in europe in wide.
I have the Bondi 8, the New Balance fresh foam more v4, and also the New Balance FuelCell Super Comp Trainer the Bondi 8 dose not last, I walk 10 + miles every day fast as I can (cant run rod and screws in right ankle) and they have the absolute most wear and are the least comfortable. I just got the New Balance FuelCell SCT so I can't say about it but the more v4 is leaps and bounds better than the Hoka at everything comfort, longevity, and breathability. now so far I am loving the new FuelCell SCT its very nice and has bounce after the squish down and I'm liking it so far!!!
I've had the Bondi and More v4 and completely agree. The Bondi just doesn't last.
owned multiple NB fresh foam versions in the past they were too soft for my foot , moved to the bondi 8 the fit and foam is more to my liking.
I have both these shoes and can't understand why these are in the same category? They are night and day difference with the V4 being very soft cushion while the Bondi is thick but very hard and heave sole.
I just ordered both More v4 and Nimbus 25. Gonna test both and return one
How is Nimbus 25 in comparison with More V4?
@@patrickh.7644I have both.
The Nimbus is soft and has a springy feel that helps propel you forward if you run. I use them for walking and in that application it is not as pronounced.
The More v4 are softer and provide more cushioning. Personally I prefer them. The Nimbus are still very soft but the More v4s are softer.
Depending on the color I think the Asics can be a casual shoe without sticking out (design wise)
To me the Nimbus are overpriced at retail price level but with a good discount they provide good value.
Good review. Detailed to a fault, which I appreciated. Having run in both shoes I founf the New Balance More v4 to be the plushest and most comfortable shoe i have ever worn. I am an overpronator but don't have that problem with this New Balance. I believe the New Balance is stable because of a coombination of its width and plush cushioning which holds the foot in preventing overpronation. Don't get me wrnong, the Bondi is a great shoe that I continue to wear.
I love the More v3! It has been my go to max cushioned shoe and on my 2nd pair. Can’t wait to get my hands on a pair of the v4’s! The Bondi wide always hurt the outside of my feet and I had to return them after one run. Great shoe just didn’t work for my wide foot.
Thanks for sharing! I think the 4 is a little more exciting than the 3 so looking forward to hearing from you if you remember and can drop me a comment once you tried the 4!
I had the Bondi in wide and I had the same problem. The More is great for we duck-footed runners.😁
@@kuriosites HOKA wide has the same width of the insole as the normal one. They just add more material to the upper.. Its a trick they do to save money. The only Hoka that is relative wide is the Mach 5.
@@i.p2088 That makes sense. I like the ride of the More better anyway; it feels lighter than it is and has such a nice roll through.
@@i.p2088 , now I know why I only feel comfortable in Mach 5 Wide compared to other Wide models from Hoka
I am looking for a good everyday, walking/standing all day comfort shoe. Have been torn with the More v4 vs the Clifton 8/Bondi 8, and Saucony Tempus. I have wider feet and wouldn’t mind some stability. Which one would provide the best value in regards to stability and comfort for just being on my feet all day. Thank you!
Have you chosen one already?
NB 1080
Or 860 is young need support
I dont know what to take, Hoka bondi 8 or those one, any advice ? I’m a beginner in running but I walk a lot
The invincible run 3 are the squishies of the max cushion shoes
They are but they weren’t out back when I shot this video :)
Hoka's always cause me a lot of pain ! footpain, legpain, pain everywhere , anyway ... great work on the channel @Alexfilitti
Thanks so much for the comment, Kevin!!
Seriously? I put Hoka Clifton 8 on my 2023 bucket list. 😅
Thanks so much for the review, by any chance do you know any slip on shoe like this ones? Thanks
Happy with the MoreV4 after wearing HOKAS since 2017
Are this Bondi wider on the toe box?, the last bondi I tried, had to switch to Clifton (great shoe), and I tried the wide on both. Hope this bondi is wider.
Hello, good afternoon. Forgive me if I ask you a question. I have the foot exactly 27,5 cm long, and the foot is normal width, a little thin , that with the asics I go with the 45 European, which is 28,5 cm. I am looking at all the places and each one says something different. With this sneaker the more v4, which number do I have to catch? The 44 which is equivalent to 28 cm, or the 44.5 which is equivalent to 28.5 cm to go well? If you can help me I would be very grateful because I’m eating my head. thank you very much. Sorry for my English 😅
Plz can anyone tell me whats the differencees between more v3 and v4 ??? And Which one of them is best for wide feet ?
For those two what is the best for travelling like whole day standing and walking?
I'd say the NB More v4
Kindly give comparison between more v4 vs nike zoom x invincible run2
I run trail in HOKA Speedgoat 5's. I was in need of a new road shoe and Fleet Feet suggested the Bondi7 and More4. I chose the More4 as the transition to my heal to toe to felt quicker and more natural. Absolutley love my HOKA Speedgoats and love my More4s
First.. 😁, tried the More V4. Extremely comfortable.
Yes!
Kindly make a video about Nike zoom x invincible run 2 and what is most comfortable between invincible and more v4
I have both. I prefer the New Balance by quite a bit. It's more stable and more cushioned. I like the extra width of the new balance to get that stability.
Great comparison, thank you ! I use the Bondi 8 but am thinking I will try the More V4.
Hi kindly do you have any idea which one is more comfortable nike zoom x invincible or NEWBALANCE FRESH FOAM MORE v4
I prepare Hoka shoes Bondi 8 and i have Hoke Arahi 6 this shoes is so comfy and light weight when i run
Hello, which one is better for “bad” knees?
Probably the Hokas, at least in my opinion
@@AlexFilitti thanks!
Thanks for the review, which one would be better for someone who gets shin pain after running on the road?
The shin pain will reduce and eventually go away with time just reduce the miles you run and do a lot more recovery drills
I have inside front knee pain. Which one would you recommend for me?
what is the best shoe for walking?
new balance foam
NB 1080 v13
The new balance is a far superior shoe, in my opinion. I hate to say that because I have loved Hokas for over a decade.
I usually get around 10 months or a little over 1000 miles out of a pair of Bondi's before they break down and I start really feeling the Plantar F. After 6 or 7 pair of Hoka's I may give the NB a try, see how long they last. 😐? Thanks for the review btw. 👍
Did you try then? Just wondered how your PF is?
Weird
I could have sworn the more v4 is 8mm drop not 4 like he said
Same here mate , I run my shoes till they are completely tired , which can be over 1000 miles , obviously once they give me aches on distance that's when they're finished. 🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️
How do they compare with Nike Invincible2?!
Invincible is softer and bouncier than these two. But also has issues for people with over pronation. If you want comfort and cushion with a stable ride, look at these two instead.
Thank you for, you know, making this video.
You’re welcome, Dennis!
Don't hedge so much Alex. Spit it out and let the chips fall where they may! Corleone, G.
I dont like Bondi 8, upper quality is not very good, bad stitching around lace and tongue. Feet keeps moving due to wide shoe size.
if you have wide foot i dont recommend bondis
Which of the 2 has the most stable ride? Or is it similar?
Very close but maybe a touch more stable for the Hoka
I run in Hoka for 99% of the time because of that. Would to run in something else for once 😂
More v4: Confortável para o dia a dia e só!
Não é leve! Faz muito barulho na sola caminhando, independente do terreno!
Por ter muito amortecimento acabei com canelite! De tanto amortecimento a pessoa acaba forçando a pisada!!! Gerando uma dor insuportável na canela!!!
Uso tam36 nesse modelo comprei 37 e o TAM ficou ok
Pelo valor esperava mais!!! Esperava conforto sem dor!!!!! Inadequado para caminhada!
É bonito só isso!
More v4 is a legend have two pairs
I'm doing a lot of walking/standing 8+ hours and my bondi 6's are not working. 😩 Just ordered the v4 to try.
how has it gone? in the same boat
Any updates?
@marcevanfunte7291 They feel better but still having heel pain after prolonged standing. I added some tread labs arch support inserts but still have heel pain. I have very high arches though.
@@x3kloee yikes, okay tell me if you found a shoe that suits you ayt?
@marcevanfunte7291 hey, thought I'd let you know that I bought the brooks ghost and they feel soooo much better! They aren't as cushioned as the max, but they have a higher heel to toe drop and have relieved a lot of my pain.
Oohhh! podrías poner en el video subtitulos en español,un saludo 👋
So which one is more cusion?
More v4
@@AlexFilitti .. and more v3 ??? Good for wide feet ?? Plz answer me
On aime l'accent ;) Super contenu !!
Merci!!
Has anyone raced a marathon with Fresh Foam X More v4?
More v3 kicked out my Bondi 6.
Would you recommend either of these for a 50k ultra if you aren’t aiming for a fast time?
Ultra on the road? I would probably pick something softer like the Nike Invincible but the More v4 would certainly do a fine job
@@AlexFilitti My More v3 was more comfy than the slightly unstable Invincible 1.
Awww cute shoes… but everyone is gonna buy the Altra Via 🔥
I don't know but they're all in the same category for sure ;-)
I have more v3 and more v4. Love them
Which one do you prefer?
@@AlexFilitti v4
My wife is a nurse and loves the hoka.
Is only one King 👑 of comfortable shoes 👞 NewBalance
Nothing else comes even close
Are you sure
@@mohammedkratos4352 I’m 💯 sure, as a Nurse I have 3 to 4 pairs every year so 800-1000£ a year in shoes only for work, Nike Adidas Hoka …in past 5 years I own almost everything was best in the line and this is my opinion 2023 New Balance are the most comfortable for daily routine
Have you ever wears Skechers?
I have wide feet and the More V4 is wide enough for me in the normal width. TTS.
That's a super valuable comment! Thanks!! Wide feet people, come CHECK this!
Just ordered bondi 7 in size 9 4E x wide hope this gives me more room in toe area , developing corn between little toe with size 9 D . Will try to stretch then or cut some relief in side of shoe and use them fir yard work
Is More v3 trail good for wide feet ???
@@mohammedkratos4352 yes
@@i.p2088 ... But what what the differencees between v3 and v 4
Thicc
Yup!!
Bondi 8 is just awful. Tight uppers and foam is worse than the Bondi 7. Cant wait to try the More v4
Exact same experience here
just terrible
Both?