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  • @SlyRyFry
    @SlyRyFry Місяць тому +9542

    If the plane is boeing, we ain't going

    • @Vuuduu
      @Vuuduu Місяць тому +7

      Don't translate...
      भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु ‎ ‎

    • @PringleAhh
      @PringleAhh Місяць тому +18

      *Chip.*

    • @lucienmoolman8017
      @lucienmoolman8017 Місяць тому +242

      Words to live by... quite literally

    • @cassandraotroy6325
      @cassandraotroy6325 Місяць тому +3

      😂

    • @oscarbp7618
      @oscarbp7618 Місяць тому +172

      @@Vuuduuimagine threatening someone and telling them to subscribe to you to cure a damn curse

  • @bogosbingted
    @bogosbingted Місяць тому +24298

    yea, im sure he died of suicide after he told everyone he knew he wasent suicidal, so crazy how he was a whistleblower too

    • @PringleAhh
      @PringleAhh Місяць тому +165

      *Chip.*

    • @BobbyLvl138
      @BobbyLvl138 Місяць тому

      Why would Boeing kill the guy SEVEN YEARS after he originally blew the whistle? The only person that said he didn't kill himself was his mother's friend's daughter. An aquintance he hardly knew. All of his immediate close family members said he killed himself.

    • @johnsonjunior547
      @johnsonjunior547 Місяць тому

      bro he rose concerns about the production standards. Hes not fucking snowden.Your worldview of the deep state bullshit isn't true

    • @johannderjager4146
      @johannderjager4146 Місяць тому +1

      Everyone knows it was a targeted aßaßination, Boeing trying to act like they weren't responsible is hilarious to see because no one believes them.

    • @DanielPennybaker
      @DanielPennybaker Місяць тому +1632

      He is one of the biggest whistleblowers in aviation history who just happened to die by suicide. A big coincidence if you ask me.

  • @kyleshuler2929
    @kyleshuler2929 Місяць тому +940

    "Boeing; if our planes dont kill you, we will."

  • @TruFire710
    @TruFire710 Місяць тому +2639

    You telling me it’s completely possible that the pilots died thinking it was their fault the plane went down, that’s sickening.

    • @bowenjarrell-guth602
      @bowenjarrell-guth602 Місяць тому +226

      That is f*cked honestly

    • @ferrisbueller9991
      @ferrisbueller9991 Місяць тому +96

      Well that is truly insult to injury to these pilots chosen to roll the dice w/o knowing it.
      Lets give it up for Lockheed Martin I guess.

    • @honeysunday
      @honeysunday Місяць тому +68

      Oh my god I didn’t realize that. That’s so horrible. May they rest in peace

    • @awildhampter8570
      @awildhampter8570 Місяць тому +9

      @@ferrisbueller9991or airbus, just not boeing

    • @abintr0
      @abintr0 Місяць тому +3

      Don’t airlines have entire crews checking the planes like on a daily basis? Not just the pilots themselves

  • @lucienmoolman8017
    @lucienmoolman8017 Місяць тому +22416

    Boeing pulled a "he committed suicide by 17 bullets to the head, strapped to a chair, hit himself with a baseball bat 34 times". But rest in peace John Barnett.

    • @PringleAhh
      @PringleAhh Місяць тому +103

      *Chip*

    • @402versegaming
      @402versegaming Місяць тому +171

      @@PringleAhhPringle

    • @aj9969
      @aj9969 Місяць тому

      He got Epsteined

    • @masansr
      @masansr Місяць тому +533

      In Europe it's "He accidently fell on a knife, 17 times in a row". I think something very like that has actually been said in a courtroom.
      Also wth why is it 17 both times?

    • @igotktfobyafoot-stomper3979
      @igotktfobyafoot-stomper3979 Місяць тому +244

      ⁠@@masansrto show people how “suicidal they are”

  • @mactep1
    @mactep1 Місяць тому +6738

    Remember, Charlie is not suicidal...

    • @PringleAhh
      @PringleAhh Місяць тому +51

      *Chip.*

    • @Mikemegabyte
      @Mikemegabyte Місяць тому +67

      @@PringleAhhtrue spam

    • @yourface588
      @yourface588 Місяць тому +78

      ​@@Mikemegabyteactually, true spam

    • @-Blueness-
      @-Blueness- Місяць тому +58

      We gotta make this comment upvoted more I’m actually a little worried

    • @KameronBuchanan
      @KameronBuchanan Місяць тому +2

      @@Mikemegabyteit’s a bot

  • @rnggaming1060
    @rnggaming1060 Місяць тому +205

    We need a “I survived a Boeing flight” t-shirt

  • @Brett77902
    @Brett77902 Місяць тому +577

    I was actually supposed to be on that Ethiopian airlines flight that crashed in 2019. Absolutely crazy. I was booked for it a few weeks in advance and at the last minute I had to change my flight to a week later due to a delay in plans. When I heard of the crash I was horrified.
    The MCAS system mistook takeoff angle as stalling and nose dived the plane right off the runway. Talking about pilots fighting the system, they didn’t even have a chance. They had no idea it was even there, then suddenly had their controls overridden during take off with no time to react.

    • @astronomy7823
      @astronomy7823 Місяць тому +79

      That's absolutely terrifying, I'm glad to hear you dodged that death sentence. RIP to all the victims, they didn't die to an accident, they were basically murdered

    • @torresthemonster
      @torresthemonster Місяць тому +15

      Glad everything worked out , and your still here with us ❤️

    • @ImCantuxxx
      @ImCantuxxx Місяць тому +4

      Stop lying

    • @eisisice9208
      @eisisice9208 Місяць тому +6

      @@ImCantuxxxlying what? About your mom or something?

    • @Azuredemon_LKA
      @Azuredemon_LKA Місяць тому

      mCRASH

  • @terrifictomato262
    @terrifictomato262 Місяць тому +6551

    Boeing IS a military contractor, they would absolutely assasinate someone

    • @thx1138thecrane
      @thx1138thecrane Місяць тому +105

      This all up and down the street till next Sunday.

    • @DoBap_
      @DoBap_ Місяць тому +481

      Blackrock is one of Boeing’s top shareholders, who also own large shares of almost every major NATO manufacturer. Also the same company provided a government contract to ‘reconstruct’ Ukraine after the war is over…

    • @talpho3301
      @talpho3301 Місяць тому +226

      @@DoBap_blackrock owns a lot of almost everything, that’s what an investment firm does.

    • @TheAcidicMolotov
      @TheAcidicMolotov Місяць тому +28

      People just repeat things theyve recently heard. Horrible conclusion too. Its like saying kitchen knive companys will kill bc they make weapons

    • @bornablagojevic5699
      @bornablagojevic5699 Місяць тому

      @@TheAcidicMolotov there is sheep like u evrywhere thats why they can do what ever they want

  • @Yourname942
    @Yourname942 Місяць тому +2661

    I hate how higher-ups can avoid any repercussions by simply "stepping down"

    • @Zombade80
      @Zombade80 Місяць тому +164

      It's the higher ups' higher ups that ask them to step down so it doesn't stir up the pot any more. All the focus is on someone who just "stepped down" By the media.

    • @unyieldingrage1389
      @unyieldingrage1389 Місяць тому +44

      It’s fine they’ll step down into nothin but hell fire after they meet their maker

    • @Jubanen12
      @Jubanen12 Місяць тому +19

      Only to find themnself in similar position in another company... yeah its sickening. What can you do?

    • @lindafukuyu5767
      @lindafukuyu5767 Місяць тому +12

      I hope DOJ prosecute those Boeing Executives and Managers before they're stepping down. Accountability !!

    • @smh9902
      @smh9902 Місяць тому +2

      @@Jubanen12 I've got an answer, and by me I mean the blood god Khorne has an answer. His answer is effective and does, in fact, work.

  • @somebody700
    @somebody700 Місяць тому +385

    A textbook example of what happens when monopolies are present. No checks and no balances, they get to do whatever the heck they want to do and the result is devastating for everybody involved.

    • @transmogrifiers
      @transmogrifiers 28 днів тому +3

      Airbus?

    • @somebody700
      @somebody700 27 днів тому +7

      @@transmogrifiers They will get just as bad with enough time, don't worry

    • @transmogrifiers
      @transmogrifiers 27 днів тому +1

      @@somebody700 you know the theory that free markets convert personal interests into the benefit of the majority. I think we need to refine that theory to account for edge cases in the distribution of power. If someone can just kick the board or eliminate players, no wonder predictions won't hold.

    • @somebody700
      @somebody700 27 днів тому +8

      @@transmogrifiers the fundamental part of free market economy is that it's always possible for others to start fresh from within. Maintaining the freedom of the market is a tricky matter because you do need a government to enforce certain regulations that prevent monopolies from forming, but at the same time you have to be careful the government itself doesn't become the monopoly or is bought by special interests to enforce their monopoly.
      I think the problem at large is the generational accumulation of wealth. Pioneers care about quality service and they care about providing that to as many people as possible. People who inherit their success don't necessarily understand the creative part, so they tend to offer less creativity, and more predatory measures to maintain their wealth.

    • @mopar_man74
      @mopar_man74 23 дні тому

      ​@somebody700 the problem with the US government is that it HAS been bought by the monopolies to protect their interests thus the system is corrupt from the top down

  • @DRF1996
    @DRF1996 Місяць тому +736

    Lost someone I knew really well on the Ethiopian airlines crash, RIP Micah.. Just a really nice guy going to do some volunteer UN work

    • @nolmanimates3031
      @nolmanimates3031 Місяць тому +18

      Damn, rest in peace to a true G

    • @themakerstoolbox9688
      @themakerstoolbox9688 Місяць тому +31

      ​@@helpPSYCHONot the time or place. A person died show some respect.

    • @kyle_mk17
      @kyle_mk17 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@themakerstoolbox9688what's the joke?

    • @themakerstoolbox9688
      @themakerstoolbox9688 Місяць тому +17

      @@kyle_mk17 Micah and Dutch are characters from Red Dead Redemption 2. It's a pretty uncommon name so I guess the guy just felt the urge to make the reference.

    • @UnspokenFlame239
      @UnspokenFlame239 Місяць тому +3

      May he rest in peace 😢

  • @RayvenTheNight
    @RayvenTheNight Місяць тому +3833

    He died by "suicide" literally the night before he was supposed to testify in court about the very things he was trying to bring light to... So you really mean to tell me this man did a complete 180 and decide, "oh this very thing and information I've been trying to go public isn't that important anymore"....

    • @gileee
      @gileee Місяць тому +97

      If you wanna go public with something, isn't the internet the easiest way. And probably the most effective.
      Although he did become a martyr for a huge investigation of Boing I feel someone has to jump on now.

    • @demonicspire1345
      @demonicspire1345 Місяць тому +72

      Please do basic research. He brought problems about boeing to light in 2017, seven years ago. This "testimony" he was going to give was in his own *civil* lawsuit against boeing accusing them of hurting his career, and what's more it was going to be the *second* day of his testimony, he already did one day of it. Doesn't it bother you leaping to conclusions without even knowing the facts?

    • @blipblop888
      @blipblop888 Місяць тому +210

      @@demonicspire1345 does it really make sense though that in the middle of his civil lawsuit he just winds up dead due to "suicide"?
      i mean is their even evidence that he Mr. Barnett had suicidal thoughts prior? or at least some kind of mental health problems in the past?

    • @demonicspire1345
      @demonicspire1345 Місяць тому

      @@blipblop888 I mean, yes, if you ask EMTs or people who regularly deal with suicides, you will learn that many people will do it when a sudden mood strike them. Just look at Anthony Bourdain's death for example. The guy had already retired from boeing previously for health problems, and he was suing boeing because he felt they were responsible for his career going nowhere. So a guy with health problems, also depressed about his career?
      Does it really make sense to kill someone 7 years after they already blew the whistle on them? Think of the downright catastrophic risk that poses for whoever in boeing would order such a thing. If they botched the job it would be the end of the company, and a long jail sentence, if not the death penalty for anyone involved in planning the hit.
      What exactly did they stand to gain by doing it *now*? Face it, this is a dumb take and you don't want to admit you're gullible.

    • @denmark1226
      @denmark1226 Місяць тому +231

      ​@@blipblop888 There's zero evidence of suicidal thoughts in his past. He deadass told his family if he died, it's not suicide

  • @kirkginoabolafia3650
    @kirkginoabolafia3650 Місяць тому +7012

    John Barnett's murder was truly one of the few times that, quite literally, every single person I knew who I asked about this unanimously agreed that he was killed by Boeing. Boomers, Millennials, Gen Z, far right, far left, coworkers, family, friends, acquaintances. We all know the truth and all agree, for once, and nothing can be done about it. It sucks.

    • @NigerianCrusader
      @NigerianCrusader Місяць тому

      If trump was elected, something could be done for it you know? But you believe old joes lies! You I am so ashamed of you! There obvious lies aswell! Ridiculous!

    • @piotrd.4850
      @piotrd.4850 Місяць тому +283

      Sadly, I think Boeing had too much too lose to act so blantantly. I'd rather say that was somebody closely related to all what is Boeing doing, someone interested to keep supplier and largerst exporter in business and with actual experience not only in bulling but in wet work. Any idea who might that be?

    • @normanmai7865
      @normanmai7865 Місяць тому +393

      Technically, people who see the defects in Boeing planes caused by the Streisand effect of Barnett's death will absolutely now have a bias against Boeing's planes, and opt to ride others. Boeing, opting money over safety, has two options. Accept that their planes have safety issues and improve their planes, or accept the loss of revenue from their decreasing reputation in the public's perception. Alternatively, consumers absolutely have a choice as whether or not to ride Boeing planes due to their safety issues, which will have an effect on their revenue. Who knew that producing cheap and unsafe products would lose you money?

    • @valith1937
      @valith1937 Місяць тому +32

      Do you know anyone who actually cares about evidence? Usually people who care about the truth also care about evidence, and one depressed man going "I'm not suicidal" and then killing himself anyway isn't evidence that anyone else ACTUALLY killed him.

    • @MadocComadrin
      @MadocComadrin Місяць тому +24

      Encourage everyone to write to their senators, house representatives, the US AG, and the FAA.

  • @HamRadioCrashCourse
    @HamRadioCrashCourse Місяць тому +156

    I worked at Boeing for 13 years and left a bit after Stoneciphers reign. As an engineer it always felt like the business people drove the company and technical direction.

    • @truehappiness4U
      @truehappiness4U Місяць тому

      Capitalism society. Business men only care about the profit, as much profit. Cutting down on what those uneducated business men think are not important costs : employees, materials. Capitalism makes people much more selfish…. As long as they themselves don’t die they are okay with it LOL

    • @williamyoung9401
      @williamyoung9401 18 днів тому

      Fun fact: Philip Condit, the CEO of Boeing during the merger with McDonnell-Douglas, married his first cousin. 👍

    • @isqqcsmusic
      @isqqcsmusic 2 дні тому

      @@williamyoung9401 THATS WILD

  • @rrbenjy8431
    @rrbenjy8431 Місяць тому +87

    If he was suicidal he would have simply booked a flight with Boing

  • @1AmGroot
    @1AmGroot Місяць тому +2112

    15:09 are we not going to mention the fact that 37% of the planes tested failed the inspection? That is FUCKING TERRIFYING

    • @vincentgarcia2702
      @vincentgarcia2702 Місяць тому +111

      Whats more terrifying, is that there are planes still making it past inspection. clearly, if they are falling apart mid flight.

    • @crystalfire6677
      @crystalfire6677 Місяць тому +62

      37 percent is people's favourite choice when asked for a random number, according to Veritasium 😃

    • @justinlast2lastharder749
      @justinlast2lastharder749 Місяць тому +15

      That's what happens when you move from Experienced Workers for former Fast Food and Amazon Warehouse Workers for DEI Points. They moved from Bellevue Washington where they had a long time staff to South Carolina for Nikki Haley's DEI incentives. Low Income South Carolina.

    • @Mr_Vosakisen
      @Mr_Vosakisen Місяць тому +2

      BRO WHAT???

    • @Mr_Vosakisen
      @Mr_Vosakisen Місяць тому

      ​@@crystalfire6677😂😂😂

  • @clawgerber1992
    @clawgerber1992 Місяць тому +1917

    Flying is perfectly safe. You're statistically more likely to die blowing a whistle than flying in a jet after all.

    • @NigerianCrusader
      @NigerianCrusader Місяць тому

      And guess what else isn’t safe? Voting for Biden it is you 100% wouldn’t survive the planet after his presidency if trump wins however we all live

    • @paulfloyd951
      @paulfloyd951 Місяць тому +163

      As long as it's not a Boeing jet, sure.

    • @DJAUDIO1
      @DJAUDIO1 Місяць тому +9

      Agreed. It's really been issues mainly with the Max series aircraft. What a mess.

    • @clawgerber1992
      @clawgerber1992 Місяць тому +35

      @paulfloyd951 Tis a sarcastic joke. Imagine its Boeings PR department saying it and you'll understand.

    • @viderevero1338
      @viderevero1338 Місяць тому +15

      These sorts of statistics are always sort of dumb to me, because they seem to be weighed on sheer quantity.

  • @bansheebacklash3730
    @bansheebacklash3730 Місяць тому +102

    Full disclosure, I am NOT any kind of subject matter expert. I'm just a guy who's interested in planes, manufacturing and logistics and I've worked in and around the industries for a few years. So this is just a ground level interpretation. Please do not take my words at face value and please listen to actual subject matter experts. From what I hear though, sounds like they agree with me.
    I was working for a small FAA Certified repair shop in Texas when the Ethiopian Air 737 went down in 2018. Now, our shop was like, 90% Embraer parts, and then the remaining 10% was a random assortment of exhaust ducts from various small carriers, as well as a sprinkling of Saudi Aramco helicopter ducts. Before my time, sometime in the previous 5 years, we did some work on a Boeing part. Don't think it was even remotely involved with the MCAS or any adjacent systems. FAA still came through and audited our chemical cabinet because they keep records on ALL THAT SHIT. Like FAA regulations are, when held to the theoretical standards, are kind of insane.
    That's why this whole situation kind of blows me away. Either, the FAA is corrupt, complicit or just fucking impotent, and/or Boeing has figured out how to stay under the radar somehow. Must be copying Lockheed's homework. Like the sheer diversity of safety violations I'm hearing cover so many different areas of the manufacturing and maintenance process that they just need to shut down the whole company. If the FAA does their job, they're gonna get fined into bankruptcy anyway.
    Like them reusing scrap metal; the repair guys used to do XRay scans of titantium flight rails (rails that allow the flaps on the wings to adjust postion to modify lift generated) to make sure there weren't any microscopic cracks within the interior of the metal. If the flap rail didn't meet minimum spec, everything about the part had to be documented, our QA guy (who used to work on F-111s in the air force back in the day) had to sign off on it, label the part as "scrap", and the part had to be moved to a dedicated, clearly labeled separate area of the shop set aside for scrap. It had to be intentionally destroyed (to the best of our ability and disposed of afterwards. The fact that employees manufacturing the planes still couple obstain scrap parts that didn't pass inspect and use them to manufacture the planes speaks to so many process violations that I'm scared to get on an Boeing plane, let alone a 737 Max.
    Or the fact that Boeing "Doesn't keep repair records for that part" BOEING WHAT THE FUCK?! (Writing this as I listen). That's a 10 lb bag of nope in a 5 lb bag.

    • @codenamewolf1358
      @codenamewolf1358 Місяць тому +5

      wow.

    • @vibaj16
      @vibaj16 Місяць тому +11

      A great comment I saw: "If he wanted to commit suicide, he would've just booked a flight on a Boeing plane"

  • @lolzawowza4022
    @lolzawowza4022 Місяць тому +20

    i’ve always hated the “flying is safer than diving a car” thing because while you might survive a car crash you most certainly won’t survive an airplane crash. it’s the fact that one little thing goes wrong and you are all plummeting to your certain death for me

    • @GabrielTobing
      @GabrielTobing 22 дні тому +1

      Legit man

    • @Phoenix-yz8op
      @Phoenix-yz8op 15 днів тому +4

      omg I'm so glad someone agrees, i'm so tired of people telling me my fear of planes is "silly" and it's "so much safer then driving a car" I always thought i at least had a chance to survive and even had some control in the situation with a car crash whereas in a plane we all go down and only a couple people really have control. your placing your life in the hands of someone without knowing their intentions or knowing what could happen.I'd rather not.

    • @icewing202
      @icewing202 10 днів тому +3

      honestly another thing. i know there are exceptions to this and it depends on the accident but for the most part in a car crash it's usually instantaneous, you dont really have time to sit and ponder that your life is in danger. whereas in a plane crash you're probably well aware for a good while that something is WRONG and you have zero control over any of it at all

    • @lolzawowza4022
      @lolzawowza4022 10 днів тому

      @@icewing202 THISTHISTHISTHIS OMG

    • @icewing202
      @icewing202 10 днів тому

      @@lolzawowza4022 like if im gonna die i'd prefer it just be an instant thing where i only have a few seconds to process it as opposed to hypothetically spending hours on a doomed vessel (like, when they lose all control over hydraulics and basically just spend hours flying erratically until the plane runs out of fuel with zero control over the plane, which is my worst nightmare tbh) knowing that when it finally crashes i have an extremely low chance of surviving it

  • @user-py6nk3dd6y
    @user-py6nk3dd6y Місяць тому +10664

    It’s called Boeing because that’s the sound it makes when their wheels fall off.
    Edit, men in black suits are now at my door.

    • @Vuuduu
      @Vuuduu Місяць тому +6

      Don't translate...
      भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु ‎ ‎

    • @PringleAhh
      @PringleAhh Місяць тому +11

      *Chip.*

    • @theblackcatgirl7013
      @theblackcatgirl7013 Місяць тому +217

      NAH YOU DID NOT JUST "BOING" THIS 😭 😭 😭

    • @leomartino3902
      @leomartino3902 Місяць тому +146

      Boeing 747 casualties
      Boeing 737 parts missing

    • @lpc9929
      @lpc9929 Місяць тому

      Why the is the curse. Cannot brainwashed me. I ​@@Vuuduu

  • @OLDMANWAFFLES
    @OLDMANWAFFLES Місяць тому +4893

    He stated to his family that if anything happened to him, Boeing was responsible for it, and that he would never kill himself. This happened the day before he was set to testify against Boeing. Nothing will happen to Boeing for this and that’s extremely scary seeing as they are a main contractor of the US defense department.

    • @PringleAhh
      @PringleAhh Місяць тому +6

      *Chip*

    • @Big.Aziza_not.tha_lil_1
      @Big.Aziza_not.tha_lil_1 Місяць тому +2

      Crazy how I am stronger than 3 kids as a girl 😘

    • @42ZEROLicksMyBalls
      @42ZEROLicksMyBalls Місяць тому

      And the corrupt DOJ for the current administration will do nothing about it

    • @crossfire4691
      @crossfire4691 Місяць тому +409

      Cyberpunk be looking really realistic with each passing day

    • @daviswhite3591
      @daviswhite3591 Місяць тому

      Corpos ​@@crossfire4691

  • @hedgeearthridge6807
    @hedgeearthridge6807 Місяць тому +135

    I'm a manufacturing quality analyst, this whole situation is like our equivalent of watching Live Leak; it's horrifying but you can't look away, there's a lot of stuff to learn from it. Companies shouldn't need Quality departments, but they do because the Quality personnel are like the prophets that try to keep the production management in check. In this case the quality team lost, and their prophesies of what would happen if quality was ignored is becoming real. Planes falling apart in the air, and a nationwide scandal that could bury the entire company.

    • @ayoCC
      @ayoCC Місяць тому +1

      the company was not calibrated well enough between quality and profits

    • @floralfox
      @floralfox Місяць тому +5

      @@ayoCCya, the whole reason the Ethiopian and Lion Air crashes happened was bc boeing favored profit over quality & safety, they deliberately hid the mcas from the manuals for the plane so they wouldn’t have to pay for simulator training. its fucked up

    • @theapologist6717
      @theapologist6717 Місяць тому

      At the end there you spelled ‘should’ wrong.

    • @blackhat1018
      @blackhat1018 21 день тому

      The scandal absolutely should bury Boeing. The company should not exist anymore.

  • @huntercool2232
    @huntercool2232 Місяць тому +86

    6:47 Adding a new system to the plane without informing the pilots. What an absolutely genius decision by Boeing!

  • @r3gret2079
    @r3gret2079 Місяць тому +2840

    When someone says "I'm not suicidal so if I end up dead..." you really gotta step back n take another good, long look at the situation. That is some shit to say right before being found dead from an apparent "suicide". Suspicious as fuhyuk.

    • @AngryAlfonse
      @AngryAlfonse Місяць тому +139

      Yep. I'm sure there are exceptions, but when people "do the thing" they almost never mention "doing the thing" to loved ones. On rare occasion they'll mention "doing the thing" when asking someone for help, which I've experienced before, but I've never heard of a case of someone telling loved ones "I won't do the thing" and then doing it -- with the sole exceptions of suspicious cases like this one, 3p$+31n, and John McAfee.
      (Saying "do the thing" and censoring the one guy's name because UA-cam censors me for saying literally anything these days)

    • @BloodVain87
      @BloodVain87 Місяць тому +38

      Its a double edged sword, because to truly protect himself he would have to post publicly with a video message about how he isnt suicidal every day, and if he did that with nothing happening eventually people lose interest and then.. it happens

    • @ForsenArchive
      @ForsenArchive Місяць тому +72

      @@AngryAlfonseJohn McAfee is a sole case where I legitimately think he would say "I won't do the thing" and then do the thing just to confuse people

    • @littlegirlshowSynch
      @littlegirlshowSynch Місяць тому +4

      "Suspicious"
      Pretty pathetic seeing people say this tbh

    • @GrrillaFinger
      @GrrillaFinger Місяць тому

      Wouldn't really call it suspicious. There have been too many obvious "he suicided himself" situations. It's just blatant murder directly in the public eye that nobody really can do anything about.

  • @Manya172
    @Manya172 Місяць тому +2185

    > Penguinz0
    > Afraid of flight
    Username checks out

  • @danny34574
    @danny34574 Місяць тому +231

    It says a lot when I find more news coverage about the Boeing whistleblower mysteriously dying coming from a youtuber and none of the major or semi-major news sources

    • @xa-12musk8
      @xa-12musk8 Місяць тому +8

      They reported on it too

    • @armorhide406
      @armorhide406 Місяць тому +7

      It did make news though

    • @Parastack
      @Parastack Місяць тому +29

      guy who literally does not read nor watch any news at all: "wow never seen them cover this"

    • @Kat_Creates
      @Kat_Creates Місяць тому

      @@Parastack My dad who is retired and only watches the news hasn't heard about it. All my university friends have heard nothing about this. I only remember briefly hearing things about plane crashes but that's only after they happened and the name Boeing never stood out. Lots and lots of people are in the dark about this because the media doesn't dedicate a ton of time to the issue. Fox 11 LA only ran a 38 sec segment about his death and the case he was pursuing. The news you get all depends on what you are watching now. Its almost impossible for someone to be completely informed about every event taking place or connect the dots of a 2018 plane crash to a 2024 plane malfunction so its very important for individual journalism to be done.

  • @dannyperry2541
    @dannyperry2541 15 днів тому +14

    I used to work for Boeing right before Covid hit the States and I had a lot of sus experiences over there. Funny enough, My boss who ran my department at the time admitted that Boeing doesn’t care about the plane safety and brushed it off as “Eh, Who cares, it was just one of two planes that crashed”. My job was to reorganize returns of parts from commercial and military equipment, here is what I experienced.
    1. They had the most disorganized, most outdated system I had ever seen. Not only were the computers they were using outdated by almost 30 years, there was equipment that had not been processed as a return since the early 2000s. No one bothered to actually do their work and even ignored returns that are more than 20 years old.
    2. I accidentally held very toxic equipment, more than once really, due to shipment being incorrectly transported to the wrong warehouse. And when I say they missed their shipment destination by 1,000s of miles, I’m not kidding. Not knowing what I would hold because I’m not trained to know, Management would tell me to just ignore it and not talk about it. Does that sound normal?
    3. An employee made a very racist remark to an immigrant infront of the whole staff, in which everyone got pretty upset at what was said. After the meeting was over, I found out that the employee who made the racist comment walked away with no penalties. As a matter of fact, I was told to shut up and not talk about what was said. I of course told my team lead that I was absolutely going to report this, which was my fault that I even said anything.
    Next day, I got a call from Boeing that I was fired for “taking advantage of my lunch break and purposely showing up late to work” which never happened once. They absolutely fired me so I couldn’t say anything about what was going on at the warehouse. Boeing is a company that is on its way to becoming a Docuseries on Netflix and I have actually experience to confirm that.

    • @avgolden1974
      @avgolden1974 5 днів тому +1

      Can't wait to see a movie about this.

    • @kinseylise8595
      @kinseylise8595 3 дні тому +2

      Sounds like you should be one of the impassioned eyewitnesses in the docuseries, something to keep an eye out for.
      Edit: and probably with some identity protection given their track record...

  • @Badger_Knight
    @Badger_Knight Місяць тому +2138

    It's so mindblowing how everyone seems to unanimously agree that his death is highly suspicious, to the point where it's very clear that it was "assisted suicide," yet no one wants to investigate the billion dollar company hiring essentially Pinkerton agents to off whistleblowers.

    • @comet.x
      @comet.x Місяць тому +74

      'essentially'
      honestly it could have actually been them

    • @littlegirlshowSynch
      @littlegirlshowSynch Місяць тому +209

      The fact that anyone even uses the term "suspicious" for this is a bit of an example of why they could have just done it live in front of a 100 million people while telling them why they're doing it, and it wouldn't matter for more than a few months lmfao

    • @Astroqualia
      @Astroqualia Місяць тому +40

      Welcome to America

    • @MashZ
      @MashZ Місяць тому +35

      Privilege of being a key contractor to the strongest military in the world

    • @littlegirlshowSynch
      @littlegirlshowSynch Місяць тому +68

      @@Astroqualia LOL you think this type of thing is exclusive to America?
      Welcome to the modern world

  • @Cosmic_Espeon
    @Cosmic_Espeon Місяць тому +2650

    Airports are now letting passengers bring drills and tools in their carry on luggage, so they can do the plane maintenance themselves

    • @user-ue9nh8ev4c
      @user-ue9nh8ev4c Місяць тому +4

      Is that really true?

    • @miacasual1263
      @miacasual1263 Місяць тому +159

      Me when I purposefully spread misinformation on the internet

    • @user-ue9nh8ev4c
      @user-ue9nh8ev4c Місяць тому +12

      ​@@miacasual1263I've heard of this comment, but with all the insanity today I really wonder if it's true

    • @chriskyle9414
      @chriskyle9414 Місяць тому

      @@user-ue9nh8ev4cyou gotta be special kind of dumb to believe that😂

    • @GlobalOutcast
      @GlobalOutcast Місяць тому

      No, the guy was joking​@@user-ue9nh8ev4c

  • @pixilmon
    @pixilmon Місяць тому +36

    Charlie is protected because he knows the difference between clips and mags

    • @TheFirstCurse1
      @TheFirstCurse1 15 днів тому

      There is no difference. One is slang for the other. People who get mad over it are just snowflakes going "Um acktually 🤓".

    • @TheTimbs_
      @TheTimbs_ 11 днів тому +1

      @@TheFirstCurse1 you wouldn’t call an en-bloc clip a mag now would you.

  • @huntercool2232
    @huntercool2232 Місяць тому +50

    John Barnett: **dies the night before the finale court case against Boeing**
    “Coincidence? I THINK NOT!”

    • @bogosbingted
      @bogosbingted 15 днів тому

      imagine the footage leaks
      *IT WAS ME , DIO*

  • @047Kenny
    @047Kenny Місяць тому +1543

    We really gotta start holding these corporations accountable. This stuff isn’t a conspiracy

    • @PringleAhh
      @PringleAhh Місяць тому +3

      *Chip*

    • @ethanwmonster9075
      @ethanwmonster9075 Місяць тому +77

      ha like that'll ever happen.

    • @42ZEROLicksMyBalls
      @42ZEROLicksMyBalls Місяць тому +141

      Need to boycott, boycott, boycott, and then wait for the vigilantes to do their worst to CEOs

    • @Versace_sheets
      @Versace_sheets Місяць тому +1

      It literally, by definition, is a conspiracy theory.

    • @manwiththeredface7821
      @manwiththeredface7821 Місяць тому +49

      As if anyone can hold them accountable. That ship has sailed a long time ago.

  • @corota_toyolla
    @corota_toyolla Місяць тому +1409

    as someone working in aviation the most unbelievable part to me is how boeing is saying that they no longer keep records of certain repairs. one of the first things i heard after entering the industry was that an aircraft doesn't fly until you have it's equal weight in paperwork. how do they think it's ok not to keep records???

    • @vissermatt1058
      @vissermatt1058 Місяць тому +140

      Came up in a different lawsuit, losing evidence/proof of failure is a far less costly fine then proving you fucked it. Someone used a shredder or something, prob saved the company millions. Not that i think its good, but it is what it is

    • @Brandon82967
      @Brandon82967 Місяць тому +10

      you know why

    • @Redeyez2424
      @Redeyez2424 Місяць тому +39

      I work for a company that makes Boeing's engine parts and we literally have to keep all aircraft paperwork for like 25-30 years. I was moving a bunch of this paperwork and happened to see some of the dates on them and they went back to the mid 70's. They are full of b.s.

    • @Brandon82967
      @Brandon82967 Місяць тому +10

      @@Redeyez2424 this was corroborated by multiple engineers in court under oath lol. you're full of bs

    • @Redeyez2424
      @Redeyez2424 Місяць тому

      @@Brandon82967 k

  • @Apvizionz
    @Apvizionz Місяць тому +8

    How TF was no one held criminally accountable? Hundereds of people died because of someone's decisions.

  • @night_arho
    @night_arho Місяць тому +17

    It’s so crazy that Boeing came to my school to talk to us abt how good it is and I was actually hooked into it and then I see this story the very next day

    • @michaelpesa7104
      @michaelpesa7104 29 днів тому

      When were they at your school bro , recently ?

    • @sethrawbass
      @sethrawbass 26 днів тому +1

      Join and fix it!

    • @night_arho
      @night_arho 26 днів тому

      @@michaelpesa7104 yeah the news came out a day after they came in my school lmao

    • @night_arho
      @night_arho 17 днів тому

      @@michaelpesa7104 yeah literally a day before the news came out

  • @poltergeist078
    @poltergeist078 Місяць тому +885

    "If anything happens to me it's not suicide." WOOOOOW. The worst part is I am not surprised and this kind of thing probably happens all the time.

    • @liamstrand9295
      @liamstrand9295 Місяць тому +14

      more than people would think

    • @aconfusedcookie4615
      @aconfusedcookie4615 Місяць тому +9

      A LOT more than people think

    • @allegorx58
      @allegorx58 Місяць тому

      Seth Rich.

    • @deapolebossegus9135
      @deapolebossegus9135 Місяць тому

      @@allegorx58❤heart

    • @revolvingworld2676
      @revolvingworld2676 Місяць тому

      @@liamstrand9295
      Its way more common in China, in fact its pretty much an open secret that the CCP will just make you disappear if they have a problem with you

  • @MaceWielder
    @MaceWielder Місяць тому +1658

    About to wrap up my bachelors in mechanical engineering. So many of my professors have been saying that this is what we must watch out for in the field. As engineers, we take an oath of putting safety of the public above all else. If you start working in a business, and you see such safety risks and have told your overhead with no avail, report them. No job is worth the lives of thousands.

    • @wykydytron
      @wykydytron Місяць тому +85

      Your "oath" lasts till your first juicy paycheck.

    • @tommyfanzfloppydisk
      @tommyfanzfloppydisk Місяць тому +89

      yeah the oath lasts only till some situation arises and you're faced with no career progress, mansions devaluation, etc , just for speaking up on obvious issues, tell me how your first argument of "we've always done this, it saves time and it's never gone wrong" will go. bad practices for profit are way too common in today's world.

    • @potatofuryy
      @potatofuryy Місяць тому +4

      are you Canadian? Where I'm from we don't have an oath

    • @lambda6736
      @lambda6736 Місяць тому +54

      This. Hold on to your integrity.
      Because somewhere in the pipeline is someone without it.

    • @lambda6736
      @lambda6736 Місяць тому +35

      It does not.
      People trust our work. They put their lives into the hands of the engineers that build the bridges, planes, cars, and medical devices.
      If you stay silent, people die.
      And some folks (understandably) cannot afford to speak up. They have kids. Bills to pay.
      But by and large, we are not standing idly by. Usually on our teams, we are encouraged to discuss issues and report problems in a way that is safe.
      Obviously, that is not true everywhere. And some folks couldn't care less. But many of us still do have integrity.

  • @xllYumellxChan
    @xllYumellxChan Місяць тому +11

    I have family who works for Boeing. And while all this was happening, they were getting finned, they were doing cuts, layoffs, freezing bonuses for employees, freezing cost of living raises, but the CEO himself still got a multi million dollar Christmas bonus each year. LOL

  • @soundwavsonny
    @soundwavsonny Місяць тому +22

    I use to work at a major airport for years. One of my duties was pre aircraft inspection before the mechanic does the initial check prior to take off. A lot them are over worked and underpaid. I remember at least twice reporting cracks on an aircraft wing, to which I was told mark it. 10mins later here comes the duct-tape. First time I saw it happen I was shocked and even questioned the remedy. According to the answer I revived it's industry standard. Changed my view on flying.

  • @john_toss
    @john_toss Місяць тому +2405

    Boeing would be the type of company to “send someone” to Charlie’s house

    • @PringleAhh
      @PringleAhh Місяць тому +7

      *Chip.*

    • @Vuuduu
      @Vuuduu Місяць тому

      Don't translate...
      भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु ‎ ‎

    • @sinjin8576
      @sinjin8576 Місяць тому +52

      They'll send the Pinkertons. Hear they love working for mega corporations.

    • @Big.Aziza_not.tha_lil_1
      @Big.Aziza_not.tha_lil_1 Місяць тому

      Crazy how I am stronger than 3 kids as a girl 😘

    • @Brandoncook2018
      @Brandoncook2018 Місяць тому

      Straight, white, single, redneck, racist, and proud of it. Heeellll yeah Trump 2024

  • @Haileycartero
    @Haileycartero Місяць тому +1494

    It’s the fact that this guy worked for Boeing for SO long and the second that a whistleblower gets mentioned that he passed away just doesn’t settle well with me.

    • @PringleAhh
      @PringleAhh Місяць тому +13

      *Chip.*

    • @TypeZeta2
      @TypeZeta2 Місяць тому

      Boeing apparently makes all its money from killing people.

    • @NigerianCrusader
      @NigerianCrusader Місяць тому

      The thing that doesn’t settle well with me either is the fact that if trump loses everyone will die not just in America the entire world, all gone. So maybe we can stop it by voting trump?

    • @NigerianCrusader
      @NigerianCrusader Місяць тому

      BRO COME ON YOU DELETED MY COMMENT I WAS TRYING TO WARN YOU ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF TRUMP LOSES AND YOU DELETED IT WE ARE DOOMED

    • @NigerianCrusader
      @NigerianCrusader Місяць тому

      @@PringleAhhVOTE TRUMP PLEASE DONT TALK ABOUT YOUR CHIPS 🍟

  • @GraceT
    @GraceT Місяць тому +11

    I’m also terrified of planes. The part that scares me the most, is the thought of being aware of what’s going on in the event of a catastrophe.

  • @texsion
    @texsion Місяць тому +10

    Flying is definitely scary knowing you are legit stuck up there and have no control lol

  • @michaelmeilbeck6623
    @michaelmeilbeck6623 Місяць тому +1374

    Ive worked for the Navy, and in aviation for 15 years now. The fact this guy was murdered after 30 years of working for the company and ultimately trying to keep people safe has been, for me, one of the most painful examples of "The good guys don't win." Absolutely disturbing.
    Edit: wow, first comment to gain any traction. The whole situation given my experience with the industry and how these big companies operate just hurts. People might disagree he was murdered and that's fine, but that's all I see.

    • @valith1937
      @valith1937 Місяць тому +7

      It is def not a "fact" that he was murdered lol

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 Місяць тому +119

      @@valith1937 Sure bud

    • @theweakestlink2278
      @theweakestlink2278 Місяць тому

      He got Epstein'd

    • @valith1937
      @valith1937 Місяць тому +5

      @@kristoffer3000 fact implies there's good evidence for it. You can't go "Its suspicious, therefore its murder" with 0 evidence of a murder taking place

    • @Red-Clover_
      @Red-Clover_ Місяць тому +1

      What’s life like on a aircraft carrier

  • @itchiegames
    @itchiegames Місяць тому +495

    Boeing: He left behind a suicide note that read "I am not suicidal. I am happy and do not wish to die." Clearly the depressed thoughts of a suicidal man.

    • @coasterthekid8867
      @coasterthekid8867 Місяць тому +3

      But why would they kill the guy? Everyone would obviously assume it’s them right? I think it’s more likely that they were killed by a rival company that wants to ruin their brand image.

    • @andrewpinedo1883
      @andrewpinedo1883 Місяць тому

      @@coasterthekid8867Airbus: OH NO! THEY'RE ON TO US!

    • @Ooga_Boogaaaaa
      @Ooga_Boogaaaaa Місяць тому +2

      @@coasterthekid8867what we gonna do bout it? Make some UA-cam videos …🤷‍♂️ bleak world rn

    • @destroycraft1735
      @destroycraft1735 Місяць тому

      ​@@coasterthekid8867He was due to testify against them, which could potentially cause actual legal repercussions for some of those responsible. It also doesn't matter if everyone knows if it is a conspiracy or not, since the apathetic response of "there's nothing we can do" means they basically get away with it.
      "Justice isn't pursued if no one is seeking retribution"

  • @jusjeffrey
    @jusjeffrey Місяць тому +7

    The design flaw of the Boeing 737 was actually an essential part of a first yr Engineering course we had to take so it's kinda interesting hearing the same details lol.

  • @y5mgisi
    @y5mgisi Місяць тому +26

    I work at Boeing Portland. Over 16 years now. The funny thing is, it's been drilled into my head since day one that quality is of top importance. There has been multiple times where we have shut down production due to a quality issue that we found. That said, my location is union. So we have very little fear of repercussions for bringing up quality issues. Can't speak for other sites. That said, the "suicide" is definitely suspicious.

  • @begonexenos
    @begonexenos Місяць тому +513

    Boeing is so bad that a travel site has a feature that filters flights by plane model.

  • @bencurtis8838
    @bencurtis8838 Місяць тому +667

    Shit falling off Boeings airplanes is genuinely terrifying, imagine your house getting hit by an airplane tire while your just chilling watching TV

    • @Vuuduu
      @Vuuduu Місяць тому +2

      Don't translate...
      भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु ‎ ‎

    • @PringleAhh
      @PringleAhh Місяць тому +3

      *Chip*

    • @Chanpaiix
      @Chanpaiix Місяць тому +10

      ​@@PringleAhh u forgot the period

    • @Big.Aziza_not.tha_lil_1
      @Big.Aziza_not.tha_lil_1 Місяць тому

      Crazy how I am stronger than 3 kids as a girl 😘

    • @Chanpaiix
      @Chanpaiix Місяць тому +5

      @@Big.Aziza_not.tha_lil_1 how is that crazy

  • @Msjustice90
    @Msjustice90 Місяць тому +11

    You and me both Charlie. People tend to misconstrue that my fear of flying means I've never flown; the reality being I used to fly to NYC every summer to see family, I have done the 9 hour flight to Ireland to see my homeland and family, but flying just scares the shit out of me. My argument to anyone about it being safer than driving is " if my engine cuts out in my car, I don't plummet 30,000 feet". Now with all this going on, and me having to look at flights in order to see my sister...let's just say this has not eased my fears

  • @TheRealMrMajestic
    @TheRealMrMajestic Місяць тому +6

    This override control system is like something out of a horror movie 😂

  • @hatsmainman
    @hatsmainman Місяць тому +1032

    That's actually terrifying. My mom's always told me about how big companies send out assassins to kill whoever was putting them in a bad image. Really concerning.

  • @JustWowNick
    @JustWowNick Місяць тому +536

    Dude, his own SISTER not only said he wouldn’t be the kind of person to suddenly commit suicide, but also that he said HIMSELF that he wasn’t suicidal. How could I believe Boeing or the “””autopsy””” after that? Dude knew what he was up against and covered his bases, RIP king.

    • @AkaRystik
      @AkaRystik Місяць тому

      He was flat out warning people before it happened that if he turned up dead it wasnt suicide. Its so obvious someone had him killed that if nothing happens then we well and truly have no actual justice system in our society.

  • @johncress1859
    @johncress1859 Місяць тому +34

    100% with Charlie on this one. A multi billion dollar corporation with a vendetta and coercing you is not much difference from sending an actual hitman.

  • @TheRealMrMajestic
    @TheRealMrMajestic Місяць тому +6

    Anyone else see the new merch Boeing dropped; “I just survived a Boeing flight!”

  • @Zentai21
    @Zentai21 Місяць тому +179

    When one door closes, another door opens
    -Boeing probably

  • @hothotheat3000
    @hothotheat3000 Місяць тому +349

    Fear of flying is NOT irrational, and I say that as someone who loves to fly. We get into metal tubes and hurtle through the air at absurd speeds. I will never begrudge someone for being scared.

    • @retr0307
      @retr0307 Місяць тому

      wait until people find out about the giant tin cans operated by the average idiot who can't police their impulse anger especially under pressure at high speeds (cars)

    • @jcof2035
      @jcof2035 Місяць тому

      the people that aren’t scared at all are the teal idiots. Too stupid to be afraid

    • @ordinaryfellow9093
      @ordinaryfellow9093 Місяць тому +13

      fr like you're telling me flying 10000 meters at insane 900 km/h is irrational fear? we're not even designed to be in that kind of altitude, let alone being in an absurd speed!

    • @dukeofdarlo5896
      @dukeofdarlo5896 Місяць тому

      Nope but I will begrudge someone for constantly reading crap that gives them further reason to fear flying. I can't really feel like your fear is warranted if you are only going to look up the accidents or read articles compounding the reason for your fear.

    • @amapnamedpam
      @amapnamedpam Місяць тому

      @@dukeofdarlo5896 Boeing shill

  • @prodtre
    @prodtre Місяць тому +8

    7:20 seeing wendigoon face progressively get more shocked is just pure gold.

    • @patmans88
      @patmans88 8 днів тому

      That guy is annoying af I had to stop watching. OHHHH MYYY GOODDD WOOWWWWWWWWWWW

  • @BotanistOnDuna
    @BotanistOnDuna Місяць тому +3

    I'm a student pilot and an aviation enthusiast, and initially after the 737 max was brought back, I thought it was safe again. I used to be a Boeing fan. Then I realized that McDonnell Douglas strategies had infiltrated Boeing and had turned Boeing into McDonnell Douglas. McDonnell not only had a bad reputation themselves but also ruined the Well Engineered and Beautiful Mach 2 Supersonic Jet Concorde's reputation when a McDonnell plane left debris on the runway during takeoff, which got stuck in the Concorde and led to an engine blowing up followed by a crash. I am forever mad about that because I absolutely adore the Concorde and it was a marvel of clean and safe engineering. Thanks to Sir Barnett for exposing the shit show. After hearing about falsified records and scrap being used, I was done. I hate Boeing, I'm never flying on a Boeing plane again. Boeings are built like a new player's first Kerbal Space Program planes (engineered so bad that when they land they make a boom sound and the destination is heaven or hell). PS an example of how well engineered and safe Airbus is (same engineers behind the Concorde iirc) is the recent A350 crash where the plane was so well engineered that no one died or got injured. 350+ people on that A350 by the way.

  • @thejohnquixote
    @thejohnquixote Місяць тому +864

    I remember a comedian saying once, "yeah, but it's safer to crash in a car than it is in a plane. That's the stat that matters " 😂

    • @titann3546
      @titann3546 Місяць тому +9

      Yeah but its less safer travelling in a car then in a plane

    • @lastchanc3stars
      @lastchanc3stars Місяць тому +109

      ​@@titann3546I'd rather get out of a car wreck with a broken limb than crawl out of a plastic crash without both of my legs

    • @lastchanc3stars
      @lastchanc3stars Місяць тому +15

      ​@@titann3546I meant plane crash

    • @voxvolhynia5400
      @voxvolhynia5400 Місяць тому +56

      @@titann3546 Unless it's Boeing, in which case you are probably going to crash. And probably going to die in said crash. And if you managed to survive, they'll find you, and they'll help you undo that mistake.

    • @jackhanson3856
      @jackhanson3856 Місяць тому +13

      @@titann3546Will I be fucking eviscerated without possibility of any medical personnel making their way to me within 5 hours if I crash in a car?

  • @sacrilegiousboi978
    @sacrilegiousboi978 Місяць тому +740

    The fact Boeing deliberately withheld crucial information about the MCAS system from the pilots to save money on pilot training still makes my blood boil to this day.
    The Lion and Ethiopian crashes were not accidents, they were murders.

    • @omnipotentpumpkin9755
      @omnipotentpumpkin9755 Місяць тому

      Boeing kill innocent children almost every single day through the weapons they manufacturer and sell across the world. Worrying about their practices in commercial aviation travel compared to their business in destroying entire continents is like comparing a handgun to a nuclear weapon.

    • @thatoneguy1211
      @thatoneguy1211 Місяць тому +30

      Manslaughter, not murder. They were deaths caused by greed and negligence but weren’t malicious

    • @aphrodite7194
      @aphrodite7194 Місяць тому

      Quite malicious to withheld information to pilots. ​@@thatoneguy1211

    • @RoseRedRoseWhite
      @RoseRedRoseWhite Місяць тому +55

      @@thatoneguy1211 Greed is malicious. Choosing money over safety knowing mutilation or death could result...?

    • @ethananderson4578
      @ethananderson4578 Місяць тому +3

      @@RoseRedRoseWhitei assume malicious as in doing something with the intent of hurting another person

  • @intermidable
    @intermidable Місяць тому +5

    I said it once, I'll say it again: if I was ever a whistleblower on a mega corp like Boeing, I would be livestreaming 24/7 for the rest of my gd life. Aint no one gonna catch me dead and say I did it lmao

  • @alibosun4935
    @alibosun4935 Місяць тому +5

    RIP John Barnett

  • @XPkoolXD
    @XPkoolXD Місяць тому +385

    How was he NOT in the witness protection program specifically designed to prevent this exact situation?!

    • @whatthebeepvideos
      @whatthebeepvideos Місяць тому +45

      MUNEY!!!

    • @chickensdone1
      @chickensdone1 Місяць тому

      Witness protection program is designed to protect people from hardened criminals/organized crime, not white collar crime. Money talks.

    • @ImJustBag
      @ImJustBag Місяць тому

      Boeing makes aircrafts for the military so there was no effort from the government to protect him.

    • @Usersunited
      @Usersunited Місяць тому +85

      Because government doesnt want him to have anything more to say either.

    • @sickomode6440
      @sickomode6440 Місяць тому +21

      They didn't think Boeing would be stupid enough to do it

  • @orborborborb
    @orborborborb Місяць тому +617

    Crazy how they jumped to the conclusion that it was self inflicted right away.

    • @PringleAhh
      @PringleAhh Місяць тому +2

      *Chip.*

    • @spencerpearson6250
      @spencerpearson6250 Місяць тому +83

      @@PringleAhhcringe

    • @soapgaming4903
      @soapgaming4903 Місяць тому

      What do you want? A full investigation on how he died? It’s pretty easy to jump to suicide because of where he was shot.

    • @cube_2430
      @cube_2430 Місяць тому +35

      @@spencerpearson6250 i like him, he's a funny bot, compared to the others.

    • @yourface588
      @yourface588 Місяць тому +17

      ​@cube_2430 its a bot nonetheless

  • @ragingpure98
    @ragingpure98 Місяць тому +5

    The MCAS was designed to fail from the beginning with no redundancy or backup systems in place, such as having the right AOA sensor having to match before the system pushes the nose down. Therefore only taking inputs from the left AOA sensor which could have erroneous reading due to water, ice, debris. Ultimately the business like mentality and lack of engineers understanding the concept of backup within a backup is what led to these events.

  • @OutsideSomewheres
    @OutsideSomewheres 14 днів тому +4

    *me, pulling back up to this video after the death of a second whistleblower*

  • @TheKiwilover
    @TheKiwilover Місяць тому +385

    Boeing’s active decision to focus on profit over safety reminds me of the Ford Pinto situation. (They had an internal memo essentially saying it was cheaper to let the people die than to fix the cars.)

    • @manwiththeredface7821
      @manwiththeredface7821 Місяць тому +64

      Reminds me of a scene from Fight Club:
      " - A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
      - Which car company do you work for?
      - A major one."
      This dialogue was based on IRL practices at GM and Ford.

    • @mycelia_ow
      @mycelia_ow Місяць тому +21

      The saddest part is nobody really had accountability for that, the same will happen here with Boeing. We are the country of fines and wrist slaps for such colossal failures, not actual justice.

    • @zaco-km3su
      @zaco-km3su Місяць тому +1

      No wonder Ford lost so many customers. Sounds like you have to make it so that they will have to pay more.

    • @zaco-km3su
      @zaco-km3su Місяць тому

      @@mycelia_ow
      The fines should be far larger. In Boeing's case, there will be fewer sales. It will go bankrupt.

    • @gabepaez9938
      @gabepaez9938 Місяць тому +2

      After tests done on the Pinto during the lawsuit it was established that it was NOT the most dangerous car on the road and that the actual death count was WAY lower than the death count that was predicted by Ford. The story goes much deeper than what most people hear.

  • @robgable2426
    @robgable2426 Місяць тому +820

    Boeing absolutely murdered that guy. He even said he's not suicidal and if he winds up dead Boeing killed him.

    • @Big.Aziza_not.tha_lil_1
      @Big.Aziza_not.tha_lil_1 Місяць тому +1

      Crazy how I am stronger than the 3 kids as a girl 😘

    • @NigerianCrusader
      @NigerianCrusader Місяць тому

      But trump wouldn’t do that to anyone, would he? Biden certainly would however

    • @NigerianCrusader
      @NigerianCrusader Місяць тому +3

      @@Big.Aziza_not.tha_lil_1come on man, vote trump!

    • @NWRNo.17Misery
      @NWRNo.17Misery Місяць тому

      @@NigerianCrusaderthis is not the place to talk about your dumb politics

    • @purpleguy3924
      @purpleguy3924 Місяць тому

      @@NigerianCrusader u think the president of the united states dictates this? u think think the president isnt corrupt? if u genuinely dont think worse things happen and are happening u are delusional. its not a secret that the CIA is shady and that the president is a figurehead.

  • @Prof856
    @Prof856 Місяць тому +3

    As someone afraid of flying, it’s nice to hear other people mirror my experience. I have flown a lot. Every second is terrible for me.

  • @matthewrogersmusic
    @matthewrogersmusic Місяць тому +4

    I worked at a company that manufactured mostly non-safety-critical car parts (plastic parts). They were heavily trying to skew quality statistics to hide their errors and save money. I left because I didn’t want a part of that. I can’t imagine trying to falsify quality data and circumvent testing/qualifications in a safety-critical industry. Just plain evil.

  • @natebardwell
    @natebardwell Місяць тому +318

    Can we talk about how absolutely messed up it is that Boeing stock began recovering once the whistleblower died? Like, "whew, we can start buying again."

    • @bunkle932
      @bunkle932 Місяць тому +21

      WHEEL IN THE SKY KEEPS ON TURNIN

    • @knobgobler2639
      @knobgobler2639 Місяць тому +8

      Some pf it may be them buying their own stock. Disney does it.

    • @oldcowbb
      @oldcowbb Місяць тому +16

      stock market is the worst thing humanity ever invented

    • @Conker117
      @Conker117 Місяць тому +2

      @@oldcowbb how?

    • @EinfachFredhaftGaming
      @EinfachFredhaftGaming Місяць тому +10

      ​@@Conker117educate yourself. The list of negative impacts and death toll would be too long for yt comment section

  • @STdoubleDs
    @STdoubleDs Місяць тому +667

    My grandad was a ball turret gunner on a Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress during ww2. He and his crew were shot down 6 times over the course of the war. They named their final plane The Phantom because of how many times they went down only to come back. He was very proud of the Boeing name. If he was alive today I think he’d be very ashamed of what the company has become.

    • @Big.Aziza_not.tha_lil_1
      @Big.Aziza_not.tha_lil_1 Місяць тому +1

      Crazy how I am stronger than 3 kids as a girl 😘

    • @HaroldMarina2010
      @HaroldMarina2010 Місяць тому +91

      If that’s true then that’s fucking badass.
      Shot down 6 times and managing to make it back every time.

    • @MFFNL
      @MFFNL Місяць тому +40

      ​@@HaroldMarina2010Many of the Royal Airforce's Hurricanes were also famously resilient. Countless of them have been shred to pieces mid-air by gunfire, managed to land and make repairs, fly back to base, and be repaired to fly again. I'm fairly sure countless bomber-class high-altitude planes suffered similar fates :p

    • @luukrawks
      @luukrawks Місяць тому +2

      Your grandad was probably Zeb, or Kanan.

    • @PulsatingHyena
      @PulsatingHyena Місяць тому +7

      Your grandad is a fucking badass!

  • @tsqaured5709
    @tsqaured5709 Місяць тому +3

    You couldn't pay enough me to ride in a boeing after this.

    • @nman551
      @nman551 Місяць тому +1

      Yeah I’d rather swim to where I want to vacation at.

  • @arinbaun9452
    @arinbaun9452 Місяць тому +2

    ANOTHER BOEING 737 JUST STARTED FALLING APART DURING TAKEOFF IN DENVER TODAY ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!

    • @alequi1234
      @alequi1234 Місяць тому +1

      What a coincidence, saw it right now, the engine cover fell off during takeoff.

  • @LboyW
    @LboyW Місяць тому +341

    “If it aint airbus, I ain’t about to bust”
    -Wendigoon

    • @PringleAhh
      @PringleAhh Місяць тому +2

      *Chip*

    • @kalef1234
      @kalef1234 Місяць тому +3

      lo that doesn't even make grammatical sense.

    • @suicune3776
      @suicune3776 Місяць тому +2

      @@kalef1234 @PicklesOfTheRoundJar Stop duplicating your account to leave a nasty comment.

    • @hueyfreeman6262
      @hueyfreeman6262 Місяць тому +2

      Ohhhh god 😫

    • @PicklesOfTheRoundJar
      @PicklesOfTheRoundJar Місяць тому

      @@suicune3776 bruh I meant that at kalef1234

  • @invertedv12powerhouse77
    @invertedv12powerhouse77 Місяць тому +2

    15:37 im an aircraft tech, dish soap is often used to lubricate rubber seals. heck its actually an approved item, its just that by legal standpoint, it wasnt the specific brand recommended when it doesnt really matter.

    • @themosaicshow
      @themosaicshow Місяць тому +2

      that’s interesting! thank you for your input

  • @statesminds
    @statesminds Місяць тому +2

    As someone from SC near Charleston this is freaky

  • @MrChrisBurrows
    @MrChrisBurrows Місяць тому +114

    "it wasn't a suicide he consented too." holy fuck that was savage

    • @insoporous9978
      @insoporous9978 Місяць тому +9

      This was the highlight phrase of the video, what in the absolute fuck world are we living in?

  • @Proxy674
    @Proxy674 Місяць тому +667

    I doubt anyone even sees this, but I’m an MBA and actually recently wrote an academic research analysis on the Boeing and McDonnell Douglas merger. While it’s commonly stated that Boeing was more an engineering company while McDonnell Douglas was a profit-driven company, it’s worth noting that McDonnell Douglas wasn’t profiting.
    The reason they acquired Boeing with Boeing’s money (common joke) is that what they did have was extremely valuable- extensive access, both insider and without, to defense contracts that Boeing wanted. This has since driven Boeing’s business decisions for decades and has seen multiple high-level executives forced to step down due to using insider access to get military contracts they otherwise wouldn’t have had access to.
    If you look at the company now, they’ve essentially abandoned focus on consumer aviation and are hyper focused on defense production.

    • @theStamax
      @theStamax Місяць тому +40

      Thank you for sharing. Have you published the paper somewhere I could find it.

    • @kornoyu
      @kornoyu Місяць тому +22

      That was what I was thinking, as it sounded unusual that they would somehow be high enough in the company to just infect it from the inside out, considering they obviously were not profiting enough to be able to pull a maneuver like that when merging.

    • @xavierrhcp13
      @xavierrhcp13 Місяць тому +7

      Did you run into any rumors about them acquiring SAP's for back-engineering craft not of this world? 😅

    • @lapisliozuli4861
      @lapisliozuli4861 Місяць тому

      Even executives were being sacrificed for the data? What chance do us common folk have then

    • @dinaboop
      @dinaboop Місяць тому +12

      omg, tim, shhhhhh, you gonna get added to a hit list. Also, 400k people in past 4 hours have seen this.

  • @latinoguy562
    @latinoguy562 Місяць тому +7

    Flying on a Boeing should be considered flying ranked

    • @andrewpinedo1883
      @andrewpinedo1883 Місяць тому

      I flew on a Boeing the other day, a 737-MAX no less.

    • @TeenPerspektiva
      @TeenPerspektiva 3 години тому

      Youre crazy​@@andrewpinedo1883

  • @jennymason-sm1bk
    @jennymason-sm1bk Місяць тому +380

    Hi I just came across your channel a few days ago and as a 71 year old I immediately judged you on appearance and for this I apologise. You are a breath of fresh air and I love your quirky sense of humour. You've made this old lady laugh out loud quite a few times. Please keep entertaining us. Thank you

    • @The_Hydration_Police
      @The_Hydration_Police Місяць тому +24

      He’s a very cool guy, certainly has the most unique humour (mean this in a good way) I’ve ever heard too!

    • @bonefortune
      @bonefortune Місяць тому +43

      this is my favorite comment ive ever seen. have a good day

    • @jennymason-sm1bk
      @jennymason-sm1bk Місяць тому +34

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    • @user-vc2up9ys6v
      @user-vc2up9ys6v Місяць тому +5

      yeah, this channel is great

    • @Flint_Inferno
      @Flint_Inferno Місяць тому +3

      Charlie is a great man.

  • @coltonbaer5648
    @coltonbaer5648 Місяць тому +313

    It’s crazy being in school studying aviation management while all this is happening because all my professors who have so many connections to the industry keep ripping on boeing as an example for this

    • @StallionStudios1234
      @StallionStudios1234 Місяць тому +1

      That is interesting. I had a buddy that got a business degree in that 12 years ago. He is a flight planning manager for Westjet here in Canada. Being a supply chain/finance guy myself a lot of that stuff sounds interesting. I work in the energy industry on the power side.

    • @kumaye9446
      @kumaye9446 Місяць тому +7

      i just dont get it boeing has a networth of over 100 BILLION they are literally too big to fail and yet the though to putting pennies to the side toward things like safety and training was too much for them.

    • @saul4481
      @saul4481 Місяць тому +2

      @@kumaye9446too big to fail sounds like Roman talk

    • @diollinebranderson6553
      @diollinebranderson6553 Місяць тому

      ​@@kumaye9446 it's what happens when you have greedy rats shareholders and CEOs prioritising money over lives. The CEO himself is an accountant so that explains A LOT.
      They could just let engineers do their job and Boeing would still be a powerhouse but ironically in their quest to maximise profits it only brought down stocks.
      The sad part is the CEO got his sweet million dollars pay and "step down" from Boeing and other companies would be quick to hire him like he didn't just destroyed a billionaire company.
      So fcking stupid

    • @djinsh626
      @djinsh626 Місяць тому

      ​@@kumaye9446human greed knows no bounds

  • @tsokiyzan8724
    @tsokiyzan8724 8 днів тому +1

    pilot here: the second a plane starts doing something that I don't tell it to is the second I look for somewhere to land (in reference to the hidden MCAS system) sounds like a nightmare

  • @tastygravity4105
    @tastygravity4105 Місяць тому +2

    I work as a pilot and have flown 2 Boeing models; the 727 and the 777. The 727 was introduced in the 60s and is considered a classic jet, not many of them out there anymore. Most have been retired, but man that was built in Boeings golden days and it shows. It is an absolutely incredible plane. The 777 which I now fly is great overall and came out in the mid 90s when Boeing and McDonald Douglas merged. Seems like ever since then it’s been a race to the bottom.

  • @cynfaelalek-walker7003
    @cynfaelalek-walker7003 Місяць тому +221

    24:34 you don't need to get rid of all whistleblowers to make them go away, you just need to make an example of one of them, this was totally done by Boeing, they must be dismantled.

    • @GeorgeMonet
      @GeorgeMonet Місяць тому

      I wonder if you will get the same results from making an example of corrupt politicians and c level executives.

    • @lambda6736
      @lambda6736 Місяць тому +1

      This.

    • @Axew325Ryan
      @Axew325Ryan Місяць тому +1

      ^

    • @psilobom
      @psilobom Місяць тому +10

      They'll never be dismantled, they're part of the Military Industrial Complex

    • @SoulkeepGaming
      @SoulkeepGaming Місяць тому +1

      @@psilobom It's just bailout simulator at this point...

  • @Player-pj9kt
    @Player-pj9kt Місяць тому +319

    I worked at an aircraft maintenance company. Basically they received aircraft engines and APUs, took them apart, fixed whatever was wrong with them, and sent it back to the customer to be reinstalled. They took a lot of safety precautions. Most notably, during training they had a 30 min talk on FOD (foreign object and debris) and the steps to mitigate FOD from entering into aircraft parts. A lot of my coworkers there took it seriously too. One time I left a notebook and pen on one of the workbenches with the intention of coming back to it after I've done my task. When I came back to pick it up, a coworker yelled at me for being careless and leaving FOD on the shopfloor unsupervised. Most aircraft companies are very strict about this.
    Boeing however doesn't care about this. I once heard a story of Boeing leaving an entire step ladder in their plane's fuselage and I think it made it past the quality inspection

    • @pick6and129
      @pick6and129 Місяць тому

      thats not fod your clown.

    • @blu5021
      @blu5021 Місяць тому +10

      The ladder story is true i think, i’ve seen some stories about that as well

    • @bogosbingted
      @bogosbingted 15 днів тому

      scary asf

  • @OldCemeteryWalks
    @OldCemeteryWalks Місяць тому +13

    The fact that gamers talking about serious topics which our "media" refuses to discuss tells us everything we need to know about the media.

  • @sergeantjoe6802
    @sergeantjoe6802 Місяць тому +1

    Any managers who HATED emails or things in writing are deceptive.

  • @TSMSnation
    @TSMSnation Місяць тому +261

    Its truly fed up how, OBVIOUS this is. The literal boogieman holding the bloody knife saying "no he did it."
    And theres just... Nothing can be done. To big to fail.

    • @LordSiravant
      @LordSiravant Місяць тому +16

      Money is power. Those who have all the money have all the power.

    • @ExtraVictory
      @ExtraVictory Місяць тому +9

      Will this be the moment folks finally realize how unfair life is? Of course not, the just world continues to charge forth in all its fallaciousness

    • @darkpulsegirl2654
      @darkpulsegirl2654 Місяць тому +17

      @@ExtraVictory to be fair, I think most people these days know how crappy and unfair our situation is (as a whole-ass species, more or less) it's just that us common folk don't have the power to change it and the people with power have a vested interest in keeping things the way they are...

    • @ExtraVictory
      @ExtraVictory Місяць тому

      @@darkpulsegirl2654 its true that people are more aware now but not aware enough. You don't need to be a 120 billion dollar megacorp to get away with murder. My parents could probably do so and they're just regular rich people (professional landlords)
      Of course im not trying to be ungrateful or anything im grateful every day but from this vantage point it couldn't be more clear how immensely stacked the deck is

    • @TwinFather0420
      @TwinFather0420 Місяць тому

      @@darkpulsegirl2654this exactly! Sure, people like us can’t stand that people are basically OPENLY assassinated and no one seems to care, but I’m a nobody with a wife and twins. NOBODY cares what I say.

  • @Kuromii_x
    @Kuromii_x Місяць тому +272

    my cousin is an air hostess apparently everyone who gets a boeing on their shift tries to switch and give it away because they're scared of flying, especially the one they have at theirs being faulty and always having problems. yet they don't tell the passengers!! she said it's actually scary how many problems they encounter and you wouldn't even know. oh they also forced them sign an NDA before they fly and if they didn't sign they'd lose their job

    • @Pearlsrat
      @Pearlsrat Місяць тому +3

      I don’t truly believe this other than the NDA part.

    • @bandit3019
      @bandit3019 Місяць тому +19

      @@Pearlsratyou don’t believe that people are scared of flying on Boeings…?

    • @Pearlsrat
      @Pearlsrat Місяць тому

      @@bandit3019 not flight attendants lol

    • @Mallagen
      @Mallagen Місяць тому

      @@Pearlsrat so you think flight attendants aren't afraid of flying in planes with higher chance of crashing? Are you stupid

    • @Jiub_SN
      @Jiub_SN Місяць тому +13

      @@Pearlsratthey are, my friend is a FA and told me the same story, every flight I've been on in one I've noticed odd things (fly a lot for my job), may be confirmation bias but I believe it

  • @zentek5989
    @zentek5989 16 днів тому +2

    I’m a computer engineering student at Wisconsin right now. Every engineer is required to take an engineering ethics class as part of a graduation requirement. That class has an entire unit focused on how the Boeing merger destroyed Boeing and why they’re falling apart. It is mostly because of military contracted deadlines. Demanding things be done in a fraction of the time they need. This video covers it fairly well. It’s very interesting and sad stuff.

  • @wjrg7180
    @wjrg7180 Місяць тому +1

    I remember reading some years back that buses were the safest travel form statistically.
    Use that Greyhound, man!

    • @carpinado3089
      @carpinado3089 Місяць тому

      What do you mean statistically? If you want to calculate the rate of survival based on a ratio of deaths:passengers then flying is something like 38x safer than your greyhound bus

  • @sf1203
    @sf1203 Місяць тому +191

    "When they drop the airmasks they also drop an Allen wrench." Comedy gold.

  • @jollyd.joestar3937
    @jollyd.joestar3937 Місяць тому +130

    The Boeing Mafia is terrifying

  • @mo1st_codered114
    @mo1st_codered114 21 день тому +1

    If you think about it , Stone cipher just means hardly hidden

  • @daedalron
    @daedalron Місяць тому +1

    7:30 To be clear, the MCAS system didn't just cause those 2 planes to dive and crash. It did cause a few other planes to dive too, but the pilots on those were able to recover and not crash.
    Including one incident the day before of one of the crash IIRC.

  • @aiden3627
    @aiden3627 Місяць тому +146

    I’ve met the guy who blew the whistle on big tobacco several times. My guy had to literally run from hitmen and be put into witness protection with his entire family, while staying 100% silent, hiding the documents even from authorities while the FBI built their case and got the lost solid foundation for the trial thst they could, he had to be the very last piece to the case and in the meantime he literally had people that he had to physically run from. This man was a researcher for big tobacco who was one on a team of two or three people who discovered that nicotine is deadly, the tobacco execs told him to keep that quiet after they made him invent nicotine free cigarettes and found out they weren’t addictive.
    This man probably did not kill himself.

    • @Kain1805
      @Kain1805 Місяць тому +10

      The FBI tried to help him? I like that

    • @predatxr7624
      @predatxr7624 24 дні тому +9

      @@Kain1805 rare FBI W lol

    • @KWO39Chi
      @KWO39Chi 16 днів тому +2

      Jeffrey Weigand. That’s the whistleblower’s name for big tobacco

  • @harrisonmccartney4878
    @harrisonmccartney4878 Місяць тому +709

    Friendly reminder Thomas Pynchon once worked for Boeing's technical division in the early 1960's and has almost never been photographed or seen in public since he quit. He once went so far as to jump out of a bathroom window when journalists arrived at his location in Mexico after his first novel, V., was published and then rode a bus almost 1000km into the mountains just to avoid being photographed.

    • @matthewhorrigan5848
      @matthewhorrigan5848 Місяць тому +144

      His novels contain some scathing indictments of the military industrial complex - he knows what he's up against.

    • @CL-fg5ne
      @CL-fg5ne Місяць тому +2

      Could you explain why he was trying to avoid being photographed? I don't get it

    • @shelby6
      @shelby6 Місяць тому +80

      @CL-fg5ne changing his appearance and going into hiding, having proof of what he looks like and his changes and tracking him puts him in danger

    • @Satarnoch
      @Satarnoch Місяць тому

      ​@@CL-fg5ne maybe not having his current looks known and therefore more easily targeted with non-consentual suicide

    • @beebs4283
      @beebs4283 Місяць тому +65

      @@CL-fg5nehe didn’t want to be tracked and murdered for speaking out