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  • @christossymA3A2
    @christossymA3A2 Рік тому +124

    D&D be like " The potential of this Roose Bolton guy is lit , anyway let's have him killed like an amateur by Ramsey who will also be killed a few episodes down the road"

  • @dookieshoe2905
    @dookieshoe2905 Рік тому +55

    I like the idea that the ancient enmity between Bolton and Stark goes back to the Starks keeping the skinchanger abities from the Boltons which led them to literally wearing the skins of others.

    • @CompanyOfTheCat
      @CompanyOfTheCat  Рік тому +21

      if the stories we have are true, ancient Starks were treating abilities like pokemon. Gotta catch them all.

  • @theduxabides9274
    @theduxabides9274 Рік тому +54

    6:06 Also consider the parallels between Weirwoods and so-called "Ghost Grass" in Essos, which choke out the life of other plants that grow near them.
    I'd also add in that Shade of the Evening is supposed to be an Essosi parallel to Weirwoods, so the connection between Roose and the House of the Undying sorcerers has some merit. Let's also not forget that Ramsay was conceived through rape by Roose, while beneath the hanged body of the woman's husband... HANGING from a tree. Calls to mind the ancient practice of human sacrifice before the eyes of a weirwood, just as Roose was helping himself to another ancient practice, the First Night

    • @alexandergangaware429
      @alexandergangaware429 Рік тому +12

      Hanging from a tree also brings up Odin & Yggdrasil. And that brings up the Ironborn myth of Ygg the Demon Tree, which is an obvious weirwood. Ramsay might have been conceived beneath a weirwood, which might mean something

    • @jduke6793
      @jduke6793 Рік тому +1

      What's funny about Ramsay is he might not be Roose's son. Due to how the colour of Roose's would be passed down, Ramsey would have a different eye colour. I think this is theory parallels with Theon, who killed those two boys at winter and they may have been his, and now Roose has been raising a kid who is not his.

  • @TheCbot88
    @TheCbot88 Рік тому +14

    I really wanna see the Dreadfort Godswood. It's gotta be nuts.

  • @BrandonRiott
    @BrandonRiott Рік тому +23

    I think its actually more interesting to think that there's nothing supernatural about Roose...he's a mortal human who's just creepy, sadistic and weird...thats more disturbing..

    • @Lagermination
      @Lagermination 6 місяців тому +3

      Yeah, a lot of characters in power in the books are sadists, cruel and will do anything to keep their lands, titles and so on, so I don't think it dismisses all the subtle hints about roose, for exemple, no one theorize anything supernatural about tywin or even Ramsay, but somethings are off with Roose, and ASOIAF is a fantasy series, not a fictional drama setting in an historical feudal society

    • @adamantiiispencespence4012
      @adamantiiispencespence4012 2 місяці тому

      No it's not. That would be lame, boring and nonsensical.

  • @jonhauge-evaldsson783
    @jonhauge-evaldsson783 Рік тому +26

    Beautiful! Best Bolton theory I have heard! Good job!

  • @Woodywyrd
    @Woodywyrd Рік тому +6

    the ways you deconstruct bolt-on is fascinating like at 16:04 when suggesting that roose wants to remove ramsay's emotions to make him a more easy skinchanging vessel- then if roose's leeches are at least somewhat genuinely used to remove his emotions and not solely because of poor circulation from weirwood sap. the next conclusion is that this is continuous process. and the man whose 'skin a beast is wearing' has to be constantly subjugated. eek!

  • @alazysparrow
    @alazysparrow Рік тому +13

    Weirwoods are red and white, the source of shade of the evening are blue and black. There’s a perfect opposition that’s like ice and fire

    • @pyramidion5911
      @pyramidion5911 Рік тому +1

      Probably the same species just showing different expressions due to some environmental stressor 😉

  • @vincenthickey8622
    @vincenthickey8622 Рік тому +10

    I love this explanation of the Bolton clan. How can you fight off the power of the Starks without serious magic power yourself. And live in the north too. Not an arrival in another kingdom like the vale across the border. But in the heartland of their power.
    Maybe their ultimate goal is wearing the skins of a Stark.

    • @trout440a
      @trout440a Рік тому

      You made me think of something. What if when the Boltons and Winterfell fall, Roose is nowhere to be found, and then Benjen returns suddenly shortly after, unable to explain where he went? Bolt-On Benjen. A brother may inherit before a bastard, and to Roose's knowledge all the other Stark men are dead. What if this is his way of ruling the north via deception?

    • @someangel-shape6797
      @someangel-shape6797 8 місяців тому +1

      @@trout440a Benjen is lost beyond the wall how would he just end up at Winterfell?

    • @arronjerden915
      @arronjerden915 День тому

      @@someangel-shape6797 trout is saying that somehow Roose has Benjen's skin.

  • @brittanybarker95
    @brittanybarker95 Рік тому +13

    You have amazing theories and really bring something new to the table with your videos. I really hope you keep going with them I love hearing what you have to say.

  • @aliasfakename3159
    @aliasfakename3159 Рік тому +6

    The North values strength and size so the fact that a small, whisper-voiced man rules a major house and *no one tries to take his land or intimidate him* screams he's hiding something. Yeah, his family is known for flaying but before you can flay somebody, you gotta overpower them. Stereotypically, vampires are portrayed as willowy but with superhuman strength whereas werewolves are visibly muscled and bulky. But vampires aren't weird enough for George. Roose could be a more obscure supernatural creature.

    • @CompanyOfTheCat
      @CompanyOfTheCat  Рік тому +5

      Roose is such a wtf moment, the whole house actually. Weird, creepy, mofos.

  • @jessesturgeon5327
    @jessesturgeon5327 Рік тому +11

    This is a great channel keep up the good work

  • @FeyFire
    @FeyFire Рік тому +15

    Wow this is great! It's always seemed the Bolton's were trying to replace the Starks, but they're literally trying to REPLACE the Starks! Lol. I wonder if Roose believes he can become Bloodraven if he just fully replaces all his blood with weirwood paste? Also if they skin changed/FM a Stark with certain information... Wasn't it Roose who brought Ned's bones back north? 🤔

    • @CompanyOfTheCat
      @CompanyOfTheCat  Рік тому +7

      I don't think their goal is to replace anyone or become a greenseer, tbh. I think they just want immortality and power, pretty much what Euron and the Undying want, and not only. Roose sure was the one that brought the bones back, did we know if he got only bones or he got a full corpse (as full as it can be because the head was rotting on the spike for days.)? 🤔

    • @HisameArtwork
      @HisameArtwork Рік тому +6

      in the books I don't think his bones ever reach back home. lady dustin has a bone to pick with Ned and she gets her hands on him...now she is Roose's minion so maybe ned's bones end up with roose.

    • @CompanyOfTheCat
      @CompanyOfTheCat  Рік тому +2

      I am not even sure if there was a full skeleton or body to pick, tbh.

  • @BeteBlanc
    @BeteBlanc Рік тому +2

    This actually makes a great deal of sense. And it answers a couple questions I've been wrestling with. I've been looking for a Weirwood version of Shade but I hadn't considered his. His book version might not actually be the same as the real world.
    Some interesting things to think about now. Thank you.

  • @oldnewdude9095
    @oldnewdude9095 Рік тому +4

    The skinchanging abilities don't transfer with the jump to a new body. If the body already has skinchanging abilities then you would be able to keep that power. If you dominate and prepare the body for you could you be the dominant mind and not lose yourself. Holdor has given up his body to Bran and sets in the corner of his mind waiting for Bran to leave. Could there be a way for body jumping through the ages as long as you picked the right body? The 3 eyed crow shows thousands of failed attempts to find someone with the ability to fly. Could this be a search for a suitable body? Not sure where I'm going with this. Loved the video

  • @randominternetguyoffical
    @randominternetguyoffical Рік тому +29

    "His taste in drinks is the same as my taste in men" XD
    Love that line.
    This is the most interesting and most sensible Roose theory I've heard so far.
    Kinda a side note but did you read "The Skin Trade" by GRRM? It's been a long time since I read it but I thought there were some warg/Bolton parallels in that book.

    • @CompanyOfTheCat
      @CompanyOfTheCat  Рік тому +8

      I think from skin trade came the whole Bolt-on theory, and it is a similar pattern with the whole practice the FM are doing. I took some inspo from there, but I don't think that the concept is as close as we think, bc it is kinda off with the worldbuilding I think.

    • @randominternetguyoffical
      @randominternetguyoffical Рік тому +6

      @@CompanyOfTheCat That's interesting I had no idea that the bolt on came from the skin trade 0_0
      I'm just starting to relisten to it right now because I was curious.

    • @CompanyOfTheCat
      @CompanyOfTheCat  Рік тому +5

      If I am not mistaken, it was heavily inspired by it.

    • @randominternetguyoffical
      @randominternetguyoffical Рік тому +4

      @@CompanyOfTheCat My memory of it was that the whole Bolton wearing Stark skin thing was definitely directly from the skin trade but it's been a long time so I can't remember shit about the book 😂
      I'm only like 40 minutes in right now so it's gonna be a little min or two until I get to the good stuff lol

  • @Mj_Jetson
    @Mj_Jetson Рік тому +7

    i wonder if euron and roose will be paralleled in winds, to drive home the shade-of-the-evening to weirwood-blood parallel? i guess grrm won't be killing roose off anytime soon? (or maybe he will, and he'll keep ramsay around as the new roose...)

    • @CompanyOfTheCat
      @CompanyOfTheCat  Рік тому +6

      Roose and Euron in the same place sound terrifying.

  • @Bluemilk92
    @Bluemilk92 Рік тому +3

    I always appreciate original ideas. Good job!

  • @moomoomoo001
    @moomoomoo001 6 місяців тому

    I love the 'Ramsay had the right eyes for Roose to skinchange into" theory!

  • @gerrys374
    @gerrys374 Рік тому +2

    one of the best theories I have heard about the Boltons, plus double great bc of the taylor swift reference

  • @FrenulemEnjoyer
    @FrenulemEnjoyer Рік тому +2

    Great video man keep up the good work!

  • @void.sawyer
    @void.sawyer Рік тому

    Youre videos keep my mind occupied at work. Thank you

  • @badgoosegin
    @badgoosegin Рік тому +2

    Love ur videos keep it up!

  • @victariondrownedmemory9886
    @victariondrownedmemory9886 Рік тому +1

    I enjoy your accent, i liked this theory very much, its similar to mine on Roose. Any theories on his first son? we're led to believe ramsay poisoned him, i have a theory that the first son became cold hands. its quite the theory ill make a vid on it eventually

    • @CompanyOfTheCat
      @CompanyOfTheCat  Рік тому +1

      Awu thank! I am not sure about the Cold Hands thind mostly because we know Coldhands lived many years ago. Personally I think that he indeed Ramsey killed him, idk, we have very few info about him, and Roose was talking like indeed Ramsey killed him.

  • @wolfsbanealphas617
    @wolfsbanealphas617 Рік тому +6

    So he’s a cannibale not a vampire

  • @chadbailey3623
    @chadbailey3623 Рік тому +1

    I like the sap drinking idea, but the jumping between bodies seems to be a jump in logic. Thanks though! You made me think!

    • @CompanyOfTheCat
      @CompanyOfTheCat  Рік тому +2

      Glad you liked it. In my mind since Varamyr tried to jump to another body in the prologue I don't find it that illogical tbh.

  • @dalejennings2677
    @dalejennings2677 Рік тому +3

    He offers wine or water to others but not hyporcras..

  • @faisalkamal4319
    @faisalkamal4319 Рік тому +6

    Boltons are wierd
    Water is wet

  • @GabrielPintoMusic
    @GabrielPintoMusic Рік тому +2

    I think Roose may have tried various peculiar (magical or maester) things because he himself is a peculiar, and dark character. It's entirely possible that Roose is actually a pure psychopath and master manipulator. I think Lord Manderly will get his vengeance in the end during The Battle In The Snow.
    House Bolton (to our knowledge) has been reduced to just Roose and Ramsay. (Aside from Fat Lady Walda Frey - Bolton) If Roose were to father any more children, he'd ditch Ramsay as soon as he could, so as not to have a legitimized bastard inherit anything. Roose does not care at all about Ramsay.

    • @CompanyOfTheCat
      @CompanyOfTheCat  Рік тому +2

      Oh, he doesn't care and is also very much annoyed that he has to keep him. At least as annoyed as Roose can get. The thing is as far as he doesn't have an heir he seems determined to remove all the emotions from Ramsey, this is his main issue, the amount he says that his blood is tainted and he needs leeches is quite a lot. And obviously, he doesn't care about his hobbies either, he said as long as you do it privately idc what you do. The fact that he is doing it bc it's exciting and gets him riled up annoys him, not that the stuff is atrocious.

  • @erlkoenig505
    @erlkoenig505 7 місяців тому +1

    I'm new to your channel, and I'm curious: You mentioned that you're working in a lab. Which kind of lab is it? Do you happen to be a molecular biologist as well?

    • @CompanyOfTheCat
      @CompanyOfTheCat  7 місяців тому +3

      Material engineer. The lab is a synthetic chemistry one where we work with nanoporous and nanolayered materials (activated carbons, graphitic materials, materials for catalysts and hydrogen storage, etc.)

    • @erlkoenig505
      @erlkoenig505 7 місяців тому +1

      @@CompanyOfTheCat Also interesting! But I will stick with molecular biology! :)

  • @90745piper
    @90745piper 9 місяців тому

    Outstanding 👍👍 I imagine my disappointment if tis turns out to be another teenage angst vampire story. Great insight and understanding of the work

  • @barrone71
    @barrone71 Рік тому

    Great video!

  • @tonyantony6110
    @tonyantony6110 Рік тому +3

    The bear, the bear...

  • @clintonclay3158
    @clintonclay3158 Рік тому +1

    "He eats little" but hes always drinking wine, he smells weird. Hes dieting, hes drinking alcohol as a diuretic. Hes dieting like those monks in Asia that mummify themselves. To what end hes dieting I do not know but the description of Ramsey is a clue that roose would be pudgy like him if not for the diuretics and calorie deficit.

  • @tomfoolery5680
    @tomfoolery5680 Рік тому +1

    Kind of a reach here, but do you find Roose's name to have any significance? From Roosevelt meaning "Rose Field". The surname Roosevelt was incolved with the House of Orange. Maybe their involvement in the War of the Roses could yield a clue. Im looking it up now.

    • @CompanyOfTheCat
      @CompanyOfTheCat  Рік тому +1

      I haven't thought about his name at all not gonna lie.

  • @peacekeeper1413
    @peacekeeper1413 9 місяців тому

    Leech’s also thins the blood so maybe it makes his blood circulation a little better too? Maybe

  • @devinblois
    @devinblois Рік тому +1

    I bet George watches these videos to get inspiration to finish winds

    • @CompanyOfTheCat
      @CompanyOfTheCat  Рік тому +2

      I hope not, we will never have a book if he is also checking out fan theories 😂
      Even though I think he has said that he isn't checking them out if I'm not mistaken.

  • @Pentagathusosaurus
    @Pentagathusosaurus 8 місяців тому

    If Roose is planning to skin change into Ramsay then another reason to want his emotions to die is that he'd end up sharing the body with Ramsay and he doesn't want to be an angry lil sausage sack (and also so that it looks less suspicious when Ramsay suddenly has a total personality change I guess)

  • @SkiTiNo
    @SkiTiNo Рік тому +1

    Great video, amazing content as always!
    Just.... Ramsey is not roose son :/

  • @oldnewdude9095
    @oldnewdude9095 Рік тому

    Love this theory, great video

  • @YvetteArby
    @YvetteArby Рік тому +1

    A sweet smell coming from someone can be from being in ketosis or having diabetes. I have smelled that on people who were dying. 😢

    • @CompanyOfTheCat
      @CompanyOfTheCat  Рік тому

      Yeap and dead bodies tend to give off a very distinctive, sickly-sweet odor, in general. Anatomy labs smell mostly formalin, but they have a very bad underlying sweet smell too.

  • @dalejennings2677
    @dalejennings2677 Рік тому

    Off topic. Bran wargs into zombie jon to become the nights king. Just a thought on the future of the series.

  • @CancerMage
    @CancerMage 7 днів тому

    Here's a neat wrinkle: what if Roose's eye colour is a result of ocular albinism? There's lots of pictures you can google, and the grey eyes look exactly like Roose's are described.
    Here's the rub though; while there are 2 main forms of ocular albinism, both are carried on the X chromosome. If Roose has a trueborn son then he must have contributed a Y chromosome, and couldn't be the genetic reason for Ramsey's eye colour. The only way he could have is if Ramsey were XXY, which is also extremely uncommon.

  • @umwha
    @umwha 9 місяців тому

    It just occurred to me that 'Roose' is just the word 'Rose' with another o. Rose, alluding to redness?

  • @n.v.9000
    @n.v.9000 9 місяців тому

    Three eyed raven is preparing Bran's body and mind for take over... that is why in the show Bran is telling to everyone he isnt Bran anymore... Three eyed raven is in command of the Others and wants his kingdom back and waiting for a Long Night. Long Night is a cosmic event like a twin planet passing by every few thousands years. He knows its coming by meteors that follow the twin planet.

    • @n.v.9000
      @n.v.9000 9 місяців тому

      We know that myths are twisted by time in Martins own words. The Childern of the Forest and Greenseers lost and were banished North. The Others are probably connected to the twin planet by magic when they were crated and can only the used during the Long Night when the cold hits as Sun is eclipsed by the twin. We also know Martin told producers that Bran will be king and that he will no longer be Bran. I think that collective memories and hatred gathered in Wienwoods from all Greenseers is in Three eyed raven and he is trying to get back his ancesters land. As in the show he will lie that he is the target of the Others to get trust of humans and will sacrifice The Others soo humans would unite under him. That is why Bran also said in the show -" Why do you think I came all this way."

  • @umwha
    @umwha 9 місяців тому

    SO, the pale eyes show that conscoiusness can be passed into them. Okay. It is like body snatching, or just 'shadow on the soul'? You'd think that Roose would be making more bastards, since if Ramsay dies, so does his chance to continue the chain of immortality. But how does this relate to skins? Presumably the original body just dies. Wwheres the skin magic. Also what is drinking weirwood juice for?

  • @alpheuswoodley8435
    @alpheuswoodley8435 3 місяці тому

    I thought maybe he was giving his blood filled leeches to the trees.

    • @CompanyOfTheCat
      @CompanyOfTheCat  3 місяці тому

      I don't know why, but giving leeches as a sacrifice to the trees paints a hilarious image😂

  • @chables74
    @chables74 Рік тому

    Algormancy!

  • @alexanderfridayeagle9146
    @alexanderfridayeagle9146 Рік тому

    Το κατάλαβα από την προφορά, σαν την δική μου, ότι είσαι ελληνόφωνη!

  • @mattfox2716
    @mattfox2716 3 місяці тому

    6:24

  • @NANINANI-cs6rn
    @NANINANI-cs6rn Рік тому +2

    I like this theory but I think if the weirwood sap have some long living power I think the starks and the blackwood would be more likely to drink it, I think the theory of roose bolton being the son of the night king and his queen are most likely, because the night king rule his brothers for a 13 years and so much unlikely that he had no children during that time, and the only one that fit is roose bolton with emotionless and immortality and his pale eyes who's been described as ice
    Anyway, I like your theories and I hope you do some theory about Jaime

    • @CompanyOfTheCat
      @CompanyOfTheCat  Рік тому +1

      Thanks, happy you are enjoying the content.
      Tbh, I really don't vibe with theories that people stay alive for thousands of years. It's one thing to be alive for 400-500 years while heavily relying on magic, like Mel, but almost 5000 years? I doubt it. Also, I am of the belief that the ice queen was a priestess, Ice Melisandre of some sort not an Other.

    • @NANINANI-cs6rn
      @NANINANI-cs6rn Рік тому +1

      @@CompanyOfTheCat yes I do enjoy your content
      Yeah it make sense, even george said that night king is just a legend figure like land the clever and Brandon the builder and he's not immortal, but I still think that he has some kind of ancestors,

  • @Mustafa1998
    @Mustafa1998 Рік тому

    malakes

  • @d_ruggs
    @d_ruggs 6 місяців тому

    You like red men?
    Like, they have skin irritation?

  • @saminator3563
    @saminator3563 Рік тому +1

    taste in men haahhhaha

  • @strevos100
    @strevos100 Рік тому

    Δικια μας εισαι εσυ

    • @CompanyOfTheCat
      @CompanyOfTheCat  Рік тому

      ναι αλλα μη το πεις παραεξω και μας ακουσουν