Mischievous Happenings in the Music World | Chitravina Ravikiran, Prof G Desiraju, Dr Ranjani Vasuki
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- Notwithstanding the mischiefs of the Madras Music Academy in terms of sidelining top class musicians from the neighbouring states, the recent one announcing the Sangita Kalanidhi to TM Krishna has revealed a new nadir. This has led to some bold decisions by stalwarts like Sri Chitraveena Ravikiran (Twiiter: @ravikiranmusic) returning the Sangita Kalanidhi back to the Academy. T M Krishna is a symptom of a larger malaise.
In this brief chat we get his personal perspectives along with the viewpoints of Dr. Ranjani Vasuki, another performing vocalist of high repute, Prof. Desiraju (@gautamdesiraju) a connoisseur of classical music who himself denied accepting the Bhatnagar Award some 30 years back. We also talk about the issues that are currently experienced in the art arena.
The panel is moderated by Prof V Ramanathan (Twitter: @vraman16), a Rasika himself, who has critiqued the first book written by T. M. Krishna.
Chitraveena Ravikiran @ravikiranmusic who returned his Sangita Kalanidhi award to the Madras Music Academy with this statement: "I’ve taken this step after careful consideration as principles much larger than all of us are at stake. However I’ll always remain deeply grateful to the org for its role in my career from childhood."
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11:44 TM Krishna - just propagandist
12:06 Music is part of Sanathana Dharma
13:23 TMK’s politics in the garb of activism
14:10 nip it in the bud
15:57 Indian Classical music is rooted in sanatana dharma
16:05 Five faces , five notes
16:32 Cannot divide Indian classical music from its cultural and Sanatana Dharma context
17:06 Bhairavi, Todi, Mohana /Bhupala
18:05 Why did the Madras Music Academy decide the award so soon ( Feb/Mar) this year?
31:50 Caste in music?
36:05 Tyagaraja Swami and Ananda Bhairavi Raga
41:01 Artists from other states were ignored
43:07 what is the way forward?
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Opening shloka recited by Prof Ramanathan :
nāda-tanum aniśam śaṅkaraṁ namāmi me manasā śirasā
modakara-nigamottama-sāmaveda-sāram vāram vāram
sadyojātādi-pañcavaktraja-sarigamapadhani-vara-sapta-svara-
-vidyā-lolaṁ vidalita-kālaṁ vimala-hṛdaya-tyāgarāja-pālam
Closing shloka recited by Prof Ramanathan:
गुणैरुत्तुङ्गतायाति नोत्तुङ्गेनासनेन वै
प्रासादशिखरस्थोऽपि काको न गरुडायते
Guṇairuttungatāyāti nottungenāsanena vai
Prāsādaśikharastopi kāko na garuḍāyate
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Mischievous Happenings in the Music World | Chitravina Ravikiran, Prof G Desiraju, Dr Ranjani Vasuki, Prof V Ramanathan
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The question should be why a politician is invited to inaugurate an event in music academy?
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Good talk
Great participants
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They have successfully diverted public attention from drug trafficking in this state with the blessings of DMK ministers. We have fallen for this issue forgetting the main danger hanging over our head.
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Nice discussion on mischievous happenings in music academy
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The best way for the sincere musicians and fans is to silently boycot the Music Academy thereby very smoothly assiating in its selfdriven course towards oblivion.Engaging in arguments will open the doors to the mischievous to rule the roost under pseudo- secularist blabberings.
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Thanks for an excellent and substantive discussion on the murky undertones of the current churn in the Carnatic music community of artists ( practitioners) and rasikas. Dr Desiraju rightly questions the implication of the unusually early announcement of the Sangeeta Kalanidhi award this year, to coincide with the national elections, as well as the presence of Mr. Stalin, a politician, at a Music Academy function last year. His candid point about an artist serving as a "useful idiot" is right on target. One also wonders if there is a leftist/woke nexus between the The Hindu ( and its pro DMK posture) and the current leadership of Music Academy. The goal of attacking sanatana dharma through classical music is quite apparent.
Ms. Ranjani Vasuki pertinently questions whether social activism has become the "new norm" for recognition to musicians. She also rightly points out that new students of music are never questioned about their community but only on whether they can keep their focus on the practice.
Mr. Ravikiran spoke about the very important concern of misleading young musicians into the woke agenda of social activism and its damaging effect on the real focus on music. It was also very interesting to know of his own work in taking music to the rural areas and the practical issues, including the number of years that it takes to identify and hone such talent. He rightly questions the value of those who merely talk of taking Carnatic music to a wider society, and those who have actively worked towards it.
So why was just one artist like TM Krishna 'recognized' for his views ( vs. real work) in this regard? In another program, the Trichur Brothers also wondered why they are not given a free column in The Hindu ( just like TM Krishna is). In other words, there is an eco system that is trying to cause insidious divisions within the Carnatic music community.
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The timing of announcement says a lot !!
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Thank you very much for the thought provoking discussion and very important questions raised by Prof. Desiraju on the role of Tukde Tukde gang in destroying Sanatana Dharma...
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TMK being the slender brother of DMK it is not surprising that he slanders SANATANA DHARMA
It is heartening to see the response and rebuttal from those who respect traditions
A wonderful and much needed discussion indeed 🎉 Very enlightening conversation between stalwarts in music like Ravikiranji along with a scientist Prof. Gowtham...!
As the experts point out, Clearly, the music academy's stand in this issue seems very vague...
The press article by academy describing the award's reason says, "... using carnatic music as a tool for social reforms..."
But their impolite reply to RaGa sisters states the reason as, "... Only excellence in music"!
Surprising for an organisation of the stature of music academy!
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I fully agree with the dr that there is underlying reason for the tm Krishna attitude, iam glad that we are raising our voice
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There is an inherent issue of conflict of interest: The family of the founder awarding its own family member the award.
The award has been earlier denied to controversial musicians but has been pushed under the carpet this time.
Academy unmasks its Hypocrisy for all to see.
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Perfect. Critical mass is imperative to voice our concerns in a manner that will be impactful
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It is a known fact that some of the musicians have been denied/debarred from performing at Music Academy based on the report of their activities besides their talents in the music field.Why such parameters have not been followed in awarding Kalanidhi award.
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All self respected proud Hindu Musicians and Rasikas should Boycott MMA till they reverse their decision.
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I support only TMK.... TMK..TMK...
If all the musicians boycott music academy then it will be eye opener to the administrators of the academy.
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Dr Desiraju is grandson of Former Hon President Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan..world renowned crystallographer..what a source of knowledge
I didn't know that. World authority in crystallography
I didn't know that at all..Such erudition and humility
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The best way to tackle this issue or development, all artists from carnatic fraternity should boycott Music Academy till they set their home right.After all there are hundreds of sabhas doing their job fairly well.
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Please note that these musicians have no unity among themselves, like the Hindus. They bitch about others behind their backs and their egos are insatiable. Under this what do you expect. Some of the senior musicians have a stranglehold on Sabha Secretaries and they use their power, though, this has diminished in the past decade to a great extent. If they were a united lot things could have been better. It's time they started thinking about fellow musicians, too and the coming generation.
These musicians are like items that goes on auctions
The President should resign and a new selection committee consisting of senior eminent musicians and rasikas as members should be entrusted with the task of carrying on the Academy's music promotional activities.
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Thank you to all esteemed participants for having the courage to raise their voices and putting forward logical points.
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V well spoken by Dr Ranjani and Prof 👏🏼👏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
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The pahelists have nailed the issue! Especially ravikiran ji . Your silent contributions sre phenominal. I hope TMK warches this and understands thar he should talk less and wotk more. That way his present state of confused ideology will preciputate into clearer ones and there eill be a real output rather than utopian ones
TMK is more intelligent than you and me combined. He has been asked to do this and is just an instrument
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Hearty Congrats To the Brave Fighters.
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The devious way points towards the external pressure, unfortunately we individually cannot come out under the present climate . Dangerously political. Let us jointly voice our concern and pray for wisdom to evolve. No doubt it hurts to the core.
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Intersting info about bhanargal
Is it why in ancient tamizh ragam was called pann??
Also whos is playing yaazh யாழ் nowadays??
Secretary himself say he don't respect Thyagarajar as mahan
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Neither TMK nor the award to him is the issue. The real issue is that the Academy is going the Hindu newspaper way, out to destroy our rich heritage
N Ram is a virulent anti-Hindu.
Absolutely. All this happenings are because of N Murali. He should be thrown out of Music Academy.
He, his business and all connected to this (N)otorious MoorAli should be totally banned and boycotted by the Brahmin community and Sanathanis
Murali is brother of N Ram editor of Hindu. That is why TMK gets to write a column in the Hindu.
ரொம்ப சரி.
TM Krishna will be singing a RTP "General Dyer Mahaan, Sikh log They bewakoof" and presenting it at Jallian Walla Bhagh and at the Amritsar Golden temple. Go TMK!!
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Music Academy could well avoided this situation. They are soly responsible for this ugly consequences.
It was not a "unintended mistake", it is a planned anti Hinduism toolkit.
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It looks like getting veg.food from non veg. Hotel.of TMK
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This interview is a very good contribution at the right time.
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மியூசிக் அகடமி, சனாதனத்தையும், பக்தியையும் கேவலப்படுத்தும் பாடகர்களுக்கு, இனி சங்கீத கலாநிதியை தவிர, சங்கீத தயாநிதி, சங்கீத உதயநிதி, சங்கீத இன்பநிதி போன்ற விருதுகளையும் அளிக்கலாமே.😅
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#MewSickAcademy can give awards like Sangeetha Dayanidhi, Sangeetha Udayanidhi, Sangeetha Inpananidhi etc. apart from Sangeetha Kalanidhi to the singers who disrespect Sanatana and Bhakti.😅
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Pls don’t overlook Sangeetha Karunanidhi title .
You have left out Sangeeta Karunanidhi - the most valuable and befitting award of them all - to T.M.Krishna! 😂
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Issue is his attitude against particular community even though he is from the same community.
There is no question of his caliber in carnatic music.
He became popular by singing carnatic songs.
Then how can one tolorise his bad and cheap attitude towards stalwarts of carnatic music.
Shameful attitude
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Excellent panelists. Timely and noise free discussion.
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Music academy should rethinkits decision to award tm krishna may be he is under the grip of some unacceptable political influence may be he wants to be in the limelight for a wrong reason
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Vidushi rightly told that let there be only aalaapana, swara prastara and no lyrics. But mischievously he brings jesus etc., in songs. Prof. Rightly told that this culprit should be barred from singing kritis of tyagaraja etc.,
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I had earlier a couple of year ago that TM Krishna lost the right to sing compositions of
Saint Thyagaraajaa. Reason he sang a song in praise of one E V R who took out a procession with a portrait of
Lord Ram with garland of chappals and slapping the portrait with chappals and this man abused Sita Matha with obscene remarks calling Devi a prostitute. Does this man deserve the award ? He has become a blot on on his illustrious family.
This year the music festival in Madras Music Academy will be inaugurated by one
K Veeramani, who perhaps is the Guru of "TMK"
Veenai Dhanammal died 1938 just years after the award was instituted. Those who were bestowed with awards from 1928 in the initial years were legends and stalwarts like
Mysore Vasudeva chariar, Tiger Varadha chariar, Harikesanallur Muthiah Bhaghavathar, Umayalpuram Swaminathan, Tanjore Ponniah Pillai ( famous Tanjore Quartet,). Veenai Dhanammal died in 1938. However her grand daughters redoubtable
Brindha and Muktha received the award in 1970s.
Right time , right topic !!
11:44 TMK is just propaganda
12:06 Music is part of Sanathana Dharma
13:23 TMK’s politics in the garb of activism.
14:10 nip it in the bud
15:57 Music is rooted in sanatana dharma
16:05 Five faces , five notes
16:32 cannot divide Indian classical music from its cultural and Sanatana Dharma context
17:06 Bhairavi, Todi, Mohana /Bhupala
18:05 why did the MMA decide the award so soon ( Feb/Mar) this year?
31:50 Caste in music
36:05 Thyagaraja and Ananda Bhairavi
41:01 Artists from other states were ignored
43:07 what is the way forward?
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Sri.T.M.Krishna has fallen from the sublime to the ridiculous . It is very sad. Once a person has fallen into the rut ,redeeming can be only by God . Nothing can save him. Salutations to your views and stands.
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Wonderful & enlightening discussion. Congratulations from a rasika from Mumbai, Maharashtra.
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T M Krishna is a regular column writer in popular news print (Deccan Herald) on Sundays, you can see other than his profession ( music) he speaks bad about Modi & his policies etc , bad comments on Brahmins , this shows his mind set, he is easy prey for DMK, politicians take this advantage and use them to dislodge Hinduism, TMK is giving room for this
The only thing I disagree is timing.. last year award announcement was on 19 March
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This was because awards for three years had to be announced for the missed pandemic years. It was a special case.
@@gautamdesiraju9717 @gitamani is right about timing. The three years cumulative announcement was in 2022 - (Neyveli R. Santhanagopalan has been selected for the award for 2020 while veteran mridangam guru Tiruvarur Baktavatsalam for 2021 and violin maestros Lalgudi GJR Krishnan and his sister GJR Vijayalakshmi for 2022) and it was announced in May 22, 2022. Last year (2023) was to Bombay Jayashree was on March 19, 2023.
We agree. TM Krishnan should not bring caste politics into music and talk whatever he likes. In India not only Carnatic music even Hindustani music has God as central theme and even muslims sing songs on Krishna and other Hindu gods. Krishnan is the only intellectual to find fault with accepted norms of music. That is his rusted mind. He is deneaning Indian culture even in foreign platforms. He is more an activist than a musician now. We recommend award for best activist award from Tamilnadu government.
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All institutions wants to get
Dravidian model ANTI sanathan mark like ISO
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As I is rasigas should boycott its performance
It will perush
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In fact Music academy should have come out to stop this despicable and slanderous blabber. A set of musically ignorant burocrats and the place they enjoy due to inheritance
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Our trinities have composed these immortal kritis with so much devotion, and without expecting anything in return. They will be shocked of these interpretations made by these marxist elements like TMK. This should never be encouraged and should be nipped in the bud. We should be grateful to RaGa sisters for initiating the debate. As the professor said the timing of announcement is to be pondered. May be after elections when Modiji emerged victorious for the third time they may take back TMK name.
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Jackal against our culture 😆
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Without soulful Bhkathi & devotion there will not be real Sangeeth for a musician whoever may it be. TMK is doing all these gimmicks & jokery Bhavas during rendition only to be a centre of attention or to gain any undue benefits esp from Leftists or Modi haters. Rasikas & Musicians should now boycot MMA once for all.
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Carnatic music is bhakthy based fom of music. Those who have not believe in this are not eligible to this award. All mucians should boycott academy
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In fact, more the Music Academy... the Thiruvaiyaru Sri Thyagabrama Aradhana celebration Committee should take more care not to give time slots to Anti Hindu Musicians who don't respect the traditional way of concert and disregard Saint Thyagaraja. The Samadhi has its own Divine vibration with the Saint chanting endlessly from inside...Rama Rama Rama... it's believed. It's devotion that matters not the peak of Vidhwath alone.
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Always a pleasure to see the combination of unique panelists, great minds on your platform. This too with Chitravina Ravikiran was a great mix of erudite vocies. Ramanathan too was good .
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Brilliant program
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Very very true. Other state artistes have been ignored. And they get prominence only if they move to Chennai. Example is Pantula Rama
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Beautiful discussion and analysis.
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Probably Music academy is taken by Mr. Stalin group.
That is correct
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T M Krishna is not a Sanatani He studied in Jiddu Krishna Murthy school
A prominent dancer from
San Diego has vouched of T M Krishna drinking and falling on the Chennai roads and his wife picking him up
C M Venkatachalam a known womanizer who teaches music in San Diego has been promoting T M Krishna for more than twenty years years now and counting
This year we are sure IFAASD will host TMKrishna again this years music festival held every year in San Diego
Fed up of the antics of C M Venkatachalam and Shekhar Viswanathan many members left IFAASD
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Absolutely true...his wife Sangeetha seems to tolerate him.,that's why she still refuses her maiden name, and.take the name of her husband.. keeping him harms away
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Very wonderful interview! Great discussion and perspectives! Very grateful to atharva and team for bringing forth such discussion and defending our values and core beliefs 🙏🙌
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Many important points are brought out very well by panelists. Musicality without spirituality is like decorating the dead corpse. It takes lot of dedication and sacrifice to learn and propogate this art form for which we owe to our ancestors and present day musicians. Any art, sports, science or literary field where we see the exclusivity and the attitude of sitting on ivory tower without including genuine students will risk decline sooner or later. This deters talented individuals and drives them to different pastures. Feeling one upmanship just because I belong to certain region, speak certain language or I have certain skill will only harm. Some clean up needs to happen in any organization time to time to remove politics, ego etc.
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Apart from the artistes the members of the Academy should get the Management Committee voted out and bring back the original pristine glory of the Academy. The influx of the Leftists and non- believers of God have caused this burning issue. I will also blame the musicians as they desperately need Kalanidhi and hence compromise on their real ideals. It stinks.
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Thanks to Music Academy Now that the musicians will behave well This incident is an eye opener to many artists not only musicians They are extra talented no doubt but that doesn't mean that they can behave however they want The way they dress up in Swami Thyagaraja Aradanai I don't think just because they are talented they can attain bhakthi or mukthi That is a totally different subject
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how can we play rock and rol or blues ina concert where musicians are performing Beethoven concerts; one can have a separate prog for blues in fact more peole come for blues and po music than for european classical music.
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Why cant S.M.Krishna compose his own music with the words of Karl Marx's Das Kapital or Bible setting his songs to his self invented Ragas rather than copying from Carnatic music.
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TMK and not SMK
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Title wapsi a good step to teach these types of organisations
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As long as The devil Hindu is there in managing committee, it will go to destroy our classical music and put the mad mad DJ like carnatic music sance the soul- the bhakti.
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Isn't the music academy board also filled with Brahmins! Why is tmk accepting the award?
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Next time this academy will confer the highest award to lady Gaga
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Pure politics. DMK and Brahmin bashing are obvious reasons.
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समये कृतः संवादः । सदस्याः अपि सूक्ताः संयोजिताः अथर्वमञ्चेन ।
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Amazing video and information❤❤
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Madras Musical Academy is now Mad musings academy I think 😅
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We need to be more direct
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good discussion with an interesting panel not the usual mavericks. But didnt understand the reluctance of moderator to name T.M.Krishna - what does referring to TMK as 'this situation' beget? Ravikiran too kept avoiding it, if it werent for TMK why would ravikiran even have returned the sangeeta kalanidhi award..right? so what was the reluctance ?...?
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Riveting discussion 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
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The hight of ignorance generated by arrogance & false senxe of mastery is in those that openly audauciously propound that music is just a technical construct of soundsds. For them their is no feelings, bhav , variation of rasas in feelings that evolve those sound constructs. The lorigun of swaras are in Vedic lakshana ascribed to the drones of various animals in expressing their feelings . .So for these self thinking geniuses music is structured noise without bhav or feeling
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My sense is this posting is docile and somewhat ineffective.
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Thnks god in we dont depend on such academies
The father of Karnatak Music Purandara Dasa was not a Brahmin. The great saint Kanaka Dasa was not a Brahmin.
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Karunanidh son stalin is minister,His sister is MP, Stalin son Minister,Stalin step brother is also a leader. Is it not domination of one family. why not Brahmins should be criticised for their merit
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The utter viciousness of the coordinated attack on TMK in this season of unprincipled BJP politics says everything about the pollution off Carnatic music by a toxic, supremacist ideology which despite its overt religiosity, has neither sublimated the minds of the attackers nor removed the venom from their tongues . To see performers like Sudha Ragunathan, Ranjani and Gayatri leading the attack on a fellow senior artiste is not only most disillusioning but has exposed them as political functionaries...as skimmed milk masquerading as cream., their made-up bhava before the microphone merely a prop used for effects. Their inability to separate the opinions of TMK, however disconcerting, from the quality of his music and immense contribution to the field , is most disappointing. It is indeed a sad day for music and a sadder one for those who believe that music ought to build bridges and cross boundaries...even ideologies. Vasu Subrahmanyam, Canberra
What BJP has to do with this controversy. Will you please explain?
C M Venkatachalam of San Diego a known womanizer and Shekhar Viswanathan who run IFAASD promote T M Krishna and his ideology
Purandaradasa was a Kannada madhwa brahmin. Kanakadasa was a Kannada kuruba. Shishunal Sharief was Kannada muslim.
I think One of Sri Shishunal Sharief ji 's poetic works is the set of lyrics for "Lokada Kalaji" sung by Raghu Dixit
The poem of Sri Shishunal Sharief is so nuanced and full of wisdom
Why you read thyagaraja's song when you cannot pronounce them?
This tm krishna fellow is essentially sticking a kine in the back of the very people on whose greatness his profession is based. Very unfortunate.
Excellent topic..but though tm Krishna is the fountainhead for this discussion. Each and every panelist except for the lady vocalist took his name. The high standard by not taking his name..how does it help.....when tmk is taking names and maligning dharma
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Keeping all the noise out - simple question is "What is TMK's contribution to carnatic music" other than mindless, baseless rants and claims? MA will be dumbfounded if we ask them to state the reasons, one by one. Nothing more is needed. Actually, TMK is a wasted talent, failed musician.
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All the artists should boycott
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Why the Rasikas have not boycotted T M Krishna?.It is houseful even after TMK controversy Chitraveena Ravikiran is not blemishless.He was named in metwo controversy.Since 2018 Ravikiran is not featured in Music Academy season.Just last month TM Krishna's concert at Bangalore Gayana Samaja arranged by Srirama Lalitha Kala Mandira was houseful.If Rasikas continue to throng TMK concerts then Why the fellow musicians are protesting on being conferred Sangeethakalanidhi award.
That is because TMK has spoken ill about MMA for 10+ years calling it an upper class dominated society. He also did not perform for the same reason
Why is so much importance being given T.M.Krishna and the Music Academy. If we feel so strongly about Krishna being awarded Sangita Kalanidhi , let's boycott both. The choice is ours.
Because there is political strategic importance for the country and it goes far beyond Carnatic music.
When some of the wrestlers,academicians, padma award winners returned their awards protesting against Centre's wrong policies and mishandling of Brij Bhushan, Farmers protest, they were criticised by people but the same people are supporting the actions of some musicians returning the awards. Similarly those who supported wrestlers action are now criticising the actions of musicians. Every issue is politicised and given caste colour. Tolerance level is diminishing day by day.
Carnatic Music is purely based on bhakthi and samrpan, the dirty man tm Krishna who praises about periyar and try to walk with music path, he is thinking that he is a hero and saviour of music, tm Krishna even talk bad about MS subbulakshmi amma who dedicated her whole life for music
Not only TMKrishna sir More to follow him This incident has started for good Bhakthi and Mukthi are different subjects Many artists are not for that
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One of the gentlemen said the music is to unite people. Isn’t it what TMK also saying? I only see insecure feelings for breaking the barriers. I think this is what let western music to take the ground here. Basically you all agree that Carnatic Music is not something to keep within a community 👍👍👍 I noticed an irony where one person said we like Hindustani also but other person said Tajmahal should not be the identity. 🤔
Music is to unite so why divide and turn people against Brahmins by screaming against them all the time ?
Education is to unite people , why bring casteism and reward some reserved category of people. Brahmins go into OBC or general category.
Musicians are 1% of the population. Leave that aside.
There are 1000s of students who are losing seats even with excellent scores. Why divide people ????
Appo moodara vaaai ipo Mattum Epdi ????
Education is more universal than being a musician. Modalla address that unity!!!
@@Putpencil2Paper I don’t think this to turn anyone against anyone. It’s to spread and widen the space for all.
Without reservation country like India wouldn’t have reached current stage of wide spread development across communities. Do you then oppose 10% reservation?
Instead of talking ,let him put forth a list of what all he has practically done, to bring all he talks to effect.. if it's just talking, then it takes a different turn..
@@deepn2164 Will he be appreciated if had done some or if he does in future?
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Purandara dasar was a brahmin by birth I thought
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Typical bramhanical response.
Nobody is asking you to watch, leave
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