This is the most clear, thorough and yet somehow concise diy video on this topic out there, and possibly the best diy video I have ever watched. I followed this guide step by step and did not run into any issues. The final product was flawless. Thank you so much Jeff
Jeff awesome instructional video ... completed the repair yesterday (both doors) - I ordered 2 tubes of glue (used a good 4 + oz. per door) and followed your instructions to a tee. Thanks again.
Great video! I had one door panel replaced under Porsche "Goodwill". The other door panel they wouldn't do and expected me to cough up a lot of money, so I didn't bother. I'll be fixing it myself, thanks to your video.
Fantastic video! You just saved me the $700 (US) that Pedro's upholstery shop wanted to charge. I used 3M 08061 (available on Amazon) as a replacement glue. My advice is to go slow and if, when reinstalling, something doesn't feel right, stop, and start over. Dont force anything. Pedro also tried to scare me something would break, but there is almost nothing to break. Sorry, Pedro- I'm sure we shale meet again!
Another very informative clip Jeff. Thanks. I have a 718 which is pretty much the same body and have used your videos as a reference to remove the interior as I got the dreaded blocked rear drains. Your clips are a joy to have as a reference. Thanks from Ireland. 🇮🇪
Thanks Jeff. As mine is still under extended warranty I’m going to see whether Porsche will do the fix. Interestingly, when I raised this in casual conversation with a Porsche centre service manager, he expressed the opinion (which I disagreed with) that the problem was caused by people gripping the sill when opening and closing the door while getting into and out of the vehicle!
I'd be pushing hard to get it replaced, but that being said the fix isn't a hard one. Personally I thing the holding of the sill doesn't have much to do with this issue, but is the cause of the perforations at the end breaking.
@@1957robertjohnson I was hoping that Porsche might have upgraded the adhesive in response to the widespread failure of that used for 991s and 981s. I wonder whether early 992s and 718s are also prone to this issue.
It’s a shame we have to this for these cars, good back ground on explaining this with water based glue. I did my driver side about 4 years ago on my 991, I used liquid nails, now my other side is failing and I will look to get the3M product, impressive on your clamp 🗜️ detail. Good job mate.
Thanks so much for making this. Could you comment on whether or not this repair would interfere at all with side impact airbag deployment? The concern I’ve read about is that the panel should not be glued in so tightly/permanently such that it would prevent that section from releasing if the airbag needed to deploy. But after catching a glimpse of the door internals and the airbag in this video, I don’t see how the glue job would play any part in hindering airbag deployment.
Airbag deployment has huge forces. It's not going to do anything to impede this in my opinion. As long as you are not gluing anything in there that can come free and fly about during deployment you should be good.
What are the chances!! I just did this repair on my 981 1 day before the upload. My process was exactly the same as yours, even down to the metal ruler. The only difference was I used an adhesive called "camie 313" commonly used for headliners, thought this would be a good match because the backing of headliners is foam. So far it worked out perfect but I'll have to see the long term durability of it. I did this on my passengers side, I will try to do my drivers side with this adhesive to see the difference.
Apologies for the late upload😀 Nice thing is that if it doesn't hold then you have all the skills to go again using another adhesive. But hopefully it will hold and all will be well.
@@jeffrichardsoncardiy update: the adhesive came loose. I think it was more so the heat that did it, I live in southern California and park the car outside in my drive way so that's probably what got it. I will try again with what you're using and report back. Edit: I cannot get this California because of stupid regulations, do you think rubber/contact cement will work or pvc glue?
@@omarg6022 Can't help you with any other adhesives, as I haven't tested them. I know that the average grade glue isn't going to be good enough, as the heat generated inside the cabin on a hot day parked in the sun is seriously intense. Do you have a friend in a state that sells it. I know there are some doing this to get it. I'm not sure if you saw the video I made of the car cover I made, but this made a massive difference when I was parking the car in the sun at work, and the climate in Cal is pretty similar to where I am in Oz.
In 2018, bought a used 2013 911 Manual (in another state) which arrived to me with the delaminated passenger door card. Within 2mo, the driver side delaminated too. I looked underneath and saw a ton of sloppily applied glue AND screws!!. Took a look at the service records and saw a 2017 Porsche dealer repair noted as, "pass + driver door card repair, plastic adhesive applied $950". First, $950 for glue, really?? Good grief! Second, wonder what glue they used such that it delaminated all over again 1 year later? I sold the car a year later as-is, given the dealer wanted like $4k for brand new door cards, $700 for an oil change and $5k for a new clutch. Decided that Porsche maintenance costs just werent for me.
You're lucky your plastic did not warp. In hotter climates it's warping too and a heatgun will help remold it. I used straps and clamps, some extra wooden blocks to reshape it and then glue the vinyl back on.
I did have a little warping on one panel, which was corrected as you say. I was tempted to put it in the same video, but didn't want to muddy the waters. I might make another video to show this.
Hi Jeff! Thanks for the excellent video. Difficult to get hold of the glue here in Sweden. Contacted 3M directly and they don’t sell it in Sweden. Do you know a site where I can order the glue? /Hans
No idea. You might have issues getting it sent to Sweden if it's banned, so short of going on a road trip to somewhere else in Europe and buying it, I can't be much help.
I just did this and I must have done something wrong. My panels are securely glued as per instructions, but that 5mm curve didn’t set properly. Mine followed the line of the hard plastic interior and now sticks up about 5mm. Any ideas what I did wrong? The hard plastic piece seems to have warped also.
It could be the plastic being warped. I've heard people talk of this, where heat warps the plastic shell. I've not seen it, but I've heard that people have corrected it by heating with a heat gun bending back into place.
Jeff another great video, while I don’t have this problem (yet) it is great to know the repair is relatively simple. I do have an unrelated question. Do you have my experience with tightening the drivers interior rear view mirror? Can this been done at home? I have a 2015 981 base Boxster that has a wobbly rear view interior mirror. Occasionally when going over rough pavement at speed the mirror wiggles and triggers the windscreen wipers. I am trying to see if I can tighten the mirror which will hopefully solve the intermittent windscreen wiper issue. Thank you in advance for your help with this.
Hi Jeff! Any repacements for this glue you used? Is there specific type of glue to be used / to avoid? The one you mentioned is hardly available in my area
@@jeffrichardsoncardiy many thanks! Would you know what what is the material used for the soft part of the door panel that has to be glued to the plastic door frame? PVC/PP/PE?
@@mikeonbike8100 No idea. Some sort of foam. What it's made of I have no idea. Gluing to this doesn't seem to be an issue due to the porosity of the material.
This is the most clear, thorough and yet somehow concise diy video on this topic out there, and possibly the best diy video I have ever watched. I followed this guide step by step and did not run into any issues. The final product was flawless. Thank you so much Jeff
Happy to help. Great you got a good result.
Thank you Jeff! I watched a bunch of different videos about how to repair this and yours was the best … extremely clear and easy to follow …
Happy to help.
Jeff awesome instructional video ... completed the repair yesterday (both doors) - I ordered 2 tubes of glue (used a good 4 + oz. per door) and followed your instructions to a tee. Thanks again.
Thanks for all of your tutorials!
Happy to help. Thanks for the feedback.
Great video! I had one door panel replaced under Porsche "Goodwill". The other door panel they wouldn't do and expected me to cough up a lot of money, so I didn't bother. I'll be fixing it myself, thanks to your video.
Happy to help. As you can see it's not a hard fix.
Fantastic video! You just saved me the $700 (US) that Pedro's upholstery shop wanted to charge. I used 3M 08061 (available on Amazon) as a replacement glue. My advice is to go slow and if, when reinstalling, something doesn't feel right, stop, and start over. Dont force anything. Pedro also tried to scare me something would break, but there is almost nothing to break. Sorry, Pedro- I'm sure we shale meet again!
Another very informative clip Jeff. Thanks. I have a 718 which is pretty much the same body and have used your videos as a reference to remove the interior as I got the dreaded blocked rear drains. Your clips are a joy to have as a reference. Thanks from Ireland. 🇮🇪
Thanks for the feedback. Happy to help. Jeff
Absolutely brilliant video! My 2013 911S (991) has the same issue. Can't wait to do the DIY. Subscribed!
Bravo! I appreciate the explanation of why this occurs.
thank you for your video. I followed exact steps to repair my Boxster driver door and it looks great.
Thank you , thank you. Both my panels are loose. Excellent tutorial. 👏👏👏
Great straight forward DYI presented with complete information. Thank you.
An absolutely fantastic video. Thanks for making and sharing this info. ❤👌🏼
Great stuff! Your videos are a real life saver for Porsche Boxster 981 owners who want to do some maintenance ourselves.
Thanks Jeff. As mine is still under extended warranty I’m going to see whether Porsche will do the fix. Interestingly, when I raised this in casual conversation with a Porsche centre service manager, he expressed the opinion (which I disagreed with) that the problem was caused by people gripping the sill when opening and closing the door while getting into and out of the vehicle!
I'd be pushing hard to get it replaced, but that being said the fix isn't a hard one. Personally I thing the holding of the sill doesn't have much to do with this issue, but is the cause of the perforations at the end breaking.
The problem with replacement is the problem is reoccurring. The replacement panel uses the same insufficient adhesive as the original.
@@1957robertjohnson I was hoping that Porsche might have upgraded the adhesive in response to the widespread failure of that used for 991s and 981s. I wonder whether early 992s and 718s are also prone to this issue.
Excellent video. Thanks so much for posting it.....although I hope I never need to do this repair!
It’s a shame we have to this for these cars, good back ground on explaining this with water based glue. I did my driver side about 4 years ago on my 991, I used liquid nails, now my other side is failing and I will look to get the3M product, impressive on your clamp 🗜️ detail. Good job mate.
Subscribing for when I eventually convince the misso to let me upgrade my 987 to a 981! Excellent videos mate. Cheers!
Excellent video, these door cards cost over 3K at the dealer.🙂
Thanks for this. Exactly what I'm looking for as I'm having the same issue cropping up.
Thanks so much for making this. Could you comment on whether or not this repair would interfere at all with side impact airbag deployment? The concern I’ve read about is that the panel should not be glued in so tightly/permanently such that it would prevent that section from releasing if the airbag needed to deploy. But after catching a glimpse of the door internals and the airbag in this video, I don’t see how the glue job would play any part in hindering airbag deployment.
Airbag deployment has huge forces. It's not going to do anything to impede this in my opinion. As long as you are not gluing anything in there that can come free and fly about during deployment you should be good.
Excellent, like all of your videos.
What are the chances!! I just did this repair on my 981 1 day before the upload. My process was exactly the same as yours, even down to the metal ruler. The only difference was I used an adhesive called "camie 313" commonly used for headliners, thought this would be a good match because the backing of headliners is foam. So far it worked out perfect but I'll have to see the long term durability of it. I did this on my passengers side, I will try to do my drivers side with this adhesive to see the difference.
Apologies for the late upload😀 Nice thing is that if it doesn't hold then you have all the skills to go again using another adhesive. But hopefully it will hold and all will be well.
@@jeffrichardsoncardiy update: the adhesive came loose. I think it was more so the heat that did it, I live in southern California and park the car outside in my drive way so that's probably what got it. I will try again with what you're using and report back. Edit: I cannot get this California because of stupid regulations, do you think rubber/contact cement will work or pvc glue?
@@omarg6022 Can't help you with any other adhesives, as I haven't tested them. I know that the average grade glue isn't going to be good enough, as the heat generated inside the cabin on a hot day parked in the sun is seriously intense. Do you have a friend in a state that sells it. I know there are some doing this to get it.
I'm not sure if you saw the video I made of the car cover I made, but this made a massive difference when I was parking the car in the sun at work, and the climate in Cal is pretty similar to where I am in Oz.
In 2018, bought a used 2013 911 Manual (in another state) which arrived to me with the delaminated passenger door card. Within 2mo, the driver side delaminated too. I looked underneath and saw a ton of sloppily applied glue AND screws!!. Took a look at the service records and saw a 2017 Porsche dealer repair noted as, "pass + driver door card repair, plastic adhesive applied $950".
First, $950 for glue, really?? Good grief! Second, wonder what glue they used such that it delaminated all over again 1 year later?
I sold the car a year later as-is, given the dealer wanted like $4k for brand new door cards, $700 for an oil change and $5k for a new clutch. Decided that Porsche maintenance costs just werent for me.
Jeff, great video. Thank you.
Like many other posters unable to get the glue in my state. How were you able to determine this 3M product was the one to use?
I did a bunch of research on different glues, then bought it and did some testing to see how well it worked.
Damn, your videos are good, Jeff. Thanks for this.
Great tutorial Jeff. Any ideas for an adhesive alternative? My state doesn't allow the sale of 3M 4475.
Unfortunately not.
@@PatTheCarNut It won't melt them together. It's just a good glue that bonds well to the plastic shell and the foam.
Thank you for this Jeff! I’m curious, how have the panels held up?
No problems, but the panels are on a project car that just sits in the shed, so it's not out in the heat.
You're lucky your plastic did not warp. In hotter climates it's warping too and a heatgun will help remold it. I used straps and clamps, some extra wooden blocks to reshape it and then glue the vinyl back on.
I did have a little warping on one panel, which was corrected as you say. I was tempted to put it in the same video, but didn't want to muddy the waters. I might make another video to show this.
I assume the airbag will still deploy properly if need be?
Hi Jeff!
Thanks for the excellent video.
Difficult to get hold of the glue here in Sweden. Contacted 3M directly and they don’t sell it in Sweden. Do you know a site where I can order the glue?
/Hans
No idea. You might have issues getting it sent to Sweden if it's banned, so short of going on a road trip to somewhere else in Europe and buying it, I can't be much help.
Jeff your're the man!!
How is the repair holding up? Just came across this and am ordering the glue.
No issues, but it's not a car that's kept outside in the heat etc.
I just did this and I must have done something wrong. My panels are securely glued as per instructions, but that 5mm curve didn’t set properly. Mine followed the line of the hard plastic interior and now sticks up about 5mm. Any ideas what I did wrong? The hard plastic piece seems to have warped also.
It could be the plastic being warped. I've heard people talk of this, where heat warps the plastic shell. I've not seen it, but I've heard that people have corrected it by heating with a heat gun bending back into place.
Jeff another great video, while I don’t have this problem (yet) it is great to know the repair is relatively simple. I do have an unrelated question. Do you have my experience with tightening the drivers interior rear view mirror? Can this been done at home? I have a 2015 981 base Boxster that has a wobbly rear view interior mirror. Occasionally when going over rough pavement at speed the mirror wiggles and triggers the windscreen wipers. I am trying to see if I can tighten the mirror which will hopefully solve the intermittent windscreen wiper issue. Thank you in advance for your help with this.
Have a look at this video. It has all the detail of how it's attached.
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Hi Jeff! Any repacements for this glue you used? Is there specific type of glue to be used / to avoid? The one you mentioned is hardly available in my area
Unfortunately I don't know of any alternatives. This was the only one I found that was suitable.
@@jeffrichardsoncardiy many thanks! Would you know what what is the material used for the soft part of the door panel that has to be glued to the plastic door frame? PVC/PP/PE?
@@mikeonbike8100 No idea. Some sort of foam. What it's made of I have no idea. Gluing to this doesn't seem to be an issue due to the porosity of the material.
@@jeffrichardsoncardiy appreciate your responsiveness and the whole 981 job you have done. All the best Master!
you are A HERO!!
Very well explained
Thank you!
Legend.
Looks like you're going to put Pedro's Garage out of business.
I'm sure they'll do all right. There will always be lots of people who don't want to DIY their car.
Thanks for video,
But those are expensive cars, ppl pay big amout to buy them, then these stupid things happen.
This adhesive is banned in my state. Are there any good substitutes?
I had the same issue. Found it on eBay for ~$25 delivered.