Low IFR landing at night
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- Опубліковано 30 жов 2023
- Flying from West Chester, PA in our Bonanza V tail, on an IFR flight plan to Bangor, ME. The weather forecast deteriorated significantly while en route and we ended up landing in low IFR conditions, shooting the ILS15 Y approach, very close to minimums.
Pro tip: turn off your strobes when shooting an approach in the soup at night.
Yup! Thanks
Is it legal to turn off anti collision when flying in IMC?
@@richardconstantine6843I’m talking about the strobes, but I think it’s ok if it adds to the safety of the flight
@@richardconstantine6843you can turn of the lights if you deem it is interfering with you operating the aircraft safely. Basically PIC has all authority do what they have to do to maintain safety of flight.
@@richardconstantine6843it is recommended to turn off strobes in clouds, nav lights stay on.
Low IFR, single engine, at night , never in a million years would I attempt to do this. Risky stuff , especially with the family onboard!
💯 This. Not smart.
Why not?
@@Guardman123uwhy not?
Because if things go south it’s tougher to find a safe place to put it down at night.
People that fly single engine planes at night or in heavy IFR have never lost an engine before mid flight.
That was low. Glad to see another part 91 non-pro operator that maintains that level of proficiency.
Impressive stuff, great IFR proficiency... But if I was flying a minimums approach with my wife and kiddos in a single engine piston I'd be a ball of nerves...
WOW! That was some great IFR flying! It was scary though and risky, but that's what IFR is for.
amazing the confidence of your kid in the back!! great video!!
Great video . Still remember my first ILS to minimums , awesome feeling . Thx for posting
Your channel popped into my feed for the first time. Excellent, excellent video. Well flown. I'm working on my IRA, and these videos are inspiring.
Great video. That is the professionalism I aspire to have in my flying.
Superb approach! Reducing visibility over all the alternate airfields, family on board! You did extremely well, great job!😅😊
That, my friend is how it's done!! You captured the video of the approach so well!! Bravo! I'd fly with you anytime!
Wow, that was fantastic! Great job. Really enjoyed watching that. You have a really nice glass cockpit. I'd hate to have to do that approach on steam gauges! Well done!
Beautiful approach! Wee bit jelly!
what a beautiful landscape !!! new follower!
Greatest IFR approach yet and I’m looking forward for more and your A-36 is very well equipped and as well right at minimums and single engine at night was extremely well flown
This flight I had to come back and watch this amazing ILS approach again to knowing that your flight was very well prepared at night and the best thing was breaking out and seeing the lights .
All I could think about prior to getting into the hard IFR is where the heck he was gonna land if the engine quit. It was all lakes and woods.
Absolutely magical
New panel since the last vid I’ve seen. Nice. Enjoyed experiencing the approach vicariously. Did replicate it on a Sim
Nice! Hoping to fly into Brandywine soon to visit the Helicopter museum.
God I wish my 172 had autopilot. I can take 10 mins of imc then I want out. lol
Love the videos!
Enjoy the flights and vids, thanks
Awesome job!
No better feeling getting lights at mins! Great Job!
What a MAGIC moment !
Such a cool video!
Spectacular video….
Very nice landing, your wife looked excited. She had that fire in her eyes during the landing.
Nice approach!
Incredible ... 🛩🛩
Also a good video to discuss aeronautical decision making. Very nice approach.
Question would be how much additional risk is assumed by proceeding with an IFR landing, at night , single engine, to minimums, with family in tow. A lot higher than clear skies. Sounds like there was a nice restaurant nearby with better landing conditions that your wife suggested you visit. Was that the better option?
If you do this repeatedly, the odds begin to stack up and bad outcomes become more and more likely.
Indeed, seems like very much of get there it is in play here
Absolutely. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. “Pick ONE.” Smh 🤦🏼♂️
@supermotosize Very valid points! All nearby airports ended up much worse than forecasted, including Waterville and Augusta. I decided to shoot one (and one only) approach at KBGR which has the largest runway and great approach lights. If that hadn’t worked I would have gone back to MA where the weather was much better. Should I have done so immediately? - yes, perhaps.
Marvellous 👍👋👋👋
Approach lighting systems makes those landing possible. Nice job.
Well done!
Hey great video man. I agree with the people turning off the strobes would help and is allowed. But otherwise solid landing. Beautiful plane too!
Long time, no video. That was a good one! (Just checked. Missed the one from a month ago. Will watch.)
@jayphilipwilliams Thanks! Great to hear from you!
Great flight, doesn't get much more hardcore than that in a single piston.
Awesome approach and great job! Not to nit pick but turn off the strobes while IMC at night
My first time watching on V tales Aviation
Nice video. Good flying. 0% chance that was at or above minimums though 🤣
Shhhhhhh
Hahaha! Thanks! The action cameras I use don’t do well in darkness and make it look worse than it was. The initial PIREP was accurate - the bases were about 50 feet above minimums.
@@martindurkin5223
Good Job!!!!
nicely done. interesting to read comments on peoples' differing appetites for risk... this one isn't for me, esp with pax on board.
Just found your channel, watched one video and immediately subscribed! Great job..thank you… Beautiful plane and very proficient in the flying as well as filming department. Are you a professional pilot in the work life as well?
@nottoolatetofly371 Thank you! Glad you liked it! No, flying is just a hobby of mine. Although a passionate one. :)
I had you for a pro. You seemed very comfortable in that situation managing wife and night ILS to mins. How many hours of IFR do you put on in a year?
Sweaty palms territory right there! Ain’t no way in hell my Cessna’s getting me through that! You have a very nicely-equipped Bonanza!
So cool.
Interesting people are amazed by an approach to minimums. During my initial IFR training every approach was done to minimums. The trick is really to maintain proficiency.
Great job but I’d recommend turning off landing light when imc on a low vis night. Best regards.
Phenomenal
Nicely done. Just a thought, If you turned off you landing light you would see farther in the soup instead of lighting all the moisture right in front of the plane. The runway environment would show up sooner. then turn the light on or just land without it.
Yes, others have suggested the same. I believe the answer is yes. :)
Nice approach. And beautiful airplane! Question about the conversation after landing. When she asked “was that really 400 feet” and you responded “400 feet above sea level,” what were you referring to? Are you referring to the ATIS? Because that’s AGL.
@mooneyviews8390 Thanks! Yes, good question. I think she was referring to the PIREP at 09:15, "bases 450, tops 1,300", which would be MSL. ATIS was OVC002 (i.e. 200 feet) and yes, you are correct, that's AGL.
When your wifes askes a pertinent question and you answer Oh Yah😅
“The sandwich place” is Big G’s I’m assuming? Best sammich I’ve ever had
@RyanW1000 Yes! That’s the place!
ALSO UR LANDING LIGHT - BLINDING
You have balls of steel
OMG, what happened to the runway lights? Johnny,: “Just kidding!” (twirling extension cord).
Please think about installing shoulder harnesses.
I can't believe it. A flight video without constant crappy music in the background (or even worse, in the foreground)
Love your videos! N861T
Nice.
Nicely equipped airplane to make a single pilot IFR approach.
Wow. Cool video. Wouldn't it have been better to turn off the landing light on final?
Yes, others have suggested the same. I believe the answer is yes. Thanks!
Lots of people here talking about how prudent your aeronautical decisions were in this video. If you care to hear yet another perspective, here are my thoughts both as someone who's based in the Northeast owning a piston powered airplane, and as a Part 135 captain on a Gulfstream. Personally, I think there's no single correct answer here. There are risks within your control, and risks that aren't. The risks you can control come down to how proficient you are, how capable you are, and how capable the airplane is. Be wise enough not to get in over your head, or operate the airplane under a set of circumstances that exceeds it's level of capability.
What's more of an issue are the risks you can't control. Like any other type of risk, they can be managed and mitigated to an extent, but they can't be eliminated. Despite having done it quite a bit in the past, now at the ripe old age of 32 with over a decade of professional flying under my belt, I won't fly a piston single in weather that low anymore. I'll paint you one picture that will explain my reasoning clearly. Let's say you were shooting this exact approach in the exact same conditions again. But this time, the engine failed when you crossed the final approach fix. Its 200 and 1/2. You won't make the runway even on a clear day, but in this case, other than making sure it hits whatever it hits right side up, you have no control over where the airplane and the earth will meet. By the time you break out of the bases, there's no room to react to what's in front of you, much less see it. Especially at night. Doesn't matter if you're the best pilot on the planet, there's just nothing you can do. Hard IFR at night in a single engine turboprop? Maybe. Burning kerosene instead of avgas mitigates the risk quite a bit. But in a single engine recip? Not me.
That's not to say you shouldn't do it. You just have to understand that flying this kind of airplane this way is really pushing the envelope by any standard. Can it do it? Sure. Can it do it with any margin? Not really. There are too many situations on nights like this one where a single point of failure results in a seriously, seriously bad set of circumstances. The question you have to ask yourself is, is it a risk worth taking?
You look like a very capable and competent instrument pilot. If I were you, I'd say that you flying *that* airplane is a big fish in a small pond. Your level of comfort and capability exceeds that of the airplane. Maybe it's time to look into an airplane that can do the things your comfortable with and capable of doing, but with some more margin for error and the unforeseen. I'm based up at MGJ with a Cessna 414A, very similar avionics to yours. Take a ride up one day, lunch is on me.
Thanks for sharing your perspective! I agree the margins are diminishing. Might take you up on that lunch! :)
Crazy decision making and risk analysis; with your wife and kid in there with you too., Wow
im doing my ifr rating at the moment, and watching this i would litterally shit my pants
Pro tip: turn off your landing lights when in IMC. That stops blinding you.
6:21 which city is that? amazing views btw.
@cmdrriotz5283 thanks! that’s New Haven, CT
Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Night, IFR, single engine, to mins, family onboard. No offense man you're really stacking the odds against you. Go ugly early and divert. Be careful, and stay safe.
Nice BUT, if Augusta was still available I would have gone into that. We all know why you made the decision you did but of course it is your final decision as PIC.
Yikes!!!! Gib my twin!!
Olive Garden in Augusta would have been a much better idea. not worth the risk bro! A twin engine jet yes, a single engine prop. Not Smart!
What was your flight time? Google estimate is 8 hours 48 minutes for driving.
@kelvinleigh I think it was just over 2.5 hours
You do NOT have to have all those lights on shooting the approach. Make it easy on yourself. Well done.
Leave her behind. That’s a lot of negative energy!
I would not try this even in flight sim.
Practice by becoming a donut club member
Don't listen to all the armchair pilots in the comments, you've been trained to fly to minimums and would have gone missed and elsewhere if you didn't see what you needed. You were bang on the centreline when you broke out. Great job!
Just because you CAN and it’s legal doesn’t mean you should or it’s smart.
Pro tip: don't fly low IMC at night in a very old single engine piston - Review decision-making process.
Single engine IFR Night. How damn stupid to risk your family’s life.
What an unnecessary comment.
Seriously!!! He is obviously a better pilot than you. Not to mention he had ample fuel and could have gone to an appropriate alternate. But that comment simply says, and demonstrates how ignorant you are.
That’s why YOU have to develop YOUR personal minimums! You can’t dictate what someone else’s are.
Nope. Very necessary. He needs to reevaluate his aeronautical decision making.
I strongly suggest you watch Mike Patey’s most recent speech. Just because you CAN and it’s legal doesn’t mean you should or it’s smart. And, as Dan Gryder says, PICK ONE. Not single engine, single pilot, night, terrain, hard imc. Smh. Unreal. Were you transporting a liver or something that absolutely had to get there as a matter of life and death? Get smarter.
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way to jeopardize childrens' lives
ah yes. so when children fly on the airlines while on an instrument approach, their lives are being jeopardized. Better stick to driving!
Why do you leave the landing light and strobes on when in the clouds or fog? The glare coming back at you is blinding and an excellent way to give yourself vertigo while making it more difficult to see the approach lights. You should always turn the landing light and strobes off, then turn the landing light back on when you break out.
Nice approach!