I like seeing other crafters’ comments from your comparison demo. I learn a lot so it’s worth the read. Thanks for taking the time doing this demo! Great job. 👏🏻👏🏻🙏🏻👍🏼💖
Only Hammermill and watercolor for me. I am not making cards for Hallmark. The everyday people we make cards for are genuinely happy and appreciative for the time i take to make handmade cards instead of running to the store to just pick one up. Thank you for your time to compare these products
I use Neenah 110 cover mainly for my card bases but try to avoid using it for ink blending and other techniques as I find it pills. I do all my work on a panel first then attach to the base. I originally bought the Hammermill for hot foiling and it's stupendous for that but I also find it works well for ink blending and some other techniques that involve some moisture (not a lot). For heavy water use, I just switch to watercolor cardstock to avoid any issues.
Neenah pilling is a surprise - never had it happen in years of use. But maybe we use different inks and you work the blending harder (though I have a heavy hand).
@@bethjeans3780 That's because it does not exist! The Hammermill 110 lb is not a cover measurement, since the paper has a weight basis of 199 GSM. Only clueless people with nothing to compare with think that the 110 lb rating is 110 lb cover.
Thank you for this comparison. I bought hammermill mostly because of price and most people seemed to give it good reviews. I'm on a budget so I have to be careful. I always hear of people using the Neenah in videos, so I often wonder if it really is that much better. Now I know it doesn't make enough difference to me for what I do. I see some others commenting that the comparison wasn't accurate, but I really like this comparison. For me, it wasn't about them being exactly alike in weight or how many swipes or strokes you did. It was about comparing two of the most likely and commonly used cardstocks for making cards. I see and understand exactly what you did and I appreciate it.
I haven't used Hammermill with an embossing folder yet, but my best guess would be that the Neenah would work better because it's a lighter weight. I'll tell you later though once I test them!
I personally like 100# or above you card bases and if it works great for coloring and blending that's a plus! I've used both of these in the past and my results were like yours-- very little difference. One thing I like about Hammermill is that I can get it in 11x17 and make 4 card bases from one sheet. Thanks for sharing.
I would have liked to see everything once all the ink has dried back, like a half and hour later. Also the Hammermill is a heavier card stock, so better for card bases.
Fun comparison! 80 vs. 100 lb. can make a bit of a difference too. So to compare apples to apples - just as you’ve done by making everything else the same - comparing gsm instead of lbs. would be ideal, since 80 lbs. of one cardstock vs. another can be quite different.
@@bdk_creations and Neenah’s 110 Classic Crest gsm is 297. (Don’t get me started on people who buy Neenah at big box stores and buy Exact Index instead of Classic Crest and think it’s what card makers use, so wonder why anyone likes Neenah. Exact Index 80 pound is something like 118 gsm (don’t quote me, no time to look it up).
@@bethjeans3780 I use the 90 and 110lb exact index for mixed media and layering! The 90lb one actually does work pretty well with copics, but it's not my favorite because of it's weight.
I actually use the 90lb exact index from Neenah for sprays and mixed media! It does warp a lot, but I've never had any major problems with it. The only reason I have it was because it was on sale for 6 bucks lol!
I don’t personally use off white cardstock for my bases, however, I can recommend both Lawn Fawn and Hero Arts cardstock! They are a heavy weight that is amazing for bases, but they are expensive. I use Joann’s 110lb white cardstock for my bases, so you could check to see if they have off-white. I’ve heard good things about the 110lb cardstock from Michael’s too, but I’ve never used it. Hope this was helpful!
Thank you for the comparison. I actually like the brighter look of the Hammermill ‘as is’ better than the Neenah and generally prefer working with 100 lb. weight card stock over 80, so performance and price aside, I’d probably choose Hammermill. I also think that familiarity with any product makes all the difference. The more you use something, the better you get at using it and the better the results. Have you tried the Accent brand?
Another way to compare weights, is to refer to gsm. Grams per square metre. Think of it as thread count. I look at that too. Not all lbs of paper are equal. Thanks for the review and for the informative commments!
Thank you so much for watching! GSM is very important! A lot of people don't know about it and are confused when a 110lb cardstock is lighter than an 80lb! Have a great rest of your day!
Of course! This is the Santa Frame stamp set from Stampendous. It is retired, but I store that I have shopped at before still has it! artplusnh.com/products/staclearsantaframestampset
I’ve heard great things about Accent Opaque, but I won’t be needing white cardstock anytime soon lol! Hammermill was on sale for about 20 dollars per ream of 11x17 (which is 2 reams of 8.5x11) and let’s just say I stocked up! I am set for the next few years! Thank you so much for watching!!!
You and me both. I absolutely hate it when my cardstock cracks. I tend to use lighter weight cardstock for scoring, but even that's not fool proof. Thank you for watching!
@@gabrielfuentes3678 ahh ok! That cardstock is perfectly fine for that! It may crack on the crease because of it’s weight, but otherwise it’s fine, keep using it!!!
I don't think this was a fair test. With the blending brushes you loaded the brush with a lot more ink before using it on the N. With the copics, you gave an extra final color with the 1st color (I think) to the N. With the stamping, I counted 10 times going over the stamp before stamping N & only 5 before stamping H. After that I stopped because the comparisons were so unequal. I'd probably buy the Hammermill paper as my regular "go to" just because of the savings & keep a small amount of Classic Crest on hand for special requirements.
I'm sorry that you didn't enjoy my video. The reason I didn't ink up the stamp or brush as much the second time is because there is a significant amount of residual ink left. Also, in regards to the copics, I did give both papers two coats of the lightest shade (R81). It was more noticeable with the Neenah because I paused inbetween the first and second coats because I almost forgot to do, but didn't pause with the Hammermill because I did remember. In the end, I did recommend the Hammermill and I stand by that. I do hope that you check out some of my other videos and I hope you enjoy them more! Have a great rest of your week and happy crafting!
What exactly are you comparing? This is really confusing because you are comparing the outcome of how two different surfaces react to ink when the actual difference between the two is the weight. Since there is a difference in how thick each cardstock is, there would barely be a difference in the reaction to ink on the surface unless it was a really toothy paper. Or watercolor paper. If you waited for a little time to pass one of the cards might absorb more than the other but that would not apply to this test. If you showed difference in cut and/or show each after being embossed there might be a minuscule difference. The real test is to show the flex of each paper because there is an actual difference. Just an observation.
Hi! I'm just comparing the performance of these different mediums on the two different papers. Different papers (no matter the weight) can greatly effect how these mediums preform. Sometimes Copics have a very dull look because of the paper or ink blending can cause paper to pill or peel. Since these are two of the most recommended cardstocks for crafting, I thought it would be good to see how different mediums preform on them! Hope that helps and have a good rest of your day!!!
I like seeing other crafters’ comments from your comparison demo. I learn a lot so it’s worth the read. Thanks for taking the time doing this demo! Great job. 👏🏻👏🏻🙏🏻👍🏼💖
I’m so happy that you enjoyed my video!!! Thank you so much for watching!
Only Hammermill and watercolor for me. I am not making cards for Hallmark. The everyday people we make cards for are genuinely happy and appreciative for the time i take to make handmade cards instead of running to the store to just pick one up. Thank you for your time to compare these products
You’re right, we’re better than Hallmark! Thank you for watching!
I use Neenah 110 cover mainly for my card bases but try to avoid using it for ink blending and other techniques as I find it pills. I do all my work on a panel first then attach to the base. I originally bought the Hammermill for hot foiling and it's stupendous for that but I also find it works well for ink blending and some other techniques that involve some moisture (not a lot). For heavy water use, I just switch to watercolor cardstock to avoid any issues.
That's good to know about the Neenah 110! I tend to use 90lb Neenah Index for mixed media. It takes my sprays pretty well!
Neenah pilling is a surprise - never had it happen in years of use. But maybe we use different inks and you work the blending harder (though I have a heavy hand).
@@bdk_creationsI’d never heard of Neenah pilling, especially not Neenah 110 cover.
@@bethjeans3780 That's because it does not exist! The Hammermill 110 lb is not a cover measurement, since the paper has a weight basis of 199 GSM. Only clueless people with nothing to compare with think that the 110 lb rating is 110 lb cover.
Great video, Brennan! Thanks for doing this and sharing your thoughts!👏👏👏
Thank you so much for watching! I hope you enjoyed it!!!
This was helpful. Thank you.
I'm so happy I could help! Thanks for watching!
It is no coincidence that I came across this post as I was just pricing Neenah 😳 and now that I’ve seen this post I have another option so Thank you.
I'm so happy that I was able to help you in deciding on what cardstock you're going to purchase! Thank you for watching and happy crafting!
They both look really good. Thank you for sharing😊
Thank you so much for watching! Happy crafting!
Great comparison! ❤
Thank you so much Charlene!
Thank you for this comparison. I bought hammermill mostly because of price and most people seemed to give it good reviews. I'm on a budget so I have to be careful. I always hear of people using the Neenah in videos, so I often wonder if it really is that much better. Now I know it doesn't make enough difference to me for what I do. I see some others commenting that the comparison wasn't accurate, but I really like this comparison. For me, it wasn't about them being exactly alike in weight or how many swipes or strokes you did. It was about comparing two of the most likely and commonly used cardstocks for making cards. I see and understand exactly what you did and I appreciate it.
I'm so happy that you found my video helpful! Happy crafting and I hope you enjoy your hammermill!
Would have also loved to see embossing folder on both! 😁 thanks for sharing ❤
I haven't used Hammermill with an embossing folder yet, but my best guess would be that the Neenah would work better because it's a lighter weight. I'll tell you later though once I test them!
You would probably need to spritz the back of the Hammermill for 3D folders to prevent cracking.
I personally like 100# or above you card bases and if it works great for coloring and blending that's a plus! I've used both of these in the past and my results were like yours-- very little difference. One thing I like about Hammermill is that I can get it in 11x17 and make 4 card bases from one sheet. Thanks for sharing.
It’s funny that you say that, I may have bought a whole box of 11x17 LOL! Thanks for watching!!!
Great job. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
I would have liked to see everything once all the ink has dried back, like a half and hour later. Also the Hammermill is a heavier card stock, so better for card bases.
Aww, sorry for not doing that.
Fun comparison! 80 vs. 100 lb. can make a bit of a difference too. So to compare apples to apples - just as you’ve done by making everything else the same - comparing gsm instead of lbs. would be ideal, since 80 lbs. of one cardstock vs. another can be quite different.
You're so right! I have 110lb cardstock that's lighter weight than the 80lb Neenah. The gsm for this Neenah is 216 and for the Hammermill it's 271!
@@bdk_creations and Neenah’s 110 Classic Crest gsm is 297. (Don’t get me started on people who buy Neenah at big box stores and buy Exact Index instead of Classic Crest and think it’s what card makers use, so wonder why anyone likes Neenah. Exact Index 80 pound is something like 118 gsm (don’t quote me, no time to look it up).
@@bethjeans3780 I use the 90 and 110lb exact index for mixed media and layering! The 90lb one actually does work pretty well with copics, but it's not my favorite because of it's weight.
Thanks for the comparison Brennan!!
I prefer Neenah 110lb Classic Crest card stock & I also use Hammermill and Accent 100lb.
Thanks for watching! I haven't used Accent Opaque yet but I probably will at some point in time!
@@bdk_creations It’s good inexpensive card stock, several crafters use it.
Try it if you want and see how you like it.
I like the look on the Hammermill better.
I do too! Thank you so much for watching!
The only time I splurge is if I'm adding water. Hammermill doesn't love water. I agree with you 100%
I actually use the 90lb exact index from Neenah for sprays and mixed media! It does warp a lot, but I've never had any major problems with it. The only reason I have it was because it was on sale for 6 bucks lol!
Does anyone use off-white card stock as the base of card? Which kind? What weight do you use? Any input much appreciated
I don’t personally use off white cardstock for my bases, however, I can recommend both Lawn Fawn and Hero Arts cardstock! They are a heavy weight that is amazing for bases, but they are expensive. I use Joann’s 110lb white cardstock for my bases, so you could check to see if they have off-white. I’ve heard good things about the 110lb cardstock from Michael’s too, but I’ve never used it. Hope this was helpful!
@@bdk_creations thank you!
Thank you for the comparison. I actually like the brighter look of the Hammermill ‘as is’ better than the Neenah and generally prefer working with 100 lb. weight card stock over 80, so performance and price aside, I’d probably choose Hammermill. I also think that familiarity with any product makes all the difference. The more you use something, the better you get at using it and the better the results. Have you tried the Accent brand?
I haven't worked with Accent cardstock yet. I've heard great things, but have yet to try it. Thank you for watching!
Another way to compare weights, is to refer to gsm. Grams per square metre. Think of it as thread count. I look at that too. Not all lbs of paper are equal. Thanks for the review and for the informative commments!
Thank you so much for watching! GSM is very important! A lot of people don't know about it and are confused when a 110lb cardstock is lighter than an 80lb! Have a great rest of your day!
Can you kindly tell the Santa stamp brand name? Thanks
Of course! This is the Santa Frame stamp set from Stampendous. It is retired, but I store that I have shopped at before still has it! artplusnh.com/products/staclearsantaframestampset
I like Accent Opaque white, 100 lb. , 271 gsm. Even cheaper than Hammermill. Try it!
I’ve heard great things about Accent Opaque, but I won’t be needing white cardstock anytime soon lol! Hammermill was on sale for about 20 dollars per ream of 11x17 (which is 2 reams of 8.5x11) and let’s just say I stocked up! I am set for the next few years! Thank you so much for watching!!!
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That Santa is so stinkin cute
I know! I love that set so much!
There is some cardstock with a white between, when I am scoring and I fold the cards you are seeing the white as a crack. I get pissed off
You and me both. I absolutely hate it when my cardstock cracks. I tend to use lighter weight cardstock for scoring, but even that's not fool proof. Thank you for watching!
You should also look at the back and see if there is any bleeding.
I did! The Hammermill bled through a little less, but neither would bleed onto a different surface unless you use tons of in! Thanks for watching!
On camera the hammer mill looks brighter/ whiter. Is that accurate?
That is accurate! The Neenah is already extremely bright and white but the Hammermill is slightly brighter and whiter!
You're an absolute cutie! I subscribed!😊
Aww, thank you! Happy crafting!
Here I am buying 180 weight paper from Michaels 😂
We all did it at some point 😂! What are you using it for?
@@bdk_creations making the actual card
@@gabrielfuentes3678 ahh ok! That cardstock is perfectly fine for that! It may crack on the crease because of it’s weight, but otherwise it’s fine, keep using it!!!
I don't think this was a fair test. With the blending brushes you loaded the brush with a lot more ink before using it on the N. With the copics, you gave an extra final color with the 1st color (I think) to the N. With the stamping, I counted 10 times going over the stamp before stamping N & only 5 before stamping H. After that I stopped because the comparisons were so unequal. I'd probably buy the Hammermill paper as my regular "go to" just because of the savings & keep a small amount of Classic Crest on hand for special requirements.
I'm sorry that you didn't enjoy my video. The reason I didn't ink up the stamp or brush as much the second time is because there is a significant amount of residual ink left. Also, in regards to the copics, I did give both papers two coats of the lightest shade (R81). It was more noticeable with the Neenah because I paused inbetween the first and second coats because I almost forgot to do, but didn't pause with the Hammermill because I did remember. In the end, I did recommend the Hammermill and I stand by that. I do hope that you check out some of my other videos and I hope you enjoy them more! Have a great rest of your week and happy crafting!
I use Hammermill for card bases, copic coloring, ink blending. Works for me and a fraction of the cost. Neenah is overpriced
Neenah is very pricey and the price is only going up. Thank you so much for watching my video!
What exactly are you comparing? This is really confusing because you are comparing the outcome of how two different surfaces react to ink when the actual difference between the two is the weight. Since there is a difference in how thick each cardstock is, there would barely be a difference in the reaction to ink on the surface unless it was a really toothy paper. Or watercolor paper. If you waited for a little time to pass one of the cards might absorb more than the other but that would not apply to this test. If you showed difference in cut and/or show each after being embossed there might be a minuscule difference. The real test is to show the flex of each paper because there is an actual difference. Just an observation.
Hi! I'm just comparing the performance of these different mediums on the two different papers. Different papers (no matter the weight) can greatly effect how these mediums preform. Sometimes Copics have a very dull look because of the paper or ink blending can cause paper to pill or peel. Since these are two of the most recommended cardstocks for crafting, I thought it would be good to see how different mediums preform on them! Hope that helps and have a good rest of your day!!!