China keep on insisting on history that has no legal basis. Fishermen from nations around that sea ventured in that area before, not only chinese. Indonesians, Malaysians, Vietnamese, Brunei and Filipinos were fishing in that sea long long time ago. It is only China that claimed they owned the entire sea. UNCLOS was approved and signed by almost all nations purposely to avoid misunderstanding among nations when it comes to territorial seas. But because of China's greediness they violated it. Peace and stability in the region will only achieve if China obey international law (UNCLOS).
Where and when did the Chinese so called 9 dashline was ever established and accepted by international order, even before the Spanish era and even before world war 2 or at least after world war 2 and the UN established, the EEZ established or UNCLOS established.
@@a27642487US is not a signatory of UNCLOS? What is your contention with the US? Did the US encroach any islands or shoals in the South East Asian countries?
You claim the Ching dynasty delineated a U-shaped map line showing sovergnty of most of the the south china sea. Please tell me where, what historical maps? Former Justice Carpio asserts that all historical maps of China, predating 1947 show Hunan as the southernmost part of china.
In both Ching and Ming dynasties China's boarder is demarcated by the province of Hainan as its most southern part of the country, never it mentioned that it owned the whole China Sea as defined in 9 dashed line claim.
The law is very important in all matters. The history is not important bcoz its very confused the people. For example just like we make boundary, that must use law to defend or protect your borders or lands taken by somebody freely. In that case, we need law of land from Land & Survey Dept. for get it grant . The same also in South China Sea dispute, that why the International Law must very important in that matter.
The treaty of Paris in 1898 then the Treaty of Washington in 1900 between the US and Spain gives clarity to the maritime zones. And in 1930 the treaty of Britain also clarified the Treaty of Washington.
ur argument is the history in 1947, before 1947 did you ever think the people in the philiipines is already fishing in that disputed islands? u cant compare ur 1947 history and the law that was established to respect the economic zone of each country. only issue her is that you have put bounderies and restrict pilipino fisherfolks to freely fish in the EEZ. ur just doing ur claims now because ur now one of the superpower. lets switch situations. philippines is the super power and ur not. are you ok that we claim the whole south china sea and put bounderies in your fisherfolks? disrespect the law of the sea? and watercannon ur chinese boats. what would you feel? i guess the same thing we are doing right now. reaching out other countries for support of our claims.
Hainan (Chinese: 海南; pinyin: About this sound Hǎinán (help·info) ; Hainanese: Hái-nâm; Jyutping: Hoi2 Naam4; literally: "South of the Sea [Qiongzhou Strait]") is the smallest and southernmost province of the People's Republic of China (PRC). The name "Hainan" also refers to Hainan Island (海南岛, Hǎinán Dǎo), the main island of the province. Hainan is located in the South China Sea, separated from Guangdong's Leizhou Peninsula to the north by the shallow and narrow Qiongzhou Strait. Hainan was part of Guangdong Province until 1988, when the island became part of the newly created Hainan Province (海南省, Hǎinán Shěng). The province has an area of 33,920 square kilometers (13,100 sq mi) and is China's southernmost province From: Wikimedia
You're not from the bullied country. That's very sure. How will you explain of China's dredging and degradation of eco and maritime system of the Phil. How about the infiltrators and spies Ang illegals and fugitives of China,. Eat your words man.
I hope that the South China Sea dispute can be settled as soon as possible. We Asian are peace loving people n we would like settled this in peaceful way. I think we can all solve this by more meetings n vote for the best solution. I hope US will not interfere in this matter as it will complicated matters.
Communist China if you want to make deal and talk to them they infliment their evil tactics of double standard,what I mean is what is been negotiated and talk is closed and both party agreed Communist China do not Follow it,in short explanation Communist China system is what they say is different of what they do,to gain big advantage on that negotiation..
Actually, it was President Estrada's term that the US started this idea of serioulsy provoking the Philippines to confront China. There was this agreement with the US called the Visiting Forces Agreement, which is a military strategy to have US warships in the Philippines in lieu of the abrogated Subic Naval Base and other military agreements. And then, it was also President Estrada's term that the rusty ship was put on shore. But then the actual provocation did not happen because he was ousted from the presidency via people power2. Sorry for Capt America. Then, came President Macapagal, an economist, who knows the hidden agenda of US, did not pursue the action to face China Reply
The UN must have a sanction on not recognizing the the dicesion they awarded , what are the sanction of the UN. For peace accords. They must issue a record to all the parties. So they must obey.
The Fil spkr failed to mention the treaty of Washington which validated the Phil owns the Spratlys,Scarborough,others which China informed the Arbitral Court it recognizes.Historical basis is the basis of China's claim,following that,China should return governance to Mongolia which originally dominate China.
If China wants to own the South China Sea, she should declare to the world that she supports similar claims by other countries, such as those bordering on the Pacific Ocean. If Japan claims she owns a thousand miles of the waters in the Pacific Ocean, China will support Japan's claim.
That is why you name every islets in chinese names then you call that as your own? you name south china sea it means you own it? You just tour to other places the places you step in is yours? according to yur History. you give gift to sultan the place you already purchase, is that your History?
it is "in accordance with law" that China will neither participate in nor accept a case at a UN arbitration court unilaterally initiated by the Philippines over disputes in the South China Sea. It added that the case lacks both legitimacy and justification. The Untied States and Japan are ignoring basic facts, making the groundless accusation, aiming to set China against neighbors. China has indisputable sovereignty over Nansha Island and adjacent waters, backed by historical and legal evidence. The construction on China's own territory is not against international law. Philippines' arbitration request is not meant to resolve disputes, but to negate China's right. The most important thing for international law is who defines the international law.
huy tú phạm The case you have mentioned is installed by the United States and idiots, It is not only beneath the International Law and norms, even more beneath the sensible level to discuss that if China will become the dominant power in Asia, because this case is a Pseudo-proposition to refute the rights of territories of China and it is far from the justification to joint the case.
if you say the lawcourt in The Hauge (Netherland) is not international law, so which one is international law? i went to many countries and people there they said that why China is one of 5 biggest member of United Nation and never follow the law. They have many map evidence prove that Paracel Islands and Spratly Islands are parts of Vietnam. On the other hand, the last torritory of China is Hainan island, nothing any more.
what is the truth here. The truth is China stole islands from other countries. You can travel to whole the world ask the people, nobody believe in China, i'm sure. I have some Chinese friends, actually, they are well educated and they do not believe your Government.
The third party is sleeping long time ago they must maintain the rules they decide, Hindi yong when they give decision, bahala na si batman senyo , batman is iconic character , UN has the responsibilities to act in accordance with their decision on ruling , patulog-tulog kayo sa pansitan. It is all on your fault you do not do what you do. You must be refresh, reconstruct, repormat. Even , update you cannot feed.
From china history of dynasties, no Chinese expedition reached the West Philippines Sea. The famous Chinese explorer Zheng He never ventured towards the Philippines. Chinese interest was to know more the developed culture of Europe. His successive expeditions were towards Europe. The Chinese have no interest with the archipelagic islanders on G-strings they consider lower culture. Therefore, china have no rights to claim the territory and intrude in the exclusive economic zone of the Philippines. All their interest is the oil and gas in the West Philippine Sea. The Chinese speaker is lying through his teeth.
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If drawing some lines on the map could determine sovereignty, then the Philippines should be allowed to own thousands of miles of the Pacific Ocean if it draws 9 dashes on her maps. Any other country may follow suit.
He has no basis of proving his people we’re fishing in those contested areas. “We think more communications”. “We people are peaceful people”. - Your (china’s) actions are contrary to your words. Facts of the matter is, China has been bullying its neighbors. The 3rd speaker makes more sense. The rule of law should prevail. If can’t be resolved by the disputing parties.
“That is a line demarcated by chinese government”. - huh? You’re making your own laws to encroach into your neighbors’ seas? Have you noticed the SEA nations’ reactions to how ridiculous you sound?
All of this chinese spokesperson is not on the topic,historical rights is the only things he only insisting, what the topic is the law to follow in the sea,non sense explanation..
China keep on insisting on history that has no legal basis. Fishermen from nations around that sea ventured in that area before, not only chinese. Indonesians, Malaysians, Vietnamese, Brunei and Filipinos were fishing in that sea long long time ago. It is only China that claimed they owned the entire sea. UNCLOS was approved and signed by almost all nations purposely to avoid misunderstanding among nations when it comes to territorial seas. But because of China's greediness they violated it. Peace and stability in the region will only achieve if China obey international law (UNCLOS).
The Vietnam man is a brilliant one
WHat can you do with the western designed law if we don’t follow?
Is watching Glory to God 🙏
Where and when did the Chinese so called 9 dashline was ever established and accepted by international order, even before the Spanish era and even before world war 2 or at least after world war 2 and the UN established, the EEZ established or UNCLOS established.
China's representative explanations of their nine dash line is hard to understand bec it is not in accordance with international law.
China will not listen to International Law
China insisted what there want, The important are WE/ or Everybody must follow the international Law, according to UNCLOS.
美國遵守了？
@@a27642487US is not a signatory of UNCLOS? What is your contention with the US? Did the US encroach any islands or shoals in the South East Asian countries?
You claim the Ching dynasty delineated a U-shaped map line showing sovergnty of most of the the south china sea. Please tell me where, what historical maps?
Former Justice Carpio asserts that all historical maps of China, predating 1947 show Hunan as the southernmost part of china.
If we follow China's logic Africa should own the whole world.
In both Ching and Ming dynasties China's boarder is demarcated by the province of Hainan as its most southern part of the country, never it mentioned that it owned the whole China Sea as defined in 9 dashed line claim.
The law is very important in all matters. The history is not important
bcoz its very confused the people.
For example just like we make boundary, that must use law to defend or protect your borders or
lands taken by somebody freely.
In that case, we need law of land
from Land & Survey Dept. for get it grant . The same also in South China Sea dispute, that why the
International Law must very important in that matter.
The treaty of Paris in 1898 then the Treaty of Washington in 1900 between the US and Spain gives clarity to the maritime zones. And in 1930 the treaty of Britain also clarified the Treaty of Washington.
ur argument is the history in 1947, before 1947 did you ever think the people in the philiipines is already fishing in that disputed islands? u cant compare ur 1947 history and the law that was established to respect the economic zone of each country. only issue her is that you have put bounderies and restrict pilipino fisherfolks to freely fish in the EEZ. ur just doing ur claims now because ur now one of the superpower. lets switch situations. philippines is the super power and ur not. are you ok that we claim the whole south china sea and put bounderies in your fisherfolks? disrespect the law of the sea? and watercannon ur chinese boats. what would you feel? i guess the same thing we are doing right now. reaching out other countries for support of our claims.
Good point from the Philippines representative.
Filipino has zero point!
@@boogieman4170 bad point for you.
@@boogieman4170CCP troll
Archipelagic Yes and Philippine is an Archipelago. Applying the core of conduct on maritime. Is there a stardard to operate?
I would like to hear the Philippines speak .
Good Question,,,, What is the meaning for understanding
Hainan (Chinese: 海南; pinyin: About this sound Hǎinán (help·info) ; Hainanese: Hái-nâm; Jyutping: Hoi2 Naam4; literally: "South of the Sea [Qiongzhou Strait]") is the smallest and southernmost province of the People's Republic of China (PRC). The name "Hainan" also refers to Hainan Island (海南岛, Hǎinán Dǎo), the main island of the province. Hainan is located in the South China Sea, separated from Guangdong's Leizhou Peninsula to the north by the shallow and narrow Qiongzhou Strait.
Hainan was part of Guangdong Province until 1988, when the island became part of the newly created Hainan Province (海南省, Hǎinán Shěng).
The province has an area of 33,920 square kilometers (13,100 sq mi) and is China's southernmost province
From: Wikimedia
You're not from the bullied country. That's very sure. How will you explain of China's dredging and degradation of eco and maritime system of the Phil. How about the infiltrators and spies Ang illegals and fugitives of China,. Eat your words man.
How to talk to a country who dont respect International Law.
Omg 😳! What happened to this man from Indonesia???
I hope that the South China Sea dispute can be settled as soon as possible. We Asian are peace loving people n we would like settled this in peaceful way. I think we can all solve this by more meetings n vote for the best solution. I hope US will not interfere in this matter as it will complicated matters.
Communist China if you want to make deal and talk to them they infliment their evil tactics of double standard,what I mean is what is been negotiated and talk is closed and both party agreed Communist China do not Follow it,in short explanation Communist China system is what they say is different of what they do,to gain big advantage on that negotiation..
Hahaha it is so hard to defend Chinese 9 dash line as it has no legal basis but a whim, i feel bad for the Chinese rep
your're out of context sir, i have no idea what exactly you are trying to explain.
Chinese rep is basically telling a fictional story
China is to far away you can see the map
Actually, it was President Estrada's term that the US started this idea of serioulsy provoking the Philippines to confront China. There was this agreement with the US called the Visiting Forces Agreement, which is a military strategy to have US warships in the Philippines in lieu of the abrogated Subic Naval Base and other military agreements. And then, it was also President Estrada's term that the rusty ship was put on shore. But then the actual provocation did not happen because he was ousted from the presidency via people power2. Sorry for Capt America. Then, came President Macapagal, an economist, who knows the hidden agenda of US, did not pursue the action to face China
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Very simple to resolve the problem if china respectfully the law of sea and sovereignty rights the neighbor countries No problem arises.
Good Job Sir.😊😊😊😊
Interesting discussions and Dialoque to claimant and non claimant.
The Indonesian speaker makes more sense in his response.
The UN must have a sanction on not recognizing the the dicesion they awarded , what are the sanction of the UN. For peace accords. They must issue a record to all the parties. So they must obey.
The Fil spkr failed to mention the treaty of Washington which validated the Phil owns the Spratlys,Scarborough,others which China informed the Arbitral Court it recognizes.Historical basis is the basis of China's claim,following that,China should return governance to Mongolia which originally dominate China.
Guns on the %ables meaning WILD WILD WEST OR GANGSTERISM..
If China wants to own the South China Sea, she should declare to the world that she supports similar claims by other countries, such as those bordering on the Pacific Ocean. If Japan claims she owns a thousand miles of the waters in the Pacific Ocean, China will support Japan's claim.
what happen to this Dr. here..his out of context.
Legality is all that matters not imaginary history before people exist
If history is the basis mongolia should claim all of china. Italy should claim all of europe. Thats the logic of chinas explanation
That is why you name every islets in chinese names then you call that as your own? you name south china sea it means you own it? You just tour to other places the places you step in is yours? according to yur History. you give gift to sultan the place you already purchase, is that your History?
Nus level big kos xdizine peling gi
Wonderful Indonesia.......
Claim south china sea make china as a common enemy in the region.....
+dragondescendant1 You need to consult a mental hospital for psychiatric ... I feel sorry for you and hopefully get well soon
+dragondescendant1 Thank you for your concern ... I appreciate the other perspective
Anis Faozan don't mention it.
Asean have to unite, be careful with China lie
it is "in accordance with law" that China will neither participate in nor accept a case at a UN arbitration court unilaterally initiated by the Philippines over disputes in the South China Sea. It added that the case lacks both legitimacy and justification.
The Untied States and Japan are ignoring basic facts, making the groundless accusation, aiming to set China against neighbors. China has indisputable sovereignty over Nansha Island and adjacent waters, backed by historical and legal evidence. The construction on China's own territory is not against international law. Philippines' arbitration request is not meant to resolve disputes, but to negate China's right. The most important thing for international law is who defines the international law.
in fact, does china dare to join the court with Phillipine?
huy tú phạm The case you have mentioned is installed by the United States and idiots, It is not only beneath the International Law and norms, even more beneath the sensible level to discuss that if China will become the dominant power in Asia, because this case is a Pseudo-proposition to refute the rights of territories of China and it is far from the justification to joint the case.
if you say the lawcourt in The Hauge (Netherland) is not international law, so which one is international law? i went to many countries and people there they said that why China is one of 5 biggest member of United Nation and never follow the law. They have many map evidence prove that Paracel Islands and Spratly Islands are parts of Vietnam. On the other hand, the last torritory of China is Hainan island, nothing any more.
huy tú phạm This is the question you should go back to school starting from grade one to learn more so that you can tell the truth.
what is the truth here. The truth is China stole islands from other countries. You can travel to whole the world ask the people, nobody believe in China, i'm sure. I have some Chinese friends, actually, they are well educated and they do not believe your Government.
Spratly is belong to Philippines why you say to drill in it? stick to your own EEZ. it is called west Philippines SEA.
The third party is sleeping long time ago they must maintain the rules they decide, Hindi yong when they give decision, bahala na si batman senyo , batman is iconic character , UN has the responsibilities to act in accordance with their decision on ruling , patulog-tulog kayo sa pansitan. It is all on your fault you do not do what you do. You must be refresh, reconstruct, repormat. Even , update you cannot feed.
The look on the Filipino’s face say’s it all- all I hear is Bs and blah blah blah from the Chinese rep. 😂
One of the Chinese narratives..... as if only the Chinese knows early fishing. You must be dreaming....
The Indonesian audience who spoke on raising hard issues with china especially, make a good question.
China has big problem because of large population they need more place territory to feed and accomodate their people period.
This Chinese rep is like the drunk guy in a wedding.
May komitis i 🙋🏻
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%100
Modern World Times, let’s apply UNCLOS … not ancient Laws.
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China knows their history and wants other to study and know them. why Study the history of other country and consider them.
As if china don't respect the international law. China is the law. If the law is against china its not a law. If it favors china then its the law😅😅
3yami my nento
From china history of dynasties, no Chinese expedition reached the West Philippines Sea. The famous Chinese explorer Zheng He never ventured towards the Philippines. Chinese interest was to know more the developed culture of Europe. His successive expeditions were towards Europe. The Chinese have no interest with the archipelagic islanders on G-strings they consider lower culture. Therefore, china have no rights to claim the territory and intrude in the exclusive economic zone of the Philippines. All their interest is the oil and gas in the West Philippine Sea. The Chinese speaker is lying through his teeth.
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Technology and greed and power violates territories
maybe this dr. is drunk....forgive me!..
sulu sea
China has the technology to Make rock habitable and grow plants !
So you mean man made island?, bad for the marine life.
Your history has no legal basis. and of course you can create your own History to obligate your claim.
philippines is the best
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china cannot defend the legal status of the 9 dash line lol.
Talk to my hand
If drawing some lines on the map could determine sovereignty, then the Philippines should be allowed to own thousands of miles of the Pacific Ocean if it draws 9 dashes on her maps. Any other country may follow suit.
@@legpol correct… well said. China needs to reverse its absurd stand regarding the area.
Do. most female prostitutes are comments are not Hurd.
Philippines the best!
NO
Just go back to your own Chinese historical maps and you will know the answer. Don't be a storyteller to amaze your audience....
He has no basis of proving his people we’re fishing in those contested areas. “We think more communications”. “We people are peaceful people”. - Your (china’s) actions are contrary to your words. Facts of the matter is, China has been bullying its neighbors. The 3rd speaker makes more sense. The rule of law should prevail. If can’t be resolved by the disputing parties.
“That is a line demarcated by chinese government”. - huh? You’re making your own laws to encroach into your neighbors’ seas? Have you noticed the SEA nations’ reactions to how ridiculous you sound?
you said you been doing that for 20 years....c mon...tell that to china first...seems you dont know what you're talk8ng about...telll that to china!!
china always wanted a divided ASEAN nation....🙄😏🙄😏
All of this chinese spokesperson is not on the topic,historical rights is the only things he only insisting, what the topic is the law to follow in the sea,non sense explanation..