I own a Daystate redwolf .22 HP and it took me 2 years of messing with it, testing when I had the time, and a hand full of things that needed to be addressed to finally love the gun. Heli board, resizing my slugs to 5.50, pellets to 5.53. This gun is a laser with the right slugs and it shoots slugs better than pellets. My golden ticket is the Griffin 26 grain dish base anywhere from 860 to 940fps, Absolute laser. But one category that I think is as important as anything is wieldability. I have a very hard time shouldering the wolf with a bipod and sidewinder and silencer. I can outshoot it from the shoulder with my springers. I hate having something so universal, as in being a do it all gun now with the 12-power setting that you can tune to your own power levels, relegated to the bench. It's my biggest gripe with it, and it's something I need to work on. It's just heavy with all the doodads, plus a 580 bottle doesn't help. It took a lot of testing, but I can shoot just about anything well at the right speeds, and the heliboard is the only way this gun makes any sense to purchase. The 3 power levels sound appealing but it's unbelievably limiting. The HP on low, stock, because the newer HP's use the safari program, 65ft lbs, it shot the 18 grainers at 1040fps, so you can just about forget anything lighter, and it works well on a flat calm day but any wind and that speed plays havoc on your accuracy when it comes to pellets, it's the nature of the beast. I'm a very big fan of transition to slugs and this wolf loves the NSA 17.5 slugs, and the knockouts, HNs, I mean I have all the FPE categories covered with superior BC and accuracy. I have a much different opinion about this gun than I did when I was trying to shoot pellets, stock. It's a hell of a shooter and I think the way it's chambered and the poly ART barrel, is exactly what makes it such a great slug gun. Look at the profile and you will see it looks exactly like the smooth twist slug liners accept it's a Lothar Walther masterpiece. I'm not going to wright a novel, but if anyone is interested in the issues I had that I was able to rectify myself I will gladly reply. I also wanted to add that there isn't a ton of information or videos about this gun and slug shooting. You need to resize you slugs for uniformity and to match what you gun wants. It's becoming more common knowledge and Matt Dubber is a great resource for this information as well but it's a fact that 1 thousandth can make all the difference when it comes to slugs, and I can personally confirm this as well as the Friend I shoot with, also a poly barrel, non ART version, that it makes all the difference. It won't make all slugs work but the ones that do it's the final touch, and then the fliers disappear, and the groups are what you paid for in the first place. Don't give up, because I was so close to using this gun as a bat a few times.
Thanks for all the information. Also thanks for watching. My red hps have been the most accurate guns i have ever owned. I mean out of the box with JSB knockouts I am getting MOA which is pretty darn good for just putting in the slug and shooting on med to high power.
@@ShootingTargets727 No reason to argue with that at all. I shoot them very well at 840fps. My data shows the stock board shot them at 910fps on medium, but again, I had the safari program stock so not sure if you do too. I would highly recommend giving the griffins a try, sub moa is nothing to shake a stick at and no reason to change, but if for nothing else they do offer a better BC, .089 in the 26-grain dish base. I'm not trying to sell anything and I have no affiliation with anything either, I just haven't found anything that shoots better than them and my friends Brocock seems to say the same thing. Thanks for the video and I haven't owned an FX gun, but there is an awful compelling list of reasons to.
Accurate assessment of these guns. I begged Daystate for information on the Delta Wolf. They blamed Covid. I told them I understood the problems with production, but why no information, which could easily be provided from home under Covid restrictions, any where in the world? I am 5'6", I weigh 125#, for me FX all the way. They are MUCH more responsive to their customers, provide much more information in their Masterclass series than Daystate does, there are way more aftermarket parts, and are more tune-able by the average user. Most of us know how to adjust mechanical guns. How many can address firmware/programming issues, of which there were plenty in the initial batch of Delta Wolves, and yes I owned one in .30. Another issue usually skipped over on the Daystates, is battery life and waterproofing, and the obvious hassles of charging. The Delta Wolf has WAY less battery life than the Redwolf. There is no comparison between the two. After 2 attempts to repair my Delta Wolf, it went back for credit only. Jared Clark was the only person at the dealer handling the Delta Wolf, and in the many times I called him, I never was able to talk to him or get him to help me with my issues. He was clearly untrained and overwhelmed. The dealer was great, the product is not. In the case of the Redwolf, if you opt for the Heliboard which adds the flexibility that Daystate chose not to, you void your warranty. If/when Daystate changes its way of doing business, I may try another, but at this point, I would not.
Carl, I hear you. I would have returned my rifle as well but i was waiting for upgrades and it was too late. I am digging into this gun probably going to put up videos on tuning and changing equipment ect. Stay tuned also thanks for watching.
Daystate have terrible customer service and very poor communication skills. It’s like they think they’re the maclaren of the Airgun world. Being arrogant and hard to get hold of is a sign of superiority some how.
viking thanks for watching. Yea, i just subscribed I been watching your channel for a bit now FYI. I had a subscribe under another channel LOL ! Keep making content. Thanks again.
It is bizarre with all the electronics in the Delta and now Alpha Wolf - no Bluetooth phone app support - WTF! If The Alpha is the most advanced, then why no App Support? - I own an Alpha Wolf Safari, an FX Impact M3, and an FX Panthera Compact... As a left-handed shooter, I purposely chose the DayState Alpha and FX Panthera; both are entirely (almost for FX) Ambi. A downside to Daystate is that they charge $140.00 for a programming cable - what a slap in the face after spending $3500.00. An upside to Daystate is a 5-year warranty vs. 3 for an FX.
as a general gun for someone wanting to shoot a daystate revere in 22 with 18.13 pellets will shoot one hole at 30 yds under a nickel at 50 all day and 30 shots or a few more at around 29ft lbs consistantly for plinking hunting all day and will outshoot almost any 22 lr out to 50 yds it will outshoot my cz and ruger custom target at 50yds all day
I owned 2 Delta Wolf .30 cal. The first one was poor in the power but did his job, the second had a leaking battery and after 3 months was broken...! Try here to read these experience before buying. - Daystate had a changing of dealership in the Netherlands (where i live), and they hadden enough time to repair my gun (maybe because i didn’t buy it from them). - After more than 3 months, decided to write to Daystate to explain the all situation and a poor warranty that the new dealer offers in this case. Rachel Flint (Director of Daystate) wrote me back that she was getting information from the dealer. - The dealer never answer my phone calls and Rachel didn't give a consisted warranty and that i was looked after by them. - The ex Dealer where i bought my gun, couldn’t help me direct with this repair (they can't get the parts from England) BUT they give a another Delta Wolf. This new rifle was also defect and not consistent this the regulated air. 2 of 3 guns with issues: NICE QUALITY CONTROL AS THE WARRANTY...! This video give more clarity about another option in place of Daystate, THANK!! and I wish you the best with your channel. Kind regards from the Holland, J.C.
Thanks for chiming in.... yep, i know here in the USA daystate has a 5 year warranty to my understanding. Airgun warranties are always a bit weird or a bit frustrating to say the least.
@@ShootingTargets727 For what an airgun costs to buy...any airgun....and what it costs to manufacture...not to mention along with the massive mark up...there should always be support for the product imo 24-7-365 especially when your paying 3K+.
Hi friend, to be honest, as a rugged rifle, would you recommend the Daystate Delta Wolf, red Wolf better than the FX Impact?? I watch a lot of videos of difficulties breakage of parts, parts that cost quite a lot, it stops me from buying the FX, greetings.
The delta wolf has a 5 year warranty that is pretty good. So my understanding is if it leaks they will fix it. AOA does the repairs. I have called them and they sent me an extra battery for the delta wolf so far I would say Daystate.
Easy choice. For the price of daystate impact, you can buy two Mavericks and still have enough ($) left over to buy a riflescope and pellets our slugs.
@@ShootingTargets727 A maverick compact 1,199 and a vp 1,275 and the sniper 1,649€. Just do the math.... the compact plus the vp plus an element optics NEXUS (1349€ )scope is 3824.... A little more than the Daystate...
Hello teacher, thank you very much for giving your favorable opinion about the Daystate Delta Wolf and recommending it to me, money hurts if then a carbine that should logically be the best and safest in resistance and comfort begins to fail, thank you, I am registered to your channel, and a great like👍
I have had a Huben wood 22 for over a year and have had no issues with it. However, I have had my FX Impact M3 sniper 700mm 22 for over two months and the o-ring on the regulator one requires changing constantly. If I leave the fx tank with air it blows the small o-ring on the black-coloured piston. Do you have any advice? Thank you so much.
The only think I can suggest it to talk with FX service. It appears that there might be more going on with your rifle than a few simple things. New air tanks, components ect. Wish I could be more help... Again thanks for watching.
If you took the top three place winners from all the big target shooting championships (Rocky mountain airgun , Arizona airgun ,all the world class championships) since the 1990's which manufacturer has the most wins ? Give 1st place winners a 3 , second places a 2 and third placers a 1 who has the most points .?
Hi, THANK YOU! for the comparison and information sharing, where I live, one can have one gun, and ONE only (full firearm license needed, it takes years to get one if any at all), that said, if it is one gun only (NO after market parts or modification allowed, and it been tested and verified once a year) which one would you go with? thank you for your support.
Thanks for watching. So you are under some serious restrictions and I feel for you on that one ! If I had a choice, I would do more research into which airgun really fits your needs. I cannot answer this specifically for you but just off the top of my head, I would want a really reliable air gun that needs very little fixing or maintenance. There is the Daystate RedWolf that many say are nice air rifles and need very little fixing. To be honest under your air gun restrictions do as much research as possible for easy of maintenance and reliability. I hope this helps !
@@ShootingTargets727 Thank you for your time, there are not many option for PCP, it is FX impact, Red wolf, Delta wolf or BSA BSA R-10, I don't think the BSA is in the same league though, so it is down to Daystate or FX , (currently own Diana 350 magnum .22 springer, and I got approval to replace it, yes, replace not add.....
@@ShootingTargets727 I was thinking accuracy and potentially some focus on the thin and wobbly liners vs solid barrels and traditional vs the FX take on rifling. In my view it is only an issue when shooting high power with slugs, but more and more of us want to do that these days so it is a major consideration.
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They both have their problems. I've owned only one FX and will never ever get another. I've owned 7 daystates and currently own 3 a redwolf a delta wolf and a Alpha wolf . Had problems with delta wolf was sent back to daystate and returned to me in 6 days helps when you live about 50miles away from factory . Problem fixed and really enjoy shooting it .
Sorry missed your comment ! Yes totally agree I really like Daystate and again they have their issues. I do not mean to bash on any airgun company it is more of a constructive criticism effort to keep them still in the game.
Nice! Both are very good. As with any thing made by a human, can get a defect any purchase. I own both and Air Arms too. I always seem to pick up my Air Arms and don't know why 😮 but choosing the air rifle for the owner and it's use is a big part. As for me and many others, just like to shoot an own many different models😂😂😂
Neither, because they're made to shoot paper with pellets unless you spend an additional $400 on a different barrel for FX to shoot slugs😞 AEA has stepped up and is dominating with sluggers at a very reasonable price😂👍
@@ShootingTargets727 I purchased an FX Impact M3 in February of this year because of all the hype surrounding it, only to find out that it wouldn't shoot slugs straight. I told the guy from the beginning that i wanted it for hunting and that i would be using slugs and he said i "should be" fine, but i wasn't fine because he lied😂 So after speaking to someone else at their store, i was told that i would have to spend another $400 for a different barrel on top of the $2375 that i spent on the gun if i wanted to shoot slugs😡 Man that really heated me up because i was thinking that these FX guns were the bee's knees like all those people hyped them up to be, but i was wrong and should've gone with my first intuition that was telling me that it was all hype. So i then purchased an AEA Challenger Pro for $800 and this thing is a beast! It's super accurate and powerful, I'm getting quarter sized groups at 100 yards shooting 65gn NSA slugs, and it shoots pellets and slugs very well. I see that those FX guns are made to shoot at slower speeds at paper at those paper shooting game's😞 It's like golf how they charge $300 to $1000 for a golf club just for the sake of the "high profile" sport just to mentally say that club is better because it costs more, when you can buy a golf club for $40 dollars and get the same results if not better😂 I haven't owned a Dastate so i can't say that they can't shoot slugs, but i can say that my AEA is better than my FX👍
@@catherineharris4746 ahh yea, I went through the same thing to a certain extent. One of the reasons for this channel it so displel or at least clear up confusion. I get your confusion. The fx guns stock shoot the hybrid slugs pretty good. But, they are much lighter than say SLUGS for real slug guns that the older guns shoot. The old day slugs guns would shoot slugs at 40 grain plus but needed tons of air and power. This has come down some, but a true slug gun gets way less shots but has much more power. Again that is why you see alot of marketing towards brand and much confusion. Hopefully I can address some of this in future videos. As far as the daystate in stock form it is NOT a slug gun but shoots light slugs very well. My .177 shot .8 inch groups at 115 yards of course no wind but only generating 20 FPE . True slugs guns are shooting 80FPE plus. Anyway hope this helps and will look into the AEA Challenger. What caliber were you shooting ?
i will say if you buy a fz dreamline they all come with the ultra light barrel set up and every time you pick it up the poi will be different very much so useless
FX hands down, can't get any spares for daystate, they copied the barrels off FX, no aftermarket stuff, cant easily chip daystate computer, deltawolf blatant copy of impact
What parts from the Daystate copy the FX? What you suggest is like saying the CZ Bren 2 is a knock off of an AR15. Someone would be ignorant, in the true sense of the word, to believe it. Where is the electronic package on the FX? It’s the heart of the electronic move Daystate has made in MANY of its offerings - FX where are you? FX groves on screws, knobs and springs. FX where is your onboard chrono? I love digital repeatability vs how many screw turns - it’s awesome and it’s the future. Please have a basis for your assessments in the future, thank you. By the way, Daystate’s roll out and support of their digital rifles pretty much suck, they’ve really flubbed it. PR has been a total loss.
I own a Daystate redwolf .22 HP and it took me 2 years of messing with it, testing when I had the time, and a hand full of things that needed to be addressed to finally love the gun. Heli board, resizing my slugs to 5.50, pellets to 5.53. This gun is a laser with the right slugs and it shoots slugs better than pellets. My golden ticket is the Griffin 26 grain dish base anywhere from 860 to 940fps, Absolute laser. But one category that I think is as important as anything is wieldability. I have a very hard time shouldering the wolf with a bipod and sidewinder and silencer. I can outshoot it from the shoulder with my springers. I hate having something so universal, as in being a do it all gun now with the 12-power setting that you can tune to your own power levels, relegated to the bench. It's my biggest gripe with it, and it's something I need to work on. It's just heavy with all the doodads, plus a 580 bottle doesn't help. It took a lot of testing, but I can shoot just about anything well at the right speeds, and the heliboard is the only way this gun makes any sense to purchase. The 3 power levels sound appealing but it's unbelievably limiting. The HP on low, stock, because the newer HP's use the safari program, 65ft lbs, it shot the 18 grainers at 1040fps, so you can just about forget anything lighter, and it works well on a flat calm day but any wind and that speed plays havoc on your accuracy when it comes to pellets, it's the nature of the beast. I'm a very big fan of transition to slugs and this wolf loves the NSA 17.5 slugs, and the knockouts, HNs, I mean I have all the FPE categories covered with superior BC and accuracy. I have a much different opinion about this gun than I did when I was trying to shoot pellets, stock. It's a hell of a shooter and I think the way it's chambered and the poly ART barrel, is exactly what makes it such a great slug gun. Look at the profile and you will see it looks exactly like the smooth twist slug liners accept it's a Lothar Walther masterpiece. I'm not going to wright a novel, but if anyone is interested in the issues I had that I was able to rectify myself I will gladly reply. I also wanted to add that there isn't a ton of information or videos about this gun and slug shooting. You need to resize you slugs for uniformity and to match what you gun wants. It's becoming more common knowledge and Matt Dubber is a great resource for this information as well but it's a fact that 1 thousandth can make all the difference when it comes to slugs, and I can personally confirm this as well as the Friend I shoot with, also a poly barrel, non ART version, that it makes all the difference. It won't make all slugs work but the ones that do it's the final touch, and then the fliers disappear, and the groups are what you paid for in the first place. Don't give up, because I was so close to using this gun as a bat a few times.
Thanks for all the information. Also thanks for watching. My red hps have been the most accurate guns i have ever owned. I mean out of the box with JSB knockouts I am getting MOA which is pretty darn good for just putting in the slug and shooting on med to high power.
@@ShootingTargets727 No reason to argue with that at all. I shoot them very well at 840fps. My data shows the stock board shot them at 910fps on medium, but again, I had the safari program stock so not sure if you do too. I would highly recommend giving the griffins a try, sub moa is nothing to shake a stick at and no reason to change, but if for nothing else they do offer a better BC, .089 in the 26-grain dish base. I'm not trying to sell anything and I have no affiliation with anything either, I just haven't found anything that shoots better than them and my friends Brocock seems to say the same thing. Thanks for the video and I haven't owned an FX gun, but there is an awful compelling list of reasons to.
@@ravenshield7823 Thanks for the info on the griffins. I will give them a try......
Accurate assessment of these guns. I begged Daystate for information on the Delta Wolf. They blamed Covid. I told them I understood the problems with production, but why no information, which could easily be provided from home under Covid restrictions, any where in the world? I am 5'6", I weigh 125#, for me FX all the way. They are MUCH more responsive to their customers, provide much more information in their Masterclass series than Daystate does, there are way more aftermarket parts, and are more tune-able by the average user. Most of us know how to adjust mechanical guns. How many can address firmware/programming issues, of which there were plenty in the initial batch of Delta Wolves, and yes I owned one in .30. Another issue usually skipped over on the Daystates, is battery life and waterproofing, and the obvious hassles of charging. The Delta Wolf has WAY less battery life than the Redwolf. There is no comparison between the two. After 2 attempts to repair my Delta Wolf, it went back for credit only. Jared Clark was the only person at the dealer handling the Delta Wolf, and in the many times I called him, I never was able to talk to him or get him to help me with my issues. He was clearly untrained and overwhelmed. The dealer was great, the product is not. In the case of the Redwolf, if you opt for the Heliboard which adds the flexibility that Daystate chose not to, you void your warranty. If/when Daystate changes its way of doing business, I may try another, but at this point, I would not.
Carl, I hear you. I would have returned my rifle as well but i was waiting for upgrades and it was too late. I am digging into this gun probably going to put up videos on tuning and changing equipment ect. Stay tuned also thanks for watching.
Daystate have terrible customer service and very poor communication skills. It’s like they think they’re the maclaren of the Airgun world. Being arrogant and hard to get hold of is a sign of superiority some how.
How nice to see an honest review from someone who is not religious about just one off the brands and an obvious hater of the other.
Well done!
viking thanks for watching. Yea, i just subscribed I been watching your channel for a bit now FYI. I had a subscribe under another channel LOL ! Keep making content. Thanks again.
It is bizarre with all the electronics in the Delta and now Alpha Wolf - no Bluetooth phone app support - WTF! If The Alpha is the most advanced, then why no App Support?
- I own an Alpha Wolf Safari, an FX Impact M3, and an FX Panthera Compact... As a left-handed shooter, I purposely chose the DayState Alpha and FX Panthera; both are entirely (almost for FX) Ambi.
A downside to Daystate is that they charge $140.00 for a programming cable - what a slap in the face after spending $3500.00.
An upside to Daystate is a 5-year warranty vs. 3 for an FX.
Yep, as advanced as they are I am still like hey guys WTH ??
as a general gun for someone wanting to shoot a daystate revere in 22 with 18.13 pellets will shoot one hole at 30 yds under a nickel at 50 all day and 30 shots or a few more at around 29ft lbs consistantly for plinking hunting all day and will outshoot almost any 22 lr out to 50 yds it will outshoot my cz and ruger custom target at 50yds all day
you are right you can find a disassembly video of any fx but almost none for daystate
lol, this comment got past me thanks for the reply....
Turn your volume up please.
Will do thanks for the advice...
I owned 2 Delta Wolf .30 cal. The first one was poor in the power but did his job, the second had a leaking battery and after 3 months was broken...! Try here to read these experience before buying.
- Daystate had a changing of dealership in the Netherlands (where i live), and they hadden enough time to repair my gun (maybe because i didn’t buy it from them).
- After more than 3 months, decided to write to Daystate to explain the all situation and a poor warranty that the new dealer offers in this case. Rachel Flint (Director of Daystate) wrote me back that she was getting information from the dealer.
- The dealer never answer my phone calls and Rachel didn't give a consisted warranty and that i was looked after by them.
- The ex Dealer where i bought my gun, couldn’t help me direct with this repair (they can't get the parts from England) BUT they give a another Delta Wolf. This new rifle was also defect and not consistent this the regulated air. 2 of 3 guns with issues: NICE QUALITY CONTROL AS THE WARRANTY...!
This video give more clarity about another option in place of Daystate, THANK!! and I wish you the best with your channel.
Kind regards from the Holland,
J.C.
Thanks for chiming in.... yep, i know here in the USA daystate has a 5 year warranty to my understanding. Airgun warranties are always a bit weird or a bit frustrating to say the least.
@@ShootingTargets727 For what an airgun costs to buy...any airgun....and what it costs to manufacture...not to mention along with the massive mark up...there should always be support for the product imo 24-7-365 especially when your paying 3K+.
Thoroughly informative comparison, great video!
Dieter thanks for watching, the kind words and the sub.....
Nice video mate, have been thinking about the FXM3 or the ALPHA WOLF. You have made my mind up buddy, FX THANKS AGAIN.
Thanks again for watching!
I come here to get the truth. Thank you for sharing your honest experience and opinions.
Thank you for watching !
Awesome production on both guns my friend. Really impressive buddy.
You bet thanks for watching !
Hi friend, to be honest, as a rugged rifle, would you recommend the Daystate Delta Wolf, red Wolf better than the FX Impact?? I watch a lot of videos of difficulties breakage of parts, parts that cost quite a lot, it stops me from buying the FX, greetings.
The delta wolf has a 5 year warranty that is pretty good. So my understanding is if it leaks they will fix it. AOA does the repairs. I have called them and they sent me an extra battery for the delta wolf so far I would say Daystate.
Easy choice. For the price of daystate impact, you can buy two Mavericks and still have enough ($) left over to buy a riflescope and pellets our slugs.
ohh man you had to go there !!!!! LOL
@@ShootingTargets727 A maverick compact 1,199 and a vp 1,275 and the sniper 1,649€. Just do the math.... the compact plus the vp plus an element optics NEXUS (1349€ )scope is 3824.... A little more than the Daystate...
Fx / daystate Both are very good gun👍👍
Yes indeed. Thanks for watching !
Hello teacher, thank you very much for giving your favorable opinion about the Daystate Delta Wolf and recommending it to me, money hurts if then a carbine that should logically be the best and safest in resistance and comfort begins to fail, thank you, I am registered to your channel, and a great like👍
ohh yea thanks for watching ...
also the sub...
I have had a Huben wood 22 for over a year and have had no issues with it. However, I have had my FX Impact M3 sniper 700mm 22 for over two months and the o-ring on the regulator one requires changing constantly. If I leave the fx tank with air it blows the small o-ring on the black-coloured piston. Do you have any advice? Thank you so much.
The only think I can suggest it to talk with FX service. It appears that there might be more going on with your rifle than a few simple things. New air tanks, components ect. Wish I could be more help... Again thanks for watching.
Try Walther LG400, Anschutz 9015, Steyr LG110... just once and you will consider Daystate and FX as toy producers.
I like those types of rifles. Really looking for a high power version hmmmmm. Also thanks for watching and commenting.
If you took the top three place winners from all the big target shooting championships (Rocky mountain airgun , Arizona airgun ,all the world class championships) since the 1990's which manufacturer has the most wins ? Give 1st place winners a 3 , second places a 2 and third placers a 1 who has the most points .?
Hmm , curious on that as well ? Thanks for watching !
Neither because they are both massively overpriced !
I cant disagree with that very very expensive.
In my humble opinion, neither go for the Huben K1
Hi, THANK YOU! for the comparison and information sharing, where I live, one can have one gun, and ONE only (full firearm license needed, it takes years to get one if any at all), that said, if it is one gun only (NO after market parts or modification allowed, and it been tested and verified once a year) which one would you go with? thank you for your support.
Thanks for watching. So you are under some serious restrictions and I feel for you on that one ! If I had a choice, I would do more research into which airgun really fits your needs. I cannot answer this specifically for you but just off the top of my head, I would want a really reliable air gun that needs very little fixing or maintenance. There is the Daystate RedWolf that many say are nice air rifles and need very little fixing. To be honest under your air gun restrictions do as much research as possible for easy of maintenance and reliability. I hope this helps !
@@ShootingTargets727 Thank you for your time, there are not many option for PCP, it is FX impact, Red wolf, Delta wolf or BSA BSA R-10, I don't think the BSA is in the same league though, so it is down to Daystate or FX , (currently own Diana 350 magnum .22 springer, and I got approval to replace it, yes, replace not add.....
@@moshikvano87 ahh i get it. Daystate is a very nice option if you can afford it !
@@moshikvano87 Hello, I hope you went for the Daystate...
Price. The FX impact m3 and delta walf its same price or not
Yea, delta is super pricey..........
Why are peeps wanting to shoot slugs for seems the pellets will fly better i domt get whst the point is to shoot slugs
ahh I have a video on that one... Slugs VS Pellets... Hope you watch it multiple reasons. One very big one is in windy areas slugs are more accurate.
@@ShootingTargets727 I will definitely watch that video
Nice information vidoe
Thanks again for watching.
Alot of issues with this format.Maybe when they have a gen3 version,then I will consider.I will stick to fx for now.
Yep, it is finally getting flushed out now but at first it was rough. ... Thanks for watching and the sub.
Love from India.
How about a rating on the quality of the barrels?
Very Good Point …. What are you thinking bore scope ? Accuracy ? Both or more ? I am open for ideas ?
@@ShootingTargets727 I was thinking accuracy and potentially some focus on the thin and wobbly liners vs solid barrels and traditional vs the FX take on rifling. In my view it is only an issue when shooting high power with slugs, but more and more of us want to do that these days so it is a major consideration.
@@sambaaxe ahh so in shooting slug hey ? I might have a video coming out on why shooting slugs suck LOL ! Many things to unravel and frustrating.
@@ShootingTargets727 Some folks love em and some hate them. I have had reasonably good luck with my Crown, but I like pushing limits.
@@sambaaxe ohh yea.... Thanks for watching !
You didn’t cover customer service, who is better?
ahhh dang I knew I left something out. hmmm that is a tough one....
Yeah I think it’s a important one. 😊
nice video but the volume is low ...
Yea, I noticed that once the video was released. Thanks for watching and hopefully will be fixed on other videos.
I just ordered a red wolf hp in walnut. Hope I made the right choice.
Hope it works out for you !
Hi mr am Karim from algeria, ,,nice démonstration and reely and many thanks for your advice your words its simple and raisonnable
Question is haw you estimate cricket tactical 2 60 wtc ,,,of caurse if you teste it befor ,,,pls continue to enrich us and we suport you always ,,,enjoy your life health peace prosperity
Need a better tutorial on Daystate
They both have their problems. I've owned only one FX and will never ever get another. I've owned 7 daystates and currently own 3 a redwolf a delta wolf and a Alpha wolf . Had problems with delta wolf was sent back to daystate and returned to me in 6 days helps when you live about 50miles away from factory . Problem fixed and really enjoy shooting it .
Sorry missed your comment ! Yes totally agree I really like Daystate and again they have their issues. I do not mean to bash on any airgun company it is more of a constructive criticism effort to keep them still in the game.
Also thanks for watching !
Nice! Both are very good. As with any thing made by a human, can get a defect any purchase. I own both and Air Arms too. I always seem to pick up my Air Arms and don't know why 😮 but choosing the air rifle for the owner and it's use is a big part. As for me and many others, just like to shoot an own many different models😂😂😂
no doubt and thanks for watching !
Neither, because they're made to shoot paper with pellets unless you spend an additional $400 on a different barrel for FX to shoot slugs😞 AEA has stepped up and is dominating with sluggers at a very reasonable price😂👍
Interesting , what slug rifle would you suggest ?
@@ShootingTargets727 I purchased an FX Impact M3 in February of this year because of all the hype surrounding it, only to find out that it wouldn't shoot slugs straight. I told the guy from the beginning that i wanted it for hunting and that i would be using slugs and he said i "should be" fine, but i wasn't fine because he lied😂 So after speaking to someone else at their store, i was told that i would have to spend another $400 for a different barrel on top of the $2375 that i spent on the gun if i wanted to shoot slugs😡 Man that really heated me up because i was thinking that these FX guns were the bee's knees like all those people hyped them up to be, but i was wrong and should've gone with my first intuition that was telling me that it was all hype. So i then purchased an AEA Challenger Pro for $800 and this thing is a beast! It's super accurate and powerful, I'm getting quarter sized groups at 100 yards shooting 65gn NSA slugs, and it shoots pellets and slugs very well. I see that those FX guns are made to shoot at slower speeds at paper at those paper shooting game's😞 It's like golf how they charge $300 to $1000 for a golf club just for the sake of the "high profile" sport just to mentally say that club is better because it costs more, when you can buy a golf club for $40 dollars and get the same results if not better😂 I haven't owned a Dastate so i can't say that they can't shoot slugs, but i can say that my AEA is better than my FX👍
@@catherineharris4746 ahh yea, I went through the same thing to a certain extent. One of the reasons for this channel it so displel or at least clear up confusion. I get your confusion. The fx guns stock shoot the hybrid slugs pretty good. But, they are much lighter than say SLUGS for real slug guns that the older guns shoot. The old day slugs guns would shoot slugs at 40 grain plus but needed tons of air and power. This has come down some, but a true slug gun gets way less shots but has much more power. Again that is why you see alot of marketing towards brand and much confusion. Hopefully I can address some of this in future videos. As far as the daystate in stock form it is NOT a slug gun but shoots light slugs very well. My .177 shot .8 inch groups at 115 yards of course no wind but only generating 20 FPE . True slugs guns are shooting 80FPE plus. Anyway hope this helps and will look into the AEA Challenger. What caliber were you shooting ?
@@ShootingTargets727 I have both .30 cal and .357 cal AEA guns, and a .30 cal FX.
@@catherineharris4746 thanks and researching …
i will say if you buy a fz dreamline they all come with the ultra light barrel set up and every time you pick it up the poi will be different very much so useless
good to know !!! Thanks for watching also ...
Sub 12 daystate..fac then fx
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Yep that should be fixed in the next video ! Stay tuned....
Totally agreed fx best
I think their hideous and too costly.
FX hands down, can't get any spares for daystate, they copied the barrels off FX, no aftermarket stuff, cant easily chip daystate computer, deltawolf blatant copy of impact
What parts from the Daystate copy the FX? What you suggest is like saying the CZ Bren 2 is a knock off of an AR15. Someone would be ignorant, in the true sense of the word, to believe it.
Where is the electronic package on the FX? It’s the heart of the electronic move Daystate has made in MANY of its offerings - FX where are you? FX groves on screws, knobs and springs. FX where is your onboard chrono? I love digital repeatability vs how many screw turns - it’s awesome and it’s the future.
Please have a basis for your assessments in the future, thank you.
By the way, Daystate’s roll out and support of their digital rifles pretty much suck, they’ve really flubbed it. PR has been a total loss.
fx cant compete with daystate but you are probably biased
I am open to anything actually, but thanks for watching.