@@Evilestwendy Both Walz and Vance agreed that they would support each other if the other one won, and that it is important to American democracy to be able to have a civil discussion with the other side and see their points. As someone coming into this expecting one to wipe the floor with the other, I was pleasantly surprised to see both candidates make good points. I hope you can learn to look at the other side with a more open mind. (Regardless of which side you come from)
@@henrycasillas1638 The only caveat, is that I question how much someone loves our country, if they say that they would have refused to certify the last election. That goes against the core institutions that make our country great.
Vote Trumpand Vance. We're going to need these people during the Dockside strike. May have to see empty shelves again at the grocery store. Thanks to the democratic party.
not really. vance is a former lawyer, he's literally trained to make persuasive arguments. but as a politician, he has no duty to make logically consistent or factually based arguments.
It really would be, and the candidates themselves. Put Joe Rogan, Trump and Harris down for the most epic podcast ever, and have them actually debate policies deeply instead of screaming on 1minute catch phrases.
@@lukekiefer5964 I also watched the Trump Harris debate. Americans face the choice between chaos with a 78 year old lying utterly selfish vengeful buffon who idiolises dictators versus sustainable growth with patriotic democracy. What are you voting for?
After the display of corruption on national tv, anyone that associates with harris campaign will be treated as a traitor to their country.. because that is what it is. Pierod. Thats how america is looking at this.
Vance was great but waltz the self described knucklehead who is friends with school shooters and can't remember what conluntry he was in in 1989 was pretty awful.
Agreed. Trump and Harris are jokes. It should've been Vance vs Walz for the presidency. We need people who actually have brains to resolve our national issues
Unfortunately, the opposite is true for Trump. He would never admit he was wrong about something. I wish Vance was the presidential candidate instead of Trump.
@@JasonTaylor-po5xc I agree with this but luckily if Trump wins we’ll only have him for 4 short years and that will make Vance the front runner for the 2028 election
@@JasonTaylor-po5xc I’m not a republican at all but I sure wish trump wasn’t on the ballot. Honestly Vance or Vivek would have made excellent candidates that while I wouldn’t vote for, would do a fine job for this country
@@The_Ginger7 What did Vance admit he was wrong about? He lied about practically every topic he was questioned on. He was a good liar, but still a liar
you're half right .. Trump makes everything a rambling fear Circus .. Honestly worst president ever no experience Pence would've been a better Presidential nominee at least he's experienced and smart
@@Maliceking bro firstly this is my second language. Obviously i know that "can not" should be shortend to can't. Now how many languages do you speak fluently?
well trump has offered to debate kamala on any podcast shed like, but democrats dont want that. they need their "fact checkers" aka cheer leader media,they can't have a fair debate. then they turn around and say kamala doesn't wana go on fox news cause that would be unfair
I doubt that this VP debate will change many minds of people whom have already made up their minds on whom they will cast their vote. However, it appeared Vance was much more knowledgable on many topics than Walz. Walz seem to hammer on Trump more often than expected. It also appeared to me that Trump/Vance was the encumbent rather than Harris/Walz from a presidential perspective. I don't think neither debater won/lost the debate. However, if I were to grade their performance it would be: Vance B+ and Walz C-. On the flip side, I personally think VP vs VP debates are of less importance and meaningless at times than having the actual presidential candidate on the stage. Since there's only one President and one Commander-in-Chief, it would be more constructive and advantageous for the public's benefit to have 3 debates as follows: (P) president candidate; (VP) vice-president; 1 debate; P vs P and 2 debates; VP vs P from each party. For example, Trump vs Harris debate; Vance vs Harris debate; Walz vs Trump debate.
I just want to say, this was an EXCELLENT debate. Tears are coming to my eyes seeing civility, acknowledgment of the opponent's valid points, and a general air of affability & decorum. I feel like I’m in the America I grew up in again. MORE OF THIS!! Both did a great job!! 👏🏻
I think the candidates did well. It was very nice to see. I would have preferred better questions by the moderators and more professional behavior. That mic cut moment was tilted, gross and unethical.
Wow - tears? doesn't take much then.. The Moderators were biased, disgusting and 3-on-1 again = how PATHETIC, Tim Walz was embarrassing throughout - a total cringe fest. Vance was only one who WON HANDS DOWN here with decorum, dignity & professionalism.
@@joey1335lol get that alt left conspiracy out of here, that’s been disproven, fake quote someone pulled outta their rear end and you guys ran with it because you don’t do your research. Sheep 😂
@@Jhtbruh I know y’all maga nuts don’t read, but it’s in his book. Plus I wouldn’t talk about conspiracy when y’all be talking about lizard ppl and weather machines. I’ve seen some of y’all say hurricane Helene was caused by a machine, y’all are weird.
Tim Walz's closing statement: Taylor Swift likes me. JD Vance's closing statement: America is the greatest country in the world and we have a plan to make it better.
@@ObjectionHearsay His closing statement wasn’t just “Taylor Swift likes me”, she was used as a very quick namedrop because he’s aware of her influence. They both really say the same closing statement nearing the end.
Every time after JD makes a point, they gave walz a chance to respond immediately. Every time after walz says something, they ask JD another question so that he wouldn't have enough time to respond to what Tim said. Thank God JD is too smart to fall in to their trap.
The news channels alway lie about trump and vance which is why people should do research. You would vote for trump and Vance if you knew the truth about kamala and Tim. Trump and Vance are for the American people and our freedom. That's exactly why I'm voting for them.
Ehh they weren’t too bad in this, I watched the whole thing through. Maybe a few times where they unfairly challenged JD compared to Tim, but wayy better moderation than the usual mainstream media biases.
Disgusting, vile propaganda mouthpieces. These are the same people Tulsi Gabbard talked about who get invited to rub elbows with CEO’s, congressmen, etc… “journalists” should not be entrenched with businessmen and politicians.
Agreed. They lob gotcha questions at Vance, but not Walz. The bias is obvious. Harris was the border czar, despite the media pretending she wasn't. The fact they didn't ask Walz about Harris and the border is obvious bias.
Mr. Vance, I want to say it was a lot like you growing up my mother had an addiction issue and blamed it all on my dad. I know exactly where you're going from. My dad actually ended up getting full custody over us one year right before Christmas actually because of my mother hitting rock-bottom fully and I'm so glad he did that so I know the struggles that you faced. It wasn't easy seeing a parent having to go through that when her job is supposed to protect you as well as a father would be. You are a good person, Mr. Vance. I hope to see you in the White House along with Donald Trump. Thank you for doing what you are doing and I pray that you and Mr. Trump win the election. Also I appreciate your service and sacrifice for serving for the US. I'm grateful for you returning home. Don't listen to the idiots who hate you and Donald Trump I don't hate you. Or Trump. Glad to have people like you around.
The smirk on Nora Robert's face when she silenced Vance as he showed Walz was lying and they were covering for him about the immigration app, is all you need to see.
The Primary ROLE of the Moderators is the Facilitiate the Debate Between the Candidates, ENFORCE the RULES & Provide the Candidates with the OPPORTUNITY to FACT CHECK “Claims” Made by Each other CBS News “Reserve the RIGHT” to Mute the Candidates Microphones to Maintain “Decorum”
He brings it up because they're clear examples of his leadership, decisions and policies he's backing and their measurable positive impact on the state. If you run a store so well maybe you could improve a whole chain? It makes perfect sense.
Because from the debate we learned that they’re using the fact that ONLY the last 2 months of trumps presidency the crossings were just as high as they are now. It’s a play on words and a bunch of Bullcrap because for the rest of Trump’s presidency, we had the lowest crossings in decades!
@@rudolftrost3534he answered all the questions. Specifically when referring to the storms and climate change he essentially stated that it is a known fact that the US has the most restrictions and is the cleanest on how waste can be eliminated. Unfortunately more and more American jobs are going overseas where they do not have restrictions like we do. So more pollutants are going to into the environment. A way to fix it is for us to make our own things. Granted we can’t control how other countries choose to run their factories but if the factory is specifically for American goods then it needs to be over here so we can stop pollution on our end. And that was a phenomenal answer. As I black woman I’m voting Trump Vance 2024.
@@rudolftrost3534rewatch the first 8 mins he answers the very first question. You clearly are heavily bias. Please put your pride aside and do your duty to the American people and vote with a honest/fair heart.
What they don’t tell you is the first home buyers $25,000 is only for 1st generation home buyers ! So if your parents own you don’t qualify! So again for illegals ?
@@dhenderson1810 exactly. So when he said rent is down in Minnesota by a % he was lying. No landlords have lowered any type of housing for rent in general in MN, nor are housing prices or cost of living in MN down any percent for housing in general. So why he even said something in regards to this, was just for the sake of exaggeration or embellishment. Vance did not say anything other than the need to lower housing costs and the cost of living, ect. ect. So Waltz lied about MN, and your right who cares what side he is on. He lied. That is what I said.
I gotta admit.. I didn’t get at first why Trump chose Vance as VP running mate. But the more he speaks, the more he grows on me. And this debate sealed the deal for me. He is such a smart, intelligent, sharp & cool guy. I see a bright future ahead of him.. Trump/Vance 2024 ❤
And noticed how much more time ABC news wanted to linger on what they though was republicans weakest issues Abortion and Healthcare but Vance was too slick and kept his composure the entire time.
Well that's what happens when you prepare and do the debate prep. People forget about Debate teams in HS. That used to be a thing. You have to work at it.
@@hellothere4599 I must admit, it was nice to finally see a competent Republican on stage for the first time in forever. This would be a more interesting race if he were at the top of the ticket, instead of boring vindictive Trump.
He lied the whole time. We shouldn’t want someone slick we should want the truth. I don’t understand what people see in JDV and Trump, y’all is not rich on here so if they win we lose.
@@liquidrimeI’m republican and I would agree with you here. As a country we are too emotional in our decision making. I’m not saying get rid of all emotions, because it’s good to have emotions on some topics. But when emotions completely take over than we “scream and never listen” to the facts. I see this problem on both sides recently. The moderators were fair in this one I thought.
@@blayzeonAlso doesnt mean the “fact checking” is true 😂. Ever notice how no democratic candidate has been fact checked in a single debate? You really think theyre that infallible? Kamala Harris, who routinely stumbles on interviews, among other things, and Walz who is like 100 years old? Completely perfect? Thats insane.
Temporary legal status unbiased moderator snidely replies to VP Vance candidate “ thank you senator for describing the legal process” to get illegal immigrants legal via an app? WTH ???
You should really read about the thing he talked about instead of taking his word for it. He massively oversimplifies and misrepresents it to make it sound worse. It's standard fearmongering. CBP One facilitates legal processes. Applicants have to be screened. It doesn't just freely grant legal or asylum status.
then go watch them talk separately on their own time without the media involved? they have to have regulation if they’re hosting the debate, don’t be dense
I like the diplomacy towards each other, the agreement on opposing policies, and standing their ground with diplomacy when they disagree. Very refreshing debate.
@@Strategic_Reformer Really? You've never heard men called rude? I think you need to get out more then. Hell, even if you're just into politics, Trump gets called rude all the time.
@@brendaeakins5556 who new that having a spine as a journalist would make people dislike you? Shame neither of them do since they're paid for by oil and didn't say GHG's cause climate change...
Thank Obama. All of the economic trends that continued under Trump began under him. If you disagree, then tell me. What exactly did Trump do, to help the economy when he was in office? I don't recall him doing much of anything, except the deficit spending he did for that one tax cut.
Prices are high, but they are lower than when trump was in office. Lumber is much lower than it was under trump. Groceries are also lower. I had to pay $8 for a dozen store brand eggs. I'm now paying $3 for that same brand. My food budget can actually stretch the month now where as under trump, I had at least a weeks worth of days out of the month where I had to go without food at all because things were so expensive. I had to go to food pantries just to make sure I had at least enough for my son to eat. Thank God for free breakfast and lunch at school so he could eat.
To answer that question; Harris/Walz are in favor of regulating corporations' ability to price gouge on household necessities/groceries; something that they have been provably doing since the pandemic. Prices *did not* return to baseline after the supply chain issues resolved, all-the-while corporations have seen record profits. They *are* price gouging. Trump/Vance are in favor of further *deregulating* the corporate sector - as well as defunding consumer safety organizations. Trump/Vance also support a blanket tariff on Chinese imports, but with corporations *relying* on Chinese imports, that cost will simply be passed to consumers in order to maintain profits, *IN ADDITION* to an increase in sales tax, which will disproportionately effect lower and middle class families. Harris/Walz, on the other hand, want to increase tax revenue by ensuring the rich pay their fair share. In part through the implementation of a tax on unrealized capital gains. You may question whether or not that sounds fair, however unrealized capital gains can be weighted as collateral when securing financial loans, creating a tax-loophole for the ultra-wealthy. This loophole should be closed, and UCGs should be taxed accordingly. As for the money we've given to foreign countries, in Ukraine, that 'money' has taken the form of military stock. Surplus weapons and munitions- which were _already_ in the process of being replaced. But more to your point, Biden/Harris had (in 2021) authorized the investment of $1.2 trillion, into stateside infrastructure. Meanwhile, Trump/Pence stifled our initial response to the pandemic in 2020- *and* denied California federal assistance during the 2020 wildfires, all the while authorizing tax cuts for the ultra-rich. Now, I in no way take issue with you posing the question- However to me, the answer is obvious.
@@ofui24 You need to put the drugs down. Every single section is higher under Biden and Harris. Trump had the low prices and high quality of life. Please put the drugs down and touch grass once in a while.
Tim is a sweet well meaning old man for the most part, but he stands for weak and illogical policies. We need strength and we need robust policies. Vance is incredible. Trump 2024.
The lady in pink is interfering with this debate and after watching it again you can tell Mr Vance won this debate because the lady in pink did not stay neutral according to the rules also if you look at the debate between Trump and Kamala she was the same woman who interfered with asking different questions unscripted to word Trump and then being disrespectful to Trump and she she will reap what she sews and she is called as many sorrows and I asked that she reaped many sorrows
Of course it feels unfair when Vance is the only one not listening to instructions/rules and thus the only one getting slapped with a reminder of them/the enforcement of them. Kind of weird to assume he won because he wasn’t following instructions 🤡🤡🤡
@blayzeon look at 1:09:10. They gave Waltz extra time to answer when they previously cut JD off. Then, they had the audacity to cut off JD as soon as he was going to answer back. Obvious bias.
TRP - the Temporary Resident Permit - came from the crisis in Haiti after the earthquake in 2010. It was meant for humanitarian rescue after a geological disaster. Now, it's being used to legalize a short cut to the immigration process.
@@calebcruz2812What makes you think as wages have been stagnant for decades and automation decreases the need for manual labor that importing MILLIONS of unskilled laborers is a good thing? Historically in the past when immigration increased it was because of a need for labor. That need is no longer there.
Peace is a relative thing. A society rife with poverty and inequality or eun by a dictatorial regime is ahedly peaceful in its roots. Literally, there has nwver been peace in the planet due to human nature. Trump's idea of peace is to just give the aggressor what he wants to appease him. He wanted to turn Palestinians into citizens of modern day Bantustans instead of proposing a really peaceful coexistence with Jewish people.
@@europeanamerican7658 So Trump is so great at being a dictator he had to run again in a democratic process in order to be elected again to be a dictator? You see how brainwashed you sound? Dictators cannot be removed from power via normal processes…
He outright said let’s study what’s going on and make an informed decision/look at other countries with large gun populations but minimal violence for their solutions. It’s logical and reasonable. I understand people’s arguments for unrestricted access and the ability to fight government tyranny/a majority of gun owners are responsible gun owners whether they’re enthusiasts (AR15 owners) or just needing protection. So while I understand one sides viewpoint, I personally think it’s entirely possible to have it both ways even if it does make it slightly more inconvenient. BUT, once again, I do understand the fear of the government using that restriction as a means to control people. So truthfully it comes down to trust in government. I wouldn’t fear a policy like that with a trustworthy government (I wouldn’t with 100% confidence say a Harris government is trustworthy) With one like a trump government(you might say Harris or democrat etc), I would fear it’s weapon used to disarm opponents as trump has a history of trying to enforce his viewpoint with muscle rather than listening to both sides. Should be obvious, the first part is what he said, the parts after are my personal opinion.
Ultimately, any policy that is effective at stopping people from obtaining illegal guns will necessitate making it at least slightly harder for normal people to obtain legal guns. Those two things are directly linked. You can't have one without the other. If you want totally unrestricted access to legal firearms, that's fine. But you do have to acknowledge that one of the tradeoffs will be making guns easy to obtain for criminals. You can say that's a trade-off you're willing to accept, but don't pretend it's a trade-off you don't have to make
@@Bertinator-nm9ld I pretty clearly stated exactly what you’re saying. Specifically about there’s way to allow people to get whatever firearm they want, but it would make it slightly more convenient. But there’s also a caveat that a corrupt government could weaponize that policy. So the true question is trust in government.
Shame on the moderators. Making a deceptive "fact-check" despite the rules being that they would not fact-check, then muting mics when they get called out on their deception. Disgraceful!
@@stenadpackadfullochhog622 By citing certain facts but omitting others. Lies by omission are still lies. As we saw in this debate, the fact checks omitted crucial information when talking about the Haitian migrants being legal.
@jamessisoutham1466 it's just bidens plan but with more taxes. You really want that? If you do go for it but I think most people wnt real change and had better lives under trump
Fantastic word salads from Tim Walz, he completely dodged the question regarding Tiananmen Square, and gave a full salad record of his life history instead 😂
Meanwhile, you fail to recognize that Vance has been dodging each and every question by the very same method, starting with his pathetic attempt to promote his his own autobiography right at the beginning of this Q&A ... 🤦♂
he learned that from kamala. "kamala what are you going to do to close the border" "well my grandma used to say a pickle aint a porkchop if the cat and singing hhahahahahhaha when i was a girl i had a paper route..."
The two ladies from cbs are a disgrace. The way they are speaking to Vance, shows they don’t have a clue how to temper themselves. CBS bias strikes again with their passive aggressive tones
This is probably the best debate I have ever listened to! They actually are debating and providing new information and explaining things! I wish we could pick these two to just run the country....
If he says 'hey look' one more time... This was a disaster for Walz. Before this I was going to vote for him, but saying he's made friends with school shooters!!!. Wayyyyy past the line dude. I'll now vote for Trump.
Because MAGA is not the GOP. MAGA is an extremist right wing organisation planning for dictatorship in dividing the people and the world. Money men at work. Nothing else. Without MAGA it would no be necessary to moderate properly like this. Bring back the Grand Old Party. As you where.
Cutting the mic was for fighting, but they cut the mic because Vance was right. Now this is a rely to a question because someone asked what was actually on in Springfield, "Biden lied that the Haitian were being whipped at the boarder, this wasn't happening. They made it up and gave all the Haitians temporary status, they weren't vetted and they moved to Springfield because there was a small migrant population because the old mayor made a law to bring in migrants because the town was declining in population. This was ten years ago and many of them were from Mexico, but they came here legally and aren't the issue. The Haitian are illegally driving and on the wrong side of the road. Several people have been injured, an 11 year old boy and one pedestrian were killed. These were different incidents and the 71 year old woman who was killed didn't get any justice. they didn't even sight the man for having expired tags." What I've learned since this was posted on instagram as a reply to a question is that Harris and Biden actually flew them in under perfected status. The hospitals in Springfield are overrun, people are being run out of their homes and the car accidents are happening at 4 times the rate. When they were flying in people the Cuban's were being starved by their government and were told if they had been caught over the boarder they would be sent back. Why fly in one country and send back another?
The VP's are more presidential than the actual candidates lol
Only ONE of them, be for real.
One is, one is not!
@@Evilestwendybot
I concur
@@Evilestwendy Both Walz and Vance agreed that they would support each other if the other one won, and that it is important to American democracy to be able to have a civil discussion with the other side and see their points. As someone coming into this expecting one to wipe the floor with the other, I was pleasantly surprised to see both candidates make good points. I hope you can learn to look at the other side with a more open mind. (Regardless of which side you come from)
This was refreshing for me. I’ve hated this political season but this is the most appropriate debate in years.
Maybe there's still hope for things going back to normal, after Trump is finally gone
Yes, they respect eachother as opponents that both love our country.
@@henrycasillas1638 The only caveat, is that I question how much someone loves our country, if they say that they would have refused to certify the last election. That goes against the core institutions that make our country great.
Vote Trumpand Vance. We're going to need these people during the Dockside strike. May have to see empty shelves again at the grocery store. Thanks to the democratic party.
@@Bertinator-nm9ldso what's normal for you? The Communist totalitarianism government of harris?
I don't think so.
2:40 Israel/Foreign War
10:15 Hurricane Helene/Climate Change
17:35 Border Crisis/Immigration
28:39 Economy
37:53 Leadership Qualities
43:50 Reproductive Rights
54:32 Gun Legislation
1:01:30 Inflation/Housing Prices
1:09:52 Healthcare Cost
1:16:53 Childcare/Paid Family Leave
1:24:50 Democracy/Transfer of Power
1:34:46 Closing Statements
thank you so much
Thanks homie
0:00 - 1:39:30 CBS doing the best to hide the truth
Thank you
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You could tell that Vance is used to being grilled by the media and Walz isn’t . Walz lack of interviews really showed.
Vance debates better and will always be a better public speaker but Walz has a better hand at the political system and how it works.
not really. vance is a former lawyer, he's literally trained to make persuasive arguments. but as a politician, he has no duty to make logically consistent or factually based arguments.
Am I the only one who would just love to watch a debate between Vance and Harris before the election?
He would tear her apart with her terrible track record and lies every time her mouth opens. You have to watch leftist media to believe her.
Me too
Harris would have got smoked
It would destroy Harris’s campaign 😂
Why? She would respond the same way her running mate is. With common sense and fact checking.
The way she was smirking when she said, "No one can hear you because your mics are cut."
We heard.
Those women were so biased against Vance. Disgusting
Yeah, we actually did hear. Thank you for making the moderators' mics so sensitive!
they muted walz mic too, republicans just look for anything to cry about like in the presidential debate
@@Whopper83cry or not, Vance clearly won the debate lol, he made Walz switch up his whole gameplan and imitate him trying to be respectful
@@barb2793Nothing more disgusting than trump and vance themselves haha
The VPs did great. I’d be interested in having these two sit down together for a podcast/conversation and leave the moderators out of it.
If Walz loses when he's 3vs1, what do you think will happen in a 1vs1 ??
@@youuuuuuuuuuutubeYou’re pretty delusional, eh?
@@blayzeon Wow you seem really inteligent.
It really would be, and the candidates themselves. Put Joe Rogan, Trump and Harris down for the most epic podcast ever, and have them actually debate policies deeply instead of screaming on 1minute catch phrases.
He wouldn't/couldn't even answer the first question
JD Vance is the man we need as the next VP. He's smart, polished, professional💯
But he's not truthful and dodges questions constantly. Focus on the facts.
He is smooth liar.
@@julianwright6012what debate did you watch?
@@lukekiefer5964 I also watched the Trump Harris debate. Americans face the choice between chaos with a 78 year old lying utterly selfish vengeful buffon who idiolises dictators versus sustainable growth with patriotic democracy. What are you voting for?
Lmao, "we cut your mic no one can hear you"..... um, except we totally could
yes thank you Vance for explaining the legal process to become a legal resident of this country
After the display of corruption on national tv, anyone that associates with harris campaign will be treated as a traitor to their country.. because that is what it is. Pierod. Thats how america is looking at this.
totally thought the same thing LMAO!
😂😂
Vance is weird!! Kamala said!
Embarrassing job by CBS moderators. Great job by both VP candidates
Vance was great but waltz the self described knucklehead who is friends with school shooters and can't remember what conluntry he was in in 1989 was pretty awful.
Both??? You mean Vance
@@egb6322at this point, being respectful and coherent is a good debate. These are both Americans at the end of the day. Take some perspective.
Agreed. Trump and Harris are jokes. It should've been Vance vs Walz for the presidency. We need people who actually have brains to resolve our national issues
Both? " Friends w school shooters"? You tool.
Vance actually answered the questions and admitted that he was wrong at points. That's the kind of man that should be in office
They want to twist the "facts" in their fact checks. JD Vance set all three them straight.
Unfortunately, the opposite is true for Trump. He would never admit he was wrong about something. I wish Vance was the presidential candidate instead of Trump.
@@JasonTaylor-po5xc I agree with this but luckily if Trump wins we’ll only have him for 4 short years and that will make Vance the front runner for the 2028 election
@@JasonTaylor-po5xc I’m not a republican at all but I sure wish trump wasn’t on the ballot. Honestly Vance or Vivek would have made excellent candidates that while I wouldn’t vote for, would do a fine job for this country
@@The_Ginger7 What did Vance admit he was wrong about? He lied about practically every topic he was questioned on. He was a good liar, but still a liar
They cut his mic cause he was speaking the truth. Definitely Voting Trump now 👍
This looked more like a presidential debate than the actual presidential debate.
you're half right .. Trump makes everything a rambling fear Circus .. Honestly worst president ever no experience Pence would've been a better Presidential nominee at least he's experienced and smart
Yeah, because tRump wasn’t present 🫡
Kamela cant even talk😂@@414jackie
@@-_-naab-_-And you can’t spell, genius.
@@Maliceking bro firstly this is my second language. Obviously i know that "can not" should be shortend to can't. Now how many languages do you speak fluently?
Our media is making it obvious a new debate format is needed.
Truthfully there hasn’t been a real presidential debate in many, many years. These are political infomercials.
well trump has offered to debate kamala on any podcast shed like, but democrats dont want that. they need their "fact checkers" aka cheer leader media,they can't have a fair debate.
then they turn around and say kamala doesn't wana go on fox news cause that would be unfair
I doubt that this VP debate will change many minds of people whom have already made up their minds on whom they will cast their vote. However, it appeared Vance was much more knowledgable on many topics than Walz. Walz seem to hammer on Trump more often than expected. It also appeared to me that Trump/Vance was the encumbent rather than Harris/Walz from a presidential perspective. I don't think neither debater won/lost the debate. However, if I were to grade their performance it would be: Vance B+ and Walz C-. On the flip side, I personally think VP vs VP debates are of less importance and meaningless at times than having the actual presidential candidate on the stage. Since there's only one President and one Commander-in-Chief, it would be more constructive and advantageous for the public's benefit to have 3 debates as follows: (P) president candidate; (VP) vice-president; 1 debate; P vs P and 2 debates; VP vs P from each party. For example, Trump vs Harris debate; Vance vs Harris debate; Walz vs Trump debate.
The format is intentionally in order to keep American minds corralled within a certain framework.
Tucker should have been moderating the debate or some other Neutral Party should be doing it.
This debate was actually really good. I feel we got way more out of this debate than the actual presidential debate.
Yes!
Word.
Except the moderators were absolute trash activists. What a joke
yea only thing we got more from the presidential debate was memes😅
Damn! Jd Vance is so good and so true.
He doesn't seem kind of shady?
@@d.k.s.5919no? Kamala and Tim are more shady and corrupt than any running president in history.
I just want to say, this was an EXCELLENT debate.
Tears are coming to my eyes seeing civility, acknowledgment of the opponent's valid points, and a general air of affability & decorum. I feel like I’m in the America I grew up in again. MORE OF THIS!! Both did a great job!! 👏🏻
I think the candidates did well. It was very nice to see. I would have preferred better questions by the moderators and more professional behavior. That mic cut moment was tilted, gross and unethical.
this indeed is refreshing to see ❤
But you saw the corrupt propagandists at SeeBS on full display, which is really disgusting.
Wow - tears? doesn't take much then.. The Moderators were biased, disgusting and 3-on-1 again = how PATHETIC, Tim Walz was embarrassing throughout - a total cringe fest. Vance was only one who WON HANDS DOWN here with decorum, dignity & professionalism.
@@kazzer115cry.
I questioned why Trump chose Vance as his running mate. I knew nothing about him. I gotta say that I'm impressed, and i see why now.
He boinks couches, man ur expectations are low
@@joey1335lol get that alt left conspiracy out of here, that’s been disproven, fake quote someone pulled outta their rear end and you guys ran with it because you don’t do your research. Sheep 😂
@@Jhtbruh I know y’all maga nuts don’t read, but it’s in his book. Plus I wouldn’t talk about conspiracy when y’all be talking about lizard ppl and weather machines. I’ve seen some of y’all say hurricane Helene was caused by a machine, y’all are weird.
@@joey1335 Dumbest talking point ever. thanks for showing your IQ
@@JhtbruhThe left is beyond helping, at least the majority on that side.
Nice to see two debaters who don’t aim to dehumanize their opponents. Moderators still have some work to do to be less partisan
No, the moderators did their job, lies and disinformation are a cancer to democracy in the US and democracies around the world.
100 percent! 🎯
But yet Timmy boy say tr... How many times? The man's nuts.
What debate did you watch? Tim couldn’t get Trumps name out of his mouth.
@@karmadog4565 how many times did vanny say Harris? Mans nuts
Tim Walz's closing statement: Taylor Swift likes me.
JD Vance's closing statement: America is the greatest country in the world and we have a plan to make it better.
If this is your main takeaway I don't think you watched the whole debate.
@@aaron6290 Definitely not my main takeaway. It's just something I noticed along with a few others. They had a great debate. 👍
@@ObjectionHearsay His closing statement wasn’t just “Taylor Swift likes me”, she was used as a very quick namedrop because he’s aware of her influence. They both really say the same closing statement nearing the end.
@@aaron6290 Yep, you're right.
@@ObjectionHearsay can’t tell if you’re being serious but I’m glad you care about the country for watching this debate 👍
I gotta say JD Vance did a phenomenal job on this one.
im having 2nd thoughts about not voting trump i really like Vance
@@alexanderkejmar6291If your not voting for Trump by now, then you're either ignorant about the issues or you've been grossly misinformed 😢
@@thetruepatriot7733😭
@@alexanderkejmar6291 Please reconsider. This election is important for the whole world
@@NotMyPresident2020 What? Oh Yeah, He Did a Phenomenal Job Saying That Donald Trump did a “Peacefully” Transfer of Power
I was shook every time something JD said made Walz’s eyes widen 😂
And furiously write down notes. 😂
lmfao
@@nicoled3562 That was fun. He at least seems as an honest person. They make a quite good team :-) LIstening from abroad ...
and he gave JD that ninja, CCP, death stare.
@@stormyweather9917walz is not a communist
Even Tim Walz was impressed by JDs answers lol
😂😂😂 for real
Vance really came off well
He was being polite but knew Vance was lying almost the entire time
@@414jackie if you think Vance is lying you're truly be deceived by the Father of all lies.
@@414jackie Walz was shocked that not all of his lies were in question
I wasn’t a fan of Vance, but after wachting this debate. I think he won my vote!
He's very level-headed, speaks volumes for a leader
Won mine for sure
Knew nothing about him before. But he seems a smart, and calm leader
Good job Vance fact checking the moderator. I'm so glad he caught that.
timestamp? please
@@markofcain2324just watch it all but if you can't focus it's at 27:24 or so
Oh he caught on the first time and when it came to the topic in OHIO he wasn’t having it. I’m glad he stood his ground.
What did he fact check?
His fact check was wrong... the CBP 1 Mobile App was started in Oct 28th 2020! During Trump!!! So Vance "fact check" was wrong!
They tried to fact check Vance and got schooled.
Got schooled HOW?
@lorenelement401 she tried to cut him off and continue, and he completely shut her down. Basically told her to make him a sandwich while he talks
What and how did he school her?
@@seeme4127:30 onwards
Id love to vote for trump but rhetoric like this from his supporters always makes me wary 😂😂
I'm just glad both vp picks seem to be pretty cordial on the debate stage.
I'd say JD Vance "set the table" by do a bit of agreeing right out of the gate.
@@Msloverawfood Certainly, but Walz kept it going, as did Vance.
@@mrchristian0457they are class acts. It’s a shame they aren’t the primary candidates. People like this will ease the divide.
@@ThEBr00k5tbh it proves trump is more open minded than the media likes to show. That should signal something in our brain.
I'm impressed you have your priorities in place during this time.
Every time after JD makes a point, they gave walz a chance to respond immediately.
Every time after walz says something, they ask JD another question so that he wouldn't have enough time to respond to what Tim said.
Thank God JD is too smart to fall in to their trap.
yes,so obviously
I know, there were even moments where they went out of their way to remind him of which points he should respond to lol
As a Democrat - have to admit Vance is a much better debater than Walz.
i dont know... he never answered the serious questions.
No, both are amazing.
@@FAL87 He did. But I think both did a good job
CBS I’m not even on the right but it’s disgusting the way you conduct debates. It clearly shows bias
The news channels alway lie about trump and vance which is why people should do research. You would vote for trump and Vance if you knew the truth about kamala and Tim. Trump and Vance are for the American people and our freedom. That's exactly why I'm voting for them.
Ehh they weren’t too bad in this, I watched the whole thing through. Maybe a few times where they unfairly challenged JD compared to Tim, but wayy better moderation than the usual mainstream media biases.
Wahhhh wahhhh wahh, get a new line. Every single debate since 2015 you guys have cried about poor trump and his vp getting bullied.
@@ethanieldude1 "Wahhhh wahhhh wahh"? 5 year olds shouldn't be posting in YT.
Same... im an independent. Hell idk if I'm even voting I'm so confused. But the media isn't confused and that's so unfair!
The moderators are smug and hostile
Theirs faces - goodness
The lady in the right with the pink jacket was scary
Disgusting, vile propaganda mouthpieces. These are the same people Tulsi Gabbard talked about who get invited to rub elbows with CEO’s, congressmen, etc… “journalists” should not be entrenched with businessmen and politicians.
CBS….You’re Fired!
I like the fact they debated but treated each other with dignity throughout.
Wow these moderators are a joke. They should be embarrassed for being so bad at their jobs.
Lesbians in pant suits.
DEI hires for woke propaganda and bias
I read this with a Russian accent. The other replies give me pall mall/camel crush vibes.
@@Fult I don't know what that means sorry. Just that those are types of cigarette.
@@Tight--LiNeZ you're an insel, huh pickle?
Why are the moderators piggy backing on Walz responses when asking Vance questions?
They are agents for the Democrats
Because they're paid to do so unfortunately. But TRUMP VANCE 2024 AMEN
Because SeeBS is establishment propaganda.
Agreed. They lob gotcha questions at Vance, but not Walz. The bias is obvious. Harris was the border czar, despite the media pretending she wasn't. The fact they didn't ask Walz about Harris and the border is obvious bias.
Because they are giving him a chance to respond as THEIR pick in this race.
Wow! CBS CUT OUT THE PART WHERE JD Corrected Margaret after she fact-checked him (incorrectly) and cut the mic! They are a HORRIBLE NETWORK.
Ok what was said. Let me know, I'm interested.
Was this before or after the 60 Minutes fiasco? Either way, TOUGH look
When Vice presidential nominees debate better than the presidential nominees ! 😶😶😶
Vance is so calm. So good!!!! Wow!!!
Mr. Vance, I want to say it was a lot like you growing up my mother had an addiction issue and blamed it all on my dad. I know exactly where you're going from. My dad actually ended up getting full custody over us one year right before Christmas actually because of my mother hitting rock-bottom fully and I'm so glad he did that so I know the struggles that you faced. It wasn't easy seeing a parent having to go through that when her job is supposed to protect you as well as a father would be. You are a good person, Mr. Vance. I hope to see you in the White House along with Donald Trump. Thank you for doing what you are doing and I pray that you and Mr. Trump win the election. Also I appreciate your service and sacrifice for serving for the US. I'm grateful for you returning home. Don't listen to the idiots who hate you and Donald Trump I don't hate you. Or Trump. Glad to have people like you around.
Have you watched the movie about Vance growing up? Really good stuff.
So true ❤
The smirk on Nora Robert's face when she silenced Vance as he showed Walz was lying and they were covering for him about the immigration app, is all you need to see.
On a flip side, these two are better than the actual presidential candidates
Totally agree!!
Absolutely agree.
This is the only sane comment on here.
Was saying the exact same thing 15 minutes in
I would suggest for both VP to run as president in the next 4 years.
Moderators can’t play by their own rules and run cover for Democrats. Trust gone. 👎👎
Three against one once again😂😂😂
And he has AWOKEN! Lol
@@J.P.1911 3 women against one
They were despicable. Obviously hostile towards Vance
And traitors to America vote for Trump.
Moderators didn’t keep their promises and fact checked Vance and tried to trip him
Tried to trip him? OMG, they called him on a lie. Big trip! God forbid we hold a candidate accountable for what they say.
The Primary ROLE of the Moderators is the Facilitiate the Debate Between the Candidates, ENFORCE the RULES & Provide the Candidates with the OPPORTUNITY to FACT CHECK “Claims” Made by Each other CBS News “Reserve the RIGHT” to Mute the Candidates Microphones to Maintain “Decorum”
@@user-rb1yf4he9q no, they spread their own lies and wouldn't let him clarify their lies
lol we will fact check unless it checks our narrative at the door
@@EricGraham-h6s you do know that you are trying to explain logic to the MAGA crowd.
I need understanding. Did he say “ I’ve become friends with school shooters”??
You heard correctly.
@@titanuscreature4485 😲
@@corneiliusmalone4101 he was frens with them till they became shooters
Who said that Waltz?😂😂
Waltz constantly talks about Minnesota. Stay there dude.
Nah. He’s already done enough to destroy MN. 😅
He’s using what he knows instead of using what he should know as a possible VP.
In the exact words of the former president spoken on J six when he heard the mob was after Pence, “So What?”
He destroyed MN.
He brings it up because they're clear examples of his leadership, decisions and policies he's backing and their measurable positive impact on the state. If you run a store so well maybe you could improve a whole chain? It makes perfect sense.
Walz said crossing is lower now compared to Trump’s time. Why there was no fact check?!
He lied left and right, and also did not answer a lot of questions.
Because from the debate we learned that they’re using the fact that ONLY the last 2 months of trumps presidency the crossings were just as high as they are now. It’s a play on words and a bunch of Bullcrap because for the rest of Trump’s presidency, we had the lowest crossings in decades!
Why can you do it!? Bring the number here
Waltz is more interested in slamming Trump than answer the issues that really matter..
Vance never answered a single question...
@@rudolftrost3534he answered all the questions. Specifically when referring to the storms and climate change he essentially stated that it is a known fact that the US has the most restrictions and is the cleanest on how waste can be eliminated. Unfortunately more and more American jobs are going overseas where they do not have restrictions like we do. So more pollutants are going to into the environment. A way to fix it is for us to make our own things. Granted we can’t control how other countries choose to run their factories but if the factory is specifically for American goods then it needs to be over here so we can stop pollution on our end. And that was a phenomenal answer. As I black woman I’m voting Trump Vance 2024.
@@Itdoesntmatterr lol you're delusional.
@KenM_1987
He did. You just didnt understand. Watch it again.
@@rudolftrost3534rewatch the first 8 mins he answers the very first question. You clearly are heavily bias. Please put your pride aside and do your duty to the American people and vote with a honest/fair heart.
JD Vance dominated!! Pink lady should never fact-check someone who not only knows the debate rules but knows the facts and laws!
The house price increases from $500,000 to $1,000,000, and then you are given a tax cut of $25,000. Do you think you got a benefit?
What they don’t tell you is the first home buyers $25,000 is only for 1st generation home buyers ! So if your parents own you don’t qualify! So again for illegals ?
Waltz also said “you’re going to have to pay it back”
You want more welfare?
@@TweaNation- Went right over your head. Smh
😂
Waltz is lying about rent. It increase s every year even in multifamily housing. Lies, lies , lies.
Waltz no democrat, he is republican, her name Michael, and senator
Truth!
If you want the truth scan the fact check QR-code - that's what it's there for
Landlords lift rents, no matter what side are in office.
It has nothing to do the economy. It is to do with the greed of landlords.
@@dhenderson1810 exactly. So when he said rent is down in Minnesota by a % he was lying. No landlords have lowered any type of housing for rent in general in MN, nor are housing prices or cost of living in MN down any percent for housing in general. So why he even said something in regards to this, was just for the sake of exaggeration or embellishment. Vance did not say anything other than the need to lower housing costs and the cost of living, ect. ect. So Waltz lied about MN, and your right who cares what side he is on. He lied. That is what I said.
VANCE is sharp and precise!
I gotta admit.. I didn’t get at first why Trump chose Vance as VP running mate. But the more he speaks, the more he grows on me. And this debate sealed the deal for me. He is such a smart, intelligent, sharp & cool guy. I see a bright future ahead of him..
Trump/Vance 2024 ❤
And noticed how much more time ABC news wanted to linger on what they though was republicans weakest issues Abortion and Healthcare but Vance was too slick and kept his composure the entire time.
Well that's what happens when you prepare and do the debate prep. People forget about Debate teams in HS. That used to be a thing.
You have to work at it.
@@hellothere4599 I must admit, it was nice to finally see a competent Republican on stage for the first time in forever. This would be a more interesting race if he were at the top of the ticket, instead of boring vindictive Trump.
He lied the whole time. We shouldn’t want someone slick we should want the truth. I don’t understand what people see in JDV and Trump, y’all is not rich on here so if they win we lose.
@@Stardaddy60 Ok please explain his lies? And what about Walz lies about his past and stolen Valor ? You don't think stolen Valor is serious lie ?
@@Stardaddy60stop listening to left rhetoric ur brainwashed buddy.
JD Vance is great vp
Jeez, these moderators are biased trash
You re a full Trump guy based on the comments. Whatever someone does to criticize Trump you would just scream and never listen.
@@liquidrimeI’m republican and I would agree with you here. As a country we are too emotional in our decision making. I’m not saying get rid of all emotions, because it’s good to have emotions on some topics. But when emotions completely take over than we “scream and never listen” to the facts. I see this problem on both sides recently. The moderators were fair in this one I thought.
Vance is doing a great job.He is a very smart man
Said no intelligent person ever. Let me ask you a very simple question to determine if you are smart or stupid. Is the 2020 election in question?
Useless moderators
So moderators can now add to comments DURING a debate , adding half truths??
Fact checking is normal. Just because you don’t understand doesn’t mean it’s not true.
@@blayzeonfact checking was only implemented for the government to shout down the truth
@@blayzeon its not there job to do that its your as a voter think for your self
Please Show us the “Half” Truth
@@blayzeonAlso doesnt mean the “fact checking” is true 😂. Ever notice how no democratic candidate has been fact checked in a single debate? You really think theyre that infallible? Kamala Harris, who routinely stumbles on interviews, among other things, and Walz who is like 100 years old? Completely perfect? Thats insane.
Temporary legal status unbiased moderator snidely replies to VP Vance candidate “ thank you senator for describing the legal process” to get illegal immigrants legal via an app? WTH ???
They're killing Americans in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene and YT is aiding this process.
You should really read about the thing he talked about instead of taking his word for it. He massively oversimplifies and misrepresents it to make it sound worse. It's standard fearmongering. CBP One facilitates legal processes. Applicants have to be screened. It doesn't just freely grant legal or asylum status.
VANCE is just amazing!
JD VANCE IS POISED, ORGANIZED AND VERY ARTICULATED
GREAT DEBATE.
HE WON FOR SURE 🎉
This is joke how they mute their mics let them speak media trys to control it all it's a joke
They were enforcing the rules explained at the beginning, who would’ve thought?
then go watch them talk separately on their own time without the media involved? they have to have regulation if they’re hosting the debate, don’t be dense
You re a full Trump guy based on the comments. Whatever someone does to criticize Trump you would just scream and never listen.
I like the diplomacy towards each other, the agreement on opposing policies, and standing their ground with diplomacy when they disagree. Very refreshing debate.
I like the great economy Trump created in 2016 to 2020 until democrats destroyed everything
JD!!!
How come Timmy's mike isn't muted when Vance is speaking?
Biased CBS
Both moderators of CBS are SO RUDE.
Rude... Strange how often I hear that word when women are attacked... Never hear it about men tho
@@Strategic_Reformer Really? You've never heard men called rude? I think you need to get out more then. Hell, even if you're just into politics, Trump gets called rude all the time.
Nora has always been rude
@@brendaeakins5556 who new that having a spine as a journalist would make people dislike you? Shame neither of them do since they're paid for by oil and didn't say GHG's cause climate change...
In What Way?
I remember my life was better under Trump. Food wasn't $200 for 10 items
Yep couldn't even buy a pack of sprite cause I only had 9 bucks and it was 12.01. People are struggling to survive under biden and cumala
Thank Obama. All of the economic trends that continued under Trump began under him.
If you disagree, then tell me. What exactly did Trump do, to help the economy when he was in office? I don't recall him doing much of anything, except the deficit spending he did for that one tax cut.
@@Brittb89you don’t need a pack of sprite anyway big back
I'd rather have mean tweets than wars.
@@matt-i3r6w Trump wants to give you both, via 1930s style appeasement
Team Vance 🎉❤😊🥰
So Walz said he was friends with school shooters?🙈
He probably is
Hell yea 😂😂😂😂😂
And Vance blamed it on immigration
Both of your parties are wrong, lol typical Americans
@@mitchconner403 the two party system is more than flawed.
I heard that too 😂😂
I know one thing prices are high. Question is who. Will make the difference. We have given money to other countries but what about the home land?
Prices are high, but they are lower than when trump was in office. Lumber is much lower than it was under trump. Groceries are also lower. I had to pay $8 for a dozen store brand eggs. I'm now paying $3 for that same brand. My food budget can actually stretch the month now where as under trump, I had at least a weeks worth of days out of the month where I had to go without food at all because things were so expensive. I had to go to food pantries just to make sure I had at least enough for my son to eat. Thank God for free breakfast and lunch at school so he could eat.
To answer that question;
Harris/Walz are in favor of regulating corporations' ability to price gouge on household necessities/groceries; something that they have been provably doing since the pandemic.
Prices *did not* return to baseline after the supply chain issues resolved, all-the-while corporations have seen record profits. They *are* price gouging.
Trump/Vance are in favor of further *deregulating* the corporate sector - as well as defunding consumer safety organizations.
Trump/Vance also support a blanket tariff on Chinese imports, but with corporations *relying* on Chinese imports, that cost will simply be passed to consumers in order to maintain profits, *IN ADDITION* to an increase in sales tax, which will disproportionately effect lower and middle class families.
Harris/Walz, on the other hand, want to increase tax revenue by ensuring the rich pay their fair share. In part through the implementation of a tax on unrealized capital gains.
You may question whether or not that sounds fair, however unrealized capital gains can be weighted as collateral when securing financial loans, creating a tax-loophole for the ultra-wealthy.
This loophole should be closed, and UCGs should be taxed accordingly.
As for the money we've given to foreign countries, in Ukraine, that 'money' has taken the form of military stock. Surplus weapons and munitions- which were _already_ in the process of being replaced.
But more to your point, Biden/Harris had (in 2021) authorized the investment of $1.2 trillion, into stateside infrastructure.
Meanwhile, Trump/Pence stifled our initial response to the pandemic in 2020- *and* denied California federal assistance during the 2020 wildfires, all the while authorizing tax cuts for the ultra-rich.
Now, I in no way take issue with you posing the question- However to me, the answer is obvious.
@@ofui24 LOL, where are living? Please let me know I wanna move there.
@@ofui24 You need to put the drugs down. Every single section is higher under Biden and Harris. Trump had the low prices and high quality of life. Please put the drugs down and touch grass once in a while.
Lol😂 really???? Me thinking,this is a joke or a lie.... If im wrong, well where should we follow you? 😅
@@ofui24
Trump 2024 for the save
Nope
@@EricGraham-h6slol saying nope doesn’t do anything 🤦♂️
@@goaliegrizz8925 Nope
@@goaliegrizz8925Nope
@@EricGraham-h6syes! Black women for Trump.
Tim is a sweet well meaning old man for the most part, but he stands for weak and illogical policies. We need strength and we need robust policies. Vance is incredible. Trump 2024.
Vance 2024
very true about Tim. He looks like a good person, but his argument is weak
The lady in pink is interfering with this debate and after watching it again you can tell Mr Vance won this debate because the lady in pink did not stay neutral according to the rules also if you look at the debate between Trump and Kamala she was the same woman who interfered with asking different questions unscripted to word Trump and then being disrespectful to Trump and she she will reap what she sews and she is called as many sorrows and I asked that she reaped many sorrows
Of course it feels unfair when Vance is the only one not listening to instructions/rules and thus the only one getting slapped with a reminder of them/the enforcement of them.
Kind of weird to assume he won because he wasn’t following instructions 🤡🤡🤡
@@blayzeonok border crisis voter
@blayzeon look at 1:09:10. They gave Waltz extra time to answer when they previously cut JD off. Then, they had the audacity to cut off JD as soon as he was going to answer back. Obvious bias.
@@SassyDergbecause they know he’s better and their worried, old man needs help
@@blayzeon edited comment. While I was reading your comment they just asked Walz to shut up because he's over time and then let him 'quickly reply'
TRP - the Temporary Resident Permit - came from the crisis in Haiti after the earthquake in 2010. It was meant for humanitarian rescue after a geological disaster. Now, it's being used to legalize a short cut to the immigration process.
Good, the current process isn't working
@@calebcruz2812What makes you think as wages have been stagnant for decades and automation decreases the need for manual labor that importing MILLIONS of unskilled laborers is a good thing? Historically in the past when immigration increased it was because of a need for labor. That need is no longer there.
@@Kashmirknight they're here to replace us.
@@calebcruz2812how is that good?
If it's a problem then why didn't Trump solve it when the GOP had congress?
JD Vance did an amazing job when these womans tried to shut him down
No one can deny the fact that the world was at peace during Trumps 4 years. No one.
Peace is a relative thing. A society rife with poverty and inequality or eun by a dictatorial regime is ahedly peaceful in its roots. Literally, there has nwver been peace in the planet due to human nature. Trump's idea of peace is to just give the aggressor what he wants to appease him. He wanted to turn Palestinians into citizens of modern day Bantustans instead of proposing a really peaceful coexistence with Jewish people.
@@europeanamerican7658 So Trump is so great at being a dictator he had to run again in a democratic process in order to be elected again to be a dictator?
You see how brainwashed you sound?
Dictators cannot be removed from power via normal processes…
Tim didn't say anything about how to stop people from illegally obtaining guns. He only brought up how to make things harder on law abiding citizens
At least he didn’t lie and make up crap throughout.
@@LVLexusI agree, I’m done with the “we’re not taking guns but…” BS, I want them to just say it like he does
He outright said let’s study what’s going on and make an informed decision/look at other countries with large gun populations but minimal violence for their solutions.
It’s logical and reasonable. I understand people’s arguments for unrestricted access and the ability to fight government tyranny/a majority of gun owners are responsible gun owners whether they’re enthusiasts (AR15 owners) or just needing protection. So while I understand one sides viewpoint, I personally think it’s entirely possible to have it both ways even if it does make it slightly more inconvenient. BUT, once again, I do understand the fear of the government using that restriction as a means to control people. So truthfully it comes down to trust in government.
I wouldn’t fear a policy like that with a trustworthy government (I wouldn’t with 100% confidence say a Harris government is trustworthy) With one like a trump government(you might say Harris or democrat etc), I would fear it’s weapon used to disarm opponents as trump has a history of trying to enforce his viewpoint with muscle rather than listening to both sides.
Should be obvious, the first part is what he said, the parts after are my personal opinion.
Ultimately, any policy that is effective at stopping people from obtaining illegal guns will necessitate making it at least slightly harder for normal people to obtain legal guns. Those two things are directly linked. You can't have one without the other.
If you want totally unrestricted access to legal firearms, that's fine. But you do have to acknowledge that one of the tradeoffs will be making guns easy to obtain for criminals. You can say that's a trade-off you're willing to accept, but don't pretend it's a trade-off you don't have to make
@@Bertinator-nm9ld I pretty clearly stated exactly what you’re saying.
Specifically about there’s way to allow people to get whatever firearm they want, but it would make it slightly more convenient. But there’s also a caveat that a corrupt government could weaponize that policy. So the true question is trust in government.
Shame on the moderators. Making a deceptive "fact-check" despite the rules being that they would not fact-check, then muting mics when they get called out on their deception. Disgraceful!
Yea, that wasnt a fact check at all lol, they just joined in and started debating for waltz side
How can a fact check be deceptive?
@@stenadpackadfullochhog622 By citing certain facts but omitting others. Lies by omission are still lies. As we saw in this debate, the fact checks omitted crucial information when talking about the Haitian migrants being legal.
@@stenadpackadfullochhog622what a dumb question. A fact check that isn't based on facts. They only have an opinion against one party.
Vp Vance if you ever run for the president you got my vote.
Same.
Vote for him now and he'll prob go for president in 2028
Harris team sounds to have no plan. I am switching and voting for TRUMP
you'd be glad you did
Same switching to Harris team sounds to have a better plan
@@jamessisoutham1466 lol whatever floats your lack of discernments
@@jamessisoutham1466What plan?
@jamessisoutham1466 it's just bidens plan but with more taxes. You really want that? If you do go for it but I think most people wnt real change and had better lives under trump
Fantastic word salads from Tim Walz, he completely dodged the question regarding Tiananmen Square, and gave a full salad record of his life history instead 😂
Meanwhile, you fail to recognize that Vance has been dodging each and every question by the very same method, starting with his pathetic attempt to promote his his own autobiography right at the beginning of this Q&A ... 🤦♂
@@Michaelneiss Two wrongs don't make a right !
he learned that from kamala.
"kamala what are you going to do to close the border"
"well my grandma used to say a pickle aint a porkchop if the cat and singing hhahahahahhaha when i was a girl i had a paper route..."
I believe that Donald Trump and Lauren bobert are the leading word salad King and Queen
word salads, do you know who the other VP candidate and presidential candidate are? LMAO. Literal kings of the word salad art.
Vance, the only man in the show.
Debate was excellent. But moderators esp Margaret was terrible. She violated the rules.She must have been paid by Kamala team.
Or maybe she’s younger and just not the right fit for this type of job. Grace is a beautiful thing to give to someone.
@@MorgansBeauty22She's older than JD Vance
The two ladies from cbs are a disgrace. The way they are speaking to Vance, shows they don’t have a clue how to temper themselves. CBS bias strikes again with their passive aggressive tones
The moderators should be fired.
They should have let Vance finish explaining the context on the immigration app.
Trump 2024! 🇺🇸
This is probably the best debate I have ever listened to! They actually are debating and providing new information and explaining things! I wish we could pick these two to just run the country....
If he says 'hey look' one more time... This was a disaster for Walz. Before this I was going to vote for him, but saying he's made friends with school shooters!!!. Wayyyyy past the line dude. I'll now vote for Trump.
I think he misspoke
Walz isn't a great debater, and I am sure he misspoke, but if that line is all that swayed you, you should rewatch the Presidential debate.
@@adoraperson3833 if you believe he misspoke then there's no hope for you sorry.
@@arnoldrimmer9161 if a slip up speaking is what makes you decide your vote there's no hope for you sorry
@@namelessman6257 🤣 it's not your fault 😆
the moderators are clearly biased.
it,s clear then the sun in the daylight
Why can’t one debate moderator be fair and unbiased?
Because they are bought and paid.
Because MAGA is not the GOP. MAGA is an extremist right wing organisation planning for dictatorship in dividing the people and the world. Money men at work. Nothing else. Without MAGA it would no be necessary to moderate properly like this. Bring back the Grand Old Party. As you where.
If you want to solve the problem, tell the republican candidates to stop lying so much
Globalism/corruption
@@Strategic_Reformer What were the lies? I'll probably be waiting a while for you since they do no exist.
So this is how grown-ups do things. An America that gets along and can work together. Good job all.
WoW..'Vance is Very intelligent.Trump doesn't deal with shitt..I Trust Trump's Choice of VP....Vance is Wow! ...I am voting red
Both of them were more likeable than their would be bosses. And the moderators did well too. Nice to see some civility in an election for a change.
lol that’s what i was thinking the entire debate. i thought they spoke better than the current candidates
Vance: I was raised in a middle class family...
*MIC DROP* 😂🤣
Great debate. Civil. I’m getting sick of the biased moderators though.
Cutting the mic was for fighting, but they cut the mic because Vance was right. Now this is a rely to a question because someone asked what was actually on in Springfield, "Biden lied that the Haitian were being whipped at the boarder, this wasn't happening. They made it up and gave all the Haitians temporary status, they weren't vetted and they moved to Springfield because there was a small migrant population because the old mayor made a law to bring in migrants because the town was declining in population. This was ten years ago and many of them were from Mexico, but they came here legally and aren't the issue. The Haitian are illegally driving and on the wrong side of the road. Several people have been injured, an 11 year old boy and one pedestrian were killed. These were different incidents and the 71 year old woman who was killed didn't get any justice. they didn't even sight the man for having expired tags." What I've learned since this was posted on instagram as a reply to a question is that Harris and Biden actually flew them in under perfected status. The hospitals in Springfield are overrun, people are being run out of their homes and the car accidents are happening at 4 times the rate. When they were flying in people the Cuban's were being starved by their government and were told if they had been caught over the boarder they would be sent back. Why fly in one country and send back another?
They cut his mic because his time was up.
Conspiracy on this media companies, obviously you're all BIAS 🤬
I am a woman and I am definitely not voting for Kamala...!!
This is the BEST debate I have seen in years. Respect for one another