SPEAK | Acho's INSANE Take, Chicago Bears Will ALWAYS Fail Their QB, Caleb Williams Could Crash? NFL
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- SPEAK | Acho's INSANE Take, Chicago Bears Will ALWAYS Fail Their QB, Caleb Williams Could Crash? NFL
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Love your commentary man! You actually look at things from all perspectives not just whatever way fits best with the narrative you are trying to spin like so many commentators
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it!
So Fields was bad at reading defenses? But Caleb lost 5-6 college games. Has atrocious record vs ranked teams. Hasn't played against NFL blitzes yet. The hyping of Caleb Williams has been ridiculous.
They failed Fields but they aren't gonna do the same with Caleb
He not wrong until the bears prove him wrong. Lions didn't always have bad players or quarterbacks but the organization was trash. Lions Organization made a complete 180 and now look at em (us)
You're not on the team goofball.
@@Bryan-ig2zp still my team numb nuts
@@saleen313 😂😂😂. What??.. You're just a fan weird guy.
The fact that Jordan Love threw for 4000 yards this past season and it was his first as an NFL starter. And the Bears have NEVER had a QB throw for 4000 yards in franchise history, over 100 years, that is just an insane stat that's almost hard to believe. I know one thing, they have him set up as good as any rookie QB I've ever seen that has come into the season as the 1st pick overall. Time will tell, but if this goes array, wheeeewwww🫣🫣🫣
Thank you! Crazy to think no one brought this up. Acho is trying to say that whatever happened from 1960 to 2010 etc etc has something to do with Caleb Williams is absolute nonsense. How can he possibly make that argument? I wish someone called him out on live tv.
lol the only way that argument is valid if it’s the identical coach, gm, and there’s some poison in the water supply specifically to Chicago. 😂
As a Bears fan...here is what I know. Shady has been 100% correct for a while now (specifically Justin Fields). Acho likes to play the devils advocate role in each of these topics. I dont believe Acho really thinks 50% of the takes he has on this show.
Well they have to have roles in the mainstream media. Most of these people are owned by Disney.
Acho always like to have the out of the box theory. 😂
This show and these people are pieces of crap
I'm new here. What has he said about Fields that he's been right about?
Acho is wrong for this take - this is a completely different Bears regime which, over the the past 3 years have proven adept at finding talent and holding players accountable, constant upgrades to the roster in general as well as coaching staff and supporting elements... a rebuilt does not happen in one two or sometimes even three off-seasons but this team in two seasons has gone from cellar-dweller to playoff contender and has an immense amount of draft capital and salary cap for the season coming up to continue
Shady has a 3rd grade reading level😅😂🤣
Does Caleb really process the game fast. Cause I remember him holding on to the ball at USC. He was great off script but not great at reading a defense and hitting that first read.
Caleb was really forced to do a lot at USC. College is different like that.
Nah, Acho is right. You are what you are until you're not. Until the Bears have a great QB, that reputation will stick with them. Caleb has to prove he's great before we believe that. Same with the Bengals before Burrow. Awful, but Burrow turned it around
Under Acho’s logic Joe Burrow should be bad!
How does whatever happened in the 60s, 70s, 80s etc have anything to do with Caleb Williams right now?
Exactly my point! Haha
@@JWLSports But I said Burrow already as the example of things being turned around lol. It can happen, but it has to happen first with Caleb 😂
lol yeah but Burrow proves Acho’s logic wrong! So you can’t agree with him! 😂
The Bears failed those QBs because they never put a good O-line and team together … this is the first time I’ve even seen a Bears team with this much talent in my life , and I’m 44 years old … Justin would’ve made the playoffs easy with this group and this O-line .. So I don’t expect anything less than that with a supposedly generational talent QB and the third easiest schedule in league
CW will fail bcuz he has a terrible line in front of him. The Bears have always had a good middle LB and GB has always had a good QB. He's right, don't hate, he's right.
Sure.
Lol the Bears oline is top 10
You speak on caleb as If he's throw one snap in the NFL.....really hope he turns out to be great cause I'm sure u were saying this when fields was drafted
I was not.
hes talking about bad coaching why cant you hear that. the guy from green bay thats now in kansas city knows how to coach QBS . its not enough to pick good guys you have to coach them' do you really belive cutyler . mitch and feilds where all bad QBS what about orton who took the bears to the play offs as a rookie only to be traded to denver. theres no way all of these guys suck.
Everyone knows The Bears are where QB'S go to die. 🎲🎲
Bears definitely failed fields. But trubisky sucked. Fields wasn't supported cause he was playing fir a roster being torn down.
So I’m not saying the bears optimally set up Fields for success. But he absolutely deserves a lot of blame for his lack of success. It’s not all on the bears.
@JWLSports agreed but having less than 2 seconds 40% of the time is about as bad as David carr had when he was drafted to the expansion Texans. No young qb especially rookie can thrive under those conditions. If this year were fields rookie year instead it would be a different narrative around him 3 years from now.
@@gilbertlloyd8691justin fields literally cant read a defense my guy.
@9etherbeing866 neither could Patrick mahomes his first 3 years but look what he did with quality vets and coaching around him. Yall gotta let that narrative go. Before you try to argue it, Patrick mahomes himself said he couldn't.
@@9etherbeing866 Ah. This seems to be The Place. "Fields can't read defenses." Do you have a *receipt* for that lobotomy? Because unlearning how to read them is not possible, & Fields was shown to read them ua-cam.com/video/QuhUbISnr8s/v-deo.html at an advanced level, backed by stats & the only person who _tried_ to track down the source of that meme found it to be a rumor. Don't worry, I wouldn't expect anyone here to know that.
But if we got _that_ "obvious thing" wrong about Fields, what *else* might be demonstrably wrong? What about "he holds onto the ball too long?"
That applies to a QB failing to throw to an open receiver from a clean pocket. The way games are filmed one normally can't see (11 minutes into ua-cam.com/video/0nd2Ac1haEQ/v-deo.html) receivers clogging up the passing lanes, but we *can see* the pocket collapsing on Fields *as his teammates run actively away from blocks* ua-cam.com/video/glpaya0xz-4/v-deo.html regularly, something most fans dismiss as 'normal.'
The first 23 minutes of that link being one half of one game shows more Deliberately Missed Blocks than most teams whiff on accidentally All Year.
If you think this is long, I'm actually leaving a _LOT_ of stuff out. I'm sticking to what I have on film. Speaking of which, for Caleb to be 'Generational,' his college highlights, the only thing we can possibly judge this rating by would have to be better than any college highlights of anyone This Generation. It should Be Impossible to find anyone whose college highlight reel looks Even Close to how good his is.
Not only is Fields a better rusher, ua-cam.com/video/5JO1PsupF_U/v-deo.html it's not even in the same tier when it comes to passing. Fields send low missiles that don't give defenders time to adjust & make plays on that drop right in the hands of his receivers. The same kind of thing that makes Darnell Mooney knock them down in surprise.
Fields has gotten blamed for 29 different things that are either untrue or not any QB's responsibility. They went on a 3-week streak in '22 where they led the NFL in offense & *the **_TEAM_* lost all 3 games prompting people to say "this proves that Fields can't win games." He did that with _that_ o-line, with *that* receiver & Chase Claypool.
Anyone care to know what I left out?
So Caleb Williams has Matt Eberflus. Love has Matt Lefluer. Your seriously going to say 10 28 Matt Eberflus gonna become Andy Reid?!
Ohhhh a SPEAK take!!! This is gonna be great!!!
Made my head hurt on this one. Apparently what teams did in the 70’s affects how teams play in 2024.
ok before the last 6 hyears when was the last time the bears took a qb in the first round? its a mind set do not belive me when green bay drafted rogers who was their starting QB. faver and when they drafted their starter now who was their sarting QB ROGERS how about the pats they had brady and still drafted a QB kansas city had a good QB and drafted mohomes seattle had a good QB and drafted russle wilson . do you see a patten .
Kansas City had horrible Qb play for 40+ years… until Mahommes
Mmhmm
Between 1968-1991, the packers only went to the playoffs twice, and recorded only six winning seasons. Based on Acho’s logic, that should’ve continued forever. But it didn’t. They got a game changer in Brett Farve. Caleb could be the Bears game changer
Spot on!
I would be willing to bet my entire fandom he does not get 4000 plus yards 🤘🏾🇨🇱🤘🏾
Haha we shall see!
I think bears are going turn it around
Can’t see why not!
These dudes are nuts
😂
Let’s be honest Chicago hasn’t been able to develop a franchise Quarterback but also they never had the Top Qb prospect to work with some of it was drafting Position and others was Drafting the wrong guy.
105 years of destroying quarterbacks. No one better at it than the Chicago Bears.
He'll have to be damn good for sure to overcome that front office in Chicago (Good Luck).
For once they seem to be surrounding the kid with some talent a RB & some proven receivers.
Allot damn more than they ever did for poor Justin Fields during his tenure with the team.
The Bears best teams were always great rushing teams with an impeccable defense.
Should of stuck to that philosphy instead of letting Roquan Smith go to the Ravens.
The Bears still suck!
Go Pack Go!
Haha I’m exited for the packers vs the bears games to actually matter and be competitive!
Saying “looking at a teams past doesn’t make sense” is stupid.
The bears are the bears. We’ve had different OCs coaches and players every year. And haven’t made the playoffs.
Now we get a few receivers and a rookie QB and anyone who questions this terrible organization is dumb???
Get off Caleb’s nuts bro. Your take is 100% hope, Acho is speaking facts. If facts don’t make sense to you… that’s a you issue
lol the burden of proof is not on me. But under that logic the patriots will draft another goat. Burrow should be a bust. Mahomes should be average. The cowboys will draft another Emmitt smith. Like what are we taking about? What happen in the 70s literally has nothing to do with now. Saying the bears are the bears is stupid. 😂 They have completely different players, front office, coaches, etc.
@@JWLSports actually you are calling out outliers and acting like it’s the norm. Borrow can’t stay healthy because the Bengals are awful at drafting and developing talent still, Pat was crying last season because Nagys game calling for the Chiefs was so bad, and the Cowboys just gave up a great back 2 years ago for salary and said they are looking for another.
I bring all that up to say that while it may seem different, these teams are generally the same and run the same way. If not for Mahomes being the best football player ever the Chiefs would have been bounced last year they didn’t make some magical organizational changes, they got a GOAT.
So either you think Caleb is a goat or the Bears have a history of developing qbs that I don’t know about, otherwise I have no idea why you have so much unbridled optimism.
Every great player by definition is an outlier. 😂😂😂
The Saints were the Aints until Sean Payton. Remember all those great New England teams from before Bellichick? All it takes is a coach who cares to win regardless of logo. Still, you're right in this case despite perhaps not remembering why. NFL team owners are _business_ owners.
I don't even know if a Single One Cares about winning outside of what's his name trying to buy a ring for his Falcons now.
What you get are mainly egomaniacs who like to pretend they know what they're doing (Jerry Jones) or those who prefer to never expose themselves & are hands-off. That's what the Bears have. & the end result could be they stumble into a Sean Payton.
Or what they have. After a week 5 game in '22 media was all over Eberlfus to explain wtf happened that Fields stopped himself mid-launch from throwing to Wide-Open receivers. He looked So Unnatural doing it that people watching that game thought he'd been concussed.
The the Bears _didn't take him in_ to the blue tent after he did the same thing at least twice more the same game & it became clear how they could know he wasn't concussed without checking or why they weren't surprised. They _ordered him to_ not throw to certain receivers on certain plays in advance & Fields was enacting those orders.
He'd stop himself after the receiver turned & he could read their jersey # & realize it belonged to someone he was ordered not to throw to.
For _weeks_ Eberflus tried shutting up reporters who Dared To Question Him by angrily chop-waving his hand. Then, worse, although he didn't name names, Fields called out his coaches after week 7. Eberflus went into panic mode.
Weeks 8-10 the Bears led the NFL in offense proving that play-calling _was_ The Only Problem with this offense. After that however, Eberflus returned to calling the previous play-set & You The Fans dismissed all this. But didn't you notice something odd in this story?
How did the Bears Respond to Fields calling out his coaches?
Surely that's not something you shrug off. If Justin *Herbert* had publicly said "my coaches are confusing me & I don't know what they expect me to do (on the field)" someone would get fired. So how did the _Bears respond_ to finding out that one of their own coaches was sabotaging their offense?
With dead silence.
The owner didn't care enough to even worry about internal affair being aired publicly. The HC whose job supposedly depended on winning with This QB said & did absolutely nothing. & the GM who hired that HC & whose career could be haunted by trading away a quality QB for less than the #1 pick could get him also was completely unconcerned that someone was undermining His Team.
Hands-off owners allow their staff to do whatever they want, no accountability. Poles & Eberflus for whatever reason wanted Their Pick in at QB. If Bellichick had responded to finding out Mac Jones was seeking advice outside the Pats with Dead Silence, we'd all know Jones was a goner. When the Bears _did respond_ to Fields' public cry for help with Dead Silence, _I knew _*_he_* was a goner. The rest of NFL fandom seems to have Deliberately Forgotten all this for some reason.
Wanna see something funny? Someone spliced Fields' college highlights together with Williams'. Can you _see_ it? ua-cam.com/video/5JO1PsupF_U/v-deo.html.
Fields is a better rusher & _FAR_ more accurate passer! Poles & 'Flus got what they thought they wanted, but they never checked to see if it was as advertised. They did all this to get Their Pick in & went to all that effort & they *got a **_downgrade_** at QB!!*
Karma, Baby.
As a Packers fan, I would not be mad if his take is right🤣😂
😂😂😂 lol the division will soon be a gauntlet! I honestly can’t wait!
@@JWLSportsAbsolutely!!! There wasn't a division that got any better through free agency and the draft combined more than the NFC North. Probably Detroit wins it as painful as that is to say but I can see my Packers winning it also. They will be 1-2. Bears will be 3rd in the division and depending on Williams, we could see 3 coming out of this division.They won 7 games with Fields somehow and lost 3 games by like 15 points combined. Minnesota in the cellar. Everything is setting up for this conference to be a gauntlet for years to come but they said that about the AFC west a few years ago and boy were we all wrong about that so who knows
You can say what you want but going on now 75 years or so of history is screaming at us that this is going to be a disaster. Chicago has not successfully drafted and developed a QB in the better part of a century. Different owners, different GMs, different coaches, players come and go, history passes us by but one stable fact has remained and that its the Bears can not draft a QB. I get the inherent fallacy of believing that just because the past has been bad can't mean the future will but at some point there has to be something to it. Consider this, there have been a few teams through NFL history that really have historically struggled mightily to draft and develop a QB.. not just Chicago so lets look at what those teams have in common. Cleveland and the Jets also have an atrocious record of drafting and developing a QB. Forget about the organizational dysfunction for a moment which certainly exists but there are other factors possibly at play in these QBs struggling. These cities they play in are cold and very windy cities and the divisions they play in have a lot of outdoor stadiums and other windy conditions. Isn't it possible that the major underlying factor in these QBS struggling to find consistency is the inherent inconsistency of always playing in cold windy games. Every once in a while a guy comes along who transcends those conditions but usually they wind up on a team with a great history of success and have offensive schemes in place that help the QB. Chicago, an also the Browns and Jets, historically are very dysfunctional and have defensive cultures in place which simply make it more difficult for a young QB to thrive... it just does. So for now, I'll maintain my stance on Caleb that I think he will struggle and eventually fail as every Chicago QB has before him until the Bears prove they can actually develop a young QB and Caleb proves me wrong.
All that to say absolutely nothing. We don't need 75 years of History Ryan post has only been a general manager for three seasons and you look at his history, not the Bears history
You don't have to "devlop" a polished product, which is why it's crucial to draft appropriately, particularly at Qb. The right Qb will only evolve and become a great inevitably if coached right and had the appropriate personnnel around em. Jay Cutler was whom he is and you witnessed him even thrive for that very first yr under Larc Trestman wheb the Bears had a good scheme that wasn't figured out and productive wrs. Acho says he played with some of the Bears former Qbs...How MANY exactly because you're literally talking about the league's oldest franchise🤨🤔 They don't have a dome stadium yet to date which would help the passing game thrive with a solid Qb and is a reflection of the run the ball with a great defense method. The Bears have simply never catered towards valuing the Qb position as one of Greatness. This wouldn't have been the case with under better ownership and FO management.
@@brandonbass1717 another idiotic comment, that you don't have to develop a college quarterback. That they should come polished and refined lol. That's why Peyton Manning had what, almost 30 interceptions as a rookie? Ridiculous take homie
And no pressure is great for teams
Bears are going to the superbowl.
This dude doesn’t know what he’s talking about , because Justin didn’t use athleticism in college.. he uses his arm , he didn’t start running until he got in Chicago.. because u can’t be a pocket passer with a bad offensive line and WRs .. that’s common sense
😂 what are you talking about. In two years in high school alone he had 2,096 rushing yards, and 28 rushing touchdowns
@@JWLSports that’s high school … every black QB ran in high school 😂🫵🏾.. I’m talking about in college, u said in college Justin relied on his athletic ability, that’s not true .. he was a damn good pocket passer , and had the prettiest deep ball in his class .. or did u even watch his college games
You’re assuming “athletic ability” just means rushing. You are very very confused. 😂 He was also on an elite team. Of course he’d after to rush less.
😂 I won’t lie I was like who is this dude they got on this show , let’s see what he has to say 😂
😂😂😂 The guy on the left is fire! You should listen to him.
History is history and curses are real. They may have a QB curse. 😂😂😂😂
Just burn some sage and do dance and curses be gone! 🧙♂️
@@JWLSports 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't NOT agree with you! I totally agree that history WILL NOT affect today's players. With that being said, I understand his take and here's why; the Bears (the McCaskeys, old president Ted Phillips, et al, in general) have been known to only model their teams after George Halas' ideas. Run the ball and play great defense. I've watched this team since 1979 and I've tried so hard to believe that narrative wasn't true. I even got into multiple arguments with others DEFENDING against that narrative that the organization wasn't worried about changing (or updating) their philosophy to a more pass happy offensive genre. But the more facts piled up, the more I couldn't defend them anymore. It sucks that they are the only team w/o a 4000 yard passer. Does that define a team?? Absolutely not. But it puts into perspective the type of organization and where their focus is and what they do or don't care about. I've heard and seen many analysts and former Bears coaches close to the organization say the McCaskeys have been quite stubborn and have resisted change knowing that the league has left them behind....UNTIL...Ryan Poles and Kevin Warren got here and I am guessing that the McCaskeys FINALLY decided to step into the lime light and model their team after current iterations of NFL teams. Again, does CW need to throw for 4000??? Nope. Can the Bears still have a great defense and run the ball?? Of course! But NOW, they will have an actual passing attack that can win games not only on the ground but through the air as well....especially when you NEED to. That's just MY opinion. I actually think Acho is a pretty decent analyst but, like ALL analysts, he sometimes can't really hit his mark when trying to explain his opinion! 😂😂😂
I still don't see how you can say what Caleb Williams is going to be great Johnny manziel was supposed to be the next big thing too what happened I know they're different but he could still end up a bust
I mean anyone who thought Johnny was going to be the next big thing doesn’t understand ball and character evaluation
Watch the manziel documentary and you will see that they are different characters.
Windy city for a reason don't know how many people throw in Windy weather but definitely not easy!
Maybe dome Chicago and you can see some good quarter back play out Chicago!
the bears have never wanted a QB thats not who or what thery are is a run the ball strong defense team all always have been . who do they take in the first around 2 years a go defense
Acho, there are a lot of weirdos in Cali, is the rest of population doomed?
😂😂😂
I agree with one point from Acho - an analyst can say stupid shit all the time is no reason why that would change with this post.
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I wish the kid well!!
Haha no reason not to!
We have to understand most ppl speak on current events not what is always true… for example Justin fields only runs… I guess no one watch him in college unless you are a Ohio state fan
Speak is not a sports show. It’s a talk show that masquerades as a sports show.
I usually skip Speak. But I saw the title which was so absurd to me to begin with, then Acho tossed me up a softball with an absurd take.
@@JWLSports do the Angel Reese vs CC undisputed video. It’s ridiculous….
Oh gosh I don’t think I have the strength. I can’t listen to Joy and Acho lost all credibility when he crumbled under the pressure from the media mob. When the was video posted? What were they saying?
Edit: just realized you said undisputed. lol
@@JWLSports ua-cam.com/video/G1OMPGFlsuE/v-deo.htmlsi=Hnk_Nj2hYT4CvHWz
alright. lol. I’ll do this video. Record and post it tomorrow. lol.
Can I ask who’s your favorite team ? All love man 🤝
Haha honestly I have no favorite team these days! I want to be as unbiased as I can be! No desire to be like SAS, Nick Wright, or Skip with all their trolling and super fan takes.
I don't get why dude thinks it's totally absurd to think that about the Bears. In fact he's proving that it's not completely absurd at all. First, dude said himself that unless it's the same GM, the same coaches the same this or that, the same everything, then yeah those reasons why Williams will be a bust. Except well it hasn't been the same GMs, it hasn't been the same coaches/coordinators/players. They constantly change things and the Bears STILL haven't been able to succeed at the quarterback position whatsoever in forever.
That right there is an unfathomable way alone that proves it's been the Bears. The results speak for themselves. They not only keep failing at QB they've yet to ever develop ANY meaningful quarterbacks, ever! 🤯
Lastly, how his reasoning is even more flawed, it contradicts itself. There's one thing that the Bears have never changed and has stayed the same for decades and technically even longer than that. Ownership! The one thing that keeps bad franchises bad franchises over and over again, year after year, failed player after failed player, OWNERSHIP.
If the Bears F this up again well then not so crazy to think that just maybe, just maybe it could be the Bears who were at fault the entire time.
But hey, if and when they undoubtedly fail at QB again and Caleb busts, Chicago can look at the bright side. We'll be able to admit, agree, and start addressing the prob being all on the same page. 👍
Goooood luuuuuck making THAT kind of change and finally fixing the infinite dumpster fire known as the Chicago Bears quarterback position! 🤣
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Couldn't have stated that better myself. Fan since 1979 and I've seen the McCaskeys be stubborn asl and NOT try to adjust to today's NFL....there's NO EFFIN WAY that you are a flagship franchise, at one point had the most wins in the NFL and you let your team sink to the depths of mediocrity. IMHO, they're just waiting for either:
A. This new stadium which will be in Arlington Heights gets done.
B. Virginia McCaskey to pass away
C. BOTH
...to finally sell this team, which after (A) will be worth upwards of 10B or more depending on if they add a hotels or hotels and other businesses. All that area will be there's to sell!! They wouldn't even need to sell entirely...they could just keep a minority stock in the team and STILL be set for life for that entire family!
Man you seriously gotta do a redo on this video. This segment was great because nobody else agreed with Acho on this. You should've let the others talk and disagree to show how much of a reach at BS this was.
Achos takes are so mind numingly bad I just completely stopped clicking on their vids
I just honestly think you can dictate someone future off the organization past or the person past for that matter shit we all know the bears history with QB so hell less not act like it’s new give him a chance I think he can succeed 💯💯 no bullshit and I’m from Chicago where the bulls be on BULL-SHIT 😂
I played great any position any one years........
Going to play great I think 🤔
Get him a RB to take pressure off the QB
We have quality running backs, 2 damned good ones in fact
How u think 3 year was great huh ......
How u think huh....yr hater
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Only on madden 😂
And no pressure is great for teams