@@kh0357 No, it doesn't. Where's the candy? Why does every single character have a different name? Why is there no mention of Wilford ever being a chocolatier?
In chapter fourteen (audiobook version) of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, the first thing Willy Wonka says about the Oompa Loompas is “my workers are used to extremely hot climate, they’d perish if they went outdoors in this weather- they’d freeze to death!” I wonder if this sentence inspired part of the idea for Snowpiercer.
In the 2005 movie, Wonka mentions his factory must be in a warm temperature because Oompa Loompas come from a warm region. Maybe that explains why in the snow piercer, a world of sub zero temperatures, there are none.
1. Wilford said his position on his train is lonely. Meaning he chose to live in isolation just like willy wonka. 2. Wilford asked curtis “when was the last time you were alone”. He only knew the significance of those words because they both originated from crowded, cramped homes.
@@squashiejoshie200000 To be fair, we don't know if they do interact, that shit was all part of a grand play to manipulate kids to see who's the cream of the crop to take his place, it could be that Wonka does spend his days only speaking to a top Oompa while working on his dark arts.
@@boanoah6362 at the very least, he would need to communicate changes in recipes, supply chain and production priorities. You can't run a factory without at least communicating to your workforce. You're also unlikely to keep them if you don't let them communicate back to you.
@@squashiejoshie200000 Eh, Wonka never seemed to be a logistics guy, he could change recipes and do his thing but I doubt he's ensuring supply lines, trade prices, specifics on production, etc. Further the Oompas seem to man the factory entirely by themselves so it would make sense that if they didn't interact with Wonka directly they'd be under the subordination of a higher ranked Oompa that does handle that stuff.
😐 he got rebuilt after he ate the majority of his body but there wasn’t enough left to know wich gender he had so they gave him a female body (if you are now questioning if he ate his German Weißwurst or not the answer is yes)
In the newer Willy Wonka, there’s a scene when they first enter the factory and they all exclaim how hot it is in the factory. Wonka answers by saying the Oompa Loompas cannot survive in cold climate.
Well it's in the book anyways, “My workers are used to an extremely hot climate! They can’t stand the cold! They’d perish if they went outdoors in this [winter] weather!”
I mean wasn't extinct just the term they used for any good that was no longer attainable due to the train's closed nature? Bullets were referred to as extinct several times. Although it does make me really want to believe this.
if you want a movie like that but instead of getting darker, it just get more sci-fi-ish and crazy, then look no further than the greatest movie of all time, directed by the best director of all time, starring the two best actors of all time. The world's end, directed by Edgar Wright, starring Simon Pegg, Nick Frost, Martin Freeman, Paddy Considine, and Samuel Mak. Enjoy.
It’s also interesting that Curtis is picked even at the poorest or lowest class part of the train. Charlie or Willford wanted to pick a successor with a similar background
@@saulmoses8698 as much as wilford and wonka start with a W? maybe it was to subtly hint and the character similarities. i mean wonka was insane to a degree as well, uncaring towards to families that succumbed to his tests.
the part that always convinces me the most of this is the really weird line from Wilford of his "equipment" for repairing/running the train going "extinct". Its just... so particular, so strange.
It's probably a no go but the human capacity for pattern seeking is immense and sometimes we get gems like this. On the other hand maybe it is real. Who knows. Great ride either way.
As someone who adores A: seeing patterns in vastly different pieces of media, and B: committing to the bit, this is the best video essay I've ever seen
Maybe you'll like this connection, I noticed that Tim Allen plays Santa Claus, the captain on Galaxy Quest, and Buzz Lightyear; so he plays two characters who find out they can fly, and a character who thinks he can fly but can't.
It’s "that piece of equipment went extinct" that did it for me. It’s sounds like such a weird thing to say.. Plus in the context of a small crawl space, it just wraps it up nicely. I accept you proposal.
It's not a weird thing to say. They had been using that expression during the whole movie. Most notably, "bullets are extinct." It was common parlance on the train, where mechanical production didn't really exist.
I think it’s wild, five years later I find myself here once again. To folllow up with WonkaPiercer lore. The amount I talk about this is actually unbelievable. I even made my fiancé watch SnowPiercer and showed her this after.. wild.
You could get the same plot out of just thinking about what if when the world freezes over everybody lives in a train that never stops. Connecting dots is fun but people are obviously very gullible. The dude who made the video even decided not to mention that they refer to other non-living things as extinct on the train. I'm gonna make it cannon in my own head bc art is up for interpretation, but I'm not gonna pretend the guy who made it intended it to be a sequel to Willy Wonka just because of coincidences. Like jar jar binks being a sith lord makes a lot of sense but c'mon you think George Lucas had the time to come up with a whole background plot that nobody is gonna figure out for years while he's writing the actual story for Star Wars? It's kind of self-depricating to make someone who's already a millionaire seem even greater than they actually are just because you drew up some conclusions.
Me at the Beginning of the video: “this is going to be stupid and far-fetched” Me at the middle of the video: “hmmm” Me at the end of the video: “that makes total sense, imma tweet Chris Evans”
This doesnt made any sense. He just compared broad ideas common to many movies and said it makes it sequel....both movies have to do with hope so they must be sequels......OK Boomer
I just freaking noticed that in the book it says that Oompa Loompas survive in only hot climates, Snowpiercer is in cold climates.. which adds to your theory that Oompa Loompas died out.
@@truthforbearer1313 okay let's sing : I caught it bad yesterday You hit me with a call to your place Ain't been out in a while anyway Was hopin' I could catch you throwin' smiles in my face Romantic talkin'? You don't even have to try You're cute enough to f- with me tonight Lookin' at the table and I see the reason why Baby, you livin' the life, but baby, you ain't livin' right Champagne and drinkin' with your friends You live in the dark, boy, I cannot pretend I'm not fazed, only here to sin If Eve ain't in your garden, you know that you can Call me when you want, call me when you need Call me in the morning, I'll be on the way Call me when you want, call me when you need Call me out by your name, I'll be on the way like Mmm, mmm, mmm Mmm, mmm, mmm Ayy, ayy I wanna sell what you're buyin' I wanna feel on your - in Hawaii I want that jet lag from f- and flyin' Put a smile on your mouth while I'm... Oh, oh, oh, why me? A sign of the times every time that I speak A dime and a nine, it was mine every week What a time, an incline, God was shinin' on me Now I can't leave And now I'm actin' hella elite Never want the - that's in my league I only want the ones I envy, I envy Champagne and drinkin' with your friends You live in the dark, boy, I cannot pretend I'm not fazed, only here to sin If Eve ain't in your garden, you know that you can Call me when you want, call me when you need Call me in the morning, I'll be on the way Call me when you want, call me when you need Call me out by your name, I'll be on the way like Oh, call me by your name (mmm, mmm, mmm) Tell me you love me in private Call me by your name (mmm, mmm, mmm) I do not care if you lyin' Well I'm just feelin', mm-uh I wanna get, mm-uh I'm in my, into my, uh I'm mm, mm I'm still, mm, mm-mm
This is one killer theory. I mean even the adult "Charlie" says the piece of equipment to maintain the engine went extinct. Extinct is an interesting word to use, often times used for when a living species if gone. As in the Oompa Loompa species went extinct.
Though in the movie they call anything that they run out of extinct like bullets, it could be possible this term originated from Wilford describing Oompa Loompas
“My workers are used to an extremely hot climate! They can’t stand the cold! They’d perish if they went outdoors in this [winter] weather!” (Dahl in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, pg.69) This is just Wild!
@Thejas Kodoth LOL did you get the book I love it I feel like I saw your responses in this post and now you have the book I also keep returning back to this post and the comments are just so great and this is just such a part of my every day life now just thinking about this theory! I also came across another theory the red brick theory that says Oz from the Wizard of Oz is Wonka’s father a little bit more far-fetched but I think it’s totally possible
@@Salena905 i think the reason its "dark" is that it wasn't really considered bad back then, its a product of the time Its the same case with hokuto no ken its a shonen yet its more violent than most r rated movies
@@cretaceoussteve3527 yeah there always has been dark in the world and will still be in the coming future, However there's always been more light and always will be as we all wouldn't be here commenting . ☺️
@@Salena905 In the original sleeping beauty the prince doesn’t wake her with a kiss. Instead he rapes her sleeping corpse for years, getting her pregnant repeatedly, until one day one of her children sucks on her fingers and accidentally removes the poison spindle, waking her from her slumber. In snow white the evil queen asks the huntsman to literally cut her daughters heart from her chest and bring it to her. Then in the end the queen is forced to dance at snow whites wedding by having her feet forced into red hot iron shoes, causing so much pain that she dances herself right off a cliff. In the original version of cinderella the evil step-sisters cut off their toes so that their feet would fit in the shoe. In Hansel and Gretel the two children are abandoned by their parents in the wood, lured into the house of a cannibal, and then commit murder by burning someone alive in an oven (something that is particularly fucked up when you remember its a _german_ fairy tale). Little Red Riding Hood features an adult wolf harassing and stalking a young girl through the woods, cannibalizing her grandmother, attempting to kill cannibalize her, and then getting hacked apart by an axe. The bible stories they teach children in sunday school involve such child friendly topics as incest, rape, global genocide, slavery, attempted child murder and human sacrifice, crucifixion, cannibalism, suicide, the stoning to death of children, rivers of blood, demons, prostitution, genital mutilation, and a litany of other serious topics despite coming from a holy book. Dorothy arrives in the Land of Oz by committing a highly celebrated murder. Then she hunts down and kills her victims sibling by literally liquifying all her internal organs. Alice in Wonderland encourages children to consume any mind offering substance offered to them by a stranger so long as its marked “eat me” or “drink me”. Kids are tougher than you give them credit for. And a story can contain very dark elements while still being intended for children. You can’t shelter and blind them to the world forever, at some point everyone needs to start living in reality, and fiction can find a safe place for children to explore some of the darker or scarier elements of reality while remaining perfectly safe at home, which leaves them better prepared for when they do encounter real dangers later on, so they won’t be blindsided. Indeed, the prevalence of dark storytelling elements in early fairy tales was not a mistake, as Disney would have you believe, but instead an intentional choice on the part of the parents who would pass those stories down to their children. Fairy tales often involve people getting lost or kidnapped, not because the parents telling their children them wanted to lose them, but instead because they wanted to teach them about the dangers that might exist so that the children would have sufficient fear to avoid allowing that to happen in the first place. They tell stories of people being poisoned so often so that people know to avoid taking candy from strangers. These stories are part of an oral tradition that was designed both to entertain, but also to educate. Fantastical elements are added to attract the child’s attention, while morals are slipped in so that when the story cements itself in the child’s mind the lesson will cement itself as well. Its a very effective mnemonic device to use in child rearing, since often the child won’t realize thats whats happening at all, so they won’t resist it the way they might, say, homework. Willy Wonka, like most of Roald Dahl’s books, falls into this genre and takes many if its story beats from them. Including the underlying darkness. However being a fundamentally Christian narrative the danger the story seeks to frighten children away from is not an immediate physical one like kidnapping, but instead the concept of sin. Each golden ticket represents admission into the kingdom of heaven, and each of the children’s grisly fates represents them giving into the sin they represent. Even Charlie, initially presented as a good man, is proven to be guilty of sin when he is tempted into sin by the worldly influence of Grandpa Joe (Who is Sloth, btw). And it is only when Charlie repents for his sins and is forgiven by Wonka Christ that he is able to enter into heaven, as symbolized by the great glass elevator literally flying into the sky, as the meek inherit the kingdom if god and get everything they’ve ever wanted, while the sinful are drawn into the pit instead. With Slugworth representing Satan, hired by god to tempt people into sin to test if they are worthy of inheriting his kingdom. The Oompa Loompa’s angels who serve god, maintain the kingdom, and sing in his presence. While there certainly are dark elements, that is because christianity has always relied on eliciting fear by stressing the negative consequences of committing sin to achieve the best results. But just because a Sunday school teacher tells kids they’ll go to hell if they steal and don’t repent doesn’t mean that Sunday school wasn’t made for said kids. Its just how a culture preserves itself and passes its values on to the next generation. By embedding them in stories that have emotional resonance.
@@Wertsir whoa 😯... I've heard bits about one or two of these , but not all of them especially the sleeping beauty one, 😩 Oh my god! Thanks for talking the time to share this info. These are both horrific, yet fascinating at the same time 🤔, yet if you made these real stories nowadays, they'd just seem like other horror stories,but still very gross etc. 😱
I just came back to this video after seeing part two, and the “I know what people taste like… *ROAST BEEF AND A BAKED POTATO* *MMMMMM* ” really got me lmao
I do believe pennywise was po because he's so small and always get bullied by dipsey and laa laa, he crawl into a tunnel that lead to human world and found georgie
notice how the kids were quiet and did what they were told to do as a job by willford and they did not even talk to curtis just like the oompa loompas.
I mean yeah, it's stupid, but most whimsical things are. It's true you can do it with pretty much any two films, but there's something special about this. Probably because it was just so ridiculous, not to mention well made. tl;dr 5/7 perfect video
Here's the thing. If a person can do that aptly, I'll watch their content. If you can go deeper than something like, "they both play guitar left-handed... the end," I'll give you a shot. I don't necessarily believe the author (and from the sound of it, he's not 100% convinced himself), but I do appreciate the ability to look at something with a completely different angle. I keep hearing comparisons with this video to MatPat stuff. I agree, but it's more in line with MatPat's old content (which is why I subbed to him in the first place) where the author takes a theory and expands on it as much as possible, as opposed to his new SEO driven schlock GT's been cranking out for the last couple of years. If one can literally do this with any two films, I'm down. Get cranking on some videos.
thats the only part that made sense TBH. And its still not very true since oompa loompas were supposed to go extinct before people even got to the train, yet he said that the part went extinct recently. 17 years is not recently.
@@basicpenguin3844 Recently is a relative term. If a species has existed for hundreds or thousands of years and only went extinct a decade or two ago, then it would still be fair to call that recently from a historical perspective.
Holy shit. To be honest, I went into this video thinking it was going to be absolutely ridiculous but your points and observations are incredible. I'm impressed that you picked up on such small yet significant details and were able to articulate them so well. One of the best video essays I've ever watched. I'm definitely going to think of this theory whenever I watch Snowpiercer or willy Wonka now!
Absolutely. Read the sequel where they go to the hotel in space and find everyone eaten by the Flemoids from Chex Quest. Roald Dahl is the Stephen King of kid's books.
At 10:04 when Tilda Swinton's character eats a piece of the insect block. At that exact moment my girlfriend walks into the room and sees the image on full screen and says, "What's that? That looks like the chocolate factory movie." It was on full screen, so she couldn't have known I was watching a video about this theory. I paused and asked why she thought so and she just said that the imagery reminded her of the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory movie. Kinda crazy, I didn't see it at first, but the style is actually quite similar.
I've never seen Snow Piercer, and when I saw the same character, I definitely thought of Willy Wonka for sure. With everything else on this video, theres just no way it's not the sequel. The W label and characters are spot on. I think the movie would have been a bigger hit if they would have labeled it as a Sequel. But that's just me. I can't wait to see SP now lol
@@shawnnixon2616 The Snowpiercer show just made huge wink to this theory by the end of season 2, Either creators of the show are aware of the theory and are deliberately trolling, or there really is something to it.
Holy crap. This is one of the best catches ever in linked movies. You're right. You can see it once laid out. I must have watched the 70's Wonka movie a hundred times and none of this occurred to me when watching snow piercer. That is totally V. Salt in that role 😅.
I was simply amused and intrigued until the bit the explained Willard needed to use Children because they were the only ones small enough to operate the machinery originally designed by the Oompa Loompas... after that my mind was blown. There is literally no other reason why those control areas should be so small. Holy shit.
@Jack K Im not interested in either of these things either but the video was great. sure Willy Wonka will always be a timeless classic but Its never on my mind. Ive never watched snowpiercer but this video made me want to watch it
Im still not convinced. The connections he made were way too vague. "This movie has a psycopathic gunner and that one does as well so they must be related" And that was one of the better connections :T . The only one that was almost plausible was the oompa loompas theory. It makes sense cuz its said in the book that they cant survive cold climates and in the movie it was said that the part went extinct recently so they had to replace them with kids oompa loompa's height. Yet if they cant survive cold climates, they would've went extinct way sooner, like 17 years sooner, not just "recently".
My friend once (literally once) showed me the movie you opened this video with and after a decade and a half and I have never been able to find it on Google. Thank you for name dropping it.
Anybody remember that "every frame of painting "UA-cam channel,? that's when memories of murder became one of my favorite movies, I love it every time I can find a essay on his.movies
To be honest, this concept makes Snowpiercer actually make sense. Edited Side Note: Contrary to what one might think, I in no way "believe" this concept to be true. It is just that - a concept. In fact, an intriguing concept formed and expressed to fellow creative minds.
@@nathanm4444 it goes to show you what you will except if they sugarcoat it. And its horrible. The point of the reveal was to expose this fact. Be careful friends.
Joon Ho Bong visited my college campus today and said that some of the most influential films he saw as a child were American films from the 70’s.... Willy Wonka came out in 1971
I like the connections you draw. While I can't just drool over a theory that they're chronologically linked, I can say with confidence that Bong Jun-Ho was a huge Willy Wonka fan. He definitely intended Snowpiercer to be a low-key spiritual successor to WW.
Today I learned that a Snowpiercer tv series is becoming a thing and the commercial I saw for it used the theme for Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Someone on the show's marketing team must have seem this video.
Like, how does someone’s brain do this? How do you watch this movie then think to yourself, “huh, you know what this movie about a blood soaked revolution on a post apocalyptic train reminds me of? Charlie and the chocolate factory!” Like what the fuck I must admit, the theory is really fun.
Dude straight masterpiece. I'm glad this lived on in your head for years, eventually gestating, because you crafted this perfectly. And sure did save the kill shot for the ending! Excellent video, structured argument, plenty of humor, and packed into under 15 minutes. Well done!
@@wujkmusic he could. There is always a chance you are born with a mutation that stimulates one or many senses. I for example have oversensitive skin which means i senses temperatures as higher than they are in terms of anything warmer than 30* or lower than it really is is is below 15*. Some people have really sensitive smell so they can even tell what ingredients you used for that meaty stew of yours. Same goes for everything except eyesight. You can precept more details but you cannot per say see smaller elements of the world.
Kids being drowned , burnt and having the trauma of being intoxicated and turned into a blueberry plus almost being slashed to shreds by a ceiling fan:exists Oompa Loompas : is this dance party?
I’m going to be honest I came to this video from a comment on Instagram real and I didn’t think that I would be impressed but I am not kidding when I say this this makes 100% perfect sense. I could 100% this and I do 100% believe this.
Have you seen the movie? He wasn't talking about either. He was referring to the machine part that literally broke and now required a tiny hand to function in its place.
Well parasite did sweep this past oscars which was also directed by bong joon ho and it was a genius film and really most of his films are incredibly unique and twisted so I wouldn’t put it past him
@12:14 PROOVES EVERYTHING! "The space only allows for a small person. The engine lasts forever, not so all its parts. That piece of equipment...went extict recently."
A connection you've missed is that Swinton was affecting a Yorkshire accent for apparently no reason (nobody else does)... But, Veruca's father is the only character in Willy Wonka with that particular accent. Probably a coincidence but definitely a weird one.
stage direction sometimes incorporates these changes. Like the couple slowly walking away at the end of pulp fiction. the script called for them to *run*, but someone decided *during* filming that the slow-walk of fear and defeat made way more sense.
@@meghanlee9768 Lol when i was a kid i was always scared of the movie (The newer version) because of the weird music idk it disturbs me and because the fat dude got sucked into that filter tube thing and it disturbed me so much
Forget what Chris Evans thinks about it, I wanna know what Bong Joon Hoo thinks about this. Either he’s flustered by the uncanny resemblance or he’s like “you SoB, you figured it out”
The ultimate "Just hear me out" video
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@@3xoticG4m3r ok eddie you don't need to speak in the third person
LMAO
but it makes sense
@@kh0357 No, it doesn't. Where's the candy? Why does every single character have a different name? Why is there no mention of Wilford ever being a chocolatier?
In chapter fourteen (audiobook version) of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, the first thing Willy Wonka says about the Oompa Loompas is “my workers are used to extremely hot climate, they’d perish if they went outdoors in this weather- they’d freeze to death!”
I wonder if this sentence inspired part of the idea for Snowpiercer.
You sir, have consensually fucked my mind up, I believe it even more
That was dark...
YO WAT
Bruh
good deduction my guy
In the 2005 movie, Wonka mentions his factory must be in a warm temperature because Oompa Loompas come from a warm region. Maybe that explains why in the snow piercer, a world of sub zero temperatures, there are none.
That, and we don't rewllt see any female oompa loompas. I don't think anyway....I may be wrong. So don't hold me on that.
@@maximuspower4439 ive never seen a female loompa lol
Did y'all forget about Doris?
@@maximuspower4439 how do you know they don't pop out of the ground like gnomes?
@@maximuspower4439 Well, for all that we know we're seeing them all the time. I mean, nobody has beards, and in those weird clothing, who'd know?
1. Wilford said his position on his train is lonely. Meaning he chose to live in isolation just like willy wonka.
2. Wilford asked curtis “when was the last time you were alone”. He only knew the significance of those words because they both originated from crowded, cramped homes.
Willy Wonka really chose to live in isolation with his thousands of intelligent speaking friends who he interacted with on a daily basis.
@@squashiejoshie200000 To be fair, we don't know if they do interact, that shit was all part of a grand play to manipulate kids to see who's the cream of the crop to take his place, it could be that Wonka does spend his days only speaking to a top Oompa while working on his dark arts.
@@boanoah6362 at the very least, he would need to communicate changes in recipes, supply chain and production priorities. You can't run a factory without at least communicating to your workforce. You're also unlikely to keep them if you don't let them communicate back to you.
@@squashiejoshie200000 Eh, Wonka never seemed to be a logistics guy, he could change recipes and do his thing but I doubt he's ensuring supply lines, trade prices, specifics on production, etc. Further the Oompas seem to man the factory entirely by themselves so it would make sense that if they didn't interact with Wonka directly they'd be under the subordination of a higher ranked Oompa that does handle that stuff.
Wait bro, so the train IS the factory 🤯
The transition from the boy with the gun to the man on the train shooting someone was so perfect it was scary.
FRRRR
what time stamp was it
@@MeinGoobbyXI 8:33
His transitions are phenomenal.
Not scary it was amazing. I rewatched it like 10 time. Perfectly placed
Who else thought he was going to say Augustus got a sex change
not going to lie, I was sweating a little bit
Impulsive behaviour no consideration just woke up one day didn’t consider the long last effects bam sex change
11:00 he said the sister not that the person was agustus
😐 he got rebuilt after he ate the majority of his body but there wasn’t enough left to know wich gender he had so they gave him a female body (if you are now questioning if he ate his German Weißwurst or not the answer is yes)
me
In the newer Willy Wonka, there’s a scene when they first enter the factory and they all exclaim how hot it is in the factory. Wonka answers by saying the Oompa Loompas cannot survive in cold climate.
boom
@Gavin Wood I second that notion
Well it's in the book anyways, “My workers are used to an extremely hot climate! They can’t stand the cold! They’d perish if they went outdoors in this [winter] weather!”
Willy wanker lol
@Gavin Wood Glad the young ones are watching the originals! I agree fuck the new one ... Its shit.
The hard cut from Mike Teevee shooting a toy gun to that guy's cold blooded murder was downright cinematic.
Had to go back, cleeeeeeean editing
8:34
a myriad of youtube directives flew, scrambled and unreadable, throw my head at that moment!
"-that piece of equipment went *extinct* , recently " - Wilfred
after hearing that i am 100% agreeing with this theory
I mean wasn't extinct just the term they used for any good that was no longer attainable due to the train's closed nature? Bullets were referred to as extinct several times.
Although it does make me really want to believe this.
@@magnusanderson6681 Maybe they were called that to cover for this important statement that would seem weird otherwise.
I think what is most important is the emphasis he put on the word extinct. I didn’t really notice it until this video.
It fits like a glove in this theory
SmartK8 yeah because if you said there are no bullets left but then said that a piece had gone extinct it would be pretty weird
This guy praising the director before Parasites came out, Aged like some fine wine my dude.
Bong boy from birth to death baby! Although i still havent seen the first first one
Parasite was good
Tony2201 yeah what the fuck ever dude
if you want a movie like that but instead of getting darker, it just get more sci-fi-ish and crazy, then look no further than the greatest movie of all time, directed by the best director of all time, starring the two best actors of all time. The world's end, directed by Edgar Wright, starring Simon Pegg, Nick Frost, Martin Freeman, Paddy Considine, and Samuel Mak. Enjoy.
@@BG-gr6vc you sounds like the dude who peaked in high school
It’s also interesting that Curtis is picked even at the poorest or lowest class part of the train. Charlie or Willford wanted to pick a successor with a similar background
And both Curtis and Charlie start with a C
@@colegoldman6610 I think that's bit of a stretch
@@colegoldman6610 a little bit farce fetched isn't it?
@@saulmoses8698 as much as wilford and wonka start with a W? maybe it was to subtly hint and the character similarities. i mean wonka was insane to a degree as well, uncaring towards to families that succumbed to his tests.
@@ls200076 this whole video is
the part that always convinces me the most of this is the really weird line from Wilford of his "equipment" for repairing/running the train going "extinct". Its just... so particular, so strange.
They say it multiple times in the film to refer to things that no longer exist on the train such as cigarettes and bullets
@@davidvasey5065 you must accept this david
@@davidvasey5065still,a part that can be replaced with children. My thinking is that it would be an animal of some sort. Perhaps a dog?
That's facts though
@@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185 probably just some mechanical part that they've run out of replacements for
First of all: This is ridiculous.
Second of all: This is genius.
The only comment that is sane
Comfy Frog wheres proof
It is this guy's charisma that is fooling us all. These two movies are not related at all. Still love the theory though.
3rd of all: ..........
@Vince Elacion so fucking true
I thought this video was a joke, but then It started bringing up really good evidence and I got confused.
While not confirmed, the statements fit almost perfectly.
It’s a lot easier to look around you and amalgamate and hire oompa Lompas then come up with your own candy flavors and ideas.
ITS NO JOKE its a Very sound theory
You and me both brotha or sistah?
It's probably a no go but the human capacity for pattern seeking is immense and sometimes we get gems like this. On the other hand maybe it is real. Who knows. Great ride either way.
My intellectual ability: Why TERMINATOR 2 is a sequel of THE TERMNATOR
The 2, dead giveaway.
@@TehPwnographer What do you say about Alien / Aliens? Is it the "s"? :)
@@TehPwnographerMe: Why the Lion King 1 and a 1/2, is a sequel to Lion King 2
Actually terminator series is the prequel to the matrix
IMPOSSIBLE. THERE'S NO WAY!
:p
As someone who adores A: seeing patterns in vastly different pieces of media, and B: committing to the bit, this is the best video essay I've ever seen
Have you seen anything from What Is AntiLogic? It’s an amazing channel with tons of theories
Maybe you'll like this connection, I noticed that Tim Allen plays Santa Claus, the captain on Galaxy Quest, and Buzz Lightyear; so he plays two characters who find out they can fly, and a character who thinks he can fly but can't.
Just wanted to say that "B: commiting to the bit" is a fcking hilarious phrase. Great comment.
I remember doing a college essay on the similarities between Firefly and the original Star Wars trilogy. Mainly mal and solo
It’s "that piece of equipment went extinct" that did it for me. It’s sounds like such a weird thing to say.. Plus in the context of a small crawl space, it just wraps it up nicely. I accept you proposal.
I agree
All who agree say “I”.
I.
It's not a weird thing to say. They had been using that expression during the whole movie. Most notably, "bullets are extinct." It was common parlance on the train, where mechanical production didn't really exist.
The longer I watched this video the more believable it became
So... basically we all slept on this. Woooowwwww.
“The equipment went extinct” .... Alright, i'm completely sold
that’s when my jaw dropped
Patrick Star: "I'll take ten!!!"
Fr that just seals the deal
Yeah that sold it for me tbh.
Yeah also the fact that he explains how he needed small people for it...man that's crazy
This is the most outrageous, diabolical, insane, and ludicrous thing ive ever heard of. And it makes perfect sense. And I love it.
Werd!🤯
I think it’s wild, five years later I find myself here once again. To folllow up with WonkaPiercer lore. The amount I talk about this is actually unbelievable. I even made my fiancé watch SnowPiercer and showed her this after.. wild.
You could get the same plot out of just thinking about what if when the world freezes over everybody lives in a train that never stops. Connecting dots is fun but people are obviously very gullible. The dude who made the video even decided not to mention that they refer to other non-living things as extinct on the train.
I'm gonna make it cannon in my own head bc art is up for interpretation, but I'm not gonna pretend the guy who made it intended it to be a sequel to Willy Wonka just because of coincidences. Like jar jar binks being a sith lord makes a lot of sense but c'mon you think George Lucas had the time to come up with a whole background plot that nobody is gonna figure out for years while he's writing the actual story for Star Wars? It's kind of self-depricating to make someone who's already a millionaire seem even greater than they actually are just because you drew up some conclusions.
Me at the Beginning of the video: “this is going to be stupid and far-fetched”
Me at the middle of the video: “hmmm”
Me at the end of the video: “that makes total sense, imma tweet Chris Evans”
back in october 2018 he saw this video 18 days after it came out and literally doged the question so hard lol
@@killersnake0024 how??? What did he said???
@@killersnake0024 I WANT TO KNOW MORE!
Brilliant
This doesnt made any sense. He just compared broad ideas common to many movies and said it makes it sequel....both movies have to do with hope so they must be sequels......OK Boomer
If my memory serves me correctly, in the books it says that oompa loompas can't survive in the cold...
oH FUCK YOURE RIGHT
Holy shit!
Uh oh...
Kevin Hartman . Well rip
Yeah and I remember the factory was kept hot
I just freaking noticed that in the book it says that Oompa Loompas survive in only hot climates, Snowpiercer is in cold climates.. which adds to your theory that Oompa Loompas died out.
They represent the little people like us. The middle class, what does that say about us?...
@@truthforbearer1313 we can dance and sing?
@@fikrifahrizal482 as long as it’s holy and not anything perverted sure, why not.
I sing all the time. Not much of a dancer but that’s just me. 😃
Wait, so this whole time, Climate change was actually good for the Oompa Loompas?
God fucking dammit UN, you screwed us all.
@@truthforbearer1313 okay let's sing :
I caught it bad yesterday
You hit me with a call to your place
Ain't been out in a while anyway
Was hopin' I could catch you throwin' smiles in my face
Romantic talkin'? You don't even have to try
You're cute enough to f- with me tonight
Lookin' at the table and I see the reason why
Baby, you livin' the life, but baby, you ain't livin' right
Champagne and drinkin' with your friends
You live in the dark, boy, I cannot pretend
I'm not fazed, only here to sin
If Eve ain't in your garden, you know that you can
Call me when you want, call me when you need
Call me in the morning, I'll be on the way
Call me when you want, call me when you need
Call me out by your name, I'll be on the way like
Mmm, mmm, mmm
Mmm, mmm, mmm
Ayy, ayy
I wanna sell what you're buyin'
I wanna feel on your - in Hawaii
I want that jet lag from f- and flyin'
Put a smile on your mouth while I'm...
Oh, oh, oh, why me?
A sign of the times every time that I speak
A dime and a nine, it was mine every week
What a time, an incline, God was shinin' on me
Now I can't leave
And now I'm actin' hella elite
Never want the - that's in my league
I only want the ones I envy, I envy
Champagne and drinkin' with your friends
You live in the dark, boy, I cannot pretend
I'm not fazed, only here to sin
If Eve ain't in your garden, you know that you can
Call me when you want, call me when you need
Call me in the morning, I'll be on the way
Call me when you want, call me when you need
Call me out by your name, I'll be on the way like
Oh, call me by your name (mmm, mmm, mmm)
Tell me you love me in private
Call me by your name (mmm, mmm, mmm)
I do not care if you lyin'
Well I'm just feelin', mm-uh
I wanna get, mm-uh
I'm in my, into my, uh
I'm mm, mm
I'm still, mm, mm-mm
This is one killer theory. I mean even the adult "Charlie" says the piece of equipment to maintain the engine went extinct. Extinct is an interesting word to use, often times used for when a living species if gone. As in the Oompa Loompa species went extinct.
And the oompa loompas are the same size as children too
Though in the movie they call anything that they run out of extinct like bullets, it could be possible this term originated from Wilford describing Oompa Loompas
“My workers are used to an extremely hot climate! They can’t stand the cold! They’d perish if they went outdoors in this [winter] weather!” (Dahl in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, pg.69)
This is just Wild!
Me: *sees the page number* Nice
Masked- imator noice
Nice
@Thejas Kodoth LOL did you get the book I love it I feel like I saw your responses in this post and now you have the book I also keep returning back to this post and the comments are just so great and this is just such a part of my every day life now just thinking about this theory! I also came across another theory the red brick theory that says Oz from the Wizard of Oz is Wonka’s father a little bit more far-fetched but I think it’s totally possible
That's Fucking CRAZY
That “equipment went extinct” line was a solid point can’t even lie
actually that changed my thought from "this is total bullshit" to "it now makes sense"
@@deadmanwalking4253 like how can equipment go extinct unless it was his bad choice of words
@@watterson.darwin he was referring to the oompa loompas as the 'equipment' as they were man-made by willy wonka
@@harbaazdacow2279 yeah I know
Even the fact that the first movie is “for kids” and the second is “for adults” fits in this amazing theory!!
@@Salena905 i think the reason its "dark" is that it wasn't really considered bad back then, its a product of the time
Its the same case with hokuto no ken its a shonen yet its more violent than most r rated movies
@@cretaceoussteve3527 yeah there always has been dark in the world and will still be in the coming future, However there's always been more light and always will be as we all wouldn't be here commenting . ☺️
@@Salena905 In the original sleeping beauty the prince doesn’t wake her with a kiss. Instead he rapes her sleeping corpse for years, getting her pregnant repeatedly, until one day one of her children sucks on her fingers and accidentally removes the poison spindle, waking her from her slumber.
In snow white the evil queen asks the huntsman to literally cut her daughters heart from her chest and bring it to her. Then in the end the queen is forced to dance at snow whites wedding by having her feet forced into red hot iron shoes, causing so much pain that she dances herself right off a cliff.
In the original version of cinderella the evil step-sisters cut off their toes so that their feet would fit in the shoe.
In Hansel and Gretel the two children are abandoned by their parents in the wood, lured into the house of a cannibal, and then commit murder by burning someone alive in an oven (something that is particularly fucked up when you remember its a _german_ fairy tale).
Little Red Riding Hood features an adult wolf harassing and stalking a young girl through the woods, cannibalizing her grandmother, attempting to kill cannibalize her, and then getting hacked apart by an axe.
The bible stories they teach children in sunday school involve such child friendly topics as incest, rape, global genocide, slavery, attempted child murder and human sacrifice, crucifixion, cannibalism, suicide, the stoning to death of children, rivers of blood, demons, prostitution, genital mutilation, and a litany of other serious topics despite coming from a holy book.
Dorothy arrives in the Land of Oz by committing a highly celebrated murder. Then she hunts down and kills her victims sibling by literally liquifying all her internal organs.
Alice in Wonderland encourages children to consume any mind offering substance offered to them by a stranger so long as its marked “eat me” or “drink me”.
Kids are tougher than you give them credit for. And a story can contain very dark elements while still being intended for children. You can’t shelter and blind them to the world forever, at some point everyone needs to start living in reality, and fiction can find a safe place for children to explore some of the darker or scarier elements of reality while remaining perfectly safe at home, which leaves them better prepared for when they do encounter real dangers later on, so they won’t be blindsided.
Indeed, the prevalence of dark storytelling elements in early fairy tales was not a mistake, as Disney would have you believe, but instead an intentional choice on the part of the parents who would pass those stories down to their children. Fairy tales often involve people getting lost or kidnapped, not because the parents telling their children them wanted to lose them, but instead because they wanted to teach them about the dangers that might exist so that the children would have sufficient fear to avoid allowing that to happen in the first place. They tell stories of people being poisoned so often so that people know to avoid taking candy from strangers.
These stories are part of an oral tradition that was designed both to entertain, but also to educate. Fantastical elements are added to attract the child’s attention, while morals are slipped in so that when the story cements itself in the child’s mind the lesson will cement itself as well. Its a very effective mnemonic device to use in child rearing, since often the child won’t realize thats whats happening at all, so they won’t resist it the way they might, say, homework.
Willy Wonka, like most of Roald Dahl’s books, falls into this genre and takes many if its story beats from them. Including the underlying darkness. However being a fundamentally Christian narrative the danger the story seeks to frighten children away from is not an immediate physical one like kidnapping, but instead the concept of sin. Each golden ticket represents admission into the kingdom of heaven, and each of the children’s grisly fates represents them giving into the sin they represent.
Even Charlie, initially presented as a good man, is proven to be guilty of sin when he is tempted into sin by the worldly influence of Grandpa Joe (Who is Sloth, btw). And it is only when Charlie repents for his sins and is forgiven by Wonka Christ that he is able to enter into heaven, as symbolized by the great glass elevator literally flying into the sky, as the meek inherit the kingdom if god and get everything they’ve ever wanted, while the sinful are drawn into the pit instead. With Slugworth representing Satan, hired by god to tempt people into sin to test if they are worthy of inheriting his kingdom. The Oompa Loompa’s angels who serve god, maintain the kingdom, and sing in his presence.
While there certainly are dark elements, that is because christianity has always relied on eliciting fear by stressing the negative consequences of committing sin to achieve the best results. But just because a Sunday school teacher tells kids they’ll go to hell if they steal and don’t repent doesn’t mean that Sunday school wasn’t made for said kids. Its just how a culture preserves itself and passes its values on to the next generation. By embedding them in stories that have emotional resonance.
@@Wertsir whoa 😯... I've heard bits about one or two of these , but not all of them especially the sleeping beauty one, 😩 Oh my god! Thanks for talking the time to share this info. These are both horrific, yet fascinating at the same time 🤔, yet if you made these real stories nowadays, they'd just seem like other horror stories,but still very gross etc. 😱
It's a goofy theory
I just came back to this video after seeing part two, and the “I know what people taste like… *ROAST BEEF AND A BAKED POTATO* *MMMMMM* ” really got me lmao
brilliant
Can't wait to hear why Teletubbies are the prequel to IT
Ayyyyyy we have the same pfp our accounts are 3 years old with 11 subscribers just to add on
@@Nick-ox4ei Yoooooo y'all got the same profile pic as me!!
@@JaguarKnight-hk7gl no they don't!
@@alexeiharp7676 yes they dont
I do believe pennywise was po because he's so small and always get bullied by dipsey and laa laa, he crawl into a tunnel that lead to human world and found georgie
The Oompa Loompa connection is horrifyingly solid.
Yea I was kinda on the " train " but as soon as he made that point I was like ok
notice how the kids were quiet and did what they were told to do as a job by willford and they did not even talk to curtis just like the oompa loompas.
Yes!! That was my oh sh$t moment
I was pretty sure that in the book, i read "oompa loompas can't stand the cold". That really ties in too good with the story of snowpiercer
Holy shit my mind was blown at this part.....
...I hate how good this is.
Really? It's pretty fucking stupid.
You can do this with literally any two films.
"They both hide messages in food"
weak shit bro
I mean yeah, it's stupid, but most whimsical things are. It's true you can do it with pretty much any two films, but there's something special about this. Probably because it was just so ridiculous, not to mention well made.
tl;dr 5/7 perfect video
haha yeah lets see him even attract the flies in my room to watch. Doubt it.
Here's the thing. If a person can do that aptly, I'll watch their content. If you can go deeper than something like, "they both play guitar left-handed... the end," I'll give you a shot. I don't necessarily believe the author (and from the sound of it, he's not 100% convinced himself), but I do appreciate the ability to look at something with a completely different angle.
I keep hearing comparisons with this video to MatPat stuff. I agree, but it's more in line with MatPat's old content (which is why I subbed to him in the first place) where the author takes a theory and expands on it as much as possible, as opposed to his new SEO driven schlock GT's been cranking out for the last couple of years.
If one can literally do this with any two films, I'm down. Get cranking on some videos.
Do you like comics and is your name drake?
I’m surprised nobody mentioned the fact that the decor in the engine room looks like giant fucking chocolate bars
13:37 I mean his final moment literally looks like he’s dying against a chocolate bar
So, I just watched the movie.
And I hate that this makes sense. Especially the "That part went extinct recently" line.
Yeah it's said in the book that oompa loompas can't survive in cold climates
@@dsend_ WOW SHIT
thats the only part that made sense TBH. And its still not very true since oompa loompas were supposed to go extinct before people even got to the train, yet he said that the part went extinct recently. 17 years is not recently.
@@basicpenguin3844 when talking about an extinction 17 years is pretty recent. Especially if your talkin about a species of humans!
@@basicpenguin3844 Recently is a relative term. If a species has existed for hundreds or thousands of years and only went extinct a decade or two ago, then it would still be fair to call that recently from a historical perspective.
Directors of Snowpiercer be like: "finally someone who cracked the code!'
@@LordBackuro then how about you watch memories of murder that movie will your mind explode
Or "what?"
Also they made a show about this movie and in one of the trailers they used the willy wonka song
@@lukepalmer9821 Capitalism is superior and is the reason why we’re not stuck in the 1800s
@@lukepalmer9821 Weird. The movie is about socialism. How did that fly over your head?
just realized that even the protein bars, the food given to the tail people, kinda look like chocolate bars... bruh
If my memories are correct
cockroach bar was based on yokan (Japanese jellybars)
Wait WOT?!
holy shit this is the video that I've been looking for since I watched this a few years ago
Not really
What are you saying?
Holy shit. To be honest, I went into this video thinking it was going to be absolutely ridiculous but your points and observations are incredible. I'm impressed that you picked up on such small yet significant details and were able to articulate them so well. One of the best video essays I've ever watched. I'm definitely going to think of this theory whenever I watch Snowpiercer or willy Wonka now!
I think going with "wonkapiercer" works a lot more than "willypiercer"
Willypiercer, it pierces your willy
Haha
“Prince Albert: The Movie”
SnowWilly
No just no wtf
Snowpiercer: hey can I copy your homework
Wonka: yea just change it up so the teacher doesn’t know
Teacher: "Why SNOWPIERCER is a sequel to WILLY WONKA AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY"
He still turned it in late
😂😂😂
Facts
lol
The plot of Willy Wonka is literally a horror movie dressed as a sweet candy.
It's literally Saw, but for kids.
Absolutely. Read the sequel where they go to the hotel in space and find everyone eaten by the Flemoids from Chex Quest. Roald Dahl is the Stephen King of kid's books.
Wtf
@@RyanFromUltrasound i can't tell if your serious or not.
@@jobeelms4694 100% serious. its called 'Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator'
I love theories like this, which connect universes that don't seem to go together. By the end of this one, I was convinced.
"They both have fur coats.."
..well, that's all the evidence I need.
Hiz Oku lmao
It's undeniable proof!
To be fair, if it IS actually a sequel, and a director wanted to throw in subtle hints, that's how they would do it.
Both white, thats all the evidence i need
NO LIES DETECTED
At 10:04 when Tilda Swinton's character eats a piece of the insect block. At that exact moment my girlfriend walks into the room and sees the image on full screen and says, "What's that? That looks like the chocolate factory movie." It was on full screen, so she couldn't have known I was watching a video about this theory.
I paused and asked why she thought so and she just said that the imagery reminded her of the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory movie. Kinda crazy, I didn't see it at first, but the style is actually quite similar.
I see it wow🤯
don't lie, you don't have girlfriend
Ruthkanda moment
I've never seen Snow Piercer, and when I saw the same character, I definitely thought of Willy Wonka for sure. With everything else on this video, theres just no way it's not the sequel. The W label and characters are spot on. I think the movie would have been a bigger hit if they would have labeled it as a Sequel. But that's just me. I can't wait to see SP now lol
@@shawnnixon2616 The Snowpiercer show just made huge wink to this theory by the end of season 2, Either creators of the show are aware of the theory and are deliberately trolling, or there really is something to it.
Wow, the part about the Oompa Loompas literally made me pause the video and say "whoaaa". . .
Same here. I was more like mind blown
Freedom2286 he had a big scary audio cue and everything for it
We have something in common, you and I.
Honestly tho
Like Wilford literally said that engine's part got extinct!!! Extinct!!!
Holy crap. This is one of the best catches ever in linked movies. You're right. You can see it once laid out. I must have watched the 70's Wonka movie a hundred times and none of this occurred to me when watching snow piercer. That is totally V. Salt in that role 😅.
I was simply amused and intrigued until the bit the explained Willard needed to use Children because they were the only ones small enough to operate the machinery originally designed by the Oompa Loompas... after that my mind was blown. There is literally no other reason why those control areas should be so small. Holy shit.
Could just be a random plot point inserted so it would make sense they were stealing kids.
That was the part that convinced me too lmao
@Emperor Pepe Flavius Memus WOW
This
Silly Willy was a child murderer.
This... This is why I love youtube. I'm not intrested in either of these things, but the creator of the video makes me genuinely invested. Well done.
satchel amen to that!
@Jack K Im not interested in either of these things either but the video was great. sure Willy Wonka will always be a timeless classic but Its never on my mind. Ive never watched snowpiercer but this video made me want to watch it
Me:this is definitely clickbait
*Watches video*
Me:this is not clickbait...wtf
same
Evan Devin the fuck
+Evan Huang, I would like to ask you BEFORE you clicked on the video for fucking proof.
Im still not convinced. The connections he made were way too vague. "This movie has a psycopathic gunner and that one does as well so they must be related" And that was one of the better connections :T . The only one that was almost plausible was the oompa loompas theory. It makes sense cuz its said in the book that they cant survive cold climates and in the movie it was said that the part went extinct recently so they had to replace them with kids oompa loompa's height. Yet if they cant survive cold climates, they would've went extinct way sooner, like 17 years sooner, not just "recently".
Evan Huang facts
My friend once (literally once) showed me the movie you opened this video with and after a decade and a half and I have never been able to find it on Google. Thank you for name dropping it.
“Wonkapeircer”...
I see why using Willy would probably be a bad idea
I think this is the best comment I've ever seen
can you explain me why? I'm not an English native speaker but I want understand the joke ://
@@joao-jw8hb "willypeircer"
Google it I think that should give you the right explanation 😂😂😂
Dont wanna be that guy but
..*piercer*
João Pedro Lopes e Silva basicly, Willy is a slang for penis. So basicly it’s penis piercer which sounds really bad lol
I was skeptical until you mention the Oompa Loompas, that right there convinced me
SAME
Collin Gray that part of the engine recently went extinct. THAT WAS WHAT GOT ME
It clicked for me when I read the video title! I watched the whole video with a big smile.
Yeah that's almost airtight - why else would it be designed by small people?
yeah that was pretty nuts.
"Why SNOWPIERCER is a sequel to WILLY WONKA AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY"
eleven million people: I don't need sleep, I need answers
Literally me currently 🤣
*1AM* here
Rn it’s 2:44 am
I’m dying
And I’m watching this thinking I just need to know
I watched this at 4 am
@@boxman_two3047 well it’s now 3:22 so I’m getting there
Yes we did
Anybody remember that "every frame of painting "UA-cam channel,? that's when memories of murder became one of my favorite movies, I love it every time I can find a essay on his.movies
This is BY FAR the most thought out and well articulated tin foil hat theory in the history of man lmfao
Ngl he has made some good point while others are a real stretch in the imagination
Hmm a real stretch of the “Imagination.” Hmmmm
Checkout Preston Jacobs Game of Thrones theory’s.
@Toxsike
PURE IMAGINATION
Marvell Alvaro Darmawan more like a real stretch in the ‘pure imagination’
To be honest, this concept makes Snowpiercer actually make sense.
Edited Side Note: Contrary to what one might think, I in no way "believe" this concept to be true. It is just that - a concept. In fact, an intriguing concept formed and expressed to fellow creative minds.
Yep
Cause it really didnt before.
Even if the theory is not true, it’s make the movie more interesting and make a whole lot more sense
Yeah, without this explanation it's such a weird movie though
@@nathanm4444 it goes to show you what you will except if they sugarcoat it. And its horrible. The point of the reveal was to expose this fact. Be careful friends.
Joon Ho Bong visited my college campus today and said that some of the most influential films he saw as a child were American films from the 70’s.... Willy Wonka came out in 1971
Samantha Garcia aAaaah! That’s so awesome!!!
@@RhinoStew I just saw a trailer for an upcoming Snowpiercer TV series. Get this: the trailer was set to Pure Imagination from Willy Wonka
@@samrichardson8388 where is that trailer? I saw it on tv and cant find the right one online
@@deathpony698 I looked for it online with no luck. I'll keep an eye out
got em
I like the connections you draw. While I can't just drool over a theory that they're chronologically linked, I can say with confidence that Bong Jun-Ho was a huge Willy Wonka fan. He definitely intended Snowpiercer to be a low-key spiritual successor to WW.
Except Bong didn't create Snowpiercer, its a comic book adaption, the first part came out in 1982.
Was it a faithful adaptation though? Bong might have added the Wonka Easter eggs to the original text. (Not sure if he did, I haven’t read the comic)
Today I learned that a Snowpiercer tv series is becoming a thing and the commercial I saw for it used the theme for Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Someone on the show's marketing team must have seem this video.
Duke Plays source?
What is ya source bayou
ricardo martinez ua-cam.com/video/l75luJ5iyoA/v-deo.html
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Dude your totally right and that now makes it canon
Like, how does someone’s brain do this? How do you watch this movie then think to yourself, “huh, you know what this movie about a blood soaked revolution on a post apocalyptic train reminds me of? Charlie and the chocolate factory!”
Like what the fuck
I must admit, the theory is really fun.
it takes a special kind of talent to be able to do this. like, HOW? I'm blown away by this theory tbh
@A B Lol it's interesting and fun but such a far stretch from the truth. It's meant to be a quirky thought I think; not something taken seriously.
It's because of the final scene everything else he just added it to pad out the theory
I laughed so hard at this that I woke up the rest of my family
@Latexrex What the fuck did I just read.
This makes way too much sense god damn.
Woah! Nice seeing you here!
tiarawhy thanks again for the updates
Except that it is wrong.The sequelll to Charlie and the Choclate factory is Charlie and the great Glass elevator.
All of it makes sense. Apart from the title 'Wonkapiercer'. I mean, surely Wonka did the piercing?
Too much dam sense. This is crazy.
Dude straight masterpiece. I'm glad this lived on in your head for years, eventually gestating, because you crafted this perfectly. And sure did save the kill shot for the ending! Excellent video, structured argument, plenty of humor, and packed into under 15 minutes. Well done!
Next time:
How Sesame Street is a prequel to Train to Busan
Next next time: How Paw Patrol is a sequal to 2012
Next time:
How Spongebob is a prequel to Cloverfield
Next time:
How Ben 10 is connected to The Secret Saturdays.
How elmo started the zombie outbreak
Next time:
How Django Unchained Is a sequel to Rango
At first I was like “pfffft okay” and by the end I became a believer.
Especially the giant chocolate bar around 6:30 yo!
Ya like novels that have the same universe.
@@henrydupuis5648 whoa wtf
*Sees the title*: pff wtf is this
*Sees the whole video*: holy fuck...
My thoughts exactly 😂
Ikr. When this video first popped up in my recommendations I was like, "bruh what" but then, after I watched the video I went "HOLY SHIT"
Let’s see how many subs I can gain from this comment.
Current : 820
LIKE GEVENN GATES FRFR
i’ve never read a more relatable, hilarious comment
The WONKAPIERCER connection is kind of like the connection of BARBENHIEMER
Wonkapiecer?
I think you mean
SnowWilly
Ow my eyes
Or willypiercer
Or snowwonker
Jost hahaha
No willysnow
“How could this boy grow up with fictional violence to become a deadly solider”
Government: *noted*
People who think video game cause violence: *Agressive noting*
@@reportedbooch697 Karen be like
U.S. Government in Sci-Fi: Hold my technology
@Wyatt Zimmermman Jesus Christ calm down I’m joking
Government: write that down,WRITE THAT DOWN
That moment when you reach the weird part of UA-cam again
"Is this... where I belong?"
Join us
My recommended is the weird part of yt 😭
We all float down here...
Oh this isn’t even close to the weird side of yt
This is the tip of the iceberg. Underneath you have Russians, so so many Russians. Russians and guns and condoms
This video keeps showing up in my recommend over the years and I rewatch it every time. Can't get enough of how mind-blowing it is!
This guy could make The Shinning movie look like a 2 parter to Mr Beans Holiday
the shanking
@@pedropedrohan102 the shunning
@@motivationallizard3128 the shunking
@@pedropedrohan102 the skunking
@@l.ronhubbard5445 the shkungking
I clicked on this out of annoyed curiosity, thinking it was clickbait.
I am now irritatingly convinced.
Dongobee same
Who wouldn’t. This literally sounds like a perfect sequel after I finished watching snowpiercer yesterday
Yeah so are we not gonna mention the fact that those shelves in the background are designed as giant chocolate bars in 5:04
@Marcus Webster Oh... At least im not alone here
There is a second video by someone else that does
I thought about that when I watched the movie recently. Had to watch this video to understand everything again.
Lol,, it does.. 😆
😲🤯🤯🤯
The goonies is a prequel to saving private Ryan.
Naw. Snowpiercer is actually The Polar Express part 2, for those who didn't get a Golden Ticket.
I'm literally going to make it my life goal to make a serious story that is secretly The Polar Express 2.
You want sicko mode or mo bamba?
They got tbe black ticket and krumpus is driving the train
@@lebro4401 Sickmode bamba
I got you 1k likes
Me seeing the thumbnail: Yeah right..
Me after watching the whole vid: Holy shit
Moi aussie
I apologize and take responsibility for the erroneous "e". Lol
@@jamesarmstrong5424 are you an Aussie? Cause that would make this not a typo, but a brilliant play on words.
I had same experience
Not an Aussie, just a bloody Yank!
I just watched Snowpiercer with this knowledge in hand, and now I'm 100% convinced that this is true
The problem with this is that it ignores that Willy Wonka already has a sequel.
@@JJAB91 Yeah, the Great Glass Elevator
but then again, whos to say that its a trilogy? :^)
JJAB91 Why can’t snow piercer be the sequel to the great glass elevator then
I saw it... it's a really terrible film.
@@Smellohwell snowpiercer... the film, hated it.
To this day this is still one of the top 5 greatest movie theories
I feel like someone needs to do a conspiracy video on how every movie analysis youtuber has the exact same voice
He sounds nothing like matpat at all though
@@Cheesesticks-1 yes he does
A less energetic matpat
@@francispena2818 I disagree on many levels, but I have a very peculiar ear for specific voices soo.
@@Cheesesticks-1 No you don't. You're normal. Unless you're blind, then it'll make sense if sound is your strongest sense.
@@wujkmusic he could. There is always a chance you are born with a mutation that stimulates one or many senses. I for example have oversensitive skin which means i senses temperatures as higher than they are in terms of anything warmer than 30* or lower than it really is is is below 15*. Some people have really sensitive smell so they can even tell what ingredients you used for that meaty stew of yours. Same goes for everything except eyesight. You can precept more details but you cannot per say see smaller elements of the world.
UA-cam recommendations:
Why willy wonka is hitlers third cousin
Oh fuck!!!
Lmao 😂
i got tired of seeing this on my recommended.I finally clicked it hopefully it will disappear forever
never back down innit blud
*JK Rowling wants to know your location*
*people being brutally slaughtered*
*oompa loompa's dancing in the distance*
69 likes epic 69 gets out tmmr
Lmao why can I totally see this
Kids being drowned , burnt and having the trauma of being intoxicated and turned into a blueberry plus almost being slashed to shreds by a ceiling fan:exists
Oompa Loompas : is this dance party?
So anyways, I started dancin
I mean they definitely planned the ish
I’m going to be honest I came to this video from a comment on Instagram real and I didn’t think that I would be impressed but I am not kidding when I say this this makes 100% perfect sense. I could 100% this and I do 100% believe this.
Before: Let me click on this video for a good laugh
After: LISTEN EVERYBODY, I HAVE NEWS AND I MUST TELL
oke
I broke your 169
Okay yeah, he had me at the percentages
Okay... me too
Like the Carrader👀
This guy just named being a fan for the director of Parasite before dude even got nominated and won an Oscar for it lmao what a G
this guy is an og
lmao
This guy was a fan of a director with several critically acclaimed films under his belt?! Wow, no way.
Umm he was already known for memories of murder which is a great as parasite
@@Turok1134 Directors only exist after their first Oscar nomination, obviously
“I know what people taste like,”
“Roast beef and mashed potatoes,”
and a baked potato
Shhhh
@@pugofthunder387 lmao
🤣
🤣🤣🤣
"that part went extinct recently" HE WASNT TALKING ABOUT THE CHILD THAT DIED, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE OOMPA LOOMPAS
Angus Johnston fuuuuuuuuucked my day uppppppppp
Noo not the Oompa Loompas
I started questioning my entire life at that moment
Have you seen the movie? He wasn't talking about either. He was referring to the machine part that literally broke and now required a tiny hand to function in its place.
@@micahscanz Extinct is quite a weird word to describe a broken part, don’t you think?
If this theory is true, then the director of snowpiercer is a genius.
Imagine watching Willy Wonka and thinking of this fucked up shit
Well parasite did sweep this past oscars which was also directed by bong joon ho and it was a genius film and really most of his films are incredibly unique and twisted so I wouldn’t put it past him
or he's crazy and super dangerous
vic ferg 😩😩😂cx
he is, even if the theory it's not true
This has been on my recommendation for more than a year...
I'm glad UA-cam is persistent
I remember getting this video in my recommendations twice and i found it again today and decided to watch it
Mans is still liking comments...... a true legend
3 for me.
Eli Avi how has it been 3 years when it was released a year ago, people don’t know math
Mr. UnethicalXx lmao I think he meant 3 times not years 🤣
no lie...this could be the most well thought out, sensible theory I've seen yet. pretty interesting
@12:14 PROOVES EVERYTHING!
"The space only allows for a small person. The engine lasts forever, not so all its parts. That piece of equipment...went extict recently."
Pretty sure that's what sold most over everyone. specially the height required for the kids to be. Matching that of a small person.
Timothy Miller agreed. It must have been a reference to the Umpa Lumpas.
Even if it wasn't intended to be the sequel, I'm pretty sure you made it a sequel, lmao.
That's my same reaction
It just has similar concepts that's it. It's no sequel
@@platinumorange1034 more like movie cliches that still continue to be used today
That's true:) He made it, I'm sure of it:)
Bwwwaaahahahahahahaha!!!
There is to many similarities that it probably was inspired by Willie Wonka
nobody:
youtube: WHY ALIEN VS PREDITOR IS A SEQUAL TO MEAN GIRLS
Outof Order oh my gosh it totally is!!
Now that I think about it...
It makes sense though...
This theory makes me want to watch both movies.
Are you implying that it’s not 🤔
The Matt pat level of reaches around every corner I love it
There are very few fan theories that I would make my hill to die on, but this is now one of them. Well done, sir.
I may make good on your oath boy!
Are you okay? Have you died on the hill yet?
Same
"Call me crazy"
No sir I will call anyone who disagrees crazy!
@LCARSDATANODEadventure time is confirmed to be a nuclear explosion in the show though
I was hoping to scroll down and see;
*Im Chris Evans, and I approve this message*
Same bud same
Im not chris evans, and i dont approve of this comment
Damn thanks for the likes
twitter.com/chrisevans/status/1053114327446757381?lang=en
@@southloopsox That's sweet 😸
A connection you've missed is that Swinton was affecting a Yorkshire accent for apparently no reason (nobody else does)... But, Veruca's father is the only character in Willy Wonka with that particular accent. Probably a coincidence but definitely a weird one.
Probably NOT a coincidence, amirite guys?
666 likes.
.demrifnoc itanimullI
stage direction sometimes incorporates these changes. Like the couple slowly walking away at the end of pulp fiction. the script called for them to *run*, but someone decided *during* filming that the slow-walk of fear and defeat made way more sense.
Weirdest part is I actually had this exact same thought when watching this years ago
"I know what...people taste like..."
"ROAST BEEF AND A BAKED POTATO MMMMMM."
3:43 the beginning *oof* snowpiercer.
I spat out my drink when that bit came up, was not expecting that 🤣🤣🤣
I was reading this when they said lol
Ness ness ifunny?
before the sun goes up i will bake a beef in a chunk of fuck
Come with me and you’ll be in a world of death and isolation.
Ice-olation!
I don't know why I felt compelled to do that.
I've never even seen natural ice
I subbed you
We already are
I’m pretty sure everyone sang that in their head
Bro I’m so glad I’m not the only one who heard that. Except I heard the commercial of the song-
Wonka was such a dark movie.. this makes total sense.
Fr like some people be like “childhood classic” but that movie lowkey scary
Wouldn't be surprised if they use Wonkas image in a dark way.
I really don't know how people can see that movie in any other way than dark
When you think about it, Wonka is much darker than people or I think. Maybe all those bright colors and candy meaning happiness throws you off.
@@meghanlee9768 Lol when i was a kid i was always scared of the movie (The newer version) because of the weird music idk it disturbs me and because the fat dude got sucked into that filter tube thing and it disturbed me so much
I watched this like 3 years ago and I'm so glad to see it on my for you again
Forget what Chris Evans thinks about it, I wanna know what Bong Joon Hoo thinks about this. Either he’s flustered by the uncanny resemblance or he’s like “you SoB, you figured it out”
“You crazy son of a bitch, you actually did it!”
Yeah I was just thinking "why would you tweet at the main character's actor? Like how is he gonna know? haha"
He’s probably like “nice”