When it breaks down habir freight doesn't do anything to help i have one and after 2 and a half spools of 2 pound wire the wire feed motor stopped feeding wire called their trouble shooting number they didnt have a clue and pretty much told me sorry about your luck
I have delt with bad companies and really good companies. Primeweld is a great company with great customer service that never failed me when I needed help. I don't use this HF welder much as I use my Arc welders more often.
Primeweld has been great with me and their products are awesome. I picked the Titanium as an open item but would not pay the New price or even the current price. I might check Primeweld to see what that 180 goes for as I need to weld my f150 bed. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
That's awesome. I live 50 miles away from the store so it's hard to find deals. The 140 has been a great welder for me and prefer it over my heavy Hobart I picked up last month.
I got one open box didn’t even come with a box just the welder and gun didn’t even come with a tank valve I paid 350$ after tax should I return. It I seen some people get a open box for 150$ idk why my harbor freight doesn’t do half off
Make sure you need the capability before you pay more for the 170. The 140 is close to Identical on 120 up to the point you need the 240, you might be better off spending the extra $ towards a gas bottle. Depends on your needs.
@@johnthompson941 I am going to upgrade my outlet to 10/2 wire and place a 30amp breaker. I ran this off my engine driven welder and works better. I am getting to much voltage drop on a 70ft+ run on 12/2. Hopefully you can find a good deal.
this welder actually lays down some good beads. Just got this welder the other day. (Getting back into welding) I tried it on gas and with some little adjustments this machine is really decent for the price!
Cool. Hope to see more videos with this welder. I have the Hobart handler 140 and I use c25 gas with .035 L56 super arc Lincoln wire. Enjoy your welder.
Thanks. I feel like the feeding is not right on this machine but have to look into it. I used my Hobart Champion engine driven welder today and it welds awesome. I plan on getting used to Mig welding just need patience and practice. I also need to buy my tank setup because renting is crazy expensive here.
@@cutweldngrind maybe your spool tension is not set right. Could be that what affecting the feed. Awesome. Yea buy a tank, mig is good. I use flux core alot, I have a jobsmart fc125 welder which I modified to dc. Burns better less spatter. I also use Lincoln nr211mp .035 wire in my welder.
@@zeroninejames9507 I thought the tension was set properly but need to check tomorrow. I know several people have mentioned that they have this issue. I will try a new 10lb spool of flux that I have and try it again.
I was going to call you a dingus for wanting a better beed when you using a pushAngle instead of a drag but you did bring it up during the video still happy though
You can call me a Dingus, what's a Dingus any ways lol. I am still running flux wire but if I ever build a shop I will sure buy me some gas and set up all my tools. Prices have really limited my projects I had in mind like my shop, my DIY project went from 10k to 25k in materials. Well have a god day and check some of my other videos as I am always looking for comments or suggestions.
That's a good deal on the the price... Its a good thing that HF added the DC and now you can do better welds... The older wire feed welders were just AC like the one I have and it sucks... Get yourself a bottle of argon gas and i guarantee you will have better welds with little to almost no spatter... I run mine on 0.35 flux core wire... Dont buy the 10lbs spool yet, start off with the 1lbs spool till you know you got the right one for you liking... Awesome video and keep us posted👍👍...
I have the Black Flux Core welder in the shed and it's been sealed in box for over 1 year. I got it for $85 new and I knew that it sucked and still bought it. I have been feeling crappy so haven't done much stuff lately. I may work on my new work truck tomorrow and upload some upgrades to it.
@@cutweldngrind yeah I also have the black one and its messy on the spatter part but the welds are alright... Nothing better than mig welding with argon that's for sure... Very clean and smooth welds...
@@Guns_N_Gears I totally forgot about the dang roll. I went to the city for Dr Appointment and ended up spending $250 on Ammo and over $300 in extra food since this virus panic left our stores dry. I will try ordering one soon after forgetting my homedepot trip.
Not exactly sure which piece you mean. I will have to find the manual to verify that. We had a storm come in that ripped the roofs off several houses and my welder got all wet from all that high winds and rain. I have not even attempted to power it up to see if it survived.
@@cutweldngrind open lid, see brass colored piece were wire goes out to gun look at the hole facing you there's a bolt with a wing nut that threads into hole to hold gun firmly.
@@dougwitherby3291 I did have the wire get stuck and it actually pushed the connector/hose assembly out of the welders body. I will check this once I get home. Flat tire on my vehicle so here I am waiting. Thanks for the info, really appreciated.
@@dougwitherby3291 I finally got home and saw the brass piece you mentioned. As I moved the welder I heard something in there and found the wingnut/bolt. I did not run a power test on it but glad I found the piece. Thanks
Update. The welder has been working fine and I have been welding some stuff around the house. I believe these welders are 100% better then the previous Chicago AC FluxCore welders. I need to build me a cart now as the cart I have is to small.
I am shopping for some and saw there is a $17 difference between the .030 and .035 Hobart 10Lb Spool. The .30 is about $91 while the .35 is $74. On this small welder should I buy the .030 wire or should I try a 2lb spool of .035 to see how it burns it?
@@cutweldngrind The 2lb spools are a ripoff. Get a 10lb spool. The flux core is fairly expensive but a 10lb spool lasts forever. You could probably go with either .030 or .035 with that machine. The .030 will be better if you get into thin stuff like 14 or 16 gauge. Home Depot usually has a competitive price on the Lincoln E71T-11 wire (NR-211).
@@DXT61 Thanks. I bought some Esab wire and its still in the box. I been super busy with hardly any free time to work on projects. I will check it out.
I just upgraded from the 125 to the 140. It is a much better machine. I know its not the Miller 250s we use at the shop but for home use this 140 is fire.. Great flux welder. I havent used has yet but time will tell
The 140 seems like a great machine. I was used to Arc welding 16 guage up to 1/2" materials with my Hobart engine driven welder. The 140 now tackles just about every job up to 1/4". I am still using up the 10lb spool of flux and will switch over to gas later on. Check out my current video on the primeweld plasma cutter. Well thanks for watching friend.
I did some research on this as I am close to pulling the trigger on this. The GS is for single pass and not rated as deep (General Spec) , the 11 is for multi-pass to an AWS spec.
I tried it yesterday, it start up and slows down and then speeds up. I tried it several times and I started to clean some metal for a project I will be doing this week.
Running flux core wire you don't need to have the nozzle on, one less consumable you have to replace beings it's not really needed with just flux core. You will need to use the nozzle when you weld with dual shield flux core wire.
The sting goes. If it's got slag, you drag. You welds look better and seem to penetrate with a little less spatter when you were dragging rather than pushing with your technique.
I tried Push and Pull at different times and weld seems to look about the same. I am going to try getting a tank soon. I will also increase speed of wire feed to see what difference I see. Before I forget let me buy a 10lb spool of wire, off to Amazon.
I don't think you realy need to buy any more flux core wire because as soon as you get some Co2 the flux core roll will sit on the shelf for the next 10 years. If you can weld that well with the flux core, your going to be an expert with the gas.
I need to get some quotes on some gas bottles to see what size I buy. I really want to try this on gas to see what it can do. If the mig welder does good I will simply buy a bigger unit with greater duty cycle.
Garbage! I had one for a bit over a year. It worked great at first and now it doesn't feed. It turns for a second really slow and stops. While it turns the wire speed readout is all zeroes. I'll never buy another one!
@@cutweldngrind Weird, but mine seems to work again for whatever reason. I'm not sure if I did something that I don't remember, but it's working now. Just a tip for you though, you should be dragging that not pushing it. The saying is if there's slag, you drag. Also, you have the wrong tip on the gun. There should be a plain black tip to put on the end. You're using the gas tip. It works either way, but it's easier to see with the right tip. Good video.
It was an open box special. The open box specials drop like 15% in price every 2 weeks so the longer they stay on shelf the cheaper they get. Someone bought it and returned it.
Also did you have it set for DCEP for running flux core wire? DCEN is for dual shield flux core and GMAW and DCEP is for flux core wire. That might be part of your splatter issue. Put your lead quick connect in the positive quick connect for DCEP (DC electrode positive). When running GMAW or dual shield flux core put your lead in the negative for DCEN (DC electrode negative)
I am new to flux core welders but I could be wrong. I will check tomorrow and if its wrong I will have to try some welds. I appreciate the tip. . When you mention dual shield is that gas plus flux wire? Thanks again.
@@cutweldngrind yes dual shield is flux core wire while also running gas. You can't use just regular inner core sheilded flux wire for dual shield , you would have to buy dual shield wire.
@@cutweldngrind when it is set for DCEP the arc goes from the work piece to the wire which in turn doesn't pre melt the electrode (wire) which will help control the splatter. With the machine set for DCEN the arc goes from the electrode (wire) to the work piece which melts the electrode (wire) causing little balls of melted wire and this is where you get all the splatter running flux core wire.
I cant remember the polarity but I think it was DCEP or what ever was listed on the label under flux wire. I think the splatter may be to the cheap flux core wire I used. I been struggling due to my outlet tripping the 20 amp breaker and I ran this of my generator and it works great. I have a few videos that I run this welder on a different flux wire and does ok.
@@cutweldngrind thx for the reply from what I have read DCEP makes a ton more splatter so I was curious if that spatter was produced from proper settings on DCEN or if it was a mistake. I figured worst case I would be out 300 bucks if it didnt do a good job and I am new to welding so thanks for the video!
@@PineConesToPhillipines I think this welder works really well. I was going to get the Hobart Handler but it's super heavy for its size and around $500. I have tried some weldpak Lincolns and this Titanium works great. I have the 125 also but I prefer the extra power of the 140.
I hate having short warranty on items but since the price was good it dont bother me. I used it today for 20 minutes of welding and really like the welder. I would buy again if the price is right.
The black nozzles for the fluxcore
Guys pretty good for never welding before
Good video
Sold just because green is my favorite color
When it breaks down habir freight doesn't do anything to help i have one and after 2 and a half spools of 2 pound wire the wire feed motor stopped feeding wire called their trouble shooting number they didnt have a clue and pretty much told me sorry about your luck
I have delt with bad companies and really good companies. Primeweld is a great company with great customer service that never failed me when I needed help. I don't use this HF welder much as I use my Arc welders more often.
I just finished a "for fun" welding class. I was taught "drag (pull) when there is slag". For MIG gas, push or pull; I find it easier to push.
I really need to get gas and try mig. I'm currently building a welding table using this welder and looking good. Thanks for the tips.
YOU CAN GET A PRIMEWELD 180 FOR A BETTER DEAL WITH A 3YR WARRANTY. AND A SPOOL GUN FOR ALUMINUM. NO BRAINER.
Primeweld has been great with me and their products are awesome. I picked the Titanium as an open item but would not pay the New price or even the current price. I might check Primeweld to see what that 180 goes for as I need to weld my f150 bed. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
Just bought one at $150 openbox but came like New too
That's awesome. I live 50 miles away from the store so it's hard to find deals. The 140 has been a great welder for me and prefer it over my heavy Hobart I picked up last month.
I got one open box didn’t even come with a box just the welder and gun didn’t even come with a tank valve I paid 350$ after tax should I return. It I seen some people get a open box for 150$ idk why my harbor freight doesn’t do half off
Great job. Looks good but I will try to save up for the next model so I can do 110v/220v.
The 170 was my choice but got this one super cheap. It's been a good welder.
@@cutweldngrind I have been looking for an open box since I saw this, no luck, might have to pay the "sale" price ;) That was a nice deal!
Make sure you need the capability before you pay more for the 170. The 140 is close to Identical on 120 up to the point you need the 240, you might be better off spending the extra $ towards a gas bottle.
Depends on your needs.
@@johnthompson941 I am going to upgrade my outlet to 10/2 wire and place a 30amp breaker. I ran this off my engine driven welder and works better. I am getting to much voltage drop on a 70ft+ run on 12/2. Hopefully you can find a good deal.
this welder actually lays down some good beads. Just got this welder the other day. (Getting back into welding) I tried it on gas and with some little adjustments this machine is really decent for the price!
I used the welder again and really like it. My buddy has the smaller 125 and he likes it too but its limited to small rolls only.
Cool. Hope to see more videos with this welder. I have the Hobart handler 140 and I use c25 gas with .035 L56 super arc Lincoln wire. Enjoy your welder.
Thanks. I feel like the feeding is not right on this machine but have to look into it. I used my Hobart Champion engine driven welder today and it welds awesome. I plan on getting used to Mig welding just need patience and practice. I also need to buy my tank setup because renting is crazy expensive here.
@@cutweldngrind maybe your spool tension is not set right. Could be that what affecting the feed. Awesome. Yea buy a tank, mig is good. I use flux core alot, I have a jobsmart fc125 welder which I modified to dc. Burns better less spatter. I also use Lincoln nr211mp .035 wire in my welder.
@@zeroninejames9507 I thought the tension was set properly but need to check tomorrow. I know several people have mentioned that they have this issue. I will try a new 10lb spool of flux that I have and try it again.
I was going to call you a dingus for wanting a better beed when you using a pushAngle instead of a drag but you did bring it up during the video still happy though
You can call me a Dingus, what's a Dingus any ways lol. I am still running flux wire but if I ever build a shop I will sure buy me some gas and set up all my tools. Prices have really limited my projects I had in mind like my shop, my DIY project went from 10k to 25k in materials. Well have a god day and check some of my other videos as I am always looking for comments or suggestions.
That's a good deal on the the price... Its a good thing that HF added the DC and now you can do better welds... The older wire feed welders were just AC like the one I have and it sucks... Get yourself a bottle of argon gas and i guarantee you will have better welds with little to almost no spatter... I run mine on 0.35 flux core wire... Dont buy the 10lbs spool yet, start off with the 1lbs spool till you know you got the right one for you liking... Awesome video and keep us posted👍👍...
I have the Black Flux Core welder in the shed and it's been sealed in box for over 1 year. I got it for $85 new and I knew that it sucked and still bought it. I have been feeling crappy so haven't done much stuff lately. I may work on my new work truck tomorrow and upload some upgrades to it.
@@cutweldngrind yeah I also have the black one and its messy on the spatter part but the welds are alright... Nothing better than mig welding with argon that's for sure... Very clean and smooth welds...
Even if u buy a 10# roll, and decide to go hardwire, keep the flux core for outdoor projects.
@@Guns_N_Gears I totally forgot about the dang roll. I went to the city for Dr Appointment and ended up spending $250 on Ammo and over $300 in extra food since this virus panic left our stores dry. I will try ordering one soon after forgetting my homedepot trip.
@@cutweldngrind I hear ya, things seem a little crazy.
Great video BTW
Jorge looks like your missing wing nut to hold gun adapter in place
Not exactly sure which piece you mean. I will have to find the manual to verify that. We had a storm come in that ripped the roofs off several houses and my welder got all wet from all that high winds and rain. I have not even attempted to power it up to see if it survived.
@@cutweldngrind open lid, see brass colored piece were wire goes out to gun look at the hole facing you there's a bolt with a wing nut that threads into hole to hold gun firmly.
@@dougwitherby3291 I did have the wire get stuck and it actually pushed the connector/hose assembly out of the welders body. I will check this once I get home. Flat tire on my vehicle so here I am waiting. Thanks for the info, really appreciated.
@@cutweldngrind no worries 👍
@@dougwitherby3291 I finally got home and saw the brass piece you mentioned. As I moved the welder I heard something in there and found the wingnut/bolt. I did not run a power test on it but glad I found the piece. Thanks
Update. The welder has been working fine and I have been welding some stuff around the house. I believe these welders are 100% better then the previous Chicago AC FluxCore welders. I need to build me a cart now as the cart I have is to small.
Do yourself a favor and get some Lincoln or Hobart E71T-11 wire. It works so much better with less spatter than the HF junk wire.
I am shopping for some and saw there is a $17 difference between the .030 and .035 Hobart 10Lb Spool. The .30 is about $91 while the .35 is $74. On this small welder should I buy the .030 wire or should I try a 2lb spool of .035 to see how it burns it?
@@cutweldngrind The 2lb spools are a ripoff. Get a 10lb spool. The flux core is fairly expensive but a 10lb spool lasts forever. You could probably go with either .030 or .035 with that machine. The .030 will be better if you get into thin stuff like 14 or 16 gauge. Home Depot usually has a competitive price on the Lincoln E71T-11 wire (NR-211).
@@cutweldngrind Don't know the guy but found this video comparing Flux wire.
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@@DXT61 Thanks. I bought some Esab wire and its still in the box. I been super busy with hardly any free time to work on projects. I will check it out.
Great welder own the same one and mine was also open box. I paid like 299$
I just upgraded from the 125 to the 140. It is a much better machine. I know its not the Miller 250s we use at the shop but for home use this 140 is fire.. Great flux welder. I havent used has yet but time will tell
The 140 seems like a great machine. I was used to Arc welding 16 guage up to 1/2" materials with my Hobart engine driven welder. The 140 now tackles just about every job up to 1/4". I am still using up the 10lb spool of flux and will switch over to gas later on. Check out my current video on the primeweld plasma cutter. Well thanks for watching friend.
@@cutweldngrind I will watch it, and it does handle 1/4 good. Keep putting vids bro good stuff
Should I buy e71t-11 or GS wire, which one is better for this welder
I did some research on this as I am close to pulling the trigger on this. The GS is for single pass and not rated as deep (General Spec) , the 11 is for multi-pass to an AWS spec.
Does your wire feed come out one continuous speed or does it come out slow and then speed up?
I only used it once so I will need to try it out again. I may give it a try this week.
I tried it yesterday, it start up and slows down and then speeds up. I tried it several times and I started to clean some metal for a project I will be doing this week.
Running flux core wire you don't need to have the nozzle on, one less consumable you have to replace beings it's not really needed with just flux core. You will need to use the nozzle when you weld with dual shield flux core wire.
Sounds good. I'm new to wire welders but am starting to enjoy it. Thanks for the tips.
The sting goes. If it's got slag, you drag. You welds look better and seem to penetrate with a little less spatter when you were dragging rather than pushing with your technique.
Thanks. I am behind on my replies but appreciate the tips and comments.
Unless you enjoy resetting circuit breakers all the time, your gonna wanna put in a dedicated 20 amp outlet.
I tried Push and Pull at different times and weld seems to look about the same. I am going to try getting a tank soon. I will also increase speed of wire feed to see what difference I see. Before I forget let me buy a 10lb spool of wire, off to Amazon.
I don't think you realy need to buy any more flux core wire because as soon as you get some Co2 the flux core roll will sit on the shelf for the next 10 years. If you can weld that well with the flux core, your going to be an expert with the gas.
I need to get some quotes on some gas bottles to see what size I buy. I really want to try this on gas to see what it can do. If the mig welder does good I will simply buy a bigger unit with greater duty cycle.
@@cutweldngrind I wouldn't do CO2, I would do 75/25 and run hardwire and dual shielded wire on the same gas.
Garbage! I had one for a bit over a year. It worked great at first and now it doesn't feed. It turns for a second really slow and stops. While it turns the wire speed readout is all zeroes. I'll never buy another one!
My machine seems to work great but I have seen in the city many people selling Harbor Freight returns. I guess they are awesome while they work.
@@cutweldngrind Weird, but mine seems to work again for whatever reason. I'm not sure if I did something that I don't remember, but it's working now. Just a tip for you though, you should be dragging that not pushing it. The saying is if there's slag, you drag. Also, you have the wrong tip on the gun. There should be a plain black tip to put on the end. You're using the gas tip. It works either way, but it's easier to see with the right tip. Good video.
256.00 when-because in 2019= 349.99 in 2020=419.99 maybe 2021=600.00 they not accepted the 20% OFF CUPÓN this is the catch
It was an open box special. The open box specials drop like 15% in price every 2 weeks so the longer they stay on shelf the cheaper they get. Someone bought it and returned it.
Also did you have it set for DCEP for running flux core wire? DCEN is for dual shield flux core and GMAW and DCEP is for flux core wire. That might be part of your splatter issue. Put your lead quick connect in the positive quick connect for DCEP (DC electrode positive). When running GMAW or dual shield flux core put your lead in the negative for DCEN (DC electrode negative)
I am new to flux core welders but I could be wrong. I will check tomorrow and if its wrong I will have to try some welds. I appreciate the tip. . When you mention dual shield is that gas plus flux wire? Thanks again.
@@cutweldngrind yes dual shield is flux core wire while also running gas. You can't use just regular inner core sheilded flux wire for dual shield , you would have to buy dual shield wire.
@@cutweldngrind when it is set for DCEP the arc goes from the work piece to the wire which in turn doesn't pre melt the electrode (wire) which will help control the splatter. With the machine set for DCEN the arc goes from the electrode (wire) to the work piece which melts the electrode (wire) causing little balls of melted wire and this is where you get all the splatter running flux core wire.
@@davidcrumrine1165 Good info, appreciated!
Did you run DCEP or DCEN for your first tacks and beads? There is a lot of spatter! I just bought this yesterday and Im excited to try it out!
I cant remember the polarity but I think it was DCEP or what ever was listed on the label under flux wire. I think the splatter may be to the cheap flux core wire I used. I been struggling due to my outlet tripping the 20 amp breaker and I ran this of my generator and it works great. I have a few videos that I run this welder on a different flux wire and does ok.
@@cutweldngrind thx for the reply from what I have read DCEP makes a ton more splatter so I was curious if that spatter was produced from proper settings on DCEN or if it was a mistake. I figured worst case I would be out 300 bucks if it didnt do a good job and I am new to welding so thanks for the video!
@@PineConesToPhillipines I think this welder works really well. I was going to get the Hobart Handler but it's super heavy for its size and around $500. I have tried some weldpak Lincolns and this Titanium works great. I have the 125 also but I prefer the extra power of the 140.
Are you impressed by the 90 day warranty? lol
I hate having short warranty on items but since the price was good it dont bother me. I used it today for 20 minutes of welding and really like the welder. I would buy again if the price is right.