Why was Tywin Lannister so cold? + Dany's lion cloak
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- In this video, I analyse psychology and mythology of Tywin Lannister, one of the best strategists in Game of Thrones, an awe-provoking leader, and a stern and cruel father. I also take apart some additional symbolism of the lion (apart from the main symbolism related to Tywin) as well as some of the character traits of Tywin's children (Jaime, Cersei, and Tyrion). Let me know in the comments what character you'd like me to analyse next!
(Source of information are GoT books only).
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Time stamps:
0:00 Intro
1:24 Background
3:45 The lion has awoken
4:47 Moral dilemma
6:03 Father hunger
7:02 Main traits
9:23 Psychological profile
12:26 Tywin's children
13:30 Tywin's shadow and death
16:12 Mythology
19:47 Bonus: Dany's cloak
Sources consulted:
George R. R. Martin - ASOIAF series; The World of Ice and Fire
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 5th edition
Carl G. Jung - The Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious; Four Archetypes
The Mythology Book: Big Ideas Simply Explained
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"Tywin was big even when he was little."
Because he distinctly remembers putting a very tall hat on his head?
I remember them mentioning how when Tywin was younger he absolutely hated hearing people laughing because he always considered that their laughter was directed towards him and he was always being mocked in some way. This probably tied into the way people treated his father and why he would become super controlling and always demanding to be taken seriously as an adult, if he wasn't then he viewed it as a serious slight.
True, not being taken seriously means no one will fear or respect you, and you need to command those things in order to rule.
@@thalmoragent9344OTOH, taking oneself too seriously, or ineffectually attempting to demonstrate seriousness may indicate exploitable ego fragility. As Tywin himself says to his grandson who fails in this way, "Any man who must say 'I am the king ' is no true king"
@@dayofayanju9021
Yeah true, too much overbearing pride for us and that self important ego one gives to themselves truly can be a dangerous thing, you're absolutely right
Tywin doesn't enjoy being admired. He enjoys being feared.
i was looking for copper, but i've found gold
Youre looking for copper on youtube? Okay....
This channel is going to do real well, I am proud to be apart of this community early.
Becoming the Hand of the King at 20 years of age is exceptional
Sounds like Sansa is reading.
I thought so too at first, or danaeryus
Can not unhear
Sofie turner
Probably because I’m British so I’m intimately familiar with English accents, but I can’t hear it. The narrator has a European (I wanna say French? But I’m probably wrong) accent that shines through their otherwise great narration to me. But that’s just my ears, idk where the narrator is from but I’d guess born elsewhere but lived in the U.K. for a good while?
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I am in love with your ASOIAF character analysis - psychological depth, family dynamics, heroes- shadow- foe- antiheroes- definitions, symbolism.. I read the books with this in my "intuition", but was not able to quite name it all so clearly. You are winning a Patreon supporter in me.
Thank you very much! My Patreon is up and running, but I will need to expand my reach before I delve into bringing special Patreon content. I appreciate any support always, however!
6:30
It's the opposite. Cercei embraces Tywin which is the problem because she believes she can emulate Tywin when she can't. Tywin always went against his father and did whatever he wanted and so Cercei is frustrated she can't do the same.
Tyrion pushes against him far more. Because Tywin is so cold and objective Tyrion is very warm and open hearted. Because Tywin is so insistent on every moment of time being useful Tyrion embraces wasting time with prostitutes, food and trivia knowledge.
Put some respect on his name, youngest hand of the king ever. Had the kingdom flourishing so well even with A mad king. "When your enemies defy you you must serve them steel and fire. But when they ben the knee you must offer them a hand up, else no man will ever follow you." A lesson Daenerys refused to learn.
When has Daenerys ever refused to offer a hand to those who bent the knee? More like something Cersei refused to learn.
@@JohnJones-md9gj Think Ariel might be talking about the show, they butchered her character.
In the books however, she great. When Meereen was still in danger of being enslaved again, she stayed in Meereen cuz she did not want to abandon her new people even though she was given ships to take her and her army to Westeros like she always wanted. And even married someone she hated just for her people would have peace.
"A queen belongs to no one but her people"
@@JohnJones-md9gj One example is killing of Randyl Tarly and his son.
Also she burnt King's Landing, killing innocent people.
She was Great...but her Greatness got her killed, just as Ned's Loyalty got him killed.
@@omkarunde2040 the tv show butchered her character and all the other characters as well.I dont care about it. book dany always offer a hand to those who bend the knee
Let's not forget, Ned mentions that "Aerys Targaryen left a full treasury" when Robert took over. You think the man who wanted to build a second wall, and a second Kings landing made entirely out of marble had good money management skills?
I'd love to see more of these videos - specifically ones about other Game of Thrones characters as so many of them are quite complex! Videos on Jaime, Daenerys & Cersei in particular I think could be very interesting! 😁
Love the analysis here, very intricate unlike other Tywin essays I've seen. Can't wait for more videos!
This channel is underrated
Could you make a video about Cersei and her relationship to each member of her family, especially her children?
Yes, she's on the list. :)
Something important is that the Rhynes ran into their gold mines; from there they sent tywin offers for peace and Robert Rhyne asked for single combat, tywin responded by diverting a body of water into the mine drowning all inside.
If you have watched Avatar: The Last Airbender, you will notice how much parallels and similarities there are between Fire Nation and Lannisters.
Both Ozai and Tywin are narcissistic father figures and megalomaniac dictators. And their chidren have similar roles in the family as well.
Azula is a mini copy of his father, Ozai. She's a prodigy, Ozai's pride and his golden child. Even possibly the only person that he ever loved. Just like Cersei, Azula posseses cruelty, ruthlessness, and self-centered personality.
Meanwhile Zuko is the combination and Jaime and Tyrion. He became a people pleasure in order to gain his father's affection. And likewise Tywin hated Tyrion, Ozai hated his son since the very moment he was born. Zuko was always the scapegoat of his family. Also, both Zuko and Tyrion have sisters who hate them...
wow this was fantastic, great to find a small channel with this content, subscribed
I loved this video. I hope and pray that your channel does extremely well. You've earned a new subscriber.
Wow, I never really thought of Jaime as always in service to others, with no desires of his own, but that’s right. I’d love to see a video on him.
same. jaime is so interesting
jamie only desire it fighting and fcking cersie as he said but after hand off his desires to be golden hand a man of honor
Glad I found your channel. Thank you for making a video about one of my top favorite characters.
Wow...you really know psychology and game of thrones!! Amazing video! I loved the background music and images as well :)))
He was cold because warm, friendly, gregarious people get taken advantage of. Ned was nice. Robb was nice. Hodor was nice. How’d that work out for them?
really like ur videos and the way U think. As a guy thats taken psycholodgy and has a l,ove for psychology, philosophy, biology, hisotory and many other things, ur channel is gold (: keep up the good work
Thank you very much! I'm glad to hear that you like my channel. That's what keeps me going!
You deserve more subscribers
I watched this and the Sandor Clegane video. I really enjoy your channel and I hope more people find out about it. Keep up the great work!❤❤
This was amazing. Could you do more analysis on character's shadows, and which archetypes they represent and why?
Definitely!
The God shaped this man to rule. And rule he did!
Hello. I am just going through your content and I love it. I believe that there are layers to everything. I always view everything from a higher perspective and I love how you include many different aspects to explain Tywin's psychology. Ex: Explaining the spiritual aspects, the light and shadow aspects of an individual, the light and shadow of the "lion" (including animals) and etc. I always view things in a higher perspective and I know that one has to view things from a perspective of higher consciousness. Many psychiatrists or individuals who study in the field (not all, of course) only view things from a 3D perspective or lens. They only view the physical. (Not surprising, as many can't believe what they can't see. - The spiritual.) The spiritual is connected to the 3D and that is the reality. When trying to understand someone, I study different topics like astrology, spirituality, and etc, to get a better perspective on an individual because "surface level" psychology doesn't best explain an individual. There are not many individuals within the field that understand this, so I am so grateful that I found your channel. I have studied psychology in depth and I have been impressed with the videos I have recently viewed. Thank you.
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Will you make one on Eddard Stark? Is he the simple, doing the best I can character or there are layers to explore within him?
I'd like to see this as well.
Yes! I'd define Eddard Stark in terms of the cliché iceberg simile; there's only a small part sticking out of the water. I'll attempt to strip his soul naked eventually. :)
I think house Lannisters rebirth , depends not only on Tyrion , but also Jaimes child to be with Brienne , then the line will return.
Great video, this channel deserves more subs
Hi Sansa, good to hear your voice after so long
Amazing Content. Keep it up
Do you know who your next character analysis will be about? I’m really loving these types of videos, but especially from you. It shows just how much power symbolism and the subconscious play a part in our lives, only become clear if we look at them and study their meanings!!!
I'm glad to hear that! I'm now working on a video about a very relevant societal issue, and after that will follow a video dedicated to two specific (and mythologically rich) characters. (: I find it hard to move from GoT analyses, since there's so much to explore!
@@FictionPsychology May I recommend Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter? There are loads of rich, complex characters to analyze.
Wow good video. With such great detail on the Psychology. 🙌🏽🙌🏽
A coat of gold, a coat of red, a lion still has claws
omg! this video is marvelous! I'm in love with your channel! are you going to make more videos about got characters? it would be so amazing to have an analysis of book dany or jaime
You are about to BOOM with subscribers
This was amazing. Keep it coming! Fingers crossed for a north or Jon snow video :) but seriously, I appreciate the depth and research that went into this. Thank you
They're on the list! :) Thank you!!
Can you show examples of Tyson’s grandiosity or need for admiration? “Do you think I demanded a garland of roses every time I was wounded on the battlefield?” I don’t buy those traits on him.
In the European medieval style culture that is present in Westeros, Tywin is constantly being admired and adored by his lesser lords, vassals and pretty much everyone at King's landing, because he's so high up in the royal court. His grandiosity can be seen throughout the show, his fine clothes, the two lion styled room dividers in his office and the two Valerian steel swords he has made for Jamie and Jofree. An example of both grandiosity and need for admiration is when he's officially made Hand of the King, The whole ceremony is basically a huge thank you for his actions and He comes in on a beautiful white Horse, making him tower over everyone in the crowd.
Ok, I haven't even watched the video but I know I will like it because you opened with my favorite Tywin line :)
I like to steeple my fingers when I'm contemplating what people are saying to me.
Great video!
Thanks for sharing!
All right, I just rewatched the video and I want to say it's marvelous!
I am really amazed!!! You said plenty of interesting things. And yeah, I have always thought Tywin sees his children as extensions of himself, hence why he hates Tyrion for not being "perfect" like him or why he probably let Cersei grow into a narcissistic monster, since she was "perfect" on the outside. Not so different to Cersei and Joffrey, honestly...
The only reason I hesitate saying Tywin and Tyrion have an Oedipus Complex is because none of them are into a mother figure
Leaving this comment for the algorithm gods. Hopefully more people find this channel! Amazing!!!
Knocked it out of the park again!
By far my favourite character.
Cerci, Daenerys, and Michelle Fairley reminds me of the book The Great Mother
Fear doesnt last beyond death. You dont fear someone whos dead. Rarely anyways. But respect and love stick around even when a person dies. often especially after a person dies, as we see with artists and celebrities
You have made a great video
Love your angle
You should do Stannis next
I know these videos of the Lannisters are a year older or more, but you mentioned (I think in your Cersei video) that you would be interested in making a video specifically about Jaime and Cersei’s relationship. I would love to hear your thoughts on them!
he reminds me of Augustus
Two thumbs-up!!! Awesome
Good Stuff!
good job❤️
Great video, could you make videos about the different family Dynamics in the world of GoT. Like, Baratheons represent mutual distrust and infighting. Martells represent impulsiveness and rash behaviour leading to downfall
That's a very good idea! I will add it to my list and address it in the future. :)
I would say that only the Sand Snakes were impulsive, but Prince Doran himself was not.
And what would you say the Starks & Tyrells represent.
Keep making videos, please
Young Tywin is Blonde Levi🥶
I love your stuff, but please. Talk more slowly. Excitement can make us speak at a pace that is hard for others to keep up with 😁
And there I felt like I'm dragging it out sometimes, haha! I will work on it. :)
@@FictionPsychology Thanks for replying : ) Don't forget that many terms you use are unknown to most listeners. I also appreciate small breaks of 6-8 seconds after a chapter, so that the listener has a moment to process the thoughts. Your material is very dense, which itself is an achievement.
By the way, what is your first language? Based on accents I know I would guess Portuguese :-)
@@Crafty_Spirit I usually explain the terms I deem least known, but I suppose some are unknown even when I think they're known, haha. That's good to know! There's certainly a lot of room for improvement.
I have a British + Eastern-European background. :) I also play around a bit with the intonation in the videos (although I do misplace the stress sometimes, I think), so I sound different in real life. But I do feel like my accent is rather moody sometimes.
Awesome video, I hope you do one on Daenerys one day.
Thank you! And I definitely will! Daenerys is a great and complex character that I'm really looking forward to make a video about. I only wish the book series were finished already, as we know how things can change from one moment to another unexpectedly in GoT. I am, however, inclined to trust that Dany's core won't change, as it wouldn't make sense at all, given the archetypal background she stands for (and that's also why the twist they made in the show was a disastrous decision).
@@FictionPsychology I hope Dany's core 🙏 won't change also. The switch in the show was disastrous because she went from the girl who post posed her quest for the throne to fight the army of the dead first in order to save the continent to the most evil character in game of thrones, she topped Joffrey and Ramsay in the end which is crazy because Dany was nowhere near as evil as either one of them
13:54 lol too good. Even Tyrion was not so witty.
GREAT VIDEO!
18:30 who did the artwork in the background
If and when you know the truth, you are free.
I picture the narrator as Shae
What's the name of the background song?
I adore this channel.
I would love to see you do a video like this on the Baratheon brothers, specifically Stannis Baratheon.
The voice is so like Sansa stark
Subbed.
0:18 It's literally deniable that he was a great strategist, at least as a military strategist. Was he a great politician? Heck yeah, but commending wasn't really his strength.
Before you guys go bUt TyWiN iS tHe SmArTeSt MeN iN wEsTeRoS aNd He Is A gReAt StRaTeGiSt! I'm gonna say, yes, he is smart indeed. But not as smart as fandom thinks. And he is not exactly a military strategist either. Let's analyze his battles. (Only counting the ones that Tywin got involved alone, so I won't mention Battle of 9 Penny Kings, Greyjoy Rebellion and Robert's Rebellion) So, let me prove it!
1-) His first battle was the one against Tarbecks and Reynes. He destroyed both houses. But again, both of them were falling houses, but Lannisters were strong and rich as ever. They had a great army and had advantage in numbers. So, no surprise that Tywin was able to destroy them both.
2-) He plundered King's Landing. Honestly, this wasn't a military success. He only waited to see how the war was going and then attacked King's Landing when it was weakened. So, plundering a city isn't exactly fighting in a war with strategy.
3-) The Battle of Greenfolk. Now that's when we finally see Tywin as a commander. Yes, they defeated Roose Bolton's forces. But again, they were greater in numbers and Tyrion's mountain clans were involved too. And we see that Tywin's plan actually failed, because he tried to get rid off the mountain clans (and Tyrion as well). But it didn't work. And also, we know for a fact that Roose Bolton didn't actually want to win that battle (even then, his betrayal was foreshadowed). So, Tywin could easily lose that one despite being greater in numbers.
4-) The Battle of Whispering Wood. I know that Tywin wasn't involved in the battle as a person, but that's the problem. He could prevent Stark army from saving the Riverlands and capturing Jaime. Before the Battle of Greenfolk, Kevan suggested Tywin to stay at their current location since the natural area had its advantages and it would be easier to defeat the Stark forces. If Tywin actually listened to Kevan, he could prevent the river from dividing his army from Jaime's. And he could move to Riverlands much sooner. But he didn't. And as result, half of the Lannister army got destroyed, Jaime got captured and Starks saved Riverlands.
5-) The Battle of Blackwater. Tywin and Tyrells came to help in the last minute and defeated Stannis. But Stannis' army was already weakened and some of it was destroyed by Tyrion's wildfire. So, Tywin (again) used the numbers.
And let's not forget, Robb Stark defeated Lannister forces in every single battle.
I'm saying all this, because there's a huge misconception about Tywin Lannister and his commander skills.
I don’t know what Witchery you are speaking of women , but give me a battle axe as I would follow Tywin to victory !
Where did you get these facts??
Comment to help with the algorithm. Cool stuff.
I kinda think of Tywin as a man of his time. He's cool, abusive, but still cool. But I wouldn't like the world that has like 6 million people of Tywin, it would leave me questioning myself if I will ever be good enough not to be discarded? Or I will never be good enough anyway no matter how much I try, because, because my name is not Tywin Lannister. Same as Littlefinger, I find him used to be very idolized by younger me lmao but I wouldn't like it either if this world has like 6 you know the number. I would have left feeling paranoia if anyone will be backstabbed me all the time. Will today I encounter a backstabber? Or should one day I become one of them because they fight dirty so I should fight dirty to protect my... lower to their level self?
*not a diagnostic tool
Tywin also has a need to dominate his son Tyrion for some reason
Tywin's biggest failing was he wasn't able to see what was in front of him. An he allowed his children to become self centered morons. All because of his ego an pride.
I hope it is Daenerys that dethrones the Lannister and/or kills Cersei. Some people have theorized that Danaerys could be the valonqar because she is someone's younger sibling and the word valonqar is Valyrian and we know Daenerys is Valyrian.
Tyrion is the mad kings seed , if he was portrayed as per his description more people would note , mismatched eyes & hair & u a definitely correct about Targaryen genetics how it can manifest itself.
Still wish i was one of them soldiers that got to have a night with tysha bet they all had fun and she got paid 😢
Omg this guy... 😱 The father of the year... 🤢
hmm the moment you realise you could be sctriphenic and a narcisistic......
Aren't narcissistic personality disorder and schizoid personality disorder mutually exclusive? Narcissists display high values in trait extraversion, while schizoids display very low values in trait extraversion. Given from what I've seen, Tywin is very introverted, the lack of laughter speaks extremely for this. So If I have to choose, I'd rather say he is a schizoid rather than a narcissist.
i dont think tyrion was aegons son. historically, in families such as the habsburgs, all it took to bring on viable children was a single bout of fresh blood in the form of an outsider bride. inbreeding can be catastrophic, but it is so, because recessive genes are allowed to echo for generations. a non-inbred relation such as a targaryen man and a lannister woman would be extremely unlikely to produce a damage child (as opposed to a targaryen woman who probably have weird as fuck dragon-infused eggs, id imagine).
tyrion is a product of inbreeding, but that inbreeding stems from tywins cousin marriage, making tyrion a visible failure of the proud house lannister and a blight to tywins glory project
Definitely disagree with your conclusions,
God may say he opposes the proud, but he doesn't. He himself is proud, so his quote becomes meaningless.
Quote scripture that proves that
@@leonrobinson8180 or you can just take it on faith & piss off
An armchair psychoanalysis with many leaps and zero commas.
Speak English
Can you speak slower?
Seems more like a Machiavellian then a narcissist