A lot of people seem to have misunderstood what I was saying about odyssey. My point isn't that there's LITERALLY wasn't a stealth system. It was that the stealth system is made completely redundant by both the broken levelling system and the level design that clearly encourages and incentivises taking a combat centric approach.
It really doesn't, stealth in Odyssey is a perfectly viable strategy trough the entire game, you can approach and clear ANY location on the map while undetected (if you try, you where exposing yourself in all the footage you have shown) and if you actually use and combo "demigod powers" literally nothing can stop you. To say that only Odyssey has this problem is to ignore how utterly broken combat was in any other previous game, Unity was the exception because combat was not good or fast enough to effectively fight more than three enemies at a time, especially if any of them had guns, wich forced a stealth approach. If you want proof, just look at any gameplay from "SwiftlyUnknown" or "NovaIce", just because you are not good, doesn't mean the game is bad.
@@scarabyt Guess I tought it was self evident, since you supposedly tried playing stealthy, but ok, here goes. It may take a while... 1) Lack of tools or ranged items - the bow in Odyssey is the single most versatile ranged weapon in the series, incorporating all of the bow types from Origins plus the equivalent of a mortar, and even an explosive blast, not to mention the six different types of arrows wich essentially works as substitute of poison darts and throwing knives plus a non lethal variant and they are ALL affected by the "demigod powers". The ability "Vanish" is literally a smoke bomb. 2) the experience seems similiar 10h in or 100h in - this is more of a personal opinion on your part and far from objective, the massive variety of weapons (all with different strenghts and weaknesess, unlike the previous games except Origins) plus the various powers and specializations allow for a variety of approaches unseen before. This is the only AC game where a ranged, combat and stealthy approach are equally as valid, both time-wise and in effectiveness. You can also respec whanever you are bored of a specific playstyle be it 10h in or 100h. 3) The game discourage a stealth approach - aside from conquest battles and some minor scraps during the main story, every single bandit camp, fort, fortress and military camp can be cleared stealthly. You can also try a more direct approach, or a mix of all of them, the choice is yours. And the possibilities only increase the more skills you unlock. 4) enemy levels - obviously if you rush trough the main quest you are gonna find yourself underleveled but if you do side quests, explore and buy or upgrade gear this is never s problem. Altough I agree that level locking mission, especially plot critical ones is kinda unnecessary. 5) hard to one shot assasinate enemies - any amount of assassination damage allows to kill the weaker enemies, wich in turn gives you adrenaline to kill tougher enemies. Every assassin ability gives a multiplier wich allows to kill stronger enemies than normal and keep the flow going. The ability "heavy assassination" allows you to one hit kill literally anything aside for bosses (if you have a good enough ass. damage of course). As per the levels, you do realize that enemy levels scale with yours right? Unless you intentionally go in a higer level area you will almost never find an enemy more than one or two levels higer than you, and even then maybe one or two in an entire castle. You can even customize how much the levels scale in the options menus. 6) more efficient to fight than sneak- unlike AC2 right? Or Brotherhood? Ac3? How about "I have four guns but basically no stealth gadgets" AC4? Like I said, watch some gameplay of people that can actually sneak well, then tell me it's inefficient, I dare you. 7) it basically doesn't have one - lol As for the level design I admit, I have no idea what you mean. The areas designated for stealth are littered with walls to hide behind, under or above, there is shrubbery everywhere and pretty much every level has both a high ground to avoid detection and a ridiculous amount of hanging ropes to ease navigation. There are always secret entrances in every building you can slide in (usually covered by some grenery) and secret entrances from outside you can find with Hikaros (himself,incidentaly, a very useful tool to distract guards), not to mention you can enter ANY fort from any goddamn angle you desire. Seriously, what did you mean by that? Look, if you don't like it, that's fine, but literally every single complaint you expressed is either a personal flaw or demonstrably wrong. Please, go back to the game and actually try to sneak, you'l find it's actually very fun and EXTREMELY viable. Sorry for the long ass comment, but you asked for clarifications :) P.s. I'd love to have a reply, if anything to see if you have any doubts or any more criticisms. Otherwise can I assume you admit you were wrong?
Assassin's Creed's stealth was never about crouching behind objects to hide from your enemies, it was always about hiding in PLAIN SIGHT. The "Assassin fantasy" that every one keeps yelling about, social stealth, the 2nd tenet of the creed, this is what it means. How many times do I have to remind this to the people??
I constantly find myself watching hours of pro AC Unity players playing through sections of the game. I'm just amazed by all the movement and stealth options at your disposal. AC Unity was a step in the right direction :/
Assassin's creed unity is the only game I've ever played,mostly because I can't afford other games but I've playing since I got my ps4 and I'm still not bored of it,theres a lot to discover like new routes,ways,etc.I honestly do love that game
@John Brophy the way you describe is the best I heard of Connor. But I have to disagree on Arno being worst then Connor. Arno also had potential. Especially after dead kings
Compared to the recent Assassin games Unity is a fucking masterpiece. I genuinely already thought it was a decent game when it was updated but playing Valhalla has made me appreciate it even more.
@@whyleo- Just keep playing the steal the painting mission and you'll get there in no time. It spawns in right at the start sometimes so you just grab and finish.
Honestly I love that AC4 was designed so you can just stealth board a ship without starting the naval battle, and slowly go around stabbing and shooting everyone on board until you're able to go back and capture the ship with a single cannonball. It was painfully slow, yes, but it was an option if you thought your Jackdaw was too underequipped to handle the ship in front of you. I snagged a Level 60 Man o' War in the earlygame that way, and it was incredibly satisfying, but it also took me like half an hour so I wouldn't begin to assume that I was intended to do that. And I wouldn't mind seeing more of that kind of thing again. Endgame-difficulty content being surmountable with enough patience and dedication, I mean. Overcoming giants is thrilling in its own right, and not something often possible in level-based RPG systems with scaling stats.
Unity is seriously slept on. After the patches it’s a great game. I can’t wait to play at 60 FPS on the series x. I just wish they would’ve kept Arno as a character and continue to develop him after the dead kings DLC for the next few games. AC would still be top tier if they would’ve expanded on his story
Unity sucks. ...but It is also my favorite game in the series. It had all the right ideas, had the right setting, it was going in the right direction It was just poorly executed on different levels. AC Unity should have been perfected. No game has been more true to AC 1's legacy than Unity.
Damn right. Same with ac3. Unity and Ac3 got so much hate from fans no wonder ubisoft went sideways and tried find new fans with completely new type of games. It's our own fault. We had something good and imagine if unity got 3 games like Ac2 it would have been on another level
I like the gameplay but I just forced myself to finish it and didn't enjoy it much because the story is so cheesy and doesn't even make sense s lot of times, like how he can see the memories of his victims.
@@ajayavsm7476 Yes stealth in Assassin's Creed has always been an option but in the first game, Social Stealth was the way the devs intented it to be played and it was supposed to be the main selling point of AC1. But many people didn't understand this and decided to always use combat and they hated AC1. You get a FAR better experience playing AC1 if you use social stealth and try to hide and escape from guards rather than fighting them.
@@ajayavsm7476 The new games doesn't do that, sure stealth is still an option but it's very limited and the game aren't advertised for being about social stealth.
@@ajayavsm7476 One more thing. Many people criticised the old AC games for their combat being slow and button mashy, it was done that on purpose so the player could use social stealth more often and in AC2 they decided to give Ezio a huge arsenal of tools that would make combat faster and stealth sections much more complex.
@@ajayavsm7476 even if it is somewhat optional, Valhalla wasn’t even advertised as a stealth game. Ubi just wanted to make a fantasy Viking game with AC elements sprinkled on it
My biggest problem with the early game’s stealth systems is how when you rush an enemy and assassinate them, their detection meter will fill and you’ll be detected and gain notoriety even though they died a second after.
The detection meter thing only happens in AC2 because the detection system in that game is bugged, and rushing an archer in the Ezio Trilogy will get the guard to turn around, so I recommend you walk and assassinate. I fully agree with the notorriety thing though, I love the classic AC games but the notoriety is SO annoying and always triggers my OCD.
@@SuperSteph5 Yeah but there is ONE problem. In AC2 you had to progress through the game to unlock those items you unlocked the Medici cape which permanently keep your notoriety down in Florence and San gimignano and by the time you unlock the cape the Medici chapter is already completed, so you're most likely never going to use it. Same thing with the Venetian cape you unlock it after the Venice chapter. Now you could argue that you may use these items during free roam, but remember AC2 is a very story driven game. In Brotherhood you only have one city and you unlock the Auditore cape by fully 100% renovating Rome which again you most likely won't use for the majority of your playthrough since it takes alot of time.
Well... I have a similar problem with the newer games especially Valhalla. Every time I try to stealth and kill someone a enemy on the other side of the map spots me and no no no you can forget to lose the enemies again to start stealthing again. Not until every enemy in range is dead you can stealth again. And that happened every time I tried to stealth in Valhalla...
@@cezarstefanseghjucan Any historical proof for assassins in hoods using parkour being able to take on multiple armed targets in a world with magic? your a moron
@@cezarstefanseghjucan There was no historical proof for Ezio & Altair to use hidden guns either Assassins have always had more advanced tech that they hid from public knowledge.
You could hide behind walls since AC3 as a standalone feature and wait behind the wall and immediately assassinate since AC1. Congratulations, smoke bpmbs existed since AC2
@@cezarstefanseghjucan my ass. No literally I farted and they started dropping like flies because I had beans before going on the mission. WANAN know why I am british that’s why beans
I enjoyed Syndicate's stealth system the most. And the addition of the line launcher made it even more smoother than ever. After air assassinating an enemy, you could line launch above and disappear in a heartbeat like a nocturnal creature of the night. Assassin's Creed Syndicate is the only AC game that made me truly feel like an "assassin". Plus that Jack The Ripper DLC, icing on the cake.
The stealth skills were the most satisfying. The only game that perfected it in my opinion, every scenario had a different anaimation. Unity was close but it felt kind of underwhelming to just play the default kill when crouching and they werent as aggresive as syndicate.
Why unity is good, The first assasins creed that has crouching button Unity let you use 2 damn ultility Unity got damn smooth ass parkour And there is crowd of people everywhere Kind of a good combat(imo) And beautiful settings Unity story kinda meh Also fuck bishop
Why Unity was bad: -Story was boring and dumb -Ai is dumb making stealth so easy (worst in the series) -Combat system is unbalanced -Super Glitchy even after patches -Crowds everywhere reduse your need to strategize -Boring and Ugly map design
@@mynamedoesntfi--6161 if only they gave it more time to polish it, plus the combat system is good unlike odyssey, which is like GOW, and about the stealth, they should have made the npc's more sensitive to the environment. and the crowds in the city is perfect, you only strategize when it is an indoors mission.
@@thesimpledude186 the combat in odyssey is great if you upgrade your warrior damage and you need to think of when to strike or parry or dodge but unity is only parry and hit it is dumb and boring and strategizing is needed to know what to do but unity is just walk through a crowd and stab the guy and it is to simple and easy, the entire stealth is boring and easy as hell
ACU was the best of the old AC. The stealth mechanics and parkour, the densely populated streets of Paris that really made you feel like a blade in the crowd, the setting of the game itself really made you feel like an assassin. Too bad we won't get another game like that anymore.
Unity is not one of the old games. It is only not in the reboot. An Unity is so damn Shit the only thing the protagonist can do is jump 20 meters. And the graphics are only good. System, concept, settings all is shit
Man, the Unity sandbox mission design was brilliant, so fun to do trying to work out the best way for you to complete the assassination. Felt so cool sneaking into a large Parisian mansion and finding a way to get to your target. This is pure and simply what Assassin's Creed should be and I'm sad we haven't had more gameplay like this.
As much as I love the new AC games, I do hope that in the future they can strike a balance between stealth and combat. Even if Valhalla's stealth was bad, the fact that they attempt to bring back stealth at all is a step in the right direction.
@John Browning Short version: Syndicate is wasted potential considering how Unity was a really good foundation to actually innovating the series Long version below: Personally see it as wasted potential and a slap in the face to the idea of improving on the dumpster fire of a release Unity had, as well as it's incredible potential. That engine could've been the key to the best we'd see of AC. Sadly they followed up with something mediocre and unfulfilled potential, with plenty of bad design choices - The Grappling Hook; Ubisoft made the foundation of the most fluid and smooth parkour system ever seen in Unity, and what do they do? Introduce a grappling hook that makes that entire system obsolete. I've heard people saying that it's needed because of how tall and far apart the buildings are in London. Then... why set the game there in the first place? Why set your game in a location where one of your most core features is useless? Paris was perfect for the parkour system; vast and tightly packed with roofs, ledges, clotheslines, balconies, trees, and buildings to run and climb over. Why put the game in a location where it's the exact opposite of that? Truly ironic, given how London is the capital of Parkour in real life - Combat system; Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Syndicate's combat far more than Unity. But it just gets so ridiculous and unrealistic. Enemies just stand there slouched, waiting for you to finish them off. This is especially annoying to watch in the triple/quad kills. Enemies make no effort to even defend themselves, they don't fight for their lives like they did in the dual kills of AC3/4. It's really baffling how Ubisoft fucks up things they've done right in the past - Story; Jacob fucks something up, Evie fixes his fuck ups. That's the story, basically. Nothing compelling, no exploration of deeper themes, no stakes for us to care about This game improves a lot of things like the cover system, the ranged weapons, the combat overall, and downgrades on other things like the customization, tools, and the beginning of level gates. Not a bad game by any means, but far too average to like
Your spot on too with Syndicate mate I just finished it last night. The blackbox missions are the best part of the game. They definitely took mission design with stealth a lot more seriously than it’s narrative. Syndicate also added the kidnap mechanic which was a great new form of stealth when it worked.
@@zicuvalentin2251 Odyessey had no stealth options
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I think syndicate is above unity since you have a stealth ring, you can whistle, carry bodies, get invisible, and kidnap, not to mention that you can use your own zipline to create stealthy paths
Can't ever forget the experience of playing AC2 and the title showing up in the sky after a parkour race with the most epic background score playing in the background. AC2 was a game changer for me.
Pretty good ranking overall. I only disagree with two things: 1) I would put Valhalla below Odyssey because even though Odyssey doesn’t respect your time with the statted stealth, if you do grind and get a good build, you can actually do stealth properly. With Valhalla, there is nothing you can do to make that stealth system work. It’s just truly rotten to the core. 2) Origins stealth below AC1, 2, and 3 seems wrong to me. The stealth mechanics are significantly more intuitive and expressive than what any of those games offer, even if it doesn’t have social stealth. The only real issue with the system is its reliance on stats, but even that is mostly negligible if you stay in areas that aren’t too high of a level for you. Other than those, though, I can’t disagree too much on anything. Solid video.
That all makes complete sense, with Origins, it purely falls behind those 3 because of the lack of social stealth, as for Valhalla and Odyssey, at this point their near interchangeable, cheers for the support gamer
@@ryanc3609 oh yea, it’s horrid. It shows complete disrespect for the player’s time. But at least it’s possible to achieve if you’re that desperate. There’s nothing you can do like that for Valhalla.
@@ryanc3609 i didnt even Grind a long time (1½ hours ofc i already finished the game so i had enough money to go to the smith) for my 100% krit stealth build (so i can Basicly oneshot every enemy) and i only can say if you use your abilites good the stealth is really flowing what i really enjoy. Your pearks really have impact Not like valhalla where you get 2% more fire resistence with a Rune :)
@@kemanb2739 How easy the combat is doesn't subtract from the quality of stealth. And it depends on the player's style. I'm always going full stealth and let enemies kill me the moment I get noticed. I prefer to think in games rather than mash buttons. And as far as I'm aware, Syndicate's stealth system was was the most fun and most giving.
@@kemanb2739 woah I could never get used to syndicates combat. Usually in most ac games when and enemy is going to attack it gives you a decently long warning. But in syndicate the enemy's health bar flashes for a split second
Man, Syndicate is my favorite game in the series and the stealth freedom it gave us was a big improvement on Unity in my opinion. This stealth is the style I desperately wish the series would return to.
I think that the story sucks, but still the gameplay is somehow soo smooth and it's basically the enhanced unity system with some minor changes. I think that a mix between those two would be the perfect stealth game that assassin's creed fans want. As well as the scenario of both of them which explain the density of people (even though syndicate has a lot less)
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@@kyaryi1 I mean leaving bodies exposed was always a perfectly workable strategy before Unity, and very useful at that, but removing the ability to hide bodies at all feels quite back-asswards. But yeah I can't whistle either.
For a guy who wasn't even an assassin Edward sure tailed people to kill/rob them WAY too often...and I think that bothers everyone, especially since most of the time you just followed them through walls or from the roofs with eagle vision line of sight be damned. Great character arc though, but if I were to remake the game I'd definitely change up the mission content.
You're pretty brave for putting Syndicate up that high but I agree, it's really underrated. The tools the game gives you in combination with the level design allow you to solve encounters in a miriad of ways, and the AI is competent enough to be challenging but not frustrating
I must say that I agree with you on Unity. The game is the only one that encouraged me to play as an assassin, and the stealth was extremely fun. The other games I played were either too easy, or pushing me into combat.
Your analysis of different games is astounding and you sir have gained a new subscriber for your perfectly laid out video with evidence to back up your claims
As much as I love AC Unity, I found myself enjoying the stealth in AC Origins much more, to my own surprise. I can smoothly clear out entire military camps and forts with no detection, and it feels so good. There are so many entry points, all the guards stay marked once you mark them, so you don't have to use eagle vision every 10 seconds to make sure if anyone's around the corner.
I could not enjoy Unities stealth at all. It felt like guard detection was inconsistent and certain tools like the noise bomb and phantom blade felt glitchy. I would clearly throw it in a guards line of site or near a guard and nothing happens. The phantom blade often glitched up and would not work.
Excellent video. I agree with most of what has been said. Kudos to you for giving your true opinion on the series despite knowing some people may not like it.
Gonna be real, I never felt any stealth on the Ezio games, had more enjoyment with the stealth in Origins-Valhalla. Odyssey stealth was so satisfying to me, the bit of infiltrating fortresses and getting out undetected. Unity reigns on top though.
I know what you mean, Oddessey, Valhalla and Origin, I sneak in and out of camps, forts etc. without being detected while having cleared the whole place.
I don’t really know what you’re talking about with Odyssey. I’ve cleared countless forts in that game with no detections and like 90% one-hit assassinations.
Stealth in that game is really satisfying. Shallow, but fun. To see the enemy health bar changed to red result in an instant kill with a cool weighty animation.
I think what he meant is not saying that Odyssey "doesn't have stealth" but it's more like it pushes you or rather I should say encourage you to go HnS on all enemies, which would make sense, since they are kinda trying to go in that direction with AC, so it's not completely a fault, it's just how the game was made, if you like stealth you will not be super happy as when you played Unity, if you don't like stealth, you'll like the new ACs.
I agree. I think really the only issue some people have with Odyssey's stealth is the fact you have to get some upgrades before it starts to work. Once you've spent a little bit of time in the game and spent the points to make your character a stealthy assassin, it works fantastically.
Looks like other persons played Odyssey for just a couple of hours and left it when bored. They didn't even get to the part where you can use "shadow of nyx" + pligrim set combo, along will extra passive skill that increases critical assassination chance and damage. Most of the cultist I killed where assassinated 1 hit (no need to use hero strike or rush assassination when failed to 1 hit). The ones I didnt were the ones you are required to fight.
Whilst yes, Odyssey focused more on combat than the other games, a lot of what Scarab just said about this is just... not true. I stealthed Odyssey. Like, the entire game. I didn't like it's combat and I was bad at it, so I focused entirely on stealth. You can one hit assassinate every non-boss enemy in the game with the exception of Polemarchs. Use Critical Assasination - it does a LOT fo damage, and with the Stealth Master perk it does even more at night time. Even if that doesn't immediately kill someone, you can follow up with a Hero strike and it's a 100% guaranteed kill. Like, every time. There are absolutely ranged options. The Rush Assassination skill can be chained several times and has very good range. You can even chain between two high level enemies repeatedly for higher damage. Get a decent Hunter or Predator bow and you can one-shot headshot most enemies. You can do the same with the charged bow shot ability. I understand it's not ranged utility like a smoke bomb or berserker dart, but there ARE plenty of ranged options that allow for stealthy play. The game's geography can still be used for stealth. It's no longer the 'hide in the crowd' of Unity and Syndicate, or the 'hit and run' of the American trilogy' or the 'ledges and haystacks' of the Ezio trilogy. It's the 'wild hunter' of the mythological trilogy. You drop down from rock faces above. You sneak around through vast swathes of reeds and bushes. You scale ancient monuments and climb through the doors above the guard's heads. You use Ikaros/Senu/Synin to scout ahead and plan your approach. Yes, you have to spec into stealth, instead of it being immediately available. But seriously, it is THERE, it is accessible, and getting good at stealth in Odyssey is no different to becoming good at combat or becoming good at arrow usage. It's just different. Now, that is completely separate from it's thematic departures from the other games, like the magic, monsters and cheapened Isu tech. I didn't like that part. But I did love Odyssey as it stood on it's own.
Yes exactly! I love the stealth in the new games. At least in Origins and Odyssey because I did not played Valhalla yet but I will. Its great how you can approach a fort etc. with so much freedom and you can use the sourroundings and the geography like you said. Its so much fun to clear out an enemy fortress. The stealth feels like Metal Gear Solid 5 wich is my favourite game ever when it comes to stealth. Senu, Ikaros and Synin is are also a great addition in my opinion.
THANK YOU! So many people shit on Odyssey as "ohhh there's no stealth its all just hack-n-slash" like dude if you took the ten seconds to make an assassin's build and actually TRY to be stealthy instead of assuming the game will just do it for you then you'd have a great time. Honestly, I think full-stealthing a fort and clearing it out undetected is INFINITELY more satisfying in Odyssey than in any of the other games, just because of how much more difficult it is. Fantastic game, and I personally loved the magic and monsters, although I completely understand what a departure it is from the other AC games. Odyssey might not be an AC game but it sure as hell is a good game.
@@Batman-hb9dh Hmmm, I dont think so, I really like it. After so many games with the parry/attack/parry/attack system Im glad that we have something that is refreshing and feels more dynamic. Also the powers are pretty cool in my opinion.
Unity's stealth would of been FANTASTIC with ONE added feature. Whistling. This year I replayed it start to finish and it is the ONE mechanic that it needed
I love the fact that Unity gets so much love now. I was fortunate enough not to experience that many glitches on release, hence why it’s always been in my top 3 AC. The graphics are still as good as any of the modern ac games as well.
If you want to fix the "problem" of accidentally attacking instead of assassinating enemies in Valhalla you can 1. Wait till the "assassinate" prompt comes up (the assassinate button and the amount of damage you will do) or 2. Change the assassinate button so that it's not the same as the attack button, no hate at all, just a helpful suggestion :)
Yeah after about 10 hours I did this and it was completely fine. My point with that clip was that it's even a possibility. Every other game in the series separate assassinations from attacks, preventing that from happening, but because Valhalla is built purely to be an 'epic viking raider', there's no safety in place to prevent it. The fact that the player has to actively change the settings just for the system to work is a problem in itself
I have played Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla in stealth when they ask so much that I end the game with 2000 stealth kills done during the entire campaign, do not tell me that it is a Viking game that
The campaign is like 70 hours. And the world is huge. Getting stealth kills is not hard. But there is a severe lack of options for stealth to the point where the crouch button is the most you can do
@@khaoss4024 The times in which you must play stealth is very noticeable and it is on several occasions, valhalla is a 50/50 stealth both in combat but I opted more for stealth and took more casualties in this
2:37 to get around that problem of attacking when you want to assassinate in valhalla, simply change assassinate to the Y/triangle button instead of R1, you’ll never accidentally attack an assassination target again.
Holy shit man I really miss classic AC. Seeing that Unity footage brings me back. The animations are so fucking smooth. The parkour is amazing. Combat was fun too, no bullet sponge enemies. And the graphics still hold up to this day.
@@scarabyt Honestly i agree. Alot of other channels wouldve toxicly shat on games like Odyssey. It nice to see someone who doesn't like Odyssey stealth and isnt toxic about it.
To me Unity definitely has one of the best sneaking and parkour elements in the series, the routes of the soldiers in the guarded areas are perfectly designed with more fun and excitement of infiltration than other AC games, you feel more like an assassin with the protagonist's abilities being constrained realistically, soldiers can easily kill you when they chase you down, but unfortunately, subsequent Assassin's Creed did not inherit Unity's sneaking and parkour mechanics, abandoned the creed of being an assassin
Valhalla stealth even with he’s reasons is in the top 5 for me, the way you have to be careful in the towns and it makes sense for the guards to spot you easier, the AI has always been too stupid, sometimes even too slow to notice you, and the fact that if you jump from somewhere high or move to fast, the guards will notice that and check there, i just love the stealth
I recently went back and started playing through ac series from the first game. Its amazing to see how much the gameplay has steered away from actually being an assassin. The last 3 games being case in point, but especially Valhalla. it really needs to return to a more stealth orientated approach, rather than just killing everybody in sight lol
I felt like out of all the recent AC games unity had the most potential but Ubi literally ruined it if only they had more time to fix glitches improve the story and refine the gameplay mechanics it could have been a great AC game
It’s always fun to see the disparity in experiences with Unity. Mine was terribly buggy. Other people didn’t have that. I’m envious of your experience, as the game had a lot going for it.
I have to disagree with Odyssey. At its core it’s an rpg, which means everything depends on how you spec. I got Kassandra to a 96% crit chance so all I had to make sure of was their health fell by half in an assassination. It’s actually really easy to clear whole areas by stealth and I ended up handicapping myself by not using the invisibility option less than half way through because things were too easy.
@@nirmithra1 Exactly! And for the people complaining about the Isu abilities, there's literally a gear perk that gives a damage boost at the cost of their use.
@@madcat1865 also others forgot that you can switch equipped sets while not on conflict (i used pilgrim set when doing assassination, then change to a warrior set when doing battles). How i wish you change passive abilities fast (since you can only do reset and manually learn the skills you need).
@@Incognito_1412 Honestly, I took the video as a grain of salt when he said that Odyssey didn't have any stealth. Then he went on about Valhalla that its stealth mechanics weren't implemented correctly when he totally misses the target at 2:55, because he isn't close enough to the target. After that, he complains about the detection system in Valhalla, but this system has been the most realistic of any other game in the series. You can't just hide again as if nothing happened in real life either, a harder difficulty doesn't mean that it's worse. Valhalla even gives players the option to choose their own stealth difficulty and to enable one-hit assassinations so players don't have to invest in a stealth build.
@@LucassenR all the ac channels don't even try to spec into the assassin branch. They play and expect the same easy one-shots from the old games, then complains the stealth is broken while they kill someone in plain sight.
Unity gives you one of the best parkour moves, multiple assassins working together like brotherhood, stealth u get it here, awesome storyline....no arguing
One of the AC hills I will die on is that Unity is one of the best games in the franchise, rivalling Ezio in my eyes. In so many ways this game was an incredible next gen AC including stealth it absolutely deserves the top spot in the franchise in this regard, we can finally crouch for a start! Also yes it goes without saying that the RPG AC are the worst in many respects especially stealth, I would barely distinguish between them
@@sneezystudios5856 imo people just set themselves up for disappointment when comparing a later installment to the highly regarded past installment. It’s like comparing borderlands 2 to 3, of course the new protagonists, story, and villain won’t top the past one.
Syndicates one of my top favorites bc its so modern and do well though I don't like how you have to be crouched to put the hood on its oh welp everything was fun but the cartoon fighting was alright too
You can very well play an assassin or a hunter-assassin hybrid in AC Odyssey. There's an ability that makes you invisible, and the Spear of Leonidas has the same purpose as the hidden blade plus the ability to assassinate targets from afar.
I played odessey with complete stealth build and oh boy the stealth was so satisfying in that game I was able to oneshot any enemy even 1 or 2 level above me though the game doesnt feel like ac game it does give you option to play how you want to play
It's a great game stfu. Everyone is just copy and pasting their opinion from their favorite shitty youtubers in 2014. actually fucking play it it's amazing.
@@connorbanepoop You want a personal opinion, AC was fun when it worked, but from playing the game it was littered with lots of glitches, some of which were game breaking, stealth added some cool features but was buggy af, parkour was decent but half the time it didn’t work, combat was fun tho
Gotta say, I actually really hate Unity stealth. You make one minor mistake, and all of the rest of your efforts for that mission is wasted effort, as every guard in a 3 mile radius suddenly gains Superman hearing and storms your location. It may be superficially challenging, but I never had fun with it. Most of the late game missions just ends with spamming smoke bombs and heavy attacks, after a single guy spotting your left ass cheek in the doorway and summons all his 73 friends. I'll take the average half-steath, half-combat approach that AC usually sticks with, any day of the week
I agree AC1's stealth despite being simple is extremely fun to use and master and is in my opinion the most immersive and definitve way of playing AC1. AC2's stealth system is by no means bad but the detection system is so broken for that game, and AC2's feels like it's less about social stealth and more about hiding.
I recently got back into the series after my last game being AC3 and I’m currently at origins. I’m sure it’s a common thing to say but I’m already really missing the earlier games
I think unity may have had an absence amount of bugs and still does, and the story might now have been the most polished it was still insanely fun, the freedom to tackle it how you saw fit was amazing, giving you options to focus on improving your ability to take damage, deal damage, sneak, or kill from a range and utilize gadgets, the combat was challenging especially early on but fun and it felt like the farther you got you made genuine progress, and could easily master your play style by the end, it was so ahead of its time, and I would love to see Ubisoft try something like what they did with unity again
This is pretty much also true for characters, Altair, Ezio, Arno, Edward Kenway and the Frye siblings are memorable, and except for Altair and Ezio, who were masters, were worthy of being considered assassins. Also, I wish we could get remastered versions of Altair and Ezio games with Unity's scale and mechanics through its later developed game engine
unity did have a well thought out stealth system but in terms of origins, odyssey, and Valhalla I have played all three and for the most part have been able to go full stealth no detection
Origins’ stealth for me is actually my favorite and the best of the franchise because it’s the one where I’m best at and for me, it’s just the one that works the best which means that it’s the most functioning but that’s just my opinion tho and I know that I’m biased as fuck with that statement. 😂
It's decent and not that punishing. Sure, no more hiding in the crowd bs, but at least we can hide in the bush undetected. If only the hidden blade didn't have that level upgrade bullshit, Origins would be one of the best AC games ever released.
To be honest, I have to agree in the most part. AC Unity was a masterpiece of stealth, I have never felt so much as an assassin as in this game. Additionaly to the system, you had different clothings which could effect how easy you were to spot, which was great. Your customization made sense. If you wanted more stealth you could become basically invisible in plain sight, but upon detecting you would be screwed in comparisson to fight oriented Arno. Which was also great
Same. Such an incredible game that seems to be overlooked constantly. Pains me to see it grouped with Odyssey and Valhalla simply due to sharing an RPG format.
As much as I love Unity the stealth system is completely broken. The bombs that are supposed to lure guards don’t do anything at all, the guards just look at them. Smoke bombs don’t work because guards can literally see through them, a few days ago I even had some random guard that was supposed to be stunned by the smoke bomb detect me, you can’t whistle in this game, the phantom blade is very limited and don’t even insta kill most of the time, and sometimes I even randomly get detected by guards that are literally on the opposite side of the world, even when there’s literally no one around me. Unity’s stealth is hot garbage, you should have put Syndicate on 1 because these things all work in that game.
I enjoyed the games, but they don't have stealth. Moreover, it lost its main point, as there are so many enemies you simply cannot assassinate that open combat becomes the only option.
I play odyssey stealthily all the time and can kill big health enemies in one hit all the time? Obviously this guy doesn't know how to make a stealth build
It's not about odyssey having viable stealth but it's about how it compares to any other game in the series in regards to stealth, which is, very badly. You can be stealthy in odyssey, there is stealth, it's just worse than all other ac games.
If you want to one hit assassinate in Odyssey you have to focus on building your character to do just that by equipping the right gear to maximize assassin damage. One of the reasons why I love Odyssey lol
Love your videos man! Aside from the relentless Odyssey bashing they’re high quality. I would recommend playing Odyssey again and do more of the side quests some of them are pretty interesting. Don’t look at it so much as an AC game but just play the game for what it is . Try and use stealth as much as possible and build your assassin damage up as much as possible, trust me it makes the game feel much better and stealth becomes a HUGE part of it.
@@sukitron5415 If they’re going to use the name to market a shitty action RPG and ruin the reputation of the franchise in the process, I’m damn well going to judge it for being an Assassin’s Creed game
I respectfully disagree. Unity's gameplay has alot of input lag and the FPS is just terrible due to how many NPC's there are and for the graphics alone. The parkour while looks really fucking cool and cinematic, plays like ass and doesn't have as much control as AC1-Revelations or even the Kenway Saga for that matter.
@@cybercery5271 I played both on console and PC and my experience on PC was better but not quite perfect. The Kenway saga parkour system is by no means perfect but atleast I could side and back eject from any wall in that game.
A lot of people seem to have misunderstood what I was saying about odyssey. My point isn't that there's LITERALLY wasn't a stealth system. It was that the stealth system is made completely redundant by both the broken levelling system and the level design that clearly encourages and incentivises taking a combat centric approach.
1st
It really doesn't, stealth in Odyssey is a perfectly viable strategy trough the entire game, you can approach and clear ANY location on the map while undetected (if you try, you where exposing yourself in all the footage you have shown) and if you actually use and combo "demigod powers" literally nothing can stop you.
To say that only Odyssey has this problem is to ignore how utterly broken combat was in any other previous game, Unity was the exception because combat was not good or fast enough to effectively fight more than three enemies at a time, especially if any of them had guns, wich forced a stealth approach.
If you want proof, just look at any gameplay from "SwiftlyUnknown" or "NovaIce", just because you are not good, doesn't mean the game is bad.
@@ThumbSipper You didn't argue against any of the points I made.
@@scarabyt Guess I tought it was self evident, since you supposedly tried playing stealthy, but ok, here goes.
It may take a while...
1) Lack of tools or ranged items - the bow in Odyssey is the single most versatile ranged weapon in the series, incorporating all of the bow types from Origins plus the equivalent of a mortar, and even an explosive blast, not to mention the six different types of arrows wich essentially works as substitute of poison darts and throwing knives plus a non lethal variant and they are ALL affected by the "demigod powers". The ability "Vanish" is literally a smoke bomb.
2) the experience seems similiar 10h in or 100h in - this is more of a personal opinion on your part and far from objective, the massive variety of weapons (all with different strenghts and weaknesess, unlike the previous games except Origins) plus the various powers and specializations allow for a variety of approaches unseen before. This is the only AC game where a ranged, combat and stealthy approach are equally as valid, both time-wise and in effectiveness.
You can also respec whanever you are bored of a specific playstyle be it 10h in or 100h.
3) The game discourage a stealth approach - aside from conquest battles and some minor scraps during the main story, every single bandit camp, fort, fortress and military camp can be cleared stealthly. You can also try a more direct approach, or a mix of all of them, the choice is yours. And the possibilities only increase the more skills you unlock.
4) enemy levels - obviously if you rush trough the main quest you are gonna find yourself underleveled but if you do side quests, explore and buy or upgrade gear this is never s problem. Altough I agree that level locking mission, especially plot critical ones is kinda unnecessary.
5) hard to one shot assasinate enemies - any amount of assassination damage allows to kill the weaker enemies, wich in turn gives you adrenaline to kill tougher enemies. Every assassin ability gives a multiplier wich allows to kill stronger enemies than normal and keep the flow going. The ability "heavy assassination" allows you to one hit kill literally anything aside for bosses (if you have a good enough ass. damage of course).
As per the levels, you do realize that enemy levels scale with yours right? Unless you intentionally go in a higer level area you will almost never find an enemy more than one or two levels higer than you, and even then maybe one or two in an entire castle. You can even customize how much the levels scale in the options menus.
6) more efficient to fight than sneak- unlike AC2 right? Or Brotherhood? Ac3? How about "I have four guns but basically no stealth gadgets" AC4? Like I said, watch some gameplay of people that can actually sneak well, then tell me it's inefficient, I dare you.
7) it basically doesn't have one - lol
As for the level design I admit, I have no idea what you mean. The areas designated for stealth are littered with walls to hide behind, under or above, there is shrubbery everywhere and pretty much every level has both a high ground to avoid detection and a ridiculous amount of hanging ropes to ease navigation. There are always secret entrances in every building you can slide in (usually covered by some grenery) and secret entrances from outside you can find with Hikaros (himself,incidentaly, a very useful tool to distract guards), not to mention you can enter ANY fort from any goddamn angle you desire. Seriously, what did you mean by that?
Look, if you don't like it, that's fine, but literally every single complaint you expressed is either a personal flaw or demonstrably wrong.
Please, go back to the game and actually try to sneak, you'l find it's actually very fun and EXTREMELY viable.
Sorry for the long ass comment, but you asked for clarifications :)
P.s. I'd love to have a reply, if anything to see if you have any doubts or any more criticisms. Otherwise can I assume you admit you were wrong?
Yea
Although I’m still not a huge fan of unity, you gotta give it credit for being the first game in the series with a CROUCH button.
Yes that was biggest problem solver
But you can still crouch in older games high profile + legs, but you can't move, but it makes you invisible behind short wall.
Assassins Creed never required crouch buttons lmao. The levels werent designed for that.
Assassin's Creed's stealth was never about crouching behind objects to hide from your enemies, it was always about hiding in PLAIN SIGHT. The "Assassin fantasy" that every one keeps yelling about, social stealth, the 2nd tenet of the creed, this is what it means. How many times do I have to remind this to the people??
@@bikkyychaudhry4510 😂 until they understand.
I constantly find myself watching hours of pro AC Unity players playing through sections of the game. I'm just amazed by all the movement and stealth options at your disposal. AC Unity was a step in the right direction :/
Assassin's creed unity is the only game I've ever played,mostly because I can't afford other games but I've playing since I got my ps4 and I'm still not bored of it,theres a lot to discover like new routes,ways,etc.I honestly do love that game
@John Brophy I enjoyed the story, a sequel would’ve done justice to Arno as a character imo but we all know that won’t happen.
@John Brophy I think Connor is the worst
@John Brophy the way you describe is the best I heard of Connor.
But I have to disagree on Arno being worst then Connor. Arno also had potential. Especially after dead kings
@John Brophy dude, Alexios and Kassandra had kinda bad voice acting but hell they were good characters
Compared to the recent Assassin games Unity is a fucking masterpiece. I genuinely already thought it was a decent game when it was updated but playing Valhalla has made me appreciate it even more.
Still play it to this day trying to get 1billion F lol
@@whyleo- Just keep playing the steal the painting mission and you'll get there in no time. It spawns in right at the start sometimes so you just grab and finish.
@@Frenchy_47 also get the best stealth armour so it’s easier to replay the mission then get what you want
@@whyleo- still playing it I love the stealth in unity...unity and brotherhood are my favorite stealth out of all of the games for sure
Too bad the framerate and combat animations are so wack
The worst part is that Ubisoft even had a thought about removing one-hit assassinations
when ur low level in origins and try to assasinate it cant
@@carlmarcusbuenaventura5315 it trys to keep you from moving to all the areas and beating the game quickly. thats prob why its there.
@@thrownis4077 yeah i thinks thats reasonable for bosses but for high lvl soldiers whats the point of stealth then
Honestly I love that AC4 was designed so you can just stealth board a ship without starting the naval battle, and slowly go around stabbing and shooting everyone on board until you're able to go back and capture the ship with a single cannonball. It was painfully slow, yes, but it was an option if you thought your Jackdaw was too underequipped to handle the ship in front of you.
I snagged a Level 60 Man o' War in the earlygame that way, and it was incredibly satisfying, but it also took me like half an hour so I wouldn't begin to assume that I was intended to do that. And I wouldn't mind seeing more of that kind of thing again. Endgame-difficulty content being surmountable with enough patience and dedication, I mean. Overcoming giants is thrilling in its own right, and not something often possible in level-based RPG systems with scaling stats.
in settings u can turn in one hit assassinations. so no matter who it is it will only take one strike for a stealth assassination
Unity is seriously slept on. After the patches it’s a great game. I can’t wait to play at 60 FPS on the series x. I just wish they would’ve kept Arno as a character and continue to develop him after the dead kings DLC for the next few games. AC would still be top tier if they would’ve expanded on his story
Unity sucks.
...but It is also my favorite game in the series.
It had all the right ideas, had the right setting, it was going in the right direction
It was just poorly executed on different levels.
AC Unity should have been perfected.
No game has been more true to AC 1's legacy than Unity.
"unity sucks"
"it's my favorite game"
truest shit
Damn right. Same with ac3.
Unity and Ac3 got so much hate from fans no wonder ubisoft went sideways and tried find new fans with completely new type of games.
It's our own fault. We had something good and imagine if unity got 3 games like Ac2 it would have been on another level
I like the gameplay but I just forced myself to finish it and didn't enjoy it much because the story is so cheesy and doesn't even make sense s lot of times, like how he can see the memories of his victims.
@@abbytakano3340
Ya Unity has the worst story and protagonist in the series by far (up to Syndicate).
Remember when ac focused on stealth
And it still does. If you argue stealth is optional now, then so was it in the previous games, unless it forces you by desynchornising you if detected
@@ajayavsm7476 Yes stealth in Assassin's Creed has always been an option but in the first game, Social Stealth was the way the devs intented it to be played and it was supposed to be the main selling point of AC1. But many people didn't understand this and decided to always use combat and they hated AC1. You get a FAR better experience playing AC1 if you use social stealth and try to hide and escape from guards rather than fighting them.
@@ajayavsm7476 The new games doesn't do that, sure stealth is still an option but it's very limited and the game aren't advertised for being about social stealth.
@@ajayavsm7476 One more thing. Many people criticised the old AC games for their combat being slow and button mashy, it was done that on purpose so the player could use social stealth more often and in AC2 they decided to give Ezio a huge arsenal of tools that would make combat faster and stealth sections much more complex.
@@ajayavsm7476 even if it is somewhat optional, Valhalla wasn’t even advertised as a stealth game. Ubi just wanted to make a fantasy Viking game with AC elements sprinkled on it
We all know it's unity.
Yes
And syndicate cause in gameplay they are basically the same game
@@idagergely6235 hehe no 😀
@@mascastro4529 but why nooot both ?
@@idagergely6235 syndicate was pretty bad but yes both
My biggest problem with the early game’s stealth systems is how when you rush an enemy and assassinate them, their detection meter will fill and you’ll be detected and gain notoriety even though they died a second after.
Yup, I'm replaying AC Trilogy Ezio's Story right now and that's one of the things I hate
The detection meter thing only happens in AC2 because the detection system in that game is bugged, and rushing an archer in the Ezio Trilogy will get the guard to turn around, so I recommend you walk and assassinate. I fully agree with the notorriety thing though, I love the classic AC games but the notoriety is SO annoying and always triggers my OCD.
@@fredster594 I remember the older games had gear that would permanently keep your notoriety down
@@SuperSteph5 Yeah but there is ONE problem. In AC2 you had to progress through the game to unlock those items you unlocked the Medici cape which permanently keep your notoriety down in Florence and San gimignano and by the time you unlock the cape the Medici chapter is already completed, so you're most likely never going to use it.
Same thing with the Venetian cape you unlock it after the Venice chapter.
Now you could argue that you may use these items during free roam, but remember AC2 is a very story driven game.
In Brotherhood you only have one city and you unlock the Auditore cape by fully 100% renovating Rome which again you most likely won't use for the majority of your playthrough since it takes alot of time.
Well... I have a similar problem with the newer games especially Valhalla. Every time I try to stealth and kill someone a enemy on the other side of the map spots me and no no no you can forget to lose the enemies again to start stealthing again. Not until every enemy in range is dead you can stealth again. And that happened every time I tried to stealth in Valhalla...
Unity 100% for me, I loved how you could actually cover behind walls and all of the gadgets like smoke bombs made stealth so much better.
Any historical proof for the use of smoke bombs?
@@cezarstefanseghjucan Any historical proof for assassins in hoods using parkour being able to take on multiple armed targets in a world with magic? your a moron
@@cezarstefanseghjucan There was no historical proof for Ezio & Altair to use hidden guns either
Assassins have always had more advanced tech that they hid from public knowledge.
You could hide behind walls since AC3 as a standalone feature and wait behind the wall and immediately assassinate since AC1. Congratulations, smoke bpmbs existed since AC2
@@cezarstefanseghjucan my ass.
No literally I farted and they started dropping like flies because I had beans before going on the mission. WANAN know why I am british that’s why beans
I enjoyed Syndicate's stealth system the most. And the addition of the line launcher made it even more smoother than ever.
After air assassinating an enemy, you could line launch above and disappear in a heartbeat like a nocturnal creature of the night.
Assassin's Creed Syndicate is the only AC game that made me truly feel like an "assassin". Plus that Jack The Ripper DLC, icing on the cake.
u can be batman and its awesome
The stealth skills were the most satisfying. The only game that perfected it in my opinion, every scenario had a different anaimation. Unity was close but it felt kind of underwhelming to just play the default kill when crouching and they werent as aggresive as syndicate.
Unity is the only AC game i keep going back to so i can get that assassins feeling.
Glad I'm not the only one...
I'm in my 11th playthrough in unity and still love it
Me too
I’ve played through the game so many times and I still find new things to do
I agree, Unity has one of the best feeling being an assassin than the others.
@@yathishbl3757 do you delete your save file every time you play the game
Why unity is good,
The first assasins creed that has crouching button
Unity let you use 2 damn ultility
Unity got damn smooth ass parkour
And there is crowd of people everywhere
Kind of a good combat(imo)
And beautiful settings
Unity story kinda meh
Also fuck bishop
that makes blending perfect in crowds and assassinating in a crowded are makes it feel more real.
Why Unity was bad:
-Story was boring and dumb
-Ai is dumb making stealth so easy (worst in the series)
-Combat system is unbalanced
-Super Glitchy even after patches
-Crowds everywhere reduse your need to strategize
-Boring and Ugly map design
@@mynamedoesntfi--6161 if only they gave it more time to polish it, plus the combat system is good unlike odyssey, which is like GOW, and about the stealth, they should have made the npc's more sensitive to the environment. and the crowds in the city is perfect, you only strategize when it is an indoors mission.
@@thesimpledude186 the combat in odyssey is great if you upgrade your warrior damage and you need to think of when to strike or parry or dodge but unity is only parry and hit it is dumb and boring and strategizing is needed to know what to do but unity is just walk through a crowd and stab the guy and it is to simple and easy, the entire stealth is boring and easy as hell
@@mynamedoesntfi--6161 bruh, it's assassins, not a fight of some weird god like powered warriors
ACU was the best of the old AC. The stealth mechanics and parkour, the densely populated streets of Paris that really made you feel like a blade in the crowd, the setting of the game itself really made you feel like an assassin. Too bad we won't get another game like that anymore.
look unity is a great game but in my opinion the Ezio trilogy hits different
@Nathanyl Baker omg i wish ubisoft would see your comment
Unity is not one of the old games. It is only not in the reboot. An Unity is so damn Shit the only thing the protagonist can do is jump 20 meters. And the graphics are only good. System, concept, settings all is shit
@Nathanyl Baker?
@@ArgyrhsPap yeah
Man, the Unity sandbox mission design was brilliant, so fun to do trying to work out the best way for you to complete the assassination. Felt so cool sneaking into a large Parisian mansion and finding a way to get to your target. This is pure and simply what Assassin's Creed should be and I'm sad we haven't had more gameplay like this.
You could do all that in other ACs. Its just marked with the opportunity icon
As much as I love the new AC games, I do hope that in the future they can strike a balance between stealth and combat. Even if Valhalla's stealth was bad, the fact that they attempt to bring back stealth at all is a step in the right direction.
Well they did in mirage probaly
Finally someone who realized how good Syndicate stealth was...
YES it‘s still my fav. But also because I love Victorian London as a Holmes Fan and Evie and Jacob are great!
@@sensoeirensen yes
Stealth is the best, but story kinda sucks tho
@John Browning Short version: Syndicate is wasted potential considering how Unity was a really good foundation to actually innovating the series
Long version below:
Personally see it as wasted potential and a slap in the face to the idea of improving on the dumpster fire of a release Unity had, as well as it's incredible potential. That engine could've been the key to the best we'd see of AC. Sadly they followed up with something mediocre and unfulfilled potential, with plenty of bad design choices
- The Grappling Hook; Ubisoft made the foundation of the most fluid and smooth parkour system ever seen in Unity, and what do they do? Introduce a grappling hook that makes that entire system obsolete. I've heard people saying that it's needed because of how tall and far apart the buildings are in London. Then... why set the game there in the first place? Why set your game in a location where one of your most core features is useless? Paris was perfect for the parkour system; vast and tightly packed with roofs, ledges, clotheslines, balconies, trees, and buildings to run and climb over. Why put the game in a location where it's the exact opposite of that? Truly ironic, given how London is the capital of Parkour in real life
- Combat system; Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Syndicate's combat far more than Unity. But it just gets so ridiculous and unrealistic. Enemies just stand there slouched, waiting for you to finish them off. This is especially annoying to watch in the triple/quad kills. Enemies make no effort to even defend themselves, they don't fight for their lives like they did in the dual kills of AC3/4. It's really baffling how Ubisoft fucks up things they've done right in the past
- Story; Jacob fucks something up, Evie fixes his fuck ups. That's the story, basically. Nothing compelling, no exploration of deeper themes, no stakes for us to care about
This game improves a lot of things like the cover system, the ranged weapons, the combat overall, and downgrades on other things like the customization, tools, and the beginning of level gates. Not a bad game by any means, but far too average to like
Are kidding me, syndicate is ass brother hood is the best game but,hell no syndicate is ass
Your spot on too with Syndicate mate I just finished it last night. The blackbox missions are the best part of the game. They definitely took mission design with stealth a lot more seriously than it’s narrative. Syndicate also added the kidnap mechanic which was a great new form of stealth when it worked.
Honestly although I despise the game as a whole it's hard to deny the stealth is satisfying
@@scarabyt that’s fair enough. I for one loved the satirical take. It’s a good break from the traditional more serious tone of AC.
I never realized how bad Valhalla's stealth was. I realize that now. I didn't think it was at first. Also, I agree with you on Unity being the best
It’s not bad at all....social stealth works perfectly in this game....and you can crouch with a button input....
Hm from the new games is valhalla in stealth strong , ok on pc work that game not really, only console.
For me odyssey...is a real challenge
@@mattraffle4847 Social stealth works for you? The NPC's would be fucked up when I tried it
@@zicuvalentin2251 Odyessey had no stealth options
I think syndicate is above unity since you have a stealth ring, you can whistle, carry bodies, get invisible, and kidnap, not to mention that you can use your own zipline to create stealthy paths
Can't ever forget the experience of playing AC2 and the title showing up in the sky after a parkour race with the most epic background score playing in the background. AC2 was a game changer for me.
AC2 was one of my first Xbox 360 games I ever played. Shit looked like real life at the time. It will always be my favorite AC game.
@@TheGhostLad1 I had the same experience as you, it was way ahead of its time
I love my memories with my friends together in unity smokiung a complete room and taking the guards out silently
Me too, on the heists
Me too bro oh wait I don’t have any friends
@@donaldyeeter9842 same, but soon i have unity
But btw are you german?
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Just gotta love having your assassin appearing out of nowhere to kill your target in brotherhood
Yep, don’t forget revelations
Pretty good ranking overall. I only disagree with two things:
1) I would put Valhalla below Odyssey because even though Odyssey doesn’t respect your time with the statted stealth, if you do grind and get a good build, you can actually do stealth properly. With Valhalla, there is nothing you can do to make that stealth system work. It’s just truly rotten to the core.
2) Origins stealth below AC1, 2, and 3 seems wrong to me. The stealth mechanics are significantly more intuitive and expressive than what any of those games offer, even if it doesn’t have social stealth. The only real issue with the system is its reliance on stats, but even that is mostly negligible if you stay in areas that aren’t too high of a level for you.
Other than those, though, I can’t disagree too much on anything. Solid video.
That all makes complete sense, with Origins, it purely falls behind those 3 because of the lack of social stealth, as for Valhalla and Odyssey, at this point their near interchangeable, cheers for the support gamer
Lol imagine having to grind and create a build just to use your preferred playstyle. Glad it’s not as prevalent in origins and Valhalla at least
@@ryanc3609 oh yea, it’s horrid. It shows complete disrespect for the player’s time. But at least it’s possible to achieve if you’re that desperate. There’s nothing you can do like that for Valhalla.
@@ryanc3609 i didnt even Grind a long time (1½ hours ofc i already finished the game so i had enough money to go to the smith) for my 100% krit stealth build (so i can Basicly oneshot every enemy) and i only can say if you use your abilites good the stealth is really flowing what i really enjoy. Your pearks really have impact Not like valhalla where you get 2% more fire resistence with a Rune :)
@@melvinnaumann6570 in Valhalla you can choose to guarantee stealth kill, so u don't have to build ur gear into assassin one
I think that Syndicate truly mastered the stealth aspects of the game.
i agree but the crowds were to small imo and the roads to wide.
Yes
No one stealths in syndicate because the combat was to ez
@@kemanb2739 How easy the combat is doesn't subtract from the quality of stealth. And it depends on the player's style. I'm always going full stealth and let enemies kill me the moment I get noticed. I prefer to think in games rather than mash buttons. And as far as I'm aware, Syndicate's stealth system was was the most fun and most giving.
@@kemanb2739 woah I could never get used to syndicates combat. Usually in most ac games when and enemy is going to attack it gives you a decently long warning. But in syndicate the enemy's health bar flashes for a split second
Man, Syndicate is my favorite game in the series and the stealth freedom it gave us was a big improvement on Unity in my opinion. This stealth is the style I desperately wish the series would return to.
Agree it‘s also my fav AC by far!
Syndicate and Black Flag ar my favs. Both are amazing even though black flag's stealth wasn't that good.
@@AntonVladimirovic the only good thing about Bf that was good for me was the narrative. The rest felt hollow
I think that the story sucks, but still the gameplay is somehow soo smooth and it's basically the enhanced unity system with some minor changes. I think that a mix between those two would be the perfect stealth game that assassin's creed fans want. As well as the scenario of both of them which explain the density of people (even though syndicate has a lot less)
out of the old games, i loved syndicate a lot. hated black flag and only finished it bc my mom grounded me
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i liked the stealth in origins, it felt more active then just throwing out abilities/consumables and hiding in bushes
i like it i just wish there was social stealth
ah yes, unity. where you get the best stealth and you have to actually plan the kill but can't hide bodies or whistle
Cherry bombs work as whistling and not hiding bodies makes it easier to clear areas as guards are going astray and wander off alone.
To be fair, a lot of people can't whistle. Not naming names, but they exist.
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@@kyaryi1 I mean leaving bodies exposed was always a perfectly workable strategy before Unity, and very useful at that, but removing the ability to hide bodies at all feels quite back-asswards.
But yeah I can't whistle either.
I remember the tailing missions in balck flag, with a godamn ship no less
Its been like 6 years since I played Black Flag, but this comment made my day, Thanks! haha
Horrible mission design still to this day.
Black Flag is one of the best AC games. Imagine if it got remade
Don't get me started on tailing missions! AAAAAAAAAAAAA!
For a guy who wasn't even an assassin Edward sure tailed people to kill/rob them WAY too often...and I think that bothers everyone, especially since most of the time you just followed them through walls or from the roofs with eagle vision line of sight be damned.
Great character arc though, but if I were to remake the game I'd definitely change up the mission content.
You're pretty brave for putting Syndicate up that high but I agree, it's really underrated. The tools the game gives you in combination with the level design allow you to solve encounters in a miriad of ways, and the AI is competent enough to be challenging but not frustrating
It's slightly improved over unity with auto cover. Unity just had better world, design imo.
Basically I love syndicate and unity it's one of my favorites assassin's Creed games ever in my life and I am agreed with your list
I must say that I agree with you on Unity. The game is the only one that encouraged me to play as an assassin, and the stealth was extremely fun. The other games I played were either too easy, or pushing me into combat.
Watching this makes me realize how much I miss the blackbox from syndicate and unity
Your analysis of different games is astounding and you sir have gained a new subscriber for your perfectly laid out video with evidence to back up your claims
This would Exectly be my list
As much as I love AC Unity, I found myself enjoying the stealth in AC Origins much more, to my own surprise. I can smoothly clear out entire military camps and forts with no detection, and it feels so good. There are so many entry points, all the guards stay marked once you mark them, so you don't have to use eagle vision every 10 seconds to make sure if anyone's around the corner.
I could not enjoy Unities stealth at all. It felt like guard detection was inconsistent and certain tools like the noise bomb and phantom blade felt glitchy. I would clearly throw it in a guards line of site or near a guard and nothing happens. The phantom blade often glitched up and would not work.
Excellent video. I agree with most of what has been said. Kudos to you for giving your true opinion on the series despite knowing some people may not like it.
Gonna be real, I never felt any stealth on the Ezio games, had more enjoyment with the stealth in Origins-Valhalla. Odyssey stealth was so satisfying to me, the bit of infiltrating fortresses and getting out undetected. Unity reigns on top though.
I really wish the city would go on full alert kinda like AC1 after assassinating a main plot character
I know what you mean, Oddessey, Valhalla and Origin, I sneak in and out of camps, forts etc. without being detected while having cleared the whole place.
I don’t really know what you’re talking about with Odyssey. I’ve cleared countless forts in that game with no detections and like 90% one-hit assassinations.
Stealth in that game is really satisfying. Shallow, but fun. To see the enemy health bar changed to red result in an instant kill with a cool weighty animation.
I think what he meant is not saying that Odyssey "doesn't have stealth" but it's more like it pushes you or rather I should say encourage you to go HnS on all enemies, which would make sense, since they are kinda trying to go in that direction with AC, so it's not completely a fault, it's just how the game was made, if you like stealth you will not be super happy as when you played Unity, if you don't like stealth, you'll like the new ACs.
I agree. I think really the only issue some people have with Odyssey's stealth is the fact you have to get some upgrades before it starts to work. Once you've spent a little bit of time in the game and spent the points to make your character a stealthy assassin, it works fantastically.
So u become so strong in odyssey...anyway is the best
Looks like other persons played Odyssey for just a couple of hours and left it when bored.
They didn't even get to the part where you can use "shadow of nyx" + pligrim set combo, along will extra passive skill that increases critical assassination chance and damage.
Most of the cultist I killed where assassinated 1 hit (no need to use hero strike or rush assassination when failed to 1 hit). The ones I didnt were the ones you are required to fight.
Whilst yes, Odyssey focused more on combat than the other games, a lot of what Scarab just said about this is just... not true.
I stealthed Odyssey. Like, the entire game. I didn't like it's combat and I was bad at it, so I focused entirely on stealth.
You can one hit assassinate every non-boss enemy in the game with the exception of Polemarchs. Use Critical Assasination - it does a LOT fo damage, and with the Stealth Master perk it does even more at night time. Even if that doesn't immediately kill someone, you can follow up with a Hero strike and it's a 100% guaranteed kill. Like, every time.
There are absolutely ranged options. The Rush Assassination skill can be chained several times and has very good range. You can even chain between two high level enemies repeatedly for higher damage. Get a decent Hunter or Predator bow and you can one-shot headshot most enemies. You can do the same with the charged bow shot ability. I understand it's not ranged utility like a smoke bomb or berserker dart, but there ARE plenty of ranged options that allow for stealthy play.
The game's geography can still be used for stealth. It's no longer the 'hide in the crowd' of Unity and Syndicate, or the 'hit and run' of the American trilogy' or the 'ledges and haystacks' of the Ezio trilogy. It's the 'wild hunter' of the mythological trilogy. You drop down from rock faces above. You sneak around through vast swathes of reeds and bushes. You scale ancient monuments and climb through the doors above the guard's heads. You use Ikaros/Senu/Synin to scout ahead and plan your approach.
Yes, you have to spec into stealth, instead of it being immediately available. But seriously, it is THERE, it is accessible, and getting good at stealth in Odyssey is no different to becoming good at combat or becoming good at arrow usage. It's just different.
Now, that is completely separate from it's thematic departures from the other games, like the magic, monsters and cheapened Isu tech. I didn't like that part. But I did love Odyssey as it stood on it's own.
Malaka! You got all what's in my mind. No need to type long since you got it all.
Yes exactly! I love the stealth in the new games. At least in Origins and Odyssey because I did not played Valhalla yet but I will. Its great how you can approach a fort etc. with so much freedom and you can use the sourroundings and the geography like you said. Its so much fun to clear out an enemy fortress. The stealth feels like Metal Gear Solid 5 wich is my favourite game ever when it comes to stealth. Senu, Ikaros and Synin is are also a great addition in my opinion.
THANK YOU! So many people shit on Odyssey as "ohhh there's no stealth its all just hack-n-slash" like dude if you took the ten seconds to make an assassin's build and actually TRY to be stealthy instead of assuming the game will just do it for you then you'd have a great time. Honestly, I think full-stealthing a fort and clearing it out undetected is INFINITELY more satisfying in Odyssey than in any of the other games, just because of how much more difficult it is. Fantastic game, and I personally loved the magic and monsters, although I completely understand what a departure it is from the other AC games. Odyssey might not be an AC game but it sure as hell is a good game.
The combat was still shit
@@Batman-hb9dh Hmmm,
I dont think so, I really like it. After so many games with the parry/attack/parry/attack system Im glad that we have something that is refreshing and feels more dynamic. Also the powers are pretty cool in my opinion.
Unity's stealth would of been FANTASTIC with ONE added feature. Whistling. This year I replayed it start to finish and it is the ONE mechanic that it needed
I love the fact that Unity gets so much love now. I was fortunate enough not to experience that many glitches on release, hence why it’s always been in my top 3 AC. The graphics are still as good as any of the modern ac games as well.
I would say Origins stealth is way better than many other games of the series
If you want to fix the "problem" of accidentally attacking instead of assassinating enemies in Valhalla you can 1. Wait till the "assassinate" prompt comes up (the assassinate button and the amount of damage you will do) or 2. Change the assassinate button so that it's not the same as the attack button, no hate at all, just a helpful suggestion :)
Yeah after about 10 hours I did this and it was completely fine. My point with that clip was that it's even a possibility. Every other game in the series separate assassinations from attacks, preventing that from happening, but because Valhalla is built purely to be an 'epic viking raider', there's no safety in place to prevent it. The fact that the player has to actively change the settings just for the system to work is a problem in itself
@@scarabyt I just realized that this happened on consoles. I played on PC, and it's default set for F, which is purely reserved for assassinations
I have played Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla in stealth when they ask so much that I end the game with 2000 stealth kills done during the entire campaign, do not tell me that it is a Viking game that
The campaign is like 70 hours. And the world is huge. Getting stealth kills is not hard. But there is a severe lack of options for stealth to the point where the crouch button is the most you can do
Valhalla had more than both of those games for stealth but it still lacks.
@@khaoss4024 The times in which you must play stealth is very noticeable and it is on several occasions, valhalla is a 50/50 stealth both in combat but I opted more for stealth and took more casualties in this
I had 3k stealth kills and 10k normal ones. stealth was soooo bad it literally made me go to an asylum
2:37 to get around that problem of attacking when you want to assassinate in valhalla, simply change assassinate to the Y/triangle button instead of R1, you’ll never accidentally attack an assassination target again.
Holy shit man I really miss classic AC. Seeing that Unity footage brings me back. The animations are so fucking smooth. The parkour is amazing. Combat was fun too, no bullet sponge enemies. And the graphics still hold up to this day.
You are the best Assassins Creed youtuber
All I've ever wanted tbh, bringing a tear to my eye
Agree
@@scarabyt
Honestly i agree. Alot of other channels wouldve toxicly shat on games like Odyssey. It nice to see someone who doesn't like Odyssey stealth and isnt toxic about it.
I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed Unity when I played through it again last year. Totally agree.
Unity and Syndicate, after Syndicate the stealth system got fucked.
I can't believe that assassin Creed unity got first place it was my favorite assassin Creed game i still have it☺️☺️
To me Unity definitely has one of the best sneaking and parkour elements in the series, the routes of the soldiers in the guarded areas are perfectly designed with more fun and excitement of infiltration than other AC games, you feel more like an assassin with the protagonist's abilities being constrained realistically, soldiers can easily kill you when they chase you down, but unfortunately, subsequent Assassin's Creed did not inherit Unity's sneaking and parkour mechanics, abandoned the creed of being an assassin
Valhalla stealth even with he’s reasons is in the top 5 for me, the way you have to be careful in the towns and it makes sense for the guards to spot you easier, the AI has always been too stupid, sometimes even too slow to notice you, and the fact that if you jump from somewhere high or move to fast, the guards will notice that and check there, i just love the stealth
I recently went back and started playing through ac series from the first game. Its amazing to see how much the gameplay has steered away from actually being an assassin. The last 3 games being case in point, but especially Valhalla. it really needs to return to a more stealth orientated approach, rather than just killing everybody in sight lol
When we all realise how good unity is now...
I loved the game since it came out it’s one of my favourite ac beside black flag ngl
I felt like out of all the recent AC games unity had the most potential but Ubi literally ruined it if only they had more time to fix glitches improve the story and refine the gameplay mechanics it could have been a great AC game
The combat is a bit off
@@reverseflash03 nah
I agree with your choice for top. Unity was an amazing stealth game which is why it was one of my favorites.
It’s always fun to see the disparity in experiences with Unity. Mine was terribly buggy. Other people didn’t have that. I’m envious of your experience, as the game had a lot going for it.
I have to disagree with Odyssey. At its core it’s an rpg, which means everything depends on how you spec. I got Kassandra to a 96% crit chance so all I had to make sure of was their health fell by half in an assassination. It’s actually really easy to clear whole areas by stealth and I ended up handicapping myself by not using the invisibility option less than half way through because things were too easy.
@@nirmithra1 Exactly! And for the people complaining about the Isu abilities, there's literally a gear perk that gives a damage boost at the cost of their use.
@@madcat1865 also others forgot that you can switch equipped sets while not on conflict (i used pilgrim set when doing assassination, then change to a warrior set when doing battles).
How i wish you change passive abilities fast (since you can only do reset and manually learn the skills you need).
@@Incognito_1412 Honestly, I took the video as a grain of salt when he said that Odyssey didn't have any stealth. Then he went on about Valhalla that its stealth mechanics weren't implemented correctly when he totally misses the target at 2:55, because he isn't close enough to the target. After that, he complains about the detection system in Valhalla, but this system has been the most realistic of any other game in the series. You can't just hide again as if nothing happened in real life either, a harder difficulty doesn't mean that it's worse. Valhalla even gives players the option to choose their own stealth difficulty and to enable one-hit assassinations so players don't have to invest in a stealth build.
@@LucassenR all the ac channels don't even try to spec into the assassin branch. They play and expect the same easy one-shots from the old games, then complains the stealth is broken while they kill someone in plain sight.
Dude his just ranking the stealth and oddssey stealth is not very good when compared to the other ac games
Unity gives you one of the best parkour moves, multiple assassins working together like brotherhood, stealth u get it here, awesome storyline....no arguing
One of the AC hills I will die on is that Unity is one of the best games in the franchise, rivalling Ezio in my eyes. In so many ways this game was an incredible next gen AC including stealth it absolutely deserves the top spot in the franchise in this regard, we can finally crouch for a start!
Also yes it goes without saying that the RPG AC are the worst in many respects especially stealth, I would barely distinguish between them
I enjoy unity but protaganist, story and villain are extremely weak whereas Ezio and his story is a masterpiece.
@@sneezystudios5856 imo people just set themselves up for disappointment when comparing a later installment to the highly regarded past installment. It’s like comparing borderlands 2 to 3, of course the new protagonists, story, and villain won’t top the past one.
Shay was sooo Stealthy, He's not even seen on Unity walk by while Arno and Elise were talking.
A very good opinion indeed. I wholeheartedly agree.
Syndicates one of my top favorites bc its so modern and do well though I don't like how you have to be crouched to put the hood on its oh welp everything was fun but the cartoon fighting was alright too
I been waiting for this all day let’s go Joe
The stealth is one of the main resons why Unity is my favorite AC game.
You can very well play an assassin or a hunter-assassin hybrid in AC Odyssey. There's an ability that makes you invisible, and the Spear of Leonidas has the same purpose as the hidden blade plus the ability to assassinate targets from afar.
Thank you someone had to say it
Invisibility. Great stealth.
No way you just said the invisibility is good. That is retarded
Glad someone brought this up. Thank you
I played odessey with complete stealth build and oh boy the stealth was so satisfying in that game I was able to oneshot any enemy even 1 or 2 level above me though the game doesnt feel like ac game it does give you option to play how you want to play
Pushing the stealth in assassins creed unity
Wdym AC Unity’s stealth was spot on
@@beowulf1658 Out of the loop bro, you don't get the joke
@@princessmyprincess4284 I have failed
Unity definitely isn’t the best game but you have to admit it does have an amazing stealth system (when it’s working).
It's a great game stfu. Everyone is just copy and pasting their opinion from their favorite shitty youtubers in 2014. actually fucking play it it's amazing.
@@connorbanepoop i agree it is really good it’s just not the best in the series in my opinion (but i still love it)
@@connorbanepoop You want a personal opinion, AC was fun when it worked, but from playing the game it was littered with lots of glitches, some of which were game breaking, stealth added some cool features but was buggy af, parkour was decent but half the time it didn’t work, combat was fun tho
Gotta say, I actually really hate Unity stealth.
You make one minor mistake, and all of the rest of your efforts for that mission is wasted effort, as every guard in a 3 mile radius suddenly gains Superman hearing and storms your location.
It may be superficially challenging, but I never had fun with it. Most of the late game missions just ends with spamming smoke bombs and heavy attacks, after a single guy spotting your left ass cheek in the doorway and summons all his 73 friends.
I'll take the average half-steath, half-combat approach that AC usually sticks with, any day of the week
Air assassinate a guy and take down a few others in a sword fight.
Black Flag will always be my all time favorite, yet AC brotherhood is what got me into the whole AC series
The stealth in Unity is just so good like omg
Other than AC1 being below AC2, I agree with this list.
I agree AC1's stealth despite being simple is extremely fun to use and master and is in my opinion the most immersive and definitve way of playing AC1.
AC2's stealth system is by no means bad but the detection system is so broken for that game, and AC2's feels like it's less about social stealth and more about hiding.
I dont like AC 2 but i was wondering why people where saying AC 1 was better but then i remembered that sometimes detection means desynch
2:35 you did that way too soon. Don’t blame the game for that.
At this point., I just assume that he sucks at doing stealth. Blaming the stealth system in certain series for being impatient.
I recently got back into the series after my last game being AC3 and I’m currently at origins. I’m sure it’s a common thing to say but I’m already really missing the earlier games
The memories on unity playing co - op missions w my bro online, starting off stealthy, then ending with guns blazing, and smoke bombs raining
I would love to see a unity stealth style game. It was fun. Same for Syndicate. That's why I feel disappointed with last 3 RPG AC games
I think unity may have had an absence amount of bugs and still does, and the story might now have been the most polished it was still insanely fun, the freedom to tackle it how you saw fit was amazing, giving you options to focus on improving your ability to take damage, deal damage, sneak, or kill from a range and utilize gadgets, the combat was challenging especially early on but fun and it felt like the farther you got you made genuine progress, and could easily master your play style by the end, it was so ahead of its time, and I would love to see Ubisoft try something like what they did with unity again
You should rank the AC title reveals
AC II & Unity are my favourite title drops.
@@splinterborn Exactly the same with me dude 👌
NO. HE MUSTN'T DO THAT. WHAT A SHITTY RANKING. POOR AC
Bro u deserve more
This is pretty much also true for characters, Altair, Ezio, Arno, Edward Kenway and the Frye siblings are memorable, and except for Altair and Ezio, who were masters, were worthy of being considered assassins.
Also, I wish we could get remastered versions of Altair and Ezio games with Unity's scale and mechanics through its later developed game engine
unity did have a well thought out stealth system but in terms of origins, odyssey, and Valhalla I have played all three and for the most part have been able to go full stealth no detection
11. Assassin’s Creed Odyssey 0:58
10. Assassin’s Creed Valhalla 2:14
9. Assassin’s Creed Origins 4:30
8. Assassin’s Creed III 5:48
7. Assassin’s Creed 7:05
6. Assassin’s Creed II 8:23
5. Assassin’s Creed IV + Rogue 9:16
4. Assassin’s Creed Revelations 10:28
3. Assassin’s Creed Syndicate 11:34
2. Assassin’s Creed Brotherhood 13:05
1. Assassin’s Creed Unity 14:16
Thank you ❤️
Let's go
Origins’ stealth for me is actually my favorite and the best of the franchise because it’s the one where I’m best at and for me, it’s just the one that works the best which means that it’s the most functioning but that’s just my opinion tho and I know that I’m biased as fuck with that statement. 😂
It's decent and not that punishing. Sure, no more hiding in the crowd bs, but at least we can hide in the bush undetected. If only the hidden blade didn't have that level upgrade bullshit, Origins would be one of the best AC games ever released.
I am playing Odyssey right now, and I like how you have to option to play assassin, but you arent forced to.
@@thedarkestlight4563 Now you know why AC fans hate it.
To be honest, I have to agree in the most part. AC Unity was a masterpiece of stealth, I have never felt so much as an assassin as in this game. Additionaly to the system, you had different clothings which could effect how easy you were to spot, which was great. Your customization made sense. If you wanted more stealth you could become basically invisible in plain sight, but upon detecting you would be screwed in comparisson to fight oriented Arno. Which was also great
I got into unity here recently and I honestly love it after playing through 3 and then the newer rpg trilogy it feels like a real assassins creed game
Feels like I'm the only one who really liked Origins
Same. Such an incredible game that seems to be overlooked constantly. Pains me to see it grouped with Odyssey and Valhalla simply due to sharing an RPG format.
@@liquidmercury433 Same, I genuinely want to make a massive video explaining why I love it so much
same
As much as I love Unity the stealth system is completely broken. The bombs that are supposed to lure guards don’t do anything at all, the guards just look at them. Smoke bombs don’t work because guards can literally see through them, a few days ago I even had some random guard that was supposed to be stunned by the smoke bomb detect me, you can’t whistle in this game, the phantom blade is very limited and don’t even insta kill most of the time, and sometimes I even randomly get detected by guards that are literally on the opposite side of the world, even when there’s literally no one around me. Unity’s stealth is hot garbage, you should have put Syndicate on 1 because these things all work in that game.
I see big caps
@@Kingvoid213 just because you haven’t had these issues doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Now fuck off.
Am I the only one who actually enjoyed odyssey’s and mainly origin’s stealth systems more than any pre unity ac game ?
I enjoyed the games, but they don't have stealth. Moreover, it lost its main point, as there are so many enemies you simply cannot assassinate that open combat becomes the only option.
I’ve been replaying the ac games from the beginning, and I was super surprised at how good the stealth is in the ezio trilogy
I play odyssey stealthily all the time and can kill big health enemies in one hit all the time? Obviously this guy doesn't know how to make a stealth build
Odyssey masterpiece
It's not about odyssey having viable stealth but it's about how it compares to any other game in the series in regards to stealth, which is, very badly. You can be stealthy in odyssey, there is stealth, it's just worse than all other ac games.
If you want to one hit assassinate in Odyssey you have to focus on building your character to do just that by equipping the right gear to maximize assassin damage. One of the reasons why I love Odyssey lol
Bruh who like to grind just to have a proper stealth 😂 get out oddssey fan
@@kingmustard1586 You should get out, brat!
@@kingmustard1586 Do 50 side quests just to increase assassin damage by 2% lmao
Yea none of that should be required for an AC game
@@gamerhex7335 Valhalla has an always one hit assassination setting. I'm sure you love that.
Love your videos man! Aside from the relentless Odyssey bashing they’re high quality. I would recommend playing Odyssey again and do more of the side quests some of them are pretty interesting. Don’t look at it so much as an AC game but just play the game for what it is . Try and use stealth as much as possible and build your assassin damage up as much as possible, trust me it makes the game feel much better and stealth becomes a HUGE part of it.
Lmao
Don't look at *Assassin's creed* Odyssey as an assasins creed game
@@sukitron5415 If they’re going to use the name to market a shitty action RPG and ruin the reputation of the franchise in the process, I’m damn well going to judge it for being an Assassin’s Creed game
Unity was my first ac and i agree so far its been my favorite one.
Unity’s multiplayer, assassination opportunities, and crouch button make it my fav ac game
Unity has the best gameplay
Imagine ac 1 and ezios trilogy with as uníty visuals , parkour and stealth
We can only dream.
I respectfully disagree. Unity's gameplay has alot of input lag and the FPS is just terrible due to how many NPC's there are and for the graphics alone. The parkour while looks really fucking cool and cinematic, plays like ass and doesn't have as much control as AC1-Revelations or even the Kenway Saga for that matter.
@@fredster594 pc or console
@@fredster594 and you're wrong kenway saga had no verticality lol and noncontinuous
@@cybercery5271 I played both on console and PC and my experience on PC was better but not quite perfect. The Kenway saga parkour system is by no means perfect but atleast I could side and back eject from any wall in that game.