If I remember correctly, wasn't Neo twelve when he got to Troy? I know he trained to be a warrior from an early age, but that must be a pretty unpleasant experience still. Like imagine you're just twelve, you've been training all your life but you're still a kid, then they suddenly come to tell you that your father, who you never met, has died and you must go to avenge him. I feel kind of bad for him, just given the task to avenge a father he never met. I could even see him resenting Achilles for not being there and then being taken to avenge him.
I love how it started out epic then ended tragic. Though the end also raised the quote, “mercy to an enemy can not come at the cost of mercy for their victims.” It’s such a sad way to go.
I'm pretty sure it's meant to be the voice of Agamemon. In the original story, he was the leader of the Greek army and the one who chose Odysseus to chuck the baby off the Trojan wall as a "reward" of coming up with the idea for the Trojan Horse. Though, some tellings say it was a necessary sacrifice to return home to Greece. It was also very clear that the gods were against the Greeks in almost every way, Athena being the main exception because Odysseus was really smart, and she placed her bets on him.
@@sugargemstudios3361 It's meant to be Zeus. The eagle's cry, the thunder, the ethereal sounding voice, and the fact that (outside of Odysseus mentioning him during the briefing before the battle) Agamemnon isn't in the musical are give aways that it's Zeus.
I literally downloaded these lyric videos as MP3s onto my phone bc the og songs have been deleted everywhere and the remakes just don't sound the same to me :((
@@web-headsassemble9415 ohhh ok so basically the Illiad is the entirety of the Trojan War with the wooden horse and stuff and at the very end, Odysseus was told by Zeus that he needs to kill the baby, Astyanax, because Odysseus killed his father and when he grows up he will avenge him. Odysseus, unfortunately, kills Astyanax by dropping him from the wall of Troy. The Odyssey is Odysseus’ journey home after the war and EPIC is Jorge Rivera-Herrans’ rendition of the end of the Illiad and the entire Odyssey with a moral of “ruthlessness is mercy”. I hope this helps!
@@Only.one.braincellit seems you didn’t read the Iliad or the Oddysee either because Odysseus didn’t kill prince hector. Achilles killed the prince and “mistreated” the corpse as revenge for his friend Patroclus.
Greek and Roman Tragedy are purely timeless, the emotion seeps out of every pore of these songs good lord. The human experience has truly never changed, even if the extremes and situations have.
@@mutantsandmemes fr💀the troy saga got absolutely mauled and im ambivalent about the new cyclops saga but i still like the old one a bit better i wish they couldve been left up
If only those fkn producers gave Jay and everyone else the royalties cuz honestly? The original Troy and Cyclops Sagas are superior to the rerecorded ones. Like I love Jay and I understand his reasons but...the new ones just don't hit the same.
What if, hear me out, he takes the baby home, and while he grows up tell him bedtime stories about the war -"so basically you're the son of the prince of a city I fought in a war against, and when we were storming the place and I found you and decided to adopt you" While the kid is little, he would have no urge to avenge place he's never seen or a father he doesn't remember. As he grows up he will be okay with all of it because he was always okay with it and he won't get mad at his adopted dad when/if the gods tell him because he would already know. The gods would be pissed (which is never good) but unless they blackmail him or something I don't think they can get him to take revenge when he doesn't feel wronged
I mean, I think we should take the factor that the war started partially because of Odysseus. I'm pretty sure that would be enough to upset the kid, or man if Odysseus didn't tell him - most likely because "Your homeland and your biological family are gone because of me" would really mess a child up. Plus the possibility of a conflict with Telemachus, a la "I'm his actual son" versus "And who did he get to read bedtime stories to, Mr. Abandoned while daddy was at war?", also adding that Telemachus would inherit the throne. So at least he'd be upset and, if there came the typical Greek tragedy coincidence, I can see a series of events leading to people getting hurt.
The gods will interfere- they always do. That’s what Zeus was threatening. Think about how much damage the gods have already done in the war? They just like drama. They would lie and manipulate the boy to hate his father, even if his adoptive father has been honest with him. Would the gods lie or his adoptive father? Who has a greater motive to lie? At face value, it’s would seem more likely his adoptive father would lie to him than the gods.
@@tarniabook3076 Hi, could you explain why the war is partly Odysseus's fault? I've always been told the main (or at least a big) reason the war started was because of Helen, whose only relationship to Odysseus's is that she's Penelope's cousin. I'd really like to know more.
@@nxzxdxnxzxdx8087 When Helen was going to get married, there were many suitors. To avoid possible disputes, Odysseus suggested all suitors swear to protect Helen's marriage no matter who the husband were. It was because of that promise all those kings went to rescue Helen in the first place, so in a way, it was at least partially his fault.
@@tarniabook3076 But wouldn't they have rescued her anyway? A quick Google search told me she was married to Menelaus of Sparta before eloping (or being kidnapped?) with Paris of Troy. Menelaus is an important person, he would have gathered allies to rescue Helen regardless of the promise. Maybe the war wouldn't have been as important as it was but I think it would have happened anyway. PS: I am not trying to be rude or disregard what you said. If it seems that way I apologise, English isn't my first language
Don’t get me wrong, this song is absolutely amazing and the whole musical is an experience and a half… But the plot of this song confuses me? Like, Zeus comes down and tells Odysseus “Hey, man, I’m gonna do you a solid. Y’see that baby there? You need to kill that baby or else he’ll grow up and take revenge on you for this whole war.” And Odysseus makes the very reasonable offer of “Yo, what if we just take the baby, put him on some farm somewhere, and make sure he doesn’t know where he came from. Then he’d have no reason to kill me.” Then Goose-Fucker Zeus is all like “Nah, cause, see, if you do that, we’ll just _tell_ the baby all about you and what you’ve done.” Like….. Bro, why? Aren’t you on Odysseus’ side? Isn’t that the whole reason you’re warning him about this baby in the first place? If you’re not on his side, why tell him about the baby at all?
I take that to mean the gods aren’t on anyone’s side. They’ll do what’s most entertaining for themselves. It’s entertainment to watch Odysseus compromise his morals. If he refuses then more entertaining for them to tell the baby who killed his parents and have him hunt Odysseus down. They don’t care about any particular mortals (except MAYBE their demigod children).
To add on to the previous comment, from my understanding it is believed that the gods and goddesses took sides during the battle of troy. While Zeus was on his side, there were other gods who weren't, so they would make sure that when the baby grew up the ones who sided with Prince Hector, he would know what happened yk? I could be completely wrong though lol
@@kpoponbeet yeah a theme of the musical is how pleasing one god pisses off at least 7 others and how impossible it is for mortals to win in these sorts of conflicts
@@kpoponbeet Yeah, it'd perfectly possible for a god who was on the troyan side to show up once Hector's son is fully grown and give him the typical "avenge your homeland" quest.
Thank goodness the originals are still here. I don’t like the remake. I understand why the creators did it. I’m sorry it’s very unfortunate. But man, the org just hits diff.
wow seriously THIS is the version everybody says is so much better than the new one? Like, yeah, this is still brilliant and amazing, but the new one is just so much better, actually feels like it takes place with the heat of war
From my understanding this one was the initial release, but the producers weren't letting Jay (creator of the musical and voice of Odysseus) and the rest of the cast and crew have any of the money that was made off of the original Troy and Cyclops Saga. So Jay and everyone else rerecorded both the Troy and Cyclops Saga, thus why the one on Spotify sounds different. I'm very pissed at the producers who won't pay the Epic cast and crew cuz I prefer this version than the rerecorded one...
@@mutantsandmemes Yea thats BS. Kind of a shame because i like the soldiers lines in this version better. The new one sounds like two or three guys while this one sounds like everyone in the horse
The first part of the song is Firestar preparing the clans for the battle against bloodclan. When it's the fighting, it's cuts of all the awful things tigerstar has done. Then the last part is a starclan cat telling pinstar to kill tigerkit/star and him begging not to
ya know how pride is called a "sin"? welp!!! this is mankinds own fault, humanity is just a whimsical uselessness for useless ness for only who is to chose whom. but to only "have it all." (fame, glory, fun, and without consequence), I loath it.
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"The blood on your hands is something you won't lose, all you can choose is whose" that final line goes hard
FUN FACT! When Odysseus tells Neoptolemus "Avenge your father, kill the brothers of Hector" the father he mentions is Achilles
Hell yeah!
Very cool!
If I remember correctly, wasn't Neo twelve when he got to Troy? I know he trained to be a warrior from an early age, but that must be a pretty unpleasant experience still. Like imagine you're just twelve, you've been training all your life but you're still a kid, then they suddenly come to tell you that your father, who you never met, has died and you must go to avenge him. I feel kind of bad for him, just given the task to avenge a father he never met. I could even see him resenting Achilles for not being there and then being taken to avenge him.
@@tarniabook3076 Poor Neo..
@@tarniabook3076 wait Achilles was his father??? Was he adopted cause I heard Achilles was gay
“Guys, I’m telling you, the horse was singing!”
“Shut up Cassandra!”
“OH GUYS UH GUYS ITS OPENING”
@@CaSeYtImEBoY "Shut up Cassandra!"
😂
GUYS, THERES PEOPLE WITH WEAPONS
@@Loveingston “Shut up Cassandra! I'm sleeping!”
I love how it started out epic then ended tragic.
Though the end also raised the quote, “mercy to an enemy can not come at the cost of mercy for their victims.”
It’s such a sad way to go.
"But now we'll be the ones who slayy"
That line was just so soothing 😭
I cannot say it without laughing
Slayyyyy 💅🏻💅🏻
0:17 / 0:18
Material girl
“But now we’ll be the ones who ✨SLAY✨“
"A foe who won't run" yeah cuz it's a child who doesn't know what's going on 😭😭
FR
I can't get over Zeus's voice, impeccable singing
I'm pretty sure it's meant to be the voice of Agamemon.
In the original story, he was the leader of the Greek army and the one who chose Odysseus to chuck the baby off the Trojan wall as a "reward" of coming up with the idea for the Trojan Horse. Though, some tellings say it was a necessary sacrifice to return home to Greece.
It was also very clear that the gods were against the Greeks in almost every way, Athena being the main exception because Odysseus was really smart, and she placed her bets on him.
@@sugargemstudios3361 It's meant to be Zeus. The eagle's cry, the thunder, the ethereal sounding voice, and the fact that (outside of Odysseus mentioning him during the briefing before the battle) Agamemnon isn't in the musical are give aways that it's Zeus.
The person who sings as Zeus would make a great Phantom in Phantom Of The Opera
LUKE HOLT
Btw
Great singer
Thank you! I couldn't understand what Zeus was saying. As a non-native English speaker, I really appreciate this.
no worries!! i'm glad it was helpful 😊
Me fr 😭
I'm a native speaker of English but when Odysseus and Zeus sing at the same time I don't understand a word Zeus says
This is the only place I can find the OG version of this song😭😭
Sadly the original songs for the Troy and Cyclops saga has been deleted. there's always the remakes though.
I literally downloaded these lyric videos as MP3s onto my phone bc the og songs have been deleted everywhere and the remakes just don't sound the same to me :((
I get why Jay re-recorded the songs, but they definitely sound off, they just aren’t as good.
yea same 😭😭😭😭
@@blurp1945 the remakes are bad.
Odysseus’ singing when he’s begging to Zeus to not make him kill the baby had me trembling
Who is the baby? What does he do with him? Does he adopt him or something? Who is he in the second saga??
@@web-headsassemble9415 have you not read the Illiad or the Odyssey?
@@Only.one.braincell I just barely discovered this I don’t know much.
@@web-headsassemble9415 ohhh ok so basically the Illiad is the entirety of the Trojan War with the wooden horse and stuff and at the very end, Odysseus was told by Zeus that he needs to kill the baby, Astyanax, because Odysseus killed his father and when he grows up he will avenge him. Odysseus, unfortunately, kills Astyanax by dropping him from the wall of Troy. The Odyssey is Odysseus’ journey home after the war and EPIC is Jorge Rivera-Herrans’ rendition of the end of the Illiad and the entire Odyssey with a moral of “ruthlessness is mercy”. I hope this helps!
@@Only.one.braincellit seems you didn’t read the Iliad or the Oddysee either because Odysseus didn’t kill prince hector. Achilles killed the prince and “mistreated” the corpse as revenge for his friend Patroclus.
That harmony on the second ensemble "Penelope" hits hard
For real
"i don't think your ready." LITERALLY 😭🖐
Idk why but Diomedes sounds like diabetes to me XD every single time
"Its just an infant" is so sad.
I’m so glad someone else said this 😂
Yes! When I first listened to it I was so confused 😂
I'm glad I'm not the only one XD
Lol real
DIABETES WILL LEAD THE CHARGE😭🤣
Greek and Roman Tragedy are purely timeless, the emotion seeps out of every pore of these songs good lord. The human experience has truly never changed, even if the extremes and situations have.
ive been playing all five songs on repeat while studying
I imagine many people are coming to this video bc of the original troy and cyclops saga getting abolished rn💀
no fr im so sad💀💀💀the og horse and the infant is miles and miles better than the new one
I KNOW. Worst is I didn’t even buy them on iTunes yet besides Warrior of the mind. Is there anyway to get them from UA-cam on my apple music playlist?
came here to download them onto my computer lol
Literally. Like I love Jay, but my god the original albums are WAY BETTER than the rerecorded ones. I'm sorry, I just can't listen to the new ones...
@@mutantsandmemes fr💀the troy saga got absolutely mauled and im ambivalent about the new cyclops saga but i still like the old one a bit better i wish they couldve been left up
“It’s just an infant…
It’s just a boy…”
👁🗨
2:28 THAT MUSIC TRANSITION WAS AMAZING
If only those fkn producers gave Jay and everyone else the royalties cuz honestly? The original Troy and Cyclops Sagas are superior to the rerecorded ones. Like I love Jay and I understand his reasons but...the new ones just don't hit the same.
LITERALLY
Literally, like, if the studio just would've gave Jay his money these versions would still be available
Yeah
We'll be the ones to slay ✨✨
💅🏻💅🏻
I played this so many times, this is amazing and sad at the same time
HOW AM I JUST NOW FINDING THIS ITS THE COOLEST MUSICAL I'VE EVER HEARD-
“Phew, I sure hope this is the last time Zeus will make me take a difficult decision upon someone’s life”
*Thunder Bringer starts playing*
I didn't know anything about these stories before this, imagine my shock (and dread) when the song transition into that sweet little baby lullaby tone
This shit ain't accurate don't even think you understand Greek mythology y'all don't
" Penelope ~ " LIKE HE MISSES HER THAT MUCH.
Am i the only one that coukd listen to this on a loop
What if, hear me out, he takes the baby home, and while he grows up tell him bedtime stories about the war -"so basically you're the son of the prince of a city I fought in a war against, and when we were storming the place and I found you and decided to adopt you" While the kid is little, he would have no urge to avenge place he's never seen or a father he doesn't remember. As he grows up he will be okay with all of it because he was always okay with it and he won't get mad at his adopted dad when/if the gods tell him because he would already know. The gods would be pissed (which is never good) but unless they blackmail him or something I don't think they can get him to take revenge when he doesn't feel wronged
I mean, I think we should take the factor that the war started partially because of Odysseus. I'm pretty sure that would be enough to upset the kid, or man if Odysseus didn't tell him - most likely because "Your homeland and your biological family are gone because of me" would really mess a child up. Plus the possibility of a conflict with Telemachus, a la "I'm his actual son" versus "And who did he get to read bedtime stories to, Mr. Abandoned while daddy was at war?", also adding that Telemachus would inherit the throne.
So at least he'd be upset and, if there came the typical Greek tragedy coincidence, I can see a series of events leading to people getting hurt.
The gods will interfere- they always do. That’s what Zeus was threatening. Think about how much damage the gods have already done in the war? They just like drama. They would lie and manipulate the boy to hate his father, even if his adoptive father has been honest with him. Would the gods lie or his adoptive father? Who has a greater motive to lie? At face value, it’s would seem more likely his adoptive father would lie to him than the gods.
@@tarniabook3076 Hi, could you explain why the war is partly Odysseus's fault? I've always been told the main (or at least a big) reason the war started was because of Helen, whose only relationship to Odysseus's is that she's Penelope's cousin.
I'd really like to know more.
@@nxzxdxnxzxdx8087 When Helen was going to get married, there were many suitors. To avoid possible disputes, Odysseus suggested all suitors swear to protect Helen's marriage no matter who the husband were. It was because of that promise all those kings went to rescue Helen in the first place, so in a way, it was at least partially his fault.
@@tarniabook3076 But wouldn't they have rescued her anyway? A quick Google search told me she was married to Menelaus of Sparta before eloping (or being kidnapped?) with Paris of Troy. Menelaus is an important person, he would have gathered allies to rescue Helen regardless of the promise. Maybe the war wouldn't have been as important as it was but I think it would have happened anyway.
PS: I am not trying to be rude or disregard what you said. If it seems that way I apologise, English isn't my first language
who else thought it was "Diabetes" instead of "Diomedes" before seeing the lyrics
Me
“Neo, Avenge your father, kill the brothers of Hector” hits so different after Song of Achilles 🙁🙁
makes me so sad
Don’t get me wrong, this song is absolutely amazing and the whole musical is an experience and a half… But the plot of this song confuses me?
Like, Zeus comes down and tells Odysseus “Hey, man, I’m gonna do you a solid. Y’see that baby there? You need to kill that baby or else he’ll grow up and take revenge on you for this whole war.”
And Odysseus makes the very reasonable offer of “Yo, what if we just take the baby, put him on some farm somewhere, and make sure he doesn’t know where he came from. Then he’d have no reason to kill me.”
Then Goose-Fucker Zeus is all like “Nah, cause, see, if you do that, we’ll just _tell_ the baby all about you and what you’ve done.”
Like….. Bro, why? Aren’t you on Odysseus’ side? Isn’t that the whole reason you’re warning him about this baby in the first place? If you’re not on his side, why tell him about the baby at all?
I take that to mean the gods aren’t on anyone’s side. They’ll do what’s most entertaining for themselves. It’s entertainment to watch Odysseus compromise his morals. If he refuses then more entertaining for them to tell the baby who killed his parents and have him hunt Odysseus down. They don’t care about any particular mortals (except MAYBE their demigod children).
To add on to the previous comment, from my understanding it is believed that the gods and goddesses took sides during the battle of troy. While Zeus was on his side, there were other gods who weren't, so they would make sure that when the baby grew up the ones who sided with Prince Hector, he would know what happened yk? I could be completely wrong though lol
@@kpoponbeet yeah a theme of the musical is how pleasing one god pisses off at least 7 others and how impossible it is for mortals to win in these sorts of conflicts
@@komiccomik4796 the theme of more than just the musical, that's all of Greek mythology lol😂
@@kpoponbeet Yeah, it'd perfectly possible for a god who was on the troyan side to show up once Hector's son is fully grown and give him the typical "avenge your homeland" quest.
Damn I thought that first word to the line was diabetes😂😂😂
Its giving Now or Never from HSM and I'm here for it!
0:34 oh yeah I don’t think so after the thunder saga
People always told me be careful of what you do
Why is my favorite part of all the songs is seeing the turtle in the corner at the very end? 😅
thank you for this
you're welcome brother
Thank goodness the originals are still here. I don’t like the remake. I understand why the creators did it. I’m sorry it’s very unfortunate. But man, the org just hits diff.
The line” Penelope “ when you listen to it it sounds like banana peels😂
1:08
Banana peels... 🍌 🍌 🍌
Banana peels... 🍌 🍌 🍌
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I love this version of the song
This give me the same vibes as make a man out of you from Mulan
"epic fight scene ensues" BAJDJSK ACCURATE
When he said Telemachus I heard lemon grease
If you think about it all fights in this musical are epic!
This is just beautifully written and so remarkable. Gosh I'm in love with this playlist (╥﹏╥)💖💝🔥🔥
"Be the one to ✨️slayyyyyyyyy✨️"
Lol I'm rolling and laughing
here bc Spotify is limiting lyric access now 😭
its been six months since i heard his voice and i played it everyday . maybe my neighbors are sick of it but not me🤣.
''The blood on your hands something you won't lose, All you can choose is whose'' hearing that after the Thunder bringer makes sense
This is realy EPIC the musical
Does anyone know when he will release the next album? 🤔
he's said around late january 👍
@@juicylobster tysm! I’m looking forwards to those lyric videos 🤭
np star! i'll see you then 🕺
In 4 days, January 27
ITS OUT NOWWWWWW
I forgot how Dark these stories got
Did anyone else notice that they used the wrong person for who got them into Troy? It was Sinon
wow seriously THIS is the version everybody says is so much better than the new one? Like, yeah, this is still brilliant and amazing, but the new one is just so much better, actually feels like it takes place with the heat of war
Knowing this is Zeus, I'd immediately call bullshit.
Nah, he won't lie like this.
1:51 for myself
The og is so much better. The new stuff is weird
Wheres open arms
Why does this one sound different from spotify
From my understanding this one was the initial release, but the producers weren't letting Jay (creator of the musical and voice of Odysseus) and the rest of the cast and crew have any of the money that was made off of the original Troy and Cyclops Saga. So Jay and everyone else rerecorded both the Troy and Cyclops Saga, thus why the one on Spotify sounds different.
I'm very pissed at the producers who won't pay the Epic cast and crew cuz I prefer this version than the rerecorded one...
@@mutantsandmemes Yea thats BS. Kind of a shame because i like the soldiers lines in this version better. The new one sounds like two or three guys while this one sounds like everyone in the horse
@@sunnybunny5934 yeah I agree
Warrior cats map creators, I have an idea
I'm not a map creator but you have my full attention lol
You have my full attention
Skyla what's the idea
The first part of the song is Firestar preparing the clans for the battle against bloodclan. When it's the fighting, it's cuts of all the awful things tigerstar has done. Then the last part is a starclan cat telling pinstar to kill tigerkit/star and him begging not to
@@harleyloraine7699 ^
1:29
ya know how pride is called a "sin"? welp!!! this is mankinds own fault, humanity is just a whimsical uselessness for useless ness for only who is to chose whom. but to only "have it all." (fame, glory, fun, and without consequence), I loath it.
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