Marvel's Spider-Man 2 | 120 Hz Performance Mode Tested
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2023
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Part 1: • Marvel's Spider-Man 2 ...
Part 2: • Spider-Man 2 Fidelity ...
Marvel's Spider-Man 2 technical review on PlayStation 5. Full detailed review of graphics, resolution, performance, fps test in Performance Mode with 120Hz FPS turned on and VRR set to Uncapped. 60 vs 120 FPS, performance mode vs fidelity, VRR off vs smoothed vs uncapped.
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@@OpenSurprisethe game targets 4K, or so they say. If I set my tv to 1440, or 1080p, would I get extra performance as far as frame rate??
@@julian2238How can you even set your tv to lower resolutions tho? The games make you choose between quality and performance anyways
I should’ve clarified. What I was trying to say was. My monitor is 1440. So I don’t think you can set resolution, (I actually think you can in the system settings) but im talking about my monitor specifically. So I was wondering if it doesn’t have to struggle to scale and maintain that 4K image because it only has to peak at 1440, wouldn’t I save performance? I mean it’s like that on PC. I should get more fps if my system isn’t going towards 4K. But I think the answer is no. On performance mode it only stays a little bit above 60 on both 1440 and 4K displays. Which kinda shows that it’s never actually getting to 4K.
@@julian2238 Mmm, I think I know what you're trynna say, just in case I know that Ps5 can be set to 1440p since a while ago, but doing that doesn't give you any boost in performance, not sure, but I think the console runs games in their native resolutions (4k or whatever) but outputs the game at the resolution of your monitor, the game is not actually 4k tho, It's upscaled from like 1440p, but It looks better than most upscaled games on it, just some objects have noticeable ailising
Thanks for the information so let me ask you which is the best graphics settings to run on because I have a tv that supports 120z vrr and is 4k OLED ? Waiting for the game to install !
I would recommend Fidelity 120Hz, Uncapped VRR
@@OpenSurpriseI do this and the game look gorgeous
@@OpenSurpriseI would like a video on this. To see how consistent it is. It does feel smoother but I would like to see how much over 40fps it goes. Like if it’s an average of 45-50 then it’s definitely worth it but if it’s between 40-45 then not so much.
@rudyg6922 Ok i will make one my man, perhaps will issue it tomorrow - just a short to the point video on Fidelity 120Hz Mode
@@OpenSurprisehmm why fidelity? Isn’t Performance best for max FPS on OLED 4k 120hz..? Thanks
Im looking everywhere trying to understand just one thing: in the case that someone don’t have a tv with vrr support, turning on the 120hz display will make a difference? Cause based in the description that’s what I understood
PS5 settings will not let you turn on VRR mode If your TV does not support it.
@@OpenSurprise Yes, but I’m talking about the 120hz “auto” option. The VRR option doesn’t appear to me, but the 120hz I can turn on (my tv is 120hz) The info says that will “reduce input latency and enable higher frame rates… IF VRR is also enabled, frame rates will be FURTHER increased”.
But thank you for answering anyway :)
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Soo... Do i wanna buy a 120hz monitor to get smoother view or i can just keep playing on 60hz monitor?
Does vrr work in general when it is set to smoothed. I have a sony x85k, and it does not have a built in overlay, so im not sure if vrr is working properly when set to smoothed.
Also I'm using performance mode.
I'm so glad that this pushed you into getting an OLED😆🙏
wish i could turn rt off, that'd probably give a huge boost to the fps.
that also would improve resolution, i really don't get Insomniac choises sometimes
@@marcelofabian6305 i mean it's great they managed to get so many graphical features at 60 fps, but rt is a featured i'd definitly like to be able to trade for better resolution and framerate. But, since i really can't get above 60, i'm just going with fidelity+120hz mode for a solid 40 fps with the full graphical experience
It would give a tremendous boost to your fps. Very likely it'll run at a constant 120fps without RT.
Disabling rt would make the game look mid, rt is what makes the game look more appealing
@@GeoAlex1 why would you want LESS options? If the option was in the game, we could both be happy. you could enjoy your ray traced slide show while i play buttery smooth 120fps.
does the base 120hz mode affect performance mode? or does it just affect the fidelity mode .
It affects both. 120hz allows the framerate to pushed above 60 in performance, and allows fidelity to get an extra 10 fps. The issue for the performance mode is that the ps5 doesn't have the graphical horsepower to get above the 60s in most situations.
I just got my hands on the game and mine is showing consistently above 100 fps in fidelity mode vrr uncapped. My ps5 is set to 1440p in the systems graphics settings and I’m using the new LG ultragear 27 inch OLED monitor.
I explained this in my video, the only time the fps overlay is accurate is in Performance + 120 Hz + VRR uncapped. All other times it will just show 119 or 59 which is just the signal type coming to TV.
Yes you’re right but I’m on the fidelity + VRR uncapped and I can still see the frames on my monitor display moving up and down. And it is around 100 still so I have no idea how you’re getting that performance unless you are in 4K then that’s a different story.
If the frame rate is less than 48 ur tv will just show 119. No way fidelity runs that high,
@@OpenSurprise Yeah you’re right I’m on performance mode + VRR uncapped now. It runs buttery smooth still but like you said in the video it is showing around 60-90 fps which isn’t bad for ray tracing always enabled. I’m having a blast with the game and have no complaints on the performance of the game because with vrr enabled it looks and feels so smooth.
@@TheSkrudsyeah thats not accurate like he said. Games on fidelity at 40fps with show 119fps. Tvs or monitors will never show framrates under 60 fps, it will only start to show once its about 60fps
I couldn't understand the difference between smoothed and uncapped ?
Smooth is locked at 40fps the other is unlocked.
@@SolidBoss7 thx dude
Off topic but anyone else having trouble doing a 1440p test in the ps5 settings ?
Yes some TVs/Monitors don’t register 1440p correctly on PS5 but there’s a get around
@@tgreg9542 I have the LG C3 and I tested it on my series X and it works, but won’t test on the ps5, even though it says it supports it
Great video. Best to keep it real with all the fps lies and fakeness in the media. Thanks.
Is 75hz good for a monitor to play this game?
I have the Samsung Odyssey G7. Supports VRR 4k120fps. So can the game support 4k120fps? Or no
Maybe when it comes out on PC and you have the most expensive hardware
what tv is this?
Well done, and kudos to buying a new TV to prove a point 😂 sponsor this guy LG
Highly professional video. Well done.
Is anyone dealing with fps issues when swinging or doing crimes cause like I’m concern if it’s my physical copy affected.
Yes it happens to me. Lots of drops when swinging and when near fire, or fighting many people
@@momensaber1189 exactly my situation too, I hope this gets attention to the devs
@@ericp905 I hope so really because it's annoying
mistakes happen, but the main issue was the title and phrasing, saying they lied. can't go around claiming things like that without talking to them first. again with backhand comments like "staring into the ceiling, maybe thats how ign does their analysis". just say "hey i couldn't find a situation where it goes to 100fps unless I look at the ceiling". no need to go at people like that.
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Couldn’t agree more
How Spiderman 1 and Miles Morales work in 120 fps with ray tracing, enhanced lighting and VFX, extra high quality picture from a 4K resolution base, but not exactly 120 but 119.9 on fidelity. And I have a QLED TCL 144 Hz with a 240 Hz game accelerator ,not a single game runs below 60 fps for me, even the ones that claim to run 30 fps.And why Spiderman games and Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart have such power and the best graphics while newer games like Alan Wake and many others that are made in Unreal Engine 5 don't have such good graphics at all, especially when it comes to reflections and reflections in the mirror, those games don't have that at all, and Unreal Engine 5 is like the best and latest, and for consoles it's pure bullshit.20 year old games have a mirror image and these new ones don't, at least not on the console, TLOU 1 from 2013 has a mirror image.
If you were talking shit about Spider-Man two, who cares? It’s an opinion. I think it’s AAA casual gamers trash. Don’t let the world scare ya bruh! Let it out! It performs like shit on good tech monitors and we all know it.
The reason it barely holds 60 is because of the forced rt even in the uncapped mode for some reason
Consoles are holding back gaming
@@koyomiararagi9745are they
@@koyomiararagi9745 Gaming exists because of consoles. PC gaming is relatively niche and overpriced (and yes, I have a gaming PC.)
@@koyomiararagi9745Yet all those nice looking PC games out there are made with consoles hardware, just like gta6
@@Fastwalker27Well they literally are... All triple AAA games have shittier visuals because they also are required to release on consoles. Why didn't Elden Ring look like Demon Souls? Because it was also made for PS4. If every game was a PC exclusive then games would literally look twice as good. For example Metro Enhanced edition which is specifically made for Ray tracing capable PC's.
It’s really like cherry picking. The game looks amazing and one of the most optimised and best looking game on consoles. With uncapped vrr it can go between 60-80 thats true 80mor like indoor areas. Who has 120hz is v they should play it in fidelity 40fps mode anyway to get the best out of it.
40 fps is shit. You need a minimum of 48fps for VRR to work
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 40fps in a 120hz tv very decent….
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 You must have an old TV. Most Oled’s released in the last 3 years have VRR work from 20hz to 120hz
Dude, I’m happy for your new TV purchase, it’s a great one, but also you know you were going to buy that anyways. Regardless of ign or DF. Also, they are professionals. You are an amateur, but I respect the grind, just don’t lie, say things like “round down” and expect to be taken as serious as the others, ESPECIALLY Digital Foundry.
Bro is it just me or 60hz looks better than 120 hz? Even though i have 240hz monitor
Stable 60fps looks better than unstable 120 that's why. A PS5 can't hold 120fps, but it can stay at 99% with 60fps
Spidey 2 doesn’t look good in 120hz. It drops the color from 12b to 8b and makes everything look washed out. It’s better to turn 120hz off
Must be your TV/monitor, my TV displays 120hz beautiful yea it looks to 1440p but it doesn’t change the colors or nothing like that. His TV in this video look beautiful in 120hz also. So it HAS to be your TV/Monitor is low budget aka CHEAP& TRASH
@@tgreg9542 it’s not the tv, ps5 outputs a lower color bitrate in 120hz. It doesn’t matter what screen you are using, it’s the hardware.
@@alphaj9Is there any profesional on yt that claims that
cuz for me colors look exactly the same, the only thing that changes is the res which you notice it easily, that's why games boosts fps a bit more, unless my tv has a problem that reproduces same colors at 120hz
Sorry but I had to change the title to that - it may be a bit much - because DF would rather show gameplay stare at the SKY than correct their misleading statement.
deleted all comments? lmfao
This is a new video, old one was deleted after DF requested.
@@OpenSurpriseThey asked you to remove the video because you are spreading nonsense? You do understand that this is a precedent, right? What if all your videos are crap?
2:20 "not between 70-80 like Digital Foundry claims"
You are once again misrepresenting what DF says to fit your narrative. They said: "the frame-rate can go above 60fps, normally 65-80fps" - which is true. Once again, they said 65, not 70 like you claim. This is a significant difference. If they said 70, you'd be right, but they didn't so you're not. It's on 10:16 in their video and in the article on Eurogamer.
Also, 65-80 is a range. While I agree it's almost never (or never) 80 in the open world while travelling the city, it can easily be 80 in closed spaces, interiors, etc. DF has no reason to make false claims which can easily be refuted by anyone with a LG TV. They have a reputation to uphold so what would be the reason to tarnish their reputation over something so insignificant? What would they gain by lying, while having so much to lose?
They say NORMALLY 65 to 80 FPS; I saw normally 60 to 65, that's a big difference.
And its never NORMALLY 70-100 even in the indoor missions, unless you stare at the ceiling - which isn't a proper analysis in my books.
@khightofjustice2828 before you say blah blah how bout you fix up your grammar before saying Sony lied cause they didn't
@khightofjustice2828lmao go back to your 30FPS locked dog shit game that sits on 83 on metacritic and failed to save a dying console 😂😂😂😂
What did DF mean when they said it averages 65 to 80 fps? How can you average either or? (rhetorical questions) I can't help but feel like DF was trying to fluff it up for whatever reason. Going from 65 to 80 to 60 to 65 is in fact a big difference. Good on you, my man.@@OpenSurprise
I don't know if they paid them to "lie" as much as paid them to mislead, although, there doesn't seem to be much of a difference. I'm wondering if DF was at least trying to make the numbers look better than what they really were so that a few more copies can be sold.@khightofjustice2828
Digital Foundry do use custom software when they measure frame rates and performance modes, pixels etc.
Alex talked about it in a podcast and its software thats not available to the public.
Its bad to make assumptions about content creators whos whole channel are about measuring frame rates, graphs, pixels and resolutions across all consoles and PC that use a software that they only have access to, so you don't know what they see.
Not really, in the settings I’m talking about here they used the overlay in a LG tv 🤣
@OpenSurprise they have other tools to measure. Not just the measly lg overlay 😂
PS5 PRO will get the 120 FPS easily
Maybe if it has frame generation.
They didn’t lie lol. But in the event that’s what you’re trying to say, how?
They did lie because they say you're getting VRR under 48 fps
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 some displays do get VRR down to 1FPS. If the game supports VRR then it’s up to the display how good its VRR capabilities are. 🤔
Anything less then 100 is a joke! PC all the way
have fun playing the game in 1-2 years 😊
🤣if that@@spiltcoff33
PC life, 480p but 1000fps! 😂
Nah
@@comradeweedity1648bro you must’ve never heard of the rtx 4090 ti💀
You dont own a 4090.. @@4Kslimy
Why do people claim Fidelity mode 120 uncapped goes over 40fps? Isn't that under the PS5s VRR range? Uncapped fidelity doesn't go over 40 for me on my C2 OLED.
you need to have VRR turned on in you PS5 settings menu also need to have a 120hz capable tv then make sure to have 120hz on auto and vrr uncapped in the game menu.
@@callmesxege1878 Duh. I'm on a LG C2 OLED everything is set up properly.
It’s gone over 40fps a few times.
@@BigJugsRule92 How are you confirming that? Monitor's built in FPS counter?
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