A CIWS starts to track targets at about 148 knots. It's a last ditch effort to protect the ship. It's not used for engagement with other ships and small boats.
A bofors 57mm naval gun in the front could be a good offensive shore gun, a CWIS is a must on this ship they can install it in the higher mounts like in the roof of the super structure.
Very few users seem to want ships with bow ramps for unimproved landing sites. I've found one class of combined LST/LPD, the old Soviet "Ivan Rogov:" and they didn't build many and didn't replace them and nobody else seems to do it. The Russians haven't built any more LSTs, nor the US. Everybody is going with LHA and a few with well decks aft for watercraft. A very useful class would be something big enough to operate STOVL planes, perhaps with a ski jump, but also for other missions be capable of LST/LPD, as well as trans-shipping freight from container ships as well as tankers. Ballast the rear end down for a wet well deck aft while pumping the front end tanks dry, to beach it. If it's a big ship, the rear end is out far enough that big freighters and tankers can come alongside the aft end.
This ship is very useful for us, an Indonesian country whose country is in the form of an archipelago. The shipping of soldiers, amphibious tanks and combat vehicles to an island become very easy. In addition, tanks and other amphibious vehicles can immediately take an attacking position in taking over an island through the bow door of the ship.
So damn cool. Power through the waves, ram the thing on to a beach, drop the ramp and send tanks charging at the fortifications while providing support fire. And when it's safe enough send your troops flying though the broken line in armored transports.
2 50 cals and what looks like a 25 or something, youll be fine, anything bigger that needs some hurting will be taken on by cruisers, assault craft, air support etc.
Probably still not much. Safe to assume they wanted the lowest draft possible so they used light weight materials. I’m just taking a guess though so correct me if you find the right answer.
If you do the displacement calculations on essentially flat-bottom boats like this, you find out that water is... very very heavy... 61 pounds per cubic foot, or a metric ton per cubic meter. Take 100 meters x 15m x 3m (approx average dimensions for this ship below waterline if you squared it up) = 4500 metric tons of total lift/float. The boat only takes up 1700 of that, leaving you (2800 tons!) a lot of room for cargo & cakes. The thing could literally carry another one of itself as cargo. Irregularities in the shape of the bottom and a little rocking with the waves mean you may actually draw another meter or so. It's amazing how much stuff will float in a boat that is still mostly full of air and spreads out sideways. You could put 4 inches of steel armor on that lander and it would only add another meter of draft. If you want to see some really wacky size to draft ratios, look at what catamarans and trimarans can do. There are 42x12-meter water-taxi catamarans that only draw 1.5 meters and can go 40 knots. With a true trimaran, you can practically have the deck space of a small aircraft carrier and you could literally wade out to it from shore. The thing is, you may see stats on aircraft carriers and some other long-running big ships, and they are sucking up like 15 meters of water; but those have long, narrow keels sticking down like fins. Those deepwater hulls are not about carrying more stuff, they are about navigational efficiency, stability in nasty weather, and speed. That carrier has to stay rock-steady and on a tight course in storm waters for the planes to land safely. An LST can afford to rock'n'roll with the waves a bit more -- it will get plenty stable again once it grounds itself up on the beach :)
@@animistchannel2983 the draftsurveys on yachts and multi hull designs arent realy applicable on this ship. Its safe to state that all merchant ships nowadays are flat bottomed as the draft itself is a limiting factor in the ports and shoals it can safely navigate. A boxy mid section is the norm with a little bit of kim for rolling cushioning. Keeping in mind that stability wise the rightingmoment is highly dependent on weight destribution and less on hull and keel form itself. Also in the case of beaching a vessel the stability would be critical with any form of v shaped hull. The mass to volume on the loads this ship will experience is realy low as hmmv's or any vehicle would be almost completly filled with air, the same as accomodations for marines and crew. Also the volume/mass of seawater (atleast the oceans) is 1.025ton/m^3. It would be safe to say the ship would be orientated to saltwater beaches.
@ Finn -- probably not on the roof, as it likely wasn't designed with the excess space and specs for a full Phalanx class CIWS ? But perhaps one of those 20kw +/- drone zapper lasers could however be installed there ? But you likely could replace the 30mm bow gun with a CIWS sys of some sort. Yes .
If you were really doing a landing under likely fire, you'd have air support jets, plus gun coverage from at least OPV's like the Holland class (76mm @ up to 120 shells/minute from 16km out, or sitting just offshore behind you in like 5 meters of water with its 30mm and various 12mm); plus there's the helicopter the lander carries itself and the OPV's chopper, which means even more machine guns and rockets, etc. Also, the crew (or your landing infantry dudes) can get up on the foredeck with their weapons and cover the first stage vehicle landing from the sniper positions set up there. Notice the peek-holes in the armor wall around the perimeter of the 30mm? Of course, as soon as the first tanks roll out to ground from the RORO deck, you have mobile armor support with all their stuff going on for the rest of the parade. They will just squash anything in the vicinity before your infantry dudes even have to walk off the deck. If you're trying to come ashore against too much heat for all that to cover, you need to just back off out to sea and let the carrier group soften up that area until it's bloody ready to land on, sir! A ship like this doesn't just show up out of nowhere and run around by itself. It comes with a pack of big nasty friends and a plan. Of course, in the real world, there won't be another D-day, and what's most likely to come rolling out of there is a UN relief convoy full of water bottles and medical supplies for an earthquake disaster response. Real war among "equal powers" is essentially over. The only people who can really afford to play have too much incentive to not blow up all their riches. Whatever campaigns happen after this will be putting down pirates or taking out a local tinpot dictator who tortures babies. That's why you see so much downsizing to lighter/patrol vessels with equivalent-scaled weapons. For anything big, you use air power.
The Damen shipyard ads are quite interesting and informative, but some of us wonder how durable their ships really are. How well do Damen ships hold up to rough seas (e.g. Sea State 8 or higher)? How often must they be docked for overhaul and repainting? Are there new paints and coatings that give ships more life? How protected are ships to modern-day pirates and smugglers from 14.5 mm machine guns and RPGs?
Maybe you should worry about making the few ships you have work, before considering even more ships. I heard all of UK's destroyers were in the shipyard cause they all broke down. Royal Navy was unable to replace the destroyer that had suffered the glitch in that exercise. Thank gods UK was not at war then.
@@cyanoticspore676 It is not true. It was true once when the report had made it to the papers.www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/six-royal-navys-type-45-11722210
Mais um ótimo navio fabricado pela DAMEN. Lindo navio, engenharia de construção formidável. Sem dúvida, um navio que qualquer marinha do mundo gostaria imensamente de possuir em sua esquadra.
Ja , ja , ja ... ¿ Que comes que adivinas ? Solo a partir de fines de abril y , por lo que dijo el Contraalmirante Ramiro Navajas Santini ... se sabe del proyecto ESCOTILLON -4 que esta en si fase inicial para elegir un Diseño Basico Naval que termine en la Construccion de 3 Barcazas de Desembarco Anfibio (21-5-2020 )
If I could put this on my Farm Pond I think it could help with my Feral Pig problem. There are no navigable Rivers within 250 miles of my Ranch. Can you bring this to me by Truck and how much would Shipping Cost?
from what i have seen, they could of saved some money by minor updates to the newport class lst. they allready have all of the features listed here plus a whole lot more.
I think the USMC needed some amphibious capacity to increase their flexibility in the Indo-pacific with a Light Amphibious Ship. The US projects cost are explosing, this could be an excellent solution. Add a decent close air defence and they are good to go.
Top! Seria ótimo se o Brasil pudesse construir pelo menos 1 numa parceria, já que os nossos G25 & G28 são de 1966 e 1969 e precisam ser aposentados urgentemente.
The layout is almost the exact same as the Old World War II era LSTs. The Only Exception is the old LSTs used elevators to get vehicles from top deck to the bottom deck and this ship uses ramps
Ships like this would have been really useful on D-Day. Thousands of men who were mowed down on the beaches (think the opening scene of SPR) would not have been.
I didn’t think I needed this but now I know I need it more than anything, I think I’ll take 2 actually, perfect for my army
Weeb? Nice profile picture and username.
*i think 2020 is about to get a lot more chaotic*
big chungus sim racing Yeah true,might go for a third one then. Hopefully it won’t break my budget
MiguelPpM yeah I am
Can I join your army?
Perfect for visiting my neighbours in Venice.
Oh thanks, I was wondering how to move my military ships.
UA-cam recommendation anyone
Me from ph
Me too, but worthy (for me, personally)
@@Barri2410 yes..worth watching
I bet EVERYONE in China has it now..can probably buy Christmas toys of it this yr.
Me
I did not think I would be interested about a video about landers but I was wrong.
Perfect! I was in the market for an amphibious assault transport!
Definitely a seriously cool ship, gotta love working ships!!
Just what I need for my invasion of France next summer. Going to grab a few from Walmart.
Hi there, random SpaceX fan!
Sorry, but Walmart will have the Chinese knockoffs! One big wave and they will break into pieces! Go all American!
Bruh if it's France you're invading then you won't need all this.
I think a CIWS instead of the 30mm cannon could really improve crew safety
The landing ship would be escorted by escort ships. The bow gun is its last line of defense
They most likely have 50 mounts through out the ship, the newport class T's had 2 3" twin mounts
A CIWS starts to track targets at about 148 knots. It's a last ditch effort to protect the ship. It's not used for engagement with other ships and small boats.
A bofors 57mm naval gun in the front could be a good offensive shore gun, a CWIS is a must on this ship they can install it in the higher mounts like in the roof of the super structure.
The Royal Marines need some of these...
Tom Eason or the REAL American marines!
Just kidding
@@murphym3755 MURICA DON'T NEED THAT THING!!
@@murphym3755 THEY ALWAYS SPAM LANDING CRAFT AIRCRAFT CARRIER
@@happyalltheday2275 now I just imagine Nimitz's fucking just ROMPING onto the beaches destroying their bows and planes falling out.
Incredible design !!!
Very well done .
Looks much different than the 246 class LST I served on in VN! Great new look for an LST, a few less weapons than we had, but probably mucho accurate
Deffently different than the newport class
Thank you for your service sir
Very few users seem to want ships with bow ramps for unimproved landing sites.
I've found one class of combined LST/LPD, the old Soviet "Ivan Rogov:" and they didn't build many and didn't replace them and nobody else seems to do it. The Russians haven't built any more LSTs, nor the US. Everybody is going with LHA and a few with well decks aft for watercraft.
A very useful class would be something big enough to operate STOVL planes, perhaps with a ski jump, but also for other missions be capable of LST/LPD, as well as trans-shipping freight from container ships as well as tankers.
Ballast the rear end down for a wet well deck aft while pumping the front end tanks dry, to beach it.
If it's a big ship, the rear end is out far enough that big freighters and tankers can come alongside the aft end.
Like a modified juan carlos?
Very impressive vessel for it's size.
The Royal Marines Commandoes need this bit of kit yesterday !!!
Amazing job!!! Great & wonderful ship, I really like it.
Are you going to put the details on your web page?
Was looking at Yacht Support Vessels. Wasn't disappointed.
Came for the LST stayed for the fresh beats
God bless Albanian Nation!
DAMEN dan PT PAL Indonesia terus berkarya😊
This ship is very useful for us, an Indonesian country whose country is in the form of an archipelago. The shipping of soldiers, amphibious tanks and combat vehicles to an island become very easy. In addition, tanks and other amphibious vehicles can immediately take an attacking position in taking over an island through the bow door of the ship.
BEAUTIFUL !!
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
So damn cool.
Power through the waves, ram the thing on to a beach, drop the ramp and send tanks charging at the fortifications while providing support fire. And when it's safe enough send your troops flying though the broken line in armored transports.
Great video. Awesome capability. Only suggestion would be a little bit more on deck armament to suppress enemy response to landing
2 50 cals and what looks like a 25 or something, youll be fine, anything bigger that needs some hurting will be taken on by cruisers, assault craft, air support etc.
Awesome concept barge bottom deck for storage vehicles transport nice like innovation
Now that’s a warship!
So what is the fully loaded displacement for this ship?
yes
@@kushmanthebushman LMAO
1700 tonnes, I found it on the company website
Nicholas Teng that is light.
@@justanotherasian4395 But it is what it is
Best ship ever
EXCELLENT !!!!!!!!!!
9 tank, 6 apc, 12 humvee, 4 lcvp, is that possible? how deep is the ship's draft with full load?
Probably still not much. Safe to assume they wanted the lowest draft possible so they used light weight materials. I’m just taking a guess though so correct me if you find the right answer.
Draft would be around 3 to 4 meters. Why is that not possible?
If you do the displacement calculations on essentially flat-bottom boats like this, you find out that water is... very very heavy... 61 pounds per cubic foot, or a metric ton per cubic meter.
Take 100 meters x 15m x 3m (approx average dimensions for this ship below waterline if you squared it up) = 4500 metric tons of total lift/float. The boat only takes up 1700 of that, leaving you (2800 tons!) a lot of room for cargo & cakes. The thing could literally carry another one of itself as cargo. Irregularities in the shape of the bottom and a little rocking with the waves mean you may actually draw another meter or so.
It's amazing how much stuff will float in a boat that is still mostly full of air and spreads out sideways. You could put 4 inches of steel armor on that lander and it would only add another meter of draft.
If you want to see some really wacky size to draft ratios, look at what catamarans and trimarans can do. There are 42x12-meter water-taxi catamarans that only draw 1.5 meters and can go 40 knots. With a true trimaran, you can practically have the deck space of a small aircraft carrier and you could literally wade out to it from shore.
The thing is, you may see stats on aircraft carriers and some other long-running big ships, and they are sucking up like 15 meters of water; but those have long, narrow keels sticking down like fins. Those deepwater hulls are not about carrying more stuff, they are about navigational efficiency, stability in nasty weather, and speed.
That carrier has to stay rock-steady and on a tight course in storm waters for the planes to land safely. An LST can afford to rock'n'roll with the waves a bit more -- it will get plenty stable again once it grounds itself up on the beach :)
@@animistchannel2983 Great explanation!
@@animistchannel2983 the draftsurveys on yachts and multi hull designs arent realy applicable on this ship. Its safe to state that all merchant ships nowadays are flat bottomed as the draft itself is a limiting factor in the ports and shoals it can safely navigate. A boxy mid section is the norm with a little bit of kim for rolling cushioning.
Keeping in mind that stability wise the rightingmoment is highly dependent on weight destribution and less on hull and keel form itself. Also in the case of beaching a vessel the stability would be critical with any form of v shaped hull.
The mass to volume on the loads this ship will experience is realy low as hmmv's or any vehicle would be almost completly filled with air, the same as accomodations for marines and crew. Also the volume/mass of seawater (atleast the oceans) is 1.025ton/m^3. It would be safe to say the ship would be orientated to saltwater beaches.
Gotta hand it to Damen. They design some cool looking boats.
這麼設計畫很不錯！👍👍👍
I'm a 17 yo student, why tf I got so many weapon system and military equipement videos in my recommendation?
wow good south korea must buy this one
any of them built and in service yet ?
Maybe add one Phalanx CIWS on the roof?
Nah. Too op.
@ Finn -- probably not on the roof, as it likely wasn't designed with the excess space and specs for a full Phalanx class CIWS ? But perhaps one of those 20kw +/- drone zapper lasers could however be installed there ? But you likely could replace the 30mm bow gun with a CIWS sys of some sort. Yes .
If you were really doing a landing under likely fire, you'd have air support jets, plus gun coverage from at least OPV's like the Holland class (76mm @ up to 120 shells/minute from 16km out, or sitting just offshore behind you in like 5 meters of water with its 30mm and various 12mm); plus there's the helicopter the lander carries itself and the OPV's chopper, which means even more machine guns and rockets, etc.
Also, the crew (or your landing infantry dudes) can get up on the foredeck with their weapons and cover the first stage vehicle landing from the sniper positions set up there. Notice the peek-holes in the armor wall around the perimeter of the 30mm?
Of course, as soon as the first tanks roll out to ground from the RORO deck, you have mobile armor support with all their stuff going on for the rest of the parade. They will just squash anything in the vicinity before your infantry dudes even have to walk off the deck.
If you're trying to come ashore against too much heat for all that to cover, you need to just back off out to sea and let the carrier group soften up that area until it's bloody ready to land on, sir!
A ship like this doesn't just show up out of nowhere and run around by itself. It comes with a pack of big nasty friends and a plan. Of course, in the real world, there won't be another D-day, and what's most likely to come rolling out of there is a UN relief convoy full of water bottles and medical supplies for an earthquake disaster response.
Real war among "equal powers" is essentially over. The only people who can really afford to play have too much incentive to not blow up all their riches. Whatever campaigns happen after this will be putting down pirates or taking out a local tinpot dictator who tortures babies. That's why you see so much downsizing to lighter/patrol vessels with equivalent-scaled weapons. For anything big, you use air power.
You’d think there would be one with additional Laser systems to fry missles
Other naval vessels by Damen are equipped with the MANTIS by Rheinmetall.
Well this looks nice im adding this on my minecraft military base.
I love DAMEN !
RAMEN
The USCG needs these, it would improve their range by alot
It would be so cool to have one of these
Pt. Pal mungkin bisa buat KRI jenis LST kerjasama dg DAMEN industries Belanda.
Oh this is good!
This boat is beautiful because of what is inside and usefulness
Luar biasa pelaut ke eropa smoga sukses saudaraku.
the best choice to replace Batral Champlain :)
Nice clean transition
Fantastic
Who else watched this without clicking the video
2025 Việt Nam có hai tàu đổ bộ này thì tuyệt vời 😁👍
Sắp có r, đang đặt mua Sigma 9814 của hãng Damen này luôn nè
Can I get an early access reviewer model? I promise I’ll give it back
Excelente aquisição para o Corpo de Fuzileiros Navais da Marinha do Brasil...
É incrível como são lindos e utilitários esses produtos navais!
The Damen shipyard ads are quite interesting and informative, but some of us wonder how durable their ships really are. How well do Damen ships hold up to rough seas (e.g. Sea State 8 or higher)? How often must they be docked for overhaul and repainting? Are there new paints and coatings that give ships more life? How protected are ships to modern-day pirates and smugglers from 14.5 mm machine guns and RPGs?
Amazing looking ship the UK should buy some.
Maybe you should worry about making the few ships you have work, before considering even more ships. I heard all of UK's destroyers were in the shipyard cause they all broke down. Royal Navy was unable to replace the destroyer that had suffered the glitch in that exercise. Thank gods UK was not at war then.
@@death_parade yeah that's not true
@@cyanoticspore676 It is not true. It was true once when the report had made it to the papers.www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/six-royal-navys-type-45-11722210
love these work ships ...
Mais um ótimo navio fabricado pela DAMEN. Lindo navio, engenharia de construção formidável. Sem dúvida, um navio que qualquer marinha do mundo gostaria imensamente de possuir em sua esquadra.
so if the ship was being shot at during sleep time, would the troops get first serve?
Polivalente. Buen diseño. Estos holandeses saben lo que hacen
Gracias
perfect for my army
could use smoke launchers to cover landing troops, maybe lightly armored bow?
Hermoso 😍 😍 👍👍👍👍,deme tres para Chilito, 👏👏👏👏
Ja , ja , ja ... ¿ Que comes que adivinas ? Solo a partir de fines de abril y , por lo que dijo el Contraalmirante Ramiro Navajas Santini ... se sabe del proyecto ESCOTILLON -4 que esta en si fase inicial para elegir un Diseño Basico Naval que termine en la Construccion de 3 Barcazas de Desembarco Anfibio (21-5-2020 )
@@teddy2738 uhh, ojalá se dé el proyecto estimado. 🇨🇱👍
i'm asking my self ... why sea are so polluted with so good technology..available ??
Peaple got this in there recomended? I searches for it
not going lie this is very well engineered and taught of this must have taken months. hope u make bank off of some countries.
can you feature all concepts designs available just like in the video
If I could put this on my Farm Pond I think it could help with my Feral Pig problem. There are no navigable Rivers within 250 miles of my Ranch. Can you bring this to me by Truck and how much would Shipping Cost?
You have to offer this type of vessel to Brazil if they want an accepted technology transfer
Won't the front door be stuck in the mud?
What about color options? Can i get a pink one?
from what i have seen, they could of saved some money by minor updates to the newport class lst. they allready have all of the features listed here plus a whole lot more.
Nothing like the LST I was on back in 1980!
LST-1181 USS SUMTER
@@erichall3090 LST 1180 Manitowoc, Little Creek, VA
@@erichall3090 wat you know bout the sumter...?
@@snizakes All day NYC son, whatup
@@snizakes Get at me.
The music kind of reminds me of puddle of mudd's blurry. It took me a while to figure out where I heard this before.
Lol with that thumbnail I thought its a printer lol
I think the USMC needed some amphibious capacity to increase their flexibility in the Indo-pacific with a Light Amphibious Ship. The US projects cost are explosing, this could be an excellent solution.
Add a decent close air defence and they are good to go.
Pls also made video on lpd vessels 🙏🙏🙏
Top! Seria ótimo se o Brasil pudesse construir pelo menos 1 numa parceria, já que os nossos G25 & G28 são de 1966 e 1969 e precisam ser aposentados urgentemente.
sim.
Dürfen auch Herren dieses Schiff benutzen? ;)
au mann...
Der kommt Flach wie die Niederlande
Hihi Haha 😂 😂😂
Nice
The music is pure hell.
Only in Europe what does the United States have?
Maybe a little more protection for the side boats, I think they are too exposed to enemy fire... Great ship :)
@@tatumergo3931 sure, I mean not to damage the ships in case of enemy fire or something, just for protection of the ships.
@@tatumergo3931 Yes, maybe you're right :)
Muy bien utilizando el espacio interior, PERÚ debe comprar 8 LIS 120 por la geografía del PERÚ y para DEFENSA NACIONAL.
El modelo LST-120 ist' ideal for Chilean Navy... great !!
How much price this ship I will buy it
I think that the Marines are in the market for something like this
I’m sorry but don’t miss something about the lifeboats it’s kind of important don’t you think
might cop one idk
Why need the Davit/crane?
anyone notice the black hawks tail landing gear is son its belly?
Vocês têm que oferecer esses tipo de embarcação para o Brazil
Time to park this ship next to India.
Hey Albania needs some of those
Perfect for a massacre.
It’s a music category? ;)
LST 80 O 100 SERIAN MAGNIFICOS PARA EL PERU, PERO AUMENTANDOLE SU VELOCIDAD.
Anyone know the name of the song/artist used in this video?
The layout is almost the exact same as the Old World War II era LSTs. The Only Exception is the old LSTs used elevators to get vehicles from top deck to the bottom deck and this ship uses ramps
Ships like this would have been really useful on D-Day. Thousands of men who were mowed down on the beaches (think the opening scene of SPR) would not have been.
how does this benefit me?