How I Would Fix Banette in Pokémon Emerald

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  • @mattdeluccia153
    @mattdeluccia153 Рік тому +515

    “A slow, frail mixed attacker. Truly a Hoenn moment” 😂

    • @gg41451
      @gg41451 Рік тому +73

      For real bro 💀 I love hoenn but like wtf where they thinking with the stats of their Pokemon?
      Seviper, Sharpedo, Shiftry, Crawdaunt, Cacturne, Banette, and Castform got done so dirty 😭

    • @pikminman13
      @pikminman13 Рік тому +14

      and a few gens later they ended up making the shrumplefump trope (weird ability slow frail mixed attacker with 475 bst). not that we didnt get mons like castform.

    • @azurneon
      @azurneon Рік тому +36

      @@gg41451 Sharpedo, Shiftry and Crawdaunt are pretty great in battle though, I think Banette and Castform got done the dirtiest

    • @gg41451
      @gg41451 Рік тому +14

      @@azurneon Yeah idk why I said sharpedo. Crawdaunt and Shiftry are great as well and I love using them in Gen 9 UU. But back in Gen 3, they sucked.

    • @galvsparks6295
      @galvsparks6295 Рік тому +3

      ​@@gg41451 even in gen 3, sharpedo was decent, the other 2 fair

  • @MishKoz
    @MishKoz Рік тому +628

    Oh my god, making Shuppet an in-game trade is genius. You always have great ideas for these videos, and this is no exception.

    • @bubbasully15
      @bubbasully15 Рік тому +28

      Seriously. That’s professional level writing

    • @Ten_Thousand_Locusts
      @Ten_Thousand_Locusts Рік тому +8

      Hey look it's that guy that popularised icebergs and then went back to shitposting. Fucking legend

  • @thevioletbee5879
    @thevioletbee5879 Рік тому +590

    Personally I’d make it ghost normal. Something about being the spirit of a simple abandoned children’s toy just tracks in my head. And the ghost immunity would give it a niche.

    • @gigastrike2
      @gigastrike2 Рік тому +183

      You know what? That's way better. It gives it better stab moves and doesn't overshadow Sableye in it's own debut generation.

    • @kimotokirby1601
      @kimotokirby1601 Рік тому +27

      yeah, it works for this run and it's fun, but it would have too much competition the more generations pass

    • @lottabee
      @lottabee Рік тому +78

      Fits it's lore incredibly well too, Shuppet/Banette used to be a normal doll until it got discarded. So having it be part normal type is a nice throwback.

    • @IndigoEuphonium
      @IndigoEuphonium Рік тому +88

      Imagine a Normal/Ghost Banette that learns Return. A good move that it gets STAB from and gets stronger as you travel with it and become its new friend

    • @orbboom6119
      @orbboom6119 Рік тому +26

      I thought zen was gonna make it normal/ghost too

  • @michofpie
    @michofpie Рік тому +353

    Frustration was introduced in Gen II not Gen IV. It was even a TM from Gens II - VII. Frustration would work really well for the lore of this pokemon, but it would be a bit too strong for early game because if you get it at the minimum friendship value of 35, it's base power would be 88. That being said, it could work in Emerald because the first gym resists normal.

    • @adnanilyas6368
      @adnanilyas6368 Рік тому +69

      Frustration on the traded Pokémon specifically would also be really, really good for the world building. Even if it isn’t a move learned by level-up, giving it to that Pokémon specifically would be great.

    • @ZenModeYT
      @ZenModeYT  Рік тому +178

      Yeah I think I misread this on bulbapedia. Totally would have added it otherwise! Oh well at least I mentioned it :/

    • @Mariokemon
      @Mariokemon Рік тому +23

      @@ZenModeYT funny enough, in the anime, Harley's Bannette used Frustration

    • @Hyper_Drud
      @Hyper_Drud Рік тому +9

      There’s an NPC in Pacifidlog Town who gives you either the TM for Return or Frustration depending on the happiness of the first Pokémon in your party. You can speak to him again after several irl days (if your battery’s not dry) to get another TM.

    • @Bossfightmedia
      @Bossfightmedia Рік тому +2

      @@adnanilyas6368 Worldbuilding in Pokemon is an absolute fucking mess. Take out the suspension of disbelief and it falls apart like a Cardhouse. Literally nothing makes sense. I'm trying to fix this for over a week now, and its close to impossible to make everything coherent even just one gen, because there is no Canon consistency intended whatsoever. The Director of Ruby / Sapphire himself said that they like to see each game as its own world thats not connected to the others at all.
      However, I do agree that it would be a nice touch if Frustration would be great on Banette.

  • @techknight3753
    @techknight3753 Рік тому +51

    While I agree with the reasoning for the Dark type addition, I feel it would have been equally fitting to make Banette Ghost/Normal. It is an entirely average every day object (a doll) that has been possessed.
    Not to mention on the gameplay front this leaves it with exactly one weakness in all generations. The dark type, perhaps a fitting representation of it's childish malice. It belives it has experienced the worst there is in the world, so when a force darker then it's hate assaults it... it essentially falls apart. Also gaining a second physical stab type would mean the world to it; especially since Ghost/Normal is perfect neutral coverage. It would also very fittingly make Frustration/Return it's strongest stab option. Representing that for it to reach it's full potential it must either delve to the deepest parts of it's hatered, or heal it's soul with a new friend.

  • @MrSmileymonkey
    @MrSmileymonkey Рік тому +431

    BABE WAKE UP NEW ZEN MODE VIDEO

  • @gelatinousglob8521
    @gelatinousglob8521 Рік тому +125

    Omg the name Bannabelle is GENIUS. It sounds just like a name an in-game traded Pokémon would actually have, and there’s the Annabelle reference. Honestly it’s the best nickname I’ve ever heard!

  • @atumegaenter9139
    @atumegaenter9139 Рік тому +75

    i like the idea of Shuppet being a early game trade, and the inclusion of Revenge help a lot. i'm more on the boat of giving the Normal/Ghost type instead of Ghost/Dark, it's just a doll at the end of the day and poor Sableye needs to keep his job.
    it would also make Phoebe a little harder. her starttegy makes more sense as part the endurance test aspect of the league, but today averyone preserves all ether's just for the league, eliminating any worry she may present.

    • @ultimapower6950
      @ultimapower6950 Рік тому

      Ah big pharma. Every E4 members worst-best frenemy

  • @TheICombaticon
    @TheICombaticon Рік тому +155

    Oh I have been LOVING the extra narrative bits that have been creeping into these more recent installments in this series. That endgame twist especially got me.
    At this point it doesn't even matter what mon ever comes next because I know I'm gonna find whatever comes to be super compelling. Take whatever time you need on these.

    • @clanedogg1
      @clanedogg1 Рік тому +8

      Totally agree. The tiny narrative care taken just to contextualise the other team members and the “theme” of the team tying it back to the protagonist pokemon you’re improving make these videos so compelling. The channel really stands out against anything else on YT. Keep it up!

    • @user-qs1ez1ko5f
      @user-qs1ez1ko5f Рік тому +2

      Couldn't agree with these comments more

    • @JaharNarishma
      @JaharNarishma 8 місяців тому

      The least liked starter was something I didn't catch until Batman. After that, the theme was obvious and absolute. Even the Lonely Nature of the traded Shuppet fit.

  • @liamaldrich2476
    @liamaldrich2476 Рік тому +13

    If Pokemon UA-cam had a "Rookie Of The Year" award, you would easily have my vote and its not a narrow margin. Great series, fantastic episode as always.

  • @toppo8091
    @toppo8091 Рік тому +23

    Your ability to incorporate Shuppets Pokédex entry into an in-game trade, make it make sense, and still give the Pokémon a sense of rarity is amazing. Given how you can balance Pokémon so well, I would love to see a rom hack or fan game with you behind it!
    Edit: Seeing the Brawly fight sequence was hilarious. Bringing a perfect counter only to have an annoying interaction: This is what the RPG’s have been missing for years.

  • @bortzanator3018
    @bortzanator3018 Рік тому +133

    Dude. The production value, thought, care, storytelling... its all top notch.

  • @riastarthay
    @riastarthay Рік тому +42

    Your changes ideas are already consistently fantastic, but the way you take the narrative flavor of the changes you've made and build an entire in-game plotline out of those themes, with teammates that support the themes and with literal character arcs and everything is just over the top. Another banger like always.

  • @jackofspades4000
    @jackofspades4000 Рік тому +19

    I absolutely adore how you give each Pokémon a plot line and arc. The story telling is so fun and I get so invested in all of the Mons. You do an incredible job

  • @northsouteastwesk3435
    @northsouteastwesk3435 Рік тому +27

    The way you right a script is just top notch- i didn't even notice banabbelle's OT was Wallace so color me surprised when it was time to face the champion oh my god 😂

  • @carlossantana9645
    @carlossantana9645 Рік тому +23

    Ok, that was an awesome run. It's incredible how much of a difference Synchonize and Revenge made, and the narrative was so hype leading up to that final battle. Just amazing.
    I aggree with others that Ghost/Normal would have been more interesting, but the Dark type definitely mattered here.
    I hope you get around to fix Magcargo, nothing about that pokemon makes sense. Defense is its highest stat by far yet the pokedex states that its shell would crumble just by touching it. Which is ironic because said shell, by giving it the Rock type, actually makes it worse defensively. And let's not talk about how a Pokemon that evaporates rain on contact is 4x weak to Water. That's just tragic.

  • @Ten_Thousand_Locusts
    @Ten_Thousand_Locusts Рік тому +4

    Dude the underlying narrative in these videos just keeps getting better.

  • @PuppetSquid
    @PuppetSquid 6 місяців тому +2

    I know the disobedience was a mistake, but its absolutely perfect. Sure, you can trade for a pokemon that will absolutely rinse the second gym, but it also wont trust you until you finish that gym.

  • @chaosbug7
    @chaosbug7 Рік тому +32

    It's a good day to see Banette shine in a playthrough with minimal changes. Dark typing along with Revenge & giving it actual Ghost stab early enough was exactly what Banette needed along with earlier availability. In most games, Banette comes way too late to pull its weight, so I'm glad the in-game trade was used here. For the Shuppet line, a trade was a fantastic flavor call.

  • @Hydraina
    @Hydraina Рік тому +14

    This is literally the coolest! I'm absolutely obsessed with Banabelle and the story she told! I ADORE your storytelling that you incorporate into the gameplay run-throughs! It makes them so much more interesting than any other run through UA-camr I've ever seen!

  • @EbuCallinav
    @EbuCallinav Рік тому +4

    On my Ultra Sun I made Banette a Normal/Ghost type.
    Stat wise I gave him +5 to HP and +10 to Def and SpD
    For coverage moves I gave him Fake-Out and quick attack as early attack moves and Return as a late attack move.
    Per your video, I also gave him Revenge, and moved his evolution down to Lv.28
    I also added him in the first graveyard as well.
    You and Woop have great idea's for pokemon changes and I've been implementing many of them in my hack.

  • @antlerboylive
    @antlerboylive Рік тому +3

    You have an excellent channel! Love to see it :)

    • @ZenModeYT
      @ZenModeYT  Рік тому +1

      Hey thank you man, that means a lot!

  • @666blaziken
    @666blaziken Рік тому +2

    The child you developed in your head cannon is actually more hatable than Mindy.

  • @appelofdoom8211
    @appelofdoom8211 Рік тому +59

    Banette has always been a favorite of mine they really need to make some mons more available.
    Also if you're taking suggestions. Patrat needs a buff it's bad even by early normal standards and is found around the same time as Lilipup which is just so much better.

    • @MaxBurnHeart
      @MaxBurnHeart Рік тому +14

      Truee, Patrat/Watchog is an ideal topic.
      First of all, there's literally zero reason to use Patrat when Lillipup has exactly the same availability, but it's straight-up better.
      What's the point of Patrat, anyway? No, I'm serious- what is even the point? Lillipup would be perfectly fine as the only pure normal first route pokemon. Seems like we really needed an early game rodent in a brand-new region that was supposed to be a soft reboot. At least Zigzagoon and Poochyena have different typing and serve different purposes.
      Heck, Watchog is remembered only because of Lenora.
      Is that why Patrat is not available in any pokemon game on switch? Not counting Unova, the only other region and THE last time we could catch it was in Kalos. As a Watchog in route 15, which is like after the 5th badge. Long after it could have any use. Just... why.
      If I could pick any rodent pokemon that needs help- it's easily the Patrat line.

    • @rjante2236
      @rjante2236 Рік тому +12

      @@MaxBurnHeart Patrat does get access to Hypnosis early, which is... nice, I guess? Too bad Herdier can just click Take Down and murder everything.

    • @turtier
      @turtier Рік тому +7

      @@MaxBurnHeart It seems like patrat / watchog were intended to be used as good pokemon for catching other pokemon. Illuminate ability, hypnosis, super fang, mean look for trapping roaming legendaries... you know... the mechanic that (besides bdsp) never came back after bw1 (not even bw2)... doesn't get false swipe...
      Jokes aside yeah its not even the best mon for catching other mons but it still does kinda do alright in that role, I've seen it get used by shiny hunters too. Even despite that, it is a shame that its right next to Lillipup. It still does kinda differentiate itself since it gets some good status / support moves, even gets baton pass. So Stoutland is the standard pick for dealing damage, and Watchog is the weird status and support alternative. Although I could still see the need for a rework that makes it better in that role.

    • @MaxBurnHeart
      @MaxBurnHeart Рік тому +1

      @@turtier Oh yeah, forgot about its utility as a catcher pokemon. That's a useful niche, although people don't care about it in a regular playthrough.
      Still, yeah- it needs a rework. A big one. It's nice that it has a lot of status and support moves, but that alone is not enough. The difference between Patrat and Lillipup should be far more visible. As rjante2236 said, it's just better to use Take Down on Herdier. It cannot compete with the Lillipup line, as Stoutland is designed to be good even in the late game (I heard the solo Lillipup line run is the current best strategy for BW speedruns, which should tell a lot), while Watchog is supposed to be good until like early midgame.
      But what can one do? Buff stats? Add new typing? Maybe a new ability? Yeah, the ability would be a nice start, as its two basic abilities are doing basically the same thing, except the other helps with catching gimmicks and could annoy casual players. I don't see any other way to change, as my other solutions would change Watchog way too much. I guess it would be best to go with a solution similar to the Skitty line.

    • @ultimaterecoil1136
      @ultimaterecoil1136 Рік тому

      Patrat’s above average by early game normal standards if only by the virtue of return being gotten after the first gym. It’s no ratticate or lilipup but anything with an over 100 bp stab before gym 2 is fine. Also baton pass gives it actual significant usability late against the ghost elite 4 the psychic elite 4 everyone’s favorite fictional parent grimsley assuming you’ve specifically gotten evd for bulk and even enabling sweeps vs Cynthia quite easily ( if anything it’s better for post game by virtue of this alone then lilipup but lilpup’s still better when exploring the world normally on the main story). You’d be happy to have any normal type that early with the return tm that early in a nuzlocke. Patrat’s honestly better then the starters in black white 2 except arguably tepig

  • @ColonelMustache
    @ColonelMustache Рік тому +7

    I wish more Pokemon had a bigger variety of type coverage via level-up moves, it's always exciting to get an out-there move that isn't just Normal or one of the Pokemon's types. Sudowoodo, for example, can learn Wood Hammer, Hammer Arm, and Sucker Punch (albeit you might need heart scales, depending). All of them have a fun logic to them that makes sense with the Pokemon's lore, and offers some variety to its moveset instead of just being Rock and Normal moves. So giving Revenge to Banette makes perfect sense, I like it a lot.

  • @SlowForest
    @SlowForest Рік тому +1

    42:06 ERRMM AKSHUALLYYYY Relicanth as a species is so good at not getting extinct that it remained unchanged for 100 million years. The pokedex refers to it as a "perfect life-form" and a "living fossil".

  • @sheahon1179
    @sheahon1179 Рік тому +6

    Excellent video! I love how useful Bannette is. Those small but significant changes have really been exceptionally useful and all added to be super useful!

  • @codynelson7575
    @codynelson7575 Рік тому +42

    I think castform is emerald would be great, it would be a challenge because of how late you get it in the game, but it would be fun

    • @Julio_Cezar1604
      @Julio_Cezar1604 Рік тому +1

      or in BW cause there is a weather center right after driftveil

  • @gelatinousglob8521
    @gelatinousglob8521 Рік тому +15

    Amazing video like always!! But 17:16, Frustration is available by TM in Generation 2 and in Generation 3 also. And Return is a repeatable TM (you can get it every Sunday)

  • @nicobirdd
    @nicobirdd Рік тому +19

    Chatot in Gen 4 might be good! I love Chatot and I use it in every Sinnoh playthrough but Staraptor outshines it easily. I would love to see how it could be reworked for more utility!

  • @gwynhwyfar1321
    @gwynhwyfar1321 Рік тому +4

    I loved this one so much! Especially the narrative that you created around little Bannabelle. The end actually made me somewhat emotional... happy that the resentful and hurt doll finally found some closure and a "family" of its own.
    Your videos are always a joy to watch! Looking forward to the next one. And take your time.

  • @bubbasully15
    @bubbasully15 Рік тому +1

    You’ve joined the same rank as summoning salt and jon bois in my opinion. A “drop everything for their hour-long video” UA-camr. Absolutely phenomenal, keep it up.

  • @aglowkeys
    @aglowkeys Рік тому +1

    Omg that Wallace plot twist wtf 😱😱😱
    Great video as always, glad you're back!

  • @WeedleTwineedle
    @WeedleTwineedle Рік тому +222

    Happy to see a new upload, love Bannete it's sad that it's so weak for how sick of a design it has

    • @amethyst6531
      @amethyst6531 Рік тому +17

      I think about your Mega Banette Huge Power + Prankster Skill Seap Azumarill set all the time

  • @riastarthay
    @riastarthay Рік тому +116

    These are not fantastic moves, but I think Pin Missile and Cotton Spore could be good for Banette's character as well

    • @frostbitex23
      @frostbitex23 Рік тому +56

      Needles used to sew the puppet together and Cotton Spore to represent stuffing of stuffed toys? I think that sounds awesome.

    • @Yfighter2
      @Yfighter2 Рік тому +22

      Would love Cotton Guard if it was available too

    • @guest-1564
      @guest-1564 3 місяці тому

      ​@@frostbitex23Not just that, but Pin Missile also references the pins used in voodoo dolls and poppets!

  • @shadowmarauder6033
    @shadowmarauder6033 Рік тому +7

    The idea of Shuppet as an in-game trade is not just a good concept lore-wise, but also since all Hoenn games have honestly very bad trades.

    • @youtube-kit9450
      @youtube-kit9450 Рік тому +5

      Yeah, no clue why gens 3 and 4 have so few and bad/mediocre at best trades.

  • @DanielVictorDVZero
    @DanielVictorDVZero Рік тому +2

    Milotic was born in a wealthy, depraved bohemian cradle. No wonder such a narcissistic Pokémon would try to attack others with Toxic: it's projecting its own insecurities onto others in form of poison.

  • @noblewolves3142
    @noblewolves3142 Рік тому +5

    Okay not only are you consistently really good at making changes to Pokémon to make them viable but not too good like a Pseudo, but what truly stood out this time was your storytelling. I was hooked and only grew more invested. I felt catharsis when Banny met Wallace and crit Wailord and then Synchronized toxic on Milotic. Incredible work as usual.

  • @GreyDuovis
    @GreyDuovis Рік тому +4

    4am thought: in later generations shuppet encounters could be triggered by checking trash cans in haunted buildings.
    Great video as all ways. Hard to say if the trend started here before, but ive seen these kinds of videos on the rise since I first saw yours, and you definitely had a big impact on a new type of video i love! I also think you do a particularly great job with them. Looking forward to the next one!

  • @infint9939
    @infint9939 Рік тому +6

    What a great pokemon to choice for spooky months.
    The reasoning for the new level up move, ability, typing you gave are so well thought out and fitting. Amazing work!

  • @Duckofawesome
    @Duckofawesome Рік тому +1

    This storyline reminded me a lot of ash/paul's chimchar from the dpp anime, which is a good thing because that arc is peak 👌
    Great video, looking forward to more!

  • @NyancyCat
    @NyancyCat Рік тому +2

    This is the second of your videos I've watched now, and it's covering an interesting topic that I've sort of butted up against myself - I've done a few (friend/software-assisted) later gen runs where I plan a team from eggs and use them from level 1 as a team, and...a lot of pokemon really just *are not* built for that. For all their flaws, the switch games make it much easier to get a run going with *anyone*, both from an availability *and* usability standpoint.
    I really need to get back to doing those runs, honestly.

  • @puffypuff3144
    @puffypuff3144 Рік тому +3

    personally I'd put the trade in Slateport or Mauville, still possible before Brawly if you're cheeky. Still early enough to be useful, would still allow Ruby players to get a Ghost type other than shedinja before Mt. Pyre, but would be healthily deep in the game to not spur a ghost on the player when almost every enemy is still using Normal moves
    That last part is something that's important to consider when distributing Pokemon; rock, steel and ghost types are extremely powerful early game because most pokemon start with normal or sometimes poison moves, which these three types all resist.

  • @DUKEHadToDoItToEm
    @DUKEHadToDoItToEm Рік тому +36

    So far this is the first "how I would fix" that I disagree with. Making Banette Ghost/Dark dual type really invalidates Sableye ever being used, who was arguably just as bad if not worse in gen 3 imo
    Still, great videos, love the passion you clearly have and the effort you put into editing. As usual can't wait for the next one

    • @kimotokirby1601
      @kimotokirby1601 Рік тому +8

      yeah but sableye isn't used for the same things tho, the ONLY reason sableye is used is cuz of prankster, so for emerald specificaly, it works.
      Now, if we consider later gens then maybe ghost normal would be better, but for emerald, it works.

    • @xLoadez
      @xLoadez Рік тому +7

      ghost/dark fits Banette more than Sabeleye imo

    • @MorningStar012
      @MorningStar012 Рік тому +10

      ​@@xLoadezi don't even know why Sableye is Ghost/Dark
      he barely looks like he belongs in either, let alone both

    • @DUKEHadToDoItToEm
      @DUKEHadToDoItToEm Рік тому +14

      @@MorningStar012 I agree with both of you and think he would've been a decent candidate for the first ghost/rock dual type just because he gets power gem a gen or two later, but as kimoto said he eventually found a niche to fill with Prankster
      Still doesn't change the fact that he's pretty much trash in gen 3, and 4 for that matter. Especially if Banette takes away the one thing that made Sableye unique gen 3. Gen 4 Nintendo took that away and gave it to Spiritomb, which again made Sableye obsolete.
      Poor little guy was mistreated pretty bad in the early days imo and might deserve a "how I would fix" video of his own

    • @iqhmalRedux
      @iqhmalRedux Рік тому +3

      ​@@DUKEHadToDoItToEm Gen 1 to Gen 3 ghost types other than the Gengar line needs help honestly. There should be more gen 4 evolutions for these ghost types because they desperately needed it

  • @francescganau7679
    @francescganau7679 Рік тому +12

    Banette in Nuzlockes is usually a Shadow Ball machine against Tate & Liza. It KOes a couple of mons, it dies, but it usually prevents you from wiping to those nasty Calm Minders

    • @rushxanthemtcg5607
      @rushxanthemtcg5607 Рік тому

      Or you could just use literally any dark type. You also forget ghost types get hit by psychic hard af

  • @NickWuebker
    @NickWuebker Рік тому +2

    Zen Mode, I discovered your channel recently and love what you do here. I instantly subscribed after watching just a couple of your videos.
    As for your venture into Unova, that should be interesting, as there are quite a few Pokémon in Unova who can use a bit of fixing. Two who come to mind that most people might not think of right off are Munna and Purrloin.
    Both are Pokémon you can get relatively early in game, Munna in the Dreamyard and Purrloin as early as Route 2. Their evolved forms are both solid Pokémon that just get outclassed by other Unova Pokémon of the same type.
    Musharna by Gothitelle, Sigylph, and Reuniclus. And Liepard by Bisharp and Krookodile. Both would make for really interesting and fun fix videos.

  • @mattdeluccia153
    @mattdeluccia153 Рік тому +4

    Another great vid man. I love that Shuppet doesn’t obey you at 1st, fits the Pokédex lore perfect

  • @Kurooganeko
    @Kurooganeko Рік тому +2

    The old guy falling asleep and still wins HUSHAUHSAUHSUAHSUA GREAT CONCEPT!!!

  • @Meese12
    @Meese12 10 місяців тому +1

    What's REALLY evil about ghost pre-split is that shadow ball, a physical move, STILL LOWERED SPECIAL DEFENSE!

  • @K713channel
    @K713channel Рік тому +1

    Had to pause to comment 53:30 because that was incredible! That’s what I love in a good Pokémon story. Excellent writing contributes to once a play through chances like this

  • @scampystuffs
    @scampystuffs Рік тому +1

    This is maybe a little too trauma-dumpy, but as a lesbian who was rejected when I came out to my mom, I absolutely loved the little story you told with Banny finding a family she belongs in. I even got a little emotional at the end, it was so sweet 🥺

  • @wowallthosemovies
    @wowallthosemovies Рік тому +2

    I really like the odd team compositions that you come up with, they work surprisingly both narratively and gameplay wise. Great job!

  • @shiny1556
    @shiny1556 Рік тому +2

    There is one thing I would have really loved and that would be Banette’s final level up move (say in the 60s) would be Return.
    This is solely for story purposes, because no matter if you traded for it or caught one in the wild, you still have to put in a good amount of time to hit that point. By then I fully see Banette mellowing a bit, still hateful but slowly finding a new happiness. It may not have any practical use in gameplay but you cannot deny it is cute in a way.

  • @joannochman8594
    @joannochman8594 Рік тому +3

    I would love to see a how I would fix Tropius!

  • @willcooper8028
    @willcooper8028 Рік тому +2

    I think zen mode might make for the greatest dungeon master of all time

  • @FrostFoxChick
    @FrostFoxChick Рік тому

    Absolute banger as always. This might be my favorite pokémon series on UA-cam!

  • @user-qs1ez1ko5f
    @user-qs1ez1ko5f Рік тому

    after binging all your videos I can say that the quality of your videos and playthroughs is getting exponentially better over time, so take your time to make what you wanna make, I love it

  • @Jens_Gram
    @Jens_Gram Рік тому

    It has ben an absolute joy to watch your re-imaginings and trial runs for these often overlooked Pokemon.
    Even if the move Frustration/Return re available in gen 3 it's great to experience how much you choose to utilize forgotten moves like Revenge. Restraining yourself from using Shadow Ball as the default option when Shadow Punch makes so much more sense from a narrative perspective and utilizing Thunderbolt for Wallace and his team is just the icing on the cake for diverse move options.
    Keep up the great work, it has become a priority to watch your videos whenever I have the time for it :]

  • @matjepson2192
    @matjepson2192 Рік тому +2

    This came out about 2 weeks after I started seeing Baynette as one of my favorite Pokemon. Nice timing.

  • @cestariviere
    @cestariviere Рік тому

    omg why your production, script and execution with context makes so emotional??? I was crying at the end of the video 😭🌦️ great video, as usual :')

  • @poppinpineapples3481
    @poppinpineapples3481 Рік тому +1

    The trade idea is so smart! That feels so perfect for shuppet

  • @nibbletman
    @nibbletman Рік тому

    Love the way you built the narrative around the whole team this time. Really enjoyed the mix of theorycrafting and storytelling.

  • @cashcloakburmy
    @cashcloakburmy Рік тому +5

    Banette really isn’t bad in gen 3, when considering its use in-game. You severely underrate its TM movepool; Will-O-Wisp is amazing on anything, and Thunderbolt and Psychic are fine with a base Special Attack of 83. There are better options, yes, but there are also MUCH worse ones.
    I do like these changes though, even if I think Ghost/Dark steps on Sableye’s toes. Revenge is a sick option for it, and Synchronize is nifty. I would personally add Glare in the mid-20s to enable it to outspeed things.

  • @faletepower694
    @faletepower694 Рік тому +7

    The only thing I don't exactly agree is the typing and maybe the location (this one for purely gameplay purposes, I'd like to not use trades) but nontheless it's really interesting. I'm making a personal project on Pokémon Emerald to rebalance it and fix some weak mons and this Banette video gave me some cool ideas. I love your channel, keep up the good work!

    • @jazzercise300
      @jazzercise300 Рік тому +1

      I wouldn't mind trades if it didn't lock nicknames. I never nickname my pokemon tbh unless I use a trade mon (Makit the Makuhita in hoenn, Thumper the Steelix in kalos)

    • @Everlarke
      @Everlarke Рік тому +1

      It does feel like Sableye is completely overshadowed with these changes, yes.

  • @Firescizor
    @Firescizor Рік тому +3

    Good changes overall for Shuppet/Banette. I really like when ROM Hacks get creative with this Pokémon, as I feel it is one of the Ghosts more deserving of a secondary typing. I enjoy Ghost/Dark, it makes sense thematically and fits especially well on Mega Banette's design, with all the dark energy seeping through the doll's costures. I just dislike that another Pokémon on the generation already sjares this type with it (Sableye). Another option I really really enjoy is Ghost/Normal, which reinforces the feeling of this being a normal doll turned into an evil possessed being. It fits more thematically then design-wise, but it's an extremely flavourful change for this Pokémon. Anyway, there's a huge room for improvement with Banette. So, I'm really glad to see this video and the changes you did to it paying off!
    I'm once again gonna put my two cents into HGSS Natu being one of the Pokémon we can look into next. It has an abismal learnset and movepool (the first Psychic type damaging move it gets is like at level 40 or something...) and I think it's more than deserving of earlier availability (by bringing the grass patches in the Ruins of Alph to an earlier section, around Falkner) and a moveset overview 💪

    • @Firescizor
      @Firescizor Рік тому +2

      PS: the decision to change the in-game trade was not only in-character, but also a far, far cry in uniqueness and utility from its previous iteration (which I think was a Makuhita... or a Seedot). I also want to add that the decision of including Revenge in the learnset surprised me at first (it feels like such a typical Fighting-type Pokémon exclusive move), but then I looked into the list of Pokémon that get Revenge and there's really weird crap there like Qwilfish and Stunfisk, therefore, I have no qualms about it.

  • @korinoriz
    @korinoriz Рік тому +2

    Major nitpick, but I can see Knock Off being used by Pokemon without hands as, in Shuppet's case, them ramming their body against the opponent and knocking off their item.. Excellent video though. Love the trade idea!

  • @cheeselasagna5341
    @cheeselasagna5341 Рік тому +5

    Personally I would've made Banette and Shuppet ghost/normal even though it makes slightly less sense thematically but you could argue it could be normal type because it's made of cloth. Normal allows Banette to use both it's STAB's physically and is still a great defensive typing. Another change I would've made is giving it intimidate as well because it also fits thematically and allows Banette to switch in on even more physical hits. The final change I would make along with yours is putting some of its speed into Hp, Defence and Special Defense (More Defense and Hp) along with raising its BST slightly because giving it more than 20 more BST spread overall wouldn't really help anyway. (I do get your reasoning for not doing changing BST though)

  • @tortoiseknight8438
    @tortoiseknight8438 Рік тому +1

    The final battle was cinema

  • @lancelotgaming5648
    @lancelotgaming5648 Рік тому

    honestly the little stories relating to the mons you improve really tie all of these vids together well

  • @reptosivianlizard786
    @reptosivianlizard786 Рік тому +1

    The GOAT has uploaded! Already made my day

  • @abrafo1891
    @abrafo1891 11 місяців тому +1

    I honestly love these videos! Keep it up! I always immediately click when i see one.

  • @hopeburnett8313
    @hopeburnett8313 Рік тому

    Omg the perfect pokemon for the spooky season! I loved seeing the changes that you made, and the storytelling was absolutely impeccable! The twist! Wow!
    Thanks for the awesome video! :D

  • @hfdopamine
    @hfdopamine Рік тому +1

    I really enjoy your videos and you got plenty of great ideas !!
    Sadly, for once i have to disagree: being a Ghost/Dark type is very strong and kinda legit yeah, but that was THE thing of Sableye, the main thing that define itself (for me). Upgrading and giving justice to a pokemon is good, but taking the place of another one isn't :/
    (but all the other things like Revenge and stuffs were very good, congrats)

  • @Miksolo
    @Miksolo Рік тому

    Sometimes these videos start with ideas I wholly dosagree with, but I end up being fully convinced they SHOULD be canon by the end. Well done.

  • @loudwhispre9406
    @loudwhispre9406 Рік тому

    This is perfect for Halloween, really great video as usual! Also don't think I didn't catch this comment at 12:30. Don't worry, because we love hearing you talk too.

  • @KuutinKujeet
    @KuutinKujeet Рік тому +1

    I'm really liking these narratives you implement into these runs :)
    My suggestion for a future video would be Surskit, hope to see that one day!
    Loving the content and looking forward to the next one, keep it up!

  • @theflashfan3234
    @theflashfan3234 Рік тому

    Let's. Fucking. GO.
    I was afraid you'd stopped uploading (right as I discovered your amazing channel too). So happy to see you just taking your time to make the best content possible.

  • @miclipscountry
    @miclipscountry Рік тому

    I like how these videos went from just buffing a Pokémon and then using it into a whole themed team with stories behind each Pokémon.

  • @Tony_AM009
    @Tony_AM009 Рік тому

    So happy to see Banette getting a video! Back in the HG/SS days, I noticed the way Banette looked outside of its Ball while following its trainer. To me, it looked like Banette was creepily following us, which I liked. Neat to see that the Banette run is being done in Emerald rather than Omega Ruby or Alpha Sapphire, considering then it would have access to Mega Evolution and adding Cotton Guard to its level-up move pool.
    Making it a Ghost/Dark type was a good idea. I love the story you gave Banette in this video as well as the idea of a Shuppet being available early on via an in-game trade. Revenge is also a great idea for its move pool. It's a shame that it never had access to that attack.
    It looks like Electrode and Relicanth would be good candidates for future videos.
    For Gen 5, I really hope that some Pokémon that you make videos for(even if it's not the next one you hinted at) are Maractus, Sawsbuck, and Heatmor. Those are honestly some of my favorites to use in-game in Unova, and it's a shame that they don't get the love and attention that others do.

  • @Cofri176
    @Cofri176 Рік тому +1

    Finally some love for Banette! Its what Gamefreak never did... Ok I know mega Banette existed but even that was a cruel Joke

  • @MaxBurnHeart
    @MaxBurnHeart Рік тому +4

    It's been a while since the last video!
    Honestly, not a bad idea. Giving Banette a second type is the only way to differentiate it from other ghosts. But I don't like giving it a dark type, as ghost/dark completely invalidates any usefulness of Sableye. After all, why would you catch Sableye if Shuppet does the same things, and Banette does them better? No, I'd rather give Banette ghost/normal type, to give another meaning for that abandoned doll part. It differentiates it from Sableye, and gives it another very cool niche that we wouldn't have until Hisuian Zoroark's introduction. A ghost type that can't be hit by other ghosts, gets STAB from return/frustration (btw, frustration was a thing since gen 2). Only upsides to this.
    I like learnset suggestions, though. Revenge is an amazing fit, I don't know how it doesn't learn it even in gen 9.

  • @himbojenkins
    @himbojenkins Рік тому

    You are becoming my favorite UA-camr. Making my beloved under valued pokemon have chance in the spotlight makes mw smile.

  • @owenK1100
    @owenK1100 Рік тому

    I will never get tired of these, actually genius idea

  • @leofrank6864
    @leofrank6864 Рік тому

    You do amazing work. I have thoroughly enjoyed every video put out so far.

  • @bennconner1195
    @bennconner1195 Рік тому +1

    It was decent in gen 3 because it was one of the few ghost types that could take advantage of stab shadow ball.

  • @Werelord22
    @Werelord22 Рік тому +1

    YES NEW ZEN MODE VIDEO I LOVE THIS CONTENT 🎉

  • @tarkusvontortellini1877
    @tarkusvontortellini1877 Рік тому

    Omg a 1 hour video deep dive on a single underappreciated Pokémon? LETS GO

  • @benthomas2458
    @benthomas2458 Рік тому

    Your videos are brilliant. Either element of them would be incredibly watchable on their own: the assessment and redesign of pokemon, and the narrative that you weave through the run. These are always going to be first on the watch list when they release

  • @saltytyranitar6981
    @saltytyranitar6981 Рік тому

    Another fantastic overhaul. Always look forward to seeing these vids coming out

  • @ethancole1584
    @ethancole1584 Рік тому

    Man, that was an awesomely genius playthrough story! I hope to see and hear more.

  • @Isabelle-mp8rk
    @Isabelle-mp8rk Рік тому +2

    the one issue i have with making banette ghost/dark and available so early on is it will directly compete with sableye, it is worse in all stats than sableye as a shuppet and better in almost all as banette so there is a niche there in long term use, but i still find it a shame.

  • @emilyrakov2340
    @emilyrakov2340 Рік тому

    This was a lovely video as always. I loved the storytelling additions!

  • @fairdot
    @fairdot Рік тому +1

    Brilliant video, always look forward to these. I hope you enjoy making them! If you're ever feeling some creative-burn-out, I'm certain you can pivot to a different topic of video and still create masterpieces with all the transferable storytelling & video production skills you've honed from this series. All the best to you :)

  • @Eric6761
    @Eric6761 Рік тому +1

    I personally would add Return as a move since it would be like Bannete actually having a liking towards you and even if it's not totally moving on for revenge Bannete acknowledges you as a friend

  • @IdkDontCare123
    @IdkDontCare123 Рік тому +1

    Instantly clicked. Your videos are fantastic!

  • @machadragonii145
    @machadragonii145 Рік тому

    I was so hyped to see you finally return and this was a great video for spooky season

  • @roamingnyiad
    @roamingnyiad Рік тому

    Other than the Frustration goof, love what you did for Banette in this vid. It's a shame to hear summer was not too kind to you, but I'm just glad to see you back.
    So...Black and White the ORIGINAL, huh? Wonder what that entails.

  • @draconiskittensweetie9765
    @draconiskittensweetie9765 Рік тому

    This was SO good. These videos really helped me see into movesets from pokemon as somethinf I can, you know, think about instead of just accept. And i love the narratives you write! A lot of technical channels like this one is wouldnt make auch a fun and compelling narrative to go along with thir playtest, and ai love that you do. It's engaging and what I do when I play pokemon lol! Ignore these typos

  • @dark_emperor_2nd642
    @dark_emperor_2nd642 Рік тому

    I think it's hilarious that Phoebe now has more Mons without a weakness than ones who have any.
    Good Video, i liked the storytelling. Keep up the good work.

  • @LaserGlow
    @LaserGlow Рік тому +1

    It really is a shame that even by modern gen standards, its movepool has not improved nearly as much as other Pokemon who were also present in Gen 3, Scarlet and Violet gave it Swords Dance though which is at least something, I guess? Massive shame as Banette is one of my favourite Gen 3 Pokemon and it feels so neglected, so much so it wasn't even added into Sword and Shield.