Guys . . . guess what? When you were at the very top of the mountain at the cliffs, you were at the royal burials. There are over a hundred hand dug tombs up there. The openings are sealed with quarried rocks laid with clay mortar. The mortar was plastered with green, white and red stucco . . . but the designs are no longer discernible. The snake effigy is just to the north of the lower plaza of the acropolis. Oh, I and I am an architect-city planner . . . not an archaeologist. Seriously doubt that most of the Georgia archaeologists, I have encountered would even have had the SAT scores to get into Georgia Tech's College of Architecture. LOL They certainly don't know about our (Creek Indians) cultural history. Good job . . . like all the humor.
Wow I wish we would have known that about the Royal Burial spots. We would have spent more time investigating up there. Going up that hill again though... oh man I'm out of breath just thinking about it. haha We want to go back and try to film more in the future and find the snake effigy. We couldn't believe how massive of a site it was and how no one seems to know about it, or cares to investigate it. For some reason I thought I heard you were an Archeologist(Maybe I heard Architect and my brain said Archeologist) sorry for the mix up. You might as well be though with the research and studying you have done on the History of the Indians, and this site. It looks like the Academic community would be all over this. Your doing what they should be and in my book that makes you the real deal and a Pioneer. Thanks for paving a way for the rest of us amigo.
It doesn't take an educated idiot with a station wagon full of PHDs or a cool misleading name to realize the Creeks living in the Southeast of the United States were influence by peoples from that came from central Americas. The Cherokee would never have made it close to the Tennessee River and into North Georgia in the early to mid 1700s if it wasn't for English settlers and their Carolina militias. The copper plate viewed during time frames 0:42 to 0:46 was found in Cartersville, Georgia at the Etowah Mounds and that was made by the Mississippian culture, a Muscogee and later known as Creek people. A person would have to be blind as a ding bat if they could not notice that piece was influenced by Native people from the central Americas. I am also sure You never heard of the Buzzard Cult or at least the Bird or Spider Cult/Clan that lived in the mountains and foothill of North Georgia and the western Carolines. Then again that what happens to someone that depends on their state/Federal government financed public school education or lack there of. What gets me is there were archaeologists like Dr Joseph Mahan that knew more about the Native people without digging a spoon of dirt and stepping on one leave than those today that have move tons and lost mountains.
Good info. Thanks for sharing it. My grandmother in my mom's side had a lot of Creek in her. We have a lot of history of the Creek and Cherokee here in Cedartown GA. It would be really neat to find some tombs like that around here. Thanks again for sharing y'alls info.
I live Rome, Georgia and I got a rock wall that looks just like that rock wall in the woods on my property. It is mostly buried in the ground. It goes for quite a ways in the woods. There is no telling what is beneath our feet.
I've always been really curious about how many mounds are across Georgia, that most people don't know about. There is one off Ga 334 in Jackson County, by a creek.
@Dr. Zivago Oh so Europeans invaded America & constructed thousands of thousand year old mounds and now you're owed the land that you STOLE. 😂 Wow yea sound about white. Always stealing someone else's very existence. Smdh
@@TheeGoddessQUEEN Wow your ignorance is so amazing.. it's literally entertainment. You do realize even people of African descent stole other people's land that were on it..you know the thing called conquest...idiot. Second off its not only white people..you ever heard of Genghis Khan and how he did it all throughout the middle East and Central Asia all the way into China..not white at all... Or how about more recently when former slaves got sent to Liberia and they killed the native population and created their own government and their minority and just in the past 30 years have the indigenous people actually taken over the government..yes that wasn't white people either .. go get an education moron
@@jthrasher47 no bxtch ignorance is you even remotely agreeing with anything that commenter said. I know history very well & all that comes with conquering lands but no where in history has the conquerors claimed the work of the conquered as much as you & your ancestors. I mean seriously do you see the Spanish saying they built the Mayan pyramids & they were the real Egyptians⁉️ 🤣🤣🤣I'm so happy you got all worked up behind my comment sulking in your white guilt it's hilarious❗🤣🤣🤣
@@jthrasher47 And you know what about those so called former slaves who actually made a choice to go to Africa & not got sent like you said as if they had no choice you know that's your ppls fault as well. Bcuz had your ppl told the TRUTH that they weren't from Africa & actually were enslaved here on their own land they wouldn't have went somewhere & caused havoc on the natives of Liberia & Sierra Leona places where they should've been accepted had they actually been brought from there just 1 maybe 2 generations removed. Tsk tsk tsk. Also fyi Asians & white ppl have the closest dna of all races so technically Ghengis Khan was a white man I mean since you want to be technical Mr. Caucus Mountain asian hence caucasian. -Have a nice day!
@@TheeGoddessQUEEN But hey thanks for addressing my original response.. which you didn't..you know the one where I proved everything you said as complete BS because every single race under the sun was doing it and it's not just one people fault.. I like how you totally avoided that.. That's funny and you try to paint somebody with white guilt.. you know I could be African-American, could be Latino,could be why could be Asian for all you know you don't shit. The thing is it doesn't matter what color you are what matters is you can't change the past but you can change the future and the USA is the best place on the freaking planet where black people and every other single color people have a better chance to make it than any other place but yet instead of grasping that people like you want to live in the past . When you have every opportunity and more given right to you and even more than other races due to minority scholarships.. it really must suck to live so miserable... You need to watch a little bit more Brandon Tatum, listen to Candace Owens and others ... I hope you find peace one day but it doesn't seem like you will And you proved yourself wrong again because you do not know anything about history.. the people from Liberia we're very aware they were former slaves ... It was largely due to the work of the American colonization society... Which included many former slaves as members. but hey let's just ignore that fact so we can make excuses for ourselves again ☺️😉😉. Or how about like I said in Chicagowhere I seen it with my own two eyes where our people are killing each other for no reason at all.. slavery has absolutely nothing to do with it.. or white people because it's got a black mayor and has been democrat-controlled for the past 30 years.. it's time you wake up and I hope you do.. you can't live in the past but you can try to stop the hate that you are spreading now
Yeah sorry Nicholas this video is from when we first started making videos. It is from a lame Gimbal that we were filming with. We had talked about going back out there and reshooting this spot for that very reason. I think you would be glad to know we threw that specific gimbal off a cliff haha -Nate | Au
Read what it is, above my comment. But, it sounds like tapping from a lens cover to me. I have to be conscious of that when I shoot videos with my small camera. Though the tapping was a little annoying, I'm glad y'all didn't re-shoot the video, cause originals are *always* best, to me. Thanks for the info - never knew there was such a place in Georgia!!!
The weekend after I got my drivers license back in 1979 I drove up to this sight to check it out!! There is more to the story than we know for sure!! An amazing place and experience!!
I need to make y'all a video from a spot here locally in Cedartown GA. We have location that not many seem to know about that the Creek and Cherokee tribes would get together once a year have a ceremony. My grandmother, who had a lot of Creek in her, always referred to it as "the Circle". Unfortunately, we do have the locations like the initial encampment area that began the trail of tears route as well. Thanks for sharing y'alls video though. I really enjoyed it.
Thats wild. I had no idea that so much cool stuff like that existed in my home state. Im from Augusta. Ive been to places out of state but aside from App trail nothing in GA. All i know of Cedartown is that Nick Chubb is from there.
@@tonytaylor8217 hey fatass look at this www.theguardian.com/science/2018/jan/25/oldest-known-human-fossil-outside-africa-discovered-in-israel We did not come from Africa
@@kanyebear2358 it says right in the story itself the remains are from and earlier, exit outta Africa!!! You.had me pumped before i read it, ive been a supporter of outta India awhile now, but this is a example of earlier unsuccessful migration that modern dna cant be traced to. It proves absolutely nothing other than failed trip outta Africa which has been theory for hundreds of years no big discovery of humans outta Israel. I suggest and trying not to be ignorant, read this a couple times to comprehend what it actually says. I tell you this now.oldest human remains were found in Brazil, and there government will not let it be studied or even report they have it. Also unrelated history but just as cool, Roman pottery has also been found in the great South American country of Brazil, and better yet cocaine in Egyptian mummies,wonder where that mummy found that only one place it grows. Yes German scientists found this. Egyptian and Asians were.both in the America's long before the Vikings were, and get this while they were running around Europe with their swords, China had gunpowder!! Im from usa and history hasn't been fully told.correct and all old to new mainstream isn't always correct. Greek, Roman. English. And whoever controls the stuff we read in school books will never let this out. There's a Earth.built prymid in the midwest usa that's older than the great prymaid, and it was a thrived city estimates of millions of citizens and it's has artifacts from Georgia and Pennsylvania found there, and the natives to not claim it they knew of it but it was already there they claim. Rock shelter place discovered near Pittsburgh, Pa predates cloivs area settlement before the ice age!!! Also newgrange in Ireland is 6000 yrs old and still water tight, predates celtic galeic inhabitants, also this place was already ancient when the great giza was built, but not older than the sphinx which had errrsion simple archeology it was under water one time before it was under sand
So many of these things in the neighborhood where I live in Ellijay Ga. Just sad that hardly anyone knows or cares about. Coosawatee river from what I understand were the creek Indians.
I know of this place not far from were I live and growed up all my life here and im not young no more. This is were the Lamar Indians had there crop fields and also timber was planted in the 1900's and as you can tell the trees are only about 60-75 years old this is not what many would think it;s just moved stones from farms at the end of the day but looks cool.
The pointing tree wasn’t originally intended to be pointing at the petroglyphs, those were moved to the spot that they are currently in from elsewhere near the terraces, as for tombs, many were destroyed when the road was cut. The workers stole artifacts and skeletons and sold them to dealers in Atlanta, awful. I’ve explored this entire area, about 14 miles up is the collapsed fumerole. Yes, that mountain was a volcano at one point. The irrigation systems and storage ponds are still there
@@loopinglarry Sometimes they let you and sometimes they don't. Scott Wolter thinks it's Aztec. I agree. They migrated everywhere. They became the Creek Indians and later lost a viscous battle on Blood Mountain against the Cherokee. It was a custom for the Cherokee to bring the survivors into their tribe.
Looks so different in you're video when I explored it was in the summer which was harder to navigate. I'll be back soon to continue my exploration, looking forward to it.
Yeah we had just managed to get out there right before spring time so the leaves were not there thankfully. Let us know if you would like us to join you out there amigo our team has been wanting to go back out there to look for that snake effigy.
Very interesting! I have been in that area many times but never hiked out the trail so I had no idea that was there. The wall at 19:19 resembles the wall at Ft. Mountain State Park. The last information I saw on it was no one knows who built it or why. It seems there is a strong possibility it's connected to the ruins here. Great video!
In college, I was a Forestry and WIldlife Conservation major. We spent all our time out in the woods like that. LEAF SLEDDING was very popular lol. I'm also Cherokee and there is a Cherokee Sacred Stone out East. Judaculla or something like that. It has hundreds of glyphs on it. No one can make sense of it, but legend has it. A Big hairy man from the west, came and stayed with the tribe for awhile, and then left. Somehow they revered this big hairy guy lol. Few people seem to know about it. Even the locals. It is however out in the sticks, mountains and only one road to it. It's just a rock along side a creek, near a fault line the Cherokees used as trails. It would be interesting to see the markings on those rocks you guys visited. I couldn't really make out anything. Should have poured water over them. I'd like to compare the symbols. You'd have a damn good clue who actually carved it.
I believe Mayans because I found a brass Coin dating back over 1,500 years ago ! I just now seen your veido I found this Coin 20 years ago and I have been telling everyone that they were here .
@Itwasafairfight Media my husband has done extensive research on this. The palagorscyte clay you mentioned is found in large deposits in ga, minute deposits in central America. The Mayan disappeared in the late 800ad and our "mississippian " culture arose in the early 900s. So they left there and came here, but....I do believe they were here earlier in time and eventually made it to central America, and then returned here.
@@brittneyworley2744 no. They Maya did not leave. They are still there. Mississippian culture developed out of earlier Woodland cultures. You are mistaking diffusion or migration for convergent cultures.
I found 4 terraces on side of a hill in Paulding county Ga. off silvercomet trail down in a gully next to a stream looks really old . In that area was where lots of native American village's
When clearing the land for planting crops,you would have to pile up the stone from the area,maybe some where used to separate the plots of land,might not be houses.
Where is this place exactly located in Georgia? I live in Georgia. Born bred and raised, and also Cherokee Indian. By my Daddy. I have never heard of this place. Please let me know
I've seen many places like this even not far from Atlanta; always wondering who and when stacked the stones where stacked. Same thing - with some long fence/barrier like stacks, and a whole lot of random rock piles that someone had to have purposely stacked. Its certainly possible that natives or even settlers just stacked them to keep farming (idk if it's possible to tell from moss or something if they've sat there for a couple hundred or couple thousand years). A possibility I havent heard before but might make sense is that they were used as cover in battle. Of course the burial thing. Idk, sure would like to know, surprised there hasn't been more scientific research into them. Never noticed carvings though, but will pay a little more attention next time I go to one of those spots
Great videos guys! I love North Georgia! But what in the hell is that racket of a tapping noise throughout the video? Sounds like someone continuously beating on a rock with a rather hollow stick!
+Georgia Man Thanks Georgia Man! Yeah it was a Gimbal we had our Camera on. I sold it for this very reason. We are looking to go in the future to reshoot this area because of the noise issue we had with this video.
These kind of stone walls are found anywhere in the US especially in the Appalachian Mountains. Typically they are from farmers plowing fields, finding rocks and moving the rocks out of the fields. Oftentimes they were used as property line delineations as well. Closer look in these areas may also reveal holes with stone walls around them which were most likely Cellars or basements under houses. Not sure the Indians built these.
Yup. I live nearby and have walked these woods for decades. I have also spent a lot of time in Central American, volunteering at Mayan sites, and this site is about as Mayan as I am. It's a hoot reading some of the crazy comments here. And I won't even mention RT's wacko ideas and BS (or his photo thievery).
very cool! I've been to the Petroglyph site but didn't know anything about all this. Also watched the America Unearthed episode y'all were talking about about, had mixed thoughts about it. Seeing all this though makes me want to go back and wander around the forest and explore. Thanks
That is very possible Rodney. We had asked ourselves this very question. In the future we would like to go back and investigate a little more. This time of year is perfect weather and critter wise. I think we are going to try and get Richard to come with us next time if he is available.
On that hilly land just erosion or tillage may have initially brought them to the surface, but they are obviously stacked. Stuff like this is all over GA
I have the same type of stacked stones on my property near Amicalola, and I wonder if they’re related to mining activities or even possibly Civil War burials…?
Interesting, guys. I spent my childhood clearing land for fields on the family farm in S Ga and arrowheads and other artifacts were so numerous we’d toss back on the ground. A few years back I found a petrified dugong (fresh water manatee from when the area was underwater)skeleton in a creek on the property. There is a trail across a ridge of wooded acreage that as a boy my dad drove cows to the Flint River that bordered the property during the summers to graze and retrieved them before winter. He always called it the old Indian trail. The 5th generation of family farmer has recently given up on farming and the farm is now used basically as a playground for family and friends and a few cows and other assorted animals. Treasures still turn up pretty frequently. Rocks and lighterd stumps were thrown over last 150 years in piles on fence lines. As those fence lines shifted piles were pushed into gullies.
I'd love to see NASA post Lidar maps of this whole region as well as south of Ocean City NJ which is also a Mayan area, which are all over the America's
Thanks you guys for sharing that. I've been studying it from afar for a good year now. I totally enjoyed watching. Have you heard about the nuclear testing facility in Dawsonville forrest? After having a meltdown in the 50s they closed up shop and abandoned it. Apparently the site is still radioactive. It looks like another interesting explore. There's rumors about mutant animals like two headed deer and things. Again thanks for the video. 😃
Yes, there are mutant deer there, but closer to the highway, I have found another complex of stone ruins. There are several more upstream on Amicalola Creek, plus a large mound on Cochran Creek. - Richard Thornton - The Americas Revealed.
What type of nuclear testing facility? Like for energy production or weapons development? I would love to hear more about this because I work up around that area sometimes and I'm always curious about little known subjects like this
@@logancurl9526 This was a nuclear research facility near Dawsonville that was operated by Lockheed. Here's a link to the Wiki on it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Nuclear_Aircraft_Laboratory
@@peopleofonefire9643 , I bought property along Cochran creek that backs up to the National Forest and about 6 miles from Amicalola. This past winter I was exploring and found two sites of stacked stones; I was unable to determine what it could be. I’ve also seen many marker trees in the area. Also along my property there are many trails, that look like game trails….but strangely every few yards there are white quartz rocks that look like they mark the paths…or they rolled down the mountain and just so happen to stop there due to the paths being level. Also one of my neighbors told me to watch out for old mines… So I don’t know if the stacked rocks are Cherokee related or miner related?
This is the notorious Richard Thornton - most hated man in Georgia's anthropology departments. LOL . People from Pickens County also claim to have seen several types of extraterrestrials in the Dawson Forest.. By the way, the Little Mulberry River Park near Auburn, GA in NE Metro Atlanta is a fairly large terrace complex, which is easy to visit and children friendly. It has paved parking, picnic sheds, public water fountains and several types of ruins.
The snake effigy found at 21:25 was "Kiss Me" or it might be "I will bite just for the fun of it" Wait until you walk across a small hole with Garter Snakes over flowing out of it. You will think they are non poisonous Garter Snakes, but they are dozens and dozens and dozens. A Garter Snake for every home, garage and pocket.
You need to research " the Silver City Turtle". ( south of there, between Cumming and dahlongega) A large carved rock turtle. Not a pertoroglyph on rock, but a detailed carved stone statue of obvious great age. Soon after it was discovered some archaeologists came and took it. I have heard that it is in storage somewhere at at UGA. They were unusually secretive about it. Hard to find info.
My grandfather told me stories he said his grandparents told him, he said they would make rock den everywhere for smaller animals for easier hunting and then when they would travel the rock forms with holes at the bottom they would set fires and use as heaters because the fire would heat the Rocks so that's why you have a lot of those around they used them to heat the air around them and the ground so they wouldnt be so cold. Just a little told story of how they hunted and traveled
I have a video on my channel showing some springs on our property. In that video I found a pretty long wall. I also found another (not in the video). Our property is in Union County Georgia. I have no idea if it’s ancient or more recently made. The video is called Discovering Springs.
Years ago, I took my kids to Fort mountain, and I vaguely remember seeing a ceremonial ?stone wall/circle ?built by a similar tribe? of Indians. Actually, I don't remember if there were any petyroglyphs or carvings/drawings on these rocks. Since I am from Louisiana, I have also visited Poverty point which is a World Heritage site. Since it is located near a waterway, Historians believe this was huge cultural hub for trade among the mound Indians scattered along the Mississippi river area/valley. Rocks found there that were non indigenous to the area as well as many other artifacts .I am wondering how much contact or trading might have occurred w/ this NE tribe nestled deep in the mountain woods? It was by a creek and water way and those tree & rock signs(similar to street signs)might have helped navigate other Indians for trade? All so fascinating.
+Andrew Evans Not trying to sound ugly Andrew (I'm really not I am a super nice guy don't like being mean:) but mostly Rangers care about giving out tickets and making sure your not camping off the trail. We have had several Archeologist look including the Scott Walter from the history channel say this is a very significant sight. It is the biggest arborglyph sight in the east of America and the Cherokee and Creek hold this place very sacred. Miles not just a small area... Miles and Miles of huge Terraces and foundations of an old village. The Creeks also know it as the place of the Itza... Ranger needs to go back to school and study history/archeology and not just biology of the Forest. You were probably on to something Andrew with what you saw, don't let the small minds deter you from from great finds. My dad back in the 70's went down the back side of Fort Mountain, GA and found stacked pyramids 6ft high and about 20 of them 5 in a row. He went back and told the Ranger thinking it would be a big discovery. He said the Ranger rolled his eyes and said, "oh ok thanks" and set back down in his chair to work on papers. Pioneers usually are solo against the World, and once they pave a way here comes everyone else.
I figured that is what you meant Andrew. I wasn't directing that at you Amigo just the Ranger who said it was nothing. We might be going out soon to a place (I'm sure you have heard of it) The Old Stone Fort in TN. Still a mystery as to who built it. Being that you have a passion for Archeology your welcome to join us for this one if you would like.
Yes I also collect arrowheads. We have a friend that lives down on the Conasauga River, and we go down and search there sometimes. Tellico is a great place to hunt too
This morning I saw on a news channel a Tibet rock house. Reminded me of this video. Google needs to make it possible to post photos on here. I couldn't put the shelters they must of lived in this community then I saw it briefly this morning and so I googled rock houses in Tibet. Kind of helps me to see where there could have been pretty nice houses here.
That would be a great feature to be able to post photos in the comment section. I just looked up "Tibet Rock House" on Google. I have never seen one before, but would have to agree that is probably what they looked like. When I was out there I was aww struck by this place. It's just terrace after terrace and old foundations, so much so that I had about 2 hours worth of footage but had to edit it down for video length sake. The more I research into this whole Mayan-American idea. I could definitely see a connection. Whats interesting is both the Creek and Cherokee Indians used names for the province around Track Rock Gap that means “Place of the Itza.” Here is Richard Thornton talking about his experience with this place in North Georgia (once you click keep scrolling down to read) spark.adobe.com/page/hrIy00M1ROqfW/
Dude...It's Georgia. There were tons of Indian tribes everywhere. He in Forsyth County we have Indian villages everywhere. You can hike to the "indian seats" on top of Sawnee mountain even.
A sizable Mound in Augusta Ga. off Windsor Spring Rd. Perched up above Butler Creek. I’m sure the expansion of the crud scape with all of the materials purchased at the local box lumber store has plowed this in clandestine clay mound in 2 decades since I last was there.
I just watched this. Did you question the possibility of that mountain being a temple. Those exposed stones may do deeper. That place needs to be surveyed.
Mississippian culture is a better fit with the mound building aspect. As well as the mayan disappearing in the late 800s, and the mound builders arising in the early 900s
+Joshua Harris Vlogs Nice! I will have to check that video out. Yeah it's crazy all of the history we have throughout the Appalachia region. I honestly didn't think we would find this village when we set out to make this video.
Those rocks are in piles like that from below stone mountain to far north from where you're at. I lived in commerce ga for a while and they ran through my property. I seen the same piles of rock in v friends yard in stone mountain ga. Just like what youre seeing there
Hey Dean my dad talked about rock piles below Fort Mountain near Chatsworth also. It’s wild of how many are in the region of Georgia. We are in the process of revising this specific video for editing purposes. Our team would love to come and film these piles in your area also if you could show us them or give us details.
Ive been to track rock a few times amd when he was leaning on it and running his hands all over it it hurt me lol, i doubt it would do any damage to the rocks but i still felt like it was going too
Out west we were told that they hid behind them to shoot game from ancient game trails. I think they could have been used as barriers against enemies, fences for crops and tall ones for livestock. In the Book of Mormon the last great battles of two great nation's were fought in NY. It is a fascinating history.
Elbow tree ?? First I've heard them called that,normally they are called trail trees..... I would question Scott Wolters credibility before I would believe anything he said..... Maybe I missed it but how does a pile of rocks constitute a town/village ? Im thinking a new interpretation is needed for that area as well as further archeological work
Mr Thornton has done extensive research and exploration in the area. The color called Mayan Blue requires an ingredient not easily found in Mexico but plentiful here. There was trade that occurred back and forth between GA and The Mayans of Mexico. The glyphs and language of the Creeks are linked directly to their Mayan connections. These factors cannot be negated.
I live here. I've found many of these stone walls over the years. I honestly couldn't recall where. I was a kid roaming around the woods. I need to go back to some of the places and try and recall my steps. I never stayed to the trails. I dunno.
Terraces just do not normally loose their top soil in a few years as stated by the local guy doing the guiding. It likely took a lot of work to build them and to maintain them. But they can get abandoned due to wars and epidemics. The Cherokees dealt with the British and were supplied with firearms to aid their slaving activities; this is more likely what caused the abandonment of those terraced fields. The mayans civilization suffered from factors that made it decline: ''When was the Mayan civilization abandoned? In archaeology, the classic Maya collapse is the decline of the Classic Maya civilization and the abandonment of Maya cities in the southern Maya lowlands of Mesoamerica between the 7th and 9th centuries.'' Perhaps that is when they migrated to what is the now the Southeastern USA.
+Mike Smith Hey Mike sorry. It's the gimbal with the weight of the heavy lens on it. We are working on getting a mirror less camera and a smaller lens to cut that noise out.
Nothing about this site says it is Mayan and everything I have ever seen about it does not reflect archeological facts. You can't jump all over time and places without any evidence. Where are the other "artifacts" from the "site"? Most of those trees look to be less than 100 years old and old timers looted all the good sites long ago. Were is the artifact assemblage? Until that happens this site is only protohistoric or historic terracing and stone clearing.
What gets me is why did the forestry or Georgia state parks or the national forest folks whoever was in control close access to the place down and it was shortly after before that show aired on history they did not want publicity and or those folks in there although we know there was an archeologist from Georgia that was aware of that site and some others that had similar large stones with efígies carved on them in the state .
@@bruciferburton5246 I don't know. There is also no information the artifacts excavated in the 2001 investigation, which was funded partially by the US Forest Service.
Interesting looks amazing Mayan, creek, Cherokee it’s all we call first Nations indigenous to the north American continent call finding guys I don’t know who claims it but cool findings
Might those stone walls simply be terraces created as Farmers were attempting to clear their fields of rocks and prevent erosion. The terraces follow the contours of the hillside. The stacked stones are most likely chimney foundations from homes. The stone carvings are most certainly prehistoric and Native American.....all but where someone carved their initials.... but I have strong reservations about rest of the items being constructed prior to 1800.
If a town exist then graves exist, also whos to say this whole thing is not a big grave yard. Indians did rituals, buried they're dead in mountains and mounds so maybe this is not a town but a retreat for rituals sacrifices.
I say we go to the Witches Mound off Hwy 96 near West lake outside Warner Robins Ga if you serious contact me I'll fill you in believe me it's way off the beaten path.
+Tina Carson Cool Tina! Yeah we were there back in February. It was one of our first videos that we made. We have thought about going back here soon to reshoot this area and remake the video with better quality. You live in such an amazingly historic area.
Guys . . . guess what? When you were at the very top of the mountain at the cliffs, you were at the royal burials. There are over a hundred hand dug tombs up there. The openings are sealed with quarried rocks laid with clay mortar. The mortar was plastered with green, white and red stucco . . . but the designs are no longer discernible.
The snake effigy is just to the north of the lower plaza of the acropolis. Oh, I and I am an architect-city planner . . . not an archaeologist. Seriously doubt that most of the Georgia archaeologists, I have encountered would even have had the SAT scores to get into Georgia Tech's College of Architecture. LOL They certainly don't know about our (Creek Indians) cultural history.
Good job . . . like all the humor.
Wow I wish we would have known that about the Royal Burial spots. We would have spent more time investigating up there. Going up that hill again though... oh man I'm out of breath just thinking about it. haha We want to go back and try to film more in the future and find the snake effigy. We couldn't believe how massive of a site it was and how no one seems to know about it, or cares to investigate it. For some reason I thought I heard you were an Archeologist(Maybe I heard Architect and my brain said Archeologist) sorry for the mix up. You might as well be though with the research and studying you have done on the History of the Indians, and this site. It looks like the Academic community would be all over this. Your doing what they should be and in my book that makes you the real deal and a Pioneer. Thanks for paving a way for the rest of us amigo.
"Mainstream archeology".
It doesn't take an educated idiot with a station wagon full of PHDs or a cool misleading name to realize the Creeks living in the Southeast of the United States were influence by peoples from that came from central Americas.
The Cherokee would never have made it close to the Tennessee River and into North Georgia in the early to mid 1700s if it wasn't for English settlers and their Carolina militias.
The copper plate viewed during time frames 0:42 to 0:46 was found in Cartersville, Georgia at the Etowah Mounds and that was made by the Mississippian culture, a Muscogee and later known as Creek people.
A person would have to be blind as a ding bat if they could not notice that piece was influenced by Native people from the central Americas.
I am also sure You never heard of the Buzzard Cult or at least the Bird or Spider Cult/Clan that lived in the mountains and foothill of North Georgia and the western Carolines.
Then again that what happens to someone that depends on their state/Federal government financed public school education or lack there of.
What gets me is there were archaeologists like Dr Joseph Mahan that knew more about the Native people without digging a spoon of dirt and stepping on one leave than those today that have move tons and lost mountains.
Good info. Thanks for sharing it. My grandmother in my mom's side had a lot of Creek in her. We have a lot of history of the Creek and Cherokee here in Cedartown GA. It would be really neat to find some tombs like that around here. Thanks again for sharing y'alls info.
Appalachian Dan "lmfao" x 2. You're redundant.
I live Rome, Georgia and I got a rock wall that looks just like that rock wall in the woods on my property. It is mostly buried in the ground. It goes for quite a ways in the woods. There is no telling what is beneath our feet.
Wow... !!! My best friend, Great... We liked and enjoyed to the end. Thanks Have a happy day!
I've always been really curious about how many mounds are across Georgia, that most people don't know about. There is one off Ga 334 in Jackson County, by a creek.
@Dr. Zivago Oh so Europeans invaded America & constructed thousands of thousand year old mounds and now you're owed the land that you STOLE. 😂 Wow yea sound about white. Always stealing someone else's very existence. Smdh
@@TheeGoddessQUEEN Wow your ignorance is so amazing.. it's literally entertainment. You do realize even people of African descent stole other people's land that were on it..you know the thing called conquest...idiot.
Second off its not only white people..you ever heard of Genghis Khan and how he did it all throughout the middle East and Central Asia all the way into China..not white at all... Or how about more recently when former slaves got sent to Liberia and they killed the native population and created their own government and their minority and just in the past 30 years have the indigenous people actually taken over the government..yes that wasn't white people either .. go get an education moron
@@jthrasher47 no bxtch ignorance is you even remotely agreeing with anything that commenter said. I know history very well & all that comes with conquering lands but no where in history has the conquerors claimed the work of the conquered as much as you & your ancestors. I mean seriously do you see the Spanish saying they built the Mayan pyramids & they were the real Egyptians⁉️ 🤣🤣🤣I'm so happy you got all worked up behind my comment sulking in your white guilt it's hilarious❗🤣🤣🤣
@@jthrasher47 And you know what about those so called former slaves who actually made a choice to go to Africa & not got sent like you said as if they had no choice you know that's your ppls fault as well. Bcuz had your ppl told the TRUTH that they weren't from Africa & actually were enslaved here on their own land they wouldn't have went somewhere & caused havoc on the natives of Liberia & Sierra Leona places where they should've been accepted had they actually been brought from there just 1 maybe 2 generations removed. Tsk tsk tsk. Also fyi Asians & white ppl have the closest dna of all races so technically Ghengis Khan was a white man I mean since you want to be technical Mr. Caucus Mountain asian hence caucasian. -Have a nice day!
@@TheeGoddessQUEEN But hey thanks for addressing my original response.. which you didn't..you know the one where I proved everything you said as complete BS because every single race under the sun was doing it and it's not just one people fault.. I like how you totally avoided that..
That's funny and you try to paint somebody with white guilt.. you know I could be African-American, could be Latino,could be why could be Asian for all you know you don't shit. The thing is it doesn't matter what color you are what matters is you can't change the past but you can change the future and the USA is the best place on the freaking planet where black people and every other single color people have a better chance to make it than any other place but yet instead of grasping that people like you want to live in the past . When you have every opportunity and more given right to you and even more than other races due to minority scholarships.. it really must suck to live so miserable... You need to watch a little bit more Brandon Tatum, listen to Candace Owens and others ... I hope you find peace one day but it doesn't seem like you will
And you proved yourself wrong again because you do not know anything about history.. the people from Liberia we're very aware they were former slaves ... It was largely due to the work of the American colonization society... Which included many former slaves as members. but hey let's just ignore that fact so we can make excuses for ourselves again ☺️😉😉.
Or how about like I said in Chicagowhere I seen it with my own two eyes where our people are killing each other for no reason at all.. slavery has absolutely nothing to do with it.. or white people because it's got a black mayor and has been democrat-controlled for the past 30 years.. it's time you wake up and I hope you do.. you can't live in the past but you can try to stop the hate that you are spreading now
OMG!!! that tapping noise is killing me!!!!
Yeah sorry Nicholas this video is from when we first started making videos. It is from a lame Gimbal that we were filming with. We had talked about going back out there and reshooting this spot for that very reason. I think you would be glad to know we threw that specific gimbal off a cliff haha
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Nicholas Crank me too, what the heck is it, glad I'm not the only one that heard it. Lol
Omg now i notice it
Read what it is, above my comment. But, it sounds like tapping from a lens cover to me. I have to be conscious of that when I shoot videos with my small camera. Though the tapping was a little annoying, I'm glad y'all didn't re-shoot the video, cause originals are *always* best, to me. Thanks for the info - never knew there was such a place in Georgia!!!
@@curtriceennis2924 there isnt.
The weekend after I got my drivers license back in 1979 I drove up to this sight to check it out!! There is more to the story than we know for sure!! An amazing place and experience!!
I need to make y'all a video from a spot here locally in Cedartown GA. We have location that not many seem to know about that the Creek and Cherokee tribes would get together once a year have a ceremony. My grandmother, who had a lot of Creek in her, always referred to it as "the Circle". Unfortunately, we do have the locations like the initial encampment area that began the trail of tears route as well. Thanks for sharing y'alls video though. I really enjoyed it.
Thats wild. I had no idea that so much cool stuff like that existed in my home state. Im from Augusta. Ive been to places out of state but aside from App trail nothing in GA. All i know of Cedartown is that Nick Chubb is from there.
I live just south of you. I would love to hear more about this place along with possibly seeing it.
Where is this at in Cedartown? I live in Rome and come to Cedartown all the time for my job!
@@crobj10 Its located in the wooded area beside NW park. It's about a 10 min walk through the woods to get to it.
@@1cardplayer I'm in Lafayette and am interested in checking it out
My Grandmother always said Baby we are not from Africa..Yes Mam #LovemyCherokeeAncestors
YOU ALREADY KNOW...NATIVE OF GA. GREAT GREAT WAS A CHIEF CREEK AND BELIEVE CHEROKEE
@@kahielhastings9495 Most Definitely...South Atlanta..Gotta Love the Truth!
Africa is the cradle of life u fucking idiot
@@tonytaylor8217 hey fatass look at this www.theguardian.com/science/2018/jan/25/oldest-known-human-fossil-outside-africa-discovered-in-israel
We did not come from Africa
@@kanyebear2358 it says right in the story itself the remains are from and earlier, exit outta Africa!!! You.had me pumped before i read it, ive been a supporter of outta India awhile now, but this is a example of earlier unsuccessful migration that modern dna cant be traced to. It proves absolutely nothing other than failed trip outta Africa which has been theory for hundreds of years no big discovery of humans outta Israel. I suggest and trying not to be ignorant, read this a couple times to comprehend what it actually says. I tell you this now.oldest human remains were found in Brazil, and there government will not let it be studied or even report they have it. Also unrelated history but just as cool, Roman pottery has also been found in the great South American country of Brazil, and better yet cocaine in Egyptian mummies,wonder where that mummy found that only one place it grows. Yes German scientists found this. Egyptian and Asians were.both in the America's long before the Vikings were, and get this while they were running around Europe with their swords, China had gunpowder!! Im from usa and history hasn't been fully told.correct and all old to new mainstream isn't always correct. Greek, Roman. English. And whoever controls the stuff we read in school books will never let this out. There's a Earth.built prymid in the midwest usa that's older than the great prymaid, and it was a thrived city estimates of millions of citizens and it's has artifacts from Georgia and Pennsylvania found there, and the natives to not claim it they knew of it but it was already there they claim. Rock shelter place discovered near Pittsburgh, Pa predates cloivs area settlement before the ice age!!! Also newgrange in Ireland is 6000 yrs old and still water tight, predates celtic galeic inhabitants, also this place was already ancient when the great giza was built, but not older than the sphinx which had errrsion simple archeology it was under water one time before it was under sand
So many of these things in the neighborhood where I live in Ellijay Ga. Just sad that hardly anyone knows or cares about. Coosawatee river from what I understand were the creek Indians.
Why did you guys stop your channel?? It’s awesome!!!
what is that constant tapping?
Right !!!!!
Exactly!!
Let me out!
You have to imagine as well that none of those trees are there when that community was there.
Most of those trees haven't been there 100 years.
I know of this place not far from were I live and growed up all my life here and im not young no more.
This is were the Lamar Indians had there crop fields and also timber was planted in the 1900's and as you can tell the trees are only about 60-75 years old this is not what many would think it;s just moved stones from farms at the end of the day but looks cool.
The pointing tree wasn’t originally intended to be pointing at the petroglyphs, those were moved to the spot that they are currently in from elsewhere near the terraces, as for tombs, many were destroyed when the road was cut. The workers stole artifacts and skeletons and sold them to dealers in Atlanta, awful. I’ve explored this entire area, about 14 miles up is the collapsed fumerole. Yes, that mountain was a volcano at one point. The irrigation systems and storage ponds are still there
That tree isn't 150 years old. Not the time of the Maya or anybody but Americans when that tree sprouted.
@@Jadeserphant bullshit.
My friend lives a minute from there and I live fifteen minutes away. Been here twelve years and I've never explored it.
I don't live far i would like to go up there a photograph while are there
@@loopinglarry Sometimes they let you and sometimes they don't. Scott Wolter thinks it's Aztec. I agree. They migrated everywhere. They became the Creek Indians and later lost a viscous battle on Blood Mountain against the Cherokee. It was a custom for the Cherokee to bring the survivors into their tribe.
@@Mike383HK I thought Scott Wolter thinks it's Mayan?
@@logancurl9526 I think you are right. I haven't seen the program in a long time.
@@Mike383HK bullshit.
Looks so different in you're video when I explored it was in the summer which was harder to navigate. I'll be back soon to continue my exploration, looking forward to it.
Yeah we had just managed to get out there right before spring time so the leaves were not there thankfully. Let us know if you would like us to join you out there amigo our team has been wanting to go back out there to look for that snake effigy.
the mayans did it....im finding mayan popol vuh art here in georgia as well
Very interesting! I have been in that area many times but never hiked out the trail so I had no idea that was there. The wall at 19:19 resembles the wall at Ft. Mountain State Park. The last information I saw on it was no one knows who built it or why. It seems there is a strong possibility it's connected to the ruins here. Great video!
In college, I was a Forestry and WIldlife Conservation major. We spent all our time out in the woods like that. LEAF SLEDDING was very popular lol.
I'm also Cherokee and there is a Cherokee Sacred Stone out East. Judaculla or something like that. It has hundreds of glyphs on it. No one can make sense of it, but legend has it. A Big hairy man from the west, came and stayed with the tribe for awhile, and then left. Somehow they revered this big hairy guy lol.
Few people seem to know about it. Even the locals. It is however out in the sticks, mountains and only one road to it. It's just a rock along side a creek, near a fault line the Cherokees used as trails.
It would be interesting to see the markings on those rocks you guys visited. I couldn't really make out anything. Should have poured water over them. I'd like to compare the symbols. You'd have a damn good clue who actually carved it.
I believe Mayans because I found a brass Coin dating back over 1,500 years ago ! I just now seen your veido I found this Coin 20 years ago and I have been telling everyone that they were here .
I found the coin on my parents property in middle GA
@Itwasafairfight Media my husband has done extensive research on this. The palagorscyte clay you mentioned is found in large deposits in ga, minute deposits in central America. The Mayan disappeared in the late 800ad and our "mississippian " culture arose in the early 900s. So they left there and came here, but....I do believe they were here earlier in time and eventually made it to central America, and then returned here.
I would love to see pics of that coin! Could you possibly email me some photos, please? loganmcurl@gmail.com
Maya didn't do brass coins.
@@brittneyworley2744 no. They Maya did not leave. They are still there. Mississippian culture developed out of earlier Woodland cultures. You are mistaking diffusion or migration for convergent cultures.
everyone should take a trip down to guatemala to check out the ancient mayan ruins.
I would love to
I found 4 terraces on side of a hill in Paulding county Ga. off silvercomet trail down in a gully next to a stream looks really old . In that area was where lots of native American village's
When clearing the land for planting crops,you would have to pile up the stone from the area,maybe some where used to separate the plots of land,might not be houses.
Where is this place exactly located in Georgia? I live in Georgia. Born bred and raised, and also Cherokee Indian. By my Daddy. I have never heard of this place. Please let me know
I've seen many places like this even not far from Atlanta; always wondering who and when stacked the stones where stacked. Same thing - with some long fence/barrier like stacks, and a whole lot of random rock piles that someone had to have purposely stacked.
Its certainly possible that natives or even settlers just stacked them to keep farming (idk if it's possible to tell from moss or something if they've sat there for a couple hundred or couple thousand years).
A possibility I havent heard before but might make sense is that they were used as cover in battle.
Of course the burial thing. Idk, sure would like to know, surprised there hasn't been more scientific research into them.
Never noticed carvings though, but will pay a little more attention next time I go to one of those spots
where at exactly outside of Atlanta?
Great videos guys! I love North Georgia! But what in the hell is that racket of a tapping noise throughout the video? Sounds like someone continuously beating on a rock with a rather hollow stick!
Must be the camera noise..
+Georgia Man Thanks Georgia Man! Yeah it was a Gimbal we had our Camera on. I sold it for this very reason. We are looking to go in the future to reshoot this area because of the noise issue we had with this video.
to me that tapping and clicking is not bad you should ride in my old car you would go nuts lol
These kind of stone walls are found anywhere in the US especially in the Appalachian Mountains. Typically they are from farmers plowing fields, finding rocks and moving the rocks out of the fields. Oftentimes they were used as property line delineations as well. Closer look in these areas may also reveal holes with stone walls around them which were most likely Cellars or basements under houses. Not sure the Indians built these.
The old Mayan ruins look like this now too (Mexico) because the skim coats have eroded over time. They were mudded over originally.
Yup. I live nearby and have walked these woods for decades. I have also spent a lot of time in Central American, volunteering at Mayan sites, and this site is about as Mayan as I am. It's a hoot reading some of the crazy comments here. And I won't even mention RT's wacko ideas and BS (or his photo thievery).
@@bruceroberts3210 yeah, the old guy even said the land was farmed. I grew up in the woods of North West GA. I don't call a pile of rocks "ruins".
very cool! I've been to the Petroglyph site but didn't know anything about all this. Also watched the America Unearthed episode y'all were talking about about, had mixed thoughts about it. Seeing all this though makes me want to go back and wander around the forest and explore. Thanks
The question is, where did all the rocks come from? I think those came out of some mines they dug.
That is very possible Rodney. We had asked ourselves this very question. In the future we would like to go back and investigate a little more. This time of year is perfect weather and critter wise. I think we are going to try and get Richard to come with us next time if he is available.
On that hilly land just erosion or tillage may have initially brought them to the surface, but they are obviously stacked. Stuff like this is all over GA
Field stones piled up dont equal a mine or a city.
I have the same type of stacked stones on my property near Amicalola, and I wonder if they’re related to mining activities or even possibly Civil War burials…?
Interesting, guys. I spent my childhood clearing land for fields on the family farm in S Ga and arrowheads and other artifacts were so numerous we’d toss back on the ground. A few years back I found a petrified dugong (fresh water manatee from when the area was underwater)skeleton in a creek on the property. There is a trail across a ridge of wooded acreage that as a boy my dad drove cows to the Flint River that bordered the property during the summers to graze and retrieved them before winter. He always called it the old Indian trail. The 5th generation of family farmer has recently given up on farming and the farm is now used basically as a playground for family and friends and a few cows and other assorted animals. Treasures still turn up pretty frequently. Rocks and lighterd stumps were thrown over last 150 years in piles on fence lines. As those fence lines shifted piles were pushed into gullies.
What part of South Georgia? I live in South Georgia
@@pamelaharnage Near Bainbridge, extreme SW corner of Decatur County.
@@lorihamlin3604 Decatur. The you aren't far from me. I'm in Cook County. Adel GA. Home of the King 🐸. Thirty miles from Valdosta.
Flint River that puts you close to Albany doesn't it?
I'd love to see NASA post Lidar maps of this whole region as well as south of Ocean City NJ which is also a Mayan area, which are all over the America's
No. They are not.
Thanks you guys for sharing that. I've been studying it from afar for a good year now. I totally enjoyed watching.
Have you heard about the nuclear testing facility in Dawsonville forrest? After having a meltdown in the 50s they closed up shop and abandoned it. Apparently the site is still radioactive. It looks like another interesting explore. There's rumors about mutant animals like two headed deer and things.
Again thanks for the video. 😃
Yes, there are mutant deer there, but closer to the highway, I have found another complex of stone ruins. There are several more upstream on Amicalola Creek, plus a large mound on Cochran Creek. - Richard Thornton - The Americas Revealed.
What type of nuclear testing facility? Like for energy production or weapons development? I would love to hear more about this because I work up around that area sometimes and I'm always curious about little known subjects like this
@@logancurl9526 This was a nuclear research facility near Dawsonville that was operated by Lockheed. Here's a link to the Wiki on it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Nuclear_Aircraft_Laboratory
@@peopleofonefire9643 , I bought property along Cochran creek that backs up to the National Forest and about 6 miles from Amicalola. This past winter I was exploring and found two sites of stacked stones; I was unable to determine what it could be. I’ve also seen many marker trees in the area. Also along my property there are many trails, that look like game trails….but strangely every few yards there are white quartz rocks that look like they mark the paths…or they rolled down the mountain and just so happen to stop there due to the paths being level. Also one of my neighbors told me to watch out for old mines… So I don’t know if the stacked rocks are Cherokee related or miner related?
This is the notorious Richard Thornton - most hated man in Georgia's anthropology departments. LOL . People from Pickens County also claim to have seen several types of extraterrestrials in the Dawson Forest.. By the way, the Little Mulberry River Park near Auburn, GA in NE Metro Atlanta is a fairly large terrace complex, which is easy to visit and children friendly. It has paved parking, picnic sheds, public water fountains and several types of ruins.
I think those are graves that's covered in rocks to keep the critters from digging them up
Those plies of rock may be where farmers stacked them up to get them out of the fields.
In New England the natives call these "ceremonial landscapes"
The snake effigy found at 21:25 was "Kiss Me" or it might be "I will bite just for the fun of it"
Wait until you walk across a small hole with Garter Snakes over flowing out of it. You will think they are non poisonous Garter Snakes, but they are dozens and dozens and dozens. A Garter Snake for every home, garage and pocket.
You need to research " the Silver City Turtle". ( south of there, between Cumming and dahlongega) A large carved rock turtle. Not a pertoroglyph on rock, but a detailed carved stone statue of obvious great age. Soon after it was discovered some archaeologists came and took it. I have heard that it is in storage somewhere at at UGA. They were unusually secretive about it. Hard to find info.
My grandfather told me stories he said his grandparents told him, he said they would make rock den everywhere for smaller animals for easier hunting and then when they would travel the rock forms with holes at the bottom they would set fires and use as heaters because the fire would heat the Rocks so that's why you have a lot of those around they used them to heat the air around them and the ground so they wouldnt be so cold. Just a little told story of how they hunted and traveled
A lot of them are also headstones
He was born in 1924 his dad was born in 1876 and my gg grandpa was born in 1830 sadly he grew up during the terrible reality they faced.
I have a video on my channel showing some springs on our property. In that video I found a pretty long wall. I also found another (not in the video). Our property is in Union County Georgia. I have no idea if it’s ancient or more recently made. The video is called Discovering Springs.
On the beginning of day 2 was the rock on the very top an igneous rock, on top of sedimentary rock?
Years ago, I took my kids to Fort mountain, and I vaguely remember seeing a ceremonial ?stone wall/circle ?built by a similar tribe? of Indians. Actually, I don't remember if there were any petyroglyphs or carvings/drawings on these rocks.
Since I am from Louisiana, I have also visited Poverty point which is a World Heritage site. Since it is located near a waterway, Historians believe this was huge cultural hub for trade among the mound Indians scattered along the Mississippi river area/valley. Rocks found there that were non indigenous to the area as well as many other artifacts .I am wondering how much contact or trading might have occurred w/ this NE tribe nestled deep in the mountain woods? It was by a creek and water way and those tree & rock signs(similar to street signs)might have helped navigate other Indians for trade? All so fascinating.
*See: "The Adventure to Track Rock Gap Georgia Mayan Ruins"*
on Motte Thomas Channel
The entire hike done well.
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The farther south you go the stones are always iron ore. They rust there is so much iron in them
WHERE is this!!??? I have lived in NE GA all of my life and never heard of this.
They didn't show you a large sign that reads "STAY OFF OF THE ROCKS." Glad to see people following preservation efforts from the forest service.
So y’all went all the way out there without a metal detector?
I've seen similar stuff like this in Tennessee. I asked the ranger and he said those where nothing
+Andrew Evans Not trying to sound ugly Andrew (I'm really not I am a super nice guy don't like being mean:) but mostly Rangers care about giving out tickets and making sure your not camping off the trail. We have had several Archeologist look including the Scott Walter from the history channel say this is a very significant sight. It is the biggest arborglyph sight in the east of America and the Cherokee and Creek hold this place very sacred. Miles not just a small area... Miles and Miles of huge Terraces and foundations of an old village. The Creeks also know it as the place of the Itza... Ranger needs to go back to school and study history/archeology and not just biology of the Forest.
You were probably on to something Andrew with what you saw, don't let the small minds deter you from from great finds. My dad back in the 70's went down the back side of Fort Mountain, GA and found stacked pyramids 6ft high and about 20 of them 5 in a row. He went back and told the Ranger thinking it would be a big discovery. He said the Ranger rolled his eyes and said, "oh ok thanks" and set back down in his chair to work on papers. Pioneers usually are solo against the World, and once they pave a way here comes everyone else.
I was not saying they where fake, the site is amazing! Good Find! I've always wanted to be an archeologist. Amazing Video! Do you collect arrowheads?
I figured that is what you meant Andrew. I wasn't directing that at you Amigo just the Ranger who said it was nothing. We might be going out soon to a place (I'm sure you have heard of it) The Old Stone Fort in TN. Still a mystery as to who built it. Being that you have a passion for Archeology your welcome to join us for this one if you would like.
Yes I also collect arrowheads. We have a friend that lives down on the Conasauga River, and we go down and search there sometimes. Tellico is a great place to hunt too
Adventures United, where is telico? Was that a village, I've heard about it in Cherokee history.
What is the constant tapping noise?
It's Muskogee, The Cherokee and the Muskogee used to trade often in Georgia.
This morning I saw on a news channel a Tibet rock house. Reminded me of this video. Google needs to make it possible to post photos on here. I couldn't put the shelters they must of lived in this community then I saw it briefly this morning and so I googled rock houses in Tibet. Kind of helps me to see where there could have been pretty nice houses here.
That would be a great feature to be able to post photos in the comment section. I just looked up "Tibet Rock House" on Google. I have never seen one before, but would have to agree that is probably what they looked like. When I was out there I was aww struck by this place. It's just terrace after terrace and old foundations, so much so that I had about 2 hours worth of footage but had to edit it down for video length sake. The more I research into this whole Mayan-American idea. I could definitely see a connection. Whats interesting is both the Creek and Cherokee Indians used names for the province around Track Rock Gap that means “Place of the Itza.” Here is Richard Thornton talking about his experience with this place in North Georgia (once you click keep scrolling down to read)
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Thanks for the link. Very good read Best Wishes to your endeavors.
That is the exact copy of the cross and feather of the knights templars. Good luck guys.
Its viking
Dude...It's Georgia. There were tons of Indian tribes everywhere. He in Forsyth County we have Indian villages everywhere. You can hike to the "indian seats" on top of Sawnee mountain even.
A sizable Mound in Augusta Ga. off Windsor Spring Rd. Perched up above Butler Creek. I’m sure the expansion of the crud scape with all of the materials purchased at the local box lumber store has plowed this in clandestine clay mound in 2 decades since I last was there.
I just watched this. Did you question the possibility of that mountain being a temple. Those exposed stones may do deeper. That place needs to be surveyed.
The creek Indian was the Mayan...
Mississippian culture is a better fit with the mound building aspect. As well as the mayan disappearing in the late 800s, and the mound builders arising in the early 900s
Well one tribe was anyway.
And the Vine is probably wild scuppernong or bullous. Maybe they farmed them as we do. But love the Video Guys Great Job
I hauled my backside allllllll the way out to the Albuquerque to see petroglyphs and these are less than an hour away from me. GAH!
Those are hopewell burial mounds. Can't dig rock but you can like it. They were probably wiped out on that hill
The rocks look like judaculla rock that we have here in WNC. I did a video on it a few days back. The two look a lot a like
+Joshua Harris Vlogs Nice! I will have to check that video out. Yeah it's crazy all of the history we have throughout the Appalachia region. I honestly didn't think we would find this village when we set out to make this video.
Those rocks are in piles like that from below stone mountain to far north from where you're at. I lived in commerce ga for a while and they ran through my property. I seen the same piles of rock in v friends yard in stone mountain ga. Just like what youre seeing there
Hey Dean my dad talked about rock piles below Fort Mountain near Chatsworth also. It’s wild of how many are in the region of Georgia. We are in the process of revising this specific video for editing purposes. Our team would love to come and film these piles in your area also if you could show us them or give us details.
@@AdventuresUnited I'd love to
Ok how about on the Sunday the 13th we meet up to look at them. Are you free then?
Can’t believe I never heard of this channel!
Any chance to a copy of the map?
Ive been to track rock a few times amd when he was leaning on it and running his hands all over it it hurt me lol, i doubt it would do any damage to the rocks but i still felt like it was going too
We have all kinds of rock walls in the woods here in Maine. Anybody know why they did this?
Out west we were told that they hid behind them to shoot game from ancient game trails. I think they could have been used as barriers against enemies, fences for crops and tall ones for livestock. In the Book of Mormon the last great battles of two great nation's were fought in NY. It is a fascinating history.
Book of Mormon 😂
Elbow tree ?? First I've heard them called that,normally they are called trail trees.....
I would question Scott Wolters credibility before I would believe anything he said.....
Maybe I missed it but how does a pile of rocks constitute a town/village ?
Im thinking a new interpretation is needed for that area as well as further archeological work
Mr Thornton has done extensive research and exploration in the area. The color called Mayan Blue requires an ingredient not easily found in Mexico but plentiful here. There was trade that occurred back and forth between GA and The Mayans of Mexico. The glyphs and language of the Creeks are linked directly to their Mayan connections. These factors cannot be negated.
I live here. I've found many of these stone walls over the years. I honestly couldn't recall where. I was a kid roaming around the woods. I need to go back to some of the places and try and recall my steps. I never stayed to the trails. I dunno.
I just found a cave down the road from this and found artifacts I got stoned my own carve heads of all sizes
Thanks, guys!
Terraces just do not normally loose their top soil in a few years as stated by the local guy doing the guiding. It likely took a lot of work to build them and to maintain them. But they can get abandoned due to wars and epidemics. The Cherokees dealt with the British and were supplied with firearms to aid their slaving activities; this is more likely what caused the abandonment of those terraced fields.
The mayans civilization suffered from factors that made it decline: ''When was the Mayan civilization abandoned?
In archaeology, the classic Maya collapse is the decline of the Classic Maya civilization and the abandonment of Maya cities in the southern Maya lowlands of Mesoamerica between the 7th and 9th centuries.''
Perhaps that is when they migrated to what is the now the Southeastern USA.
Why is it OK to desecrate my ancestors grave sites? Please tell me where yours are so I can repay the deed.
It may be a colonizers work. Won't know without archaeology.
Who’s desecrating graves???? And if it’s your ancestors, then feel free to fill in all the questions.
you found a pile of rocks that were the foundation to an old house ?
All georgia woods like that check how some are next to houses with similar formations check in atlanta woods
what is the clicking sound and the high pitched tone?
+Mike Smith Hey Mike sorry. It's the gimbal with the weight of the heavy lens on it. We are working on getting a mirror less camera and a smaller lens to cut that noise out.
Adventures United good video though. very interesting. ill subscride. good luck with the new camera..
+Mike Smith Thank you Sir. We will try to keep improving our future quality for sure.
What's with the knocking sound giving me headache.
Nothing about this site says it is Mayan and everything I have ever seen about it does not reflect archeological facts. You can't jump all over time and places without any evidence. Where are the other "artifacts" from the "site"? Most of those trees look to be less than 100 years old and old timers looted all the good sites long ago. Were is the artifact assemblage? Until that happens this site is only protohistoric or historic terracing and stone clearing.
BTW...the Maya are still were they were largely. Growing broccoli for your supermarket and fighting off drug cartels .
That tapping noise just couldn’t
What gets me is why did the forestry or Georgia state parks or the national forest folks whoever was in control close access to the place down and it was shortly after before that show aired on history they did not want publicity and or those folks in there although we know there was an archeologist from Georgia that was aware of that site and some others that had similar large stones with efígies carved on them in the state .
If you still do this im down im in georgia. Trying to explore but my friemds arent down georgia is the fucking spot
That's incredible!
You could ask us creek native Americans.😊
Just visit the area of stone mountain there you have it the biggest cover up of all time
Oh and the site is 1/2 square mile - 330 acres - not 52 acres
Richard Thornton Good to know! More to explore haha
Where are the artifacts?
@@bruciferburton5246 I don't know. There is also no information the artifacts excavated in the 2001 investigation, which was funded partially by the US Forest Service.
You dont have a city without artifacts.
@@bruciferburton5246 Of course . . . but the archaeologists tend to hide those artifacts from the public.
Interesting looks amazing Mayan, creek,
Cherokee it’s all we call first Nations indigenous to the north American continent call finding guys I don’t know who claims it but cool findings
That's a deer skull.
Is this a Jeep commercial?
There is a lost city north of Lincolnton
Might those stone walls simply be terraces created as Farmers were attempting to clear their fields of rocks and prevent erosion. The terraces follow the contours of the hillside. The stacked stones are most likely chimney foundations from homes. The stone carvings are most certainly prehistoric and Native American.....all but where someone carved their initials.... but I have strong reservations about rest of the items being constructed prior to 1800.
If a town exist then graves exist, also whos to say this whole thing is not a big grave yard. Indians did rituals, buried they're dead in mountains and mounds so maybe this is not a town but a retreat for rituals sacrifices.
You ruined it with that irritating tapping noise ! goodbye !
I say we go to the Witches Mound off Hwy 96 near West lake outside Warner Robins Ga if you serious contact me I'll fill you in believe me it's way off the beaten path.
Im down. When do we leave
@@brittneyworley2744 pack a lunch and bring a pair of extra drawers. Let me know when you're in Macon.
say less
well where do you think Indians came from
I like the content, but that tapping noise is really irritating.
Walk Big Springs Roswell Ga
Georgia country or Georgia state???
That's Awesome! Beautiful Rustic Landscape
That's a cool tree
Put down that tapping stick
Y'all were in Blairsville❤️. I live a few miles from trackrock.
+Tina Carson Cool Tina! Yeah we were there back in February. It was one of our first videos that we made. We have thought about going back here soon to reshoot this area and remake the video with better quality. You live in such an amazingly historic area.
I've been to Blairsville. Bought an Italian Greyhound in 92 from a guy that bred them.She was named Pesci from the movie 'My Cousin Vinnie".
Him and that man are gay for each other.
is anyone gonna start excavating this so we can see what's really there
I saw they had done some sonar from airplanes . They basically saw a temple in the side of the mountain.
@@juliajones1125 that is false.
That is what needs to happen to know what is happening there. Everything else is a guess.