Leo's Loo Too vs Litter Robot 4
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- Опубліковано 8 гру 2022
- This is easily the most in depth video I've made to date and boy is it full of information! Who knew that the $600+ cat box market would be so competitive! Today I'm putting the Litter Robot 4 by Whisker vs The Leo's Loo Too by Smarty Pear.
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Appreciate the review! I've been a Litter Robot owner for the last 12-13 years. I've owned their LR2 bubble unit and their Open Air, which I personally upgraded the circuit board when they came out with the wifi and app. I've had the last unit, which was reconditioned when I bought it, for 6 years. The motor has never died on any of mine. The only reason I've upgraded mine as time has passed is a combination of new technology being available and they do need some maintenance over time after all the day in and out abuse they take (I have 4 cats). I just retired my OA this week when I received my LR4. I agree it's not perfect, but LR has never been perfect, nor do I believe a perfect litter box exists. LR works for my household though so I continue to stick with them. In terms of customer service, this is the first time I've ever seen them struggle in all my years as a customer so I'm chalking up to a new launch and the current employment climate. I did get a hold of a rep on the phone today after about 20 minutes so I'd say they're making strides in getting back on track. I did look at the Loo when I was considering upgrading but I know for our house the my one butt-raising peer would 100% not turn around and pee outside that small box. I'm also pretty sure one of my others prefers more open spaces so that would be a no for her too. I'll definitely be keeping my eye on Loo though and look forward to seeing what they bring to the table in the future. I believe competition is a good thing. We can't forget that LR is the OG, they paved the way for the products that exist today and they will always have my respect for that.
How did you get someone on the phone? I can’t find a working phone number anywhere!
Was the board upgrade a simple plug in? Wondering if I can do mine or if you can share any information about how thanks.
honestly, this is the best review out. and I like how factual and unbiased you are. thanks for this!!
Thank you!
This review is WILDLY helpful!! Thanks for taking the time to put this together.
Thank you!
Thanks for this comparison! It really opened my eyes to what features and functions should be most important in an electronic litter box. It also helped me understand what to expect from one and what not to expect. I nearly made the wrong choice but this video changed my mind right before I purchased. Thank you.
Thanks for the comment! I'm glad it helped!
I appreciate this review so much! Thanks for taking the time to put this together.
i have been searching and searching for a video that touched on my biggest concern about getting a litterbox like this, and i finally found it! my cat has been known to use the litterbox facing away from the entrance & ends up urinating all over the floor outside. i’m so glad i came across your video because i was just about to place an order for the LR4, but i’ll be going with the leo’s loo too for this reason alone. the overall aesthetic + color options are a huge bonus for me too. thanks so much for making such a detailed comparison video- you may have just saved me hundreds of dollars and a lot of buyers remorse lol
Thanks for both the set up video for the LLT and the comparison! They were both very informative and helpful.
I don't think I've ever come across a better review video ever, for whatever product.
Thanks for all the detail, you've earned yourself a sub
Thank you very much for the kind words and the sub!
This was a great review. Thank you very much for putting the time into this.
Thank you so much!
Really appreciated the review and the unbiased approach given to both products, thank you!
Well done, nice review and thanks for the effort in putting this together!
I have the LR4 and have been quite happy with it. I did encounter sensor issues and the dreaded red light indicator in the first month. But after setting the drum correctly on the base and cleaning all sensors, it’s worked perfectly for the last 3 months. Regular maintenance is important. Also understanding how the sensors work and their location will help.
Great to see competition in this product type line, great for the consumer. If you’re thinking about getting an automated litter box, these things are well worth it.
Thank you for the comment! I'm glad the LR4 is working well! I have another one coming so we'll see how she does and I'll be sure to report back.
I’ve been researching automatic litter boxes for weeks and was leaning LLT.. thank you for this review! I hope it has longevity.
Thanks for the comment! I'm definitely hoping they are built to last also. But so far, so good!
Thank you. Absolutely hands down best side by side comparison and overall reviews of each. 👏👏
Thank you!
"The greatest gladiator match in the history of the world." -Lex Luthor
In all seriousness, fantastic analysis of both cat boxes and great video on general! Very well done!
Excellent review, thank you for creating this review. Sad to see the Leo's Loo Too is now up to $649 without the mat, $699 with the mat, would have been nice if it were still available at the lower price.
And they do not wash or flush the waste & not all homes have air conditioning throughout the home. I am trying to get far away from this repulsive task
How much did it use to be?
They have a promotion for $120 off though rn
This review is so thorough and helpful! Thank you so much
Really appreciate your commentary and in depth review of these two devices. I can tell you have cats of your own and care about the same things I do when looking at these expensive devices! Thank you! We have a litter box 3 but we are about to purchase the loo too to have a secondary litter box. Can't wait for it to come and try it out!
Thank you so much for the comment! I think you'll really enjoy the Loo Too.
How is it going? I have the LR 3 and thinking of trying the Loo Too.
It's been great! Absolutely zero complaints about the Loo Too.
Thank you for this comparison. I have been wanting the Liter box 4 for many months. Seeing your comparison with the Leo Loos Too opened my eyes. I never even heard of Smarty Pear company. I ordered the Leo Loos Too. The dimensions are even better for us for where we wanted to put it than the Liter box 4. We can't wait until it arrives. I hope our cats like it and if functions perfectly just like it has for you.
Hey, do you have any updates on the Loo?
Omg. Thank you. So much!! This is the best review ever Ive seen on youtube. I almost purchased LR4, now I am changing my mind after your review. 🎉🎉
Thank you! Definitely check out my follow up videos also. The LR4 has fixed some of it's glitches.
thanks for the review i’ve owned the LR4 about 5 months and it’s red lighted for no reason just recently - i cleaned the sensor with Q tips and seems ok now , as for the Leo i will keep my eye on it - the small collection box is a deal killer for now , i travel and have 2 cats and my LR4 goes 5 to 6 days. Thanks for all the tips!
Loved your analysis. It was so helpful!
Thank you!
Amazing review, after owning the Litter Robot 4 for 77 days and having nothing but problems we jumped ship and ordered Leos Loo! It arrived today set up was about 10 minutes and the cats seem to like it.
The only thing is this video said the mat was included with his purchase however it is not offered as a freebie but is available for purchase.
Just waiting for my return authorization from Litter Robot, they have a 90-day return policy.
You won't regret it. I really, really wish the LR4 lived up to its potential but it unfortunately has had nothing but problems.
You rocked it!! Thank You, Happy Holidays to you and yours
Thank you so much!
I had and still have the LR1 as a backup for 7 years before getting and now have had the LR3 for another 7 years. My current cat is a huge 17 lbs and would not go into the LR1 because of its small opening and inside dimensions but the LR3 is just fine. There were no problems ever with the LR1, I wish they had just left it alone but for its size, no need for all the whistles and bells, because things can go wrong which they did with the LR3. It would stop in mid-cycle, still does sometimes and I have to unplug and then replug the unit, I had to replace a cable and something else which I cant remember, but with the help of video and written instructions I could do them myself. The more gadgets and electronics you attach the more can go wrong. Nevertheless, it is certainly better than having to scoop. Yes, the Leo's Loo Too is certainly less expensive than the LR4 and I don't need all the electronics both of them have, but I do wonder: where is the Leo's Loo manufactured? The LR is made in the US.
Thank you for comparing these! I was about to order the litter robot 4 when I saw several comments on social media about customer service not only being poor but completely unresponsive, even shutting down their phones completely…. Apparently the ceo sent an apology but But many people were still waiting for replies weeks later…. Yikes. Then I read more comments from people who have had failure issues very early on, some not even working from day one. I DONT like the large opening of the robot4 because of obvious reasons…. Smell, appearance, etc…. But there aren’t many alternatives. I asked in online groups and was directed to the Leo’s loo too. Their reviews seem so much better and customer service appears to be more responsive but I still haven’t decided between the two…. I don’t really care about much except price, performance, extended warranty and customer service….
I suspect others are in an identical boat as I am so thank you for doing this!! ❤
Also…. “Beheads the poop!?!”
I’m never going to forget that phrase
😂😂😂😂
Thanks for the comments! Honestly, when I saw the poop get hacked in half all I could think of was a dark ages beheading. 😂
The Loo Too has been working great so far. I have no comaints with it.
Great review. I was just going to get the LR4 but now that I've seen this, I'm going the other way. It's gotta work all the time for $600. Thanks again.
Thank you for the comment! You won't be disappointed!
❤Me too! Thanks so much for this video!!!!
Thanks for the video. I'm convinced this is the one I'll get. I like the smaller entrance so I don't have to see so much inside.
Thanks for the video…it was exactly what I needed to see to make my decision!!
Thank you. You helped with my choice of purchasing. Very informative video.
Thank you!
Great video, very helpful and interesting.
This is a great comparison. Very helpful as I look to make my first purchase.
Thank you so much, this helps me a lot on deciding which to buy for my fur babies.
Thank you so much for the in depth review!! So helpful!! I purchased LLT a few days ago and hoping it’s worth every penny!!
Thank you for the comment! Hopefully you'll enioy it as much as I am
Thank you for this video...just got an elspet and we all couldn't get it to work...no one to call..I will look at Leo's loo too now thanks to you!
I'm curious about the litter tray issue with the LLT. Can that plastic lid that covers the tray be removed to eliminate the clumps underneath when the bag is full?
Which one did your cats like better? I like the weight feature on LR4. I ended up getting LR4 because I wanted one w/a large entrance. And my LR4 doesn't look anything like yours as far as cleanliness after 6 mo with 3 cats. Pretty clean actually. I guess different people have different experiences. I haven't had any problems w/it except sometimes cats kick litter in the sensors, which is a pain. I don't know if the Leo loo 2 has those? If it fails maybe will get Leo's Loo Too (now that they are all used to litter robots).
Great review…I started with the litter 4 and had the same issues to the point I sold it (thank goodness) and bought the Loo…I totally agree with your comparison! I am having an issue with the Loo powering off after exactly 2 min after it was used… it has consistently done this each time after use…exactly 2 min recorded in the register. So I’m contacting Loo for help. Thanks again for “telling it like it is”.
Thank you for the comment. The Loo has been working great for me as well. That powering off issue definitely sounds annoying but hopefully they'll take care of it.
Awesome video!! This video was very informative. Thank you 😊
Thank you!
Excellent video! Thank you! I have LR3 and I do enjoy it but I can’t lie it’s had issues. Still worth it not having to scoop after 3 cats everyday. However after almost 4 years I’m ready for an upgrade. LL2 seems like a great next option!
Thank you! I've had several comments where people say the LL2 is very similar to the LR3 but I've never had a 3 to mess around with so I can't confirm or deny that. But the Loo Too is still working great!
Great review! I was thinking of upgrading my old litter robot 3, but I will probably wait a bit longer to work out the kinks. My robot 3 has been great for 2 years and it was reconditioned. My 2nd reconditioned robot 3 has been a pain from day one but I can deal as they are minimal. They both cost less due to being reconditioned so that helps.
Wow, thank you for this great info! I have the LR3, and all was fine with just one cat. Then I got 2 more cats, and while I don't mind emptying the tray daily and having to clean it more (due to 3 cats vs just 1), I DO mind how much it breaks down and has to be fiddled with to make it work. I was going to get the LR4 to have two litter box options for my 3 cats, but I think I may go with the Loo instead.
Great side by side. One question- how do they compare from a safety stand point? I think the LR4 is meant to stop when it senses a kitty does the LL2 do that as well?
The LL2 definitely stops when a cat jumps in. I watched it happen just last night!
Thank you for putting out this information 👍🏼
Thanks for the great video! Did you end up trying to remove the top plastic cover on the LLT’s tray to see if it helped?
Yep! It works great without it.
I actually just got the litter robot 4 and love it. I have mine next to a Coway air purifier and It NEVER smells. I’ve also asked friends who don’t have cats to honestly tell me if they smelled cats, and they said no. Also I changed the setting on the litter robot to 15 minutes. Just changing it from the factory setting of seven minutes helped so much in clumping. The interior stays pretty clean. Thank you so much for the review. I haven’t heard of that other company. I may get a second one and looking into that one. Honestly the litter robot 4 has been worth every penny so far.
Is it still doing well ?
I also wanna know, how is your experience so far?
Thankyou for the review!!!!
@@ckmoon17 yes. Totally worth it. I am saving hundreds on kitty litter also.
@@andreatabares89 amazing. Still
Working well, and has made my life so much easier! Totally took care of the smell.
Thank you so much for the awesome review. The price on the LLT has come up and is now about the same as the LR4, so trying to decide if I want to go for it. I have to agree with you re: LR4’s support. I actually ordered a LR4 in November for delivery before/by Christmas. On the delivery day (second week of December), it went into limbo with FedEx. Contacted LR4’s support and was told that the FedEx hub was experiencing delays and to let them know if no receipt within 3 business days. No receipt via FedEx so contacted LR4 again with no response. Reached out again and was told a replacement would be sent priority with delivery by 12/30. Annnnd that didn’t happen. So I figured, ok, this is definitely a sign that the LR4 is not for me. XD.
And how has been your experience so far with it?
On the Leo Loo Too is there a way to remove the plastic top on the waste drawer and it still function? Or maybe just every couple days pull the waste drawer out and give it a shake?
Your litter robot is dirtier inside because the litter hasn't had enough time to clump and dried down, this stains the interior during rotation, try extending the litter wait time to 15 minutes and you will see the interior stains reduced significantly as the default set wait time for LR is only 7 minutes. I believe Loo interior is cleaner because of the longer wait time and litter had enough time to clump.
The Loo is set to 30 seconds out of the box. I set it to 2 minutes. The LR4 was set to the default 7 minutes. Unfortunately this isn't the case.
@@dontburnthehousedownvideosum...nothing was rude? Just offered an opinion that was straightforward. I'm not sure what's rude. Maybe presumptuous but not rude
The rude comment got deleted. I'll delete my reply to it. 😉
I have the same issue with the LR3... It gets gross so FAST! I have to do a deep clean about 1-2x a week which defeats the purpose... I'm OVER litter robot.. So many issues with it and I've had it about 2-3 years.for the price tag it should last longer.
@@stephaniefoster5064 I've had LR3 for 5 years, first 4 years hardly any issues, but this last year was a nightmare, breaks down every other month and some parts needs to be replaced or something, been costing me a lot of money, I'm not happy as well. I just replaced the dfi sensor a week ago, and been working again for 1 week, but anxious to see how this will last before another issue, so tired mentally and financially.
I have two litter robot 3s and I don't regret getting automatic boxes given the number of cats I have, but I definitely wish the Leo's loo too had been around when I bought it and that I could've watched this review. Some of the design issues have been resolved with the LR4 (namely drawer a hole design) but it looks like some of the same ones are still there. I think I'll keep an eye out for promotions with the LLT and look into getting one. Thanks for your review!
Thank you for the comment! I'm glad the 3's are working well for you. They're definitely awesome!
@@dontburnthehousedownvideos They work okay. I still get a little annoyed at having spent around $1,000 for them and they aren't better. Different hacks I've seen here on UA-cam help, and customer service, when I needed replacement parts (seems a given with whisker) were good. This was before the LR4 though. I'm looking forward to trying out the Leo's loo too.
Thank you for this video!!
so helpful!
I got the MeoWant and it's pretty good but it's just too low. And I have a hard time leaning over bc of chronic illnesses. I'm thinking about returning it and getting another box. I was looking at both the Leo's Loo and LR4. So glad I found your video! I had decided on the Litter Robot but I think you've changed my mind. This answered a lot of my questions. I was wondering, How heavy is the Leo's Loo drum compared to LR4 drum?
This video is great! I chose the LR3 over the 4 because I liked the opening better. I had not seen the Leo’s Loo Too I’m sure glad I did not buy the LR4. I hope I don’t have to buy another robot litter box soon but I would definitely consider the Leo!
Great video explaining the faults of each.
Thank you!
awesome video you helped me make my mind up Im getting the Leo
Great video man 🙌 incredibly informative
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it!
I’ve been doing so much research on the LLT, reading reviews/feedback, TikTok’s, and UA-cam reviews. Your video has most definitely been the most helpful! I do have to ask (even tho IK my experience might differ from yours) after posting this 11 months ago, how is the LLT doing today? Has the longevity lived up to the amount of money you spent originally on the product? I only ask because it’s the price I feel very iffy about!
Hope you respond soon, thanks!
Hello! The LLT has held up great! I still stand by it as a product for sure. The LR4 has definitely come along ways though also. Make sure to watch my LR4 Part 2 video. I don't think you can go wrong with either one now.
Thank you so much for this video!! I’ve been seeing to many mixed signals with the litter box 3 &4!!! I was scared of the LLT because it looked like a copy version of the litter box but with what I personally do and don’t want to deal with I’m definitely going with the LLT
Hi thank you for the video
did removing the plastic bit help with the Leo?
Yes it did! I'm still not totally in love with the size of the opening but taking that part off definitely made it more functional.
Well done review! Thank you!
Thank you!
I really like your review! I found it because I'm having issues with my 3 weeks old LR4, after the third time it has been replace, first one came with a crack from front to back, second one sensor would not work well, and this one the third one has issues with the basket weight and after spending 20 min waiting for someone to answer the phone, asked for a manager had to wait for manager to call back and she called pretty quick extended the trial period send me a gift package and sent me an email with all trouble shutting steps of your other LR$ video, fingers cross I clean the sensors and will give it three days to see how it works. Like somethings for the Leo's Loo Too, But that pup mess on the trey at the bottom and because of that basket design through me off, one thing, My LR4 doesn't get that dirty inside, that could be how much cat digs and covers pee and poop , I have set mine at 7min. Also I have an 18 year old cat and I would picture any old cat Struggling entering the small hole, plus it sits higher, the dripping of pee; I have not have an issue once, my cats walked in move around dig and usually don't pee on the front, but sides or back. Fingers cross, this thing works!. thanks again for your sincere review.
After watching the video I am also seriously thinking of Leo but some last doubts exist - I have to leave both in same room so wonder whether my cat will prefer the wider opening. Also is the Leo big enough for an 19 lb female? I saw some posts that it is great for small/medium sized cats. I plan to have 2 for one cat. Already have the LR3 and it had the drum getting stuck issue once. That’s a serious drawback if we are out of town. Plan to add one more - either a Leo or maybe just another LR3. The LR4 seems to have the same issue of sensor so why waste more $$
This is such a great video Thank You!!!
Thank you!
I have Leo Loo for two weeks. I like it very much. The company is also very good. My first unit arrived damaged, and the scale and sensors had problems. I received a replacement within 3-4 days and it's working very well. I can't compare it to anything else, but I see from other videos I chose well because my kitten pees with his but turn toward the entrance. I'm very happy so far.
You have what for 2 weeks?
@@kbotah2023 leo loo
Does the Leo Loos have replacement parts if something goes wrong? Thanks for the great review.
Thanks for the comment. I'm not entirely sure about the parts. I haven't needed any yet.
Simple, to the point. Loved it
Thank you!
Omg this was a great review. I was looking at LR4 but would rather get the Loo. Thank you!
I have two large Ragdolls and unfortunately the LLT is just not designed for larger breeds. I had to return for the LR4 which accommodates them perfectly.
very good comparison, I am right now deciding between these 2 litter box... I have a question... looks like the biggest drawback with Leo's is the bag container... does it work if you just remove the clear plastic lid? because looks like all the problem come from it
You can definitely remove the lid but the drawer is still an issue. It doesn't fit regular garbage bags but the LR4 does. In my mind, the LR4 is much better from the drawer perspective.
I’ve heard that the LLT you can’t really get replacement parts later on like with LR.
Thank you for contacting me very quickly I have tried all ,and quite a few times so ,I see if a electrician can find the faults as when it worked it was Brilliant sadly I can't understand why whiskers let so many people down ,thanks again for your support
Excellent informative review
I must say GREAT REVIEW!!!!!!!! You know I've had actually every iteration except for the latest version of litter robot I bought my 1st little robot one before they even had the window at least 16 years ago and I've had 2 of that iteration. The litter robot 2 in my opinion was their best design it had sensors but it would continue to function and go back to home. With maybe it an old clump of litter that got stuck and then it got unstuck and then it ended up in the pile of litter and I'm OK with that because at least The cats have somewhere to go if you're not home and can't reset it. The litter robot 3 is the one I've had for about the last year and it's been nothing but a headache and I've come so close to throwing them out the window and the thing is as I didn't buy 1 I didn't buy 2 I bought 3 new ones last year of litter robot 3 connect and it has gotten me so angry That I've actually kicked it around the room! And I've never ever in 63 years have I ever done something Like that to anything in my life, especially that I've spent that kind of money on. But yeah I've gotten really zero support I've contacted them I got an email back and telling me that oh you're warranties running out January 6th and it's been crickets ever since so yeah they let my warranty run out did not take care of it and I've tried the hacks that I found for covering up the litter robot 3's pinch sensor and I would say 50% it works, but when I have to check my litter Box 3 times A-day That's more than when I had a scoopable standard Basic plastic Box with no mechanism. I appreciate the fact that you really were unbiased. Me my video would say NO, NOT NOW NOT EVER CHOOSE LITTER ROBOT AGAIN.
17:23 I have 7 cats & 4 litter robot 3s - I vacuum multiple times a day and I have to wash my dyson's filter at least monthly.
With regard to LR maintence, all four have needed circuit board & sensor replacments. one of my LRs has recently been giving constant error codes and has been replaced by a litter box, and is waiting in the garage for me to troubleshoot to see if it will need another new circuit board & sensor. I'm considering an altenative if the board & sensor are shot.
I'm glad I found this video and think the LL could be the one.
Thank you for the comprehwnsive review 🎉
I wanted to add that having to replace the sensors every year or so isn't necessarily a complaint. Cat urine, poops, and litter dust create a harsh environment, so with the pinch and drawer-full sensors being near the waste drawer, it means those parts are going to take abuse. Being able to repair a $550 item myself with a $30 part is actually a selling point because it avoids obsolescence or having to dump a malfunctioning unit into a landfill. I just wanted share that part of my experience. A fully functional LR3 is a great thing and I don't regret my purchase
All I can say is wow! Thank you for your review, it was beyond helpful in my decision making! This is the first of your videos I have watched, now I've liked and subscribed and going to look for more, I really want to know if you have tried removing the plastic lid on the drawer! Thank you again!
Thank you for the comment! I did remove the lid from the drawer and it works like a champ without it.
Does the LLT have physical buttons on the unit itself (like power, etc)?
Yes. It's a single button. It powers it on/off and forces a cycle.
Thank you for providing an unbiased review. I was not familiar with the 'Leo Loo too' before watching your review. Although I'm interested in owning either unit now I find it difficult to justify the cost. The con of both units is the price.
The price has jumped up since you made this video. It must be due to inflation LOL… it was $649.99. If you are lucky you can get $20 off.
Thank you for the comment! You are absolutely right about the cost. Is the convenience worth the price? It's honestly hard to say. I do appreciate the fact that I'm not required to scoop every day and it definitely contains the odors far better than a traditional cat box. But those price tags keep getting bigger
After doing research on automatic litter boxes online, I bought the Leo's Loo Too. I have never owned an automatic litter box. I have had my LLT for just over one year. I have 2 cats. They both took to it right away and didn't even want to use their old box. My only complaint is the size of the opening to the storage box and that it does tell you a little too late when it is full. I also try to shake it before I open it but that doesn't always work. I am glad I chose the LLT. Thanks for the review.
Thank you for the comment. Remove the plastic lid on the waste drawer! It pops right off. I did it and had zero issues after that.
13:00 If you got the Loo would it still work if you removed the clear plastic lid on the tray?
Yep! I took it off and never looked back. It works better without it.
As a single cat dad of one cat, when I leave for a trip I can't really leave my cat more than a few days, so was trying to figure out if a week getaway would work out better with Litter Robot. I honestly wouldn't feel safe leaving my cat 2 weeks alone but a week away from home would really help me enjoy a proper vacation. Can either product handle a week without needing tending, such as adding more litter or the pit needing cleaning?
Hi there! I have the LR4. At first, I loved it. Was tons better than the standard, rectangular cat box I had. BUT, the problem that I'm having is my cat is a 'high' pee-er. He somehow pees right through the dump shute at the top of the drum. The pee runs down through the unit into the nooks of the base unit and also onto the floor. IT'S A MESS. Do you have any opinion on which unit you think is better for a high peeing cat? He has no health issues that would be causing this. Thank you! I've watched several of your videos.
Thank you!! One of our cats is a high pee-er also. The Loo seems to help this because the drum is smaller. It forces him to reposition a bit.
I'm looking for an automated box for my ragdoll, who I'll be picking up soon, is the Leo loo big enough for them?
The drum rides on those white bushings in the LR4.
I'm trying to figure out if I want the pet safe for around 150 and a 500 table to hide it in. Problem with the enclosure is they are almost always too small for the gen1 automatic litter boxes so the price goes up on the enclosure. Still think I like the gen 1 box but with a baby coming the enclosure will be a must.
Got the Leo loo too because of this video. I think it was the better choice, and cheaper. Works great!!
You see the two white circle thingy on the LR4 at 5:18? Those are there to support the drum. It's like those furniture sliders. I also don't think my cat would use the Leo as the opening is too small. My cat didn't like the LR3 but likes the LR4 due to the larger opening.
Thanks for the comment. I've had a few folks correct me on those Teflon nubs so yeah, I got that one wrong.
My cats started in the LR4 until it failed but they've had zero issues with the Loo. I put them side by side for a while and they only used the Loo. In the end, it's about getting the best one that works for you!
Awesome viedo!! Thank you so much. Question. How do you empty leo loo too for a deep clean? Does it have any empty cycle? 🤔 Thanks 😊
Thank you! So the LR4 has a button to reverse the drum and completely empty the Litter into the bin. However I don't believe the Loo Too has the same functionality. I just use a small cup to scoop out most of the litter by hand and then a vacuum to get the rest.
I'm excited to say, I just ordered my Blue Leo Loo Too. And it'll be here before Christmas!!! Omg.
Oh one more question. Where you able to remove the cover on the Leo Loo's litter pan?
Yes! It pops off pretty easily. The rep from the company said that design is to help with the odor control but there is nothing stopping someone from removing it.
Thank you, great video! QUESTIONS1 : Is the Leo Loo Too only operated through an app on your phone? Can it run without being connected to wifi/internet?
QUESTION 2: How many days longer can you go without emptying/replenishing the Litter Robot than the Loo Too? Thanks
1. The initial setup (to my knowledge) has to be done on a phone. There's only a single button on the LL2 so I'm not sure how much functionality there is without the app.
2. The LR4 can go longer in between emptying because of the drawer design. The LL2 requires a "shake down" every 2 days or so because the waste piles up at the opening. The LR4 has a wider opening and allows it to fall more evenly in the drawer.
@@dontburnthehousedownvideos Thank you so much! Super helpful!
Can you review the snowy+ ?
Nice review. Very informative! Were you able to remove the plastic poop cover from the loo?
Yep! I haven't noticed any difference since doing it. It just pops right off.
@@dontburnthehousedownvideos Thanks!
@@dontburnthehousedownvideos That’s what I wanted to know 😊
Hi. After removing the plastic lid on the waste container, how has it been working for you? The chute opening for the waste to fall through is still significantly smaller than that in the LR4. Do you have any problem with the waste collecting right at the opening and blocking it?
Thanks in advance for your response.
Have you tried the Loo too without the plastics piece where the litter collects? Will it work without it??
Yep! Works great!
Great review we appreciate the honest info. I am wondering how Leo’s unit is doing today since you post your video over a month.
Doing great! Not a single issue with it.
@@dontburnthehousedownvideos That's awesome!
It looks like I should go for it. My only concern is the hole/entrance size when having a big cat (like Maine Coon)
We have two pretty good sized cats and they both squeeze in there with no issues. I think that might be part of the reason why they preferred the LL2 over the LR4. A bit more privacy for when they did their business.
Will the Leo loo too work without the clear cover on the catch pan?
Yep! I took it off and it works great!
My LR3 lasted less than 3yrs and died because the sensors was fried. The contact sensors also rusted from contact with waste. But worrying that they still have all these sensors that can stop it working. One flaw I did immediately notice with the Leo's Loo Too in your review was how big the holes are in the grills. That definitely won't sift out the smaller pieces.
Fortunately they replaced those metal contacts with micro switches on the lr4.
I saw this one after I spent days researching and just pulled the trigger. I almost cancelled when it took so long but got the robot today. It's still in the box. I honestly don't want to have a mental breakdown over a faulty litter box .my back is killing me and I can go without that tonight
witch one you got and how do you like it ?
This was a awesome review! Ive been looking into LR4 for a while because we have 3 cats and travel often and I was on the fence of even purchasing a automatic litter box because I liked all the features of LR4 (top of the line comparatively) but cannot ignore all the awful reviews and comments around their lack of customer service and glitches that render it useless. You've given me hope that LL2 may be just what I was looking for. Question... how many cats use your LL2 and how often do you have to empty the pan? How often do you need to top off their litter? I'm considering getting 2 since we may be gone for a 7-10 days at the most and want to make sure they will be covered. lol
Thanks for the comment! With 3 cats you'll definitely want to get 2 if you're leaving for 7-10 days at a time. And honestly, that might still be pushing it. I've found the best litter to use is cheap, clumping cat litter from Sam's club. Anything that's "lightweight" or "99% dust free" seems to track everywhere and wastes litter. I top it off every time I change the bag out. With 2 cats, that's 4-5 days. Sometimes I'll do a pan shake in the middle to level out the poo in the drawer so it holds more.
Great video dang I really had high hopes to switch from cat genie to litter robot 4. But from this,video I see that all cat boxes have their issues so for me, the clear winner is still CatGenie.
do you actually have to keep the plastic piece on the top of the waste basket of the LLT?
I've had it off for over a month and it's working great!
What time did you set your LR4 to cycle after cat exits. Did you keep it the same as Leo (only 3 minutes)? If you kept it to 7 minutes maybe it would be cleaner? Or maybe if you keep it longer it gets more stuck to the bottom? Any thoughts on this
I initially set it to like 3 minutes but after it froze up constantly, I master reset it and kept it at factory settings.
@@dontburnthehousedownvideos Thanks. Somebody told me that actually the three minutes is optimal because leaving it longer (7+) can actually permit sticking to the bottom. One last question- Did you have both machines accessible to the cats at the same time? Did they frequently use the LR4 vs the Leo? Or the other way around? Specifically the larger cat. Thanks!
I left them both out and the cats both used the Loo. The LR4 wasn't used unless it was the only option. They seemed to just like it more.
Great review 😊
Thank you!
Hello! And thank you for such an informative review. This is just what I was looking for. You've answered all my questions but two, so if you don't mind, I'd love your opinion on these also. I've heard the LLT's drum is hard to clean in certain places and that there are problem areas, we'll say, that collect leftovers. Do you find this to be true? How often do you clean your drum in the LLT? We have two inside cats, but one is a bit overweight at about 17-18 lbs. Do you think she'd be able to fit and move around inside? Thank you so much, and I hope you can reply back. I'm ready to purchase and am leaning to the LLT, but I'd like to hear from you first. All the best! KK
Hello there! And yes, I can confirm that the LLT is a bit problematic to clean due to the inner lip of the opening ring. When you try to straight dump something out the opening, it gets stuck in the lip. However, I've alleviated this by spraying the globe with the waste opening facing down. This let's all the gunk go out that opening and not the front. We have a pretty fat kitty who clocks in around 16 lbs. She's very rotund. She has no issues getting in and out. I will say she prefers the larger opening of the LR4 but if the LLT is the only one available, she uses it without issue.
@@dontburnthehousedownvideos thanks for replying! Much appreciated and big help.