I can highlight your point exactly- only with even worse graphics- in the death of Aeris in Final Fantasy 7. That hit me harder than the Boss's death honestly.
Along with the other plethora of easter eggs, my favorite is that when you finish the game and access your memory card files, your save files' icons for MGS3 will turn into the Patriot gun and flowers similar to the one Snake laid down on her grave.
In an Industry of uniformity and standardization it's refreshing that Hideo Kojima games allow the opportunity for school yard stories to manifest from tiny little details that not everybody gets to uncover. Everyone has a unique experience in one way or another in his games. Even now many years later I see people do things in MGS2 that I had no idea were possible and I'm sure there are many more.
Wow, I though it was that by default. MGS3 was one of the 1st games I played on the PS2. So I never really had a reason to look up the memory card until it started getting full, and I had to choose things to delete.
Hmm, that's certainly food for thought, thanks for showing us that. To add to it, I would like to draw attention to the similarities between the emotions (The Cobras) and the five stages of grief, though I will admit I am reaching a bit to show parallels here, but I think it could add another layer of meaning to the game just like you originally pointed out with your comment.
@@charlieross4674 I don't think you're reaching at all! Great points! It was all a journey fortelling him not only accepting the Boss' death but the death of his principles and everything he stood for which he learned from her!
MGS3 is so much more than it seems, in every sense. It’s just as much of a philosophical heavyweight as MGS2. It’s classic hyperreality, explored in the context of alternate history and espionage. The depth of this game is legendary for a reason - there’s always a hidden mechanic or easter egg a long-time player hasn’t found yet, and I think the metanarrative and philosophy of this game might be its last secret
Excellent video. I like the multiple meanings of "Snake Eater". Snake being a US Army Special Forces soldier, one of their nicknames being snake eaters. Snake killing the members of the Cobras. The oroborous, a snake eating itself.
At last! And incredible analysis again. I have spent countless hours, probably thousands, on this game as a teenager. This game and MGS2 both strongly shaped my way of thinking, and still do today. Many thanks for your work, I can see we share some common ground with our interpretations!
Though I don't really play games that much anymore, I do believe that there is a place for them. I can say to those who think they nothing but wasted time, they don't know what they're talking about. I still remember MGS, and Son's of Liberty and now I want to play this one.
@@stevenwilliams1805 It was always older generations that claimed them as a waste of time. But that's always been the way when the younger generation finds a new way to express their art. Videogames became a way for the artists to create and for the fans to not just observe the art. They got to actively interact with it, without just observing it like paintings and sculptures in the past. I'm sure soon enough another form of expression will emerge, and we might be the ones to write it off as a waste of time. Totally missing the same aspect that our grandparents missed with videogames.
Great interpretation of each person personality and struggles. Seems that even Hideo haven't knew such deep understanding of his game could come on the light. Thanks for this, I cannot wait for The Phantom Pain.
Thank you for such an authentic and emotional display of this masterpiece game. Your passion for it bleeds through every line in your video and it seriously moved me a lot. The subject matter is so relevant today as you wonderfully displayed in your introduction mise en contexte, but how you deliver your ideas and emotions in this video (and all your videos honestly) is exceptionally remarkable to me. I watched many great retrospect of this game but this one is by far my favorite and I wanted to take time to sincerely thank you for doing such great content. Thank you and continue your amazing work!
Thank you for this video, for reminding me why those who live authentically, who strive to do the best they can, suffer at the hands of the inauthentic. I'll just have to roll with the punches and get back up when I get knocked down
Thank you so much for pushing forward and still making videos. I know your going through alot in your personal life and to still do this cant be easy. Your videos help me alot and get me thinking about stuff in a boarder sense. Keep up the great work. Love you man! ❤
I literally had a dream that you uploaded your “MGS 3 Scene” video the other night after having a moment of synchronicity and telling myself that you had the “MGS 1 Gene” video and “MGS 2 Meme” video out already, and I began to wonder when or if you were going to make the “MGS 3 Scene” video. Low and behold, you actually uploaded it earlier today. It’s just so crazy how I literally thought about this yesterday and had a dream about it the following night. I can’t wait for the next video about what MGS 4’s theme is.
Maybe you also had the dream at the time he thought of uploading it. I had something similar once. I think synchronicity is connected to our global conciousness.
5:50 don't take for granted since I'm no historian but I've heard that thing with the missiles being obsolete was actually the official excuse at the time, probably so it wouldn't look like the US was bending to the USSR, and if this is true that was pretty clever
@@ZeranZeran it's much more complicated than that but yeah, and as far as I remember, the USSR positioning the missiles in Cuba was actually in retaliation on the US missiles in Turkey. In that scale, when someone brings a big stick, you must show that you have a equally bigger stick so you can negotiate about stick limits, because if someone brings a much bigger stick everyone is fucked and you can't risk in bringing a toy stick because if the other guys noticed he will go for you. And all the sticks can fuck millions of people at once
There’s also the story from that time when the world was almost destoyed. That the Russians got a false launch warning, but that one man decided it had to be false because he expected them to know a launch would mean retaliation and equal destruction, so he didn’t retaliate. Basicly saving the world. (Something like that, don’t quote me on it.)
@Max Derat, glad to be here early, love to see you comment on easily my favourite (and probably the best) Metal gear title. Earbuds on, ready to listen!
6:48 a interesting thing is that even tho the shagohod is a different project not related to the actual metal gear schematics from Granin, the "need" for a mobile and independent nuclear platform in that world created 4 lines of "nuclear tanks", 3 (granin's original Metal gear REX, Sokolov's Shagohod and Madnar's Metal Gear) were completely unrelated and approached the task in different ways, and the last one are the experimentations with Granin's design( Pupa, Chrysalis, cocoon, Peace Walker, Zeke, Sahelanthropus, Walker gears and Battle Gear) made by Huey.
Absolutely phenomenal. This video served as a great retrospective AND one of the best MGS3 plot summaries on UA-cam. As soon as it ended all I could think was "Holy shit the MGS4 one is gonna be unbelievable."
I played this game when I was very young. The scene where you have to pull the trigger caught me off guard and I just stood there for like five minutes, trying to do something else, and then realizing that the only way forward is to do it, brought so much tears to my eyes.
I'm only at 18:11 and I just wanted to thank you for the awesome content Max. Also.. I feel a bit silly for just now noticing this, but the name snake eater, is it a reference to an Ouroboros? (Symbol for a snake eating it's own tail). Snake learned everything he knew from the boss, then had to kill her. Just a random thought, okay, back to this awesome vid.
Yeah it's Snake Eater in every sense. It's Snake literally eating snakes during Operation Snake Eater, it's Snake defeating the Cobras and 'consuming' their essences to make him a more complete soldier, it's the political military machine consuming Snake and The Boss for their own ends, it's the guilt and bitterness that eats Snake, and yes, it's the cyclical defeat of mentors by students, which later happens to Snake himself with his clone son, Snake. Just so fucking thorough and deep and clever, like everything else in this beautiful game.
Amazing video! MGS3's main theme being SCENE was hard for me to understand until a few minutes into your video and all of a sudden you had it pieced together for me. One small thing, EVA never had the real Philosopher's Legacy as Ocelot had gotten the real one and at some point The Boss was holding onto a fake (I saw in another comment you'd talk about this in MGS4). Another cool thing/theory I like to hear about is how the Cobra Unit itself was a reference to the various emotions Naked Snake has to overcome through the game: Pain, Fear, End (facing death/oblivion), Fury, Sorrow, and Joy. I think this ties into SCENE very well as a lot of the Cobra Unit comes into expecting to die (well this is true for The End I am not as sure for the others) and The Boss knew none of them would stop Naked Snake from reaching her. Those boss fights were just as much a staged drama. And The Sorrow was a SCENE unto himself with the various hallucinations and whatnot he had made Snake endure. Lastly, AMAZING ending to the video and the game. One thing I love to do because it hits so much is have this ending speech from EVA in MGS3 and jump right into a video that has the first Peace Walker ending with Big Boss' speech where he argues The Boss has betrayed him. It literally goes from "She gave her life and her honor for her native land..." to "in giving up her life she abandoned everything she was as a soldier..." to radically different views/interpretations of The Boss' sacrifice.
You are passing on these stories to a generation (or your generation) of kids and adults who never saw this, but should have. I know this is part fiction, but it's a great story based on real history. I really need to start playing Metal Gear seriously and paying attention to the details. The MGS2 Codec video on your channel is still one of the most chilling things I've ever heard. Thanks for the awesome content Max ♥. Can't wait until I can pay you, because I truly do appreciate the work you put in. Thank you.
This is a really excellent video. I was an early teenager when I played this game and, like MGS2, I was totally incapable of processing the deeper meanings but I loved these games so much. Seeing a deep dive like this makes me appreciate my naivete at the time lol.
Max, as I was doing an rhetorical annotation of Henry David Thoreau’s “Civil Disobedience,” I couldn’t help but notice a striking similarity in the narrative and claims of the essay to that of MGS3’s theme of “Scene.” The historical context is of course set during a different period than the events portrayed in MGS3, but it seems that the conflicting aspects of the Scene are touched on in both pieces. There is heavy allusion and reference to the morality (or lack of) in the personas of both soldiers in war, as well as political figures and government officials who make decisions regarding the war. If you haven’t already, this may be worth looking into further as I feel like something could be there. Not to mention this piece was an inspiration to major civil rights figures like Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr.. Kojima could have also taken interest in this as well. Just something to consider :)
A bit of a correction Max, SIGINT didn't take part in the virtuous mission and only participated in Operation Snake Eater. The Boss was responsible for information about weapons as well as camo until her supposed defection.
Beating this game for the first time and just standing above boss and realizing that I’m the one that has to hit the button to finish her ........there’s just not words to describe the feeling back then
Perfection ... to this I can describe in summary this excellent analysis and retrospective of this great game. Your analyzes and reviews of the different entries in this franchise are excellent, even more so when you cross them with real issues such as politics.
After the final battle, I think that you could have mentioned that the player has to actively press a button on the controller. i.m.o this adds a lot to the story. Otherwise, great video and great retrospective of the series.
You say you only make video’s when you have an original idea about it. And this is definitely the best description of the “scene” theme I have seen! As always; well done!
I played MGS3 on 3DS and it was the first MGS game i ever played the only problem was i was really young so i didnt get what the message or overall theme of the series was i thought it was just “fun sneaky jungle game” but then when i started getting older and playing the other games i realised the importance of this game and its message its a masterpiece and my favourite game of all time. Good job on this vid youre definitely under appreciated in the youtube scene👍🏻
Who knew the most authentic heroic person would be someone so loyal to be pawn for the machine the cog belong to. Feels odly familiar theme from any prespective
Watching in the middle of essay writing. How can you write better essays than me and play games better than me? The content of this video is superb, we need gamers like you.
13:50 I never realized that The Boss was so strong she carried two cases that each almost flipped over the bridge demonstrating her power and dramatic weight of the scene at the same time. Amazing
The entire third act of this game (returning to Grozny Grad and onward) is just an absolute symphony. One of the most satisfying pieces of storytelling I've seen in any medium.
Using the sneaking suit while fighting The Boss is amazing. Her's is pure shiny white, and the one Snake gets is pure shiny black but with red/orange bands around the arms and legs. But to see the 2 characters, in their iwn sneaking suit with opposes the other, black vs white, master vs student, you'd think "good vs evil" would fit but that couldn't be farther from true. Omg if you haven't, go find that suit where you hid Raikov, and fight The Boss with it. It is pure cinema. Plus it has a decently high camo index, lowers stamina consumption by a ton, and halves all damage.
The scale of the lies in the world is horrifying. I remember in one of your MGS2 streams being asked was SCENE meant for MGS3. All that came for me were the gameplay applications of that theme. Hope whoever asked me now knows the story implications
THIS...is truly the way to fall. After no once kept up from hell hole that they digged both Snake, Eva Ocelot and the rest of most gurtful is Snake himself. Man, this hurts so bad.
I don’t know if anyone has ever asked this question but, how do you think The Boss would react to Jack and the monster he would become during Phantom Pain with using Venom Snake just as the CIA used her, and risking the safety of the world to achieve his dream and try to change the world the way he saw fit instead of sacrificing himself to keep the world as it was. I can’t help but think that she would be disappointed during that period of time from PP to MG2, but I’m curious to know your thoughts if you want to reply, and thank you for all of your hard work creating great videos on this great series.
Metal gear solid 3 reminds me of classic samurai films, but in the context of western spy / war films. Especially fighting your mentor in a field of flowers. Iconic Japanese imagery Also i always admired how the boss fights you on equal footing, using nothing but cqc and her weapon of choice. A true warrior of honor The assassination of her character plays so perfectly with the themes of mgs2, especially the control of information via context. Its one thing to make social commentary like kojima brilliantly does in mgs2, its another to craft a smooth narrative that plays into the themes of the previous game, and really makes you feel emotionally invested in the truth... only to see it warped to suit the narrative thats deemed to be truth by those without morals The anger and injustice you and snake feel is unreal, they did her so dirty and no one will ever know the truth. Perfectly cements what was discussed in mgs2 as valid. Kojima is a mad man
The cia recover half of the legacy thanks to ocelot, the boss, and big boss. *SPOILER* In portable ops ocelot assassinates cia director and obtains other half of the legacy. He and zero would then use it to fund creation of the patriots.
For quick reference MGS 1 - Gene MGS 2 - Meme MGS 3 - Scene MGS 4 - Sense MGS 5 - Race/Revenge MGS:Peace Walker - Peace I wonder if Kojima has a word for Death Stranding?
I havnt heard or seen anything about Portable Ops, but for Revengeance, maybe "Nature" or "Meme" again even though MGS 2 did a better job of using that theme. I'm sure Max would have a much easier time at creating themes for both of those games lol
Metal gear 3 was one of my first game that i ever play and beat i actually as time Friday October 27 1:3 7 i had beaten it and it made me cry i love this game and no matter what happened to this series it will always have a place in my heart
ocelot definitely had been using revolvers even before snake said what he said to him, from the spurs on his boots to the tricks he was doing with the automatic pistol, ocelot is very interesting
I know, man. Even as I played the game again, and wrote the script, I felt myself getting emotional. Metal Gear Solid 3 is the ONLY game I have ever played that brought me to tears.
Not only is this my favorite game in the series (don't worry, 2 is very close), but also one of my favorite games of all time. It stands amongst the greats.
Watching this ending brings a tear to my eye even more than 15 years later. Proof u don't need cutting edge graphics to convey emotions
Only one tear? Man's made of stone.
Funny cos’ at the time these graphics were at the cutting edge.
This game has truly aged like wine
I can highlight your point exactly- only with even worse graphics- in the death of Aeris in Final Fantasy 7. That hit me harder than the Boss's death honestly.
I mean when you really think about it every time Kojima released a MGS title he pushed the limits of whatever game system he was using
Along with the other plethora of easter eggs, my favorite is that when you finish the game and access your memory card files, your save files' icons for MGS3 will turn into the Patriot gun and flowers similar to the one Snake laid down on her grave.
I think the Metal Gear Solid games will go down in history as king when it comes to easter eggs... at least 2 and 3 will.
In an Industry of uniformity and standardization it's refreshing that Hideo Kojima games allow the opportunity for school yard stories to manifest from tiny little details that not everybody gets to uncover. Everyone has a unique experience in one way or another in his games. Even now many years later I see people do things in MGS2 that I had no idea were possible and I'm sure there are many more.
Wow, I though it was that by default. MGS3 was one of the 1st games I played on the PS2. So I never really had a reason to look up the memory card until it started getting full, and I had to choose things to delete.
@Commander Graham i thought the imagery was self explainatory; maybe he thought the same?
What was the memory card save icon prior to defeating the Boss then?
He endured his Pain, conquered his Fear, unleashed his Fury, accepted the End, succumbed to his Sorrow...
And killed his only Joy.
Holy shit.
Get out of here
Dude
Hmm, that's certainly food for thought, thanks for showing us that. To add to it, I would like to draw attention to the similarities between the emotions (The Cobras) and the five stages of grief, though I will admit I am reaching a bit to show parallels here, but I think it could add another layer of meaning to the game just like you originally pointed out with your comment.
@@charlieross4674 I don't think you're reaching at all! Great points! It was all a journey fortelling him not only accepting the Boss' death but the death of his principles and everything he stood for which he learned from her!
MGS3 is so much more than it seems, in every sense. It’s just as much of a philosophical heavyweight as MGS2. It’s classic hyperreality, explored in the context of alternate history and espionage. The depth of this game is legendary for a reason - there’s always a hidden mechanic or easter egg a long-time player hasn’t found yet, and I think the metanarrative and philosophy of this game might be its last secret
I agree. This game set the bar so high, every Kojima game that came since was disapointing, even tho they were all good games
Mgs3 - hyper reality
Mgs2 - question reality
@@junior1388666 4 is not a good game.
@@PikeBishop1 your right, 4 was the best
4 was a glorious mess@@thomasvettikad
"Most people don't really care about the truth, we only care about who can play the lie best" Damn
Americans
Thank you for making one of my all time favourite games even better, this retrospective was expertly executed. Gotta check out the others now!
Pro trick : watch movies at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching loads of movies lately.
@Kyler Stanley Yup, I've been using Flixzone for since november myself =)
@Kyler Stanley yup, been using flixzone for since december myself :)
29:09
I’m not crying... my heart just started bleeding...
The bleeding hearts and the artists make their stand.
So just another tuesday?
Excellent video. I like the multiple meanings of "Snake Eater". Snake being a US Army Special Forces soldier, one of their nicknames being snake eaters. Snake killing the members of the Cobras. The oroborous, a snake eating itself.
It's named Snake Eater because he eats a snake lol.
@@KasumiRINA his point is meta. Your point is superficial and sophomoric.
@@KasumiRINA objectively wrong.
@@KasumiRINAits cuz his miision was called op snake eater
It always makes me sad... that is one of the best parts of mgs3 hence why I love it.
At last! And incredible analysis again. I have spent countless hours, probably thousands, on this game as a teenager. This game and MGS2 both strongly shaped my way of thinking, and still do today.
Many thanks for your work, I can see we share some common ground with our interpretations!
These games are beyond important.
This is one of the new “great works of art”, the ones from our generation.
Though I don't really play games that much anymore, I do believe that there is a place for them. I can say to those who think they nothing but wasted time, they don't know what they're talking about. I still remember MGS, and Son's of Liberty and now I want to play this one.
@@stevenwilliams1805 It was always older generations that claimed them as a waste of time. But that's always been the way when the younger generation finds a new way to express their art. Videogames became a way for the artists to create and for the fans to not just observe the art. They got to actively interact with it, without just observing it like paintings and sculptures in the past. I'm sure soon enough another form of expression will emerge, and we might be the ones to write it off as a waste of time. Totally missing the same aspect that our grandparents missed with videogames.
Great interpretation of each person personality and struggles. Seems that even Hideo haven't knew such deep understanding of his game could come on the light.
Thanks for this, I cannot wait for The Phantom Pain.
Thank you for such an authentic and emotional display of this masterpiece game. Your passion for it bleeds through every line in your video and it seriously moved me a lot. The subject matter is so relevant today as you wonderfully displayed in your introduction mise en contexte, but how you deliver your ideas and emotions in this video (and all your videos honestly) is exceptionally remarkable to me. I watched many great retrospect of this game but this one is by far my favorite and I wanted to take time to sincerely thank you for doing such great content. Thank you and continue your amazing work!
16 years later and i still get all up in my feels seeing this ending. i don't think any other game has gotten me that way and probably ever will
Thank you for this video, for reminding me why those who live authentically, who strive to do the best they can, suffer at the hands of the inauthentic. I'll just have to roll with the punches and get back up when I get knocked down
That's when heroes and legends are made... the people who remain authentic in the face of evil.
Thank you so much for pushing forward and still making videos. I know your going through alot in your personal life and to still do this cant be easy. Your videos help me alot and get me thinking about stuff in a boarder sense. Keep up the great work. Love you man! ❤
Absolutely beautiful. I'm literally in tears as I finish watching the video. Incredible work and videos as always, Max.
Thank you so much for this Max. MGS3 is a milestone in my life, something that i'm really grateful of. Thanks
Another solid video Max! Can’t wait for the next part of your MGS2 stream!! You, Steve, and Patrick are quite the entertaining combination 😆
I literally had a dream that you uploaded your “MGS 3 Scene” video the other night after having a moment of synchronicity and telling myself that you had the “MGS 1 Gene” video and “MGS 2 Meme” video out already, and I began to wonder when or if you were going to make the “MGS 3 Scene” video. Low and behold, you actually uploaded it earlier today. It’s just so crazy how I literally thought about this yesterday and had a dream about it the following night. I can’t wait for the next video about what MGS 4’s theme is.
Maybe you also had the dream at the time he thought of uploading it. I had something similar once. I think synchronicity is connected to our global conciousness.
@@hurmzz we are coterminous.
Synchronicity lol
5:50 don't take for granted since I'm no historian but I've heard that thing with the missiles being obsolete was actually the official excuse at the time, probably so it wouldn't look like the US was bending to the USSR, and if this is true that was pretty clever
So the Missiles were actually ready to fire? Woah. Politics is like a bunch of mind games and reverse psychology with world leaders. a bit silly
@@ZeranZeran it's much more complicated than that but yeah, and as far as I remember, the USSR positioning the missiles in Cuba was actually in retaliation on the US missiles in Turkey. In that scale, when someone brings a big stick, you must show that you have a equally bigger stick so you can negotiate about stick limits, because if someone brings a much bigger stick everyone is fucked and you can't risk in bringing a toy stick because if the other guys noticed he will go for you. And all the sticks can fuck millions of people at once
There’s also the story from that time when the world was almost destoyed. That the Russians got a false launch warning, but that one man decided it had to be false because he expected them to know a launch would mean retaliation and equal destruction, so he didn’t retaliate. Basicly saving the world. (Something like that, don’t quote me on it.)
@@hurmzz I believe your right.
@@hurmzz The officer who saved the world was Stanislav Petrov.
He passed away some three years ago.
Amazing video dude, never played the game but im glad i watched this, almost brought a tear in my eye :')
@Max Derat, glad to be here early, love to see you comment on easily my favourite (and probably the best) Metal gear title. Earbuds on, ready to listen!
6:48 a interesting thing is that even tho the shagohod is a different project not related to the actual metal gear schematics from Granin, the "need" for a mobile and independent nuclear platform in that world created 4 lines of "nuclear tanks", 3 (granin's original Metal gear REX, Sokolov's Shagohod and Madnar's Metal Gear) were completely unrelated and approached the task in different ways, and the last one are the experimentations with Granin's design( Pupa, Chrysalis, cocoon, Peace Walker, Zeke, Sahelanthropus, Walker gears and Battle Gear) made by Huey.
Absolutely phenomenal. This video served as a great retrospective AND one of the best MGS3 plot summaries on UA-cam. As soon as it ended all I could think was "Holy shit the MGS4 one is gonna be unbelievable."
I played this game when I was very young. The scene where you have to pull the trigger caught me off guard and I just stood there for like five minutes, trying to do something else, and then realizing that the only way forward is to do it, brought so much tears to my eyes.
I'm only at 18:11 and I just wanted to thank you for the awesome content Max.
Also.. I feel a bit silly for just now noticing this, but the name snake eater, is it a reference to an Ouroboros? (Symbol for a snake eating it's own tail). Snake learned everything he knew from the boss, then had to kill her. Just a random thought, okay, back to this awesome vid.
Snake learned everything from Big Boss, then had to kill him. :D Thanks for the kind words, man. :)
Yes it is, also didn’t notice until not too long ago..😅
Yeah it's Snake Eater in every sense. It's Snake literally eating snakes during Operation Snake Eater, it's Snake defeating the Cobras and 'consuming' their essences to make him a more complete soldier, it's the political military machine consuming Snake and The Boss for their own ends, it's the guilt and bitterness that eats Snake, and yes, it's the cyclical defeat of mentors by students, which later happens to Snake himself with his clone son, Snake. Just so fucking thorough and deep and clever, like everything else in this beautiful game.
It's possible. The term 'snake eater' is used for members of special operations forces, so I always assumed it was just a reference to that.
This analysis was so amazing thank you for taking me on this crazy amazing ride once more.
Amazing video! MGS3's main theme being SCENE was hard for me to understand until a few minutes into your video and all of a sudden you had it pieced together for me. One small thing, EVA never had the real Philosopher's Legacy as Ocelot had gotten the real one and at some point The Boss was holding onto a fake (I saw in another comment you'd talk about this in MGS4).
Another cool thing/theory I like to hear about is how the Cobra Unit itself was a reference to the various emotions Naked Snake has to overcome through the game: Pain, Fear, End (facing death/oblivion), Fury, Sorrow, and Joy. I think this ties into SCENE very well as a lot of the Cobra Unit comes into expecting to die (well this is true for The End I am not as sure for the others) and The Boss knew none of them would stop Naked Snake from reaching her. Those boss fights were just as much a staged drama. And The Sorrow was a SCENE unto himself with the various hallucinations and whatnot he had made Snake endure.
Lastly, AMAZING ending to the video and the game. One thing I love to do because it hits so much is have this ending speech from EVA in MGS3 and jump right into a video that has the first Peace Walker ending with Big Boss' speech where he argues The Boss has betrayed him. It literally goes from "She gave her life and her honor for her native land..." to "in giving up her life she abandoned everything she was as a soldier..." to radically different views/interpretations of The Boss' sacrifice.
Obrigado .. eu estava atrás dessa parte da história que senti estar faltando rs!!!
You are passing on these stories to a generation (or your generation) of kids and adults who never saw this, but should have. I know this is part fiction, but it's a great story based on real history. I really need to start playing Metal Gear seriously and paying attention to the details. The MGS2 Codec video on your channel is still one of the most chilling things I've ever heard. Thanks for the awesome content Max ♥. Can't wait until I can pay you, because I truly do appreciate the work you put in. Thank you.
This is a really excellent video. I was an early teenager when I played this game and, like MGS2, I was totally incapable of processing the deeper meanings but I loved these games so much. Seeing a deep dive like this makes me appreciate my naivete at the time lol.
I like how the Boss's presence on the bridge both literally and figuratively destabilizes Snake.
I've been waiting long for this, im so excited!
This was my favorite game as a kid because of gameplay. Now it my fav as an adult because of this video
Max, as I was doing an rhetorical annotation of Henry David Thoreau’s “Civil Disobedience,” I couldn’t help but notice a striking similarity in the narrative and claims of the essay to that of MGS3’s theme of “Scene.” The historical context is of course set during a different period than the events portrayed in MGS3, but it seems that the conflicting aspects of the Scene are touched on in both pieces. There is heavy allusion and reference to the morality (or lack of) in the personas of both soldiers in war, as well as political figures and government officials who make decisions regarding the war. If you haven’t already, this may be worth looking into further as I feel like something could be there. Not to mention this piece was an inspiration to major civil rights figures like Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr.. Kojima could have also taken interest in this as well. Just something to consider :)
Your content is very high quality bro. I'm totally impressed and hooked on your channel. Keep up the good work. You will grow for sure.
A bit of a correction Max, SIGINT didn't take part in the virtuous mission and only participated in Operation Snake Eater. The Boss was responsible for information about weapons as well as camo until her supposed defection.
Wow, Max, this script was amazing thank you so much for the video
Fantastic video. The introduction alone deserves many thumbs up! Great essay!
Splendidly put together Max, congratulations
"All the world's a stage..." We can choose to play it and succumb to its consequences and futility, or not and instead forsake and forgo our existence
Another great video helping newcomers like myself understand the depth of the MGS series. Thanks max
Welcome back! I hope you are hanging in there. I know the world is on fire, but at least we have videogames.
I love seeing people having the same passion for this series as I do...great video.
Thankyou for making this Max
Beating this game for the first time and just standing above boss and realizing that I’m the one that has to hit the button to finish her ........there’s just not words to describe the feeling back then
Tasty! I want some more! Seriously though, had to pause a vid and make some tea to refresh my thoughts... Thanks for making these.
Perfection ... to this I can describe in summary this excellent analysis and retrospective of this great game. Your analyzes and reviews of the different entries in this franchise are excellent, even more so when you cross them with real issues such as politics.
After the final battle, I think that you could have mentioned that the player has to actively press a button on the controller. i.m.o this adds a lot to the story. Otherwise, great video and great retrospective of the series.
I couldn't do it, and the game pulled the trigger for me :(((
I am here to offer my full support of this channel.
:does Big Boss salute:
You say you only make video’s when you have an original idea about it.
And this is definitely the best description of the “scene” theme I have seen!
As always; well done!
I played MGS3 on 3DS and it was the first MGS game i ever played the only problem was i was really young so i didnt get what the message or overall theme of the series was i thought it was just “fun sneaky jungle game” but then when i started getting older and playing the other games i realised the importance of this game and its message its a masterpiece and my favourite game of all time. Good job on this vid youre definitely under appreciated in the youtube scene👍🏻
Awesome video ! Your MGS videos are quality stuff. Thank you.
Who knew the most authentic heroic person would be someone so loyal to be pawn for the machine the cog belong to. Feels odly familiar theme from any prespective
Years later and I'm still shedding tears to that ending... amazing content as always, Max.
Thank you for you videos Max.
The only game to this day to make me tear up. What a masterpiece
What a nice intro, Max! I love it to death!!!!!!!
Watching in the middle of essay writing. How can you write better essays than me and play games better than me? The content of this video is superb, we need gamers like you.
13:50
I never realized that The Boss was so strong she carried two cases that each almost flipped over the bridge demonstrating her power and dramatic weight of the scene at the same time. Amazing
The entire third act of this game (returning to Grozny Grad and onward) is just an absolute symphony. One of the most satisfying pieces of storytelling I've seen in any medium.
This is breaking my heart 💜❤️ again. Crying again. Soft calm crying. Epic story within h historic events. Moral and ethics and hard reality mixed.
The Snake Eater song is one of the greatest songs in all of video game history.
Thank you so much for this!
The Boss NEVER begged for mercy.
3:27
I swear I got the dark knight flashbacks right there...
Everyone did :)
Beautiful video, thank you.
Using the sneaking suit while fighting The Boss is amazing. Her's is pure shiny white, and the one Snake gets is pure shiny black but with red/orange bands around the arms and legs. But to see the 2 characters, in their iwn sneaking suit with opposes the other, black vs white, master vs student, you'd think "good vs evil" would fit but that couldn't be farther from true. Omg if you haven't, go find that suit where you hid Raikov, and fight The Boss with it. It is pure cinema. Plus it has a decently high camo index, lowers stamina consumption by a ton, and halves all damage.
Snake Eater was always my favorite of MGS.
It’s a good prequel.
Art is beautiful, when done right. Behold the true artists out there. I lack any such talent but can appreciate and recognize when good.
Bravo! A masterpiece awesome content.
Wow! Tremendous work.
The scale of the lies in the world is horrifying.
I remember in one of your MGS2 streams being asked was SCENE meant for MGS3. All that came for me were the gameplay applications of that theme. Hope whoever asked me now knows the story implications
THIS...is truly the way to fall. After no once kept up from hell hole that they digged both Snake, Eva Ocelot and the rest of most gurtful is Snake himself. Man, this hurts so bad.
I don’t know if anyone has ever asked this question but, how do you think The Boss would react to Jack and the monster he would become during Phantom Pain with using Venom Snake just as the CIA used her, and risking the safety of the world to achieve his dream and try to change the world the way he saw fit instead of sacrificing himself to keep the world as it was. I can’t help but think that she would be disappointed during that period of time from PP to MG2, but I’m curious to know your thoughts if you want to reply, and thank you for all of your hard work creating great videos on this great series.
I’m 31, just beat this masterpiece for the first time! Can’t wait to play mgs4 😅
I've been waiting for this
That final button press for The Boss was the hardest thing I’ve ever had to do as a gamer.
Metal gear solid 3 reminds me of classic samurai films, but in the context of western spy / war films. Especially fighting your mentor in a field of flowers. Iconic Japanese imagery
Also i always admired how the boss fights you on equal footing, using nothing but cqc and her weapon of choice. A true warrior of honor
The assassination of her character plays so perfectly with the themes of mgs2, especially the control of information via context.
Its one thing to make social commentary like kojima brilliantly does in mgs2, its another to craft a smooth narrative that plays into the themes of the previous game, and really makes you feel emotionally invested in the truth... only to see it warped to suit the narrative thats deemed to be truth by those without morals
The anger and injustice you and snake feel is unreal, they did her so dirty and no one will ever know the truth. Perfectly cements what was discussed in mgs2 as valid.
Kojima is a mad man
This really reminds me of “What’s that fairy disguise” scene
I thought that Ocelot got the real philosophers legacy? Hence that recording at the very end.
The cia recover half of the legacy thanks to ocelot, the boss, and big boss.
*SPOILER*
In portable ops ocelot assassinates cia director and obtains other half of the legacy. He and zero would then use it to fund creation of the patriots.
For quick reference
MGS 1 - Gene
MGS 2 - Meme
MGS 3 - Scene
MGS 4 - Sense
MGS 5 - Race/Revenge
MGS:Peace Walker - Peace
I wonder if Kojima has a word for Death Stranding?
What do you think the hypothetical theme for Portable Ops and Revengeance's themes are?
connection
I havnt heard or seen anything about Portable Ops, but for Revengeance, maybe "Nature" or "Meme" again even though MGS 2 did a better job of using that theme. I'm sure Max would have a much easier time at creating themes for both of those games lol
Walking
Connection amongst Humanity is definitely the theme of DS.
Snake doesn't say that the engravings REDUCE Ocelot's tactical advantage, he says engravings don't GIVE him any tactical advantage whatsoever.
21:25 Okay I just wanna confirm, you do know that during Ocelot and Snake's encounter he was already Adam, right?
Metal gear 3 was one of my first game that i ever play and beat i actually as time Friday October 27 1:3 7 i had beaten it and it made me cry i love this game and no matter what happened to this series it will always have a place in my heart
9:35 Snake was at Bikini Atoll, not Nevada.
never beat the game but HOLY F the end just gave me goosebumps. woweeew.
ocelot definitely had been using revolvers even before snake said what he said to him, from the spurs on his boots to the tricks he was doing with the automatic pistol, ocelot is very interesting
man this is hard to watch without crying my eyes out
I know, man. Even as I played the game again, and wrote the script, I felt myself getting emotional. Metal Gear Solid 3 is the ONLY game I have ever played that brought me to tears.
Not only is this my favorite game in the series (don't worry, 2 is very close), but also one of my favorite games of all time. It stands amongst the greats.
Mgs2 - question reality
Mgs3 - hyper reality
I love how he showed Corbyn when he was talking about lies 😂
10:55 Was so caught up in their reunion that I didn't realize I stopped listening.
Damn! That's the most tears i've shed for a fictional character. Props for a fantastic video!
Isn't the "scene" the same as "create context" as patriots suggestions in mgs2?
Once you upload a Retrospective about MGS4, ill re-watch all four of them to give myself a deep analysis about the series though your videos.
The Boss will never be forgotten by us. A true hero. A true patriot. Loyalty to the end, boss.
Did ocelot and grey fox ever meet before the ninja cut his arm off?
I think they would have gotten along.
Wasn't the HALO jump done first by Naked Snake? Zero literally says it in the first mission. The world's first HALO jump.
Ocelot has to be one my favorite characters in gaming
Fucking love this game. Incredible video thank you