Bench getting playing time is called player development. Other teams rookies are way ahead of ours bcuz they are battle tested, which pays dividends for the playofffs. Allow Koleck and Hackporti to go. Hackporti is a beast - the goon we need in the paint. But Thibs is stubborn to a fault
Everybody just needs to calm down.. This is a two yo three process, and we are officially in year one... Let us get to the summer to look at filling out our bench. Eazzzy..
My expectations for the Knicks this season is out the window. We now know they are definitely not contenders. We're a first round playoff team pretty much. After actually being contenders last season.
We are one piece away, an interior D beast. I would say Robinson coming back could suffice but at this point I just don’t trust his ability to stay in the court
@bigsr.644 The problem here is that "give them time" wasn't the plan coming into this season and it CERTAINLY wasn't the plan behind the trade. If "time" was the plan, then we were an ECF team last season and tanked to set ourselves back again?
Your crazy if you think mitch isn't going to get injured after about 20 games. He's never been reliable and he ain't going to just magically become dependable.
Ever since OG was available from the Raptors and arrived here, OG expressed his desire to be a bigger part of the team offensively. You saw some of that in the playoffs especially his great performance in the Sixers series and you can make the argument that if OG doesn't get hurt, we play Boston in the ECF. Fast forward the acquisition of Towns and Bridges along with OG's play while Bridges was stinking up the joint. OG is now the 4th option and playing better defense that Bridges could lead to a little resentment. If OG feels the "NOVA" boys going to do them then why not me?
OG needs to humble down and not worry about stats... there are 3 proven scorers in front of him.. he should have established that role in Toronto with less Offensive talent and still didn't... so he needs to relax.. u watch his offensive game.. its versatile buut not explosive... his average is around where I see his game at... if he's averaging 25.. i don't think the team is as good.. because you're prioritizing his offense over guys like KAT JB and MB..
OG doesn't create a lot off the dribble. He seems to passive. Towns was out the other night against the sixers. OG should have been more aggressive offensively.
OG has played decent on offense and good on defense so I really think it’s Towns who deserves the criticism. He’s a liability on defense which is not new news but he has to buckle down and tighten up his defense. To many stupid fouls
Towns is playing at an MVP level and leads the league in Rebounding. He is the least of our worries. we are 27-15. The issue is zero bench and Thibs coaching style. This team is gonna be judges in the playoffs not in Mid Jan
Our bench should've been being developed during the season and in the G league. So come playoffs we would get past the second and have a deep team and match-up problems . Thibs! Is hurting the team 4th qt no legs
Ya all panicking this the best half of season record we had in along time and especially under thugs check that last season after 41 games yes we subpar vs teams over 500 but come playoff I believe we will be better defensively cus offensively we top 2 in the league in rating
They look tired! No legs in the 4th. Need to rest some guys. Losing games they should have won now they can’t rest players! Horrible usage. Unreal no bench Should have called Dwight Howard! There’s veterans they can get just so lazy with the thought!
Its a sad state of affairs when there are still weeks of NFL playoffs remaining and wfan are already scraping the NBA/Knicks barrel for talking points. No one cares about the NBA.
Thibs is a bad Headcoach. Hes only a great assistant coach. His problem is he runs down his starters to the grond with minutes. By the time they reach playoffs these guys are worn out. Fire Thibs!!!!
So who do you think should coach the teams? And how many rings did they win? When did we lose a series due to being worn out? I recall us losing due to injury. Randall and Mitchell didn’t get injured because they were worn out. Og has been injured his whole career.
@Ceas718 How many Championships has he won being Headcoach? Didn't he have a GREAT young Bulls team and they got their asses kicked in th playoffs because they were worn out. Wasn't he the one who kept a MVP on the floor for no damn reason because they were getting killed and ended up tearing his ACL and from that point on Rose never was the same.
@@bigblue2723 you never answered my question. Instead you answered my question with a question. But to answer your question he’s in the process of trying to win a chip now. You start with continuity and building year by year. He took us from 17 wins to the 4th seed in the playoffs with Randle and a bag of chips. Which is why he was the coach of the year. He than took us to the 2nd seed 50 win team while getting the most out of every player. He is responsible for the growth and development of Randle, Kat, Brunson, Hart, Rj, Quickly, Harkenstein, Divo, McBride, Og , Rose, Butler, Noah etc. we are now the Third seed in the east and 5th in the nba. As far as the previous bulls teams that was his first time coaching and he won coach of the year in his 2nd season with them and loss to the big 3. In fact everyone lost to the big 3. That team also over achieved especially after Rose got injured. A team that included Rose Deng Noah Boozer Bogans Thomas Gibson Brewer Watson Korver and a few no names is not a great roster he just got more out of a bunch of role players with the exception of boozer and rose. He took them from the 8th seed to the 1st seed in 1year. From 33 wins to 62 wins in 2years. Rose injury was due to his high flying play style not due to mins played. Y’all couch coaches need to fall back and let him cook. The players aren’t complaining so why are you?
The Knicks should have made three moves from prior seasons: Acquire Donovan Mitchell, trade Mitchell Robinson, and sign Kenny Atkinson. I like Bridges a lot, but I like Mitchell better. Leon should have kept Jalen Duren and traded Robinson to Detroit. Atkinson is a better coach than Thibs and Atkinson does good work with young talent, while Thibs is adverse to rookies. It's too late, and it is what it is.
I dont see how Mitch coming back helps. KAT is balling at the 5. Leading the league in the rebounds. Providing a post presence. Its going to be another T-Wolves Rudy situation.
We need defense and Sal and low IQ basketball fans want to trade the best pick and roll defender in a pick and roll roll league , the best big in boxing out and the best offensive rebounder in the league , who shoots 70% 8.5 points on only 4.8 shots 8.5 boards 1.8 blocks 1.2 steals in 24 minutes ! At 30 minutes it would be a double double 70% 2 blocks 1.5 steals ! Ridiculous he isn’t being traded
Mitch can guard Embiid a bit and the Greek Freak. With Robinson, Hart, Achuiwa, and Kat, that's a lot of rebounding big bodies to contend with for anybody.
Bench getting playing time is called player development. Other teams rookies are way ahead of ours bcuz they are battle tested, which pays dividends for the playofffs. Allow Koleck and Hackporti to go. Hackporti is a beast - the goon we need in the paint. But Thibs is stubborn to a fault
Everybody just needs to calm down.. This is a two yo three process, and we are officially in year one... Let us get to the summer to look at filling out our bench. Eazzzy..
@@garyclemons110 who told you it was a 2-3 year process. We’ve been waiting 30 years
Hart was referring to the head coach
My expectations for the Knicks this season is out the window. We now know they are definitely not contenders. We're a first round playoff team pretty much. After actually being contenders last season.
We overachieved last year
@gatsby456 So when we're doing good, we're really doing bad? And when we're doing bad, we're really doing better? Plz explain
We are one piece away, an interior D beast. I would say Robinson coming back could suffice but at this point I just don’t trust his ability to stay in the court
Give them time
@bigsr.644 The problem here is that "give them time" wasn't the plan coming into this season and it CERTAINLY wasn't the plan behind the trade. If "time" was the plan, then we were an ECF team last season and tanked to set ourselves back again?
It’s all about the playoffs. These players will be ready when the games matter. Especially when Mitch Rob is back. M Rob is a 1st team defender.
Your crazy if you think mitch isn't going to get injured after about 20 games. He's never been reliable and he ain't going to just magically become dependable.
Yah…thibbs may run 45 min with Mitch 1st game coming out of injury…
dont put it past him
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I think we gamble on Robinson but strengthen the wing players. We need to get more athletic and longer on the wing to sure up the depth and defense.
Time to call up TJ Warren…I mean he did have 35 points yesterday for Westchester
They can’t make the call for TJ Warren until March because he’s not on a vet minimum and the contract must be prorated
Knicks need to beef up the bench and get a healthy rim protector that has some type of offensive game.
The Knicks need to trade Thibbs for Johnny Bryant.
TJ Warren would be a good 6 man with his scoring.
They let nick richards go to the suns for nothing. They messed up.
Give me Mark Jackson. Rose! You killing us, if Thibs won't make a change for the betterment of the TEAM let him go
Ever since OG was available from the Raptors and arrived here, OG expressed his desire to be a bigger part of the team offensively. You saw some of that in the playoffs especially his great performance in the Sixers series and you can make the argument that if OG doesn't get hurt, we play Boston in the ECF. Fast forward the acquisition of Towns and Bridges along with OG's play while Bridges was stinking up the joint. OG is now the 4th option and playing better defense that Bridges could lead to a little resentment. If OG feels the "NOVA" boys going to do them then why not me?
Og has the biggest contract in knicks history. I think he needs to lead by doing whatever it means to win. Even if that means leading the bench unit
And he’s azz …offensively
@ is he?
OG needs to humble down and not worry about stats... there are 3 proven scorers in front of him.. he should have established that role in Toronto with less Offensive talent and still didn't... so he needs to relax.. u watch his offensive game.. its versatile buut not explosive... his average is around where I see his game at... if he's averaging 25.. i don't think the team is as good.. because you're prioritizing his offense over guys like KAT JB and MB..
OG doesn't create a lot off the dribble. He seems to passive. Towns was out the other night against the sixers. OG should have been more aggressive offensively.
I thought the Knicks said he is running on the treadmill?
“ They calls me Mr. THibbs” ( using the French derivation)
FIRE THIBS !!!
It 1000% Brunson…
OG has played decent on offense and good on defense so I really think it’s Towns who deserves the criticism. He’s a liability on defense which is not new news but he has to buckle down and tighten up his defense. To many stupid fouls
Towns is playing at an MVP level and leads the league in Rebounding. He is the least of our worries. we are 27-15. The issue is zero bench and Thibs coaching style. This team is gonna be judges in the playoffs not in Mid Jan
What did Hart say??
Johnny Bryant won’t make a difference. The Knicks need bench help. They also need a consistent 3 point shooter.
Our bench should've been being developed during the season and in the G league. So come playoffs we would get past the second and have a deep team and match-up problems . Thibs! Is hurting the team 4th qt no legs
Ya all panicking this the best half of season record we had in along time and especially under thugs check that last season after 41 games yes we subpar vs teams over 500 but come playoff I believe we will be better defensively cus offensively we top 2 in the league in rating
No way Knicks are making it to East Finals
What kind of questions are these
This infatuation with thibs is nuts. The guy has won absolutely nothing
I guaranty 💯% Mitchell Robinson will get injured again once he comes back on the Knicks.
Trade Miles McBride? For more bench help? Do these guys know anything about player contracts and value?
Bridges and OG cant average 5 rebounds a game. Mitch is desperately needed.
The coach reach is limit in coaching,just can't go any further in the playoffs he always get out coach on the playoffs
They look tired! No legs in the 4th. Need to rest some guys. Losing games they should have won now they can’t rest players!
Horrible usage. Unreal no bench
Should have called Dwight Howard! There’s veterans they can get just so lazy with the thought!
He was tripped up by the kid in Philadelphia remember the facts
was injured before that
I am trading him asap
ACHIUWA, Kolak and Padigut as well as protected picks for jonas
Did Josh Hart Punch Mikal Bridges in the face at the end of the Philly game? ua-cam.com/video/nu30cIAQDeo/v-deo.html
Knicks need some veterans here last night they shit the bed in the 4th as usual Simms sucks ok nobody wants this kid.
Its a sad state of affairs when there are still weeks of NFL playoffs remaining and wfan are already scraping the NBA/Knicks barrel for talking points. No one cares about the NBA.
All Bullshit 😂😂😂
Thibs is a bad Headcoach. Hes only a great assistant coach. His problem is he runs down his starters to the grond with minutes. By the time they reach playoffs these guys are worn out. Fire Thibs!!!!
So who do you think should coach the teams? And how many rings did they win? When did we lose a series due to being worn out? I recall us losing due to injury. Randall and Mitchell didn’t get injured because they were worn out. Og has been injured his whole career.
@Ceas718 How many Championships has he won being Headcoach? Didn't he have a GREAT young Bulls team and they got their asses kicked in th playoffs because they were worn out. Wasn't he the one who kept a MVP on the floor for no damn reason because they were getting killed and ended up tearing his ACL and from that point on Rose never was the same.
@@bigblue2723 you never answered my question. Instead you answered my question with a question. But to answer your question he’s in the process of trying to win a chip now. You start with continuity and building year by year. He took us from 17 wins to the 4th seed in the playoffs with Randle and a bag of chips. Which is why he was the coach of the year. He than took us to the 2nd seed 50 win team while getting the most out of every player. He is responsible for the growth and development of Randle, Kat, Brunson, Hart, Rj, Quickly, Harkenstein, Divo, McBride, Og , Rose, Butler, Noah etc. we are now the Third seed in the east and 5th in the nba. As far as the previous bulls teams that was his first time coaching and he won coach of the year in his 2nd season with them and loss to the big 3. In fact everyone lost to the big 3. That team also over achieved especially after Rose got injured. A team that included Rose Deng Noah Boozer Bogans Thomas Gibson Brewer Watson Korver and a few no names is not a great roster he just got more out of a bunch of role players with the exception of boozer and rose. He took them from the 8th seed to the 1st seed in 1year. From 33 wins to 62 wins in 2years. Rose injury was due to his high flying play style not due to mins played. Y’all couch coaches need to fall back and let him cook. The players aren’t complaining so why are you?
Big fan of the show! shouts to Begley. I believe the trade will be Precious, Sims, Shamet, & Washington pick for Jonas .
Can't trade Shamet yet. They signed him mid-season.
Precious, Kolak, Dagiuet(however u spell it) and the protected picks for jonas.
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The Knicks should have made three moves from prior seasons: Acquire Donovan Mitchell, trade Mitchell Robinson, and sign Kenny Atkinson. I like Bridges a lot, but I like Mitchell better. Leon should have kept Jalen Duren and traded Robinson to Detroit. Atkinson is a better coach than Thibs and Atkinson does good work with young talent, while Thibs is adverse to rookies. It's too late, and it is what it is.
I dont see how Mitch coming back helps. KAT is balling at the 5. Leading the league in the rebounds. Providing a post presence. Its going to be another T-Wolves Rudy situation.
He would be the back up. Might play 5 minutes a game at the same time tops.
Kat is the defensive liability
We need defense and Sal and low IQ basketball fans want to trade the best pick and roll defender in a pick and roll roll league , the best big in boxing out and the best offensive rebounder in the league , who shoots 70% 8.5 points on only 4.8 shots 8.5 boards 1.8 blocks 1.2 steals in 24 minutes ! At 30 minutes it would be a double double 70% 2 blocks 1.5 steals ! Ridiculous he isn’t being traded
Mitch can guard Embiid a bit and the Greek Freak. With Robinson, Hart, Achuiwa, and Kat, that's a lot of rebounding big bodies to contend with for anybody.
They went to ecf with Rudy and katt