1. It is not sloppy 2. excellent tutorial 3. I don't give a damn how anyone else plays it 4. I trust my ear when learning music . sounds spot on (ingrained in memory since it came out) 5. If I want tutorials on how to play something I come to this channel first. 6. Thank You 7. you the best
Jimmy Page wasn’t a mandolin player and wrote great mandolin tunes. REM did Losing My Religion and they just picked up the mandolin as well, so new players bring a creativity to the instrument. It is a fun instrument to play. I got my mandolins from the Late and Great Mandolin Brothers.
Was staying with Peter Buck as he was producing our Band , Run Westy Run at the time they were just completing Losing my Religion. Our Record is "Run Westy Run Green Cat Island." Recorded at John Keane's studio in Athens 1990. Remember R.E.M filmed a clip of Losing my Religion on Pete's porch. Peter uses a 12 string in said clip. It's on UA-cam somewhere. Love Pete's Mandolin playing .
BTW the best part of the video is he last 35 seconds where you do the alternate intro version! It sounds perfect to me! Thanks for doing this tutorial. Fellow guitarist learning mandolin songs here.
Excellent. Thanks for the eye opener. This is a new realm for me. The 70's music was so much more innovative than today's crap. It is work listening to the earlier stuff. Aarre Peltomaa of Mississauga, Ontario
You're making the intro harder than it needs to be. It's a picking pattern that plays on the open A and E strings with your third finger on the D string 10th fret. That allows you to then play the descending notes on the 9th, 8th, and 7th frets on the G string with your third, second, and first finger while still playing that pattern using the open A and E.
Yes, That may not be right, but that's how I've always played it. It's simple and very effective. Now what are the other chords? 4503 and 0405 then 0320 and 0230?
Thank you, that's THE only way to play the intro (which, btw, you never see Page do live, he makes up a completely different chordal arrangement) where you can let the individual notes ring out together...hats off to the poster of this video, he nails it, but that intro he does, while the correct notes, is too difficult for me (as a guitarist turned beginner mandolin player) to pull off cleanly. Cheers to all from a Zeppelin fan since their first album came out, who saw them live, in '73 AND '75 (in Pittsburgh), who was luckly enough to meet Jimmy at his former residence in Windsor while I was on a business trip to England in 1999. Cheers from the Zepman!
Brilliant guitar players viewpoint of playing this wonderful song.. tuned up and had a go and wife came in and danced along.. her fave Zep song.. immensely enjoyable cheers mate.. all tyhe best to you and family from UK
Cool change of pace James. Nice job explaining the parts to us non mandolin players. I have 2 mandolins but really struggle to play them with those tiny frets.I will give this a go as you motivated me.Thanks. Now you just need a 12 string to add to your collection of 20 or so Guitars to give a few lessons on 12 string orientated songs. Keep up your great work. I look forward to very new video and I have gone through most of your former privatetracker stuff also. Your the best on you tube doing these demo/lessons A BIG Thank You
I watched one of your vids yesterday as I do most days I don’t think I’ve ever committed but it was your new fake les Paul vid and you said “one day someone else will own your guitars” I’ve never thought about that but your right. I have a dozen or so guitars and the thought of someone else owning one never else came into my mind. That’s a tough pill so swallow but ya your right. Hope they take good care and enjoy them as much as I have. I’m going to put a note in each one of them behind back plates about little history on what I did what I paid where they went who they played with just some fun stuff for the new owner. Like I said that’s a tough pull to swallow! Any way enjoy your vids Sense of humor and attitude! Thanks!🎸
Excellent! I’ve always been perplexed by the studio version. I got a Harmony “batwing” electric mandolin like Jonesy’s from Earl’s Court and I’m still god-awful at it. My wife can’t stand me playing mandolin because it’s so loud acoustically...I get the stink-eye when I bring it out!
another fun one along with the Battle of evermore to work on is the similarity from heart Little Queen the Sylvan song dream of the Archer segue tune another fun mando tune.
I bought an Acoustic guitar so I could play John Barleycorn🙈 You caan also play lots more on it of course😂 But now I’ve seen this I’m thinking??. I tend to just do crazy stuff for something I like. I always watch Nancy Wilson and always think. Nah I just couldn’t learn that. Plus I’m not sure my fingers are slim enough to attempt this. But got me pondering?? Good stuff as always my man👍👍
When I first heard this song I thought it’s a big disappointment coming from my favourite band. But a friend played it once on a speaker and I thought how stupid I was to not realise such a masterpiece. After that time I listened to it many times and still listen for a medieval and nature vibe. I will buy a mandolin someday soon and gonna band this song.
I don't care if its a 15th Century Lute, I still have to play Led Zeppelin on it! Jimmy Page experiments with lots of different instruments. Great Instruction James!
I agree 100%! His work with mandolin was incredible. But I believe that this song was Page that created/played the mandolin part, and Jonesy did the acoustic guitar. They switched instruments in Going to California.
I’m pretty sure Jonesy played mandolin on all the other Zeppelin tunes except this one. Some say Jimmy played it on Boogie with Stu, but I think that’s also Jonesy.
@@jamesjames9275 According to Wiki: The song was written by Jimmy Page and Robert Plant at Headley Grange while Page was experimenting on the mandolin owned by John Paul Jones.[5][6] Page explained in 1977 that "'Battle of Evermore' was made up on the spot by Robert [Plant] and myself. I just picked up John Paul Jones's mandolin, never having played a mandolin before, and just wrote up the chords and the whole thing in one sitting."[7] That's amazing...
Great but calling out strings by notes confuses me. What if instructors called out strings by number instead of note? Strings one to four instead of e string to g string.
@@jamesjames9275 I play the Moveable D Chord at the 14th Fret, moving back and forth. D, D sus2, D, D sus4. The only fret changes occur on the E String. Those chords can be used for the entire song. I guess that one could use a Capo, but, I never bothered with it.
@@petersullivan3001 Jimmy has said many times that he played the mandolin part on this song. You can see a video recording from the 77 tour in Seattle where Jimmy plays it. You can see him playing it on the Page/Plant shows in 95. There's even a recent video of him demonstrating how he played it. There is no debate on this.
1. It is not sloppy
2. excellent tutorial
3. I don't give a damn how anyone else plays it
4. I trust my ear when learning music . sounds spot on (ingrained in memory since it came out)
5. If I want tutorials on how to play something I come to this channel first.
6. Thank You
7. you the best
awesome sauce of mandolin music
Rare wholesome YT reply. Cheers sir. ❤
Underrated LZ song. Reminds me of Diablo 2. Good playing/lesson and nice mandolin
Best breakdown of this song that I've seen. I got a week to learn it for a wedding. This video will get me there.
Ha I got a week to learn it too. My friends and I are celebrating zeppelin IV’s 50 anniversary
How'd the gig at the wedding go?????
Jimmy Page wasn’t a mandolin player and wrote great mandolin tunes. REM did Losing My Religion and they just picked up the mandolin as well, so new players bring a creativity to the instrument. It is a fun instrument to play. I got my mandolins from the Late and Great Mandolin Brothers.
Staten Island? Great place! Miss that place with all my heart. ❤️
Was staying with Peter Buck as he was producing our Band , Run Westy Run at the time they were just completing Losing my Religion. Our Record is "Run Westy Run Green Cat Island." Recorded at John Keane's studio in Athens 1990. Remember R.E.M filmed a clip of Losing my Religion on Pete's porch. Peter uses a 12 string in said clip. It's on UA-cam somewhere. Love Pete's Mandolin playing .
thought it was JPJ on the mando???
@@MatMcPhee it was..he’s actually a great mandolin player. As well as keyboards, bass and guitar!
Where Joni Mitchell bought her mandolin too in Song for Sharon.
BTW the best part of the video is he last 35 seconds where you do the alternate intro version! It sounds perfect to me! Thanks for doing this tutorial. Fellow guitarist learning mandolin songs here.
Excellent. Thanks for the eye opener. This is a new realm for me. The 70's music was so much
more innovative than today's crap. It is work listening to the earlier stuff. Aarre Peltomaa of Mississauga, Ontario
You're my favourite teacher on here man! No bs and nice pure personality.Thank you and keep it up!
You pulled it off quite well. One of the better instructional videos that I have seen on how to play this classy tune!
Thank you! I bought a mandolin because of your Going to California video. Love the pace you teach things at. I know what I'm doing today.
great lesson, thanks James! you are one hell of a musician!!
one my favorite zeppelin pieces. and thats saying ALOT!
Thanks, James, I'm no msndo player either, but I taught myself this one song.
Coolest thing ever! I so enjoy just watching you play ….. your rhythm and technique are just amazing….. so freakin cool !!! Thank you
Excellent lesson. Thanks for posting.
You're making the intro harder than it needs to be. It's a picking pattern that plays on the open A and E strings with your third finger on the D string 10th fret. That allows you to then play the descending notes on the 9th, 8th, and 7th frets on the G string with your third, second, and first finger while still playing that pattern using the open A and E.
Yes, That may not be right, but that's how I've always played it. It's simple and very effective. Now what are the other chords? 4503 and 0405 then 0320 and 0230?
Thank you, that's THE only way to play the intro (which, btw, you never see Page do live, he makes up a completely different chordal arrangement) where you can let the individual notes ring out together...hats off to the poster of this video, he nails it, but that intro he does, while the correct notes, is too difficult for me (as a guitarist turned beginner mandolin player) to pull off cleanly.
Cheers to all from a Zeppelin fan since their first album came out, who saw them live, in '73 AND '75 (in Pittsburgh), who was luckly enough to meet Jimmy at his former residence in Windsor while I was on a business trip to England in 1999.
Cheers from the Zepman!
Great video. So many versions and lessons. Find what works. I play with a guitar player who sings lead. TY!
Brilliant guitar players viewpoint of playing this wonderful song.. tuned up and had a go and wife came in and danced along.. her fave Zep song.. immensely enjoyable cheers mate.. all tyhe best to you and family from UK
Mandolin sales have just went up! Great lesson! Thanks!
Love this tune. It's great for sure. Very underated. 👍
Cool change of pace James. Nice job explaining the parts to us non mandolin players. I have 2 mandolins but really struggle to play them with those tiny frets.I will give this a go as you motivated me.Thanks. Now you just need a 12 string to add to your collection of 20 or so Guitars to give a few lessons on 12 string orientated songs. Keep up your great work. I look forward to very new video and I have gone through most of your former privatetracker stuff also. Your the best on you tube doing these demo/lessons A BIG Thank You
Just got a Recording King Dirty 30 mandolin for Christmas. Soon as I get home I'm working on this. Thanks!
Thanks! Such a big help! Sounds great!
This healed my soul
Excellent tutorial my friend, thanks!!!
As always, awesome bruddah ☺️😎😎
Awesome. This helps so much.
Super cool sounding instrument, I got one for '22 Christmas
Excellent tutorial . many thanks James. Jacqueline
i especially love the instrumental version they included on one of the expanded album reissues
wow really?
Fine job! Excellent on the intro and I'm having a tough time playing the intro that way but it sounds accurate I like it
Yes!!! Thank you!
U got it right,bro. Thx for sharing.
Thank you SO much!
I particularly like the outro section of this song.
Thanks. Well done
I watched one of your vids yesterday as I do most days I don’t think I’ve ever committed but it was your new fake les Paul vid and you said “one day someone else will own your guitars” I’ve never thought about that but your right. I have a dozen or so guitars and the thought of someone else owning one never else came into my mind. That’s a tough pill so swallow but ya your right. Hope they take good care and enjoy them as much as I have. I’m going to put a note in each one of them behind back plates about little history on what I did what I paid where they went who they played with just some fun stuff for the new owner. Like I said that’s a tough pull to swallow! Any way enjoy your vids Sense of humor and attitude! Thanks!🎸
Thank you! 🙏🏼
Excellent! I’ve always been perplexed by the studio version. I got a Harmony “batwing” electric mandolin like Jonesy’s from Earl’s Court and I’m still god-awful at it. My wife can’t stand me playing mandolin because it’s so loud acoustically...I get the stink-eye when I bring it out!
I used to use the the same profile pic of Mr. Tufnel and my name is James. Great minds. Thanks for the lesson.
Brilliant mate thanks loads for that, very acurate and great tution, consider me subscribed
another fun one along with the Battle of evermore to work on is the similarity from heart Little Queen the Sylvan song dream of the Archer segue tune another fun mando tune.
Very Cool, Thanks.
Its good to see you play the mandolin like I play guitar.
Ha ha! I think I'd be the same.
great job...the intro is really as you did first..thats what i found too.
I have a Kentucky mandolin too, same one!
I LOVE you James
Best thing to happen to UA-cam! Now all's I needs is to get me hands on a mandolin
THANK YOU!!!!
Cool thanks man
Well done
Watta a tune .....
Wish i had a mandolin just to play this
Got a mandolin as a gift and I’m actually able to do this hahaha thanks bro
RAD AF!!!
I've often thought about learning mandolin just to be able to play some of theses songs & some REM, but I think my fingers might be too big.
Check out nancy wilson's battle of evermore, she does not stretch her fingers across the neck . the picking is more compact.
Did JPJ use his triple neck to play The Battle of Evermore on tour? Awesome bit of kit to check out if anyone’s not familiar with it
He got it halfway through the ‘77 tour. Used it during the acoustic set and on Ten Years Gone.
I bought an Acoustic guitar so I could play John Barleycorn🙈 You caan also play lots more on it of course😂 But now I’ve seen this I’m thinking??. I tend to just do crazy stuff for something I like. I always watch Nancy Wilson and always think. Nah I just couldn’t learn that. Plus I’m not sure my fingers are slim enough to attempt this. But got me pondering?? Good stuff as always my man👍👍
Thanks been looking for a nice lesson on this one. Most are not that great. There is one by Nancy Wilson but too fast.
Great job! What model is that mandolin??
It's a Kentucky, but I don't recall the model.
Great stuff...but what kind of amp is the red white combo please?
That's a hand-built tube amp that my brother made for me. It's actually orange.
When I first heard this song I thought it’s a big disappointment coming from my favourite band. But a friend played it once on a speaker and I thought how stupid I was to not realise such a masterpiece. After that time I listened to it many times and still listen for a medieval and nature vibe. I will buy a mandolin someday soon and gonna band this song.
Nice. I don't even have a mandolin
Cool. I actually have an original song that I wanted to put this in
I could be wrong, but wasn't John Paul Jones Zep's primary mandolin player?
Yes, he was.
Did you delete your original video for this???
I don't care if its a 15th Century Lute, I still have to play Led Zeppelin on it! Jimmy Page experiments with lots of different instruments. Great Instruction James!
Hey james what kind of mandolin do you have?
Kentucky. It was my father's for many years, he was a pretty good picker in his day.
@@jamesjames9275 nice I'm still trying learn myself and also trying to learn about different mandolins and I found your's really cool
John Paul Jones did almost all of the Mandolin playing on those records
Not on this song.
Hehe i fake my way through ukelele and piano the same way ;)
John Paul Jones was such an underrated guy. He was the foundation of Led Zeppelin.
Yeah he was the bass the band was built on
I agree 100%! His work with mandolin was incredible.
But I believe that this song was Page that created/played the mandolin part, and Jonesy did the acoustic guitar.
They switched instruments in Going to California.
Tune that thing man. I’m trying to learn a lesson here lol. You just said you’re out of tune as I typed this.
Nice lesson. I'm also not a mando player. I'm pretty sure he over dubbed the intro. I will give it a try.
John Paul Jones played the mandolin not Jimmy.
Not on this song. Jimmy has talked about this many times, but believe what you wish.
I always thought JPJ played the mandolin on BOE...
I’m pretty sure Jonesy played mandolin on all the other Zeppelin tunes except this one. Some say Jimmy played it on Boogie with Stu, but I think that’s also Jonesy.
@@jamesjames9275 According to Wiki: The song was written by Jimmy Page and Robert Plant at Headley Grange while Page was experimenting on the mandolin owned by John Paul Jones.[5][6] Page explained in 1977 that "'Battle of Evermore' was made up on the spot by Robert [Plant] and myself. I just picked up John Paul Jones's mandolin, never having played a mandolin before, and just wrote up the chords and the whole thing in one sitting."[7] That's amazing...
Not a mandolin player... proceeds to melt face.
Great but calling out strings by notes confuses me. What if instructors called out strings by number instead of note? Strings one to four instead of e string to g string.
It’s only 4 strings. It’s not all that complicated, is it?
Nancy Wilson of Heart does a great video on it as well! ua-cam.com/video/FMyn1ItURys/v-deo.html
John Paul Jones played the part Not Jimmy page… so far as I know.
No, Jimmy played it. He talks about it often.
It just seems easier to play it on a 12-String.
Huh?
@@jamesjames9275 I play the Moveable D Chord at the 14th Fret, moving back and forth.
D, D sus2, D, D sus4.
The only fret changes occur on the E String.
Those chords can be used for the entire song.
I guess that one could use a Capo, but, I never bothered with it.
Will you be doing any giveaways on your channel? I really like that yellow Strat you have!
I give away free guitar lessons several times a week. I kind of feel like that's plenty.
Jones was a much better mandolin player, and sandy's voice is honey
Absolutely. He was a great mando player back in the day, and he's become a fantastic player in the years since.
The real reason the '77 live version is so different than the studio version is by 1977 Page was FULL BLOWN Heroin addict and was so F'uped!!!
Page didn't play this; John Paul Jones did. He was an acoustic guitar player, bass player, keyboards and of course a mandelin player.
@@petersullivan3001 Jimmy has said many times that he played the mandolin part on this song. You can see a video recording from the 77 tour in Seattle where Jimmy plays it. You can see him playing it on the Page/Plant shows in 95. There's even a recent video of him demonstrating how he played it. There is no debate on this.