Top 5 Overrated Disc Golf Discs
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- Today we are counting down the top 5 overrated and over hyped disc golf discs! Of course all these discs are great, but do they really live up to the hype?
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Looks at my stack of 6 Bergs “don’t listen to him babies.”
I mean he said you either love it or have never heard about it. So basically it is a perfect disc but people just don't know it exists.
@@okkouljas5172 That statement made me wonder which category HE was in. He's obviously heard of it. So... he loves it? 🤔
I only have 3 and this video makes me want to buy more.
To be fair… my first reaction to the Berg was “It feels like they recycled a public toilet seat”.
After 1 game with the Berg, it became my go-to putter. Now I’m expanding it’s use into other parts of my game: short tees, approaches, forehand flicks, and OMG TRY IT AS A ROLLER HOLY CRAP ITS LIKE A BIG OFF-ROAD TIRE NOTHING STOPS IT.
Lol. This. Same.
I love the Berg more than my girlfriend, and after she threw it, she’s okay with that now.
My girlfriend understands as well my friend.
@@BergNerd You’re the reason I got a Berg in the first place. Huge fan 🙌🏽
@@KP-dp6tp awesome. glad I could assist.
Legend.
Berg its just terrible disc i don't just understant why peoples buy that its like innova birdie like why need to get it do not buy any bergs
You sir are a brave soul
You guys should collaborate with Swamy and prove them wrong about the Luna!
"It's slow, has no glide, and it's point and shoot!"
Sounds like the perfect upshot disc to me...
Also, the title should change :) "My gripe with popular discs"
I like some of what you said, but it speaks to larger issues.. hype, disc selection, need, etc.
The Berg is the best upshot disc in the game. Inside 200’, it’s perfect.
Agree with this, it literally goes exactly how you throw it, wind resistant, stick where it lands. Didn’t like it at first but my friend did, he throws it 99% of the times inside 150ft, even long puts. And when i saw how great he was with it i started to do it too and now it’s my main approach disc, unless i need a flex line or very overstable, then it’s the pig. I also put with it inside 30ft.
Cap its the zone
Nah bro, that's for my zones 😂
@@bengreen4583 i had an Esp Zone for a while and i never liked it lol, that’s one disc i really don’t understand the hype about, guess it’s more about personal preference
@@1isone same! I got last years Earheart Zone thinking it would be a game changer. Feels weird on the forehand and not as torque resistant (as I expected) on the backhand
"Myself thinks this disc is overrated."
The Berg has a good use.....you can approach with it and it won't run that far past the basket. You can also spin putt with it for the same reasons. The Berg has a very good tactical aspects to it.
“You either love it, or have never heard of it” I think dude needs to understand what overrated means
Also, how can it be overrated if people haven't heard of it
Same use as a pro pig, less hype?
@@mikegasparac5062 Even less glidey. At low speeds its a stable brick. Throw it hard and it’s a slightly stable brick.
@@mikegasparac5062 I bag both. Similar, but the Berg is a bit more stable and less glidey. Seems to be a more accurate forehand upshot disc for me
The Pros bag the Destroyer, but it's not the driver for most of us.
Finally someone speaking the truth. 90% of the people watching this video does not have the power to throw it properly.
I'm 15 and I throw it pretty well, I can get it to go dead straight with a little bit of turnover then it hooks up with a skip at the end
@@bengreen4583 that’s awesome, you must have pretty quick arm speed and good timing!
@@timothymhoeksema I guess so 😁
@@tobi12211 but peoples like thinking "destroyer is good disc i throw fairway only 200feet thats better i throw it 230 in super anhyzer 😆
i love discmania but how much did they pay you to not include the cloudbreaker? or the TILT?!?!
Amen. But the Destroyer makes the list?
LOL for real…
This dude rags on Innova in most of his videos. But all Discmania are “underrated” according to him. Has he not seen how they sell out instantly and just as fast are selling on eBay for $150+?
@@lilcha85 haha and then shows a $40 disc in the video as if that's expensive
Agreed
"The Berg is a great disc but I dont understand the hype" What????
I love the Berg! But it does have hype behind it, no doubt. Deserved in my mind, though!
Exactly. I could buy it being overrated if there were functional alternatives to serve the same purpose, but it's genuinely a unique disc that AFAIK doesn't have any other mold claiming to do its job the same or better. I believe the Innova Animal is thought to be in the same vein as a Berg, but I haven't thrown it or talked to anybody who has to confirm.
I don't agree with the Berg. I don't see a crazy amount of hype, and they're easy to find. They're also inexpensive to buy. Great disc, and I bag one, but I don't think people are losing their minds over them. I'd replace it on this list for the Cloudbreaker.
Might be a regional thing then, cuz it's the exact opposite for me. In Portland OR at least the Berg is HUGE
@@jillydaqueen2282 Middle Tennessee here and I heard multiple crazy Berg people in my first two months of playing. The hype is huge here too. I'm surprised it was so low on the list tbh
@@MatthewCaldwell Yup!!! CHATTANOOGA, TN here. Berg hype is huge here!! Its kind of simmered down this summer and the late bloomers are discovering it ( including myself).
I'm debating on a K3 or a K1 Glo. A good friend loves it and I've had a chance to see/feel a reason to own 2.
I own over 50... I am moderately obsessed.
The envy hurt the most for me. I started putting with it about 2 months ago. Nothing has felt better to putting with. As soon as James threw one in I knew it was gonna be hard to find them.
There’s one you’re missing: the Innova Pig
As a person who does not throw that far, I usually don't always have a putt for a birdie on the par 3 holes. That's when the berg comes out. I probably throw a berg every fourth throw (not counting putting, or maybe even including haha). 90% of the throws are a sidearm shot. And there's nothing to compare it to when it comes to that. I have a zone if I feel like it's to far for the berg. Otherwise I would say it's the most important disc in my bag if I had to choose one. But that's just what I like :)
I would also say that the berg is a unique disc. Yes, there's alot of zones out there or destroyers with other brands. But there's noting like a berg. One of a kind
Innova birdie is the closest.
I'm an MVP thrower and I agree with your Envy take. Before the throw in, it was definitely an underrated disc. Now, it's impossible to find any in stock anywhere. It's a fantastic disc though
If I can make a Berg reach, I'm throwing a Berg.
Tell me you hate the resale market without telling me you hate the resale market… but props, this man knows how to work the UA-cam algorithm.
Lune = tricked up Roach/Challenger...not over-rated, but could be overpriced. Destroyer = reference for all distance drivers...not over-rated but not for beginners.
Agreed the destroyer has gained its name for a reason
Destroyer's a speed 13 for God's sake! So not for beginners. I nearly made the same mistake as a rookie. 'So what's the fastest driver? Oh yeah I'll buy an , that'll improve my distance and therefore, my game.' Luckily, the company I ordered it from had employees that knew me and advised a slower speed disc, knowing I was a newbie. So, hello Essence, which I still bag.
@@TheTranquilEye speed 12
Yeah destroyer is probably one of the best distance drivers.
I've never thrown a Luna, but I don't think I could ever stop throwing the Judge from Dynamic Discs. Feels great, beats in very nicely and pretty quickly to go dead straight... and you can buy a lot of them for way cheaper than the Luna
Judges are amazing throwers and the emac judges are an amazing compliment if you want an understable option for throwing putter
Special Blend Lunas are like $19. I know it’s not as cheap as a base Judge, but that should hardly be a deterrent from trying it (or calling it overrated)
I want to dislike for tarnishing the name of the Destroyer like this, but you're brave enough to make the video so I'll just go about my day. ;)
destroyer is hyped because ricky bags like 10 of them lol
There's nothing I love more than an old beat up star destroyer
I hate destroyers lol. It’s probably because I don’t have the arm speed/control for it. Butttttt I do have a friend that hasn’t been playing a year and can absolutely crush with em.
It’s a distance driver so people just hate it because they suck, wraiths are too flippy for people with good arm speed
@@wakimura303 GG Halo Wraiths are super stable.
hard to describe an innova staple disc, that people use to describe discs from other brands, as overrated. They are just the foundation of flight paths as we know it.
"Yeah, its kinda like a firebird, just more flat top"
Yeah.. the Firebird and Destroyer have been copied over and over and over and over for a reason.. they work.. and they still sell.
What is the Felon.
lol that’s exactly the disc i was describing
… you’re literally describing a flattop firebird, which is a thing.
Great, now that I’ve seen the Berg I’m gonna be obsessed with it, cuz I can no longer be in the “never heard of it” camp
I feel like this isn't exactly a list of overrated discs, but more of discs you think are not for beginners.
THIS
Well, there's a lot of overlap there. You would think that discs that are touted as "The best" of their type would be accessible to all skill levels. So in a sense, when a disc is not beginner friendly, it is more prone to being overrated. IMO, at least
@@reidausband9392 that’s relative. “You would think”..who is *you* in this. If i’m seeing something as the best, it’s something that when thrown correctly, performs the best…if you want a list for beginners, no disc over a 7 speed would honestly be ranked, anywhere.
@@marcusdresback I did say at the beginning of the video that it is 100% subjective :)
@@reidausband9392 fair enough.
I agree with you about the Berg. I’ve bagged it on a few different occasions and really tried to make myself like it… but I just didn’t. However, I disagree about the Destroyer. Just because a disc isn’t beginner friendly doesn’t make it overrated 😂
I would have to agree with the firebird being overrated. Coming from a firebird thrower I would have to say this is a disc more towards your powerful forehand players. Not backhand I don’t nearly have enough power to throw this 350+ but as a 400ft power forehand thrower you couldn’t ask for a better forehand disc
You have to have a big arm to throw a firebird. It's definitely made for pro level players, but appeals to everyone
Overrated... Couldn't ask for a better disc? 🤦
Firebirds themselves aren't overrated, but the sexton firebirds might be a tad.
Before watching the video, I thought of five right away and you listed four of them. I had Tilt and not Berg.
Most players want to be like the pros, get drivers designed for professional players, struggle with them, then jump on a putter since they can throw them.
Subscribed because I did indeed get offended. Firebird hurt, but I do agree with what you said. The Envy is where you cut deep. The putter I learned to throw putters on and to this day will throw it over any midrange I own. Good video, jimmys thoroughly rustled
You should have said so, we would have rustled your jimmy’s months ago!
So instead of destroyer I should go down a spleen and stability and throw a wraith?
Be your own man, Marshin72. Throw something new. Throw a putter on a 1200 ft par 5. Use an ESP Nuke as your approach disc. The world is your oyster.
I do love the Berg for holding a line on backhand turnover and forehand anhyzer throws. And it settles pretty nicely when it hits the ground. The K1 plastic feels nice.
Just so the record shows... I was an envy fan before the shot. Literally bought a new one 30 minutes before he threw it and I’m glad I did! 😂😂😂
Same i picked up the envy when James first moved to MVP.
@@paulfickinger4740 Wise Choice 👍🏻😂
Of those, the only one I have is a Berg, and I dig it. Good content. Keep it coming.
Id put rocs on there, far less comfy in hand than a buzzz and very runny. I bag a buzzz but find myself reaching for a meteor most mid shots :)
Totally agree. I'm always afraid to say it, but rocs feel terrible in my hand. My emac truths do the same thing without the uncomfortable bead and I can buy a truth off the shelf and know how it will fly.
I would agree with you like five years ago but it feels like the hype train for the roc and really mid discs in general is waning especially with the huge rise in driving putters.
@@TheScottishKayaker yeah hype is dieing or innova has flooded their own line up with mids, seems like they drop 3 or 4 new mid molds every year.
It's preference. I prefer the feel of the roc over a buzz. They feel the same though.
*do the same
The Berg's perfect.
As soon as I saw this title, the first disc that popped into my mind was the Innova Destroyer lol. Yes, it is a great disc, but the hype is ridiculous.
How dare you say that my Kastaplast Berg is overrated. It's "MY PRECIOUSSSSSSS". You are right about all the others but NOT the Berg; No sir. Love your content guys!!!!
I bag 2 lunas, 3 destroyers, a berg and a firebird...😅
Dang we just about roasted your whole bag xD
You are so overrated!!!!
@@Bfordandafter oh no!
this man knows algorithms right here
;)
Counterpoint: Everyone should have an Envy, and no matter how hyped it is, it can never be overrated.
The best part about “overrating” things is that they can still be overrated and be great
well put
I love the way you talked about The Destroyer that was exactly me when you're ago I Googled for the most easiest driver to use and boom it's a destroyer I took it out through it for the first time and all I could do is get it to hook left 250 ft I got it stuck up on a roof and right then I knew I was not ready for no 12-speed I packed it down to 7 to a 9-speed and the berg it helped me learn the forehand I was all backhand it's the straightest and slowest disc for beginners so it's really good for a beginner I would suggest that disc to start off with then learn the speed up higher
I think this list fits the description of "over-hyped" rather than "overrated". You said almost every disc is good or great. But there are some crazy fans of these specific molds, and I have three Bergs.
Yep... overhyped makes more sense....
Happy to see another disc golfer reppin the Gospel 💪
Remember guys, he's saying that these discs are overrated. That does NOT mean that they are "bad" discs. He's simply saying that the hype around them is too high for what the discs can actually do. Its like walking around and constantly telling people that a movie is SO good, that when they see it it'll blow their minds. You bring the hype up so high that when they actually go to watch it, its just impossible for it to live up to expectations. No matter how good the movie is.
This guy gets it
Being an MVP guy I would have replaced the envy for the zone on this list, but it’s hard to argue with the logic.
As someone who bags both I 100%agree with you there.
No way neither are overrated it’s the envy and atom have changed my game and I finally have putters I feel good about driving and throwing in general
Idk buzz is way more popular and the zone is better. Or at least more useful
@@FearTheWeird300 The zone doesn't match up with the envy. It's a tad bit more overstable. Try comparing the zone to an Entropy.
I agree with the star destroyed to an extent. I have a Gstar destroyer which flys sooo good and I can get it to flip on hyzer and even turn slightly, but when I bought my socki bot star destroyer, it flys so damn over stable, I can't even use it. I just don't have the arm speed for it and it pains me because it's soo freaking beautiful 😭 good review man
My only destroyer I have played with is a Star Sockibot. I have a decent arm (350-400 max) and I can't get that thing to S at all. No matter how much ani I put on it, it starts hyzering out immediately. Feel like I need to give a different Destroyer a shot, but don't understand the hype with the one I got.
First off love the shirt! With that said you hurt my feelings with the destroyer lol. I do understand exactly what you mean with beginners throwing it but still it hurt hahahahahaha.
When I started, I was given a bunch of broken-in discs as a gift from a friend. Some of them are very flippy and understable. They were so much easier to throw from left to right. Now, I'm developing more power. I'm gravitating toward stable discs. I ended up buying new versions of the discs I already have. I'm taking them through the process of breaking in to find a sweet spot. You're right, disc preference is completely subjective. It's a never-ending process. I got a nice chuckle from this video. I know why you made it! Disc golfers are extremely superstitious creatures! These are my discs right now. 1. Champion Leopard. 2. Leopard3 3. Star Roadrunner 4. Buzz 5. Star Sidewinder 6. Frag by Doomsday Discs (crazy cool disc) 7. AvengerSS
I think the Tilt needs to be on the list, even tho it’s a lot of fun to throw. It’s ok I’ll take my beating and show myself out. lol. But fully agree with the list. Specially for beginners and most intermediate players.
I feel like the Tilt was pretty much made to be overrated. It’s practically a meme disc, but it has a legitimate purpose in everyone’s bag.
@@Ali_2401 oh I fully agree it has a spot, and is fun throw, but for what I’ve seen them selling for you’d think they guarantee an Ace with every throw. lol
Love the shirt! And the content.. I'll subscribe!
every mf had at least one 4x Star Destroyer in their bag at some point lmao
My buddy still bags his first Dx destroyer from his starter pack, its soo beat in and flippy now. It seems like it works great for max distance in a variety of conditions for him.
are we speaking luna in terms of throwing, or putting? because putting, i’ve tried everything since i’ve started, every brand, every blend..i can’t find a better putting putter.
A p2😉😂
@@colton28383c absolutely love p2’s as well! not very accessible nowadays tho sadly.
@@marcusdresback lunas are just as hard IMO!
@@colton28383c Luckily for me, I stay by a relatively large Disc Golf spot, Hazy Shade in Dayton Ohio, who do a pretty good job of keeping that discraft premium plastic on hand, for the most part.
Love the video. I never heard of the berg untill my buddy introduced me to it. Aaaaannnnnddd it went straight into the cart. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 But like you said. There is NO in-between for that disc.
I got a ton of envy’s bought a few months ago. Very inconsistent totally willing to get rid of them. This is an awesome video
I would give the Glow model a try. Very beefy and stable, tough to turn over and it just goes!
The DD3 (esp cloud breaker) is over rated.
Firebird is amazing! Yes, stupidly overstable, but its the only disc in my bag that i can mash on an anhyzer, it turns over a wee bit then just comes back and fades out for that perfect flex line.
Also, if i only have a gap in the skies, and the fairway goes to my right, i can mash in on an anhyzer as well over the trees, and it will take me to the fairway again! NO disc in my bag can do that
Thank you for this lol. Should’ve put the buzzz on there.
Jokes on you I don't carry a Bag😂😂
The Luna changed my whole putting game, it took me a long time to find the right one. I don't really pay attention to the lists and stuff, I just go off feel. When I first picked up a Luna at the local shop I knew it was the one. I was using a Fierce before, it was almost there, but the Luna really made it some together, I've been sinking puts I never would have dreamed about hitting. I have 5 of them now.
I have 10 and I love how putting with them they float so long. I too was in search for my perfect putter and same as you the Luna was it. Everything you said 100%
The berg is a pretty good putting putter for beginners, it’s very easy to know where it will go and feels good in the hand, but there are just as good and better putters for even cheaper. The deputy was my first putter I really felt confident with and it’s amazing for throwing hyzer flips in the woods, and in prime plastic it only costs $10
A good honest video. I had to sub
When in doubt, go Berg. Love that disc
Used screen shot of this comment in latest vid. Berg on!
This is so spot on. With the Berg, I find that people love to dye them. But the Firebird is definitely over hyped, as a thrower and as a collectible. I have three of them, two are Sextons. I bag one but I use it so little that it’s still practically 9/10. Destroyers are certainly not for most beginners. An Eagle is a better choice. It has the same turn and fade, and will probably go further.
bruh eagles do not go further than destroyers. If you can't handle a destroyer, use a leopard3 or understable distance driver
@@bobfreddy4473 Yes. In theory. But I’m referring to the average beginner. They would get more benefit and probably more distance with something slower. If we are just talking over-stability, and hook finishes the Eagle will do that. For distance, yeah, a beginner should stick with a leopard.
@@bobfreddy4473 I don’t like destroyers. I prefer the wraith. And distance isn’t that important to me for the courses that I play on. Everything is 400’ or less, all par 3. Throwing mid ranges and putters.
Love my Eagle! Can’t throw a Destroyer for the life of me.
@@axeslinger44 I have a few, and while I can get them out to 330-340’, I don’t like the feel a whole lot.
I bag three of these discs and don't see them leaving the bag anytime soon. 😂
I would have totally agreed with you with the Innova destroyer. With my level of play I dialed it back to 160 DX plastic and now it's my favorite driver. I throw it on Heiser because I can turn it over so easy and I get that nice S curve and get some distance.
totally agree, also the fact that the destroyer has to be the most inconsistent disc of all time when it comes to stability
Basically they are overrated for newer players, but live up to the hype for advanced+ players. Change the name on your video to Top 5 Overrated Discs for Beginners, and you've hit the nail on the head.
Destroyer was my first distance driver, used for a couple years or so, bought 2 times, and almost never threw it well. It always turned over on its side, and I've since had other distance drivers I throw much better, like Firestorm and Majesty.
Agree on berg, I thought it was perfect before I learned distance control. I’d rather have a throwing putter with more glide so I can stretch to a longer distance instead of grabbing a mid
I have to agree with you about envy being overrated! i temporarily switched out the pilot to see how envy works and I like it but after a while, I might switch back to pilot as it fits me a bit better. First time watching this kind of video! awesome work recently just subscribed after this vid :D
I've only been playing a short time and don't have that much experience with a lot of molds but I found the destroyer to be one of the most beginner friendly molds of any driver. I only have dx plastic but it is my furthest flying disc pretty much from day 1. I currently have 15 discs.
After 15 years disc golfing I’ve finally graduated into throwing Fire birds & destroyers. Finally able to throw them how I want.
I think this list was pretty good I also bag bergs but I think u comment about it was pretty spot on either u know what a berg is or u probably haven’t even heard of it but I just love how berg stays dead on and sits down better then my jaybreaker challengers did
Any 13+ speed disc. 12 speed is as fast as anyone will ever need.
Nuke ?
if you can’t pump a disc, just say that.
@@marcusdresback okay hardass. I’m pretty sure the 5x world champ doesn’t carry anything higher than a 12 speed
@@vincentvaneck3225 do you really need it tho? A Force or Zeus will basically do the same thing.
@@ChayseGrizzell do u really need any disc? It’s preference and if u can use the disc well then use it
BERG IS AMAZING!!!! Not even close to being overrated. The disc is for shots like that, approach and getting it close to the basket lol
I'd like to point out your shirt, nice bro! Live it out! 👍
Don’t like the smooth feel of the Luna for throwing. Love it for putting. Numbers are whack.
If I could buy enough ts Lunas to last for my life, I'd be so happy. It is my favorite throwing putter. I don't care for the rubber blends for throwing much though.
@@dank6129 which year TS luna you looking for?
@@chrisblair3081 these 2021 ones feel ridiculous. Sadly don't have the money to drop on more. First 4 throws with my purchase were, 150ft throw in, parked 235ft soft hyzer shot, parked 215 slight anny, 133ft throw in. The things are sick and feel better than any disc in my bag.
I say the number one would be the cloud breaker or dd3 .
Booo this comment
But Lunas go in every time? I bag three as well. I think the mystic that they have makes me more confident when putting with them. We all know that when you putt confidently, you putt better. I threw P model US until I was able to buy 5 Lunas at retail. Now, I don’t think I can go back:
I’m a total beginner and tried the firebird for the first time while I was doing field work earlier, hated the way it flew for me and my slow arm speed. Just immediately dumped to the left, ended up 246. I don’t see me being able to use that for a long long time. I think I’ll stick to (understable) 8 speeds and below for awhile.
Ive bagged the luna… totally agree. Its a good disc but no putter is alpha omega… no disc is really. I also bag a berg and firebird. Firebird is overrated but it works for me. Berg is a staple in my bag, it helps me in windy approaches and smooth flexlines in the woods!
I’ve never liked lunas as throwing putters but i have never putted with a better feeling putter than luna
I loved mine and somehow it disappeared must have fell out of my bag, but I putt with a roach now cause lunas are too hard to get
This, i like. Subscribed. I love my glow berg, especially pitching out from my crappy drive. It has saved me from many more painful strokes, lmao!
No Trilogy discs.
I traded some Innova KC Pro Aviar's for Luna's and am kind of regretting it because I either don't throw them correctly or they just aren't a good fit for me. I keep trying to figure them out but keep failing to master them. It sucks because I have a buddy who throws it and is great with it.
I bought a used Star Destroyer when I got into the game and can throw it decent along with the rest of my other distant drivers and sadly none of them are in my daily bag. My main drivers are the Anax and Scorch and then Raptors and Heat. I dont have the technique and touch for high speed drivers yet. One day I hope to be able to throw distance drivers but not today.
Great video!!!
[Overrated in a specific context] is more appropriate. Some great points though. It took years for me to figure out that over stable max weight discs are not choice for someone with my core body strength. I wish I had seen a pro pushing 168g Valks and Terns for amateurs years ago.
I played a tournament last week and someone on my card was using a kastaplast berg. I had no idea what it was.
As an intermediate player, I’ve bagged a destroy since day 1 and I’ve no issue with it as the years gone by. I never gave up on the destroyer because it was basically my only driver that I had when I started playing disc golf. Now, I can grow other distance drivers further than the destroyer but I use the destroyer mainly for drives when I want to finish left or right. It’s a great disc! Just gotta put in time to get aquatinted with it.
The berg is the greatest approach disc ever made. If you dont like it/think its overrated its merely bc you dont know how to throw it
I thought of the Firebird instantly when I saw the video title.
Never thrown a firebird but my fireball seems to do well
I feel personally attacked xD. I approach with a Luna and Putt with a Berg xD
By learning your discs?
I’m starting to think you guys are secretly discmania sponsored. No way none of those signature series are not on this list.
SOOO true lol we could have put the entire company in this video xD
If you look at the comments below you can see why the Berg makes the list... people are so defensive of it! Great list. I bag three destroyers and agree with the list placement. The Tilt and Zone both could make the list as well.
Hey Swanky Team, thank you for this video. I do not own any of this discs :D Lucky me :D But I am also a not overarted player...actually i'm not even ratetd...well...lucky me again :D
I don't have the arm to make my champion Firebird fly properly (doesn't have enough glide for my needs). But, my alternative is the Discraft ESP Predator which flies for me how I envisioned the Firebird to fly.
Last year, I experimented with the Plasma Envy as a thrower, and I love it! Lucky for me when I found an Eclipse 2.0 glow Envy! I had these before the hype.
I have been putting with same luna over 1,5 years and it hasn't bended
The berg has a very specific space in my bag, if it’s a down hill or ob long upshot from and I specify 110’ to 60’ it gives you the confidence to run the throw but it will not go long it just sits insane I don’t understand it I’ve tried to replace it but the k3 on the types of courses I play in arizona with hard ground it grips up or goes in half the time, I love it can’t seem to find a reason to take it out of my bag cuz when I need it it’s there, would not recommend switch to it as a circle one putter though it has many issues in the 30’ category
I own a star firebird which flips to flat on a Hyzer and flies really far and straight i love it backhand more than forehand
When I first saw this video tag, I immediately said Destroyer. Good video as usual
Btw, when did you guys shoot this? I might of just missed you as I played there twice this past weekend
@@godzilla2721 filmed last week! Friday, I think!
@@reidausband9392 I just missed you guys then. Keep doing your thing and having fun