I think its just to show how controlling Alan Bradley (and his daughter as well) is and a sign for what happens later when he gets much worse. I mean they played it out slowly but there have been warning signs previously as well but now its becoming more obvious
What was funny is how all Rita’s friends thought she would love it 😂 Sign of the times, people thought that for a woman, being married aas the be all and end all.
Oh wow. Just heard Deidre say to Susan that 'I told you so' wasn't Ken's style. That wasn't just Ken's style, it was his entire personality. Getting one over on someone he felt superior to, which was more or less everyone, was why that guy got up in the morning. Ken Barlow - the only man in Weatherfield with a degree, the only teacher and the only social worker. He should have been the baron of Weatherfield, never mind a local councillor or even mayor.
Bill Roache's acting ability is bland or yelling ~ that's about it. No wonder he's the longest actor in history for one role - I don't think he could do anything else but Ken. Imagine him doing Hamlet 😂
@@philstrachanI'd love to see him doing Hamlet, or King Lear 😂😂 I bet he'd give a performance of such authority, Sir Ian McKellen would never appear on the stage again
Imagine if Jack had heard Mavis talking about weddings. “I don’t do well at weddings myself-mind, I ‘ad a traumatic experience at one. Our Vera said ‘Yes’. “
When Susan Baldwin says she may as well be married to Bluebeard, I was wishing she had been. Then he could have shut her in the cellar and given our ears a rest from her complaining and grating voice. On a brighter note, by late 1987 at least the Susan-Mike marriage was on its last legs.
Susan was dreadful, childish and unbearable. God knows what Mike was thinking when he married her. She was never happy, complaining about being regarded as the 'little woman' or a 'brood mare'. I got the impression that all the poor guy wanted was to be a father to a child, not half a dozen. She might not have been brought up by Ken, but she was definitely his daughter, self-righteous, never uncomplaining and far less impressive in reality than she was in her own head. Deidrie, as annoying as she was, didn't deserve to be lumbered with Ken, nor Mike with Susan.
I think susan was extremely patient with mike's male shauvanistic way. He can make his own tea..after all, . he does have hands ....and a brain . Being married to mike baldwin would turn any good woman sour.
And ....he only married ...her to make babies! My god!!!!. Yep, susan was well shot of that one! She couldve ended up in that kitchen forever!!! Well done susan..
When Alec was thanking Jack, Gloria and Margo for ‘holding the fort’ whilst he was in Torremolinos, and Jack suggested he just slip something extra in their pay packets, I’m surprised Alec didn’t go “ Like a P45, you mean, Jack?”
So basically Ken’s telling Susan “ You made your bed, so lie in it.” I could understand if he was a Catholic, like Ivy, and thought marriage had to be for life whatever- but he isn’t!
@@alexanderjones9572 He was just making sure the downfall of the Baldwins marriage was their doing and not his. Even though he always hoped it would fail.
@@alexanderjones9572 he's basically saying 'you made the decision against my express wishes, put me through hell with it, I told you not to do it, so you can grow up and reap what you sewed'. He is feeling some righteous indignation!
Just like Gail when she wanted a house, both times... Sally just gets worse with it to thru the years to come, nothing is ever good enough... She's like that one girl in charlie in the chocolate factory, "I want MORE"
I think Sally represents a model of rough working class upbringing by a violent drunkard father & a submissive brow beaten mother & a stack of oaffish brothers Brought up in this environment she would have learned early on how to protect herself & how to obtain what she needed to survive & advance herself. I knew someone like Sally from a similar family home background. She was very forward & sort of pushy & wanted to escape from her family & carve out a better future for herself. I admired her ambition to advance herself & how she learned early on, to use those persons & how to project herself In an energetic, willing & charming way, she swore shed never have the life her mother had & her poverty had made her keen & observant to any chance or opportunity. Others who didnt know her or her background called her pushy & a user & using her feminine attributes to get ahead. She said poverty & lack of anything worthwile in her life had made her keen & hungry to succeed. I thought she was a clever girl & even with a lack of decent education she cultivated her own learning by listening & copying others, buying books on self improvement & ideas on getting ahead. I was very fond of her, a tiny slip of a girl like Sally, she let me into her background & asked for my help & guidance when she grew to trust me, which was new to her as she'd never trusted anyone. She was so eager to learn, willing to work hard, had bundles of energy & was open to absorb any experiences or education to persue her life! Her humour was one of her best qualities which we cultivated & it was a pleasure to coach her & help her all i could because she was so grateful someone cared enough to help & guide her. She was just 17yrs then & by the time she was 22yrs she was assistant marketing manager. At 25yrs she was head of Marketing & Publicity! She improved in leaps & bounds & so keen like a sponge to absorb everything. Later when she became confident we smoothed down her rough edges & polished her personality And she became one of the best friends i had. Shes now married ( very well) had a family, started her own PR company, travelled around the world & achieved much Shes still a cheeky imp though😆 but tempered & its earned her great admiration. She always said it was her Hunger to build a better life which sharpened her determination to get ahead & she could twist others round her little finger & hustle like the best of them. But it was her charm, cheek, hoodwinking & cajoling with such Convincing abilities that kept her hunger keen & sharp. There arent many ive come across over the years since then, that were like my friend, most are lazy & think the world owes them They lack the hunger & sharp keeness, as the majority are spoiled brats & havent had the initiative to set about advancing & improving their life by hard work & willingness to learn. Weve brought up a generation of slobs & malcontents these days who want want want without any effort or hunger to lift themselves up the ladder of success. We need more "Sallys" today They are a dying breed. Regards 🇬🇧👧
2:48:41 Has Alec not rumbled what Bet is doing yet? Once married, is it not classed as a joint tenancy? Therefore Bet would not owe Alec the money she borrowed off of him. As far as I'm aware.
So all the marriages that never produced a kid Emily and Ernest Audrey and Alf Mavis and Derek Ken and Deirdre Ivy and Don None of them are ‘proper’ marriages, right Mike?
All those on the list with the exception of Deidre and Ken married later in life though. K and D were supposed to be 'trying for a baby' for a while weren't they, but I think the writers changed direction with them.
I think they've been pushing the assertive, pushy, bossy Emily angle a bit too much. It was cute when she stood up for Curly but she's just starting to look like a bit too militant.
Literaly want to say never mind Mike sacking Susan, i wish producers had, she cant act for tuppence and her voice is so irratable, they had a few susans but this one was the worst of the bad bunch.
Well, perhaps it's more helpful to focus on what's being expressed rather than how it's being communicated. The unsuitability of Mike and Susan's marriage is signalled disaster from the day it happened. I can't believe they'd involve Mike in such a weak, ridiculous storyline. A girl of 21 married a man over 25 years older than him. It's absurd. I don't think the acting ability of the woman playing Susan is an issue here, it's the bad planning and writing,
Ready made hot pot? Frozen no less? Instant gravy? Why have a "cook" at all? Bet was may not have cared for Margo but she was right from a business perspective.
Susan was young and in love,... or so she thought. She was Manipulated by an old , selfish sexist who only married her for her reproductive body. she was purely a baby making machine for him. sexist assholes like that dont deserve wives at all. Yeah susan! Go susan!! Whoop whoop!!!😃
Nasty Alan reared his ugly head over the past couple of months...This storyline is going to build. I remember these episodes shown early morning on ITV3. They started the run from 1986 Glad Bet's back...Hilda is a spiteful old bag at times...Bet's done a lot for her in the past, but she always sticks her nose in and stirs the pot, yet when it comes to her own business, she's quick to tell people to mind their own business...Glad she's going soon. There wasn't a lot more they could do with her character by this point. She's a bad stereotype of decades past I wish that Sally, Kevin, Gail, Ivy and Ken had gone with her...
God those old dudes back then really thought school was the be all and end all didn't they? It was a waste of time when I went in the 90s and you should have a look at what passes as school now my daughter goes. I thought it was bad when I went but the magic they're trying to indoctrinate into their brains now 🤦🏻♂️
I was in exactly her shoes at this point (Aug 87) I was facing going back to school to do my A-Levels, it was the last thing I wanted to do and very nearly did a runner
Susan Baldwin or this particular actress was very wooden in this part. Her face barely changes no matter whether supposed to be distressed, happy, sad, depressed, euphoric, angry, she just stays the same, occasionally an eye brow raises, but otherwise monotone voice and fixed face.
Who in their right mind would arrange a surprise wedding? Don't know what the scriptwriters were thinking with this one.
I think its just to show how controlling Alan Bradley (and his daughter as well) is and a sign for what happens later when he gets much worse. I mean they played it out slowly but there have been warning signs previously as well but now its becoming more obvious
I cringed at this bit, I knew she would hate it
Someone who's after yer money n in heritance from her late husband
What was funny is how all Rita’s friends thought she would love it 😂 Sign of the times, people thought that for a woman, being married aas the be all and end all.
Red wine lunch on a Friday afternoon, it's like "yep, that'll kill a few minutes". 🙄🍻
Jack: "Vera can whisper louder than others can shout...."
Alec’s one liners are giving me stitches
Susan is about 22, looks like a 55 year old and acts like a 12 year old
lol right?
And talking of ages, Wendy Jane Walker first played the character of Susan when she was a 6 year old in 1970.
Mavis ( about Alec) “I mean-he’s hardly all macho, is he?”
Phyllis “ Not like your Derek, y’ mean?”
🤣🤣🤣
Brilliant acting from Roy Barracloug..."Alec" looking so pained and out of place in the hot sun!!!!😂🎉
Just can't beat this on a Saturday night because there's nothing on T.V just bloody game shows!!! So thanks for uploading great content 👍👍
I watch every night
Day and night, if anyone is keeping up with the Joneses! I'm through 9 years in 4 months time.
Sunday morning is better 2022 😂
@@francesgillotti1378 very true 😊😉
I've not watched Saturday tv(or any night TV to be fair) for about 20 odd years...good to know it hasn't changed 😂
Rita “Now Mavis, we don’t want any violence. You know it’s jail for you if you start throwing glasses in a pub again.” 😂😂
😂
Mavis is from another planet. ❤
Say what you will about Alec-he had some good one liners!
Alan Bradley and his odious daughter Jenny, walking around Rita’s house like they own the place. Awful pair of grabbers.
Oh wow. Just heard Deidre say to Susan that 'I told you so' wasn't Ken's style. That wasn't just Ken's style, it was his entire personality. Getting one over on someone he felt superior to, which was more or less everyone, was why that guy got up in the morning. Ken Barlow - the only man in Weatherfield with a degree, the only teacher and the only social worker. He should have been the baron of Weatherfield, never mind a local councillor or even mayor.
Bill Roache's acting ability is bland or yelling ~ that's about it. No wonder he's the longest actor in history for one role - I don't think he could do anything else but Ken. Imagine him doing Hamlet 😂
@@philstrachanI'd love to see him doing Hamlet, or King Lear 😂😂 I bet he'd give a performance of such authority, Sir Ian McKellen would never appear on the stage again
@@shylinh5939 🤪🍻
@@philstrachanwhen he was on foot path with Deidre trying to be seductive turned my stomach 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤢
@@cise748 🤪
I love Alec, Phylis and Hilda. So funny. And it’s so funny the way Jack talks about Vera.
Rita turning him down was the moment Alan decided to rip her off.
The Costa Del Sol is summed up in one sentence..."where the sun never stops shining and this chip pans never get cold"
Thank you so much for these uploads! These actors and their characters are pure gold ❤
Some are not acting. Julie Goodyears delusions of grandeur carry through. She's a vile person in real life and Lynch is just a vehicle.
Rita about Mavis : “It’s like having a constipated spaniel in shop” 😂😂
Imagine if Jack had heard Mavis talking about weddings. “I don’t do well at weddings myself-mind, I ‘ad a traumatic experience at one. Our Vera said ‘Yes’. “
Jack’s already done that line. Can’t remember the year or the episode, but he has 😁
Hahah ur right I think it was a few months back of this season
Poor old Jack.
3:08:17 - one of my favourite scenes. Got to love Hilda! And 1:51:08 with Mavis and Phyllis was fabulous. Wasn't Phyllis hilarious!
Pity Martin didn't stay in France with Jenny. 2 really annoying characters.
When Susan Baldwin says she may as well be married to Bluebeard, I was wishing she had been. Then he could have shut her in the cellar and given our ears a rest from her complaining and grating voice. On a brighter note, by late 1987 at least the Susan-Mike marriage was on its last legs.
Susan was dreadful, childish and unbearable. God knows what Mike was thinking when he married her. She was never happy, complaining about being regarded as the 'little woman' or a 'brood mare'. I got the impression that all the poor guy wanted was to be a father to a child, not half a dozen. She might not have been brought up by Ken, but she was definitely his daughter, self-righteous, never uncomplaining and far less impressive in reality than she was in her own head. Deidrie, as annoying as she was, didn't deserve to be lumbered with Ken, nor Mike with Susan.
One the worst characters ever
She's a spoilt little brat
I think susan was extremely patient with mike's male shauvanistic way. He can make his own tea..after all, . he does have hands ....and a brain .
Being married to mike baldwin would turn any good woman sour.
And ....he only married ...her to make babies! My god!!!!.
Yep, susan was well shot of that one! She couldve ended up in that kitchen forever!!! Well done susan..
When Alec was thanking Jack, Gloria and Margo for ‘holding the fort’ whilst he was in Torremolinos, and Jack suggested he just slip something extra in their pay packets, I’m surprised Alec didn’t go “ Like a P45, you mean, Jack?”
Angry Kevin shouting again how he has lasted so long I'll never know
He's a loud mouthed tosspot.
Little yappy dog - always barking.
Kevin is a repellent character ... then, and now.
That's all Kevin does is shout he's shouted his way through the last fourty years
Agreed. An insufferable tiresome whining character.
Just love jacks jokes about vera
Thank you!
The Susan character was just awful. So pompous and annoying like Ken.
Agreed. A brat, screaming and shouting until she gets what she wants, then acting like a sulky little girl when her plans don't work out.
So basically Ken’s telling Susan “ You made your bed, so lie in it.” I could understand if he was a Catholic, like Ivy, and thought marriage had to be for life whatever- but he isn’t!
@@alexanderjones9572 He was just making sure the downfall of the Baldwins marriage was their doing and not his. Even though he always hoped it would fail.
@@alexanderjones9572 he's basically saying 'you made the decision against my express wishes, put me through hell with it, I told you not to do it, so you can grow up and reap what you sewed'. He is feeling some righteous indignation!
@@bsaunders5271 got it in one that was a great way of putting it👍 👌
Wish Bet and Alec would have stayed together..they where so funny together
Had stayed together *
Is that so???
Love Pet Shop Boys in the setting up of the street party! ❤
Drearys hair?plus Martin has a good blow dry ,pity it doesn't stop him huffing sighing and tutting 😂
Martin could be Jasper Carrot’s grandson.
I love Percy’s hats!
Sally is so crafty and scheming. I want, me me and putting on a little girl act, to get what she wants.
Just like Gail when she wanted a house, both times... Sally just gets worse with it to thru the years to come, nothing is ever good enough... She's like that one girl in charlie in the chocolate factory, "I want MORE"
I think Sally represents a model of rough working class upbringing by a violent drunkard father & a submissive brow beaten mother & a stack of oaffish brothers
Brought up in this environment she would have learned early on how to protect herself & how to obtain what she needed to survive & advance herself.
I knew someone like Sally from a similar family home background.
She was very forward & sort of pushy & wanted to escape from her family & carve out a better future for herself.
I admired her ambition to advance herself & how she learned early on, to use those persons & how to project herself
In an energetic, willing & charming way, she swore shed never have the life her mother had & her poverty had made her keen & observant to any chance or opportunity.
Others who didnt know her or her background called her pushy & a user & using her feminine attributes to get ahead.
She said poverty & lack of anything worthwile in her life had made her keen & hungry to succeed.
I thought she was a clever girl & even with a lack of decent education she cultivated her own learning by listening & copying others, buying books on self improvement & ideas on getting ahead.
I was very fond of her, a tiny slip of a girl like Sally, she let me into her background & asked for my help & guidance when she grew to trust me, which was new to her as she'd never trusted anyone.
She was so eager to learn, willing to work hard, had bundles of energy & was open to absorb any experiences or education to persue her life!
Her humour was one of her best qualities which we cultivated & it was a pleasure to coach her & help her all i could because she was so grateful someone cared enough to help & guide her.
She was just 17yrs then & by the time she was 22yrs she was assistant marketing manager.
At 25yrs she was head of Marketing & Publicity!
She improved in leaps & bounds & so keen like a sponge to absorb everything.
Later when she became confident we smoothed down her rough edges & polished her personality
And she became one of the best friends i had.
Shes now married ( very well) had a family, started her own PR company, travelled around the world & achieved much
Shes still a cheeky imp though😆 but tempered & its earned her great admiration.
She always said it was her Hunger to build a better life which sharpened her determination to get ahead & she could twist others round her little finger & hustle like the best of them.
But it was her charm, cheek, hoodwinking & cajoling with such
Convincing abilities that kept her hunger keen & sharp.
There arent many ive come across over the years since then, that were like my friend, most are lazy & think the world owes them
They lack the hunger & sharp keeness, as the majority are spoiled brats & havent had the initiative to set about advancing & improving their life by hard work & willingness to learn.
Weve brought up a generation of slobs & malcontents these days who want want want without any effort or hunger to lift themselves up the ladder of success.
We need more "Sallys" today
They are a dying breed.
Regards
🇬🇧👧
@@itallia666 i cant belive I just read all that lol
Sally always got on my nerves
@@cherylreznor181 That makes one of us
There is no way a lady can get married without her knowledge! You need to get a license, and whatever else Britain needs before your wed! 😂🤣
2:48:41 Has Alec not rumbled what Bet is doing yet? Once married, is it not classed as a joint tenancy? Therefore Bet would not owe Alec the money she borrowed off of him. As far as I'm aware.
Shes pure slime. Thief and fugitive. Splept with Alec to avoid prosecution.
I think for Percy the war lasted 20 years.
So all the marriages that never produced a kid
Emily and Ernest
Audrey and Alf
Mavis and Derek
Ken and Deirdre
Ivy and Don
None of them are ‘proper’ marriages, right Mike?
All those on the list with the exception of Deidre and Ken married later in life though. K and D were supposed to be 'trying for a baby' for a while weren't they, but I think the writers changed direction with them.
not for the want of trying, ey, ey 😉
That's his opinion
Kevin always shouting 😷
O think that was the extent of his acting abilities.
Jenny's voice and personality are unique ... I hope.
The writers show Alec reading the Daily Telegraph ... he's probably a grasping Tory, in their book ...
Jenny Bradly is the creme de la creme, according to Sally ... if so, it's gone sour, horribly sour ...
About time Jack go a haircut; makes him look cleaner.
Mike getting dragged to the stocks 😂😂
New specs for our Deidre
1:21:38 Roy Barraclough comedy masterclass 😂😂😂
jenny is a great little motivater. thanks for uploading
So with both Aubrey and Gayle at the cafe, who’s taking care of the baby??!
Allen his bonehead dishonest actions toward Rita
I’m sure Gail and Audrey are sharing that blue and pink checked jacket 🤔
Emily would never have been so rude, especially to Alf, who is a real gentleman. He was making a valid point in a non aggressive manner!
I think they've been pushing the assertive, pushy, bossy Emily angle a bit too much. It was cute when she stood up for Curly but she's just starting to look like a bit too militant.
@@bercg Yes maybe.
Luv it from nz
Loved Bets hair in Spain
Did Alf win back his Council Seat???
Literaly want to say never mind Mike sacking Susan, i wish producers had, she cant act for tuppence and her voice is so irratable, they had a few susans but this one was the worst of the bad bunch.
When you have to express an opinion through grammar, how else could you do it other than "literally"? 🤷🏻♂️
Well, perhaps it's more helpful to focus on what's being expressed rather than how it's being communicated. The unsuitability of Mike and Susan's marriage is signalled disaster from the day it happened. I can't believe they'd involve Mike in such a weak, ridiculous storyline. A girl of 21 married a man over 25 years older than him. It's absurd. I don't think the acting ability of the woman playing Susan is an issue here, it's the bad planning and writing,
@@MarcoNegrisEye literally shut up
@@cherylreznor181 happy you've got that off your CHEST ? 😲😂
Some actors could read a shopping list and make it sound moving. Susan reads as script and makes it sound like a shopping list.
Gloria is a good character they could have done more with, I feel.
Ready made hot pot? Frozen no less? Instant gravy? Why have a "cook" at all? Bet was may not have cared for Margo but she was right from a business perspective.
Betty Driver couldn't cook. It was all a marketing ploy, she wasnthappy about.
Susan is a spoiled brat!
Lazy Susan earnt her name I guess.
Susan is a brat. He got that right.
Susan was young and in love,... or so she thought. She was Manipulated by an old , selfish sexist who only married her for her reproductive
body. she was purely a baby making machine for him. sexist assholes like that dont deserve wives at all. Yeah susan! Go susan!! Whoop whoop!!!😃
Jack and the bouncy castle and Mavis masks oh my vee
ugg rita involved with horrible bradley and jenny she is just as bad .
Bet looks like Wilma Flintstone 😂 1:41:15
Deidre never looked better than in the 80's.
Dreary Barlow looks like Lenny the Lion ...
Can’t bare Jenny ….there, I’ve said it …..🤷🏼♂️😳
Nasty Alan reared his ugly head over the past couple of months...This storyline is going to build. I remember these episodes shown early morning on ITV3. They started the run from 1986
Glad Bet's back...Hilda is a spiteful old bag at times...Bet's done a lot for her in the past, but she always sticks her nose in and stirs the pot, yet when it comes to her own business, she's quick to tell people to mind their own business...Glad she's going soon. There wasn't a lot more they could do with her character by this point. She's a bad stereotype of decades past
I wish that Sally, Kevin, Gail, Ivy and Ken had gone with her...
Of course, Jack had to diddle the poor kid, who needs the operation, out of a few quid.
Can’t stand Susan
Why is Rita keeping the wedding a secret??!
God those old dudes back then really thought school was the be all and end all didn't they? It was a waste of time when I went in the 90s and you should have a look at what passes as school now my daughter goes. I thought it was bad when I went but the magic they're trying to indoctrinate into their brains now 🤦🏻♂️
I was in exactly her shoes at this point (Aug 87) I was facing going back to school to do my A-Levels, it was the last thing I wanted to do and very nearly did a runner
The 70s and 80s were worse. We had druggie hippies trying to inspire us 🙄
2:24:20 "eee what a little treasure you found for us with that one"
She looks like she's been dug up tbf 🤢
I WONDER IF mavis goes out on Hallowwen.
SHE'S A BIT old I'd say.
Did Mike ever have an affair with Bet? 🤔
Yes he broke her heart in the 70s when he first came into corrie
@@CherylReznor162xx thanks! 🍻👍
She lived with him.
@@TraceyMella thanks!
Susan Baldwin or this particular actress was very wooden in this part. Her face barely changes no matter whether supposed to be distressed, happy, sad, depressed, euphoric, angry, she just stays the same, occasionally an eye brow raises, but otherwise monotone voice and fixed face.
William ash he was a ten year old 3:26:44
How people watched this drivel I will never know. It's amateur dramatics at it's best.
Sorry but I don’t care about Sean and his charity. We don’t know who he is.