@@Lemuel928 It's implied Glimmer and Nikol find different partners. While the original Nikol and Glimmer would have Shulk and Rex's surnames - whatever they may be - their Kevesi and Agnian reincarnations wouldn't. Therefore, said surnames would have to come from their partners. (note that they founded different houses, Ortiz and Rhodes.) Maybe the True Nikol and Glimmer get together when the worlds reunite, but then the people of House Rhodes and Ortiz would possibly never come to exist. So there's the argument to be made that they're decidedly not fated to be together. On the flipside, It's implied that Noah and Mio are fated to be together after the worlds reunite, so given the time, Matthew, Na'el, Geurnica, Monica, and both Ghondors are safer than most. (None of them are likely to meet the respective casts of 1, 2, or FR, mind you. Except Grandfather Ghondor I guess. MAYBE Glimmer or Mio will live old enough to see Matthew and Na'el if she's lucky, but that's a huge if, considering how old Grandfather Ghondor was.) As a side note, all of this speculation comes with the knowledge of the implication that everyone who was first born in Aionios (ergo, not Kevesi/Agnian, but rather members of the City descended from the founders) will eventually get reborn naturally once the worlds reunite, although maybe not under the same exact circumstances.
Shulk's family tree: "I married my childhood friend and had a kid in the process" Rex's family tree: *Half the fucking cast of the entire series, including Noah and maybe even Shulk's family if Nikol and Glimmer get together in the end*
Unfortunately I don't think they got together at the end because they have different family tree afterwards and have different family names after.. Maybe they can split the family name together after they have two child but tfor the simplest answer I don't think they are together..
@@MisterFath Nikol and Glimmer both probably got their respective family names through marriage as they do not have one originally, which would indicate that they indeed did not end up together.
Rex's family tree: *A and Malos are now aunts and uncles, and Klaus is now a grandfather if you count the trinity processor cores as his children. Which then connects over to Shulk's family tree.*
Ever since that one photo, I've been grappling with the fact that Rex is related to literally half the people in the City, from Mathew, Na'el, and Glimmer
@@ltb1345 guess that makes Rex the Joseph then. He even has children with multiple women and returns much older to help his descendant in a part that introduces a new power. The fact that the older form of Ouroboros that the Future Redeemed party has (Rex included) resembles a Stand adds even more to this notion. Difference is, Rex didn't cheat.
The main cast of Future Redeemed consists of: Rex Rex's great-great-grandson Rex's great-great-granddaughter Rex's sibling-in-law Rex's daughter Rex's best pal Rex's best pal's son This also means that Glimmer is A's niece, and Matthew and Na'el's great-grandaunt, while A is Matthew and Na'el's great-great-grandaunt(?). Also worth mentioning is that Guernica, Monica, and Ghondor are distant descendants of: Rex, The Queen of Agnus, and Moebius M, while also being distant nieces and nephew of Glimmer and A. Na'el inherited her Core Crystal from her great-grandmother, who in turn inherited it from her mother, despite no other descendants of Mio seeming to have it, while Monica inherited her naming skills from her distant grandfather. The fact that so many of these were alive at the same time is just silly.
And at some point, Rex's family line must have crossed wires with the descendants of the Vandham of xenoblade 2 for Matthew to get the vandham last name making The original Vandham a distant relative of Rex's
@@GreenGG01 Not necessarily. Rex could have (and probably did, considering Vandham from 2 was never shown to have any kids) adopted the surname in his honor.
my favorite part about rex is that he admired Vandham so strongly his appearance got embedded in his genes and ended up popping up several generations later
Tbf, they're only technically related. Those genes are long gone especially since they came from the Tornan king's parents. That's a long long long time ago.
one thing to mention is that Nia herself is not gormotti and not a cat, she is a fox blade and only got the cat genes from eating her "sister". that means Mio has 2 mom as she shares both the dna of Nia and her "sister"
Yup. Mio has 5 parents, 4 of which are her moms, and 3 of which she's genetically related to, while 1 of those 3 she's never met and might not have even known existed.
@@5h3nn0ng don’t forget Ino who is artificial blade. And since Tora n his fam are basically the fathers of all artificial blades, we could consider Ino as such.
Fun trivia: early into Xenoblade 1's development, Reyn was going to become the antagonist after betraying the party. So to note: I speculate might've been less himbo, and might've been possessed by Zanza. But in a way, his descendant fulfilled the role.
I am also not only a Sena is the daughter of Mòrag and futa Brighid believer (Blades are wacky enough that intersex through willpower isn't out of the question) But Dunban and Vanea believer, they got Lanz, making him Nikol's cousin, just a family of machines and machine-lovers.
@thiefkingparsley576 her wings are a completely different color than Meila's and Eunie's eyes don't match Melia's eyes and possiblynot Shulk's either. Shulk's eyes are a greenish-blue while Eunie's are the exact same a Noah's eyes. Melia would've mentioned being with someone at somepoint in her hero quests.
@@pasudraws4206 I assumed that Ino was actually built by Soosoo and the "Oosoo" name given is actually just a misnomer. One letter off is barely a distinction, but enough to avoid name-dropping him directly.
Hollis The doctor who explained how babies were made In xenoblade 3 Is Actually from house Rhodes to Meaning he explained The birds and the bees To his ancestors half sister I just wanted to put that out there, Because I thought it was so funny 😂
And that's ignoring all the other crazy speculation like Ashera is Panacea's sister or Crys is Nikol's brother, Eunie and/or Noah are Melia and/or Dunban's kid(s), and so on and so forth What I wouldn't give for an official family tree
We can actually speculate who are the parents of Eunie and Lanz because there are not many high entia and machina people by the end of XC1. I would say Lanz mother is Vanea because she is the only Machina i've seen with red eyes
I personally think Noah is Dunban's son since they have a lot of similar qualities such as the long hair, deep thinker, wise, both use thin sharp swords, both being some of the best soldiers in their perspective worlds, etc. Of course, they don't have the same eye or hair color but since maternal genes are dominant, we can assume he gets the blue eyes and black hair frim his mother
you forgot to mention that Ashera is also probably Reyn and Sharla's daughter. She has the same features as Sharla, Dunban's talent art and Panacea shows concern over Matthew possibly losing a sibling in FR which she relates to with Ashera being part of the cycle of rebirth.
@@julien827 unlikely. The way Panacea acts towards Matthew about his sister being in danger really emphasises that Ashera is Reyn and Sharla's daughter and therefore Panacea's sister. It's more likely Dunban was Ashera's master, while Panacea takes more from her mother. I don't know whether this means Reyn died and wasn't around to raise Ashera, but what it does mean is that Reyn's kids take very little from him, except for probably Reyn's weapon of choice.
1:55 Fairly certain that the Aionios Moments book (or something like that) confirmed that Riku is the descendent of Riki specifically. This would make Riku's comment in Future Redeemed about his father and his "masterpon Melly" being traveling adventures (and the story taking way too long to explain the details of) explicitly referring to the events of Xenoblade 1... which honestly makes more sense on the "too long to even explain" front, since I can describe Future Connected in 1-2 sentences while the XC1 is FAR more complicated.
Canonically, we only really know of Nikol, Panacea, Mio, Glimmer, Linka and Riku, but you can make a case for Zeon, Crys, Ashera, Lanz, Dirk, Cammuravi, Ino (Through Oosoo) and Sena.
Shulk's kid: Well homeboy definitely got a nerd for a child just like him. Rex's kid: Oh you can tell she definitely either inherited the tsundere vibes from either Pyra OR Mythra. Still hot though lol.
Late to the party, but just want to say... Rex's kids with Nia, Pyra and Mythra are only the ones we KNOW. Remember, Rex had other blades... Other rare blades... Other rare blades that if on him could be veeeery affectionate to him (I consider the rare blade Kora to be a canon Rex blade because of her Blade quest and their dialogue where she asks him if her dress hugs her right)
Rex family tree basically a comedy at this point 🤣.. And it will be more complicated in the next Xenoblade installments.. Maybe those Mythra child will be revealed..
@@IcyDragonRB I think I prefer A with Matthew.. I don't think Shulk is that kind of person who does poly relationship like Rex.. even if it's possible because of Entia also weird family tree..
It would be hysterical if Mythra's kid would end up being MC of Xenoblade chronicles 4 in a New world, since klaus saga has ended and would spread Rex's family there with 3 wifes as well 😂
Great video! Love your channel! Hoping mythras kid will be a main party member in Xenoblade 4...although this implys that they wouldnt get to be with their family since im willing to bet xb4 will take place at the point in time when shania and (girl) ghondor would be born. Which would be atleast 1000 years after properly recombinding. What I mean is that if mythra kid is a big character in xc4 they are likely to have a sad backstory....
Or you know.... there might not be a XC4 with the next Xeno project being a brand new timeline like what happened with Xenogears, Xenosaga and Xenoblade
There’s speculation that the shooting star at the end of future connected was kos-mos. Hinting that maybe the different xeno worlds are fused or something fun
@lanteanboy that's true, I would love that as well. However, all of the previous new "xeno" series have been forced by monolthsoft changing companies. As well as genki yokota sating the Xenoblade series will go on after 3 and they want to make them for as long as possible. I, however, would love another new xeno property like you stated, but Nintendo probably doesn't want to give up the Xenoblade brand...
@pasudraws4206 I definitely think that was Kos-Mos as well! Kos-Mos was looking for lost Jerusalem in xenosaga 3, which is earth. The people already out in space lost connection with earth once Klaus did his experiment on earth and the two split halves of earth became pocket dimensions and after 3 properly reformed. So I guess the next game theoretical Xc4 would be xenosaga 4 as well due to Kos-Mos finally finding lost Jerusalem.
My favourite part about Rex’s family tree is that he as a great x(who cares) grand son named Guernica Vandham who looks and sounds like Vandham from Uraya by pure happenstance
A pretty good compilation of the family trees but i've got a few fan theories to add onto this you might be interested in: 1. I believe dunban actually had a child and that would be ashera. I mean she looks like a female dunban but look at dunbans signature phrase: "Born in a world of strife, against the odds, we choose to fight", this is basically ashera's entire character description, even quoting these lines at certain points. But the part that clinches it, her special art is blossom dance, and she even wears the blossom dance symbol as a hair pin 2. It is a shame that mythras child is never confirmed but i'm sure you know that a popular idea is her child might be blackblaze dirk. Though i think that comes from the fact he's the only significant character on the agnian side with blond hair. Still an interesting idea, no one said that all of rex's children had to be heroes, especially after 1000's of years of war 3. Before future redeemed i had a personal theory that crys was shulks son, but now with more information i think its possible that crys might be nikol's son instead, possibly nikol and glimmers. The shulk family resemblance is obvious but also crys has more of nikols "i shouldnt be here fighting" quiet personality. Factor in the passion for music coming from glimmer and its quite possible 4. Another candidate for a child of glimmer could also be cammuravi. He's got the red eyes, fire powers and his spear looks nearly identical to glimmers, minus the part about turning into a cello atleast 5. You mentioned sena possibly being a child of brigid, i still think thats entirely possible as the blue fire is very unique for them. Though not sure who the other parent could be 6. Just to add onto tora's family tree, in xb3 we meet ino, an artificial blade made by a "professor oosoo". Clearly reminiscent of soosoo but not the same, so perhaps tora had a child and semi named him after his grampypon?
The whole crys being nikol's son theory doesn't make sense since everyone born in aionios aren't in the keves and agnus cycle, crys being nikol's son would make him the equivalent of a city person. Someone who wouldn't get put into the system and would just disappear after death. We know that everyone in keves and agnus already existed in the world's of bionis and alrest so crys being a keves soldier makes no sense if he's the son of nikol.
@@potatofarmergyro1720 Well something that comes to mind with that is how moebius was able to put shania onto the flame clock system despite her being a city born person. Now we dont know if she was actually capable of reincarnating in a pod since she became moebius before it ever happened, but she was given a flame clock. So its possible moebius could have done the same with crys at some point I just feel like the resemblance to shulk has to mean something, and he does have more of nikols subdued personality. So its either that, or maybe shulk had 2 sons that both got caught in the origin cycle
@@gamezx crys is more likely to be shulk's son then nikol's like it still doesn't make sense why crys is a keves soldier even if he's put into the reincarnation cycle and why would crys help noah if moebius put him in the cycle in the first place, wouldn't he help moebius? And why would moebius go through all that effort to change crys's status in aionios not once but twice as both a keves soldier and a consul??? And even after all that crys would still help noah? Like that makes no sense
Appreciate the massive comment! I could see Asher’s being dunban’s kid. Another commenter mentioned them possibly being sharla and reyns kid as well. Cammuravi being Glimmer’s descendant could be interesting as well
@@pasudraws4206 ashera does look really similar to panacea so who knows maybe dunban mentored her a lot like how shulk mentored panacea. Also cammuravi being glimmer's descendent wouldn't make sense since he's an agnian and not a lost number. Everyone in the kevesi and agnian sides already existed before aionios was a thing so only city people aka lost numbers can be descendents of past characters in aionios.
This is incredibly pedantic and doesn’t affect the rest of the video in any way, but: Melia and Tyrea don’t share any parents, and thus aren’t half-siblings (and aren’t related in anyway). Melia and Kallian are half-siblings, and Kallian and Tyrea are half-siblings, but Melia and Tyrea are not Loved the video btw ☺️
I think Ino probably could’ve been mentioned as a poppi/tora relative, also also A is actually split off from Alpha by N’s attack on Alpha after killing Ghondor, the fact that A’s split off is due to N’s power and A being Alvis’s conscious formed of their memories of traveling with Shulk makes A Alpha’s moebius in both a thematic and literal sense, it also explains why A is so insistent on Matthew hearing N’s side of the story before doing something drastic because they both exist cause of the root desire of wanting to be with the person they hold dear, it’s a really cool parallel!
One thing I have heard and seems convincing, but isn't confirmed, is, that Haze actually never returned to her core, as Lora technically never died, as she is cryogenically frozen (we know from a Sidequest, that a cryogenically frozen Driver doesn't count as dead) and her heart lives on in Jin. This would mean, Amalthus only became her driver by implanting half her core into him, basically lobotomising her. I think, Sena is (at least genetically) the daughter of Brighid & Aegaeon. If both her parents are blades, that would explain, why she is the most blade-like party member, having visible Aether lines, something both Mio and Taion lack.
Oh, Aegaeon, never thought of that, because I’m pretty sure the common assumption was that either Zeke or Rex would be the surrogate father (if Mòrag and Brighid really were in lesbians with each other)
i think its good to mention that there are guldos that were humans modified by the blade brain cell things in morytha to extend their lifespan and rex finds her id close to a big guldo (infernal guldo) which uses the same model as the fog king in future connected. it's likely that the infernal guldo is her form in alrest.
Love this video but one critique: the world of Xenoblalde 2 is ALSO a pocket dimension like 1. Evidence of this is the FR ending which shows the two pocket universes as glowing balls of light. If Xenosaga is now cannon, this also makes sense since earth or "Lost Jerusalem" seemingly disappeared but the end of FR and Xenosaga 3 have KOS-MOS floating down to earth well after the events of the Xenosaga trilogy. Earth came back after the two pocket dimensions interlinked, returning to the main universe and became a new Earth.
I don't think the part with A and Ethel checks out, since A only came to be after Aionios was formed already, so any potential kids wouldn't be part of the rebirth circle. Unless a lot of crazy stuff happened like with Shania
I mean Sena's gotta be Brighid and Aegaeon. She has the same hair as Brighid, she has a different core shape because she's born from 2 different blades, Aegaeon has dark skin which could be why Sena has darker skin than Brighid, idk something about her element being more electric related than fire because of her "Maximum Voltage" art ok idk where I was actually going with that lol.
I think the fiery hair is the most convincing part. Maybe if her weapon were similar to one of the others it’d be more apparent. But I’d also prefer if Brighid and Morag were in love
I personally theorized that Sena was born from thoughts of Morag and Brighid rather than of Morag and Brighid themselves. What do I mean by that? In XC2, there is an NPC named Fadhail who gives the Merc Mission Longing For Morag. The description for the Merc Mission details how Fadhail wants Female Fire Blades to help him train to be strong and eventually awaken a Blade to emulate Morag and Brighid because he idolizes them. So, we have a prospective Driver who constantly has Morag and Brighid in mind, loves to train, and has a tendency to cling to an idol and emulate their behavior. And what do we know about Sena? She is a Blade with traits that appear to be a mix of features from both Morag and Brighid, she loves to train, and she has a tendency to emulate other people. Looks like a classic case of a Blade inheriting their Driver’s traits and being influenced by their thoughts to me.
There’s a secret cutscene at Riku’s workshop in future redeemed, where Riku says, “Dadapon of Riku and Melly once traveling companions”, implying that his father is either Riki or Kino. Then the Xenoblade 3 artbook which released in April confirmed that Riku was one of Riki’s sons.
@@pasudraws4206 sad that most peoples who played the other Xenoblade always came down with "i haven’t played that one" and/or "i plan on maybe playing it someday" because it’s genuinely is a great game (just sad it’s stuck on the WiiU)
I do have to add that Kino isn't Riki and his wife Oka son. He was adopted! Kino looks up to his father and his arc in Future Connected is being himself and accepting his OWN way of being like his adopted father then. It's suspected he's Riku's ancestor or father, and while it does mean Riku isn't ! The funny thing is it's all about LEGACY more then Blood that makes a person share traits to someone, even if they have no bio blood to them! Kino may not be Riki son biologically! But he is still his son in spirit! Plus he does alot of awesome stuff on purpose compared to his father's accidental heroism (not that Riki is a fake hero, While the village chief DID pick Riki as Heropon largely cause he owes him LOL! He didn't JUST pick Riki without LEGIT reasoning! Seeing how competent Riki is and a pretty good All Arounder battle wise! Riki does have the skills to back up his boasts! What I love about Riki, especially as a Reminder of the game's "Three Party system" is he can be adjustable to any role you need him to be with bonuses even the SPECIALIST characters don't have! Like a Reyn (HP/Defense Tank) with Melia's Ether damage dealing! He just won't be better then said characters MAJORLY in their Role! Reyn's still beats him as he DOES have better block on his gunlance shields can make it to his HP levels Riki just reaches the max 9999 sooner And better Defense and Arts as a Safety net if he's at risk of dying makes Reyn the better DEFENSE TANK then Riki who has better ETHER defense!) and you do see this with Riku who does give GREAT support! Basically Dickson without well BEING DICKSON (as in giving all that support, but not doing what Dickson did in being "FUCKING MIANG" remember Dickson SHOOTS Shulk when the time comes like Miang did to Fei when she succeeded in becoming one with Elly again and took advantage of Fei not knowing to catch him off guard! Dickson was XB1 "Miang" if you mixed her with Citan as Dickson and Shulk relationship was akin to Fei and Citan) Also it's better to use Fan and Haze to tell the difference between the two! Fan is the one you meet in XB2 main story! At this point she's reborn as Amalthus Blade, though he damaged her via taking half her Core Crystal that even JIN realizes the NORMAL form of rebirth for Blades isn't what is happening with Fan and worse, even taking out the fact she resonated with Amalthus meaning she isn't the "Little Haze" he knew back then! She's WAY worse because Amalthus essentially did the equalivant of "lobotomizing her" hence killing her was both to DEPRIVE Amalthus of her power (seeing how HE is the one responsible for Loras death, and Haze took on Loras appearance and as said, seeing her as a little sister! It likely made Jin hate Amalthus more then he already did at that point) But yeah! When we say Fan, best to say we're referring to who we see in XB2 main story! And when we say Haze, we're talking about Torna the Golden Country of her!
I like to believe that Noah is the son of Melia, since Mio is the daughter of Nia, Noah could probably be considered her son with the two paralleling each other
The parallel would be neat for sure! I’m not sure if entia wings are a dominant trait or not, but I’d imagine he’d have wings if he were related though, even if they were little ones
@@pasudraws4206 I know Noah doesn't have wings, but I have another point that might show their connection. Remember in the first cutscenes when the two worlds were being merged, Noah was not frozen, but also Melia and Nia were also not frozen when it happened, so there must be a connection between him and Melia
@@0isthe1 trueeee, they also never explain why Noah and Mio could continue to be reborn even after reaching their 10 year limit. Zed just says they’re special, so maybe if they have some relation to the queens it’d line up. Granted glimmer didn’t exist beyond her homecoming, but maybe that’s because she got to live out a full life and didn’t reach her normal homecoming
I think rather than Melia, Noah is closer to Dunban.. Their arts and weapon of choice is really close enough.. And they look similar when Noah put his hair down as N.. Maybe he is the son of Dunban..
The missing part is how Noah is a descendant of Vandham from Uraya. It needs to be explained because Noah is from Keves, in other words from Bionis, not Alrest
You forgot Noah's family tree, why? Because it's most likely that the Vandham surname comes from him not, Rex, why? Because there is a Vandham alive on XC1, or like it's know by the english fanbase, and was probably retcon in this last game, Coronel Vangarre is actually Coronel Vandham, and since Japan doesn't care about the english mistranslation of this kind of stuff... Yeah, the odd of Noah being either the son or Grandson of Coronel Vandham are higher then the surname Vandham coming from Mio's side. P.S: If you don't believe me go change the settings to Japanese audip and look cutscenes with all the Vandhams and Coronel Vangarre in Japanese, you will see it's the same Vandham
O.k i honestly figured this out after playing xenoblade 3. I realized how insanely fcked up the family tree was in 3 so i did my best to ignore it so i can proudly say that 3 was indeed amazing and love was a good central topic in that games story. Now my ignored nightmare has come back to haunt me.....
There is a theory that Consul D(Dirk) is actually Rex and Mythra's kid due to him being blonde, Agnian, has the same facial hair as Rex, a bit unhinged and pompous like Mythra was pre-trauma, plus his projectile attack is the basically the same as Mythra's.
@@pasudraws4206 I get your point. It does make sense. To me, at least not all villains must have a deep story, tragic past or surprisingly sound motives. There are people who are just plain evil. He's just the same as Mumkhar, but where Mumkhar had purpose in the story, Dirk is just there to "bad Moebius be bad." I would rewrite the story to hint on him being Mythra's kid, and also delay Eunie's breakthrough so that D would go down when she surpasses her trauma.
@@pasudraws4206 Maybe Dirk in original world of Alrest is not that Evil like in Aionios.. He might be become like that because of constant never ending war.. And he's sure learned his lesson because of Joran at the end.. He might be become different type of person in the next installments
No, A is just Alvis, so there’s no way that she’s related to Matthew. The only roundabout way they could be in the same family tree is: Matthew being the great great grandson of Rex, who married both Pyra and Mythra, who could be considered to be the sisters of Alvis.
@@julien827 Not quite blue, kind of a turkis-greenish colour. Also, it would be weird to name your child after yourself. It makes more sense (as it is tradition in a lot of countries) to name your son after your dad (ie the child's grandfather).
im guessing that the original noah is probably a decendant of xeno 2 vandham in some way or maybe just a kid from the orphange who took it as a family name. direct child seems unlikely since xeno 2 vandham was urayn and noah doesnt posses those traits
Il y a un vandham dans chaque jeu xenofan ( colonel vangarre est une mauvaise traduction dans xc1 et vandham dans xcX donc c'est pas forcément celui du 2 )
rethinking on this one i remembered noah is a kevesi which means hes originally from the xb 1 universe so its likely thats hes completly unrelated to xb 2 vandham. vandamns just a constant throught the multiverse i supose
Separate houses right not like they can't split the house's Remember there's house Vandham and house Doyle Whom our brother and sister, by the way So what i'm trying to get here is that glimmer and Nikol Might of had Two children Who split the houses I mean, in the main game. It states that they're very close the Two house's
I don't understand how or why people pronounce names from these games wrong when they all have voice acting and say the major character's names out loud. Miqol, Gadolt, Sorean, etc... is it willful ignorance or are you making a conscious decision to say them incorrectly?
Great question, it’s a combination of laziness, misremembering, and listening to the Japanese and English audio. For example, in Japanese for Gadolt they pronounce the name with a more hard A and in English they use a soft A. So whatever comes out of my mouth during a recording is what happens and unless it sounds wrong to my ears I won’t catch a mistake.
@@MoonMillenniummon why can’t she be their daughter you homophobic or something. Just look at them. They look like a lesbian couple especially in the cursed rex pic
Rex took "you can help this list by expanding it" literally.
He really loves everybody
Had to make sure he had a big family for Pyra 😛
@@pasudraws4206Showed em all a thing or three
His daughter Glimmer is now part of Shulk’s family and thus Rex is a Grandfather.
@@Lemuel928 It's implied Glimmer and Nikol find different partners. While the original Nikol and Glimmer would have Shulk and Rex's surnames - whatever they may be - their Kevesi and Agnian reincarnations wouldn't. Therefore, said surnames would have to come from their partners. (note that they founded different houses, Ortiz and Rhodes.) Maybe the True Nikol and Glimmer get together when the worlds reunite, but then the people of House Rhodes and Ortiz would possibly never come to exist. So there's the argument to be made that they're decidedly not fated to be together.
On the flipside, It's implied that Noah and Mio are fated to be together after the worlds reunite, so given the time, Matthew, Na'el, Geurnica, Monica, and both Ghondors are safer than most. (None of them are likely to meet the respective casts of 1, 2, or FR, mind you. Except Grandfather Ghondor I guess. MAYBE Glimmer or Mio will live old enough to see Matthew and Na'el if she's lucky, but that's a huge if, considering how old Grandfather Ghondor was.)
As a side note, all of this speculation comes with the knowledge of the implication that everyone who was first born in Aionios (ergo, not Kevesi/Agnian, but rather members of the City descended from the founders) will eventually get reborn naturally once the worlds reunite, although maybe not under the same exact circumstances.
Shulk's family tree: "I married my childhood friend and had a kid in the process"
Rex's family tree: *Half the fucking cast of the entire series, including Noah and maybe even Shulk's family if Nikol and Glimmer get together in the end*
Unfortunately I don't think they got together at the end because they have different family tree afterwards and have different family names after.. Maybe they can split the family name together after they have two child but tfor the simplest answer I don't think they are together..
Yeah, I think they just got with random people
*LETS SHOW EM A THING OR THREE*
@@MisterFath Nikol and Glimmer both probably got their respective family names through marriage as they do not have one originally, which would indicate that they indeed did not end up together.
Rex's family tree: *A and Malos are now aunts and uncles, and Klaus is now a grandfather if you count the trinity processor cores as his children. Which then connects over to Shulk's family tree.*
“I love you and all you guys” - rex ancestor of 70% of all city folk
Ethical Genghis
@@thunderknight4149Gengis=chaotic evil
Rex=chaotic good
Incest is running wild in the City... 💀💀💀
Pyra: "I'd love to have a family as big as yours, Rex."
Rex: Bet.
😂😂
Challenge accepted-Rex stintson probably
Ever since that one photo, I've been grappling with the fact that Rex is related to literally half the people in the City, from Mathew, Na'el, and Glimmer
Leave it to Uncle Rex indeed
ghengis khan-that’s one of my many boys
Those beautiful bastards finally made something more insane than the Joestar family tree.
At least everyone has different names (side eyes ghondor)
Addam is like the Jonathan Joestar of Xenoblade.
@@ltb1345 guess that makes Rex the Joseph then. He even has children with multiple women and returns much older to help his descendant in a part that introduces a new power. The fact that the older form of Ouroboros that the Future Redeemed party has (Rex included) resembles a Stand adds even more to this notion.
Difference is, Rex didn't cheat.
The main cast of Future Redeemed consists of:
Rex
Rex's great-great-grandson
Rex's great-great-granddaughter
Rex's sibling-in-law
Rex's daughter
Rex's best pal
Rex's best pal's son
This also means that Glimmer is A's niece, and Matthew and Na'el's great-grandaunt, while A is Matthew and Na'el's great-great-grandaunt(?). Also worth mentioning is that Guernica, Monica, and Ghondor are distant descendants of: Rex, The Queen of Agnus, and Moebius M, while also being distant nieces and nephew of Glimmer and A. Na'el inherited her Core Crystal from her great-grandmother, who in turn inherited it from her mother, despite no other descendants of Mio seeming to have it, while Monica inherited her naming skills from her distant grandfather.
The fact that so many of these were alive at the same time is just silly.
the naming skill killed me xd
Rexblade chronicles
And also M is Rex’s daughter too lmao
And at some point, Rex's family line must have crossed wires with the descendants of the Vandham of xenoblade 2 for Matthew to get the vandham last name making The original Vandham a distant relative of Rex's
@@GreenGG01 Not necessarily. Rex could have (and probably did, considering Vandham from 2 was never shown to have any kids) adopted the surname in his honor.
The fact that Glimmer is Matthew and Na'el's great grandaunt is just so ridiculous.
It makes more sense when you remember that the glimmer we see in future redeemed is the one reborn in the cycle, not the original.
my favorite part about rex is that he admired Vandham so strongly his appearance got embedded in his genes and ended up popping up several generations later
Imagine a Thanksgiving/christmas family dinner, it would be a sight to behold
Gather around the large sword for Yuletide merriment!
Aegis family reunion would be cooked
"Why is my son a mass murderer?"
-Mythra probably
I can’t wait for xenoblade 4 to find out the Rex bloodline is halve the world
Rex just Genghis Khan’d Alrest
Long story short,Nikol and Glimmer are married during the events of Xenoblade Chronicles IV.
We might even see Mythra's kid
@@ammonahwong9994 I hope uncle Malos gets reincarnated or reawakened and becomes a main party member in XC4
Its so weird to realize Rex and Zeke are distant cousins
Tbf, they're only technically related. Those genes are long gone especially since they came from the Tornan king's parents. That's a long long long time ago.
500 years is a long time. That's pretty much saying all of us are related
one thing to mention is that Nia herself is not gormotti and not a cat, she is a fox blade and only got the cat genes from eating her "sister". that means Mio has 2 mom as she shares both the dna of Nia and her "sister"
Chimera mom
Yup. Mio has 5 parents, 4 of which are her moms, and 3 of which she's genetically related to, while 1 of those 3 she's never met and might not have even known existed.
I love that mfing tora of all people has the simplest family
Could’ve even put Lila in there and it would’ve still been simple
@pasudraws4206 it's also said that tora has a mom but she divorced his dad because he worked too much on the blade waifu
@@pasudraws4206 Wait, if Tatazo made Lila and Tora made Poppi, does that mean Lila and Tora are effctively siblings (and Poppi is her niece)
@@5h3nn0ng don’t forget Ino who is artificial blade. And since Tora n his fam are basically the fathers of all artificial blades, we could consider Ino as such.
@@5h3nn0ngEh, it’s a little fuzzy. Lila and Poppi refer to each other as sisters.
“Leave it to Uncle Rex.”
Adam had a wife and it's mentioned that she was pregnant, reading between the lines most of Leftheria, includin Rex, are his descendants.
4:58: Looks alright.
5:00: I'LL SHOW 'EM A THING OR THREE
I like your attitude
Fun trivia: early into Xenoblade 1's development, Reyn was going to become the antagonist after betraying the party. So to note: I speculate might've been less himbo, and might've been possessed by Zanza.
But in a way, his descendant fulfilled the role.
I am also not only a Sena is the daughter of Mòrag and futa Brighid believer (Blades are wacky enough that intersex through willpower isn't out of the question) But Dunban and Vanea believer, they got Lanz, making him Nikol's cousin, just a family of machines and machine-lovers.
@@corrinflakes9659 Oh hell no.
The family tree is the best lore aspect i love it.
We love character relationships
Kinda sad that Melia's tree ends with her meanwhile Nia's forever expands
Maybe Shulk can take a page out of Rex’s book
I'd like to think that Eunie is related to her in some way, but her interactions with Eunie would have indicated that, so maybe not.
@@pasudraws4206 a little too late for that.
@thiefkingparsley576 her wings are a completely different color than Meila's and Eunie's eyes don't match Melia's eyes and possiblynot Shulk's either. Shulk's eyes are a greenish-blue while Eunie's are the exact same a Noah's eyes. Melia would've mentioned being with someone at somepoint in her hero quests.
melia's bedroom is in the game and you can clearly see she sleeps in a single bed with one pillow, thats depressing
I was surprised to see Masha being Zekes descandent. Even more surprised to not see Ino being related to Tora in some form.
My guess is that Ino probably is related to tora or poppi in some way
@@pasudraws4206 I assumed that Ino was actually built by Soosoo and the "Oosoo" name given is actually just a misnomer. One letter off is barely a distinction, but enough to avoid name-dropping him directly.
@@wesnohathas1993 oosoo could also be tora's kid for all we know
I can totally buy Oosoo being an alias for Soosoo considering the Nopon’s poor naming sense, as demonstrated in Poppibuster’s Blade Quest.
Hollis The doctor who explained how babies were made In xenoblade 3 Is Actually from house Rhodes to Meaning he explained The birds and the bees To his ancestors half sister I just wanted to put that out there, Because I thought it was so funny 😂
Ah! Missed one, I’m sure there’s many more
How fitting that the one to explain the process of babies is related to rex lmao.
Oh my god Rex’s balls are All over this story
He’s a man of the people
Man I did not realise we had such a long tree on Rex’s side. All the way from that Tornan king to Ghondor, huh.
And that's ignoring all the other crazy speculation like Ashera is Panacea's sister or Crys is Nikol's brother, Eunie and/or Noah are Melia and/or Dunban's kid(s), and so on and so forth
What I wouldn't give for an official family tree
If Ashera is Reyn daughter it means she often hanged out with uncle DunDun.
So basically “everyone is part of the family” one way or another, noice
They really said: Let there be Habsburg
We can actually speculate who are the parents of Eunie and Lanz because there are not many high entia and machina people by the end of XC1. I would say Lanz mother is Vanea because she is the only Machina i've seen with red eyes
im also going to guess he and most other machina in 3 are at least half homs becuase they dont seem that machine like anymore, just grey skin tones
Due to the machina's long lifespan, Lanz was probably in one of the floating pods in the village
I personally think Noah is Dunban's son since they have a lot of similar qualities such as the long hair, deep thinker, wise, both use thin sharp swords, both being some of the best soldiers in their perspective worlds, etc.
Of course, they don't have the same eye or hair color but since maternal genes are dominant, we can assume he gets the blue eyes and black hair frim his mother
He also gets an arm gauntlet in the opposite arm, something dunban had to learn to use, his left arm.
Only problem is, I think Shulk would've recognized N as his friend's son. Shulk didn't seem to know N before fighting him.
I wonder if rex was aware that all the important future redeemed characters were his descendants?
you forgot to mention that Ashera is also probably Reyn and Sharla's daughter. She has the same features as Sharla, Dunban's talent art and Panacea shows concern over Matthew possibly losing a sibling in FR which she relates to with Ashera being part of the cycle of rebirth.
Hmmm, yeah I can see it
Huh, never thought of that but now that you mention it, I can totally see it
ashera could also be dunban's kid with a random woman
@@julien827 unlikely. The way Panacea acts towards Matthew about his sister being in danger really emphasises that Ashera is Reyn and Sharla's daughter and therefore Panacea's sister. It's more likely Dunban was Ashera's master, while Panacea takes more from her mother. I don't know whether this means Reyn died and wasn't around to raise Ashera, but what it does mean is that Reyn's kids take very little from him, except for probably Reyn's weapon of choice.
I hadn't thought of that I always thought Ashera was Dunban's daughter.
1:55 Fairly certain that the Aionios Moments book (or something like that) confirmed that Riku is the descendent of Riki specifically.
This would make Riku's comment in Future Redeemed about his father and his "masterpon Melly" being traveling adventures (and the story taking way too long to explain the details of) explicitly referring to the events of Xenoblade 1... which honestly makes more sense on the "too long to even explain" front, since I can describe Future Connected in 1-2 sentences while the XC1 is FAR more complicated.
Canonically, we only really know of Nikol, Panacea, Mio, Glimmer, Linka and Riku, but you can make a case for Zeon, Crys, Ashera, Lanz, Dirk, Cammuravi, Ino (Through Oosoo) and Sena.
Except you: *looks at jinn*
Jinn: ... *tears before primal rage*
*Reads title* ...You madman.
lol, peak efficiency
Shulk's kid: Well homeboy definitely got a nerd for a child just like him.
Rex's kid: Oh you can tell she definitely either inherited the tsundere vibes from either Pyra OR Mythra. Still hot though lol.
Wasn’t absolutely jacked like rex though
@@pasudraws4206maybe that’s what the elusive third child would be like
@@jomaq9233 some people have joked about dirk being it
Rex one day will claim the title of : ALL FATHER
meanwhile im trying to figure out how sena came to be
brighid got some action too
Ghangis Khan would tell Rex to slow down
If he keeps going maybe we’ll get Xenoblade 4
Late to the party, but just want to say... Rex's kids with Nia, Pyra and Mythra are only the ones we KNOW. Remember, Rex had other blades... Other rare blades... Other rare blades that if on him could be veeeery affectionate to him (I consider the rare blade Kora to be a canon Rex blade because of her Blade quest and their dialogue where she asks him if her dress hugs her right)
Can’t imagine what kind of person Mythra and Rex’s kid is. Ironically, Eunie’s personality would perfectly match that.
Rex, you beautiful Bastard
Rex family tree basically a comedy at this point 🤣.. And it will be more complicated in the next Xenoblade installments.. Maybe those Mythra child will be revealed..
Shulk goes poly with A which connects both families through Pyra/Mythra/A all being sisters? xd
Phenomenal
@@IcyDragonRB I think I prefer A with Matthew.. I don't think Shulk is that kind of person who does poly relationship like Rex.. even if it's possible because of Entia also weird family tree..
@@IcyDragonRB A is more like Shulk's Blade/daughter.
It would be hysterical if Mythra's kid would end up being MC of Xenoblade chronicles 4 in a New world, since klaus saga has ended and would spread Rex's family there with 3 wifes as well 😂
4:22
Me: "... but actually, it still hasn't been fully confirmed that Mio is Nia's daugh-"
OP: *"SILENCE NERD!!!"*
The way Nia reacts when she sees Mio should be enough to confirm that she is Nia's daughter. They explicitly show Nia looking at Mio.
She behaves like Pyra and looks like Nia
It would be a stretch to not call her Nia's daughter
And all of this happen because of a man desire for power
Great video! Love your channel! Hoping mythras kid will be a main party member in Xenoblade 4...although this implys that they wouldnt get to be with their family since im willing to bet xb4 will take place at the point in time when shania and (girl) ghondor would be born. Which would be atleast 1000 years after properly recombinding. What I mean is that if mythra kid is a big character in xc4 they are likely to have a sad backstory....
Or you know.... there might not be a XC4 with the next Xeno project being a brand new timeline like what happened with Xenogears, Xenosaga and Xenoblade
Thanks! We can always use some trauma for an interesting story
There’s speculation that the shooting star at the end of future connected was kos-mos. Hinting that maybe the different xeno worlds are fused or something fun
@lanteanboy that's true, I would love that as well. However, all of the previous new "xeno" series have been forced by monolthsoft changing companies. As well as genki yokota sating the Xenoblade series will go on after 3 and they want to make them for as long as possible. I, however, would love another new xeno property like you stated, but Nintendo probably doesn't want to give up the Xenoblade brand...
@pasudraws4206 I definitely think that was Kos-Mos as well! Kos-Mos was looking for lost Jerusalem in xenosaga 3, which is earth. The people already out in space lost connection with earth once Klaus did his experiment on earth and the two split halves of earth became pocket dimensions and after 3 properly reformed. So I guess the next game theoretical Xc4 would be xenosaga 4 as well due to Kos-Mos finally finding lost Jerusalem.
You forgot about Masterpon Soosoo and his artificial Blade Ino!
Soosoo made it in, Ino I sure did forget about
ino is from oosoo not soosoo
We actually do see Hugo's brother in-game near Addam's home so he could have had a picture
I am sad for Shinia.
This was a good video i hope that 16 hour shift went well to
Thanks! Got another one coming up this weekend unfortunately
My favourite part about Rex’s family tree is that he as a great x(who cares) grand son named Guernica Vandham who looks and sounds like Vandham from Uraya by pure happenstance
A pretty good compilation of the family trees but i've got a few fan theories to add onto this you might be interested in:
1. I believe dunban actually had a child and that would be ashera. I mean she looks like a female dunban but look at dunbans signature phrase: "Born in a world of strife, against the odds, we choose to fight", this is basically ashera's entire character description, even quoting these lines at certain points. But the part that clinches it, her special art is blossom dance, and she even wears the blossom dance symbol as a hair pin
2. It is a shame that mythras child is never confirmed but i'm sure you know that a popular idea is her child might be blackblaze dirk. Though i think that comes from the fact he's the only significant character on the agnian side with blond hair. Still an interesting idea, no one said that all of rex's children had to be heroes, especially after 1000's of years of war
3. Before future redeemed i had a personal theory that crys was shulks son, but now with more information i think its possible that crys might be nikol's son instead, possibly nikol and glimmers. The shulk family resemblance is obvious but also crys has more of nikols "i shouldnt be here fighting" quiet personality. Factor in the passion for music coming from glimmer and its quite possible
4. Another candidate for a child of glimmer could also be cammuravi. He's got the red eyes, fire powers and his spear looks nearly identical to glimmers, minus the part about turning into a cello atleast
5. You mentioned sena possibly being a child of brigid, i still think thats entirely possible as the blue fire is very unique for them. Though not sure who the other parent could be
6. Just to add onto tora's family tree, in xb3 we meet ino, an artificial blade made by a "professor oosoo". Clearly reminiscent of soosoo but not the same, so perhaps tora had a child and semi named him after his grampypon?
The whole crys being nikol's son theory doesn't make sense since everyone born in aionios aren't in the keves and agnus cycle, crys being nikol's son would make him the equivalent of a city person. Someone who wouldn't get put into the system and would just disappear after death. We know that everyone in keves and agnus already existed in the world's of bionis and alrest so crys being a keves soldier makes no sense if he's the son of nikol.
@@potatofarmergyro1720 Well something that comes to mind with that is how moebius was able to put shania onto the flame clock system despite her being a city born person. Now we dont know if she was actually capable of reincarnating in a pod since she became moebius before it ever happened, but she was given a flame clock. So its possible moebius could have done the same with crys at some point
I just feel like the resemblance to shulk has to mean something, and he does have more of nikols subdued personality. So its either that, or maybe shulk had 2 sons that both got caught in the origin cycle
@@gamezx crys is more likely to be shulk's son then nikol's like it still doesn't make sense why crys is a keves soldier even if he's put into the reincarnation cycle and why would crys help noah if moebius put him in the cycle in the first place, wouldn't he help moebius? And why would moebius go through all that effort to change crys's status in aionios not once but twice as both a keves soldier and a consul??? And even after all that crys would still help noah? Like that makes no sense
Appreciate the massive comment! I could see Asher’s being dunban’s kid. Another commenter mentioned them possibly being sharla and reyns kid as well.
Cammuravi being Glimmer’s descendant could be interesting as well
@@pasudraws4206 ashera does look really similar to panacea so who knows maybe dunban mentored her a lot like how shulk mentored panacea. Also cammuravi being glimmer's descendent wouldn't make sense since he's an agnian and not a lost number. Everyone in the kevesi and agnian sides already existed before aionios was a thing so only city people aka lost numbers can be descendents of past characters in aionios.
part of this insane lore is inspired from legend of zelda series
I’m pretty sure I saw riku in the ending of future connected.
This is incredibly pedantic and doesn’t affect the rest of the video in any way, but:
Melia and Tyrea don’t share any parents, and thus aren’t half-siblings (and aren’t related in anyway). Melia and Kallian are half-siblings, and Kallian and Tyrea are half-siblings, but Melia and Tyrea are not
Loved the video btw ☺️
Man, xenoblade is confusing but real good
I think Ino probably could’ve been mentioned as a poppi/tora relative, also also A is actually split off from Alpha by N’s attack on Alpha after killing Ghondor, the fact that A’s split off is due to N’s power and A being Alvis’s conscious formed of their memories of traveling with Shulk makes A Alpha’s moebius in both a thematic and literal sense, it also explains why A is so insistent on Matthew hearing N’s side of the story before doing something drastic because they both exist cause of the root desire of wanting to be with the person they hold dear, it’s a really cool parallel!
And don't get me started on Rex's inlaws
One thing I have heard and seems convincing, but isn't confirmed, is, that Haze actually never returned to her core, as Lora technically never died, as she is cryogenically frozen (we know from a Sidequest, that a cryogenically frozen Driver doesn't count as dead) and her heart lives on in Jin. This would mean, Amalthus only became her driver by implanting half her core into him, basically lobotomising her.
I think, Sena is (at least genetically) the daughter of Brighid & Aegaeon. If both her parents are blades, that would explain, why she is the most blade-like party member, having visible Aether lines, something both Mio and Taion lack.
I think mio is supposed to be have flesh eater traits, Taion blade eater, and sena regular blade
Oh, Aegaeon, never thought of that, because I’m pretty sure the common assumption was that either Zeke or Rex would be the surrogate father (if Mòrag and Brighid really were in lesbians with each other)
i would think the surrogate father be niall because he has the dark blue / black hair that sena's hair mainly consists of.@@jomaq9233
i think its good to mention that there are guldos that were humans modified by the blade brain cell things in morytha to extend their lifespan and rex finds her id close to a big guldo (infernal guldo) which uses the same model as the fog king in future connected. it's likely that the infernal guldo is her form in alrest.
I thought about mentioning the guldos in the Xenoblade 2 recap when talking about the core crystals origins
@@pasudraws4206 yeah i would add both but its still good
Love this video but one critique: the world of Xenoblalde 2 is ALSO a pocket dimension like 1. Evidence of this is the FR ending which shows the two pocket universes as glowing balls of light. If Xenosaga is now cannon, this also makes sense since earth or "Lost Jerusalem" seemingly disappeared but the end of FR and Xenosaga 3 have KOS-MOS floating down to earth well after the events of the Xenosaga trilogy. Earth came back after the two pocket dimensions interlinked, returning to the main universe and became a new Earth.
I always tought eunie is daughter of melia and ethel child of A
I don't think the part with A and Ethel checks out, since A only came to be after Aionios was formed already, so any potential kids wouldn't be part of the rebirth circle.
Unless a lot of crazy stuff happened like with Shania
I am sad that Patroka not get married because she is gone.
Dunbans kid maybe with Vanea is Maybe Ashera
I mean Sena's gotta be Brighid and Aegaeon.
She has the same hair as Brighid, she has a different core shape because she's born from 2 different blades, Aegaeon has dark skin which could be why Sena has darker skin than Brighid, idk something about her element being more electric related than fire because of her "Maximum Voltage" art ok idk where I was actually going with that lol.
I think the fiery hair is the most convincing part.
Maybe if her weapon were similar to one of the others it’d be more apparent.
But I’d also prefer if Brighid and Morag were in love
I personally theorized that Sena was born from thoughts of Morag and Brighid rather than of Morag and Brighid themselves. What do I mean by that?
In XC2, there is an NPC named Fadhail who gives the Merc Mission Longing For Morag. The description for the Merc Mission details how Fadhail wants Female Fire Blades to help him train to be strong and eventually awaken a Blade to emulate Morag and Brighid because he idolizes them.
So, we have a prospective Driver who constantly has Morag and Brighid in mind, loves to train, and has a tendency to cling to an idol and emulate their behavior. And what do we know about Sena? She is a Blade with traits that appear to be a mix of features from both Morag and Brighid, she loves to train, and she has a tendency to emulate other people. Looks like a classic case of a Blade inheriting their Driver’s traits and being influenced by their thoughts to me.
1:54 How are Riki and Riku related?? When did they say o imply they were Father and Son??
There’s a secret cutscene at Riku’s workshop in future redeemed, where Riku says, “Dadapon of Riku and Melly once traveling companions”, implying that his father is either Riki or Kino.
Then the Xenoblade 3 artbook which released in April confirmed that Riku was one of Riki’s sons.
That was interesting....
Ino is also a “descendant” from tataso
Nope, oosoo created Ino not soosoo.
lol bro so many ouroboros candidates are descended from the founders
wasn't Keno adopted and not a direct descendent of Riki?
Huh, well what do you know. A quick google search does say that. Whoops
You forgot Ino and poppi buster!
I love forgetting things
Iirc, I think it's implied that Nikol and Glimmer end up together. When I played FR towards the end it came off like they had feelings for one another
It would be cool if they got together, but I think it’s pretty much de confirmed since they both founded separate houses.
Dont know if he played it or not, but a recap video like for the other Xenoblade for Xenoblade Chronicles X would be neat
I also haven’t played that. Thought about looking into it to keep the Xenoblade vibes going though
I also haven’t played that. Thought about looking into it to keep the Xenoblade vibes going though
Yeah, I haven’t played it. I thought about it to keep the Xenoblade vibes going though
@@pasudraws4206 sad that most peoples who played the other Xenoblade always came down with "i haven’t played that one" and/or "i plan on maybe playing it someday" because it’s genuinely is a great game (just sad it’s stuck on the WiiU)
@@Zoroark_Master yeah. That’s probably why it’s so unknown, nintendo’s forgotten system
I do have to add that Kino isn't Riki and his wife Oka son. He was adopted! Kino looks up to his father and his arc in Future Connected is being himself and accepting his OWN way of being like his adopted father then. It's suspected he's Riku's ancestor or father, and while it does mean Riku isn't ! The funny thing is it's all about LEGACY more then Blood that makes a person share traits to someone, even if they have no bio blood to them! Kino may not be Riki son biologically! But he is still his son in spirit! Plus he does alot of awesome stuff on purpose compared to his father's accidental heroism (not that Riki is a fake hero, While the village chief DID pick Riki as Heropon largely cause he owes him LOL! He didn't JUST pick Riki without LEGIT reasoning! Seeing how competent Riki is and a pretty good All Arounder battle wise! Riki does have the skills to back up his boasts! What I love about Riki, especially as a Reminder of the game's "Three Party system" is he can be adjustable to any role you need him to be with bonuses even the SPECIALIST characters don't have! Like a Reyn (HP/Defense Tank) with Melia's Ether damage dealing! He just won't be better then said characters MAJORLY in their Role! Reyn's still beats him as he DOES have better block on his gunlance shields can make it to his HP levels Riki just reaches the max 9999 sooner And better Defense and Arts as a Safety net if he's at risk of dying makes Reyn the better DEFENSE TANK then Riki who has better ETHER defense!) and you do see this with Riku who does give GREAT support! Basically Dickson without well BEING DICKSON (as in giving all that support, but not doing what Dickson did in being "FUCKING MIANG" remember Dickson SHOOTS Shulk when the time comes like Miang did to Fei when she succeeded in becoming one with Elly again and took advantage of Fei not knowing to catch him off guard! Dickson was XB1 "Miang" if you mixed her with Citan as Dickson and Shulk relationship was akin to Fei and Citan)
Also it's better to use Fan and Haze to tell the difference between the two! Fan is the one you meet in XB2 main story! At this point she's reborn as Amalthus Blade, though he damaged her via taking half her Core Crystal that even JIN realizes the NORMAL form of rebirth for Blades isn't what is happening with Fan and worse, even taking out the fact she resonated with Amalthus meaning she isn't the "Little Haze" he knew back then! She's WAY worse because Amalthus essentially did the equalivant of "lobotomizing her" hence killing her was both to DEPRIVE Amalthus of her power (seeing how HE is the one responsible for Loras death, and Haze took on Loras appearance and as said, seeing her as a little sister! It likely made Jin hate Amalthus more then he already did at that point) But yeah! When we say Fan, best to say we're referring to who we see in XB2 main story! And when we say Haze, we're talking about Torna the Golden Country of her!
I like to believe that Noah is the son of Melia, since Mio is the daughter of Nia, Noah could probably be considered her son with the two paralleling each other
The parallel would be neat for sure!
I’m not sure if entia wings are a dominant trait or not, but I’d imagine he’d have wings if he were related though, even if they were little ones
@@pasudraws4206 I know Noah doesn't have wings, but I have another point that might show their connection. Remember in the first cutscenes when the two worlds were being merged, Noah was not frozen, but also Melia and Nia were also not frozen when it happened, so there must be a connection between him and Melia
@@0isthe1 trueeee, they also never explain why Noah and Mio could continue to be reborn even after reaching their 10 year limit. Zed just says they’re special, so maybe if they have some relation to the queens it’d line up. Granted glimmer didn’t exist beyond her homecoming, but maybe that’s because she got to live out a full life and didn’t reach her normal homecoming
I think rather than Melia, Noah is closer to Dunban.. Their arts and weapon of choice is really close enough.. And they look similar when Noah put his hair down as N.. Maybe he is the son of Dunban..
I am sad that no one can see Mythra and Rex son.
The missing part is how Noah is a descendant of Vandham from Uraya. It needs to be explained because Noah is from Keves, in other words from Bionis, not Alrest
Noah isn’t related to the Vandham from Xenoblade 2 in any way.
You forgot Noah's family tree, why? Because it's most likely that the Vandham surname comes from him not, Rex, why? Because there is a Vandham alive on XC1, or like it's know by the english fanbase, and was probably retcon in this last game, Coronel Vangarre is actually Coronel Vandham, and since Japan doesn't care about the english mistranslation of this kind of stuff... Yeah, the odd of Noah being either the son or Grandson of Coronel Vandham are higher then the surname Vandham coming from Mio's side.
P.S: If you don't believe me go change the settings to Japanese audip and look cutscenes with all the Vandhams and Coronel Vangarre in Japanese, you will see it's the same Vandham
Am i mistaken but inside the one of the bond line between sharla and dunban where dunban get married with someone?
Do you think Rex did them all at once?
O.k i honestly figured this out after playing xenoblade 3. I realized how insanely fcked up the family tree was in 3 so i did my best to ignore it so i can proudly say that 3 was indeed amazing and love was a good central topic in that games story. Now my ignored nightmare has come back to haunt me.....
There is a theory that Consul D(Dirk) is actually Rex and Mythra's kid due to him being blonde, Agnian, has the same facial hair as Rex, a bit unhinged and pompous like Mythra was pre-trauma, plus his projectile attack is the basically the same as Mythra's.
Would hate for her kid to be bad, I’d prefer them to be crys, but he’s a keves boy
I so love this theory. Not every hero's child must be a hero themselves. People are not that simple. I really hope that's true
@@Gabe_29 yeah but they could at least be a cool villain. Dirk is comically evil
@@pasudraws4206 I get your point. It does make sense. To me, at least not all villains must have a deep story, tragic past or surprisingly sound motives. There are people who are just plain evil. He's just the same as Mumkhar, but where Mumkhar had purpose in the story, Dirk is just there to "bad Moebius be bad."
I would rewrite the story to hint on him being Mythra's kid, and also delay Eunie's breakthrough so that D would go down when she surpasses her trauma.
@@pasudraws4206 Maybe Dirk in original world of Alrest is not that Evil like in Aionios.. He might be become like that because of constant never ending war.. And he's sure learned his lesson because of Joran at the end.. He might be become different type of person in the next installments
I am surprised that Shulk did not marry Melia as well because Rex got three wives and one of them are sisters.
I wish Tora procreated with Nene.
I kinda came here to figure out the family tree & I understand it a bit… but one thing is on my mind… is A & Matthew related or?
No, A is just Alvis, so there’s no way that she’s related to Matthew.
The only roundabout way they could be in the same family tree is: Matthew being the great great grandson of Rex, who married both Pyra and Mythra, who could be considered to be the sisters of Alvis.
Didn't tora have kids because ino was made by a family of long time artificial blade producers?
You forgot Poppi’s ‘sisters’ Lila and Rosa
What if you recapped God of War?
I haven’t played them, but could certainly do some research
Wasn't it confirmed recently that meyneth isnt galea
No, it was confirmed that Galea(Meyneth) wasn’t the inferno Guldo that you fight in the land of Morytha in xc2
Arent morag and nilal half siblings she calls him brother a few time morag is just either a bastard or mor ardain is a agnaic dynasty
They were raised like siblings and treat each other like siblings, but they’re biologically cousins
Riku is Kino's son. The color scheme makes it obvious.
I could go either way
one is green the other is blue, theres no corellation
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Not quite blue, kind of a turkis-greenish colour.
Also, it would be weird to name your child after yourself. It makes more sense (as it is tradition in a lot of countries) to name your son after your dad (ie the child's grandfather).
Can someone explain this
MIO IS NIA AND REXS DAUGHTER!!???
Yes, it’s not outright stated anywhere that Mio’s their daughter but it is HEAVILY implied.
im guessing that the original noah is probably a decendant of xeno 2 vandham in some way or maybe just a kid from the orphange who took it as a family name. direct child seems unlikely since xeno 2 vandham was urayn and noah doesnt posses those traits
Il y a un vandham dans chaque jeu xenofan ( colonel vangarre est une mauvaise traduction dans xc1 et vandham dans xcX donc c'est pas forcément celui du 2 )
rethinking on this one i remembered noah is a kevesi which means hes originally from the xb 1 universe so its likely thats hes completly unrelated to xb 2 vandham. vandamns just a constant throught the multiverse i supose
Why didn't you mention that mythra's son is dirk?
Lol, that's not even a thing, that's a theory with little evidence
The Giga Chad Beta Rex Vs. The Sigma Chad Faithful Shulk
yeh sorry guys nikol x glimmer cant happen because they need to be separate houses
Separate houses right not like they can't split the house's Remember there's house Vandham and house Doyle Whom our brother and sister, by the way So what i'm trying to get here is that glimmer and Nikol Might of had Two children Who split the houses I mean, in the main game. It states that they're very close the Two house's
Mythra's son is clearly Dirk smh
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I don't understand how or why people pronounce names from these games wrong when they all have voice acting and say the major character's names out loud. Miqol, Gadolt, Sorean, etc... is it willful ignorance or are you making a conscious decision to say them incorrectly?
Great question, it’s a combination of laziness, misremembering, and listening to the Japanese and English audio.
For example, in Japanese for Gadolt they pronounce the name with a more hard A and in English they use a soft A.
So whatever comes out of my mouth during a recording is what happens and unless it sounds wrong to my ears I won’t catch a mistake.
Sena is morag and brigids daughter
This is as true as 1*1 = 2
@@MoonMillenniummon why can’t she be their daughter you homophobic or something. Just look at them. They look like a lesbian couple especially in the cursed rex pic