Grading Ancient Coins - Tutorial

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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
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  • @ClassicalNumismatics
    @ClassicalNumismatics  Місяць тому +10

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    • @88anza88
      @88anza88 Місяць тому

      Please, tell me... where are you from? I LOVE YOUR ACCENT! but I cant figure out where its from? Sort of driving me crazy, i cant figure it out

  • @bryanoneal8067
    @bryanoneal8067 Місяць тому +8

    "Nobody needs an expert or a number to tell them what they like"

  • @docgrows1125
    @docgrows1125 Місяць тому +19

    I would love to just sit down with you for a day and go over my collection. Your knowledge is truly amazing.

    • @ClassicalNumismatics
      @ClassicalNumismatics  Місяць тому +10

      I'd happily sit down with you guys for a beer and talk about coins

    • @ElliotCarson
      @ElliotCarson Місяць тому +3

      @@ClassicalNumismaticsbeer and coins, my two great loves

    • @2000brettpaul
      @2000brettpaul Місяць тому +2

      @@ClassicalNumismatics do you live in London? I like beer.

    • @wollin20
      @wollin20 Місяць тому +2

      I have the exact same feeling. You're welcome to Rome !

  • @hridgreximp6194
    @hridgreximp6194 Місяць тому +16

    Personally, the quality of ancients never mattered much to me. Ancients are meant to be handled, and high quality surface conditions seems counterintuitive to that. Of course, once in a while, no one can reject a mint state tetradrachm or sestertius.

    • @emperorfancypants2512
      @emperorfancypants2512 Місяць тому

      It matters, you must handle them with care to preserve them for next generations. I dont understand people who cant take care of their own property

    • @financeexplainedgraphics
      @financeexplainedgraphics Місяць тому +1

      Interesting. I’m actually the opposite. I have to have it as EF or better or I won’t add it to the collection. Neat that there are different style of collectors and coins for all types

    • @emperorfancypants2512
      @emperorfancypants2512 Місяць тому +1

      I would recommend any collector to take care of their coins no matter the condition

  • @raymonddrake3675
    @raymonddrake3675 Місяць тому +2

    Thank you so much for this. Even with slabbed coins - sometimes I'm not really sure how they decide what to grade them. It doesn't always seem consistent.

  • @aureaphilos
    @aureaphilos 21 день тому +1

    ~34:50 (Felicitas reverse): One good way to assess weak strike vs circulation wear is that circulation wear impacts the higher points of the design, whereas a weak strike impacts (pun not intended, but liked!) the lowest points of the design. This Felicitas reverse is an excellent example of a weak strike; her robes show some crisp detail, and the left border is sharp, but the background details are ghostly. This was a great video!

  • @thestephensons4520
    @thestephensons4520 Місяць тому +7

    That French medieval coin looks incredible. Why is it that I always get the urge to collect another coin immediately after seeing it on your channel?

  •  Місяць тому +3

    I really enjoyed the videos and I learned a lot about numismatics, I am very grateful. I would really like to see a video someday about coins repainted with artificial patina, advantages and disadvantages, whether it is good or bad for coins, etc.

  • @rolandnyc4938
    @rolandnyc4938 Місяць тому +7

    Eye appeal has always meant a great deal to me.

    • @ClassicalNumismatics
      @ClassicalNumismatics  Місяць тому +4

      For me too, the Wow factor is crucial

    • @financeexplainedgraphics
      @financeexplainedgraphics Місяць тому +2

      Agreed! For me it’s got to be fairly centred, full and legible legends, with no distracting cracks or scratches. Though, that said, I have a few coins in my imperial collection that don’t meet this standard - because who can afford an EF+ Otho? 😂

    • @rolandnyc4938
      @rolandnyc4938 Місяць тому +2

      Exactly. Otho too! I don't want one I won't be happy with just to fill an empty flip. I learned that from this channel also. But with that missing Otho I can't be too picky.

    • @financeexplainedgraphics
      @financeexplainedgraphics Місяць тому +1

      @@rolandnyc4938 I have a Roman Imperial collection and I haven't even seen (in person or online) a single coin of any of the last 10 emperors. If I see an ugly Oreo cookie looking disk that I can identify as one of them, you know I will be buying it.

  • @financeexplainedgraphics
    @financeexplainedgraphics Місяць тому +2

    Great video! As someone who has collected coins for over twenty years and started in modern US coins and now is very involved in ancients, this video couldn’t be more spot on.
    I’d recommend to many collectors to familiarise themselves with the science of modern coin grading and this can help add understanding to the art of ancients grading.
    For me, the grading is where the collector shines (the history is where the numismatist shines and they aren’t mutually exclusive). Ancient grading is so nuanced and this video did a great job reducing that nuance down to the core concepts. Also provided me some good basic refreshers. Loved it!
    Also, not to flatter, but the guy on this channel has a strong eye and is nice and conservative in his ratings. I’ve seen people rate coins as MS because it’s chemically cleaned and shiny…. 🤦‍♂️

  • @AV-hl1pf
    @AV-hl1pf Місяць тому +2

    Love the background music. Reminds me of Age of Empires o Caesar like videogames...

  • @neptunesmarsh
    @neptunesmarsh Місяць тому +3

    As you mentioned w/ your denarius of Otho, some collectors (for budgetary reasons) have to overlook condition of some rare coins... I was able to pick up a denarius of Caligula, and it definitely saw a lot of circulation, and was affected by the soil in which it laid, but hey, it's a silver coin of Caligula, and I'm not a hedge fund manager!

    • @ClassicalNumismatics
      @ClassicalNumismatics  Місяць тому +3

      Congrats, a Caligula! Im still missing him in my collection.

    • @Caligulashorse1453
      @Caligulashorse1453 Місяць тому +1

      Same I picked up my Caligula (a as) for about 90 usd it was in very rough shape but you could tell it was Caligula.

  • @cameronmaclean9623
    @cameronmaclean9623 Місяць тому +4

    I've found the grades given to hammered coins by many of the grading companies to be incredibly inconsistent. In the area I focus on, I've even seen contemporary counterfeits graded as genuine pieces, coins assigned the wrong catalogue number, dates and even the wrong country.

    • @ClassicalNumismatics
      @ClassicalNumismatics  Місяць тому +2

      Thats far too common, sadly. Although grading companies hire some very skilled numismatists, I have the impression that the volume of submissions is taking a tool on the time dedicated to each coin, resulting in an unacceptable number of innacuracies.

  • @user-jw7cq6gu6o
    @user-jw7cq6gu6o Місяць тому +3

    Highly enjoyable presentation. I appreciate the way you slowly move the coin in the hand, so the viewer can see it from slightly different angles. As a collector of ancient and medieval coins for over 40 years I agree with everything you say. One thing I might add is the tendency to over grade (for example describe a coin that is really VF as EF) is more pronounced the rarer the coin is. I fully understand that a dealer is in business, and there is naturally a need to make enough profit to survive, but to avoid buyer's remorse one should look at a rare coin's images very, very carefully and come up with your own grade. Better yet if you can physically visit a dealer or auction house and view the coin directly. There is a saying 'wonderful coin to see in the hand' that applies especially to the hand struck ancients. Coins are a 3D object, so are always going to be different to a 2D image when seen in the hand.

    • @ClassicalNumismatics
      @ClassicalNumismatics  Місяць тому +1

      Thats true. Particularly the case with more expensive coins, it is paramount that a collector tries going to museums and auction houses and get accquainted to the average appearance, weight, and overall "feel" of a coin.
      In fact, Id say thats applicable to every collector, also to those that just like collecting normal, affordable coins.

  • @mattl3729
    @mattl3729 Місяць тому +2

    I agree grades aren't particularly meaningful when it comes to ancients- I never even note them when reading a description. For me as well, the image tells me what I need to know and just comparing other specimens helps put anything into context when it comes to values. That all being said, this was an interesting video- I had always wondered what the grades meant. Thanks!

    • @ClassicalNumismatics
      @ClassicalNumismatics  Місяць тому +2

      Im seeing more and more dealers not even worrying about putting the grade on their listings, and just doing a written description of each coin, and letting the photos/videos do the selling for them. I think thats the way to go.

  • @briank7936
    @briank7936 Місяць тому +3

    Grading is a nice guide but in the end, its all about what your eye likes and wallet can handle. I have seen coins graded and in my novice opinion be spot on, too high or too low. Just need to look at alot of coins and train yourself.

    • @ClassicalNumismatics
      @ClassicalNumismatics  Місяць тому +2

      Thats good advice. The best way to get good at coins is to look at lots of coins.

  • @allanwestphall8108
    @allanwestphall8108 Місяць тому +4

    Extremely useful and informative video - thanks for sharing with us!

    • @ClassicalNumismatics
      @ClassicalNumismatics  Місяць тому +2

      Thanks for the kind words. Im here to help the numismatic community! :)

    • @allanwestphall8108
      @allanwestphall8108 Місяць тому +1

      @@ClassicalNumismatics Now I have responsibility for starting a new coin auction, I use your excellent videos as intros to these varied subjects - it would be good to see more on ancient Indian coinage!

  • @isabelcrb
    @isabelcrb 16 днів тому +3

    People should care less about grades, and trust their eyes and sense of whats beautiful

  • @user-wx3lc2sn6i
    @user-wx3lc2sn6i Місяць тому +2

    Brilliant thanks Leo👍🙂

  • @fificrossnails
    @fificrossnails Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for taking the time to explain this, it’s always been a little confusing to me, as grading seems to be quite inconsistent sometimes, and for ancient coins it is pretty subjective. I just buy whatever I like the look of, but within my budget…especially if it’s a coin of Hadrian😊

    • @ClassicalNumismatics
      @ClassicalNumismatics  Місяць тому +2

      Thats the way to go! Do your research, use your eyes and pick what you like the best :)

  • @Kohnbread19
    @Kohnbread19 Місяць тому +2

    if you ever end up local to me we must certainly meet up to discuss coins

  • @nazarnovitsky9868
    @nazarnovitsky9868 Місяць тому +2

    Thank You very much for such informative videos ! 😊 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @brunoovejero1073
    @brunoovejero1073 Місяць тому +2

    Great video as always

  • @yaroslavprotsenko4116
    @yaroslavprotsenko4116 Місяць тому +2

    I love watching your channel

  • @christopherevans2445
    @christopherevans2445 Місяць тому +3

    Thanks for the vid

  • @danielralston7182
    @danielralston7182 Місяць тому +2

    Another Excellent Video! Thank you.

  • @pauldockery1747
    @pauldockery1747 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you

  • @johnlee4897
    @johnlee4897 Місяць тому +1

    I've mentioned it before. Only my two gold solidi have been sent for grading to authenticate them as I'd bought from from a small local coin dealer many years ago. Just needed that piece of mind considering how many fakes are floating around.

    • @ClassicalNumismatics
      @ClassicalNumismatics  Місяць тому +1

      If it makes you feel more comfortable with your collection and the second opinion is valuable for you, its completely understandable. Are you convinced they are good now? :)

  • @danphelps3583
    @danphelps3583 Місяць тому +3

    I notice you say “die crack” when the defect seems to be in the coin’s flan/planchet, not the die. I thought these were called “flan cracks”. To me, a die crack is when the iron die that struck the coin is damaged. Am I wrong, or are the terms interchangeably used?
    I have a sestertius of Maximimus Thrax that has an offset going diagonally across the coin that looks like the die was almost ready to break in two.

  • @Gnosarchist
    @Gnosarchist Місяць тому +3

    Is this background music from Total War? LOL

  • @AN-fu5uo
    @AN-fu5uo 10 днів тому +1

    Excellent video! I believe that the opinion of a grading service is no more qualified in telling me how much I should appreciate the piece than my own sensibilities for any coin up until the 1800s, or in some cases even later on. I am fond of HRE Taler and particularly the earlier mints (say anything before Joseph I) are just as unique and individual as its more ancient predecessors.

    • @ClassicalNumismatics
      @ClassicalNumismatics  10 днів тому +2

      Absolutely. Grading services are basically a grade in a speculating machine that pushes coin prices up.

    • @AN-fu5uo
      @AN-fu5uo 10 днів тому +1

      @ClassicalNumismatics yes, quite similar in nature to financial analysts providing stock price targets... I suppose people love the fake aura of "certainty" or perhaps being told what to think haha your videos are very informative and I really appreciate them!

    • @AN-fu5uo
      @AN-fu5uo 10 днів тому +1

      @@ClassicalNumismatics is it perhaps possible to contact you via email?

    • @ClassicalNumismatics
      @ClassicalNumismatics  9 днів тому +1

      I've removed my email due to the torrent of unsolicited messages. If you have instagram, you can contact me there: classical_numismatics

    • @AN-fu5uo
      @AN-fu5uo 9 днів тому +1

      @ClassicalNumismatics thanks!

  • @briancisco1176
    @briancisco1176 Місяць тому +2

    Just curious, but have any ancient coin dies survived to the present day?

  • @matttroughton
    @matttroughton Місяць тому +1

    That quadrans is amazing I recently got the same coin at auction just not that one and can see clearly between the one featured and the dies on mine. Although does anyone know what the DES IT means on the legend haven't had much luck in sear or online translating this.
    Thanks for the video.

    • @ClassicalNumismatics
      @ClassicalNumismatics  Місяць тому +3

      Its the last part of the "COS DES IT" title, meaning "CONSUL DESIGNATIO ITERUM". "Designated Consul for the Second Time". Meaning Claudius by that time already served as Consul once, and had a second consulship lined up for the next year.

  • @UKDark_Mark
    @UKDark_Mark Місяць тому

    This video is excellent. Thank you very much! I would value your opinion on the NGC Ancients grading system………

    • @ClassicalNumismatics
      @ClassicalNumismatics  Місяць тому +2

      I have another video called "Should you slab your ancient coins?" check it out.
      Basically, no. Im very anti-slabbing. I think in its current shape, they offer terrible value for money

    • @UKDark_Mark
      @UKDark_Mark Місяць тому

      @@ClassicalNumismatics thank you!

  • @LyVanToan-vn2tq
    @LyVanToan-vn2tq Місяць тому +1

    Hello 🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @NinoSunLiqrx
    @NinoSunLiqrx Місяць тому +1

    is minting an ancient coin a thing?

  • @LongLivedCoins
    @LongLivedCoins Місяць тому +2

    🍯🐝🌻

  • @sebastianmaharg
    @sebastianmaharg Місяць тому

    Is that a sestertius of Gallienus at 10:29? Leo, please lable featured coins with some text! Thanks :)

    • @ClassicalNumismatics
      @ClassicalNumismatics  Місяць тому +1

      Yes it is. Thats not the main focus of the video, its just some coins for background footage :)

    • @sebastianmaharg
      @sebastianmaharg Місяць тому

      @@ClassicalNumismatics not the main focus, granted, but it's helpful/educational nonetheless.

  • @Gamerdude497
    @Gamerdude497 Місяць тому

    The coin at 32:10 is actually not an Islamic coin. It's a coin minted during the Sasanian Empire which was Zoroastrian

    • @ClassicalNumismatics
      @ClassicalNumismatics  Місяць тому +3

      Please, look into the "Arab governors of Tabaristan". They were an islamic state that issued silver drachmae immitating sassanian coins. This piece weights half as much as a Sassanian coin.