Miller 220 vs ESAB 205 - Review and comparison of the hottest AC TIG welders!
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- The only true multi-process units worth talking about are the Miller Mulitmatic 220 907757 and the ESAB Rebel 205 0558102553. They both can MIG, Stick, and TIG weld out of the box! **Including AC TIG aluminum!
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ESAB Rebel 205:
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These units have both been out for about 4 years now! We sell and support them both. We are here to give honest feedback and point out the differences of each.
1. We sell more of the Miller 220
2. Fewer issues/warranty or other with the Miller 220
3. TIG adjustments are more advanced on the Rebel 205
4. Rebel 205 more rugged and has inside light by wire
5. Miller is a tad more expensive (currently a Miller rebate makes it about the same)
**If you love Miller and have had a good experience get the Miller! If you have no opinion and like the rugged no rules Rebel go for it. We hope this video answered your questions! If you have other questions leave them in the comments and we will get back with you!
I have a Rebel 205, and absolutely love it. Granted i only use if for welding 16-22 gauge in automotive rust repair. But it has never let me down.
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@9:37 “ I’ve got nothing good to say about both.” Lol
i CAUGHT THAT TOO
😂 i just caught that
I’ve had the 205 for almost five years now and no problems. I actually like the 180 gun. It’s reliable and light. It welds really nicely. The only thing I would wish for is a 235 version of this. There are times when I’d like a bit more power. But I don’t want two welders.
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When a welding supply says the esab 205 comes back with issues more, that’s pretty bad because I’d say realistically the miller 220 out sales the 205 by more than double. And that’s because they’re less know and don’t have the long reputation that miller has. Not to say they can’t make a better machine than a miller, but that’s up for debate. But a big factor for me is, they all run out of warranty at some point so which one do I wanna be stuck with is the big question
Very well spoken, fair and ballenced! I still am looking to see the 205 run on the renegade volt Battery pack!
I bought an Esab 205 off of Bakers gas and the only thing I've done so far is Mig but I absolutely love it. I welded for years on a Lincoln 255 and while I really liked that welder I can tell you this, while lighter duty, welds every bit as nice if not nicer. I have not noticed anything bad about the Tweco gun so I'm not sure what Andrew we referring to there. Luckily when I purchased there was a $300 rebate and a nice sentinel helmet included (towards the end of the year).
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i think he is talking about the mig gun 250 instead of the 180, because the 250 can do a better job than the mig gun 180.but you have to buy it separeate. i own a 205 for almost an year, trying to learn ac tig aluminum...
For me I went Miller. The menus just seemed more intuitive (personal preference) and the ability to switch between mig and tig by just tapping the pedal or trigger is a huge plus for how I use it. Tig wise, I do wish you could set more pulse parameters. If somehow the next generation could do 6010 that would also be a nice plus (though for the things I do 6011 is suitable and it runs it well).
Wish the Rebel had AC pulse TIG.
Thanks for the review. Unfortunately, neither of these welders are sold in Australia.
The unimig 230 is much more powerful for a much cheaper price be glad you aren't being overcharged like the models sold in the usa
What other mig guns can you run on the esab that can compare to the miller?
9:35" I've got nothing good to say about both" hmmm... that about sums it up. lol.
On a serious note, I'm really leaning towards Red and Blue only because there's not a ton of information on ESAB, reviews, personal experiences and longevity.
at 5:11 you state you can't adjust the ac balance on the miller this is false it can be adjusted 60 to 80%
Yes, they both have a fairly limited range of balance adjustment. ESAB 60-90%, Miller 60-80%. For frequency ESAB 25-400Hz, Miller 60-150Hz. Take it for what its worth whether the extremes on those ranges are required.
Check carefully what you said at 9:37, may want to edit that.
Lol, I thought that was off.
Or we can just assume he meant to say nothing bad since he was sharing info on their versatility
can i use my own tig rig with the rebel 205 ? i have a hybrid
You can add a different TIG torch like a CK Worldwide or something you may need an adapter
What 25’ mig gun would you recommend upgrading to on the Esab?
Spraymaster bakersgas.com/collections/all/products/spraymaster250miggun-12ft3-5m-1023-1140 this one is 15 feet
Does the smart mig work with flux core ?? On wither one of the smart features?
I have the Esab, it does flux core just fine.
Yes.
Hows the stick welding on the 220?
In my amateur opinion, pretty good. I’ve mainly run 6011 and 7018 with some 6013. 6010 isn’t recommended.
@@JeffinTD thanks. Does the manual say no 6010? That's a stick I want to use, this might be a deal breaker
@@ELECTRICEYE1776 I think somewhere in the literature it said 6010 was not recommended. Apparently most multi process inverters don’t run high enough voltage.
The good news is Baker’s Gas did a video and apparently 2024 version will now run 6010. Bad news is it’s a change in hardware, so owners of the previous version can’t upgrade.
If you buy one I’d make sure you are getting the new one (apparently has a QR code on the home screen, and apparently on the label inside the door for the mig wire.
@@JeffinTD Thanks, I remember that video now, 2024 model or nothing, appreciate the info.
@@ELECTRICEYE1776 Yeah. I sure hope Miller offers an upgrade kit. Realistically 6010 will work for whatever I might do, but I suspect a lot of schools buy these, as do people who want to be professional welders and want to practice at home- and 6010 is of course widely used in industry.