Thanks to you preacher i found a guild for bfa and we are raiding. Everyone is super chill and laid back and we raid only 1 day a week for about 3 hours or so. Our first raid night we killed 4 bosses and second week made it to zul. (This is on nornal) just wanted to thank you for finally making me get into a guild and get out of the pug world
About half way through Antorus I manned up and joined a raiding guild after not having done organised raiding since Classic. Being an otherwise LFR noob, but following the advices laid out from your channel, particularly the guides on getting people raiding, I was one of their top DPS (frost DK), but as a casual guild who only does 3 hours on a Saturday night per week, we only made it upto heroic coven. Recently I was promoted to officer in the guild as I often share my advice and knowledge, and try to point as many people to your content. We are currently 5 bosses in on Normal and looking to progress this Saturday. Love your content, Preach !
I'm living the casual life, cleared hc and 1/8m but honestly I barely have to log in. 365 equipped, farmed pots/flasks food before raiding week came and now I just do the expedition cap, 3-4 high m+, clear hc, do 1-2 bosses on mythic and enjoy working 12 hours a day. It's great. I miss my old guildies for that reason but can't join decent guilds when you finish from work at 20:15 st.
My rading boils down to clearing the first wing on Raidfinder once. I did a pug mythic plus and we had a fantastic wearbear tank. I talked to him and he asked me if I wanted to DPS raidfinder. I said sure why not. On Vek someone said: "Bounce the god damn orbs or we are wiping from now till tomorrow". Now being the good preach fan I am I imidiately did it as the only one (Arms). It tried to bounce on my new tank buddy and I saved him. from it. He whispered me mid fight: "TY!". That was magical, seeing what Preach did in legion on his warlock is true. Have a good one Preach
Glad you're having fun man. I'm loving BFA too, not quite the top end but I don't need to be great to have a whale of time. Slowly progressing through heroic with my guild, enjoying every minute of it
I skip all WQs except: - Kill a single named mob - Bonus 100/250 rep - Shell Game - Azurite "Woonz" The rest are not worth the time. Also skip anything you are exalted with. Do yourself a favor and try it this way for a bit, see if its more tolerable.
Azerite mining is easy enough if you use the double mine tactic (Just click the azerite again shortly before the cast finishes and it'll cast again, giving you double progress)
This is the first time I've encountered a video that details how high end guilds do stuff. I'm always curious about this type of thing so thanks for that.
This is a very informative video. very well done. Gotta be honest though, I'm disappointed that there hasn't been a video covering the Q and A, or the live streamed mythic WF race. I, and many others, genuinely appreciate your content and would like to hear your take and commentary on events of this magnitude.
BTW Preach, the item level tracker for personal loot is a character specific (Spec specific) record, nothing to do with items in bags. Just to save you a few slots in the future :D
Im playing an Armswarrior, after the first 2 Weeks im on 367 Ilvl, but im on a low pop server so im just pugging hc raids and im 7/8 hc now :) really happy about that !
Hey Preach, thanks for the awesome content! I'm in a heroic raid team (currently) and we just downed Zekvoz last night! Our biggest struggle was... wait for it.. EYE BEAM!
Hey Preach, I noticed you cast Ebonbolt regularly without using it for glacial spike. Could you explain the advantage of that? I thought ebonbolt was to be saved for when glacial spike is ready and you dont have brain freeze proc
Currently, my group is having a lot of problems having a consistent list of raiders compared to Antorus and lately, it was due to the storm on the East Coast but in two weeks, we did manage to finish 6 of 8 this week and yes, we're planning to do Heroic Progression. We got stuck on Vectis but we managed it, Fetid never was a problem. Zek'voz was surprisingly fun and clean after a wipe (with the voidball). Zul? A lot of coordination across 9 pulls but it always got better. Can't wait to see Mythrax and G'huun (possibly this week). My only wish is to get the kill on G'huun before October 9th (last LFR wing).
I’ve had a really shit time. I’m a 353 blood DK, and I’m in a guild that I got recruited into 2 weeks before BFA started. I leveled the DK. Leveled blood in opening of BFA and have been tanking ever since. What I’ve learned is that our guild is saturated with DKs, they only bring 2 for raids at most, (their into mythic now) and due to my work schedule. I’m a registered nurse. I work 12 hrs a day on a 3-1-3 rotation. I can’t make a consistent raid schedule, or make it on time. Due to that, I’m basically 3 weeks behind everyone and can’t seem to catch up. Neck level of 21. My issue is, no one in the guild wants to run with a “new” Dk who doesn’t have a 600 raider io score, nor can I find anyone who can seem to run an M+ greater than a 3 in group finder. I’ve had some really shit luck with loot drops since BFA opened. I have main tanked one normal Uldir full clear so that’s good, but as far as further progression, I don’t know what to do. Im effectively solo in a guild, it blows. I’ve been playing since patch 1.9 so I’m not new, I just took a few years off after cata... Anyway. I’m frustrated because no one wants to run with me in guild, I’m frustrated because no one wants to arena with an UH/Frost Dk and I’m frustrated because I can’t seem to find a decent group to run M+ with to push my key higher than a 3, and I’m frustrated because due to my limited time, Azerite gear almost forces me to follow one spec entirely because changing traits has become rediculius expensive. If anyone wants to run with a fairly solid DK tank, hit me up, I want to do some consistent 10s.
I remember the good old days when gearing up outside of raids was a process you could actually finish. Sure, there wasn't all that much to do when you weren't raiding, but turning everything into an endless grind isn't necessarily enjoyable content either. The only fun new thing is mythic+, everything else is just a mindless boring grind.
I have been in semi-hardcore raiding guilds with really nice progression that raids 3 days a week and they did not require you to have alts to raid. I'm talking about world 200ish or better rank 3 day raiding guilds that raid 3 times a week. 200ish or higher is very respectable and usually means you will clear all content, good team work and good strategy and leadership. A lot of these guilds have a hardcore mindset, like getting high rank, doing well on logs knowing their class in and out but also have real life or maybe a family. I'm retired from WoW but my last two guilds were 3-days a week raiding guilds that did not require you to have extra alts. One guild ranked 136th and other was 249th.
My guild is up to Zul HC now, took a long time over Vectis (mainly down to group size) and a little while on Zekvos. Be interesting to see how long the last 3 take us, I'm expecting to find mythrax pretty hard and hoping ghuun is more fun than normal which I found pretty boring as a lock. Few of us pugged mythic taloc and I would agree it's pretty easy in terms of mechanics.
i had a group in mop that raided 3 days a week. i like to complete everything but i know i was alone in that. granted we weren't a proper heroic guild at the time. we decided to go from 2 days to 3 days to help with progression and we almost beat all of throne of thunder on heroic (we got to twins) before siege came out. then the group fell apart just before we killed garry normal.
3 days / week? #topkek I remember in vanilla during AQ40 and Naxx, raiding 6 days / week during progress sometimes going for 6 hour raids. When I think about it now I cringe, but back then It was my highest honor being in a guild that was #14 in the world. Good times.
Raiding in a casu raiding guild twice a week. Cleares 2x normal and 3 heroic so far. Iam enjoing dpsing on the dh a lot right now. Only thing thats anoying me is our 2 affliction warlocks bragging about the dps meters the entire time
I also play a Havoc DH in a really casual guild. I actually only joined a casual guild because my friend who has never played an MMO before decided he would join for BFA. Best part is he is typically top 3 dps in our raids and messes up less than most of the people that say they have been playing for years. We are currently only 5/8 normal with 2/8 heroic.
Preach, mage question. I noticed you sometimes along the vídeo used GS without the BF proc, even when you had it. Why is that? Im playing mage too, so it got me curious if it was a special condition moment or a simple oversight.
Yo preach quick question u guys gonna bring back the workshop? i know you did put out a video a while ago if people where intrested and i was whondering how was that feedback was it a yay or nay ??
I'm one of the few Prot Warriors left in the world. My guild is currently 3/8H and our issue has been people killing others with Eye beam on Zek'voz, oddly enough. We're way more casual where most people just show up to raid, do some lower level mythics, wq, some IEs and thats it. We're looking toward mythic but I have to whip my group into shape first. They need a lot of work on the awareness side and some coaching with regards to putting in some extra effort to get that higher ilvl benefit. I'm confident we'll get there.
So my guild is pretty casual but we usually get heroic down in a reasonably quick time. We were running into some problems with Mythraxx normal because that fight just confused the more derpy people in my raid guild, so we jumped to heroic and are 3/8 in that with some sub 20% pulls on Zek'voz while only being 6/8 N. Its a really odd place for us and very amusing at the same time. Oh yeah you also asked about Vectis. We had a hell of a time on that boss because we are on the smaller side but with the changed to Omega Vector lasting longer we were able to kill it easily
Have to agree that these elongated execute phases bring a lot of tension with them, keeping the adrenaline pumping. The feeling of "It's not over yet" is what makes a first kill - once he pops - great.
Went from a Mythic Guild in Legion to a Heroic focused one in BFA and found Vectis Heroic super strange. The fight really doesn't seem that hard but composition matters so much even at a heroic level. Crazy how certain healers especially just can't keep up with that fight due to their class and off healing dps are becoming popular.
Preach, my guild is stuck on zul (yeah, in normal) and we keep wiping in p2, because we cant kill him before the blood spreads over the entire platform. Any tips for keeping it more contained?
Im in a Heroic guild and the big problem we have is too much "good" melee dps. wasn't really a problem will we got to heroic mythrax.... rerolling rdps right now lol going to be a problem most likely in the next tiers. As always thanks for the video!.
The issue we've had on heroic level? Bad and SUPER casual players that perform ok(average but not great). We do sit the bad players on heroic and later normal bosses, most of them at least. But they wanted to do another normal run after we had finished normal. It was week 2 and only our RL that had alts was saved 7/8N so we could finish normal progress without having to save someone else to the raid. We did the week 2 normal as the average players also wanted it. So here I am, 8/8N, 2/8H and 34% on Zek'Voz, with only one night of heroic progress in, feeling we could've done more progress...I'm wondering if I should go back to my Mythic team now they are 1/8M and normal and heroic cleared.
Preach what's the name of your balance druid because I want to check your parses man. I swapped to my main to a druid and I feel slightly weaker than my main of 7 years (blood/frost DK)
wrote this too early...you said that the parses are not public....thanks for sharing your experience man, is like catnip to us that never made it to that highend raiding
My raidings been very unlucky this time around. I can't seem to find a good guild which raids when I have time. Suppose I'll be sitting BFA out for a bit :/
One thing i will agree on is that bosses defiately wear you down like our 1% wipe on zekvoz normal took 10.5 minutes and our healers struggle for mana towards the halfway point which is a bit wierd flipping the tables like that
I chose to level up my Frost Mage after I had my Shadow Priest up, re-doing every rep with no catch up mechanic took so much time and I'm almost to where I was with my Shadow Priest. Hopefully I don't choose to re-roll again anytime soon.
In a 2day mythic guild atm, killed Taloc and Mother on our first set of pulls on Sunday because we spent one of our nights on heroic and mythic+ Then decided we might as well farm some more m+ before we tackle Zekvoz next reset. Spent the rest of my time just doing m+, probably did 25 to 30 m+8 to m+12 keys this week because that's the content I enjoy. Completely forgot to do island expeditions because I'd rather hang myself, and I am not lagging behind in neck level either (85% into 23 right now)
I’m enjoying the raid so far. Havnt cleared heroic yet, upto Zul. Have done mythic Taloc which was good. Only thing is there are Afew fights I feel take to long.
My guild of years died before BFA and the new guild I joined was super toxic so I left right before the raid opened. I somehow managed to pug my way to heroic G'huun 2nd week and got AOTC but knowing that I'm not going into mythic I find it hard to find a reason to keep raiding. I've raided since MC and this is the first expansion where I think I'm going to end up being casual during and it's weird. I don't want to join a guild without a friend at least but they're all scattered after my last guild died. I think I'm just done raiding for good to be honest. I'll miss pushing though.
Guild is aiming for mythic but it doesn’t feel right for me anymore Basically smsshed normal did first 3 heroic then sat people and they got to zul and then muthic week rolled around ignored normal sat people at first 3 bosses then brought in people for mythic taloc and I don’t know it just feels strange least they didn’t sit anyone until five bosses in this week but it might just be me feeling weird and odd about it
I’m in a casual Mythic raid guild. World 550 or so. We take raiding seriously but aren’t doing the whole required alts thing. It’s been fun, certainly the highlight of bfa atm. We are 1/8 and pushing to be 3/8 by tonights raid. Bfa, in terms of raiding is fine, it’s just everything else is so lackluster feeling. Loving Uldir tho, really good raid.
My guild experienced a bug on Vectis where even with proper positioning and movement two omega vectors were going on one person, then both would jump to another and kill people off one by one.
Im like the only mage in our raid team, and we have like 36 people logging on raid night. We always ask people who want to sit out for certain bosses. And I got stuck not slowed to jump out on any fights as we are also soo melee heavy atm. And being melee heavy seems to bring a lot of problems on many bosses. So we really need more ranged. So far we cleared 5-8 HC with 30man and been enjoying some off the fights more then others.
Im in a German Guild that raids semi hardcore on 2 nights. We Are at 2/8M currently and I have mixed feelings about the raid. Mother is a complete design failure IMO, similar to Spine of Deathwing. 3/4 of the raid just dont do anything for the majority of the fight. The rest I found quite decent but nothing that blew my socks off. I am especially stressed by the high prices of pots on our Server, as well as the constant buffs/nerfs for the azerite traits. Need to change my whole setup for the third time now and practice bosses again. My biggest plus in BFA is the M+ content. I enjoy basically all dungeons and it is beautifully designed.
Okay glad I'm not the only one wondering.... I mean i get casting a frostbolt and then blasting it and a quick ice lance , in hopes the frostbolt will proc another one... but he just sits there for multiple casts almost like he's ignoring it Is there a reason for this??
because youre playing with glacial spike and ebonbolt. due to playing with ebonbolt you lose a 20% chance to get another brainfreeze proc and the damage you do with the shattered glacial is way more then doing the usual flurry + icelance stuff. if you have less than 3 icicles and a brainfreeze proc you use it if you have 3 or more icicles and get a brainfreeze proc you hold onto it i hope you understood my explanation ^^
Frost mage plays very counter intuitive. You hold flurry procs for glacial spike unless you're at 1-3 icicles and feel like gambling on getting another proc, or you cast ebonbolt. You literally never cast ebon bolt except for a flurry proc for your glacial spike. It is counter intuitive because unlike most specs that want to keep things rolling on CD, mage wants to keep them off CD for juicy glacial spikes. That's it. Edit: I also just read the comment above. And yes.
this is inaccurate, Not shattering your ebonbolt is a dps loss, one of the main ones alot of frost mages make. Always shatter your ebonbolt dont be a lazy degenerate and ebonbolt to proc for your glacial spike. Learn the right rotation.
the literal best setup is a brain freeze proc on your 4th frostbolt cast into ebonbolt - flurry (if you do it fast you still get the proc from ebon) icelance - glacial - flurry - icelance
I hold the #2 spot on heroic vectis on US Proudmoore as a TV frost mage so I'm happy about that. I'm beating all the arcane and GS mages so it feels good :)
Vectis wasn't a problem for small raid after they fixed vector (longer debuff time for smaller groups = less stacks). Mythrax is the PITA. Same number of mind flayers regardless of group size. 15 people was a decent sweet spot in Legion...that's gone now, need at least 20. Don't know why Blizz say raids scale for 10-30 people and then just not give a crap about small groups.
Just as you said "small indie company" I had a swarm of fishes (Razerhaw Chompers) in Nazmir suddenly float on to land, then teleporting under the floor and attacking me from under the floor where I couldnt even target them.
I've been loving in it. Zek'voz is probably one of my favorite fights ever. Heroic progression is going a little slow, but we will get through it. Slapped the dog on second pull, but vectis is killing us lol.
My guild raids one night a week, small guild of 14 players. We couldn't get past vectis until the raid size nerf the following week and we one shot it.. Now we're stuck at Zul because we don't have any priests..
Preach, can I still get in on the raiding experience at a mid level? I'm a big fan of your videos especially Drama Time and the overarching theme on them that keeps coming up is raiding. But between your team being really high level, Drama Time typically being old stories, and the way guilds are homogenized in games is seems like real raiding guilds don't exist outside of Mythic. I play a Panda Monk, doing world content as Brewmaster and dungeons/LFR as Mistweaver. I'm 334 on both but slowly making my way up. I really want to experience organized raiding. LFR is miserable: there's no team work of camaraderie and frankly its just a matter of retrying until you clear by luck. I want to have a spot on a team, and have people to bant with and stuff. But I don't know if there are guilds out there for mediocre players like me. I'm not great at WoW, or games in general, but I try my best. What do you think?
This was the first time me giving a serious try to raid since cata and join a raid guild and while heroic raids and mythic+ are fun and good content, absolute everything else feels like the only purpose is to make me keep play and grind as long as possible and do mundane tasks, like I had to at a minimum wage job. It's not a challenge, it's not rewarding. Knowing I have to do this for weeks and months every single day and expeditions every week to keep my numbers appropiate for the raids is an insult to the player and not worth my time.
Glad you're enjoying the hardcore sode of things. Definitely not been enjoying the channel as much since WoD. Do you but I truly hope content of thebold calibre becomes a thing again. If not, at least you're having fun. Grayz
It's not just the high end that has a big time investment, but Mythic does seem to require too much commitment for me. I raided 5 nights a week back in WoTLK - Heroic hard-modes, split runs, you name it. Yes, there were great first kills, moments of perfect coordination and some screams at server firsts. Ulduar remains the highlight of my raiding experience. Downing The Lich King Heroic was great and all, but nothing so far has topped the hard-modes of Ulduar. I came back to try some 10 man heroic raiding in Cata with a few of the people who survived farming TLK long after it was challenging and the long wait for the new expansion, but Dragon Soul killed my soul. I got my legendary rogue daggers, but farming that raid took it's toll. I never went back to heroic 25, or even heroic 10 and I've never set foot in Mythic (which looks to me a lot like the old 25 Heroic hard-modes). So last week, I did LFR Uldir expecting disappointment, zero challenge and lots of raging in the chat. However, I was pleasantly surprised. There were a few wipes as people learned the fights, but it was just hard enough (with the crappy gear us casuals have) and still gave something of an experience of raiding. I'll stick with LFR. I'd love to do Normal (or even heroic) if any of my friends still played, but in a pug LFR is as far as I want to go this early in an expansion.I actually think Blizzard has done a good job of making raid content accessible over the years, so there is a mode that will suit any level of time investment (I'm not saying skill, because there are plenty of skilled players with 340 gear and not enough time). ;-)
My raiding has been.. not. I've turned into a filthy casual thanks to my schedule. I do m+, heroic raids when I can join the guild run (4/8 heroic, yay -.-) and whatever content there is in BFA to gear up not tied to raid times. My guild, however, got 2/8 on mythic which kinda makes me proud since they decided to go all out. Strange going from rushing mythic in Legion to what it is now. But, I'm still having fun, my way, probably the wrong way - but my way. /Beo
Heroic Vectis is a fucking nightmare in my guild. Not because we're bad or anything, I'm not saying we're method either but we manage. Dps are mostly melee, we have like 8 melee dps and 2 ranged, it's fucking nuts... We're stuck hard on this one. Zekvoz was hard too but fortuntately we got it on last pull of the night hehe
Was able to join my guild only on mythrax on normal, and my job was to kick players from portals. Im frost mage, so part of fingers of trost was wasted, and then people were not pleased with my dps. I want more solo content
he says warrior with 21 neck and 352.......like "oh that is exactly where my main is at" then he womp womps.......thanks preach nice to know i am useless and a womp womp ;)
We wiped more times than I'd care to admit to Heroic Zek'Voz, until we kicked the one guy who kept killing people with Eye Beam. We then proceeded to kill the boss within five pulls. Personal responsibility matters, guys. Do your job.
Only tanked 6/8 normal went in pretty blind was fun but we had half group of pugs mythrax was too much for people we had a undergeard offtank also. Gonna look for a heroic guild that runs weekends or find a mythic guild where i can tank alt runs. I dont care about loot just wanna see things.
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Thanks to you preacher i found a guild for bfa and we are raiding. Everyone is super chill and laid back and we raid only 1 day a week for about 3 hours or so. Our first raid night we killed 4 bosses and second week made it to zul. (This is on nornal) just wanted to thank you for finally making me get into a guild and get out of the pug world
That frozen orb killed me on the inside. R.I.P
Yeah, High end of raiding.
Frozen orb does what frozen orb pleases
Always great to see you giving more content for Asmongold, Preach!
Asmongold is a leech.
It's pretty sad that people started to do reaction shit again, it used to be hated just a few years ago.
Yeah the leech in person
So true
You realize its the people uploading and stealing the clips that are the true leeches
I love that you're coming back to High End and actually enjoying it, so happy for you!
Keep it up with this type of content, it's really great!
That Frozen Orb on pull at the start :D
What's special about it? i couldn't see the damage
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McFozan he missed it
About half way through Antorus I manned up and joined a raiding guild after not having done organised raiding since Classic. Being an otherwise LFR noob, but following the advices laid out from your channel, particularly the guides on getting people raiding, I was one of their top DPS (frost DK), but as a casual guild who only does 3 hours on a Saturday night per week, we only made it upto heroic coven.
Recently I was promoted to officer in the guild as I often share my advice and knowledge, and try to point as many people to your content. We are currently 5 bosses in on Normal and looking to progress this Saturday.
Love your content, Preach !
I'm living the casual life, cleared hc and 1/8m but honestly I barely have to log in. 365 equipped, farmed pots/flasks food before raiding week came and now I just do the expedition cap, 3-4 high m+, clear hc, do 1-2 bosses on mythic and enjoy working 12 hours a day. It's great. I miss my old guildies for that reason but can't join decent guilds when you finish from work at 20:15 st.
My rading boils down to clearing the first wing on Raidfinder once. I did a pug mythic plus and we had a fantastic wearbear tank. I talked to him and he asked me if I wanted to DPS raidfinder. I said sure why not. On Vek someone said: "Bounce the god damn orbs or we are wiping from now till tomorrow". Now being the good preach fan I am I imidiately did it as the only one (Arms). It tried to bounce on my new tank buddy and I saved him. from it. He whispered me mid fight: "TY!". That was magical, seeing what Preach did in legion on his warlock is true. Have a good one Preach
Glad you're having fun man. I'm loving BFA too, not quite the top end but I don't need to be great to have a whale of time. Slowly progressing through heroic with my guild, enjoying every minute of it
I skip all WQs except:
- Kill a single named mob
- Bonus 100/250 rep
- Shell Game
- Azurite "Woonz"
The rest are not worth the time. Also skip anything you are exalted with.
Do yourself a favor and try it this way for a bit, see if its more tolerable.
Seconded. Some of the quests (I'm looking at you, absorb azerite from elementals) just take way too damn long for what you get out of it
Azerite mining is easy enough if you use the double mine tactic (Just click the azerite again shortly before the cast finishes and it'll cast again, giving you double progress)
I do this this method also!
But what about all the turtles that need to make it to the water?
Snack time
I am so happy that 'holler ballers!' is back, no troll. Best and most fun greeting, Preach!
I felt that Frozen Orb wiff at the beginning deep in my soul. Feelsbadman.
This is the first time I've encountered a video that details how high end guilds do stuff. I'm always curious about this type of thing so thanks for that.
This is a very informative video. very well done. Gotta be honest though, I'm disappointed that there hasn't been a video covering the Q and A, or the live streamed mythic WF race. I, and many others, genuinely appreciate your content and would like to hear your take and commentary on events of this magnitude.
I really enjoyed and appreciated this glimpse into raiding at the high end :) gz on your progress!
BTW Preach, the item level tracker for personal loot is a character specific (Spec specific) record, nothing to do with items in bags. Just to save you a few slots in the future :D
Im playing an Armswarrior, after the first 2 Weeks im on 367 Ilvl, but im on a low pop server so im just pugging hc raids and im 7/8 hc now :) really happy about that !
It's really cool to see the different playstyles wow offers. This was a cool window into the house kinda video. Neat :)
Hey Preach, thanks for the awesome content! I'm in a heroic raid team (currently) and we just downed Zekvoz last night! Our biggest struggle was... wait for it.. EYE BEAM!
Hey Preach, I noticed you cast Ebonbolt regularly without using it for glacial spike. Could you explain the advantage of that? I thought ebonbolt was to be saved for when glacial spike is ready and you dont have brain freeze proc
Currently, my group is having a lot of problems having a consistent list of raiders compared to Antorus and lately, it was due to the storm on the East Coast but in two weeks, we did manage to finish 6 of 8 this week and yes, we're planning to do Heroic Progression. We got stuck on Vectis but we managed it, Fetid never was a problem. Zek'voz was surprisingly fun and clean after a wipe (with the voidball). Zul? A lot of coordination across 9 pulls but it always got better. Can't wait to see Mythrax and G'huun (possibly this week). My only wish is to get the kill on G'huun before October 9th (last LFR wing).
Alexandre Armont why before 9 october?
I’ve had a really shit time. I’m a 353 blood DK, and I’m in a guild that I got recruited into 2 weeks before BFA started. I leveled the DK. Leveled blood in opening of BFA and have been tanking ever since. What I’ve learned is that our guild is saturated with DKs, they only bring 2 for raids at most, (their into mythic now) and due to my work schedule. I’m a registered nurse. I work 12 hrs a day on a 3-1-3 rotation. I can’t make a consistent raid schedule, or make it on time. Due to that, I’m basically 3 weeks behind everyone and can’t seem to catch up. Neck level of 21. My issue is, no one in the guild wants to run with a “new” Dk who doesn’t have a 600 raider io score, nor can I find anyone who can seem to run an M+ greater than a 3 in group finder. I’ve had some really shit luck with loot drops since BFA opened. I have main tanked one normal Uldir full clear so that’s good, but as far as further progression, I don’t know what to do. Im effectively solo in a guild, it blows. I’ve been playing since patch 1.9 so I’m not new, I just took a few years off after cata...
Anyway. I’m frustrated because no one wants to run with me in guild, I’m frustrated because no one wants to arena with an UH/Frost Dk and I’m frustrated because I can’t seem to find a decent group to run M+ with to push my key higher than a 3, and I’m frustrated because due to my limited time, Azerite gear almost forces me to follow one spec entirely because changing traits has become rediculius expensive.
If anyone wants to run with a fairly solid DK tank, hit me up, I want to do some consistent 10s.
Whats a 3 1 3 rotation, also sounds like you need to find a new guild buddy
If I was rostered out when it's not fight specific mythic prog I'd gquit that night.
I remember the good old days when gearing up outside of raids was a process you could actually finish. Sure, there wasn't all that much to do when you weren't raiding, but turning everything into an endless grind isn't necessarily enjoyable content either. The only fun new thing is mythic+, everything else is just a mindless boring grind.
I have been in semi-hardcore raiding guilds with really nice progression that raids 3 days a week and they did not require you to have alts to raid. I'm talking about world 200ish or better rank 3 day raiding guilds that raid 3 times a week. 200ish or higher is very respectable and usually means you will clear all content, good team work and good strategy and leadership. A lot of these guilds have a hardcore mindset, like getting high rank, doing well on logs knowing their class in and out but also have real life or maybe a family.
I'm retired from WoW but my last two guilds were 3-days a week raiding guilds that did not require you to have extra alts. One guild ranked 136th and other was 249th.
My guild is up to Zul HC now, took a long time over Vectis (mainly down to group size) and a little while on Zekvos. Be interesting to see how long the last 3 take us, I'm expecting to find mythrax pretty hard and hoping ghuun is more fun than normal which I found pretty boring as a lock. Few of us pugged mythic taloc and I would agree it's pretty easy in terms of mechanics.
i had a group in mop that raided 3 days a week. i like to complete everything but i know i was alone in that. granted we weren't a proper heroic guild at the time. we decided to go from 2 days to 3 days to help with progression and we almost beat all of throne of thunder on heroic (we got to twins) before siege came out. then the group fell apart just before we killed garry normal.
3 days / week? #topkek
I remember in vanilla during AQ40 and Naxx, raiding 6 days / week during progress sometimes going for 6 hour raids. When I think about it now I cringe, but back then It was my highest honor being in a guild that was #14 in the world.
Good times.
Raiding in a casu raiding guild twice a week. Cleares 2x normal and 3 heroic so far. Iam enjoing dpsing on the dh a lot right now. Only thing thats anoying me is our 2 affliction warlocks bragging about the dps meters the entire time
I also play a Havoc DH in a really casual guild. I actually only joined a casual guild because my friend who has never played an MMO before decided he would join for BFA. Best part is he is typically top 3 dps in our raids and messes up less than most of the people that say they have been playing for years. We are currently only 5/8 normal with 2/8 heroic.
Unfortunately there is no guild you join that there won’t be people measuring their dicks by the dps meters.
Preach, mage question. I noticed you sometimes along the vídeo used GS without the BF proc, even when you had it. Why is that?
Im playing mage too, so it got me curious if it was a special condition moment or a simple oversight.
Yo preach quick question u guys gonna bring back the workshop? i know you did put out a video a while ago if people where intrested and i was whondering how was that feedback was it a yay or nay ??
I'm one of the few Prot Warriors left in the world. My guild is currently 3/8H and our issue has been people killing others with Eye beam on Zek'voz, oddly enough. We're way more casual where most people just show up to raid, do some lower level mythics, wq, some IEs and thats it. We're looking toward mythic but I have to whip my group into shape first. They need a lot of work on the awareness side and some coaching with regards to putting in some extra effort to get that higher ilvl benefit. I'm confident we'll get there.
So my guild is pretty casual but we usually get heroic down in a reasonably quick time. We were running into some problems with Mythraxx normal because that fight just confused the more derpy people in my raid guild, so we jumped to heroic and are 3/8 in that with some sub 20% pulls on Zek'voz while only being 6/8 N. Its a really odd place for us and very amusing at the same time.
Oh yeah you also asked about Vectis. We had a hell of a time on that boss because we are on the smaller side but with the changed to Omega Vector lasting longer we were able to kill it easily
Have to agree that these elongated execute phases bring a lot of tension with them, keeping the adrenaline pumping. The feeling of "It's not over yet" is what makes a first kill - once he pops - great.
Interested that you are enjoying your warrior, what spec?
Pay respect for all the lost dps when Preach was walking like a peasant instead of blinking like a mage in this video.
Went from a Mythic Guild in Legion to a Heroic focused one in BFA and found Vectis Heroic super strange. The fight really doesn't seem that hard but composition matters so much even at a heroic level. Crazy how certain healers especially just can't keep up with that fight due to their class and off healing dps are becoming popular.
Preach, my guild is stuck on zul (yeah, in normal) and we keep wiping in p2, because we cant kill him before the blood spreads over the entire platform. Any tips for keeping it more contained?
Your group DPS is clearly low as all hell. That part is just a race against the clock in terms of your healers.
Im in a Heroic guild and the big problem we have is too much "good" melee dps.
wasn't really a problem will we got to heroic mythrax.... rerolling rdps right now lol going to be a problem most likely in the next tiers. As always thanks for the video!.
Yo, what's that need greed addon for loot trading that showed at the end?
The issue we've had on heroic level? Bad and SUPER casual players that perform ok(average but not great). We do sit the bad players on heroic and later normal bosses, most of them at least. But they wanted to do another normal run after we had finished normal. It was week 2 and only our RL that had alts was saved 7/8N so we could finish normal progress without having to save someone else to the raid. We did the week 2 normal as the average players also wanted it. So here I am, 8/8N, 2/8H and 34% on Zek'Voz, with only one night of heroic progress in, feeling we could've done more progress...I'm wondering if I should go back to my Mythic team now they are 1/8M and normal and heroic cleared.
Preach what's the name of your balance druid because I want to check your parses man. I swapped to my main to a druid and I feel slightly weaker than my main of 7 years (blood/frost DK)
wrote this too early...you said that the parses are not public....thanks for sharing your experience man, is like catnip to us that never made it to that highend raiding
My raidings been very unlucky this time around. I can't seem to find a good guild which raids when I have time. Suppose I'll be sitting BFA out for a bit :/
what's the addon that shows loot frames? (like in group loot)
One thing i will agree on is that bosses defiately wear you down like our 1% wipe on zekvoz normal took 10.5 minutes and our healers struggle for mana towards the halfway point which is a bit wierd flipping the tables like that
I chose to level up my Frost Mage after I had my Shadow Priest up, re-doing every rep with no catch up mechanic took so much time and I'm almost to where I was with my Shadow Priest. Hopefully I don't choose to re-roll again anytime soon.
Why do 3 iland expeditions every day? Isnt it just a weakly for 2500???
The big rewards reset for each difficulty each day. So you can run normal, heroic and Mythic for the big rewards.
what big rewards?
pm kaboo yeah wtf are these so called big rewards? Wtf
AP
but AP is the same for first and 100th run?
The guild I am in are doing good. Managed to kill normal Zul yesterday after being stuck on vectis for 3 days. Progress feels good :)
In a 2day mythic guild atm, killed Taloc and Mother on our first set of pulls on Sunday because we spent one of our nights on heroic and mythic+
Then decided we might as well farm some more m+ before we tackle Zekvoz next reset.
Spent the rest of my time just doing m+, probably did 25 to 30 m+8 to m+12 keys this week because that's the content I enjoy. Completely forgot to do island expeditions because I'd rather hang myself, and I am not lagging behind in neck level either (85% into 23 right now)
What game would you recommend to replace WoW?
Honestly man i thinm the best pallete(howtfisthisspelled?) Cleanse is a good single player only game or 2
If you are looking for another MMO, Elder Scrolls Online is pretty solid. Its only downside is how bug ridden it is.
@@bourbonwarrior1618 like wow isn't filled with a shit load of bugs
What does hiding your logs do for the guild? I listened like 15 times and I can't understand the audio.
Keeps the meters over mechanics behavior down was his point I think.
He says they hide logs to get rid of ''dps hornyness'' so people focus more on mechanics, than trying to get the best logs possible
I’m enjoying the raid so far. Havnt cleared heroic yet, upto Zul. Have done mythic Taloc which was good. Only thing is there are Afew fights I feel take to long.
My guild of years died before BFA and the new guild I joined was super toxic so I left right before the raid opened. I somehow managed to pug my way to heroic G'huun 2nd week and got AOTC but knowing that I'm not going into mythic I find it hard to find a reason to keep raiding. I've raided since MC and this is the first expansion where I think I'm going to end up being casual during and it's weird. I don't want to join a guild without a friend at least but they're all scattered after my last guild died.
I think I'm just done raiding for good to be honest. I'll miss pushing though.
Guild is aiming for mythic but it doesn’t feel right for me anymore
Basically smsshed normal did first 3 heroic then sat people and they got to zul and then muthic week rolled around ignored normal sat people at first 3 bosses then brought in people for mythic taloc and I don’t know it just feels strange least they didn’t sit anyone until five bosses in this week but it might just be me feeling weird and odd about it
I’m in a casual Mythic raid guild. World 550 or so. We take raiding seriously but aren’t doing the whole required alts thing. It’s been fun, certainly the highlight of bfa atm. We are 1/8 and pushing to be 3/8 by tonights raid.
Bfa, in terms of raiding is fine, it’s just everything else is so lackluster feeling.
Loving Uldir tho, really good raid.
Video starts. see that frozen orbs. Cries inside. R.I.P.
My guild experienced a bug on Vectis where even with proper positioning and movement two omega vectors were going on one person, then both would jump to another and kill people off one by one.
Mickey Wallace it isnt a bug its bad luck
Im like the only mage in our raid team, and we have like 36 people logging on raid night. We always ask people who want to sit out for certain bosses. And I got stuck not slowed to jump out on any fights as we are also soo melee heavy atm. And being melee heavy seems to bring a lot of problems on many bosses. So we really need more ranged. So far we cleared 5-8 HC with 30man and been enjoying some off the fights more then others.
Zek' voz is pure bliss. What a great boss
Im in a German Guild that raids semi hardcore on 2 nights. We Are at 2/8M currently and I have mixed feelings about the raid. Mother is a complete design failure IMO, similar to Spine of Deathwing. 3/4 of the raid just dont do anything for the majority of the fight. The rest I found quite decent but nothing that blew my socks off.
I am especially stressed by the high prices of pots on our Server, as well as the constant buffs/nerfs for the azerite traits. Need to change my whole setup for the third time now and practice bosses again. My biggest plus in BFA is the M+ content. I enjoy basically all dungeons and it is beautifully designed.
As a new frostmage I have a question, why do you hold your flurry for so long instead of casting it as soon as it proccs?
Okay glad I'm not the only one wondering.... I mean i get casting a frostbolt and then blasting it and a quick ice lance , in hopes the frostbolt will proc another one... but he just sits there for multiple casts almost like he's ignoring it
Is there a reason for this??
because youre playing with glacial spike and ebonbolt. due to playing with ebonbolt you lose a 20% chance to get another brainfreeze proc and the damage you do with the shattered glacial is way more then doing the usual flurry + icelance stuff. if you have less than 3 icicles and a brainfreeze proc you use it if you have 3 or more icicles and get a brainfreeze proc you hold onto it i hope you understood my explanation ^^
Frost mage plays very counter intuitive. You hold flurry procs for glacial spike unless you're at 1-3 icicles and feel like gambling on getting another proc, or you cast ebonbolt. You literally never cast ebon bolt except for a flurry proc for your glacial spike.
It is counter intuitive because unlike most specs that want to keep things rolling on CD, mage wants to keep them off CD for juicy glacial spikes. That's it.
Edit: I also just read the comment above. And yes.
this is inaccurate, Not shattering your ebonbolt is a dps loss, one of the main ones alot of frost mages make. Always shatter your ebonbolt dont be a lazy degenerate and ebonbolt to proc for your glacial spike. Learn the right rotation.
the literal best setup is a brain freeze proc on your 4th frostbolt cast into ebonbolt - flurry (if you do it fast you still get the proc from ebon) icelance - glacial - flurry - icelance
I hold the #2 spot on heroic vectis on US Proudmoore as a TV frost mage so I'm happy about that. I'm beating all the arcane and GS mages so it feels good :)
HyperXD - A DEMONOLOGY warlock appears!? Where can I reach this guy, what was he doing to do 14k stabile on Zek'Voz?? So many questions.
Vectis wasn't a problem for small raid after they fixed vector (longer debuff time for smaller groups = less stacks).
Mythrax is the PITA. Same number of mind flayers regardless of group size. 15 people was a decent sweet spot in Legion...that's gone now, need at least 20. Don't know why Blizz say raids scale for 10-30 people and then just not give a crap about small groups.
I am fairly confident that the mythic raids are design for 385+ in current form. Best of the best are barely getting G'Huun to under 10% in 370.
What is the name of the huge mount at 15:40?
Vicious War Clefthoof
One of my friends only raids 3 days a week. Granted, it's 16 hours per raid-day, but it's still "only" 3 days.
Even though im not in a hardcore raiding guild I love Uldir bosses as well.
Just as you said "small indie company" I had a swarm of fishes (Razerhaw Chompers) in Nazmir suddenly float on to land, then teleporting under the floor and attacking me from under the floor where I couldnt even target them.
I've been loving in it. Zek'voz is probably one of my favorite fights ever. Heroic progression is going a little slow, but we will get through it. Slapped the dog on second pull, but vectis is killing us lol.
My guild raids one night a week, small guild of 14 players. We couldn't get past vectis until the raid size nerf the following week and we one shot it.. Now we're stuck at Zul because we don't have any priests..
I got ahead of the curve LFR.
You thinking of rolling as arcane for fetid?
Had about 30 people for Wed and Thurs, then a slow turn out of 12 on Sunday. Difference was extreme... Really punishing for smaller raid sizes
My computer went and died week one of raiding. So no mythic prog for me. Not until my new rig gets here and I set it up :(
I'm part of a normal/heroic progression group and we raid 3 days a week. It's exhausting. I can't imagine trying for mythic again.
That frozen orb froze my hearth for a sec
That weakaura for the Ghuunie bois is real nice.
we've been having trouble on the blood boss guy we dont have a 20 man grp so we can end up with the infection like 3 times one person
Ghuun was fucking awesome. Real sense of dread throughout that last phase.
Preach, can I still get in on the raiding experience at a mid level? I'm a big fan of your videos especially Drama Time and the overarching theme on them that keeps coming up is raiding. But between your team being really high level, Drama Time typically being old stories, and the way guilds are homogenized in games is seems like real raiding guilds don't exist outside of Mythic. I play a Panda Monk, doing world content as Brewmaster and dungeons/LFR as Mistweaver. I'm 334 on both but slowly making my way up. I really want to experience organized raiding. LFR is miserable: there's no team work of camaraderie and frankly its just a matter of retrying until you clear by luck. I want to have a spot on a team, and have people to bant with and stuff. But I don't know if there are guilds out there for mediocre players like me. I'm not great at WoW, or games in general, but I try my best. What do you think?
WoWProgress shows all the raiding guilds with kills. Just find your server and you can select a guild you like
As a mage main myself, that Frozen Orb in the begining hitting right where it hurts.... F
This was the first time me giving a serious try to raid since cata and join a raid guild and while heroic raids and mythic+ are fun and good content, absolute everything else feels like the only purpose is to make me keep play and grind as long as possible and do mundane tasks, like I had to at a minimum wage job. It's not a challenge, it's not rewarding. Knowing I have to do this for weeks and months every single day and expeditions every week to keep my numbers appropiate for the raids is an insult to the player and not worth my time.
Glad you're enjoying the hardcore sode of things. Definitely not been enjoying the channel as much since WoD. Do you but I truly hope content of thebold calibre becomes a thing again. If not, at least you're having fun.
Grayz
It's not just the high end that has a big time investment, but Mythic does seem to require too much commitment for me. I raided 5 nights a week back in WoTLK - Heroic hard-modes, split runs, you name it. Yes, there were great first kills, moments of perfect coordination and some screams at server firsts. Ulduar remains the highlight of my raiding experience. Downing The Lich King Heroic was great and all, but nothing so far has topped the hard-modes of Ulduar.
I came back to try some 10 man heroic raiding in Cata with a few of the people who survived farming TLK long after it was challenging and the long wait for the new expansion, but Dragon Soul killed my soul. I got my legendary rogue daggers, but farming that raid took it's toll. I never went back to heroic 25, or even heroic 10 and I've never set foot in Mythic (which looks to me a lot like the old 25 Heroic hard-modes).
So last week, I did LFR Uldir expecting disappointment, zero challenge and lots of raging in the chat. However, I was pleasantly surprised. There were a few wipes as people learned the fights, but it was just hard enough (with the crappy gear us casuals have) and still gave something of an experience of raiding. I'll stick with LFR. I'd love to do Normal (or even heroic) if any of my friends still played, but in a pug LFR is as far as I want to go this early in an expansion.I actually think Blizzard has done a good job of making raid content accessible over the years, so there is a mode that will suit any level of time investment (I'm not saying skill, because there are plenty of skilled players with 340 gear and not enough time). ;-)
My raiding has been.. not. I've turned into a filthy casual thanks to my schedule. I do m+, heroic raids when I can join the guild run (4/8 heroic, yay -.-) and whatever content there is in BFA to gear up not tied to raid times. My guild, however, got 2/8 on mythic which kinda makes me proud since they decided to go all out. Strange going from rushing mythic in Legion to what it is now. But, I'm still having fun, my way, probably the wrong way - but my way. /Beo
Playing WOW makes your head more bald
Just look at Bellular and Asmongold :sadface
Buff shaman
I pugged ghuun heroic ghuun and killed second week after like 200 wipes. Kinda enjoying this raid I think.
Ok where is this guy's twich stream i need a link because clearly that's where he has been spending a lot of his time.
Life saving, just got dinner ready, prepared to watch !
Heroic Vectis is a fucking nightmare in my guild. Not because we're bad or anything, I'm not saying we're method either but we manage. Dps are mostly melee, we have like 8 melee dps and 2 ranged, it's fucking nuts... We're stuck hard on this one. Zekvoz was hard too but fortuntately we got it on last pull of the night hehe
gosh you're so good preach, humblebrag more bro, i hath done this bugged m8
Was able to join my guild only on mythrax on normal, and my job was to kick players from portals. Im frost mage, so part of fingers of trost was wasted, and then people were not pleased with my dps. I want more solo content
he says warrior with 21 neck and 352.......like "oh that is exactly where my main is at" then he womp womps.......thanks preach nice to know i am useless and a womp womp ;)
We wiped more times than I'd care to admit to Heroic Zek'Voz, until we kicked the one guy who kept killing people with Eye Beam. We then proceeded to kill the boss within five pulls. Personal responsibility matters, guys. Do your job.
Only tanked 6/8 normal went in pretty blind was fun but we had half group of pugs mythrax was too much for people we had a undergeard offtank also. Gonna look for a heroic guild that runs weekends or find a mythic guild where i can tank alt runs. I dont care about loot just wanna see things.
Ghuun and Mother been tough because some people are just plonkers that cannot communicate...
Half of my raid team quit the guild. We were getting into heroic
Actually saw you in one of the guides of Fatboss and was super confused Preacher. :D