Reacting to More HORRIBLE Art Advice from TikTok
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I mean its important for digital artists to understand color theory even if they use blending modes. Understanding why unexpected colors work in certain circumstances is great and helps you be more expressive with color. It works best if you can thoughtfully pick a funky color and roll with it rather than just relying on blending modes. You can add more nuance & appreciate traditional art more for the work *they* have to do to get certain colors
Exactly! I use very limited blending modes because I'm trying to acheive a more painterly look (though I tend to still paint way too tightly). And it's important to know how color works visually so you can play with it. Like sometimes you want to make a color that's in shadow pop and color theory can tell you how far you can push that and still look right.
it's okay i'm too stupid to figure out blending modes anyways
The level of color theory you need to make an art piece look good is a level you’ve probably been doing for your whole life without realizing it.
@@JakeTheLateCreates well. Yeah. Looking good is a pretty base level bar to pass
I didn't know that I was supposed to use blending modes to do it easier, I always go straight for the color that I want to make it look like in the end akdmfnc
the "tracing to study not bad" take is sooooo crazy overdone lmao. when I'm starting a new drawing I will trace over a reference to get a feel for the pose I'm using and then I will draw it myself using what I observed from tracing. it absolutely has its merits and to most artists its common sense that its fine as long as you dont claim its yours
I mean even professional artists keep saying that tracing helps you to train your muscle memory, especially when you use pictures and don't directly trace the art itself but break it down into shapes to understand the construction of anatomy better for example.
It's like asking an athlete to not run for two years, then sign him for a marathon out of nowhere without preparation.
So I agree with both of you
@@ScaraGucci Tracing is breaking down stuff that you don't understand, granted that real life has way more invisible aspects that are hard to detail. But even using it on someone's art to try and break it down before you apply it yourself can be helpful.
FFS we had whole exercises dedicated to using tracing as a learning tool in many of my college art classes. From life drawing to digital art professors would have several lessons using it in order to brake down and learn what you want.
That is really smart! I'm going to try this!
5:28 I actually didn't know that most digital artist relied on layer effects. I tend to just desaturate, darken and shift the hue of colors to get the shadow effect I want. It's more satisfying that way imo. But, maybe that's just from my time using traditional painting mediums, hah.
I mean in traditional painting you use a wash of blue or purple to darken something. That essentially what layer masks are for digital
It depends on the artist, some use them more than others. The more you're trying to make your work look like traditional art the less they tend to get used but everyone uses them at least some of the time.
I used to, but it was too time consuming, now a use multiply, if i want darker shadows in some part and shinies i do it like that tho
I do the same thing, I feel like if I use multiply or overlay I’m not really drawing on shadows or highlights. It kinda feels like cheating if you start with traditional art
I only figured out how to use layer effects like a month ago on digital 😅 (I don’t like them that much and do the color shifts myself)
5:38 i dont think I've ever heard someone so passionately mad before like this
Yeah, chill my dude it's just colors ~. He got so triggered because of smug people feeling they climbed Mt. Fuji by figuring out one stand out aspect of color theory when in reality they need to apply all the aspects. Oh well.
lol he sounds like angry zuko from avatar
Honestly I get it though. I'm trying to get better at colouring, and telling someone "Oh lol its brown not blue" and just colour picking and showing it off without showing the process is unhelpful and confusing. I've seen that tiktok recently, and I remember being confused by it and I had a hunch it was just blend modes at work but this video confirmed it.
@@PutineluAlin After watching my favorite streamer on Twitch for months, I actually enjoy this kind of ranting and think it's cute xD
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7:48 you could always use custom brushes as a base/guide and then edit em out to make the hairstrands actually fit with the drawing
Yeeesss, this is literally what I'll do with complicated hair styles I can't fully wrap my lizard brain around. I'll use the brushes almost like a sketch and then go over them adding my own lighting, pizazz, etc.
@@RadicalYue Yo, I never thought of that?? I should try that sometime. How do you get it to not feel as stiff? Mimic the movement you want or bend the layer with a tool?
@@peachypastella8647 I'll try to use the tool to get as close to what I want as possible and then turn it into a sketch layer and fully redraw over it. Sometimes I'll transform the sketch layer a bit to give me more versatility than the tool (which is typically stiff) would provide.
Then use that as a guide. Customize, alter some things, add some things. But the tool should give you an incredibly strong guiding start point.
That or overlay wih your own shading/coloring on top of it! Kind of like a rough base to save time? It feels obvious to me you'd need to do more with custom brushes like that anyways. Like duh it depends on the style of course you cant always leave it by itself.
i basically use custom brushes for braid to get the general shape and flow down on the sketch and then hand draw it
I'm actually glad you covered black hair styles, im black myself, and i do agree with your take on those custom brushes. I have a few characters that have black hair styles like that and i don't think i would personally use them either because of your reason. Thank you for covering this!
Also something for the symmetry tool, I use it actually for sketch purposes, if I am drawing a pose or face that is symmertrical to a degree. Because I am using iot for a sketch I can get Arm/leg positions, or general fave shape symmetrical while not making it look unnatural to my own style
You may not see it, but it's really easy to see a symmetrically drawn piece. Even using the symmetry photo filter looks weird irl.
I can also see it being a utility for garment drawing especially if the garment your drafting out isn't asymmetrical, but that's a completely different type of art style and drawing practice.
Dont use it at all. Poses are never symmetrical and also not faces.
I get what you mean, I've done that a few times too. I advise against using symmetry for lineart, but if you're using it for the very first initial guideline sketch just to lay everything down, then it can be helpful. but still, like the video said, slightly turned faces instead of completely dead front-facing can add so much more life
@@tatteryt its better to just learn anatomy
5:12 I'm very happy that someone is so passionately mad about this too LOL. I've always hated when people make these kinds of videos talking about color theory, making it seem so complicated and making beginners confused and afraid of it. I find them funny bc they also don't teach anything that could be useful, they're just making a fuss out of it and being like "omg i cant believe that this red color is not actually red!!" like bro be for real.
I absolutely agree. And it's not even that hard to put another layer and set it to multiply, and put an orange color over it or whatever lol
ADNVANCED color theory is complicated, but anything “advanced” usually is. Learn what you want, but it’s true that you don’t need super deep color theory to be a successful artist.
How is it making it complicated? The video was literally just, red lighting make thing more red lol. As a beginner I would have found that video really cool
yeah but to be fair the users on tt are always a little bit slow and just a BIT dumb, those people need things explained to them like you would to a kid.... but it's still annoying as hell LOL
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9:58 I know it’s a bad example for this but its like that one family guy skit when Lois says “9/11 was bad” and everyone claps
I feel like being told not to use overly saturated colors, shade with black, shade with blue etc. really ruined my painting process because while yeah it might apply to the more mainstream social media art style with lineart and stuff it DEFINITELY won't apply to a proper painting because real lighting is so much more malleable than that
EXACTLY.. an entire generation of digital artists took that advice without looking at the nuance of it and made it the literal status quo for art 😭
Those tips, especially the one about saturated colours are just for beginners who don't know much about colour composition.
You're supposed to grow out of them once you know what you're doing.
@@Allyfyn Absolutely, but I think simply saying "*Don't do this!*" isn't all that helpful either.
Beginners (especially those who are not the type of students to question the advice given to them by their teachers because of personality, young age, etc.) might end up not fully understanding why exactly they are doing what they are and will just follow the advice.
I think it's more helpful to be a bit more specific with such things. It's better to explain *why* they shouldn't be doing or should be doing stuff.
I'm not saying it's a good idea to bombard them with all the information we have about shading, we are NOT sitting down and explaining sub-surface scattering to a total beginner. Of course we're gonna start with the basics.
But making blanket statements and passing them as "unbreakable rules in art" without any further clarification can stagnate the growth of young & impressionable artists, prevent them from experimenting and finding their own unique style, and generally do more bad than good.
@@dont_know_my_name I know that lol
Tiktok artists giving tips: "Things i wish i knew when i was a beginner artist! - to get better at drawing i have to draw"
And then they put the most obvious things to understand as an artist regardless of level
tbh- ive heard that more here on youtube than tiktok
About the color theory- 5:24 GOD FREAKING THANK YOU!!!! IVE BEEN SAYIN’ THIS FOR SO LONG YET PEOPLE ARE STILL BAFFLED BY THIS!!
I mean, blending modes are just as confusing to a beginner artist imo. Heck, I'd even say that using blending modes can instill bad habits in beginner artists (personal experience, everyone is different tho)
Not all artists use such shortcuts. Some prefer to do everything from scratch and treat their digital art a lot more like traditional painting. Besides, knowing how color context and just general color theory works is a good skill to have!! Especially for artists that don't only do digital. Why are we getting angry at a video that's CLEARLY trying to explain a phenomenon that may be very confusing for some newer artists trying to understand it? I can understand how it may be frustrating to see it because you don't have a hard time grasping it but some people do!! Crazy right? People not knowing or understanding the things you do?? Woooooow.
@@skytheidiott Oh yeah, definitely agree on that second part. Not speaking from personal experience on this, but one thing I know very well is that relying too much on certain tools to do the work for you can prevent beginners not only from improving on their practical skills, but also their knowledge of theory and their understanding of how things like lighting work.
Also, just because the people in the video used digital art to showcase what they said, doesn't mean that their explaination can't or won't be helpful for the fellas drawing traditionally. Idk, that part of the video just seemed waaaayyy too dramatic to me and frankly very silly.
I think that OP is either being theatrical and over-the-top for the sake of the entertainment value of the video or is being way too dramatic and immature about the whole situation. 😂It's not at all that serious.
I think with the colour theory craze, it's more meant for beginner artists who don't know you're actually layering on another colour and bend over backwards tryna figure out how and why the "blue" looks the way it does and then when they eyedrop it it's actually some desaturated shade.
It's exactly that. Heck, a lot of the videos offering tips on TikTok are directed towards people who are just starting to get into art.
Not only that but, a lot of that content is made by random self-taught intermediate-to-sort-of-experienced artists who do art for fun and don't have that much experience in drawing itself or, if they're doing art as a job, they don't have lots of experience in the industry (many of them are freelance artists making money off of commissions) and they just want to share their (limited, lol) knowledge with others who don't have it yet. Let's also not forget just how many people are making such "tips" videos. A big part of it is bound to be of either low quality or the same advice that has been given time and time again.
That's not unique to TikTok, it's just more prominent and obvious on there because of how it's designed, visually and practically, and because of its algorithm.
I'm the freak that likes to draw lots of complicated stupid details by hand because I find a weird zen in it - but I don't find issue with the custom brushes. HOWEVER - a big tip that my friend and I have discovered is that it's actually better to use the custom brushes on a separate layer to get the general shapes/direction/etc then lower the opacity and on a new layer draw over it. You're gonna get a more natural line variance while you're tracing and you can make small edits as you go to make it actually work more with your natural drawing style.
My take on custom brushes is that if you like the way your work looks using custom brushes, then go for it. SNA's criticisms are about the same, the criticism isn't about using the full breadth of digital tools, but the effect doing so has on your work. I agree in the tik tok he viewed, it looks awful, but if it fits their style, and it satisfies whoever they're drawing for (which can 100% be themselves and no one else), thenm that's good enough to keep.
4:38 THIS IS SO TRUE! When it comes to my art, I’m good at drawing girls but not guys but that doesn’t make me a bad artist! You don’t have to learn how to draw everything to be considered a good artist. Creating art is supposed to be fun and it’s okay if you just draw the same thing as long as you are comfortable and enjoying it :)
Well, creating art is supposed to *just* be fun if you're a hobbyist. If you try to get a job as eg. a character designer, they'll notice that you don't have all that many designs of male characters or that your male characters lack the same quality designs as the girls and women. "Creating art is supposed to be fun! (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧" won't fly all that well in such an instance, will it? XD
Well I suppose if sb is looking to work as a freelancer making commissions they could make that work too lol.
8:20 the symmetry tool can also make your characters cross eyed sometimes and in general i wouldnt use the symmetry tool for anything but logos and items
@rat_in_a_bucket yeah i just usually draw the eyelashes and then the irises later
I use ibisPaint X, but what I do (I usually don't do the sketch on a single layer, and my style[?] is just kinda sketchy itself) is I duplicate the half of whatever it is I'm tryna draw (last example was a wine bottle), I flip it horizontally and move it so it lines up, and since it's on a different layer, I go back to the other and do a sort-of trace, then delete the layer I duplicated so it looks symmetrical but it's not exactly, adding some kinda natural-ness to it :3
on art tracing as a form of study - you'll learn more if you trace photo references or even 3D models rather than other's illustration.
i think tracing masters can be helpful, like artists that illustrate for MTG cards. it is difficult to find references for imaginary beasts
While I dont disagree, I personally enjoy learning from drawn examples of anatomy than irl references. It makes more sense for my brain and its definitely more fun.
@knives.3733 but you might be replicating someone else's mistake...
Depends on what you're studying. If youre studying how someone draws their eyes/stylized hair, its better to trace someone elses art.
@@Homodemon Depends on what you consider a mistake. Besides, people usually don't look up to artists who don't know what they are doing, so mistakes aren't that big of an issue. Even then, the whole point of tracing as a form of studying is to think critically about what goes where, how, and why.
On top of that, studying from experienced artists whose style and technique you admire can help you understand and implement elements you like about their art into your own work.
Honestly, it all comes down to the *kind* of studying someone wants to do. If they're trying to study anatomy fundamentals they should probably look to work with pictures of real life. If they're trying to do an art study to try and learn, say, how to imitate the shape language of their favorite artist, they should study that artist's work instead.
Symmetry tool is useful for character sheets, especially if you're going to make a 3D model of it for something like a game or animation. But even so, you're not going to use it 100% of the time, since a lot of characters have asymmetric traits.
But as a standalone art piece, yes, like you said, it doesn't look that great. (might work as a profile pic tho)
The symmetry tool really is just that, a *tool*. If you use it correctly, it will work out well in the end.
my art hot take: line quality doesnt matter on the sketch layer. put all your energy getting the weight and smoothness on the inking, the lines people will actually see not the guidelines they wont. sketch layer is all about composition posing and form
If this is a hot take, it really shouldn’t be.
this is the coldest take of the century my guy
if this is hot then room temperature must be fucking burning
It’s much easier to make the sketch lines good though, and I’d never force myself to make a sketch look worse just cause it would make inking slightly easier (which it probably wouldn’t anyways)
There's also another technique where instead of drawing the lines of a separate layer, some artists will instead clean up their sketch and work with that as their "lineart". Granted, it doesn't work for everyone but depending on the style (and how someone does their sketching), it might do the trick.
Yeaaah idk about that color theory take. If I'm putting a blue object in a warm space I'm picking out that pinkish purple on the color wheel. Personally I find it a lot more fun and rewarding knowing I'm not at mercy to my program. I don't think it's pretentious to know what you're doing. Blending modes are a great tool for beginners/casual artists tho
You're still supposed to understand color theory even if you're a digital artist only imo.
Over relying on blending modes and not understanding how light affects objects can seriously stunt your artistic endeavors.
3:50 i can kind of agree with your take here. If you just copy the 3d model without much change, its def going to look pretty stiff. Its why i now use the 3d model more of a guide line now instead of straight up tracing it. I think there is def a bad way and a good way of using 3d models for your art
I guess it's just me but I agree with the color one. Yes you could rely on blending modes nothing wrong with that but it helps you a lot what colors to choose if you understand how they interact with each other and with different lighting scenarios. Sycra has a great video about this and I didn't understand it at first either but the more you draw and the more you look and study at art the less confusing it becomes.
I've still got lots to learn when it comes to making art
Which is why I avoid TikTok tutorials, I feel like there's too many false or bad advice for me to use that would slow me down
When you learn a bit more you're gonna have an easier time distinguishing between genuinely good advice and unhelpful garbage. But in general, getting shitty advice from online tutorials is not anything uncommon or surprising. Just stick to doing your own studies or take advice from people who clearly know what they're doing.
7:26 for costume hair brushes like these, I find that people often go in and fix the highlights and shading and add to the finer details later. :)
Picking good colours to begin with will always look better than slapping a blending mode layer over the top imho. You get way more control and fhen you can use blending modes for enhancements or the curves tool to help unify stuff. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ getting mad at people showing what good colour theory looks like is kinda wild lol
Agree. Bro still a novice so I understand.
Agreed. Finding a good palette first goes a long way. Blending modes won't fix the colors mostly.
You said you don’t normally make content like this, but I actually find your commentary to be really interesting and entertaining since our art styles are so different and the tutorials don’t help me specifically! :D
I don't know if you're an older artist or a younger artist. I'm an older artist. I think a lot of the reason the color theory stuff is trending is because younger artists are not doing digital art the same way as we did when we grew up. Traditionally digital artists learned with a lot of layers, inking, etc. A lot of younger digital artists now work on just one or a few layers. Inking/lining is not even that popular anymore compared to the past. A lot of them are actually working more like a traditional physical painter if anything. In that regard, they aren't really doing the whole 'shading on another layer and messing with opacity/layer style'. With this in mind they will run into those issues with picking the right shading colors when attempting different hues of light etc, so those kind of videos are useful for them.
Honestly, good for them. Learning color theory and how to use color context to their advantage is a useful skill that they are most certainly not going to get by just making an overlay multiply layer and filling it in with a bucket or something. It's not at all a bad thing that artists are not being lazy with their learning. I genuinely have a hard time understanding just *why* OP got so mad over this trend. 😂
You can use 3D models without it being super stiff or lacking exaggeration. I use 3D models all the time, simply because I find it easier to keep track of general proportion (I can draw without them. If I don't find them helpful for that piece I simply will not use them) but you cannot rely on them for all of your anatomy and need to understand how the body works and how to exaggerate to really utilize them well. Lots of professional artists with very fluid art use them all the time. Same thing for custom brushes: if you understand how they are used and which applications are best for it, you can use them to enhance the piece and save time. What makes a difference between an intermediate or beginner artist and a high level artist is understanding how to best use them and incorporate them into the picture so it all fits together seamlessly.
Also not all digital artists rely on layer blend modes. I try to use them sparingly because I find it way too easy to get muddy colors from it where as before I tried to do like, all multiply or something. If I'm completely at a loss I'll just slap a multiply or overlay layer on but I try to do it intentionally. Understanding color theory and hand picking colors does do a lot to improve your drawings with your ability to understand light and shadow and how to make cohesive pictures.
For me, one of the biggest bad art advice I've been fed is every line has to be a lone one and you're not allowed to layer or use multiple because that's chicken scratching and bad.
For a long time I was using line art so clean it was dead and empty of personality. It made art worse for me and as a person with Tourette's Syndrome, made art very frustrating and difficult.
Since then I've let my line art be looser and I began to realise something. My work resembled a manga style much more closely because *gasp* most of the greats don't even abide by this!
Hatching on the edges of thicker lines, allowing for flexes and forms of muscles to be scratchy to resemble skin stretching, hair having several rough lines to break it up, etc, all gave my work more personality.
Of course it's important to learn line confidence to come degree but if you're an illustrator and not an animator and focus heavily on line art, please please please experiment with looser lines and see if it fits.
I've never liked inking more than I do now and my stabilisation on my brush now constantly fluctuates to accommodate different aspects.
I too hate TikTok.
Based (Yet I keep using it, you know, like a MORON.).
6:53 "The human eye is very good at capturing patterns..."
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Bro....
this is the realest art critique video
for the niche practice of making vtuber models, the symmetry tool became my best friend. it’s almost never off in that specific case.
6:00 finally someone fuckign says it LMFAOOO this shit is only impressive and interesting in traditional painting. In digital? wow you used the multiply filter???? hollyyy shit genius!!
Not everyone does that and I'm pretty sure they weren't trying to make it seem impressive or anything, just confusing.
I feel that problem with custom brushes. Every time I use one I wind up having to go back and edit the shading anyway because the result looks weird and displaced from my art style. 😅 It does save me time getting the base colors down, but it's not a one and done.
Still important to understand the color theory behind it tho. Like yeah i get that digital art programs make it super simple thanks to layer styles but yknow,,,,,
All of his Pain in one video
Tracing is still talked about a lot cuz a lot of folks still take commissions where they trace over everything….
for the symmetry tool:
completely agree with always giving an angle, but sometimes you just gotta, so this is how i use it
I symmetry the base sketch, and then sketch over without symmetry.
this helps to keep everything aligned and proportional (as when you draw a front facing face youre more likely to find a lopsided eye or something), but keeping it a perfect mirror can be boring. so once the structure is set, the sketch can get nice 'imperfections', or maybe uneven the expression.
for the tracing part:
this is more for the extremely newbie artists or even non-artists.
i've seen people call out tracing artists as tracers and non-artists defending them, or newbies being like 'well yeah i traced it but i changed a couple of things so its fine'. i've seen people asking if tracing is actually bad or not. so yeah, some people just dont equate it to stealing unfortunately, or think they can get away with it until they get called out.
9:10 "nobody's ever looking at the camera of their phone... just staring straight right at it" Anyone I've ever sent pictures to would disagree
it's so funny to me when it says "mimicking shapes is good practice" and proceeds to. automatically generate a perfect circle with that thing procreate does 💀 I mean, you BARELY get to see perfect circles in drawings (or at least in the process of SKETCH, it doesn't really matter lol)
I'm glad you pointed out some of the stupid stuff that tiktoks do all the time LMFAOO
The advice on sketching was quite helpful! I always wondered why sometimes the sketch never translate well to lineart, and how when I did more attempts, it tend to look better overall then the ones where i draw it once and try to lineart it right away, now thats in my head and i'll try to actively make more clearer sketches!
With stamps, i think theyre really important in comics and stuff thats released in a tight schedule. Places where artist are already overworked and draw the same things pretty often
I was expecting: "If I say anything you disagree with, pretend im right" Also the stuff you showed made me realize how good I am off not using tiktock
I mean while it doesn't make sense in digital ary due to filters and colour tools it makes sense for a tutorial because someone watching might do traditional art. I dont see how its valueless knowledge for anyone to hsve whether they do digital art or not.
Bro got really upset over colors lmao
Fr I get he’s critiquing advice but a lil immature imo
"just because you can't draw everything, doesn't men you're a bad artist!"
As someone who cannot draw humans but hides that fact with really good drawings of lions, and somehow gets an A+ in art class, I can confirm this works. ("can you draw me" is my greatest fear, also I don't think my art teacher knows I can't draw humans because I avoid it like the plague when I'm around her.)
tbf i sometimes see digital artists going straight in with the colors rather than using blend modes and whatnot, but thats usually artists who started with traditional. also knowing what color to use to paint stuff in light and shadow is a really valuable skill for any artist :p
3:18 I'm glad that I'm finally found someone that talked about EVERY artist have their own art style. This is also the reason i barely used(tracing) those free to use hand drawing because it never fit my art style but i still download the pic because i still need it as a reference lol
Colour theory thing is just a good fundamental thing to have. Some people don't like using the blending layers.
Can relate to the agression with the colour theory trend since so many times you try looking for tips about something you're struggling with and they're either skimmed, badly explained or presented in an infuriating way that makes you reject the advice
My two cents (hope ya don't mind, its not necessarily negative):
Lineart: I literally rely on the lineart in my work. It often make or breaks my piece. Its part of why I love doing it so much. I know if my lineart is good, then my finished piece will likely look EVEN BETTER.
"Stamps"/F2U Bases: Okay, this is iffy. I SOMETIMES use bases... but not the base itself. First, I ask the artist if its okay to change some things to make it more unique (say it has a theme), and then if they agree, I tailor it to my style and then build around it. It helps me learn more about that kind of style so to say (I mostly use it for adoptables - if allowed - or experimentation).
Other than that, I agree with pretty much everything else you said! (Especially custom brushes, I only end up using half cause like... its not MY thing? They are cool, but they never go with my style at allll. Eh, if you wanna sell your brushes, go for it, just personally seems a waste for me, I love the learning process).
Lovely video btw! 💕💕
During the whole video it felt like bro was done with life lmao
5:24 I did use filters in the past but I moved away from using them during the drawing process because that was hindering my coloring ability and making my pieces feel desaturated and ashy. Nowadays I simply do an overlay filter on the finished product to give it a little glow or otherworldly feel. And I feel like most digital artists do the same. It feels to me like it’s very much a beginner kind of thing to be relying on filters to color. It’s something you grow out of in my opinion and I don’t think professional digital artists use it. At least personally I’ve never witnessed it 🤔
8:08 I think the symmetry tool is great for character sheets, that way it’s easier to use it as a reference! But I definitely agree that using it in a normal illustration will make the character look dead
The only time you really want to use the symmetry tool is when you’re doing it for Live2D, assuming your character is front centered.
I guess you can use the symmetry tool for a front facing face, and then transform it to angle it slightly and use that as a base.
personally, despite the fact that I think I've watched at this point a hundred tiktok or instagram posts about tracing and when it's bad and good etc, I still don't mind it because even now, it spreads awareness to every new artist out there.
digital art is still vastly different from other types of art and there are probably thousands of people who just started it last month, so I think it's good to see some basics get always trending :)
When the person doing the tracing doesn't credit the original artist(s) and instead claims other people's work as theirs, there's no benefit for the artist. That's the issue. If someone does it and makes it clear that the piece is traced, that's when people's attention is going to be diverted to the original creator.
6:08 never really thought about it before when seeing people talk about color theory (but that might be because i havent seen many people talk about it like this) but honestly you are so fuckin real for that LOL
I mostly see in ibis x global arts where people have bad lineart but good coloring which is totally opposite to my art my artline is good but coloring very bad i dont use any effect because i dont know anything about it 😆
on the color theory something I feel is worth saying is that color when used on their own without blending mode can make other colors feel brighter or darker than they actually are. at first I was worrying about my eyes not using pure white but it doesnt matter when other colors surrounding are darker than it is, but I agree that the way they presented it was not very helpful. It has a nugget of truth but misses critical infos
for the color theory one it's perfectly normal for people transitioning from physical painting, which has been around for longer.
I use 3D models to help me with poses, but what I do isn't trace it. My style is very styllized bodies. So, what I do with the models, is draw my basic pose shape things (the block and stick and orb things) over it, delete the model, then use the shapes like I normally would when drawing.
Something else with direct head on drawings, I find that crossing the eyes just slight if you want to do a flat head on makes the character look more lively. Because alot of times when your eyes are focus to the front. They're not straight focused. Binocular vision works on an overlap, so most times a focus point will cause a little bit of physical eye crossing, especially the closer it gets to you. Kind of how doctors test for ocular muscle weakness by getting you to track a pen towards your nose and away again.
When I was in elementary my family told me that using references is horrible and that true art is drawn from imagination. I felt so bad about my art after that and stopped using any references to bridge gaps (e.g to figure out a pose) for a few years. Took all the fun out of art because every single project ended in frustration. Use references guys, expanding your visual library is essential in being able to draw anything well from imagination.
i think the reason why people are making the “tracing is ok as long as you do it for yourself” take is bc i remember like a decade ago people had the whole “tracing is bad you’re garbage if you trace” mindset
i think the color theory thing is more of a painting thing, try painting without overlays, its really fun and picking the colors is very interesting when you remember the whole color theory thing
lol you had me until color theory and blending modes. Honestly, if you use blending modes and it makes sense for you that's great! I actually find it cool that adding a multiply layer with the color you want it to blend with makes the same effect (I never knew about it previously). But for me personally, I like hand picking my colors, which requires color theory knowledge. If you've ever done color studies, color relativity is really important to understand what is actually going on in an image. A beginner might view a color as blue and attempt to use it, only to find it looks wrong without understanding why. But then again, sometime I will just pick the actual color and use opacity/pen pressure to get the blend I'm looking for, which will still show up as that desaturated color when color picked.
This entire video says things I never knew I needed to hear and GOD it felt cathartic in a sense. Because someone actually debunks this stuff and gives the honest truth.
the blending mode rage is so real lmaooo, the reason I like digital art is because I don't need to go insane about color theory to shade a tiny lil doodle
A tip for custom brushes! Make them solid colors with no "built in" highlights or shading, and then manually shade and highlight. I used this technique (though I am a beginner-mediocre artist) and it looked much more lively and real.
I actually started drawing anime quite recently and have to say your tutorial was the best. I've actually made pieces I'm happy with thanks to your guide. (also good brush pack).
5:16 while I see where you're coming from, blending modes are made to facilitate these effects instead of having to deal with actual color theory. However, I follow a bunch of artists that relay on blending modes very little to none on most of their digital paintings because they understand color theory quite enough to not have to do that. Most of them just use blending modes at the end to add a few details here and there, but it is possible to achive these effects on digital without using blending modes. I feel for beginner artists to go straight into blending modes without understanding why or how they work is not the best practice.😊
Just something I do, when drawing a character sheet, to get both sides I use the symmetry tool so I don't have to draw the thing again at a different angle.
I TOTALLY AGREE with the ‘color theory’ thingy. Like it being use to trick non-artist or beginner-artist. Finally someone talk about this
The power of BLEND MODE not Color theory
The thing with the custom brush is that it makes your draw look like if you copypasted something. You don't copy paste the eyes even if the perspective is the same, it will look exactly the same and it looks bad. Same thing applies to hair, you don't copypaste the lines because it looks repetitive.
The colour theory one is so true, like idgaf about what colours I use to make it match the BG. I just copy the BG (blur it if needed) and then just slap on a blending mode (I usually use overlay/multiply)
Ooohhh! I love the use of Meteor Herd in the intro. Really I love the usage of Sonic Adventure 2 music in this video!
The thing about line Art is, it’s never in my final published pieces unless I’m drawing in a cartoony style. My style is semi realistic, so there usually is no lineart in my final piece. I drop my sketch opacity waaaaaaaayy down to about 30%. I’m colorblind, so I get help with specialized tools, but my work in no way relies on the lineart.
@ 10:30 it's mostly for spread since some people don't know or don't listen to some artists and since there are a lot of teens it's a learning thing since a lot of teens who post and trace get hate and don't understand. My brother for instance is young and posts his speedpaints and he traces and dosent know why he gets hate so seeing those videos from an artist he likes just helps him understand it.. and announcing it just spreads the word IMO but it does get repetetive sometimes 😊
Gripe 1: I think It's good to know the traditional approach to color in case a solar flare happens. I do also think it's pretty funny how with digital art it's heavily simplified due to blending and so people, totally hypothetical people, overthink things like color because they saw an overcomplicated explanation of color relativity that was more interested in physics than actually applying in a piece, which is hypothetical and definitely never happened to me!!!
Gripe 2: Symmetry tool making a character look dead is a good thing if you're making turnarounds, which require neutral expressions, especially if it's gonna be used in a 3D modelling context. Definitely a bad idea for comics and normal illustrations.
A personal bad tip: This may not be relatable to many here as it relates to 3D, but I was doing a sculpt not too long ago and decided to take a youtuber's advice and rely solely on remesh (quickly rebuilding a model at a specified resolution) for sculpting because it's "best for performance". It was not "best for performance". In fact, it basically forced me to stop working on the sculpt because by the time I got to the body, remeshing started to freeze my entire computer. It also fused the characters fingers together, and lost details the video claimed would be preserved. I scrapped the sculpt.
Actually I tend to not use layer effects cause you learn more about how colors work keeping that in mind. You can make it easier by using layer effects, but not doing so just looks better to me, and you have more control over it. It's not the worst thing in the world Imo.
Edit: correction, I don't use them all the time. Rather, if I'm trying to get some coloring done fast I'll just use layer effects.
the sonic adventure 2 music playing in the background is absolute gas. i played that game so many times ughhhhhhh
For symmetry tool i find it best for the sketch then doing the lineart without, that way you can add a little bit of uneveness naturally
9:05 one thing I’ve noticed is how lots of people say that symmetry=Beauty, when that’s not quite true- I find “easy on the eyes,” in a literal sense to be more accurate. Your eyes and brain don’t need to work. (The reason composition is important- you want the eye/attention of the viewer to move purposely through your art, not drift aimlessly, unless that is a deliberate choice)
So in my experience, symmetry is best used in contrast to asymmetry- asymmetry draws attention, and therefore energy (no asymmetry, no energy, looks ’dead’), while symmetry is ‘peaceful’ or even boring, and are good for areas that will “funnel” attention to the asymmetry in your image.
I am still considering myself to be really bad at art, but yknow what I did when I was younger? I have redrawn some fanarts of characters I liked on paper, just by looking at them. And my friend also did the same thing. I think it kinda developed in me a little bit of an understanding of perspective and proportions. And, I have never put what I drew online, cuz obviously, plus I was too bad for that. Though my skills of drawing on paper prob won't help that much on digital art. Whatever. Don't be afraid of tracing someone else, just don't use your traced art as "original don't steal" stuff, might be better for you to try recreate the art, or possibly even the sketch. You may learn how to draw a different pose from tracing someone else.
Tbh i feel like every artist should at least try to learn color theory and not just rely on blending modes, you can use them but learning actual color theory will help you understand WHY those blending modes work and how the colors interact with eachother
No blending mode can save you from bad color choosing, color theory can.
I definitely get your frustration with the color theory tip since it's pretty darn useless if you just use effect layers, HOWEVER it is still useful if you DON'T do that and there is merit to not doin it as sometimes simply putting a single color over a whole canvas can make the colours look more flat and boring. Plus, actually color picking everything instead of using overlays is how stuff was done in older animations (since the technology didn't exist back then) so it helps if you want to emulate those styles as well
I still don't understand fancy layer tricks in digital art programs, so I manually pick all my colors. If it looks wrong, I just change it until it looks more accurate.
Draw the drawing as if it were in neutral lighting. Make a new layer, put it above the rest of the layers. Fill it in with the bucket tool using the color of your choice. Set the layer mode to multiplier or better yet lower its opacity to the desired level. I don't have any more advice lol. Besides you don't need to do as I said. Personally, I think learning how color context works is better than half-assing the lighting in all of your drawings.
With the custom brush thing, they really should paint over that. Saves time to not have to draw the structure, but it needs variation in widths and color.
It's also comparatively over-rendered compared to the rest of the image.
I was one of those kids who heard some rando give art advice and followed it religiously. "dont use black to shade! dont draw anime style before you master realism! make sure you study every possible object/creature/ scenery otherwise you will be bad!" and I hated art, I hated MY art and just... I got better and had way more fun when I just did what I felt like doing. the only GOOD art advice? draw what makes you happy, in whichever way makes you happy. as long as you dont break the law
Yeah, that's some art puritan advice right there. "Don't you DARE draw anime before you master realism" is a surprisingly common piece of advice that I absolutely hate. Sure, study the fundamentals to get a better grasp on how to portray certain things, but you should be learning that stuff in order to achieve your personal art goals. And that means learning the fundamentals while also exploring your own personal style.
You have to be SA2 fan, with your song choices and that shadow picture, you can't hide from me!!
Anyways, great video I'd love to see more of this!
The first clip gets me, I honestly hate painting, but love doing line art.
I really do need to learn the former though.
I definitely HATE when people go so crazy over color theory. The people who make the videos pretend as if color theory is some big skill that they’ve mastered as an artist when in reality they literally just draw something and put a multiply layer over it. I totally agree, its stupid.
Not everyone does that. I have also never seen anyone act as if they're high and mighty for knowing color theory. Mostly just people being confused about why they can't replicate the same effect as other artists or looking at their own stuff and being confused about how their colors ended up looking the way they did.
@@dont_know_my_name i used to see it a whole bunch when it was trending. And also theres literally a tiktok in the video of what im talking abt 😭
@@doodlenoodle8540 That's not what they're doing and you should understand that. They are explaining how it works to people who probably have a hard time grasping it.Yes their antics are a little "weird" but I'm positive that it's with the purpose of comedic effect. I follow their account, it's full of videos explaining things like that to knew artists, and it's all good and fun. Idk what's so confusing to you about the fact that there are infact some people who genuinely wanna understand what color context is and how it works and that's what they're delivering. Not everyone just puts a multiply layer over it because not everyone makes art the same way you or others do. And even if they *do* do that, what exactly is so bad about explaining the mere concept to others? Can you not comprehend that there are people who are actual art beginners?
@@dont_know_my_name u need to calm down. Im not an idiot and i dont think you are either so why tf r u talking to me like i dont understand what im talking abt. Idrc if ppl want to actually use these types of videos for their art!! Im just saying that as a trend its stupid! The “art community” as a whole has made stupid trends over and over again, this is just another one of those so im saying how i feel about it. Maybe you dont get that when im saying, thats fine! Let me put it this way instead. Artists are doing random shit and being loud about it and i just think thats its a little silly. Whats more to that, is i find that a lot of people will caption their videos like “pov: you finally get color theory” or something like that and theyre just using online tools to automatically make their desired lighting/ color effect. Thats what im mad abt. Well not exactly “mad” but a little bothered by it. Fine, the tiktok in the video was “explaining how it works to people who probably have a hard time grasping it” but oh well! I find the trend as a whole “stupid” and you clearly are taking this too seriously. But who am i to be talking lol 😏
@@doodlenoodle8540 Weird emoji you used there at the end but ok.
I'm not taking anything too seriously. There's nothing serious about replying to random people on the internet. There's also nothing serious about complaining about people making doing stupid shit and being loud and proud about it. That's not exclusive to the art community, that's a very all-inclusive thing about the internet in general and sometimes real life too. I simply find both yours and OP's complaining stupid considering it's misdirected and you're complaining about the wrong video bc it reminded you of people who did stupid shit. That's dumb.
10:39 LMAOOOOO also the tiktok says "mimicking shapes is a good practice!!!" and they LITERALLY used that procreate tool to perfect the circle, where tf is the practice then? These ppl just wants to be called based, voice of reason, or feel like a moral jury cuz they never seem to put in practice their own self proclamated "good way" to do something.
I love how passionate he is
Custom brushes don't necessarily have to make the drawing look like less effort was put into a drawing if you know how to form and change your shapes, and edit where it's needed. Custom brushes are really just supposed to help you get the work done faster and more efficiently, they're not meant to do the work for you. You need to know how to manipulate them, and when you do then it would look just as good as if it was hand drawn, they're would still be that pattern but it would be more pleasing.
It was so funny listening to the "color relativity ramble". HSAHs, he said its "pretentious" and "why do they make it look so complicated" and stuff and I'm like... It is heking fundamental color theory... yeah, "the mighty multiply layer" exists, but knowing the actual logical reasoning behind why it works as it does is 10 times more powerful. like, its hekin mind blowing he genuenly believes what he was saying in that part.
Literally... How is saying "red lighting make colour more red" pretentious 💀 and being able to pick colours well to begin with will look soo much better than sticking a blending mode over the top
@@annab4931 YES. YES DAMIT 😭💞 YOu are ActuaLly based 😔🙏 couldn't say it better 💕💕
Yeah- confusing = Bad is a bad mindset for learning anything
@@caraskelton1525 literally yes. ok. yes. like, yes. you are cool.