You also never hear HIM say that anymore now that he is sucking up to the religious zealots in the conservative party harder than Linda Lovelace on an LSD binge.
I never thought it was a bad idea to fire ak47s in the air while screaming god is great until i watched Dennis Miller say "never cry god is great while making him duck by putting gunfire in his direction"
That's what's up, I was around 14 when I really got into watching the show, especially because I hadn't reached highschool where most of my weekends would be taken up by athletic. Good times.
@@sidneysmith8787 Following is a reasonable activity undertaken with perspective and an awareness of context. Stalking is an act of obsession divorced from the results of its actions.
What is your point? That you can be a christian and still have a sense of humor? Congratulations, you are not so delusional as to take jokes seriously. Is that really an achievement?
Gopher Yourself It really depends on the content for me; some people treat comments as "jokes" which are intentionally malicious...and I'm strongly against that.
oh man his comedy is golden, not that I laugh my ass off every time, but it makes me chuckle and think and I'd trade in his political right leaning rants in for this older Dennis Miller any day, I mean I don't want to get off on a rant here but....
Miller is underrated. He has done smart, witty, funny and satirical comedy consistently riveting and entertaining ( and I don't agree politically with him on all "rants"), but he is funnier and wittier than Carlin and not as strident and preachy as Bill Hicks (sometimes was-I still miss that cat-man). At the least you can marvel at his obvious love of the English language and the possibilities it provides for his comedy, i.e., similes, metaphors, hyperbole, sarcasm, understatement, and without a doubt he is the Master of using comparisons to comedic effect, from current celebrities, politicians and institutions to literary, historical and political references, and he has criticized those on both sides of the political fence. Though Norm MacDonald is more "split your sides" funny, Miller is today's great "humorist" and was more deserving of the "Mark Twain Award" than Steve Martin (who is a comedy actor).
One of my favorite Millerisms is from back in this time he was talking about a state capitol saying the confederate flag has nothing to do with slavery and he said “yeah and the swastika is just a plus sign doing a somersault”
You know, I really wish Dennis Miller would quit holding it in, he really needs to release his pent-up feelings and tell us how he really feels, and I wish he still was on TV more often! He rocks my world no matter the subject!
I am a Christian and Jesus is my Savior, BUT Dennis Miller is spot on. The end times have been coming for over 2000 years. Should they happen tomorrow. . .well I guess we'll see. I am a believer and if you can't handle that too damn bad, just don't hound me with why your not. Allow us to agree to disagree and if for any reason any body can't handle that I just got over it. God Bless Y'ALL.
I once dated a woman whose parents would not let her see the movie Aladdin when she was a kid because they did not like the presence of magic in the movie (the genie, the magic carpet, the lamp). Talk about zealouts!!
@glennheston You can't even be totally sure something will happen with physics. There are always outside variables that are unknown or unaccounted for. Ergo, one makes the building, trusting it will stand. Just because they had faith it could absorb adequate shocks, doesn't mean it will withstand any earthquake. But they press on knowing they made it the best they could and they trust it will be able to persist based on past experience and relevant data and calculations.
Hi dennis where the hell did you go? I used to be a follower, but you dissapeared on us, Thank god for youtube, it cuts through a lot of shit, Rant on man
@CambridgeHeights If your religion is true, you shouldn't HAVE to force it on people. It should be so blindingly obvious, there should be no other tenable choice. That there are so many thousands of sects within different ideologies speaks volumes.
@Tredicity I agree, but only if there weren't Pegasus teachings. If there was a Pegasus Bible out there that was supposedly the word of Pegasus, then you'd still have to differ to those who followed it and studied it. It's called canon--the definitive way of understanding it. In a sense though I do differ to your point. I do know God only in-so-much as he's revealed himself through his word. Of course man in this world can't fully understand the infinite, but we don't need to.
Fanatics bring such a bad name to religion. Every time that I have had a discussion with an atheist, they criticize everything that is done by fanatics, not by true followers of religion. By trying to impose their beliefs, not only do they miss out on loving others and growing spiritually, but they also make non-believers hate religion... perhaps that is why so many people nowadays hate religion so strongly.
@Tredicity But my point is still that you can't argue your interpretation of what is written when Christianity itself has studied and said what it means. That's why we condemn evil men and women protesting outside soldier's funerals. And as I've tried to say to glennheston, there is a measure of faith that goes into it. Ultimately, it is up to each individual whether he believes and accepts it as truth, or rejects it as falsehood. As Aquinas said, it's reason and revelation. Faith and the mind.
@trier4952 So, he was funny when he was pointing out conservative absurdities, but not when he points out liberal absurdities? I thought he was funny both ways, he still aims an honest eye at our world.
@Tredicity I respect you for your respect as well. Many atheists and rationalists make it their life's work to destroy anyone who holds faith. Many times it doesn't matter. I do my math just as well. But why do you assume I haven't put my religion to the test? I've walked many roads, and thought many thoughts. Reason led me to believe there is a god, and things that have happened in my life have pointed me to Christ as that god. As we've said, reason can account for so much.
@Tredicity Being metaphors, the verse in Luke used the image of a king slaying his enemies to illustrate the image of Christ judging the world and throwing his enemies into Hell (true death). The same with Revelation. You're the one interpreting. I'm telling you what it means. If you are unable to understand simple metaphor, I can only try to help you see past them. In this weak age where people don't like to take a moral stand, I can see where the concept of judgment is foreign to you.
Similar to Bill Maher, but the other way. I find it interesting that watching the both of them early on you can definitively see where their opinions listed (left/right), but they still were open about what they were saying. Now you have both sides ossified into some unholy and imagined dichotomy. It's difficult to lay blame for something like that, but a combination of Bush followed by Obama is probably the reason. They are/were both very polarizing.
I appreciate Miller's rant here. But it really highlights the shame that is his shift to a party whose only two pillars are ungoverned corporate greed and religious fanaticism. The worst part about it all, as other have pointed out here, is that he's no longer funny. Miller was funny and likeable because, whether you agreed or disagree with his take, you could tell it came from the heart. Now he has to contort every joke into fitting the Faux News crowd. Pity.
@Tredicity You can't take a sentence out of context. This line is part of a parable. It uses a situation to show a truth. Here it stated that God set up Christ as king, but he went away from the kingdom for a while and entrusted his servants to take care of it. On Judgement Day in the future, he will return and there will be an accounting. He'll reward his servants according to what they've done, and his enemies will be cast into Hell. It say what he WILL do, not what we should do now. Got more?
@mikeisapro Am I the only one who understood llama? Geez, dude, don't tell him to get "off that horse" before you take down your defenses. He merely said people not ready to accept (read, "not in a state of mind open to accepting...") a religion, won't accept a religion. Don't jump the gun to be offended. Use those "basic rational and critical thinking abilities" to analyze a statement fully beforehand.
@glennheston That's not it at all. It's not hard. We'll try it without metaphor, since you can't look past it. Listen: I believe something will happen based on what is expected to happen and past experience. Just because I expect something to happen (have faith/trust it will) doesn't mean it will. But I press forward in the action assuming that the expected will happen. You have faith in the work you do on your car. You trust you've tightened the nut adequately. Why? Because you expect it to be.
@DaveDooval You see, that's not the point. The point is he tried and failed. Badly. Now when someone puts their work onto the airwaves they are craving for a reaction, positive or negative. And he got one out of me. Just not the one I think he was going for. I don't have the produce anything to be able to criticize it, just like I don't have to produce anything to appreciate something either. Comedy is an open form of expression and it's purposes is to elicit further open forms of expression.
@Tredicity So in effect a sub-point of yours is correct--people can take things out of context and use them for violent aims (as you have done with those scriptures, only you use them for the accusation of violent aims). But, you have not the authority to claim that those scriptures are violent, because 2000 years of Christianity states they are not advocating violence, but are metaphors to convey a point. Just because people can take things a certain way, doesn't mean it's the correct meaning.
@Tredicity Ah, I see. But you still misunderstand. That verse was a message to the church at Thyatira. The woman was a prophetess who was misleading the church into doing things forbidden by God. Often times, adultery was likened to idol worship, since God is the true "husband". As such, people who helped her message were committing adultery by forsaking God, and Christ said the followers of those ways ("children") would face judgment. In other words, he wouldn't turn a blind eye to their sins.
@CambridgeHeights There is no true religion without the burden of truth. Some me proof without using the religious text of your religion, and ill believe.
@Tredicity I can know. Read Plato. Just because I haven't become a table, doesn't mean I can't understand what a table is. Furthermore, as a Christian, I know God to be the God written of in the Bible. As such, I know Scripture to be his spoken word -- his revelation of himself to us. We Christians live our lives studying what he has said. You think in your 20+ years you can undermine 5000+ years of Jewish and Christian thought and understanding? You're the outsider who doesn't understand.
@durbansouthafrica Well, I was in high school, but you have to look at every situation in it's time (we needed an ally against Iran....still do). Once he gets too big for his britches, take him out. My point was that killing Saddam had nothing to do with "religion", and everything to do with justice.
im not sure what he is talking about.....since christianity is not a religion he must be talking about the buddhist, muslims, or maybe the mormons? I wish he was more clear and to the point.
@glennheston I would say only someone suffering OCD wouldn't have faith their car was working properly. Do you pull over every 5 minutes and prove everything is safe? You take for granted (meaning "trust' or "have faith") that things that are expected to happen will happen. That's why "surprise" is defined as something out of the ordinary that you didn't expect. Are you so afraid of giving any credence to any religion that you now sacrifice common sense for arguing semantics and the absurd?
@Tredicity Your point about canon: true to a point, but there are plenty of notions that are defined as heresy among all denominations. Your propositions being some of them. There are clear-cut doctrines. I agree only that people can make anything out to mean what it want them to. But what's true is the meaning the speaker wanted to convey, and I've explained what Christ was saying. Whoever tries to justify violence through them is clearly wrong, and Christianity does not condone it.
@@seandan7873 neither justified nor condemned. God gave laws determining how slaves were to be treated (far from chattel slavery, which I supposed you're loading the term with), never commanding that slaves be taken. and Paul wrote to not rebel against the situation if one were a slave, but to seek every legal mode of becoming free if the opportunity presented itself. read for yourself.
@Tredicity Faith was the recognition of Christ as the deity that I've come to believe existed. It's submission to something higher than you. A daily act. You said: " I beseech you accept that one way to ensure this violence is never actualised is to disregard and denigrate organised religion itself." I wholeheartedly disagree. Organised religion plays a role in halting violent heresies from popping up. It's where people like me come from, who argue against heresy and set straight the truth.
i think his references are difficult to grasp for the average person,get a dictionary and listen to this(several times,if necessary) while you translate it and you may find the humor.i find it extremely intelligent and funny.
Adam and Eve had 3 sons, average lifespan was about 20 so how could a 500 year old man build an ark? So to me religion makes as much sense as using a pyromaniac to fix your furnace
@glennheston Reason dictates that someone not believing in a god hasn't accepted the god, does it not? You can't accept something and not at the same time. You haven't accepted a god, therefore you don't believe in a god. Just like I haven't accepted string theory, therefore I don't believe in it. Any belief in a god needs a measure of faith. I can't prove my brake pads are always on my car, but I have faith they will stop my car when I push the pedal. I don't really know what your point is...
@Tredicity Then read Descartes as well. Your point fails. Pegasus doesn't exist, but I understand that. You can interpret many things to say exactly what you want them to say, which is what you are doing. You're twisting my Scripture to say what you want it to say, despite my telling you what it really means. There's a reason you paste one "shocking" line as "evidence", and not the whole passage in context. The less people read, the less likely they are to understand and question your point.
@Tredicity Careful, you're admitting Jesus Christ exists. If he doesn't, then it's not murder because he doesn't exist to carry it out. Two things: 1.) YOU are the outsider here. I don't explain fluid dynamics to a civil engineer, and an atheist can't explain Christianity to a Christian. I'm explaining the metaphor to YOU. 2.) If Christ exists, he is God, and therefore the giver of life. He alone contains the essence of being, and he gave it to us. So, he can't murder if life is his to give.
@Tredicity ...and? He won't abide sin. He won't abide others coming in a corrupting the church. What's your point? Rage's point still stands -- Jesus said He'd deal with the sinner, as opposed to other "prophets" advocating the slaughter of non-believers. I think you missed the mark on that one...
@glennheston Take a hint from Tredicity and realize that civil debate is based on reason and arguments, not petty slander and half-formed thoughts. Try to disprove my argument instead of trying to nullify it by calling me an idiot. That makes you look ill-bred. If science worked as you say it does, we'd live in a perfect world. Buildings collapse, bridges crumble, things break. Read up on disasters like Fukushima, the Challenger, that Oakland double-deck bridge in the 1990s.
I miss this Dennis Miller.
Me too, he is a genius!
You don't like his politics even though he is liberal, just "not liberal enough" for you. So now he is not your favorite version of himself.
I love how Dennis Miller ends his rants with, "Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong."
You never hear religious people say that. :)
There are plenty of religious people who would say that you generalizing bigot.
You also never hear HIM say that anymore now that he is sucking up to the religious zealots in the conservative party harder than Linda Lovelace on an LSD binge.
I never thought it was a bad idea to fire ak47s in the air while screaming god is great until i watched Dennis Miller say "never cry god is great while making him duck by putting gunfire in his direction"
I'm religious, and that is one of my favorite phrases. Being religious does not necessarily mean being convinced of one's intellectual infallibility.
@@OptimusNiaa No, being convinced of one's intellectual infallibility is called being liberal.
I did not know this man could be this good.
It was such a simpler time back then. I loved watching this every Friday night as a young man.
Me to. I was about 17 or 18 and I would watch him when I got home from the skating rink with my friends.
That's what's up, I was around 14 when I really got into watching the show, especially because I hadn't reached highschool where most of my weekends would be taken up by athletic. Good times.
I love it when Dennis delivers a good one and he pauses to laugh to himself.
"There's a difference between following Jesus and stalking him!" bloody brilliant!
I love it when he backs up and glances up at the lights. What a genius.
"There's a difference between following Jesus and stalking him!"
Priceless and right on!
I'm sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense. Could you explain it to this commoner?
@@sidneysmith8787 Following is a reasonable activity undertaken with perspective and an awareness of context. Stalking is an act of obsession divorced from the results of its actions.
"I'm in show business. My soul took the red eye out of here years ago." LOL!
Dennis knows his destination. Refreshing honesty.
Dennis Miller I'm glad you are honest.
The two best comedians with the best outlooks on life that I agree with: Dennis Miller and George Carlin.
I agree. Ricky Gervais, Lewis Black and Richard Pryor are also great!
I'm a Christian, and that crack about Jerry Falwell made me laugh.
What is your point? That you can be a christian and still have a sense of humor? Congratulations, you are not so delusional as to take jokes seriously. Is that really an achievement?
Gopher Yourself
It really depends on the content for me; some people treat comments as "jokes" which are intentionally malicious...and I'm strongly against that.
Gopher Yourself wow...douche
Loved what he said about Jerry Falwell lmfao!!
oh man his comedy is golden, not that I laugh my ass off every time, but it makes me chuckle and think and I'd trade in his political right leaning rants in for this older Dennis Miller any day, I mean I don't want to get off on a rant here but....
Miller is underrated. He has done smart, witty, funny and satirical comedy consistently riveting and entertaining ( and I don't agree politically with him on all "rants"), but he is funnier and wittier than Carlin and not as strident and preachy as Bill Hicks (sometimes was-I still miss that cat-man). At the least you can marvel at his obvious love of the English language and the possibilities it provides for his comedy, i.e., similes, metaphors, hyperbole, sarcasm, understatement, and without a doubt he is the Master of using comparisons to comedic effect, from current celebrities, politicians and institutions to literary, historical and political references, and he has criticized those on both sides of the political fence. Though Norm MacDonald is more "split your sides" funny, Miller is today's great "humorist" and was more deserving of the "Mark Twain Award" than Steve Martin (who is a comedy actor).
Miller had great writers on his HBO show. Too bad about is breakdown in '01 :-(.
Probably tied directly to your own.
Can we have this Dennis Miller back please? Kind of ironic how he is bagging the people who he now represents.
He had an epiphany after 9/11. A lot of us did. At least you can enjoy the fact that you have Trevor Noah.
Dennis was so fucking edgy and awesome in the 90s and early 2000s before he sold his soul to Faux News.
One of my favorite Millerisms is from back in this time he was talking about a state capitol saying the confederate flag has nothing to do with slavery and he said “yeah and the swastika is just a plus sign doing a somersault”
Back in a time when you could offend somebody, Dennis Miller shines brightly. Mister X
@timinqueue
Are you talking about the same Dennis Miller going on tour with Bill "Tide goes in, Tide goes out" O'Reilly?
and then a few years later he becomes a Fox News stooge
Well said and comically accurate, don’t laugh too hard and miss the point.
You know, I really wish Dennis Miller would quit holding it in, he really needs to release his pent-up feelings and tell us how he really feels, and I wish he still was on TV more often! He rocks my world no matter the subject!
I am a Christian and Jesus is my Savior, BUT Dennis Miller is spot on. The end times have been coming for over 2000 years. Should they happen tomorrow. . .well I guess we'll see. I am a believer and if you can't handle that too damn bad, just don't hound me with why your not. Allow us to agree to disagree and if for any reason any body can't handle that I just got over it. God Bless Y'ALL.
I LIKED him when he was liberal and I was oblivious.
I LOVE him now that he's conservative and I'm a RWE.
Dennis is always spot on
I once dated a woman whose parents would not let her see the movie Aladdin when she was a kid because they did not like the presence of magic in the movie (the genie, the magic carpet, the lamp). Talk about zealouts!!
Religion! Man's invention, and inevitable downfall...
very relevant in today's world, sorry us
to act on faith is to shut the eye of reason ..
great line
I may post that on FB and credit him with it
WAS anyone ever born as clever as Dennis Miller believes he is?
He's fucking right. Sorry you don't like it.
Yes. Dennis Miller! Duh!
AMEN Rev Miller.
Amen brother!
@glennheston You can't even be totally sure something will happen with physics. There are always outside variables that are unknown or unaccounted for. Ergo, one makes the building, trusting it will stand. Just because they had faith it could absorb adequate shocks, doesn't mean it will withstand any earthquake. But they press on knowing they made it the best they could and they trust it will be able to persist based on past experience and relevant data and calculations.
This cat used to be beautiful and babies...I'm diggin' it.
That was great!!!! I'd even say as great as Carlin!!!!!!!
Hi dennis where the hell did you go? I used to be a follower, but you dissapeared on us, Thank god for youtube, it cuts through a lot of shit, Rant on man
I'm absolutely Christian, but I agree with Miller. Forcing religion on others, especially those not ready to except it, is just annoying.
@CambridgeHeights If your religion is true, you shouldn't HAVE to force it on people. It should be so blindingly obvious, there should be no other tenable choice. That there are so many thousands of sects within different ideologies speaks volumes.
@Tredicity I agree, but only if there weren't Pegasus teachings. If there was a Pegasus Bible out there that was supposedly the word of Pegasus, then you'd still have to differ to those who followed it and studied it. It's called canon--the definitive way of understanding it. In a sense though I do differ to your point. I do know God only in-so-much as he's revealed himself through his word. Of course man in this world can't fully understand the infinite, but we don't need to.
Fanatics bring such a bad name to religion. Every time that I have had a discussion with an atheist, they criticize everything that is done by fanatics, not by true followers of religion. By trying to impose their beliefs, not only do they miss out on loving others and growing spiritually, but they also make non-believers hate religion... perhaps that is why so many people nowadays hate religion so strongly.
Dennis Miller is still hilarious. Note: HBO DM Special #8.
Dennis Miller, before he found hid faith in.....Jesus! He is a funny guy!
@llamaBPpotatoFT You spelled accept wrong.
"I'm in showbusiness: my soul took the red-eye out of here years ago." wink -wink-
@jmack619
you really dont know where he's been? Dennis has a frequent spot on the O'Rielly Factor.
*sigh* how far the mighty have fallen.
I was at a junkyard one day to buy a part for my truck, a guy who worked there tried to get me to go to his church, I was like WTF
hist strength has always been writing, his bathrobe sessions are hilarious, his radio show has lots and lots of breaks and very short segments :(
@jmack619 he's on the A.M. radio, man. Check him out if you dig Miller.
@Tredicity But my point is still that you can't argue your interpretation of what is written when Christianity itself has studied and said what it means. That's why we condemn evil men and women protesting outside soldier's funerals. And as I've tried to say to glennheston, there is a measure of faith that goes into it. Ultimately, it is up to each individual whether he believes and accepts it as truth, or rejects it as falsehood. As Aquinas said, it's reason and revelation. Faith and the mind.
@trier4952 So, he was funny when he was pointing out conservative absurdities, but not when he points out liberal absurdities? I thought he was funny both ways, he still aims an honest eye at our world.
The problem is is that they never shut the .... up.
I had a lady say "God bless you."
I responded "which one"?
Guess which one of us got a talking to.
That is 100% right, they would disappear faster than Willie Nelson at a DEA convention!!!!.
@Tredicity I respect you for your respect as well. Many atheists and rationalists make it their life's work to destroy anyone who holds faith. Many times it doesn't matter. I do my math just as well. But why do you assume I haven't put my religion to the test? I've walked many roads, and thought many thoughts. Reason led me to believe there is a god, and things that have happened in my life have pointed me to Christ as that god. As we've said, reason can account for so much.
@shummel121 he was more balanced back in his HBO days.
I totally agree!
@Tredicity Being metaphors, the verse in Luke used the image of a king slaying his enemies to illustrate the image of Christ judging the world and throwing his enemies into Hell (true death). The same with Revelation. You're the one interpreting. I'm telling you what it means. If you are unable to understand simple metaphor, I can only try to help you see past them. In this weak age where people don't like to take a moral stand, I can see where the concept of judgment is foreign to you.
Similar to Bill Maher, but the other way. I find it interesting that watching the both of them early on you can definitively see where their opinions listed (left/right), but they still were open about what they were saying. Now you have both sides ossified into some unholy and imagined dichotomy.
It's difficult to lay blame for something like that, but a combination of Bush followed by Obama is probably the reason. They are/were both very polarizing.
"'course that's just my opinion, could be wrong"
@jmack619 he has a radio show
Amen
I appreciate Miller's rant here. But it really highlights the shame that is his shift to a party whose only two pillars are ungoverned corporate greed and religious fanaticism. The worst part about it all, as other have pointed out here, is that he's no longer funny. Miller was funny and likeable because, whether you agreed or disagree with his take, you could tell it came from the heart. Now he has to contort every joke into fitting the Faux News crowd. Pity.
train of thought too much for football fans
@Tredicity You can't take a sentence out of context. This line is part of a parable. It uses a situation to show a truth. Here it stated that God set up Christ as king, but he went away from the kingdom for a while and entrusted his servants to take care of it. On Judgement Day in the future, he will return and there will be an accounting. He'll reward his servants according to what they've done, and his enemies will be cast into Hell. It say what he WILL do, not what we should do now. Got more?
@mikeisapro Am I the only one who understood llama? Geez, dude, don't tell him to get "off that horse" before you take down your defenses. He merely said people not ready to accept (read, "not in a state of mind open to accepting...") a religion, won't accept a religion. Don't jump the gun to be offended. Use those "basic rational and critical thinking abilities" to analyze a statement fully beforehand.
@glennheston That's not it at all. It's not hard. We'll try it without metaphor, since you can't look past it. Listen: I believe something will happen based on what is expected to happen and past experience. Just because I expect something to happen (have faith/trust it will) doesn't mean it will. But I press forward in the action assuming that the expected will happen. You have faith in the work you do on your car. You trust you've tightened the nut adequately. Why? Because you expect it to be.
@timinqueue What were you doing about America's support of this jerk in the 1980s, at a time when the jerk was committing the worst of his crimes?
You is a funny guy Dennis....My azz is laughin' so hard that my spinkter shut down!?!?
“…. I am morally obligated by the elders of my church to tell you to SHUT..THE…FUCK…UP! Can I get an ‘Amen’?…”
Dennis is complex in his comedic approach. He values the old ways but sees the hypocrisy.
@DaveDooval You see, that's not the point. The point is he tried and failed. Badly. Now when someone puts their work onto the airwaves they are craving for a reaction, positive or negative. And he got one out of me. Just not the one I think he was going for. I don't have the produce anything to be able to criticize it, just like I don't have to produce anything to appreciate something either. Comedy is an open form of expression and it's purposes is to elicit further open forms of expression.
amen.
@Tredicity So in effect a sub-point of yours is correct--people can take things out of context and use them for violent aims (as you have done with those scriptures, only you use them for the accusation of violent aims). But, you have not the authority to claim that those scriptures are violent, because 2000 years of Christianity states they are not advocating violence, but are metaphors to convey a point. Just because people can take things a certain way, doesn't mean it's the correct meaning.
@Tredicity Ah, I see. But you still misunderstand. That verse was a message to the church at Thyatira. The woman was a prophetess who was misleading the church into doing things forbidden by God. Often times, adultery was likened to idol worship, since God is the true "husband". As such, people who helped her message were committing adultery by forsaking God, and Christ said the followers of those ways ("children") would face judgment. In other words, he wouldn't turn a blind eye to their sins.
...What does "rant" mean?
@CambridgeHeights There is no true religion without the burden of truth. Some me proof without using the religious text of your religion, and ill believe.
RANT BABY RANT DUDE
@Tredicity I can know. Read Plato. Just because I haven't become a table, doesn't mean I can't understand what a table is. Furthermore, as a Christian, I know God to be the God written of in the Bible. As such, I know Scripture to be his spoken word -- his revelation of himself to us. We Christians live our lives studying what he has said. You think in your 20+ years you can undermine 5000+ years of Jewish and Christian thought and understanding? You're the outsider who doesn't understand.
@durbansouthafrica
Well, I was in high school, but you have to look at every situation in it's time (we needed an ally against Iran....still do). Once he gets too big for his britches, take him out. My point was that killing Saddam had nothing to do with "religion", and everything to do with justice.
1:39 I was stunned when he said his soul took the Red-Eye long time ago. That's sad. There's still time for him to return to His Father. :*^{
Might want to listen to the actual message of the rant... you might just apply. Besides, relax... he is bending over for them these days.
Miller may be a Republican, but it is cool to see that he doesn't blindly agree with everything they tend to stand for.
im not sure what he is talking about.....since christianity is not a religion he must be talking about the buddhist, muslims, or maybe the mormons? I wish he was more clear and to the point.
@glennheston I would say only someone suffering OCD wouldn't have faith their car was working properly. Do you pull over every 5 minutes and prove everything is safe? You take for granted (meaning "trust' or "have faith") that things that are expected to happen will happen. That's why "surprise" is defined as something out of the ordinary that you didn't expect. Are you so afraid of giving any credence to any religion that you now sacrifice common sense for arguing semantics and the absurd?
glossy shine. hehe
@Tredicity Your point about canon: true to a point, but there are plenty of notions that are defined as heresy among all denominations. Your propositions being some of them. There are clear-cut doctrines. I agree only that people can make anything out to mean what it want them to. But what's true is the meaning the speaker wanted to convey, and I've explained what Christ was saying. Whoever tries to justify violence through them is clearly wrong, and Christianity does not condone it.
... slavery however, totally justified by "the book"
@@seandan7873 neither justified nor condemned. God gave laws determining how slaves were to be treated (far from chattel slavery, which I supposed you're loading the term with), never commanding that slaves be taken. and Paul wrote to not rebel against the situation if one were a slave, but to seek every legal mode of becoming free if the opportunity presented itself. read for yourself.
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@Tredicity Faith was the recognition of Christ as the deity that I've come to believe existed. It's submission to something higher than you. A daily act. You said: " I beseech you accept that one way to ensure this violence is never actualised is to disregard and denigrate organised religion itself." I wholeheartedly disagree. Organised religion plays a role in halting violent heresies from popping up. It's where people like me come from, who argue against heresy and set straight the truth.
@BunkerGearGal He ain't that "hard right"... He's still pro choice, pro gay-marriage, etc. He's more of a libertarian.
i think his references are difficult to grasp for the average person,get a dictionary and listen to this(several times,if necessary) while you translate it and you may find the humor.i find it extremely intelligent and funny.
St Pauli you must watch Rick and Morty lol.
Sad that Miller decided to go to the dark side. He was damn funny and on point years ago.
Please follow the right path your not following it
Adam and Eve had 3 sons, average lifespan was about 20 so how could a 500 year old man build an ark? So to me religion makes as much sense as using a pyromaniac to fix your furnace
@glennheston Reason dictates that someone not believing in a god hasn't accepted the god, does it not? You can't accept something and not at the same time. You haven't accepted a god, therefore you don't believe in a god. Just like I haven't accepted string theory, therefore I don't believe in it. Any belief in a god needs a measure of faith. I can't prove my brake pads are always on my car, but I have faith they will stop my car when I push the pedal. I don't really know what your point is...
@glennheston One word Glenn -- Thesaurus.
@Tredicity Then read Descartes as well. Your point fails. Pegasus doesn't exist, but I understand that. You can interpret many things to say exactly what you want them to say, which is what you are doing. You're twisting my Scripture to say what you want it to say, despite my telling you what it really means. There's a reason you paste one "shocking" line as "evidence", and not the whole passage in context. The less people read, the less likely they are to understand and question your point.
gh3rulz69 I could not have said it better myself....
@Tredicity Careful, you're admitting Jesus Christ exists. If he doesn't, then it's not murder because he doesn't exist to carry it out. Two things: 1.) YOU are the outsider here. I don't explain fluid dynamics to a civil engineer, and an atheist can't explain Christianity to a Christian. I'm explaining the metaphor to YOU. 2.) If Christ exists, he is God, and therefore the giver of life. He alone contains the essence of being, and he gave it to us. So, he can't murder if life is his to give.
@Tredicity ...and? He won't abide sin. He won't abide others coming in a corrupting the church. What's your point? Rage's point still stands -- Jesus said He'd deal with the sinner, as opposed to other "prophets" advocating the slaughter of non-believers. I think you missed the mark on that one...
@glennheston Take a hint from Tredicity and realize that civil debate is based on reason and arguments, not petty slander and half-formed thoughts. Try to disprove my argument instead of trying to nullify it by calling me an idiot. That makes you look ill-bred. If science worked as you say it does, we'd live in a perfect world. Buildings collapse, bridges crumble, things break. Read up on disasters like Fukushima, the Challenger, that Oakland double-deck bridge in the 1990s.