Levi Clark Yeah, I know who is . I’ve been a boxing fan since I was eleven...I’m sixty! My father sparred with Graziano and trained myself and four other brothers.
Gordon Payne You missed Ali’s greatest weapon..his MIND! His ability to adapt strategy and incorporate movement to negate and throw off balance his opponents are overlooked by everyone but his trainer and opposition.
@David Mc I never even saw the comment. I also initiated it with a smart alecky remark so no worries. I appreciate the advice about the philly shell defense.
I’m glad Stewart mentioned Foreman because he (Foreman) has never gotten received the due credit he truly deserves. Unbelievable punching power, could also take a punch-as he proved during his fights with Evander Holyfield and Ron Lyle. Granted, his style wasn’t pretty (Ali nicknamed him “the mummy”) but he got the job done. Bottom line: 76-5 record during the Golden Age of boxing and then regaining the heavyweight title at 45 years of age, says all you need to know about this guy.🥊
I will say this Emmanuel Steward was like a professor of boxing and one of the top ten greatest trainers of all time everyone he worked with improved and a lot were already great fighters, RIP Manny the boxing world is much poorer for your loss 🙏!.
Wladimir Klitschko was great too. When he had his run and was on top of his game he was a beast. And he was a great sportsman and a great role model. He never cursed on TV, never was involved in any scandals, never fouled, never excessively traded insults with anyone, etc, he was always a class act and a model sportsman
Ali beat Forman in his prime when Ali was not in his prime. Ali beat Norton 2 out of 3 times. Norton in his prime but Ali was not in his prime. Same with Fraizer,Lyle, Shavers and the rest. Ali beat hall of famers in their primes when he was outside of his prime. Thats impressive..Ali the greatest R.I.P
I've always said that Foreman and Holmes don't get enough respect and that they're probably both in the top 3 or 4, crazy that I've only just seen this video now of Steward saying the same thing.
El Pueblo Unido Fury is good, but who’s he actually fought? A 39 year old Klitschko, who even on his best day I would expect would get sparked by Foreman, or Wilder? I mean Wilder compared to Foreman, really? After those two we’re looking at Chisoras and Hammers, who really are not worth mentioning in the same breath as Foreman. This is a guy that carries ridiculous power in every punch and has a very good chin, his boxing ability isn’t the best, but compared to some of the heavyweights today, he’d probs be one of the best technical boxers out there.
@@TheMaster47x of course Foreman fought better fighters, I say that Tyson would beat him due to size. The size difference between old heavyweights and new ones is abnormal. Foreman was 191 cms tall, 220 lbs when he fought Ali, Tyson is 206 cms tall, 270+ libs of meat that can bring the fight to you or outboxe you from the distance. Size matters man. Plus I dont accept the 39 years old speculation about the fight with Big Klit. Klit was undefeated in the last 11 YEARS!! ELEVEN! And Tyson outoboxed him in his home, so he deserve big credit for that. And he deserve big credit for beating Wilder AT HIS OWN GAME in his home too! So those 2 are already 2 career defining wins, Tyson is just unlucky that he don't live in the Ali era. He would outsize em all for me
Aye, consulting Emanual Steward on boxing is like consulting Moses on God. I can scarcely think of a better person to talk about boxing with... except perhaps Cus d'amato..
The most important roll of a trainer is to protect there fighter. He made his fighters spar everyday, therefore they are all dead or punch drunk He was a terrible trainer
Wrong. He was a loud mouth POS and currently resides in Hell because of his Muslim faith. Know Jesus, know peace. No Jesus, no peace. Ali can most assuredly agree to that now.
@@Tonyconner74 The only thing in my comment up for debate is whether or not you or anyone thinks he's a piece of shit. I personally did think he was. Zero debate on whether or not he was a loud mouth. And if you think I'm wrong about him being in Hell for his Muslim faith, then you are well on your way there too for not knowing what the Bible says about non believers in Jesus Christ as Lord.
@@tombstone1111 Complete conjecture on your part you have no idea where Ali is or do you have no knowledge of where you or I are going if you do show your proof not your arrogance!....
@@Tonyconner74 Read the Bible. Either you believe the word of God or you don't. Forever is too long to be wrong, but you have free will to believe whatever you want to believe. Hey, I'm the biggest Mike Tyson fan out there but he converted to Muslim while in prison and I believe that because of that choice, he will be in Hell too. I don't wish Hell on my worst enemy. I think if it is indeed real, which I believe it is, it's the most over the top thing in the universe and I totally disagree with God about sending anybody there. But it's all there in black and white, whether you choose to believe or not.
second greatest boxer George Foreman. why not ? he knocked out undefeated Joe Frazier . he knocked out Ken Norton and lyle. and 45 years old man become champion again against moor who was undefeated and 25 years old .
@James Lee I do not think that Holmes could beat Foreman . he was so big and strong , and Holmes did not have chin or energy to dodgy Foreman's heavy punches.
@Tattle Boad what makes me crazy is that smoking Joe Frazier was blind in his left eye . can you imagine? and some people complaint that Ali was past his prime . i got no idea how just become 29 years old man could be out of shape if he does not want too?
@highspeedtubing YES Ali was a terrible person with a low IQ and because of his disgusting faith in the false Prophet Muhammad he has been burning and suffering greatly in Hell since the second he died. Good riddance. And btw, the MOST overrated athlete, not just fighter, in sports history. You buffoons that fall all over Ali need to do your homework and realize that he was nowhere near the "Greatest", a word or description he made into absolute blasphemy.
Keena Yeah your stupid he will forever be the greatest, great person with good intentions to uplift others just stop saying dumb stuff when you don’t know what he boxed for
Hell of a good man I met him when I was 16 years old at the Kronk Gym Tommy Hearns walked up to me and showed me how to throw a jab then I went in the Marine Corps and I got out of the Marine Corps eight years later and he’s a world champion and a trainer at World Champion
I agree with Emanuel Steward's rating of Ali.In fact if I am not mistaken Ali's era was the greatest with talent, including those that could not win heavyweight titles,which helped propel him up to dizzying heights.During Ali's time there were Liston,Patterson,De John,Quarry,Bonavena,Chuvalo,Shavers,Ellis,Foreman,Norton,Frazier,Mathis etc.
He said Marciano was knocked down a lot but he'd only been knocked down twice in 49 fights and Not hurt either time. I think more often than not size makes a difference but with a low sideways crouch and sheer unnatural punching power I think he could hold his own with anyone win or lose.
@November Reign yes, heavyweights got bigger...many of them used and use roids as well ! As a fighter...Rocky was unmatched...he would remove you from ur senses in a heartbeart...a pure beast, and a real warrior...good to see you appreciate him for what he was.
Marciano is the go to example for the saying that 'Boxing is 90 percent mental' Not that I think you can quantify something as nebulus as being game as fuck to fight, it goes to show how far it can take you.
He said marciano knocked down a lot but there are only 2 knock downs to speak of in his career and that was Archie Moore and joe Walcott. Also he'd fought numerous men well over 200 with the heaviest 2 being bill wilson 230lbs, johnny shkor 220lbs and 1 other that was 254 but can't remember his name
@what. nbba I have to disagree with Walcott hitting harder than louis, Louis ko ratio at around 75% with even more fights is a testament to that but Walcott did have much better foot work and was a better defensive fighter and savier.
Ya it can always be changed, Ali, Louis foreman, Tyson, Holmes...... Definitely no Fury, Joshua nor Wilder in that list. Fury has to dominate first ( reign for a long time and the division needs quality boxers coz this is a disservice to the few good ones who are measured on the quality of their opponents)
It’s a shame so many of the people making comments on here are not real students of boxing. Many of the comments here are based on personal favorites or emotions. Clearly many of you did not watch heavyweight boxing between 1970-1985. Many of the ridiculous names I see here like Tyson Fury would not have even been in the top 10 of that time...
I did watch boxing in this period and agree pretty much with what you say but I think Fury would have been possibly top ten. Defeating Deonte Wilder certainly isn't enough to justify that but all the same I think you might be underrating him a bit.
Emanuel Stewart is GOAT when it comes to Boxing Trainers. And very astute at identifying talent and ability. He has an amazing championship fight record as trainer - I think he was 9-0 in Heavyweight championship fights. That is some record. He was not much of a talker but whatever he said came true. He predicted Fury and Wilder would be world champs way before we even knew who these two were - He could foresee things in Boxing. There have been other great trainers - Some old wise heads. But for training and preparing a Boxer to win championship fights, no one else even comes close. Emanuel Stewart is to Boxing Trainers what Ali is to Boxers! RIP
There you have it, if you truly are a boxing enthusiast then Emmanuel steward must be taken seriously, his line up is unquestionably apt, 1. Ali, 2. Joe Lewis, Larry Holmes and Lennox Lewis, and he was right about big George Foreman, he's underappreciated but definitely deserve to be in the top 5 greats of all time.
3:18 He was only knocked down twice. The only times he was cut badly were in the Walcott fight where he was blinded for 4 rounds by medication that got into his eyes, and in the 2 Charles fights. Charles was especially good at cutting anybody, and the 2nd time with Marciano was by an accidental elbow.
Agree with Foreman being mentioned ranked below Ali & Louis. The guy was a priest for 10 years and re-entered the ring at 46 years of age to Kapow a 26-year old. Will never forget that moment when Michael Buffer announced the decision at the end of the fight.
Ali was the greatest, Emanuel Stewart raised some excellent points, a Man of great knowledge, he demands respect, I'm a guy who watched and saw all the great fights from the 1970s, I have always said If Mike Tyson was around in the 1970s he would have been a nobody, he would have been a punch- bag for the class of the 1970s.
J. Mahoney well, Tyson can break face bones with one punch, great speed and technique, he would have been in the first league for sure in the 70s, maybe he would have lost against Foreman and Alì, but he would have beaten the others, I think.
@@ROBERTORRRR1 Everyones entitled to their own opinion, I happened to have seen all those fighters, and Tyson wouldn't have made the grade, he would have been beaten by most of the division, Ali, Ken Norton, Frazier, Foreman, Gerry Cooney, Larry Holmes, Ron Lyle, Tyson couldn't fight past 6 rounds, he will always be remembered for knocking over bums.
Vitali struggled with in-fighters, he just handled it better than Wlad during his own reign. He probably would have gotten beat by a prime Tyson, Frazier and likely young (and maybe old) Foreman. Ali would have outworked him and had a good enough chin to take anything he had, easy as well as be too fast. David Tua would have been interesting, but because he was stunted in his growth as a fighter (should have gotten a new trainer) Vitali likely would have beat him by decision so long as he kept Tua back with his longer reach. I'd give Tyson Fury a solid chance now that his power has improved, but it would be a tough fight.
@@johntsoukas8723 Quite right. Even Wlad admitted his brother was better than he was. I doubt his jab stick and hug style would have been nearly as effective on him. Not to mention he always struggled with taller opponents.
Ali in his prime or a little past it not past 1974..Foreman..Liston...and a prime Tyson...Lennox Lewis who beat him and was past his prime. That's who I can Imagine a couple more but those guys for sure.
Bravo Mr Stewart . (Rip).Merci pour tout ce que vous avez fait pour la Boxe...Emmanuel Stewart = Legend ... Tommy "Hit Man" "Motor City Cobra " hearns = Legend ....Kronk Gym = Legend ..Joe louis = Legend.....DETROIT = Legend .
I think, while I rate him as a good fighter from that era, and that he was a hairs width away from getting a stoppage, that even if he did win, he'd have gotten pasted in the rematch, I don't think that Ali would have mentally crumbled like a loss like that would have troubled some fighters. It certainly would have propelled him to international stardom, but then again he's the only boxer to have ever been granted a Knighthood so I think he did okay for himself in the end.
The GREAT trainer Emanuel Steward... This guy MADE heavyweight champions..Lennox Lewis wasn't the Lennox Lewis we all know until he got THIS man in his corner..After that..Unstoppable.. No coincidence
1... Ali- is the Greatest 2... Holmes - the most under-rated... arrogant but, he learned from the best 3... Louis - the People's champ 4... Foreman - a destroyer 5... Lewis... one of the most under-rated .. his size and power would be a force in any era 6... Jack Johnson - you can question his opponent choice but, he defended his title for 20 - 25 rounds at time in the open sun... he was also the first to win by using great defense along with offense 7... Holyfield - a warrior... one problem with Holy field is that, he fought until he was 50 years old... a good champ has to known when to hang up the gloves because, he tarnished his legacy with stupid losses 8... Frazier... he was a small heavyweight with power, stamina and a great defense... my problem with him is he only had 37 fights 9... Wlad Klitschco - his size and power would be a force in any era... problem is that he reins during a piss poor era... 10... Marciano - undefeated at 49_0... the problem with Rocky is, you have to question the ability of his opponents 11... Tyson - the most over-rated of the heavyweights... he crumbled before he could truly show what he was capable of... his mind was to weak to be a great champion but, you can't deny his popularity
You mock Wladimirs era of opponents yet you say nothing about Louis? You're just one of those boxing fans that have no opinion for themselves, you're not a real fan of the sport.
1) It's a joke that you put Marciano on the list at all, let alone put him above Tyson. 2) There are several of other fighters that deserve to make this list, like Vitali Klitschko and Sonny Liston. 3) The modern era is not "piss poor". The heavyweight division reached its peak level of competition during the late 2000s, and it's currently still close to that peak. People only diss the modern heavyweight era because they think the Klitschkos are boring. Fact of the matter is, even Wilder, Povetkin, and Fury would knock a prime Joe Louis flat on his back with ease; same could be said for Jack Johnson as well. The general rule of boxing is that it gets more competitive as time goes on, as nutrition and science improve. The average heavyweight nowadays is far bigger, stronger, and more athletic than heavyweights of 40 years ago. Sometimes, an era might weaken slightly. The 50s were weaker than the 40s. The early 80s were weaker than the mid 70s. The 2010s are slightly weaker than the late 2000s (strongest era). However, the general trend over time is that the sport gets more competitive. The athletes get better, that's just how it is. 4) You mention Wladimir's size advantage as though that discredits his accomplishments. I hate to break it to you, but this is the heavyweight division. It's impressive if a small heavyweight can be dominant, but if he gets beaten by a big heavyweight, the big heavyweight is a better boxer. Skill is a factor that affects your ability to win. Chin is a factor that affects your ability to win. Size is also a factor that affects your ability to win. Wladimir is big, but why does that matter? That's just part of who he is as a boxer. Him being big doesn't make his accomplishments any less than that of smaller boxers. 5) Frazier shouldn't be above Tyson. Tyson was not only a far better fighter in his prime, but he accomplished more than Frazier. Frazier was a great fighter, but he was even worse than Tyson at handling boxers with a big reach advantage.
First of no hate. Just wanting to add my bit to this discussion. I personally think Wladimir should be further up the list. Not only does he have the same amount of title defence win as Joe Louis(soon to overtake him with next fight), but can you seriously say Wladimir would struggle with any of Joe Louis opponents? If so which ones?
Gerop Completely agree with you. Heavyweight boxing is probably at the best ever. It is a far more international sport now that all of Europe is allowed to take part. The level of completion is far superior. I think the next defer years are going to be very exciting. You have Wilder on the rise, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury. I'm hoping a middle aged Wladimir beats them, because he deserves the respect it would bring him, and in all fairness make him the best boxer of all time.
how can u put tyson above vitali klitschko ,who u never mentioned , vitali was never knocked out or down and only lost to lennox on a cut , to me vitali would beat ali all day long .
john smith vitali klitschko was the greatest heavyweight since ali in my opinion virtually unbeatable.I can't imagine joe frazier or ken Norton beating vitali just my opinion.
I totally agree upon your estimation.Vitali was clearly the best of the two Klitschko brothers with a 43-2 record with those two losses coming one by a stoppage due to a cut(lewis fight) and against Chris Byrd due to shoulder injury.In BOTH these fights he was ahead on points.So,we can make an argument for Vitali Klitschko being the best ever.I have him in my top 3 and i put Louis as number 1 out of accomplishments and respect,but he would never beat Vitali,not because he hasn't beat other big sized fighters,but because none of them was so coordinated and technical.Louis at 6'1" and 196 pounds in his prime,wouldn't stand a chance against granite chinned Vitali at 6'7" and 250+ pounds let's be real.Lennox Lewis is also very underrated.In his prime he had it all.Size,power,technique,e.t.c.At 6'5" and 245 at his best you have to acknowledge him at the very best ever.I believe that the fight that took place in 2003 between Vitali and Lennox as long as it lasted it may very well be the best fight ever between two fighters among the greatest ever IF NOT THE TWO ABSOLUT BEST IN THE SPORT OF BOXING
rl184 Don’t take Rocky’s 0, in your mind. The undefeated Brockton Blockbuster would have something to say. Rocky was once asked how’d he do against a prime Joe Louis n Jack Dempsey? The humble but confident Rocky said, “I don’t know, but both would be in the fight of their lives” Sonny lost to Leotis Martin( who?)
Lennox Lewis was way past his best when fought Vitali Klitchko and he didn't have a full training camp before he fought Vitali Klitchko. Do some research before writing absolute bollocks!
He's ranking heavyweights, Tyson was fun for a few years but his career peak was too short and he never beat the same calibre of fighter, Lewis is the all time great of that era.
Al B ignorance is bliss; education is key. If you can’t name 6 - 8 heavyweights you’d rank ahead of Tyson on a heavyweight list, or 20 you’d rank ahead of him pound for pound, you definitely don’t know your boxing history. Nobody in my top all time list went their entire career without beating even one great prime opponent, not once got up or came from behind to win, not once changed a game plan when called for, didn’t throw the same combo over and over, never once quit on their stool again a terrible opponent! Mike appeals to people because of his style, his demeanour, his power and speed, his attitude, etc etc, but none of that ranks him above fighters who were both better than him, and had much better careers against much better opposition. You rank Tyson over Greb and Armstrong!!? Pure ignorance of the sport. Have a good day.
Joe Louis the GOAT numbers don't lie, people just like Ali because he had a lot of back and forth struggles with top contenders and for what he did outside the ring. People love underdog stories. But Louis was so good he was never an underdog
We didn't "like" but love Ali. He didn't have an "underdog story" he was taking on threat and racism. Unlike Joe Louis with all due respect, Ali refused to bow down and be a good boy. At the end of the day, it got Louis nothing for all of his services. Louis got about 25 defenses but who fought the more quality fighters Louis or Ali? I rest my case.
@@marcleon1513 you can only fight the best of your era and Joe Louis did that as champion and 23 of his 25 successful World title defences were inside the distance. Louis gets my vote as the GOAT.
@@marcleon1513 you cant compare quality across era's. Don't c ok compare fame to quality. Alis foes got famous because they gave him issues. When you dominate like Louis or Wladimir klitchko, you don't give your foes the line light to shine. Louis fought bigger stronger heavyweights than Ali, champion Carnera was a lot bigger than anyone in Alis resume, he was as big as tyson Fury but sculpted. Louis also beat more champion calibre foes than Ali. Statistics say Louis is the GOAT. Joe Louis did more change to benefit minorities outside the ring. Ali inspired culture but that's pretty much it. Louis got laws changed. Opened the door for minority in boxing, golf and the military.
@James Lee that would have been a great fight. If Louis could survive the first few rounds then I'd have to favour Louis. Foreman has always said that Joe Louis was the Greatest and Ali 2nd.
@Dion Fowlkes It's not about 'we'll see.' That's not a counter argument. Fact is Tyson was robbed. There is a unanimous opinion among top trainers and boxing experts that feel that Fury won that fight. However boxing in USA will always be biased towards American fighters. That is just business. But the public have been so accustomed to fights in USA that people believe that fighting in USA is a neutral ground, which it ain't. We all know the rematch should take place in the UK. That would give Fury a chance to have home ground advantage, but because of money, the fight will happen in USA again and Wilder will have the upper hand yet again.
Iron Mike was like a Marvel character! I rank Tyson over Holyfield and Lewis because they never met each other in their prime. A prime Tyson destroys Lewis and Holyfield.
Maul Force No, it counts a TKO or RTD depending on the situation. Winning a fight because of a cut and knocking someone out are different things and if you’re trying to they’re the same then you really don’t know boxing. They both count as a loss, but not all losses are equal.
He’s got one ☝️ thing right above all Ali was the Greatest of all time. He fought with the speed of a middle weight and the endurance of a lightweight, in he’s prime no one would’ve beaten him. Mike Tyson admits this in an interview, he said I could’ve never beat Ali, He was a beast in the game. RIP
Ali nobody had foot speed and hand speed and great reaction timing fought fighters and beat them when he wasn’t in his prime he ducked nobody took on all comers...Ppl forget he was a heavyweight with the hand speed of a welterweight
Ducked Forman ,Salted his water and blinded him with deep heat on Ali's Gloves ,after he didn't sleep for 2 weeks for Africa Ali fanatics singing Songs every night for 2 weeks outside his Hotel Room, He had death threats ,Couldn't Train properly because he wasn't sleeping, they were even Over salting his Food, it was all corruption, the world should know, and the real boxing World knows why there was no rematch in back in the states. The real boxing World knows Forman would of destroyed him.
Antoni PERONI Ali made foreman his bitch man there’s now way around it man he took punishment for rounds after rounds then dropped him man just accept it
1990 - 1950 - Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis 1950 - 2000 - Muhammad Ali, Larry Holmes, Lennox Lewis 2000 - 2050 - Vitali Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko, Tyson Fury so far, but 30 more years to go, so we don't know yet ..... For everybody knocking on today's heavyweight division, saying that the 1990s heavyweight division was much better - That may be true if you look at it like that... But you can also compare it to 100 years ago from 1900 - 1920 ... and in that case I would say that 2000 - 2020 has been SIGNIFICANTLY more thrilling ... Roy Jones Jr capturing the heavyweight title in 2003, Vitali and Lennox going to war with each other in 2003, Wladimir almost breaking Joe Louis' record, then having an epic fight vs. Anthony Joshua as his last fight in 2017, and in 2020 Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder continued the madness ... Things work in cycles, and the best heavyweights are maybe yet to come.
@@tsuni7040 read my comment again ... I was referring to the three historical heavyweights between 1900-1950 ... a lot of Marciano's sucess took place in the 1950s... And you're wrong about Marciano's resume - he was brought up very slowly during his day, much like Deontay Wilder in his day ... then he defeated some great names like Walcott and Charles, but he didn't defeat them when they were great ... Joe Louis had a pretty solid record, reigned for a LONG time and still holds the records of the most title defenses (I think 25?) .... His rematch against Max Schmelling was HUGE, it sent shockwaves worldwide and went into the history books ... Joe Louis is remembered as the greatest champion in history (which was Emmanuel Steward said as well) and he was definitely a historically greater heavyweight than Rocky Marciano, and in my opinion (and in a lot of other peoples opinion) also greater than Marciano was far as in-ring skills goes ... You got some nerves to put Joe Louis in question you freaking asshole, LOL ... each bum beaten by Johnson, Dempsey and Louis would still kick your ass.
@@Tourist-Q. Marciano couldnt possibly be brought slowly he gained title 4 years after going pro, 49-0 in only 8 years. Louis title defences were pretty much overrated since he had fights every month where he would take whoever challenged him to a fight(most of them were really lower competition). Joe Louis had far greater technique but Marciano was fighting 15 rounds in phone booth, constant agression with shortest reach. People discredit Marciano too much, Dempsey fought 40 year old Willard for title and had least title defenses, Johnson fought 5'7 Burns for title and his biggest fight was against Jeffries who came out 6 year retirement.
Jak dla mnie Władymir jak i Vitali mogliby znajdować się w okolicach 10 miejsca "ciężkich" wszechczasów. Mój ranking: 1. Ali. 2. Louis. 3. Johnson. 4. Foreman. 5. Tyson. 6. Marciano. 7. Lewis. 8. Frazier. 9. Holyfield. 10. Bracia Klitschko.
+dziqu There is no doubt that Tyson looked very good in his prime, but who did he beat that should earn him that spot? And Lyle and Shavers belong nowhere near the top-10.
shockadellick Angelo had 23 world champions. Long before Ali and Leonard Angelo had Carmen Basilio and Willie Pastrano.There’s a reason why Ali wanted Angelo. Angelo wasnt exactly unknown at the time. Angelo was considered the best in the business that’s why Ali wanted him. And when I say 23 I mean from the ground up. Not after they were world champion and catching them later in their career like Manny did with Lennox Lewis and Klitschko. The only bonafide world champion that I know Manny Steward had from the ground up is Thomas Hearns. There could be others but he’s the one that sticks out.
You're entitled to your opinion but you've either never seen Ali fight, don't understand the significance of the quality of opposition he beat or simply know bugger all about boxing. More of a showman. Sorry but this is insulting to the increadible courage and skill that Ali displayed in a 20 year professional career.
he said that Tyson gave him in the last 15 years the most exiting heavyweight moments, the one who gave u the most exciting heavyweights is not in your top ten ranking? I dont' understand this guy, please helps me.
This guy knows boxing and he knows fighters. I would take his word as pretty solid.
Bra Mark Shepherd...that my friend is the late great Emmanuelle Stewart...this dude WAS BOXING
Levi Clark
Yeah, I know who is . I’ve been a boxing fan since I was eleven...I’m sixty!
My father sparred with Graziano and trained myself and four other brothers.
@@marksheppard6498 RIGHT ON!!! GRAZIANO...FUCKING RIGHT MAN
Gordon Payne
You missed Ali’s greatest weapon..his MIND! His ability to adapt strategy and incorporate movement to negate and throw off balance his opponents are overlooked by everyone but his trainer and opposition.
@@marksheppard6498 Ali had the ring IQ equivalent to Einstein
Miss his commentary his passing was a big loss for the sport of boxing.
Best commentator ever
I miss his commentary also. He was extremely knowledgeable.
@David Mc Somebody asked for your life story?
@David Mc I never even saw the comment. I also initiated it with a smart alecky remark so no worries. I appreciate the advice about the philly shell defense.
I’m glad Stewart mentioned Foreman because he (Foreman) has never gotten received the due credit he truly deserves. Unbelievable punching power, could also take a punch-as he proved during his fights with Evander Holyfield and Ron Lyle. Granted, his style wasn’t pretty (Ali nicknamed him “the mummy”) but he got the job done. Bottom line: 76-5 record during the Golden Age of boxing and then regaining the heavyweight title at 45 years of age, says all you need to know about this guy.🥊
He didn't have a lot of stamina when he was young. And he never really had speed.
I will say this Emmanuel Steward was like a professor of boxing and one of the top ten greatest trainers of all time everyone he worked with improved and a lot were already great fighters, RIP Manny the boxing world is much poorer for your loss 🙏!.
He was top 1. I don't think 1-2 of Emmanuel and Ray Arcel is arguable.
Top 10?? Lol giving him anything other than top 1 or 2 is an insult. His CV speaks for itself
Wladimir Klitschko was great too. When he had his run and was on top of his game he was a beast. And he was a great sportsman and a great role model. He never cursed on TV, never was involved in any scandals, never fouled, never excessively traded insults with anyone, etc, he was always a class act and a model sportsman
Not even close to as good ashis brother
@hayder88Emmanuel steward doesn't agree with you
Ali beat Forman in his prime when Ali was not in his prime. Ali beat Norton 2 out of 3 times. Norton in his prime but Ali was not in his prime. Same with Fraizer,Lyle, Shavers and the rest. Ali beat hall of famers in their primes when he was outside of his prime. Thats impressive..Ali the greatest R.I.P
True. He beat Sonny Liston twice (in his prime) but some might say Liston was past his prime
Correct iam with you bro
aptly stated
Rindarejang smokin Joe Frazier is the greatest.lions heart smokin jo..Joe=Ali..not any less
Rindarejang Ali said it himself he did not beat Norton that last time. Norton was Ali’s kryptonite
George Foreman is the most underrated HW Champ in history! He deserves to be #3
Naah I got ali Louis Larry Holmes ahead of him
@@theinformationbomber7102🤝
I've always said that Foreman and Holmes don't get enough respect and that they're probably both in the top 3 or 4, crazy that I've only just seen this video now of Steward saying the same thing.
Foreman must rate as highly as anyone
@Ra HoWa priestess 😆
Honestly I don't see Foreman beat a Tyson Fury
El Pueblo Unido Fury is good, but who’s he actually fought? A 39 year old Klitschko, who even on his best day I would expect would get sparked by Foreman, or Wilder? I mean Wilder compared to Foreman, really? After those two we’re looking at Chisoras and Hammers, who really are not worth mentioning in the same breath as Foreman. This is a guy that carries ridiculous power in every punch and has a very good chin, his boxing ability isn’t the best, but compared to some of the heavyweights today, he’d probs be one of the best technical boxers out there.
@@TheMaster47x of course Foreman fought better fighters, I say that Tyson would beat him due to size. The size difference between old heavyweights and new ones is abnormal. Foreman was 191 cms tall, 220 lbs when he fought Ali, Tyson is 206 cms tall, 270+ libs of meat that can bring the fight to you or outboxe you from the distance. Size matters man.
Plus I dont accept the 39 years old speculation about the fight with Big Klit. Klit was undefeated in the last 11 YEARS!! ELEVEN! And Tyson outoboxed him in his home, so he deserve big credit for that.
And he deserve big credit for beating Wilder AT HIS OWN GAME in his home too! So those 2 are already 2 career defining wins, Tyson is just unlucky that he don't live in the Ali era. He would outsize em all for me
Steward is an authority on the subject any day in my book
Aye, consulting Emanual Steward on boxing is like consulting Moses on God.
I can scarcely think of a better person to talk about boxing with... except perhaps Cus d'amato..
The most important roll of a trainer is to protect there fighter. He made his fighters spar everyday, therefore they are all dead or punch drunk
He was a terrible trainer
Indeed.
He was so real. Much respect.
Wrong. He was a loud mouth POS and currently resides in Hell because of his Muslim faith. Know Jesus, know peace. No Jesus, no peace. Ali can most assuredly agree to that now.
@@tombstone1111
You're 100% incorrect and you're arrogant to boot!...
@@Tonyconner74 The only thing in my comment up for debate is whether or not you or anyone thinks he's a piece of shit. I personally did think he was. Zero debate on whether or not he was a loud mouth. And if you think I'm wrong about him being in Hell for his Muslim faith, then you are well on your way there too for not knowing what the Bible says about non believers in Jesus Christ as Lord.
@@tombstone1111
Complete conjecture on your part you have no idea where Ali is or do you have no knowledge of where you or I are going if you do show your proof not your arrogance!....
@@Tonyconner74 Read the Bible. Either you believe the word of God or you don't. Forever is too long to be wrong, but you have free will to believe whatever you want to believe. Hey, I'm the biggest Mike Tyson fan out there but he converted to Muslim while in prison and I believe that because of that choice, he will be in Hell too. I don't wish Hell on my worst enemy. I think if it is indeed real, which I believe it is, it's the most over the top thing in the universe and I totally disagree with God about sending anybody there. But it's all there in black and white, whether you choose to believe or not.
second greatest boxer George Foreman. why not ? he knocked out undefeated Joe Frazier . he knocked out Ken Norton and lyle.
and 45 years old man become champion again against moor who was undefeated and 25 years old .
@James Lee I do not think that Holmes could beat Foreman . he was so big and strong , and Holmes did not have chin or energy to dodgy Foreman's heavy punches.
@Tattle Boad if Frazier had been Foreman's size he would have killed Ali :D Frazier was great boxer and good man . he had heart of lion .
Well put.
@Tattle Boad what makes me crazy is that smoking Joe Frazier was blind in his left eye . can you imagine? and some people complaint that Ali was past his prime . i got no idea how just become 29 years old man could be out of shape if he does not want too?
I Have him equal #1 Beside Lenox.
Emanuel Stewart one of the greatest&the best trainer ever.
Love the way Emmanuel steward lays down the truth and the facts.
Ali is number 1
Indeed.
Ali was larger than life.
Well l his Mouth Was that's for sure .
@highspeedtubing YES Ali was a terrible person with a low IQ and because of his disgusting faith in the false Prophet Muhammad he has been burning and suffering greatly in Hell since the second he died. Good riddance. And btw, the MOST overrated athlete, not just fighter, in sports history. You buffoons that fall all over Ali need to do your homework and realize that he was nowhere near the "Greatest", a word or description he made into absolute blasphemy.
The Media can make your Famous like that.
Grady Whitman 70something actually so it was pretty low but he was still smart in life
Keena Yeah your stupid he will forever be the greatest, great person with good intentions to uplift others just stop saying dumb stuff when you don’t know what he boxed for
Emmanuel Stewart was a training genius
Thanks for the video, BOKSERORG
R.I.P. " I realised difference between a coach and a trainer, Emanuel was a trainer , I learnt from him" Lennox Lewis.
Hell of a good man I met him when I was 16 years old at the Kronk Gym Tommy Hearns walked up to me and showed me how to throw a jab then I went in the Marine Corps and I got out of the Marine Corps eight years later and he’s a world champion and a trainer at World Champion
Great little boxing video that I had never seen. Thx!
Miss this guy r.i.p. E.S
I miss seeing interviews from the greatest
He turned Heavyweights into MONSTERS...
A legend among boxing trainers and a humble man
Id like to hear him forever
Agree 100% especially with foreman part
I agree with Emanuel Steward's rating of Ali.In fact if I am not mistaken Ali's era was the greatest with talent, including those that could not win heavyweight titles,which helped propel him up to dizzying heights.During Ali's time there were Liston,Patterson,De John,Quarry,Bonavena,Chuvalo,Shavers,Ellis,Foreman,Norton,Frazier,Mathis etc.
Emmanuel Steward was a great trainer. He knew what to look for when judging fighters.
Great Boxer great boxing trainer great boxing analyst great boxing historian and specialist may he rest in peace Emmanuel Stuart
The best trainer ever .
rocky Marciano, undefeated
That don’t necessarily make u a great fighter.
Miss you Emanuel Steward
Thank goodness someone else says Marciano was crap.
He said Marciano was knocked down a lot but he'd only been knocked down twice in 49 fights and Not hurt either time. I think more often than not size makes a difference but with a low sideways crouch and sheer unnatural punching power I think he could hold his own with anyone win or lose.
yup just what i posted, Manny bias and talkin shit here....... only 2 times for a total of 5 seconds.
@@shotgunshawzy nonsense
Wow Rocky Marciano an over achiever...best description ever!!!
@November Reign Hit harder ? Marciano was one of the hardest punchers All Time !!
@November Reign yes, heavyweights got bigger...many of them used and use roids as well ! As a fighter...Rocky was unmatched...he would remove you from ur senses in a heartbeart...a pure beast, and a real warrior...good to see you appreciate him for what he was.
Marciano is the go to example for the saying that 'Boxing is 90 percent mental'
Not that I think you can quantify something as nebulus as being game as fuck to fight, it goes to show how far it can take you.
@@anz2441 unmatched cause he was fighting weak & old fighters
@@caseycook6027 How The Fuck is Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, Joe Louis and Archie Moore Weak,??
I can listen to this man talk boxing for days
love from my family and friends heart
Glad to hear a man like Emanuel Steward mention Lennox Lewis in his list of all time greatest heavyweights.
well he trained him soooo, same with Vlad he trained him too but Vlad wasnt even the best in his family
no surprise there, he is by many metrics the GOAT
mike BUDZINSKI he trained other heavyweight sooo
Lewis is #3 on my list behind Ali and Louis, when it comes to HWs
He said marciano knocked down a lot but there are only 2 knock downs to speak of in his career and that was Archie Moore and joe Walcott. Also he'd fought numerous men well over 200 with the heaviest 2 being bill wilson 230lbs, johnny shkor 220lbs and 1 other that was 254 but can't remember his name
@what. nbba I have to disagree with Walcott hitting harder than louis, Louis ko ratio at around 75% with even more fights is a testament to that but Walcott did have much better foot work and was a better defensive fighter and savier.
@@dirtyjew1974 Does what Emanuel Steward said hurt 🤕 😭
@@dirtyjew1974 Cry louder. I can not hear you.
@@dirtyjew1974 He said 5' 10" 188 lbs incredibly short reach too small lmfao 😆
@@dirtyjew1974 And of course what is yer reply? Desperately trying to make little Rocky bigger lmfao 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
the legend behind the legend of.....
The legendary....
Wladimir Klitschko
🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊
ICON! Tribute to the Sport.
I agree with his top 5 he is right on the $
Rocky Balboa is a top 3. He beat Clubber Lang in his prime.
@@patuswieczniepodejrzani3564 hehehe
Clubber Lane oh my god idiot
@@patuswieczniepodejrzani3564 😂😂😂😂
He also beat Tommy Gunn in that streetfight
Russell Johnson sorry I didn’t check the autocorrect. You calling people an idiot for minor stuff makes you a MORON!! Get a happy life! 😢
Absolutely 100% agree with the legendary trainer!
The order can be changed. Ali, Lewis, Louis, Holmes and Foreman.
Oll Bee good list
Ali and Lewis are the undisputed top 2
For me it is Louis,Foreman,Vitali Klitschko,Lewis,Ali.
Ya it can always be changed, Ali, Louis foreman, Tyson, Holmes...... Definitely no Fury, Joshua nor Wilder in that list. Fury has to dominate first ( reign for a long time and the division needs quality boxers coz this is a disservice to the few good ones who are measured on the quality of their opponents)
It’s a shame so many of the people making comments on here are not real students of boxing. Many of the comments here are based on personal favorites or emotions. Clearly many of you did not watch heavyweight boxing between 1970-1985. Many of the ridiculous names I see here like Tyson Fury would not have even been in the top 10 of that time...
an emotional comment based on personal favourites and emotions if ever i saw one... lol
Tyson Fury just proved himself
😂Tyson Fury now number one in ring magazine top 10 in this era
I did watch boxing in this period and agree pretty much with what you say but I think Fury would have been possibly top ten. Defeating Deonte Wilder certainly isn't enough to justify that but all the same I think you might be underrating him a bit.
@@joshpotts6316 he did but it's too early to place him in top 10
R.I.P. Emanuel Steward
Emanuel Stewart is GOAT when it comes to Boxing Trainers. And very astute at identifying talent and ability. He has an amazing championship fight record as trainer - I think he was 9-0 in Heavyweight championship fights. That is some record. He was not much of a talker but whatever he said came true. He predicted Fury and Wilder would be world champs way before we even knew who these two were - He could foresee things in Boxing. There have been other great trainers - Some old wise heads. But for training and preparing a Boxer to win championship fights, no one else even comes close. Emanuel Stewart is to Boxing Trainers what Ali is to Boxers! RIP
Rocky Marciano very close number 2 - Really miss Mr Stewart RIP 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Ali the greatest of all times
There you have it, if you truly are a boxing enthusiast then Emmanuel steward must be taken seriously, his line up is unquestionably apt, 1. Ali, 2. Joe Lewis, Larry Holmes and Lennox Lewis, and he was right about big George Foreman, he's underappreciated but definitely deserve to be in the top 5 greats of all time.
Legendary boxing trainer
And Still the Heavyweight Champion of the World Rocky Marciano 49n0. R.I.P Champ!
@Donovan Johnson who did he duck not his fault
Joe Louis is the greatest. Forget about what he meant. He earns that title based on ability alone. He was simply the best
I also think he is the greatest .What do you mean by "on ability alone" .
I haven't seen anyone who could beat Ali two of three.
Lennox was a great champion. Way underrated. Would have given Ali a helluva night.
+Scott Reed Ken Norton beat Ali 3 times...
+KcDBG no
TheAlterPlace Tyson beat old men and bums. Not a chance.
KcDBG no he didn't
Ben Lowe ali would beat lennox easily he would move around like he did against earnie terell thats how you beat a bigger fighter from the outside
3:18 He was only knocked down twice. The only times he was cut badly were in the Walcott fight where he was blinded for 4 rounds by medication that got into his eyes, and in the 2 Charles fights. Charles was especially good at cutting anybody, and the 2nd time with Marciano was by an accidental elbow.
@@turnedleftattherockymounta6688 Walcott and Moore each only knocked Rocky down once. Both times he got up right away.
Agree with Foreman being mentioned ranked below Ali & Louis. The guy was a priest for 10 years and re-entered the ring at 46 years of age to Kapow a 26-year old. Will never forget that moment when Michael Buffer announced the decision at the end of the fight.
That moment was magical! Moorer goes down on a right hand! An unbelievably close right hand!
Ali, Lewis, Foreman, Holyfield, Tyson..
Jamal Al Chami Why do u got Tyson in your top 5 heavyweights?
Liston must be up there as well.
Holyfield ? 😂😂😂
Ali was the greatest, Emanuel Stewart raised some excellent points, a Man of great knowledge, he demands respect, I'm a guy who watched and saw all the great fights from the 1970s, I have always said If Mike Tyson was around in the 1970s he would have been a nobody, he would have been a punch- bag for the class of the 1970s.
J. Mahoney well, Tyson can break face bones with one punch, great speed and technique, he would have been in the first league for sure in the 70s, maybe he would have lost against Foreman and Alì, but he would have beaten the others, I think.
@@ROBERTORRRR1 Everyones entitled to their own opinion, I happened to have seen all those fighters, and Tyson wouldn't have made the grade, he would have been beaten by most of the division, Ali, Ken Norton, Frazier, Foreman, Gerry Cooney, Larry Holmes, Ron Lyle, Tyson couldn't fight past 6 rounds, he will always be remembered for knocking over bums.
J. Mahoney maybe he would have beaten also by Spider Rico 😂George Foreman has a different opinion by the way
@@ROBERTORRRR1 George Foreman also thinks his grills are the best in the world, LOL!
@@j.mahoney1178 he couldn't fight beyond 6 rounds because he didn't need to
It's a shame we can't listen to this legends opinion on boxing now.
wow, steward and i have the exact same top 5
@oneraceonedestiny You're no one to say that Manny is wrong.
Agree with most of what he said, but would rate Klitschko far lower and put Tyson Fury up in his "at least" 8th place.
I can't imagine who could beat Vitaliy in his prime.
Vitali struggled with in-fighters, he just handled it better than Wlad during his own reign. He probably would have gotten beat by a prime Tyson, Frazier and likely young (and maybe old) Foreman. Ali would have outworked him and had a good enough chin to take anything he had, easy as well as be too fast. David Tua would have been interesting, but because he was stunted in his growth as a fighter (should have gotten a new trainer) Vitali likely would have beat him by decision so long as he kept Tua back with his longer reach. I'd give Tyson Fury a solid chance now that his power has improved, but it would be a tough fight.
@@johnd.zephyr2531 Vitali was always the best of the two brothers.
@@johntsoukas8723 Quite right. Even Wlad admitted his brother was better than he was. I doubt his jab stick and hug style would have been nearly as effective on him. Not to mention he always struggled with taller opponents.
@@johnd.zephyr2531 No chance. Tyson himself said that the heavyweight is senseless while brothers Klitchko were still there.
Ali in his prime or a little past it not past 1974..Foreman..Liston...and a prime Tyson...Lennox Lewis who beat him and was past his prime. That's who I can Imagine a couple more but those guys for sure.
Bravo Mr Stewart . (Rip).Merci pour tout ce que vous avez fait pour la Boxe...Emmanuel Stewart = Legend ... Tommy "Hit Man" "Motor City Cobra " hearns = Legend ....Kronk Gym = Legend ..Joe louis = Legend.....DETROIT = Legend .
I miss Emanuel
Wonder what it would have done for Henry Cooper if that round would have lasted for 30 more seconds.
I think, while I rate him as a good fighter from that era, and that he was a hairs width away from getting a stoppage, that even if he did win, he'd have gotten pasted in the rematch, I don't think that Ali would have mentally crumbled like a loss like that would have troubled some fighters.
It certainly would have propelled him to international stardom, but then again he's the only boxer to have ever been granted a Knighthood so I think he did okay for himself in the end.
He would have knocked ali out
The GREAT trainer Emanuel Steward... This guy MADE heavyweight champions..Lennox Lewis wasn't the Lennox Lewis we all know until he got THIS man in his corner..After that..Unstoppable.. No coincidence
Indeed.
Ali fought shavers,norton,foreman and fraizer.those guys were great
best trainer
1... Ali- is the Greatest
2... Holmes - the most under-rated... arrogant but, he learned from the best
3... Louis - the People's champ
4... Foreman - a destroyer
5... Lewis... one of the most under-rated .. his size and power would be a force in any era
6... Jack Johnson - you can question his opponent choice but, he defended his title for 20 - 25 rounds at time in the open sun... he was also the first to win by using great defense along with offense
7... Holyfield - a warrior... one problem with Holy field is that, he fought until he was 50 years old... a good champ has to known when to hang up the gloves because, he tarnished his legacy with stupid losses
8... Frazier... he was a small heavyweight with power, stamina and a great defense... my problem with him is he only had 37 fights
9... Wlad Klitschco - his size and power would be a force in any era... problem is that he reins during a piss poor era...
10... Marciano - undefeated at 49_0... the problem with Rocky is, you have to question the ability of his opponents
11... Tyson - the most over-rated of the heavyweights... he crumbled before he could truly show what he was capable of... his mind was to weak to be a great champion but, you can't deny his popularity
You mock Wladimirs era of opponents yet you say nothing about Louis?
You're just one of those boxing fans that have no opinion for themselves, you're not a real fan of the sport.
1) It's a joke that you put Marciano on the list at all, let alone put him above Tyson.
2) There are several of other fighters that deserve to make this list, like Vitali Klitschko and Sonny Liston.
3) The modern era is not "piss poor". The heavyweight division reached its peak level of competition during the late 2000s, and it's currently still close to that peak. People only diss the modern heavyweight era because they think the Klitschkos are boring. Fact of the matter is, even Wilder, Povetkin, and Fury would knock a prime Joe Louis flat on his back with ease; same could be said for Jack Johnson as well. The general rule of boxing is that it gets more competitive as time goes on, as nutrition and science improve. The average heavyweight nowadays is far bigger, stronger, and more athletic than heavyweights of 40 years ago. Sometimes, an era might weaken slightly. The 50s were weaker than the 40s. The early 80s were weaker than the mid 70s. The 2010s are slightly weaker than the late 2000s (strongest era). However, the general trend over time is that the sport gets more competitive. The athletes get better, that's just how it is.
4) You mention Wladimir's size advantage as though that discredits his accomplishments. I hate to break it to you, but this is the heavyweight division. It's impressive if a small heavyweight can be dominant, but if he gets beaten by a big heavyweight, the big heavyweight is a better boxer. Skill is a factor that affects your ability to win. Chin is a factor that affects your ability to win. Size is also a factor that affects your ability to win. Wladimir is big, but why does that matter? That's just part of who he is as a boxer. Him being big doesn't make his accomplishments any less than that of smaller boxers.
5) Frazier shouldn't be above Tyson. Tyson was not only a far better fighter in his prime, but he accomplished more than Frazier. Frazier was a great fighter, but he was even worse than Tyson at handling boxers with a big reach advantage.
First of no hate. Just wanting to add my bit to this discussion. I personally think Wladimir should be further up the list. Not only does he have the same amount of title defence win as Joe Louis(soon to overtake him with next fight), but can you seriously say Wladimir would struggle with any of Joe Louis opponents? If so which ones?
Gerop
Completely agree with you. Heavyweight boxing is probably at the best ever. It is a far more international sport now that all of Europe is allowed to take part. The level of completion is far superior. I think the next defer years are going to be very exciting. You have Wilder on the rise, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury. I'm hoping a middle aged Wladimir beats them, because he deserves the respect it would bring him, and in all fairness make him the best boxer of all time.
Right now, I think klitschko can beat Fury, and probably Joshua right now too. But I don't think he can handle wilder
how can u put tyson above vitali klitschko ,who u never mentioned , vitali was never knocked out or down and only lost to lennox on a cut , to me vitali would beat ali all day long .
LOL
john smith vitali klitschko was the greatest heavyweight since ali in my opinion virtually unbeatable.I can't imagine joe frazier or ken Norton beating vitali just my opinion.
Who did Vitali beat?
I totally agree upon your estimation.Vitali was clearly the best of the two Klitschko brothers with a 43-2 record with those two losses coming one by a stoppage due to a cut(lewis fight) and against Chris Byrd due to shoulder injury.In BOTH these fights he was ahead on points.So,we can make an argument for Vitali Klitschko being the best ever.I have him in my top 3 and i put Louis as number 1 out of accomplishments and respect,but he would never beat Vitali,not because he hasn't beat other big sized fighters,but because none of them was so coordinated and technical.Louis at 6'1" and 196 pounds in his prime,wouldn't stand a chance against granite chinned Vitali at 6'7" and 250+ pounds let's be real.Lennox Lewis is also very underrated.In his prime he had it all.Size,power,technique,e.t.c.At 6'5" and 245 at his best you have to acknowledge him at the very best ever.I believe that the fight that took place in 2003 between Vitali and Lennox as long as it lasted it may very well be the best fight ever between two fighters among the greatest ever IF NOT THE TWO ABSOLUT BEST IN THE SPORT OF BOXING
@@ram0666 Who could beat Vitali is the correct question because in fact NOBODY did.
Manny would suit singing ottis on karaoke,his voice is top "Watching the tiiiiiide roll awayyy" lol
Crazy that Balboa or Drago isn't mentioned in the top 10!!!
Wasn't Rocky knocked down only twice? Once by Jersey Joe and once by Archie Moore.
Rocky never lost a fight .. #1 Rocky all time great .
Correct only twice, more to do with not seeing the punch comeing than anything else.
Yes onlt twice.
rl184 Don’t take Rocky’s 0, in your mind. The undefeated Brockton Blockbuster would have something to say. Rocky was once asked how’d he do against a prime Joe Louis n Jack Dempsey? The humble but confident Rocky said, “I don’t know, but both would be in the fight of their lives” Sonny lost to Leotis Martin( who?)
rl184 shut up afro .. chating bullshit so the 49 he fought were what??
He didnt mention Vitali Klitschko. But Vitali was ahead on points vs Lennox in their fight and is IMO a better boxer than Wlad. Hes top 3 IMO.
Vitali is top 3 of all time no matter how you slice it and dice it.
Ahead on points is a thing now?
Don't waste your breath on these racist morons.
Lennox Lewis was way past his best when fought Vitali Klitchko and he didn't have a full training camp before he fought Vitali Klitchko.
Do some research before writing absolute bollocks!
@GRap TheGOAT what an idiotic comment.
Steward love size. In all of his interviews about who's the greatest, he always use size as a criteria.
I would agree he's about right.
Mine would be Ali, Tyson, Roy Jones Jr, & Sugar Ray Robinson. Grading goes for excitement and boxing skill
He's ranking heavyweights, Tyson was fun for a few years but his career peak was too short and he never beat the same calibre of fighter, Lewis is the all time great of that era.
They’re talking about heavyweights in this video, not pound for pound.
Either way, Tyson does not belong on either top 5 list.
He does on my list..
Al B ignorance is bliss; education is key. If you can’t name 6 - 8 heavyweights you’d rank ahead of Tyson on a heavyweight list, or 20 you’d rank ahead of him pound for pound, you definitely don’t know your boxing history.
Nobody in my top all time list went their entire career without beating even one great prime opponent, not once got up or came from behind to win, not once changed a game plan when called for, didn’t throw the same combo over and over, never once quit on their stool again a terrible opponent!
Mike appeals to people because of his style, his demeanour, his power and speed, his attitude, etc etc, but none of that ranks him above fighters who were both better than him, and had much better careers against much better opposition.
You rank Tyson over Greb and Armstrong!!? Pure ignorance of the sport.
Have a good day.
Its called having my own opinion.
What about clubber lang
He only fought bums
when certain people speak, you listen.
Not as dumb as Foreman and not as egotistical as RJ calling fights for HBO. Steward was the best of them all.
Joe Louis the GOAT numbers don't lie, people just like Ali because he had a lot of back and forth struggles with top contenders and for what he did outside the ring. People love underdog stories.
But Louis was so good he was never an underdog
Ali nu 1 mate come on who joe fight no one
We didn't "like" but love Ali. He didn't have an "underdog story" he was taking on threat and racism. Unlike Joe Louis with all due respect, Ali refused to bow down and be a good boy. At the end of the day, it got Louis nothing for all of his services. Louis got about 25 defenses but who fought the more quality fighters Louis or Ali? I rest my case.
@@marcleon1513 you can only fight the best of your era and Joe Louis did that as champion and 23 of his 25 successful World title defences were inside the distance. Louis gets my vote as the GOAT.
@@marcleon1513 you cant compare quality across era's. Don't c ok compare fame to quality. Alis foes got famous because they gave him issues. When you dominate like Louis or Wladimir klitchko, you don't give your foes the line light to shine.
Louis fought bigger stronger heavyweights than Ali, champion Carnera was a lot bigger than anyone in Alis resume, he was as big as tyson Fury but sculpted. Louis also beat more champion calibre foes than Ali. Statistics say Louis is the GOAT.
Joe Louis did more change to benefit minorities outside the ring. Ali inspired culture but that's pretty much it. Louis got laws changed. Opened the door for minority in boxing, golf and the military.
@James Lee that would have been a great fight. If Louis could survive the first few rounds then I'd have to favour Louis. Foreman has always said that Joe Louis was the Greatest and Ali 2nd.
No matter who was the best heavyweight ever My favorite was Mike Tyson💯
@Dion Fowlkes Wilder robbed Fury and don't you forget that, son
@Dion Fowlkes It's not about 'we'll see.' That's not a counter argument. Fact is Tyson was robbed. There is a unanimous opinion among top trainers and boxing experts that feel that Fury won that fight. However boxing in USA will always be biased towards American fighters. That is just business. But the public have been so accustomed to fights in USA that people believe that fighting in USA is a neutral ground, which it ain't. We all know the rematch should take place in the UK. That would give Fury a chance to have home ground advantage, but because of money, the fight will happen in USA again and Wilder will have the upper hand yet again.
Iron Mike was like a Marvel character! I rank Tyson over Holyfield and Lewis because they never met each other in their prime. A prime Tyson destroys Lewis and Holyfield.
@@joesoto690 keep dreaming.
Joe Soto maybe Lewis but not Holyfield
My exact top 5 all time... :)
See my ancient video, on here...
ali , holmes , lewis , louis , liston , foreman
rocky marciano
Charles martin #1
The KING
He walks this earth like a god.
The goat of the boxing dynasty
Vitali should be in top 5 he NEVER was knocked down. Never lost it . And never avoid anybody
Walter 777 Smith um, No. I love Vitali but he’s not top 5 or top 10. Definitely top 15, but he doesn’t have the resume to be in that discussion.
Lennox Lewis KOed him what are you talking about?
Maul Force that fight was stopped by the doctor due to a cut, not a KO, but you’re right, Lewis did win the fight.
@@crazygangrel TKO: counts as Knockout
Maul Force No, it counts a TKO or RTD depending on the situation. Winning a fight because of a cut and knocking someone out are different things and if you’re trying to they’re the same then you really don’t know boxing. They both count as a loss, but not all losses are equal.
He’s got one ☝️ thing right above all Ali was the Greatest of all time. He fought with the speed of a middle weight and the endurance of a lightweight, in he’s prime no one would’ve beaten him. Mike Tyson admits this in an interview, he said I could’ve never beat Ali, He was a beast in the game. RIP
Tyson would have beaten ali in 5 rounds at max
Ali nobody had foot speed and hand speed and great reaction timing fought fighters and beat them when he wasn’t in his prime he ducked nobody took on all comers...Ppl forget he was a heavyweight with the hand speed of a welterweight
Ducked Forman ,Salted his water and blinded him with deep heat on Ali's Gloves ,after he didn't sleep for 2 weeks for Africa Ali fanatics singing Songs every night for 2 weeks outside his Hotel Room, He had death threats ,Couldn't Train properly because he wasn't sleeping, they were even Over salting his Food, it was all corruption, the world should know, and the real boxing World knows why there was no rematch in back in the states. The real boxing World knows Forman would of destroyed him.
Antoni PERONI I agree that if they rematches Ali would have lost.
Antoni PERONI Ali made foreman his bitch man there’s now way around it man he took punishment for rounds after rounds then dropped him man just accept it
If i have any question on boxing he is who im asking
Rest brutha
1990 - 1950 - Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis
1950 - 2000 - Muhammad Ali, Larry Holmes, Lennox Lewis
2000 - 2050 - Vitali Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko, Tyson Fury so far, but 30 more years to go, so we don't know yet ..... For everybody knocking on today's heavyweight division, saying that the 1990s heavyweight division was much better - That may be true if you look at it like that... But you can also compare it to 100 years ago from 1900 - 1920 ... and in that case I would say that 2000 - 2020 has been SIGNIFICANTLY more thrilling ... Roy Jones Jr capturing the heavyweight title in 2003, Vitali and Lennox going to war with each other in 2003, Wladimir almost breaking Joe Louis' record, then having an epic fight vs. Anthony Joshua as his last fight in 2017, and in 2020 Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder continued the madness ... Things work in cycles, and the best heavyweights are maybe yet to come.
@Gio Mejor Nope
@@Tourist-Q. Jack Johnson, Dempsey and Joe Louis beaten more bums than Marciano, Marciano atleast retired undefeated
@@tsuni7040 read my comment again ... I was referring to the three historical heavyweights between 1900-1950 ... a lot of Marciano's sucess took place in the 1950s... And you're wrong about Marciano's resume - he was brought up very slowly during his day, much like Deontay Wilder in his day ... then he defeated some great names like Walcott and Charles, but he didn't defeat them when they were great ... Joe Louis had a pretty solid record, reigned for a LONG time and still holds the records of the most title defenses (I think 25?) .... His rematch against Max Schmelling was HUGE, it sent shockwaves worldwide and went into the history books ... Joe Louis is remembered as the greatest champion in history (which was Emmanuel Steward said as well) and he was definitely a historically greater heavyweight than Rocky Marciano, and in my opinion (and in a lot of other peoples opinion) also greater than Marciano was far as in-ring skills goes ... You got some nerves to put Joe Louis in question you freaking asshole, LOL ... each bum beaten by Johnson, Dempsey and Louis would still kick your ass.
@@Tourist-Q. Marciano couldnt possibly be brought slowly he gained title 4 years after going pro, 49-0 in only 8 years. Louis title defences were pretty much overrated since he had fights every month where he would take whoever challenged him to a fight(most of them were really lower competition). Joe Louis had far greater technique but Marciano was fighting 15 rounds in phone booth, constant agression with shortest reach. People discredit Marciano too much, Dempsey fought 40 year old Willard for title and had least title defenses, Johnson fought 5'7 Burns for title and his biggest fight was against Jeffries who came out 6 year retirement.
@@tsuni7040 Go fuck yourself.
Jak dla mnie Władymir jak i Vitali mogliby znajdować się w okolicach 10 miejsca "ciężkich" wszechczasów. Mój ranking:
1. Ali.
2. Louis.
3. Johnson.
4. Foreman.
5. Tyson.
6. Marciano.
7. Lewis.
8. Frazier.
9. Holyfield.
10. Bracia Klitschko.
+dziqu Tyson at #5? Start over.
+Hastein45 Tyson is 5 but only in his prime. Probably at 9 can be Liston, Lyle, Shavers and then Klitscho's brothers have to going out of the list.
+dziqu There is no doubt that Tyson looked very good in his prime, but who did he beat that should earn him that spot? And Lyle and Shavers belong nowhere near the top-10.
Marciano only knocked down twice!
Rocky was humble, and a true champ.
@1 9 u fake looser..piece of shi....troller..no lifer
@1 9 Don't sound like a sulky looser .. you fucking racist.
yes and only for a total of 5 seconds.
Emanuel Steward best trainer ever.
Could be .. have you meet everybody?
Angelo Dundee
shockadellick Angelo had 23 world champions. Long before Ali and Leonard Angelo had Carmen Basilio and Willie Pastrano.There’s a reason why Ali wanted Angelo. Angelo wasnt exactly unknown at the time. Angelo was considered the best in the business that’s why Ali wanted him. And when I say 23 I mean from the ground up. Not after they were world champion and catching them later in their career like Manny did with Lennox Lewis and Klitschko. The only bonafide world champion that I know Manny Steward had from the ground up is Thomas Hearns. There could be others but he’s the one that sticks out.
shockadellick no lesson. Just two boxing fans exchanging information. Have a great day my friend
Rip
Ali was more of a showman then a great fighter, IMO
You're entitled to your opinion but you've either never seen Ali fight, don't understand the significance of the quality of opposition he beat or simply know bugger all about boxing. More of a showman. Sorry but this is insulting to the increadible courage and skill that Ali displayed in a 20 year professional career.
Jack Dempsey knocked out big guys
Second all of that.
he said that Tyson gave him in the last 15 years the most exiting heavyweight moments, the one who gave u the most exciting heavyweights is not in your top ten ranking? I dont' understand this guy, please helps me.
If you dont understand you are kinda moron. Sorry to break it down to you son.
Sometimes the best dunker isnt the best basketball player my friend.