The difficulty of this surely surprised me. Shame there aren't enough pops to farm up a max without regrow exploits either, but oh well Follow the stream for live boss runs: www.twitch.tv/btdisab/
The more paragon gameplay I see the more excited I get for future paragons. The insane combos in late game will be awesome, Elite boss races are going to have a great meta
Which are you most excited for? I can't wait to see what possible INCREDIBLE buffs will be given by the alchemist, another one however I think that will be VERY interesting is ACE? How is that gonna work!
@@businessman6629 I managed a 45k 105 village, but I don’t think the extra range would have helped raise the maximum for this map in particular since there are only so many places you put a farm
Honestly boat farming with Central Markets buffing might be the strat on Cabin. Plenty of space for Trade Empire and a flavored trades army, the boats are in a good spot to defend, 0-2-2 and above can pop any bloon type so you don't have to go out of your way to buy specialized defense, and you don't need to cram an absurd amount of farms in so you can save real estate for other damage-dealing or support units. Plus, flavored trades gets bonus attack speed and Trade Empire gives merchantmen damage, so even the 0-2-4 boat isn't totally slacking on defense. Lategame you can always buy carrier flagship for even more boat buffs
I used boat farming with central markets, but I only had 4 central markets and used moab maulers to take out chained moabs. I had 600k after selling all my farms to get the paragon
yeah I did that on normal and it worked pretty well so it should be good for elite too. I used tack zone brittle for the first and mad for the 2nd boss this way it was very much affordable
Paragons really need to grow like heroes do, getting max level is just so unrealistic I legit never see it happen. Also getting degree 100 shouldn't be coop restricted there should be another method.
Either have a curve in which at a certain point, it makes the paragons level up easier, or leveling just like you said. Maybe decreasing the threshold for max degree paragon too
I farmed up pops by getting the grand saboteur early, when timed nicely before a big fat wave you can get more pops than the grandmaster ninja with the ability
Why? I black bordered this map like in the first few days or so, but streambed and cracked I have just not bothered because of the rock and skull in the middle, that you have to pay to remove.
Its pretty easy in regular games, its just in boss modes its a bit awkward. Unless you go for the hyper efficient boat marketplace setup that i think Hbomb did the excell sheets for. Bassically, its 3 merchantmen, 1 central market, 3 merchantmen, 1 central market, 4 merchantmen, 1 merchantmen to trade empire, build up to 20 merchantmen upgrade all to favoured trades, then build up to 10 central markets. The efficiency numbers get kinda ridiculous, quickly surpassing banks. And its a lot of income per round to boot. Plus its all your defence for non boss rounds.
Hey ISAB, how is it going? I just wanted to thank you for your content, I love watching your vids late night (11 pm is normally when it comes in my timezone). I work all day and at night I have university, and I just love to relax watching you videos before I go to sleep. Thanks again, and pls don't stop. Why I am a 18 year's older that watches moke kids game? Idk man
I'm surprised I BB this map It's so awkwardly laid out that my usual CHIMPS setup died on R82 since there was no good spot for an AoW + Poplust army without an Ice platform and the lack of space made Apop and Impoppable annoying for farming I ended up using Ettiene + Flagship + Shredder for CHIMPS As for Lych Almost died twice on T4 due to DDTs on normal
@@bloonyapprentice4340 yeah true. it def reminds me of the intermate btd5 map with the logs and water space in the middle, forgot what the btd5 map was called.
This boss was so hard, I lost to the elite with all 3 paragons above degree 30 and a vengeful sun god with all the buffs I could give without healing him.
There's a spot in the trees to the left where you can place a farm and almost not see it, if you start with a farm there you can fit one extra farm on this map. Also, I like using a 5-2-0 Buccaneer on this map and putting two of the paragons on the top deck.
@@vyor8837 you probably can if you use money creates to farm A LOT and if you somehow have all the fifth tier ninjas with shnobies and baloonjistus you can pop all of the normal rounds and a lot of the leach and probably like that you can reach 16.2 million pops and if you think about it normal baloonarious is beatable with only ninjas and i know leach is a bit faster but in a really easy map you can beat all the first 3 stars and you can do most of the damage to the tier four and like that it should be possible? And you can increase the pops just a bit more with letting lych revive the moabs so is should be barely possible?
You might have gotten the word wrong. I'm pretty sure that the glitch actually decreases the paragon level by TEN DEGREES, which means that you shouldn't use the free Dart Monkey for a Dart Paragon. How does 200 dollars make that much of a difference....
The free dart has nothing to do with it, dart paragon degree is just kinda buggy. For some reason it gets extra degree if it isn't the first paragon you buy, and sometimes it just gets extra degree for seemingly no reason at all
I beat t5 normal with only ninja paragon, mad, cripple, super brittle, and angry druid man (forgot the name) The paragon was paragon degree 5 (I got those 4 from using ninja sticky bomb for boss 1)
My girlfriend and I figured out the easiest way to do it. You just pick a player and everybody floods them with money to get a good farm set-up (preferably the player with the best position on the map), then proceed to play normally. Quite literally only one person plays until the farms are up and running. Co-op is far easier than single player, because you can get multiple MAD's.
hey isab love the vids idk if its just me but i would love to see a video of you ranking all the towers and heros in the current patch from best to worse in both early mid and late rounds
Thematically speaking, I think the paragons are already masters, with no more room to grow. For instance, ninja paragon doesn't need the assistance of other ninjas to find openings to strike true (which is what I believe "shinobi tactics" implies) and the eventual druid paragon will likely already embody an unceasing rage. Avatar of Wrath gets angrier when there's more bloons, but druid paragon would be angry all the time. Poplust wouldn't do anything because he simply can't get angrier. Gameplay-wise though, I might agree. I'm not really sure how I feel about that one way or the other. To have a ninja that doesn't benefit from shinobi tactics is a little sus.
As I played Elite I have had so many struggles and it was even very close with all Paragons between 30-50 + Vengeful + other towers.. I want Bloonarius back :
What I'd like is some data on the spending or # of T4s for each paragon level. IDK, I've filled entire screen with T4s & still only get mid 30s paragon.
only a certain amount of t4s can be sacrificed to gain paragon level, the rest can only be gained through pops and having extra T5s on Co-op. You need roughly 16 million pops across ninjas for max paragon
Do a drop challenge where you have monkeys that drop stuff like engi 5 0 2 if you already have a drop upgrade you can buy any upgrade else. i got to 92
No mad rush of lesser bloons, Lych has lesser health, and it's faster. That's pretty dangerous, but once you defeat it, you have plenty of time to farm.
Hey ISAB, can you please do a game where you see how long you can possibly survive with the best monkeys in the game. I dont know if you can but please :).
I have a round 305 save on that one snow map with the fountain in the middle, not optimal defenses and Bloons make it about just over half the map, I have used a portable lake for energizer and a Carrier Flagship for the Temple buff. I’d guess with 100% optimal setup, Logs, and 100s of hours, you could get to at least 650 probably further. Maybe not that far but who knows.
You have a very short amount of time after hitting the button to turn the t5's into the paragon before the screen goes away and you can view the paragon level
I don't like Elite Lych, this is the second week where I give up, I have the 3 paragons and I can't kill tier 5, last week I even had a vtsg on top of the 3 paragons and the last skull killed me.
What degrees are your paragons? For this weeks, I was able to beat him with a degree 41 dart, 32 ninja, and 30 glaive, alongside all the high damaging towers and debuffs.
The difficulty of this surely surprised me. Shame there aren't enough pops to farm up a max without regrow exploits either, but oh well
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ISAB Chinooking his M.A.D. to smuggle overclocks is the funniest thing I've seen all week
mad: oh crap he about to steal my buff
chinhook: big yoink
Why is chinooking so funny to my lizard brain
Yeah hahahahahahaha
Lych: Haha, you can't be powerful without being stunned! mwu haha
Chinook: You sure about that?
POG
The more paragon gameplay I see the more excited I get for future paragons. The insane combos in late game will be awesome, Elite boss races are going to have a great meta
Which are you most excited for? I can't wait to see what possible INCREDIBLE buffs will be given by the alchemist, another one however I think that will be VERY interesting is ACE? How is that gonna work!
@@ivyknightproductions5997 for me personally, tack and heli. 😅👍
@@ivyknightproductions5997 might sound kinda basic but honestly I’m most excited for the Super Monkey
@@dominicsc9225 the legendary 10m paragon
Engineer paragon is probably going to be fun
This week's lych was harder than last weeks. Simply because of lack of farming space. It basically forces you to merchantman strat.
There is tons on the left side u just have to deal with the trees
I got a 45k 005 village
@@Luke-sx7nq why didn’t you use 1-0-5 for more range?
@@businessman6629 I managed a 45k 105 village, but I don’t think the extra range would have helped raise the maximum for this map in particular since there are only so many places you put a farm
It was impossible for me to do lych on last week, this week I just beat lych for first time
Title: can we beat elite lych with a high degree ninja paragon?
Video: can we beat elite lych?
I mean it is the worst map to do this test on.
Haha yeah he was doing some crazy micros despite having infinite money half the game 😂
Honestly boat farming with Central Markets buffing might be the strat on Cabin. Plenty of space for Trade Empire and a flavored trades army, the boats are in a good spot to defend, 0-2-2 and above can pop any bloon type so you don't have to go out of your way to buy specialized defense, and you don't need to cram an absurd amount of farms in so you can save real estate for other damage-dealing or support units.
Plus, flavored trades gets bonus attack speed and Trade Empire gives merchantmen damage, so even the 0-2-4 boat isn't totally slacking on defense. Lategame you can always buy carrier flagship for even more boat buffs
I used boat farming with central markets, but I only had 4 central markets and used moab maulers to take out chained moabs.
I had 600k after selling all my farms to get the paragon
yeah I did that on normal and it worked pretty well so it should be good for elite too. I used tack zone brittle for the first and mad for the 2nd boss this way it was very much affordable
Paragons really need to grow like heroes do, getting max level is just so unrealistic I legit never see it happen. Also getting degree 100 shouldn't be coop restricted there should be another method.
Either have a curve in which at a certain point, it makes the paragons level up easier, or leveling just like you said. Maybe decreasing the threshold for max degree paragon too
Yes it would be cool if you could get a paragon, then progressively do more sacrifices to level it up throughout the game maybe
geraldo
Geraldo says this aged well
Well 6 months later your wish of non coop max has been granted by the more awesomer gods
I farmed up pops by getting the grand saboteur early, when timed nicely before a big fat wave you can get more pops than the grandmaster ninja with the ability
It's pretty weird how Cracked and Streambed are considered Intermediate maps by Ninjakiwi, but this one is Beginner. Should be the other way around.
Why? I black bordered this map like in the first few days or so, but streambed and cracked I have just not bothered because of the rock and skull in the middle, that you have to pay to remove.
Honestly what makes this map hard for boss Bloons is the small space for farms compared to cracked and streambed
No, this map is pretty easy. Not intermediate.
Its pretty easy in regular games, its just in boss modes its a bit awkward. Unless you go for the hyper efficient boat marketplace setup that i think Hbomb did the excell sheets for. Bassically, its 3 merchantmen, 1 central market, 3 merchantmen, 1 central market, 4 merchantmen, 1 merchantmen to trade empire, build up to 20 merchantmen upgrade all to favoured trades, then build up to 10 central markets. The efficiency numbers get kinda ridiculous, quickly surpassing banks. And its a lot of income per round to boot. Plus its all your defence for non boss rounds.
@@Santisima_Trinidad *flavored* trades
2:15 I think this is the most I've heard ISAB laugh and it's actually really wholesome. o.o
bruh what
ISAB defeating the elite lych over and over:
Me who can’t even beat round 95: 😐
use archmage or ground zero
Moab glue and bloon sabotage helps out a lot during that round, keep in mind that moab glue can't see camos naturally.
Preemptive destroys (middle path sub) with camo village.
And then have something to deal with the insides like tack zone and mib
prince of darkness is a godsend on begginer maps
Sub commander army with mib and a 4-0-1 alchemist do wonder for me, beat 2 chimps map that way with a help of a 2-0-3 dark knight and 4-2-0 sniper.
Watched the live streamed version, so I know how many tries this took. Good work on the video, and keep it up
Hey ISAB, how is it going? I just wanted to thank you for your content, I love watching your vids late night (11 pm is normally when it comes in my timezone). I work all day and at night I have university, and I just love to relax watching you videos before I go to sleep. Thanks again, and pls don't stop. Why I am a 18 year's older that watches moke kids game? Idk man
5:54 0-0-0 dart doing his part
0-0-0 dart monke is the best, like he just one shotted that moab
I'm surprised I BB this map
It's so awkwardly laid out that my usual CHIMPS setup died on R82 since there was no good spot for an AoW + Poplust army without an Ice platform and the lack of space made Apop and Impoppable annoying for farming
I ended up using Ettiene + Flagship + Shredder for CHIMPS
As for Lych Almost died twice on T4 due to DDTs on normal
For t4 you need 1011 400 temple 500 and 005 hell and also 005 ace
@@Isxiahprodfl He's talking about how he bb this map
Not
Temple
Sacrifices
This map is kinda short for a beginner map tbh
Middle path sniper spam easy bb's this map lol
@@bloonyapprentice4340 yeah true. it def reminds me of the intermate btd5 map with the logs and water space in the middle, forgot what the btd5 map was called.
The reason I love isab is because he’s not like in your face, super high energy, and clickbait. He just gets to the point
Who would win?
A ninja who mastered all sorts of ways to destroy even the biggest of the bloons
Or
One dart boi
Dart boi
This boss was so hard, I lost to the elite with all 3 paragons above degree 30 and a vengeful sun god with all the buffs I could give without healing him.
@@phantasmaldeathrayz3113 yeah
Huh.. didnt know they added co-op for the boss blimps
yeah they did with the release of lych
There's a spot in the trees to the left where you can place a farm and almost not see it, if you start with a farm there you can fit one extra farm on this map. Also, I like using a 5-2-0 Buccaneer on this map and putting two of the paragons on the top deck.
5:53 the true power of 0-0-0 dart monkey
3 sticky bombs and a Moab shove, at this point you could have bought a tack zone
Love how he changed the title after geraldo came out
I dont understand how you are so good at this game 👏👏
He plays it, like, A LOT
U can place farms in the trees in some spots, the map is bigger than it looks
Petition to start calling Elite Lych
Elych
E - lee - ch
There's an extra farm spot next to the one beside the bottom part of the lake. There is enough room between trees on the left to place a farm.
You can place like 4 farms in the trees btw
5:42 “definitely do not follow this run”
me who can’t beat it: ….oh
You can get a 9 farm opolis if you place farms in the trees
No way loved this video, I’ve defiantly watched all of it!!!
Yeah me too, it’s not like the video released 3 minutes ago…
@@durpdood3993 He watched it on 10x speed lol
@@kuragari2385 ah yes copy the video and edit it to make it go 10x faster
Good work, comrade. Keep the algorithm going 👍
2:23 relatable
With how frustratingly difficult this looked, I'm going to say no.
İ think with amazing execution and a bit easyer map level 76 ninja paragon would solo it
You can't get a level 76 without regrow farming
@@vyor8837 you probably can if you use money creates to farm A LOT and if you somehow have all the fifth tier ninjas with shnobies and baloonjistus you can pop all of the normal rounds and a lot of the leach and probably like that you can reach 16.2 million pops
and if you think about it normal baloonarious is beatable with only ninjas and i know leach is a bit faster but in a really easy map you can beat all the first 3 stars and you can do most of the damage to the tier four and like that it should be possible?
And you can increase the pops just a bit more with letting lych revive the moabs so is should be barely possible?
@@alpkangul655 it isn't the money, it's the pops. There aren't enough of them before round 120
You might have gotten the word wrong. I'm pretty sure that the glitch actually decreases the paragon level by TEN DEGREES, which means that you shouldn't use the free Dart Monkey for a Dart Paragon. How does 200 dollars make that much of a difference....
The free dart has nothing to do with it, dart paragon degree is just kinda buggy. For some reason it gets extra degree if it isn't the first paragon you buy, and sometimes it just gets extra degree for seemingly no reason at all
A Paragon Only run could be cool. Only damage towers the entire game can be dart, boomer, and ninja
I beat t5 normal with only ninja paragon, mad, cripple, super brittle, and angry druid man (forgot the name)
The paragon was paragon degree 5 (I got those 4 from using ninja sticky bomb for boss 1)
Avatar of wrath?
@@BunnyOnASnuman oh yes lol
Avatar of wrath will now be known as Angry Druid Man.
No matter what I tried I couldn’t do elite in coop. Just couldn’t get the money
My girlfriend and I figured out the easiest way to do it. You just pick a player and everybody floods them with money to get a good farm set-up (preferably the player with the best position on the map), then proceed to play normally. Quite literally only one person plays until the farms are up and running.
Co-op is far easier than single player, because you can get multiple MAD's.
@@SethAndrew52 That requires cooperation. Ahem, Player 3…
hey isab love the vids idk if its just me but i would love to see a video of you ranking all the towers and heros in the current patch from best to worse in both early mid and late rounds
Imagine using tier 5 insta monkeys to get ninja paragon MEGA early
Why dont you ever get laser shock on your M.A.D's? Is it because of purple balloons? I thought it gave it more dps
Paragons should be able to be buffed by tower exclusive buffs like shinobi and poplust
Thematically speaking, I think the paragons are already masters, with no more room to grow. For instance, ninja paragon doesn't need the assistance of other ninjas to find openings to strike true (which is what I believe "shinobi tactics" implies) and the eventual druid paragon will likely already embody an unceasing rage. Avatar of Wrath gets angrier when there's more bloons, but druid paragon would be angry all the time. Poplust wouldn't do anything because he simply can't get angrier.
Gameplay-wise though, I might agree. I'm not really sure how I feel about that one way or the other. To have a ninja that doesn't benefit from shinobi tactics is a little sus.
@@Zebo12345678 im not saying that they arent powerful enough it just feels fitting
Good video keep up the good work
Kind of a dumb question but how can you use powers in lych because mine are always locked, good video!
If you turn off ranked mode, you can use powers
They're locked in ranked
I did this glitch once place free dart then 3 more up grade the days free to last placed then turn last upgraded into paragon
what do you need to get t6 cus i have t6 but cant buy it ik you need like all the t5 ninjas but im confused
0:09 hm visual bug on the elite boss button - it locked after isab clicked start boss event
As I played Elite I have had so many struggles and it was even very close with all Paragons between 30-50 + Vengeful + other towers.. I want Bloonarius back :
isaaab pls explain how u know what degree itis before it spawns
I'm pretty sure Lych's drain moab doesn't take away lives when it exits as a chained moab does.
It does, ive died to it many times
A 0-2-3 heli actually makes MOAB Shove more effective
Question, what does overclock do to the 520 banana farm, because the money value from it is the same
It makes it get more bananas
@@markmercy11 ohhhhhh
Nice Vid isab
What I'd like is some data on the spending or # of T4s for each paragon level. IDK, I've filled entire screen with T4s & still only get mid 30s paragon.
only a certain amount of t4s can be sacrificed to gain paragon level, the rest can only be gained through pops and having extra T5s on Co-op. You need roughly 16 million pops across ninjas for max paragon
What if you make 3rd and 4th teir lych heal to get more paragon pops or dose that not work
15:00 it gets higher when you don’t use the free dart
In the name of science! Thanks ISAB :)
10:42 wtf bloonarius theme ?
Do a drop challenge where you have monkeys that drop stuff like engi 5 0 2 if you already have a drop upgrade you can buy any upgrade else. i got to 92
you can actually get quite a lot of farms, i mangeged to fit around 8 farms.
As of rn im in 48th place on time defeated on mini boss. Got bored in school 🏫 yktv
No mad rush of lesser bloons, Lych has lesser health, and it's faster. That's pretty dangerous, but once you defeat it, you have plenty of time to farm.
5:35 NOT EVEN CLOSE MAN
I think there is a rumor about that you can only get a maxed paragon in co-op just maybe...
Why were red 'x's flashing at 11:50?
@TheBananLord oh huh, didn't realize there was a visual for that
This boss is silly op xD I beat it on normal wasn’t to bad after getting the hang of it but elite is insane
Beat lych with @Tewity and @Superjombombo
The prince of darkness probaly controls the lych Lol
I got 60k monkeyopolist at roung 75 and it makes somewhere at 100k at 76
The free monkey in the corner be sad
18:10 look the lifes
Trust me brickell is really op for this every mega mine does you bar to skull of health to geranteed
why do you never get laser shock on mad?
Why level 60 for the thumbnail? I thought ISAB would put the max level for single player is all.
Hey ISAB, can you please do a game where you see how long you can possibly survive with the best monkeys in the game. I dont know if you can but please :).
I dont think he will but just so you know i have vengeful and the three paragons rn, 185 i believe is my save
I have a round 305 save on that one snow map with the fountain in the middle, not optimal defenses and Bloons make it about just over half the map, I have used a portable lake for energizer and a Carrier Flagship for the Temple buff. I’d guess with 100% optimal setup, Logs, and 100s of hours, you could get to at least 650 probably further. Maybe not that far but who knows.
@@IAmSuchSkillMan Awesome thanks :)
Paragon moment
At 18:20, how did he know that the ninja paragon's degree is 60 when it has not shown on the screen yet, guys?
Regrow Farms too OP?
Could psy have potential against the chained moabs?
If they will even level quickly enough
you cant get lvl 14 by round 40 lole psy is terrible
no ben for this challenge suckedddd. i used étienne for camo detetction but sauda seems like a much better choice lmao.
this week is hard no ben,hard mode and not to much farms in monkey opolyess
Cool Keep it up!
that bloon pop animation is kinda sus
I love seeing what this guy is up to :)
I'm pretty sure they intended it to be pronounced like "leech" because of how it leeches the buffs and selling lol
That's what I've been saying
I beat this Lych with super buffed Sea Temple
Forgot gluegunner ability
Does anybody else think that ISAB sounds like XQC if he spoke actual English?
How does he know what degree they are before it even shows?
It’s so annoying because it’s practically impossible to get a max paragon without regrow farming forever or 4 players
1. How is he placing monkeys on water?
2. How does he know a paragon's level before the level is on screen?
Ice monkey has an upgrade that freezes water in its range
You have a very short amount of time after hitting the button to turn the t5's into the paragon before the screen goes away and you can view the paragon level
I don’t really feel like using regrow farms is cheating or anything bad, but I get not doing it cause I imagine it’s quite boring farm
I don't like Elite Lych, this is the second week where I give up, I have the 3 paragons and I can't kill tier 5, last week I even had a vtsg on top of the 3 paragons and the last skull killed me.
What degrees are your paragons? For this weeks, I was able to beat him with a degree 41 dart, 32 ninja, and 30 glaive, alongside all the high damaging towers and debuffs.
Hello I'm new to the channel have a great day/night.🙂
I played and I got like a 73 paragon solo I’m so confused why’d that happen
You can only do it with dart paragon
@@sunbleachedangel Max is 76 for solo; I think can get up to 79.
@@sunbleachedangel bro but i got it with dart im so confused maybe that happen ebcause of the vengeful adora and temple buff
Okay, max level paragon in single player is 76 for all paragons except dart, which can have an extra tier 5 tower so its max is 79
nice video
Indubitably
To perform the degree 30 dart paragon bug, I believe the most recently placed T5 dart monkey has to be the one to transform into the paragon.
I'm pretty sure that's not how it works
@@ThePickleUnderMyBed do you know how to do it then
please do a sun avatar 2 mil pops
They should add something that boosts the pop count of a tower but not damage, solely for making paragons