The recent effects size slider change is certainly nice to have... even though late game is still powerpoint simulator with it at 0. Update 38 is also out now 👀 check out the boss showcase I did on it as that should also go live pretty soon: ua-cam.com/video/w_sSOFqxqIQ/v-deo.html
There used to be a mod which let paragons gain tiers based on their pop count, it was pretty cool since you could buy it at level one and after several rounds check-up on it and it would be like tier 20.
@@draco4569 It's been a long time since I last played it. There had been some big update (boat paragon release iirc), and the creator had taken a longer time than normal to update the mod, if he even ever did. If it was kept up to date since then, it might still be up on the btd6 modding discord. Not too sure.
Eh I feel like that would at max double his damage, because he one shots zomgs, which have a ton of hp late game, but no way they make it one shot bads.
I love the combinations of the Dart and Boomerang Paragon's upgrade sprites and the depth of the Doomship's sprite. edit: I just want to clarify I am not in production of any of the replies down below such as certain ones...
actually the geraldo totem numbers work out very nicely if you have all the requirements, you need 45 totems in single player, and then each player of coop accounts for 15 totems, (one 5th tier is the equivalent of 5 totems), so in two player its 30 totems, 3 player its 15 totems, and in 4 player you have exactly enough points to get a degree 100 with 0 totems.
@@TBTornado yep little metal math checks out you could have done it that way but this comment is kinda outdated because of the new paragon system with the money slider, im pretty sure you can do it with only 2 player now or in 1 player with much fewer totems
I really enjoy these lengthy super late game videos. It shows the extent of ISAB's skill and knowledge outside of Battles 2, which is pretty satisfying imo.
Lategame when it’s literally just pick as many op towers and try not to fry your pc This was only a challenge because isab was focusing on getting paragons, and didn’t get any actual strong dps until it was super late
@@Ben-YesMe Been subbed to him for a while now. His videos are probably what got me really into super late game content because of the amount of strategy you can squeeze in when given various limitations.
@@SMJBluefire There's actual strategy involved with reaching late game, so it's not as simple as picking op towers and hoping for the best. Trying to get all max degree paragons alone before the ramping catches up to you is challenging. The map and restrictions are also a huge factor that can force you to change what towers you want to use and in what order. I do understand how boring and monotonous it can get though, so I'm just throwing my opinion out there in hopes that he'll occasionally make these kinds of videos once in a while.
Those that are asking, it is most likely that SupremeAvacado got Round 3440 on Impoppable due to an earlier version of the game. Also, it's no surprise that getting 7 Degree 100 Paragons without mods nor Co-op would take frickin' forever.
It’s insane to see how hard the game is now. I remember back about 5 years ago I got to 680 I think? Somewhere in the upper 600’s. No paragons. No vengeful. And I did that on moon landing 😂😂😂 free play couldn’t scale fast enough back then.
They should really make a "low graphics mode" to use in late game rounds where everything is very simplified but can only be accessed in-game after round 100 to avoid cheeses. The one issue with this game is that its not very graphics-friendly since in late game there are so many projectiles that have to be calculated at once. A potential way they could do this is by: - Applying a constant DPS on bloons from single-target towers like a x-0-x sniper and applying the stunning effect on towers like 4-0-x and 5-0-x snipers every amount of time it takes to do 1 shot - For glaive ricochet and other target-seeking projectiles do the same but to all of the closest bloons to the targeted bloon until it hits the pierce cap. For towers like the wizard which technically seek but usually expire first, that pierce cap could be adjusted specifically for low graphics mode to have close balancing to the main game. - For explosions apply the DPS to bloons inside the radius of the bomb's explosion radius (until it hits the pierce cap). For towers like the recursive cluster this damage would be adjusted for balancing. Also, the offset on the mortar's inaccuracy would be simplified into basically a grid that roughly forms a circle around the target thing, which would have something like 64 potential different landing points that would follow an "RNG" pattern based on the time you launched the game (not like that would make a difference though). - idek just make bloon's hitboxes simpler I've had enough ranting about something that wont ever happen
For anyone trying this at home: 1. Do boat paragon last, it’s global range makes it difficult to get the pops requirement on later paragons 2. Put the weakest tier 5 at the back of the track and every other tower at the front. This way, you can place your paragon at the back while still taking as many pops as possible (this can also be done using chinook heli) 3. Do the hardest paragons first, this negates the chance of other paragons stealing pops
If you had the alchemist a little sooner, it probably could have beaten the boat paragon in pops. Very laggy but thanks for doing what I would never attempt to do since I am bad at BTD6.
@@Acovado_bs chimps is red or black, red is for restarting or exiting to home and black is for completing it the whole way through, yellow and black is the borders around the maps
They might need to buff the wizard paragon considering it’s one of the most expensive but even in it’s bugged super powerful state where it is several times better than normal it could not out damage the ninja paragon. When he got the wizard the ninja paragon has ~200,000,000 million pops. By the end of the game the ninja had more than 800,000,000 million more pops than the ninja paragon.
I was VERY surprised he went for the boat first, because when I try this challenge I get boat last because the way I see it the boat paragon takes a LOT of pops.
I love the ace paragon literally amazing, I kinda wish their attack was like the flying fortresses and not the neva miss, and still had pineapple or bomber ace bombs
for the thumbnail you couldve made the paragon image smaller and put doomship up top since its a symmetrical sprite, that way you can split the dart and boomer paragon.
Btd 6 is largely a situational game and I enjoy that a lot for instance what’s meta in the regular game does almost nothing to the bosses and what’s good for boss events kinda sucks in the base game then throw on top of that multiple maps each with their own gimmicks and metas and i honesty think someone could 100% btd 6 without getting bored it would just take time
1:35 Um, ackshually *pushes up glasses* what you meant to say was a portable lake, not a pontoon. You see, portable lakes are able to house monkey buccaneers and other water-based towers and can be placed on land, while pontoons are able to house ground-based towers and can be placed on water. 🤓🤓🤓
If BTD6 follows modern game design paradigms, Wall of Fire spawns far away from any bloons shouldn’t have many calculations compared to “active” projectiles.
27:21 if you wanted to see the true champion on this run you would’ve done a 0-5-0 ninja with a 5-0-0 sub and spammed the ability. You would’ve very quickly out scaled the other paragons. 😂😂
@@HardxCorpsxKali you clearly have no knowledge of how this game works. The slowdown is 50& but the ability, both activated on the 0-5-0 and the passive on the paragon are -25&.
You should try some challenge like this MONKEYS (M) No Max towers (tier 5) (O) Overpriced towers (Impoppable costs) (N) Normal Chimps rules (in addition to these) (K) Kill Hero (No hero allowed) (E) Extra Rounds (Rounds 6-120) (Y) Yes, you have to win (S) No stalling towers
I once decided to mess around and got degree 30 paragon on buccaneer,ninja and engineer,after I got the rest of paragons on degree one. I also got every powerful tier 5 and got round 265 and stoped from lag
Imagine in BTD6, you and your (friend(s)) try to make Pat Fusty as strong as you guys could. You (or a friend) will have Pat Fusty selected, and have Pat Fusty placed in water (no, there is not a glitch nor a mod where you place Pat Fusty in water, it’s legit). If playing with a friend, have one of you use Admiral Brickell or Geraldo to buff Pat Fusty. If playing with two friends, one you guys will use Pat Fusty, Admiral Brickell, and Geraldo. If it’s done in 4 players, one of you will use a hero that can at least support Pat Fusty.
No Regrow farmin you say? It's funny that they changed it in this 38.0 update: "Similar to cash earnings, ‘Regrown’ Bloons will now no longer count towards increasing a tower’s damage stat when they are popped repeatedly." No need to worry anymore about 2 TC and other challenges but yeah, it'll be harder to farm for Paragons if someone did that using that method.
It's all relative, once you get up to past r200 the pops just come so quickly all towers have enough by r300 but in order to get there the Navarch makes it far easier than the other paragons.
@@fredkelly6953 true but if you want to get all paragons in a reasonable amount of time and not wait 50 hours for a round to end, navarch is gotten last.
The recent effects size slider change is certainly nice to have... even though late game is still powerpoint simulator with it at 0.
Update 38 is also out now 👀 check out the boss showcase I did on it as that should also go live pretty soon: ua-cam.com/video/w_sSOFqxqIQ/v-deo.html
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The Boat Paragon has gotta feel quite bad when a dude with a potion almost had as much pops as him.
Round of applause for BMA 👏
The BMA can get like 30 times the pops of a Vengeful, it's actually insane
The boats passive hooks slow down as the hp scales, but the bma literally doesn’t care.
@@ThebiggestgordonBMA one shots anything that's not a BAD regardless of scaling
not only that, the potion guy looked like he was on vacation fighting bloons lol
It’ll consistently match a vengeful it’s busted and it’s great
The fact, that the BMA got placed 170 rounds after the boat paragon and got only 100M pops less is insane
BMA my love
@@champion4223 BMA my robber this little shit steals all my mone
He also didnt even get bigger potions on it
There used to be a mod which let paragons gain tiers based on their pop count, it was pretty cool since you could buy it at level one and after several rounds check-up on it and it would be like tier 20.
What happened to that mod? Is it still around?
@@draco4569 It's been a long time since I last played it. There had been some big update (boat paragon release iirc), and the creator had taken a longer time than normal to update the mod, if he even ever did. If it was kept up to date since then, it might still be up on the btd6 modding discord. Not too sure.
Wow, 3.6 billion on a tower that costs couple 100 times less than any paragon
Cant target bads tho
Dont judge a tower by its cost
@@OverallBadFr
Its want even crosspathed
@@OverallBad extremely op in freeplay, but extremely bad in normal situation. So not rlly.
If the BMA is doing that much damage, I shudder to imagine what the alchemist paragon will look like.
They will probably make it a 5-5-3 Alchemist knowing ninja kiwi
Eh I feel like that would at max double his damage, because he one shots zomgs, which have a ton of hp late game, but no way they make it one shot bads.
@@nathanide2056 hopefully they at least give him map wide perma brew or somthing.
If they are making an alch paragon, it kind if has to buff other paragons right??
they gave that to boomerang so it would definitely make sense for the alch@@derontanzil6939
I love the combinations of the Dart and Boomerang Paragon's upgrade sprites and the depth of the Doomship's sprite.
edit: I just want to clarify I am not in production of any of the replies down below such as certain ones...
I had no choice as there was no way of making 7 icons look symmetrical/good at all lol
@@BTDIsab I want to cuddle with you, forget sauda and take me bro fr fr
@@littleman4925wtf is wrong with you
@@BTDIsab im loving the fact that you are reading and listening to the comments, W bloon popper
@@BTDIsabyou could've done the same for Navarch with Doomship for Military
actually the geraldo totem numbers work out very nicely
if you have all the requirements, you need 45 totems in single player, and then each player of coop accounts for 15 totems, (one 5th tier is the equivalent of 5 totems), so in two player its 30 totems, 3 player its 15 totems, and in 4 player you have exactly enough points to get a degree 100 with 0 totems.
Are you dumb bro in coop everyone gets the 3 tier 5s and it's all done 😂
bro. your calculations make sense
It can be done with no totems with three if everyone has two crossbow masters for dart monkey paragon (i think)
@@TBTornado yep little metal math checks out you could have done it that way but this comment is kinda outdated because of the new paragon system with the money slider, im pretty sure you can do it with only 2 player now or in 1 player with much fewer totems
@@aldenstromberg7273 yeah, but without the less efficient money slider and just maxing out the power
I really enjoy these lengthy super late game videos. It shows the extent of ISAB's skill and knowledge outside of Battles 2, which is pretty satisfying imo.
Late game is just pick op towers and hope ur pc don’t crash. Haven’t you ever seen an actual ISAB video where he does challenges?
Take a look at Mackan rules then, he specialises in this stuff and his highest round ever video is insane
Lategame when it’s literally just pick as many op towers and try not to fry your pc
This was only a challenge because isab was focusing on getting paragons, and didn’t get any actual strong dps until it was super late
@@Ben-YesMe Been subbed to him for a while now. His videos are probably what got me really into super late game content because of the amount of strategy you can squeeze in when given various limitations.
@@SMJBluefire There's actual strategy involved with reaching late game, so it's not as simple as picking op towers and hoping for the best. Trying to get all max degree paragons alone before the ramping catches up to you is challenging. The map and restrictions are also a huge factor that can force you to change what towers you want to use and in what order.
I do understand how boring and monotonous it can get though, so I'm just throwing my opinion out there in hopes that he'll occasionally make these kinds of videos once in a while.
Those that are asking, it is most likely that SupremeAvacado got Round 3440 on Impoppable due to an earlier version of the game.
Also, it's no surprise that getting 7 Degree 100 Paragons without mods nor Co-op would take frickin' forever.
SupremeAvacado is just better
It’s insane to see how hard the game is now. I remember back about 5 years ago I got to 680 I think? Somewhere in the upper 600’s. No paragons. No vengeful. And I did that on moon landing 😂😂😂 free play couldn’t scale fast enough back then.
I think the whole lesson learned from this video is that the BMA is easily the best late game tower
They should really make a "low graphics mode" to use in late game rounds where everything is very simplified but can only be accessed in-game after round 100 to avoid cheeses. The one issue with this game is that its not very graphics-friendly since in late game there are so many projectiles that have to be calculated at once. A potential way they could do this is by:
- Applying a constant DPS on bloons from single-target towers like a x-0-x sniper and applying the stunning effect on towers like 4-0-x and 5-0-x snipers every amount of time it takes to do 1 shot
- For glaive ricochet and other target-seeking projectiles do the same but to all of the closest bloons to the targeted bloon until it hits the pierce cap. For towers like the wizard which technically seek but usually expire first, that pierce cap could be adjusted specifically for low graphics mode to have close balancing to the main game.
- For explosions apply the DPS to bloons inside the radius of the bomb's explosion radius (until it hits the pierce cap). For towers like the recursive cluster this damage would be adjusted for balancing. Also, the offset on the mortar's inaccuracy would be simplified into basically a grid that roughly forms a circle around the target thing, which would have something like 64 potential different landing points that would follow an "RNG" pattern based on the time you launched the game (not like that would make a difference though).
- idek just make bloon's hitboxes simpler I've had enough ranting about something that wont ever happen
Ow, my brain
@@Thybaguettman my bad
@Thebaguettman I understanded it perfectly, skill issue ong
@@ChrisMaster2 understood*
0:42 Fun fact: Regrow Farming for pops is now patched in 38.0; ISAB played in 37.0
Nk being gay as usualy
For anyone trying this at home:
1. Do boat paragon last, it’s global range makes it difficult to get the pops requirement on later paragons
2. Put the weakest tier 5 at the back of the track and every other tower at the front. This way, you can place your paragon at the back while still taking as many pops as possible (this can also be done using chinook heli)
3. Do the hardest paragons first, this negates the chance of other paragons stealing pops
If you had the alchemist a little sooner, it probably could have beaten the boat paragon in pops. Very laggy but thanks for doing what I would never attempt to do since I am bad at BTD6.
Thank you ISAB, for challenging God himself
Truly a story to behold, with the power of a king.
Ah... free at last. O Gabriel... now dawns thy reckoning, and thy gore shall glisten before the temples of man!
No
I rebuke this comment in Jesus name
Not here too
0:12 round 3440 on chimps?? wth😂
Cubism must be the easiest map
@@ThePiGuy3.14logs be like
it’s just hard mode, chimps would be the black medal
@@connorshmeatYellow and Black, That is chimps mode
@@Acovado_bs chimps is red or black, red is for restarting or exiting to home and black is for completing it the whole way through, yellow and black is the borders around the maps
They might need to buff the wizard paragon considering it’s one of the most expensive but even in it’s bugged super powerful state where it is several times better than normal it could not out damage the ninja paragon.
When he got the wizard the ninja paragon has ~200,000,000 million pops. By the end of the game the ninja had more than 800,000,000 million more pops than the ninja paragon.
Yea is not friendly with nothing and is not synergy a lot more with paragons no no only on paper 🤦♂️.
Dyslxeia Gang ryse op 🤘
Wizard with bug should deal more raw damage than ninja. But ninja now has that perma grand sabo so... its now the best late game paragon
Fire video as always. can’t wait to see the next one one the Banana farm paragon comes out
Supreme Avocado's max round on Cubism 💀
glad I'm not the only one to notice xD
Impoppable too XD
ISAB, what tower paragon are you most looking forward to (obviously that isn’t currently released)?
I think a glue paragon would be interesting.
I’m not isab but I would be interested in the village the first support paragon probably edit I meant support as in help/buff
@@icecream5125 yeah I was about to correct you
tack shooter paragon, i want to see something try to compete with super mines
The paragon money adder slider now lets you get a degree 100 with 25 totems (if you have max pops and max the slider)
Thank you ISAB For getting so many Paragons!
Nice, I wanted to see it with the wizard paragon
Been loving the volume of ISAB content recently
most of the time i dont understand what ISAB is saying because of farming math and all of that, but i still love watching his content
"So I think if they add anymore Paragons than this, the challenge may not be doable." *CHALLENGE ACCEPTED FOR UPDATE 40*
Thank you ISAB for asserting your glaive dominance
I love your videos and tutorials, lets pop more bloons together!
I was VERY surprised he went for the boat first, because when I try this challenge I get boat last because the way I see it the boat paragon takes a LOT of pops.
What do you think😏
To be honest getting all paragons to degree 100 without any regrowth farm is really though. Nice challange!
No other way to do it solo anyway
@@michaelkaram467i mean, did you watch the video?
I love the ace paragon literally amazing, I kinda wish their attack was like the flying fortresses and not the neva miss, and still had pineapple or bomber ace bombs
I was in stream and i saw how close you were to losing many times and I just wanna say congrats man. Keep up the good work
My grandpa died 1 day ago so this guys bounce cheers me up
Can you do highest round with only a specific tower series? like only dart monkeys, etc
I agree that this could be a cool series
yes, i like this ideia
sounds cool
for the thumbnail you couldve made the paragon image smaller and put doomship up top since its a symmetrical sprite, that way you can split the dart and boomer paragon.
I enjoy watching isab cause he knows what a joke is and he’s just good at content when it’s dry
Btd 6 is largely a situational game and I enjoy that a lot for instance what’s meta in the regular game does almost nothing to the bosses and what’s good for boss events kinda sucks in the base game then throw on top of that multiple maps each with their own gimmicks and metas and i honesty think someone could 100% btd 6 without getting bored it would just take time
"Let me sell the VTSG so I can get a Vengeful"
- ISAB 2023
I did this before wizard paragon. It took me forever and will never do it again. It’s satisfying but it took a small piece of my soul.
9:04 200 free dart monkey?
It's the monkey village
i love that BMA beat out almost every degree 100 paragon
Did everyone just forget about Goliath Doomship pops???
hi mr. i suck at battles. i've been watching your videos recenty, very fun to watch keep up it up man
UA-cam video compression hates this man
1:35 Um, ackshually *pushes up glasses* what you meant to say was a portable lake, not a pontoon. You see, portable lakes are able to house monkey buccaneers and other water-based towers and can be placed on land, while pontoons are able to house ground-based towers and can be placed on water. 🤓🤓🤓
If BTD6 follows modern game design paradigms, Wall of Fire spawns far away from any bloons shouldn’t have many calculations compared to “active” projectiles.
I swear This is nile reds btd 6 channel
Being a fan of isab is like being a fan of isab
What if they made the totems more expensive but have them more power? Seems like a good idea to me
I agree. It honestly feels useless buying them by the time you get enough to make a difference.
"Well sell one flavored trades"😂😂
This was a certified in a plane moment
i just started playing bloons again and i found this channel. im happy to see and keep the good work :)
Always look forward to your daily videos
Jokes on you update 38 made regrow farms do nothing! …I mean it doesn’t change anything but still kinda interesting
27 minutes of pure pleasure 🙏🙏🙏🙏
So which 26 seconds did you dislike
@@duplexme7535 Every second of silence
Thank you ISAB for sacrificing all your workers to ultra powerful cartoon monkeys
Just goes to show how busted BMA actually is
more like how busted towers that do a % of damage instead of flat are. It just so happens that BMA deals a flat 100% to anything that isn't a bad
@@aguyontheinternet8436^
Its really not. Anything late game that doesnt deal good bad damage is just support. And BMA isnt even that crazy good support
@@aguyontheinternet8436true, gsabo would have been crazy for this run as well
I can't believe ISAB lied to all us saying he got all the paragons when he was missing the most important one: bunny paragon
27:21 if you wanted to see the true champion on this run you would’ve done a 0-5-0 ninja with a 5-0-0 sub and spammed the ability. You would’ve very quickly out scaled the other paragons. 😂😂
Ninja paragon does the same but it’s permanent😂
@@zhiqiangchen6235 but not at the same %. The 0-5-0 is 50% I believe. If you ran every paragon and had that tower you’d see what I mean.
@@HardxCorpsxKali you clearly have no knowledge of how this game works. The slowdown is 50& but the ability, both activated on the 0-5-0 and the passive on the paragon are -25&.
After we got sub paragon hes never going to get degree 100 on it 😂
Thank you ISAB.for popping inside on the bloons
One of my favorite funny starts in this game is buying monkey-nomics and hooking up a bot to it.
Thank you isab for assimilating the paragons
The timing of the bloonarius theme on 385 is perfect
Amazing, what a clutch at the end
You are the GOAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good thing you got that early game Monkeyopolis value in before the nerf
You should try some challenge like this
MONKEYS
(M)
No Max towers (tier 5)
(O)
Overpriced towers (Impoppable costs)
(N)
Normal Chimps rules (in addition to these)
(K)
Kill Hero (No hero allowed)
(E)
Extra Rounds (Rounds 6-120)
(Y)
Yes, you have to win
(S)
No stalling towers
Anyone else notice one of his friends on the map selection has a round of 3000+?
No unstable concoction? I would of thought that would be a must-have tower for something like this unless I’ve misunderstood how it worked for years.
I once decided to mess around and got degree 30 paragon on buccaneer,ninja and engineer,after I got the rest of paragons on degree one. I also got every powerful tier 5 and got round 265 and stoped from lag
Imagine in BTD6, you and your (friend(s)) try to make Pat Fusty as strong as you guys could. You (or a friend) will have Pat Fusty selected, and have Pat Fusty placed in water (no, there is not a glitch nor a mod where you place Pat Fusty in water, it’s legit). If playing with a friend, have one of you use Admiral Brickell or Geraldo to buff Pat Fusty. If playing with two friends, one you guys will use Pat Fusty, Admiral Brickell, and Geraldo. If it’s done in 4 players, one of you will use a hero that can at least support Pat Fusty.
its crazy how op they made the scaling of rounds after 100
10:52 easter egg
Explain pls
bro forget the strongest paragon
The bunny
The 4xx bomb is gonna be fantastic clean up in next update
my highest round was 309, quite proud since I'm kinda bad at the game
mine is only 300...
for some reason i am hyped for the alchemist paragon after watching this video, it seems like it would be powerfull
Thank you ISAB for paragoning the monkeys
this is really just showing how goated bottom path alchemist is
Fun fact: a monkeyoppelous can be buffed by a monkey city, and it makes it give more money.
They should put an xp requirement for next level on the monkey to show how close to each lvl you are . Like the heros
thank you isab for getting max level paragons
When banana farm paragon gets added the other paragons will literally become the equivalent of costing the same as a dart monkey
dude your game is running so smoothly
How do you see the paragon lev before is shows
Aint no way bro forgot the grand sabatour
i have a fun challenge idea: what's the highest degree paragon you can get WITHOUT farming?
Look what they need to do to mimic fraction of glue rat's power
Love you ISAB
If ninja kiwi keeps adding more paragons, they should change geraldo’s totem capacity from 2 to 3 to make all max possible
Personally i would make the ninja paragon at the end because grand sabo gets pops for blimps entering
No Regrow farmin you say? It's funny that they changed it in this 38.0 update:
"Similar to cash earnings, ‘Regrown’ Bloons will now no longer count towards increasing a tower’s damage stat when they are popped repeatedly."
No need to worry anymore about 2 TC and other challenges but yeah, it'll be harder to farm for Paragons if someone did that using that method.
The boat paragon is actually one of the worse paragons to go for first when it comes to other paragons because it steals pops from other towers.
It's all relative, once you get up to past r200 the pops just come so quickly all towers have enough by r300 but in order to get there the Navarch makes it far easier than the other paragons.
@@fredkelly6953 true but if you want to get all paragons in a reasonable amount of time and not wait 50 hours for a round to end, navarch is gotten last.
often forget how cool the level 100 paragons look, shame you can't get them without geraldo.
co-op exists
Thank you Isab for getting all the paragons
Show us the doomship pop count!
Challenge idea: Only master monkeys. For example crossbow master