I have been watching Blondihacks building a small 0-4-0 switcher/shunter. Seeing the challenges she encountered building her small boiler with few ports and 12 stay rods really gives an apprication for the work involved with this!
Yes, I'm watching her build too. As a beginner I thought it best to have my boiler professionally built. I am currently soldering together my vertical 6" boiler which is a 50 tube cylindrical type made up of simple components - (circles and tubes). This is proving to be quite challenging in itself, so I feel fully justified in having the 9F boiler built professionally! Thanks for your comment.
@@no23mk2 I can understand you having it done by a pro. However seeing the challenges she faced with her "simple" boiler. And seeing the amount of work that went into yours really shows how amazing the guy was that did yours. After seeing Quinn going to all those lengths to make sure she didn't have a leak. Then seeing all those stay bars/rods on yours! Anyway really enjoyed your series so far and can't wait for an update.
An absolute bloody work of art! So much skill involved and so much must be varied temperature silver soldering involved from the hardest temp silver solder to about the lowest I would imagine.
Yes - it is a work of art. Paul did a great job. A lot of skill and experience required for this job. As a novice I wasn't prepared to risk having a go myself.
That is a very interesting video of a nicely built boiler. 2:51 Is there a quick way to explain how such lovely fillets of silver solder were achieved around the stays on the inside?
Hi Andy, I agree. I was looking through my photo files last night when I came across these boiler pics. During the manufacture of the boiler Paul sent me pictures at each stage of the process. I thought they would make a great addition to the slideshows. I rang Paul this afternoon who kindly agreed that I could use his photos.
We have a Black Five tender sat in the sitting room! I am just off to get our boiler to sit on the dining table to be enjoyed... They soon vanish under masses of Black Cladding! David and Lily.
I like your style! What could be better than a loco boiler amongst the condiments. I couldn't get away with it- Although mine did spend a few minutes on the kitchen table when I first brought it home.
I have an Aster Gauge 1 Merchant Navy I built from a kit. It's a FINE model and a FINE locomotive. It can start 19 MK1s (about 38ft of train!) on a 1% grade with reverse curves on my layout. It even has a multiple jet blastpipe and drinks water!
G'day Craig amazing just how much work goes into the boiler, I would only guess how much it cost. Fantastic to show the step by step building photos thanks mate regards John. PS it must weigh a ton?
Hi John, a lot of work, skill, copper and silver solder - not forgetting the gas. Paul did a great job. The finished boiler weighed in at around 26Kg if my memory serves me right.
First let me say, amazing work. You are inspiring!!! With that said, I'm a little confused. The only plans I have found for this model were done by Les Warnett and they were in 5" gauge... Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't your model in 7.25" gauge? If so, what plans are you working from?
Silent movies went out in 1929!!!!! This could have been one of the best UA-cam uploads if you would talk & explain like Tube Cain, Mr Pete 222. Look him up on UA-cam. Then go back & edit your videos.
Sorry John, I only have the pictures from the boiler maker at various stages of the build. You will find plenty on You Tube of the process if you search 'silver soldering boilers' Cheers Craig.
Hello mate. How much would you charge me to make me a boiler that operates? I don’t have the room to run an actual working live steam locomotive so I just want a working boiler that i can fire up and just make steam so I can just have a little steam fun. Thanks and please er me know
Hi Mate. The H10 is a fine loco. It is very encouraging to see a youngster such as yourself interested in engineering. Most kids nowadays are only interested in game simulations and social media etc which is transient and soon forgotten. To build a physical item such as a locomotive is an adventure in learning and the satisfaction felt when you complete a part successfully is second to none. To build a loco takes a lot time and dedication and don't be afraid of making mistakes because - you will make mistakes - this is how we learn. Do you have access to a lathe and mill? This is essential if you're making parts from raw materials and castings. A pre-machined kit will require far less workshop equipment. Remember you are still at school and your studies will take priority soon enough - Oh and then the girls.... I'm 52 and I work on my loco most nights after work and at weekends too. The progress so far has taken nearly four years. I estimate it will take me at least another 5 or 6 years to complete. If I were you I would check to see if you have any model engineering clubs / live steamers clubs nearby. They often have machine tools that members can use. More importantly, they would impart their knowledge and advice freely. Your next few years are going to be busy so pick a project that is manageable - the bigger stuff can be done later! Check this out - it is from your neck of the woods and is very interesting. ua-cam.com/video/p9kKQP-9u7M/v-deo.html I wish you all the best in your endeavours and thanks for your interest. Cheers Craig
Hi Michael, Yes it is possible to build steel boilers but copper seems to be the material of choice in the smaller scales. Here is a link to a Model Engineer discussion on the subject www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=50605 Cheers Craig
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@@no23mk2 for a 9f like yours, how many hours have gone into it? Do you have a rough cost to the whole build? I really want to get into this hobby, I've seen horley sell the plans and most of the components, is that just the beginning?
@@pizzamad3334 I haven't count either the time or the cost. Remember, you don't need to buy everything up front. Just buy bits and pieces as you go. The costs are spread out over many years. The boiler is the most expensive single item but you don't need that until well into the build so there's time to save up. Main thing is to make a start and enjoy it. If you do buy all the castings etc upfront, then ask for some discount. Note also that boilers may well have a long lead time. (Best part of 12 months when I ordered mine in 2015). Hope this helps Cheers Craig
All I will say is a few thousand pounds. It would be unfair of me to say what I paid - as it was three years ago and copper & silver prices vary over time.
I have been watching Blondihacks building a small 0-4-0 switcher/shunter. Seeing the challenges she encountered building her small boiler with few ports and 12 stay rods really gives an apprication for the work involved with this!
Yes, I'm watching her build too. As a beginner I thought it best to have my boiler professionally built. I am currently soldering together my vertical 6" boiler which is a 50 tube cylindrical type made up of simple components - (circles and tubes). This is proving to be quite challenging in itself, so I feel fully justified in having the 9F boiler built professionally! Thanks for your comment.
@@no23mk2 I can understand you having it done by a pro. However seeing the challenges she faced with her "simple" boiler. And seeing the amount of work that went into yours really shows how amazing the guy was that did yours.
After seeing Quinn going to all those lengths to make sure she didn't have a leak. Then seeing all those stay bars/rods on yours!
Anyway really enjoyed your series so far and can't wait for an update.
So much work involved to produce a nice boiler .
Very good 👍
An absolute bloody work of art! So much skill involved and so much must be varied temperature silver soldering involved from the hardest temp silver solder to about the lowest I would imagine.
Yes - it is a work of art. Paul did a great job. A lot of skill and experience required for this job. As a novice I wasn't prepared to risk having a go myself.
@@no23mk2
It's actually more difficult to melt silver solder the second time round.
It looks like he TIG welded the main seam and tack weld the main components together before sliver brazing. Excellent work.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate this man's craftsmanship.
I have a similar one my grandfather built it’s super awsome. This is the closest version I have seen!
Wow you are an impressively good engineer!!!!! Great work
Thank you for sharing this. It now helps me see how I will build my boiler.
You're welcome. Hope your boiler build goes well.
A creation of great beauty , product of a true craftsman. Hope he has an apprentice to continue the tradition
I hope so too!
Absolutely beautiful work!
Yes, Paul did a fine job.
That is a very interesting video of a nicely built boiler.
2:51 Is there a quick way to explain how such lovely fillets of silver solder were achieved around the stays on the inside?
EXCELENTE TRABAJO DE INGENIERIA FERROVIARIA. FELICITACIONES!!
Thank you!
Hi Craig that's one of the best step by step boiler builds I've seen, I do look for the boiler stuff but there don't seem to be much about
Hi Andy, I agree. I was looking through my photo files last night when I came across these boiler pics. During the manufacture of the boiler Paul sent me pictures at each stage of the process. I thought they would make a great addition to the slideshows. I rang Paul this afternoon who kindly agreed that I could use his photos.
do you have a number for Paul looking to have boiler built emailed him ages ago no reply
Hi Jamie, Paul's details from his website ptmachining@yahoo.co.uk or telephone 01276 505211. The e-mail does work I used it yesterday. Cheers Craig.
A beautiful piece of work that.
Gorgeous, and I dread to think of the cost..Graigs been saving all his pocket money for sure!
Yes - Craig did have to save his pennies!
@@no23mk2 can you do some boiler making for my husband's full size 60hp case traction engine
Thats alot of brazing. I would enjoy this project
That boiler is gorgeous!
Wow!
We have a Black Five tender sat in the sitting room!
I am just off to get our boiler to sit on the dining table to be enjoyed...
They soon vanish under masses of Black Cladding!
David and Lily.
I like your style! What could be better than a loco boiler amongst the condiments. I couldn't get away with it- Although mine did spend a few minutes on the kitchen table when I first brought it home.
If I do a live steamer, I’d do a Bulleid Pacific.
Fine Locos.
I have an Aster Gauge 1 Merchant Navy I built from a kit. It's a FINE model and a FINE locomotive. It can start 19 MK1s (about 38ft of train!) on a 1% grade with reverse curves on my layout. It even has a multiple jet blastpipe and drinks water!
Absolutely great job, thou what did you solder the copper with? I feel like tin would melt in the intense heat
G'day Craig amazing just how much work goes into the boiler, I would only guess how much it cost. Fantastic to show the step by step building photos thanks mate regards John. PS it must weigh a ton?
Hi John, a lot of work, skill, copper and silver solder - not forgetting the gas. Paul did a great job. The finished boiler weighed in at around 26Kg if my memory serves me right.
Yes i definitely agree! I think it's worth the effort!
That is a magnificent piece of pure craftsmanship. I'd hate to see the price tag on that.
Yes - Paul did a great job.
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First let me say, amazing work. You are inspiring!!! With that said, I'm a little confused. The only plans I have found for this model were done by Les Warnett and they were in 5" gauge... Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't your model in 7.25" gauge? If so, what plans are you working from?
Thanks again mate. The loco is the 5" Les Warnett design. Drawings are available from Blackgates.
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спасибо!
Silent movies went out in 1929!!!!! This could have been one of the best UA-cam uploads if you would talk & explain like Tube Cain, Mr Pete 222. Look him up on UA-cam. Then go back & edit your videos.
Modern Times (1936), Silent Movie (1976), Steam Locomotive 9F Build Part 18 (2017) Should have done it in black and white!!!!
Wow! But I would like to see some photos of the actual brazing process.
Sorry John, I only have the pictures from the boiler maker at various stages of the build. You will find plenty on You Tube of the process if you search 'silver soldering boilers' Cheers Craig.
Superb i fret at silver soldering a pipe fitting............
where does a person start when learning the fundamental basics of building a boiler? Im trying to construct one for my Allen models mogul.
Try this book - Model Locomotive Boilermaking by Alec F. Farmer
Good God the number of stays in that thing 😂
I wonder if he got any leaks first time?
Ha, I dare not ask!!!
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Hello mate. How much would you charge me to make me a boiler that operates? I don’t have the room to run an actual working live steam locomotive so I just want a working boiler that i can fire up and just make steam so I can just have a little steam fun. Thanks and please er me know
I didn't make the boiler. Contact Paul Tompkins at Southern Boiler Works www.ptmachining.co.uk/
Cheers Craig
Thinking about making an H10 steam locomotive ( any advice ) I don't know if I should make it myself * I'm just 14 * or buy a kit
Hi Mate. The H10 is a fine loco. It is very encouraging to see a youngster such as yourself interested in engineering. Most kids nowadays are only interested in game simulations and social media etc which is transient and soon forgotten. To build a physical item such as a locomotive is an adventure in learning and the satisfaction felt when you complete a part successfully is second to none. To build a loco takes a lot time and dedication and don't be afraid of making mistakes because - you will make mistakes - this is how we learn. Do you have access to a lathe and mill? This is essential if you're making parts from raw materials and castings. A pre-machined kit will require far less workshop equipment. Remember you are still at school and your studies will take priority soon enough - Oh and then the girls.... I'm 52 and I work on my loco most nights after work and at weekends too. The progress so far has taken nearly four years. I estimate it will take me at least another 5 or 6 years to complete. If I were you I would check to see if you have any model engineering clubs / live steamers clubs nearby. They often have machine tools that members can use. More importantly, they would impart their knowledge and advice freely. Your next few years are going to be busy so pick a project that is manageable - the bigger stuff can be done later! Check this out - it is from your neck of the woods and is very interesting. ua-cam.com/video/p9kKQP-9u7M/v-deo.html I wish you all the best in your endeavours and thanks for your interest.
Cheers Craig
Is it possible to build the boilers from Mild Steel instead of copper???
Hi Michael, Yes it is possible to build steel boilers but copper seems to be the material of choice in the smaller scales. Here is a link to a Model Engineer discussion on the subject www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=50605
Cheers Craig
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I’m built a locomotive 🚂 but I need the wheels
What is the approximate weight of the empty boiler?
Hi Ian, approximately 26 Kg.
how much does such a boiler cost to mannufacture?
Dependent on the boiler design - it's a good few thousand £
@@no23mk2 for a 9f like yours, how many hours have gone into it? Do you have a rough cost to the whole build? I really want to get into this hobby, I've seen horley sell the plans and most of the components, is that just the beginning?
@@pizzamad3334 I haven't count either the time or the cost. Remember, you don't need to buy everything up front. Just buy bits and pieces as you go. The costs are spread out over many years. The boiler is the most expensive single item but you don't need that until well into the build so there's time to save up. Main thing is to make a start and enjoy it. If you do buy all the castings etc upfront, then ask for some discount. Note also that boilers may well have a long lead time. (Best part of 12 months when I ordered mine in 2015).
Hope this helps
Cheers Craig
How expensive was this boiler
All I will say is a few thousand pounds. It would be unfair of me to say what I paid - as it was three years ago and copper & silver prices vary over time.
@@no23mk2 is there a chance of building a own boiler and use it
Because of the tests and all
@@mandyfelgner1677 Yes if you have the skills and experience. (which I don't).