Oceangate said they could swap out the insert for specific missions. But they never took the insert out to check the hull, or replace broken sensors. There's some real neglect performed by Oceangate engineers.
Before we crap all over Oceangate’s engineers let’s hold accountable the personality solely responsible for this unnecessary tragedy, the CEO Stockton Rush. Remember anytime someone presented Rush any information that showed flaws in the submersible, Mr. Rush would deep six the information and sack the employee questioning his judgment.
Could be the greatest advertising for Ryno Liner ever. Not that they could use it, but if it didn’t balloon up as first thought, it’s pretty tough. Rush did say it was a thin coat of I remember, don’t recall how many coats.
Thanks for another fantastic and very informative video tbh your channel is the only one I found that breaks this accident down not only in a way my auto mechanic mind understands you get right down too the point with no fluff ❤
I appreciate you brother. You're the real deal. Ive seen those others. For strictly entertainment purposes only and as a man with a touch higher than the average Joe brain cell count i find myself laughing like an episode of larry david doing analysis. I watch every second of yours and I'm sitting here finding myself responding verbally out loud confirming some of your detailed points. Your skill level and fundamental understanding of complex particles ..... second to none. Keep up the videos. The haters ... well you said it best F×ckem.
Very interesting analysis, I think you are right, the debris field has an interesting story to tell. 50 years ago my physics teacher taught us the idea of doing 'order of magnitude' analysis where we would have to estimate parameters for a scenario and then do calculations to get an idea of the order of magnitude of the result (I hope that makes sense!) - with regard to the acrylic viewport I calculated the elastic potential energy stored in it (using Oceangates statement of 0.75" deformation) to be of the order of magnitude of 10,000 Joules, that energy would've been released in milliseconds when the pressure equalised - no wonder they never found it! Looking forward to your next analysis - the answers are there somewhere !
about the debris field, i'm surprised (if i'm understanding you correctly) that you believe the implosion happened several seconds after the vessel began shedding many major parts. personally i think the implosion was more or less immediate, preceded maybe by just a couple seconds' worth of sudden delamination events that compromised the hull without causing structural disintegration of the vessel, and that a combination of implosive and explosive forces occurring a few hundred meters above the seafloor caused a good deal of scattering, while the steady and consistent ocean current known to exist at the wreck site (~2mph west/southwest) would have carried the lighter and less hydrodynamic debris that sank more slowly further away along the debris path as a result.
Thanks for addressing my question. I promise I wasn't saying you were wrong. Nor did I mean Thundercat was right, when I like a person's thinking on a video and want to show support, imma interact. 😊
yea, I brought him up to. he thinks the sub filled wit water. but in my head I invision the sub being crushed by the pressure before it cud fill up wit water.
Who got mad at you swallowing? Lol Some people are silly. Ignore them or they will try to keep finding buttons to press. I did a video on a personal experience with a abusive man I was married to and even that attracted some gross people who were looking for sore buttons to poke. I ignored them and they got bored and it was fine. Don't be mad in the comments about the dumb stuff people make fun of. Also, please don't push the folks away who are here for genuine interaction. I mentioned he who shall not be named, not because I was saying he is smarter but I was trying to get you some non trolling interaction. People appreciate your spreading the knowledge you have and the rest that are just here to get you mad aren't important. Please don't be mad at these suggestions because this isn't my channel but yours and nothing I say matters unless you want it to. 😊
Heh heh. Some thoughts. Lets assume an immediate and entirely symetrical failure of the CF pressure hull. What happens? The two domes move towards each other at speed. As do the fragments of CF. The air contained within the hull is instantly compressed to 3000 psi. All solid matter meets in the middle somewhere. And then? Bounce. The released kinetic energy causes bits to deflect on impact or in some cases even reverse. Impossible to say exactly how. So my point is that even with an entirely "clean" symetrical failure of the hull its impossible to predict what happended after the "crunch". We know that the failure was not symetric though, so I would expect there to be a jumbled mess of broken stuff that may defy explanation 🙂You had to be there 🙂
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First off my compliments on your skills at finding information about all the various incidents that you have commented on - I stand in awe! Second - no where in the discussions or testimony have I heard anyone talk about ocean currents.l There are definite indications in all the vids the scene that the water is moving - observe the organic matter floating around and you get a distinct impression of ocean currents. That said then when the implosion happened the whole submersible. Is fragmented. Heavy stuff - end bells and rings go straight to the bottom - little to no influence from water movement. Lighter stuff - hull and cowling fragments carried by the current to extend the debris field. Not so light components with cross sectional area sort of “fluttering” down l- similar to your example of dropping a quarter into a fishbowl trying to get it to land in a cup. This would include the droppable frame sand cause random scattering. Last really light stuff - the foam used to provide. Flotation would make some items - the tail section with large area and heavy but with almost neutral bouncy float down with the current. Also no mention of anything being found on the surface or being washed up on are beaches - incompressible foam made to lloat so why didn’t it foat to the surface? Again thanks for the very informative content Oz
I recall the search and rescue team understood about water column and currents and this is why they had a larger search area initially... but, once they had equipment on station, they sent that equipment down to the last known location and did a grid search ... So, initially, the Coast Guard search efforts appeared ''stupid''' but they were logical, especially with limited sonar detection had... I understood their method , I think it was sound. As far as subsea currents, sure they exist but not as much as below the surface, as u stated, you could observe the balls of ex-plant lift and it was not on a mission to go anywhere. Further proof of that is, the titanic is not covered in sand and clothing can still be observed on the sea bed... As far as column current goes, and this debris field, the heavier debris would hit the surface first and the lighter debris would be behind / following. I will do a video short on this topic.
…1/4 mile ! They must’ve known they were in trouble. I had a thought to share, I lost that thought. Only the horror remains. They knew, they had to have known. Another 20 min would have been okay with me. Shout out to the kitties. ❤
Has there been a definitive time given from the Coast Guard and / or military about how long after comms were lost until they heard the implosion? That would help illustrate if they were in fact floating around aimlessly in the Titan submersible before it imploded. That makes the most sense based on the debris field. I would really love to see a very detailed survey of the debris field. Especially the end caps and the main debris clump of the fiberglass and end dome. Keep up the great analysis!
I got 1730 +/- between the end cone and the main wreckage. (1600 sqrd) 2,560,000 + (660 sqrd) 435,600 = 2,995,600 (1730 sqrd) So they aren't that far off with their guestimates....
Good point on the debris field. The end caps should be very close to the weight tray, and weights. The tray is far away, and where are those heavy cylinder weights? Should have dropped like a lead weight, just like the domes.
What is your opinion on weight/shape of the debris and current direction on the layout and size of the debris field? Seems like the lighter stuff would settle more slowly and possibly travel further. Appreciate your real-time chain of thought and logic!
If he wanted to cheap out, he would have been better off using high grade Steel or Stainless Steel. It's really the only viable alternative to Titanium for that application.
Tomorrow's video will answer a lot of your questions on the EXISTING FORCE that was ''baked into this design'' and they attempted to stop deflection in the rear frame by adding a ''strong back'' - BUT, that simple created a pry bar action on the top connection. ua-cam.com/video/FOgXAybZc5s/v-deo.html
I started listening to this video on a job site. Cock Nibbler! Even the customer was laughing. Might have to stick to after work! lol I enjoy your take, so you da man in my book!
Did the US Navy ever release the precise time of the underwater explosion? The timing is always vague like "around the time they lost contact". I shudder to think of the 5 flailing in the hull desperate to find a way to surface. Maybe they are suppressing the exact time to spare the families.
@crp... Can you please explain how people like you believe the implosion happened right after last know location and connect the dots with this debris field? Don't leave out a single piece in the survey, I will be waiting with questions, unless you answer them all in your 5 second reply
1:12:00. I'm still not sold on the vehicle having little parts break off as they traveled in an oval path. I believe they dropped the skids at the location shown. The cone was also dropped, but drifted in the current. As they got higher, the delamination occured to failure and the implosion happened above the "general debris field" location. The density of the caps had them resist the current and settled south of the implosion, meanwhile the rest was drifted by a northwest current to their final locations. Going by this theory, if we could find the sinking rate of the materials, we could figure out the depth of the sub when it imploded. That small round debris is an anomally. I would like to know what parts are in that spot.
I didn’t realize they screwed the liner into the interior carbon fiber, I thought they attached it to the ring in some way…who thought that was a good idea? 🤦♂️
Hydraulic hammer litterally destroyed the pressure vessel.I have personally seen what incredible force hydrualic hammer can be.It can literally squash all there air tanks into flat junk scrap in microseconds.
You reminded me of the footage of the Titan coming in , and landing on the LAR, if you watch the legs , there is movement on the legs as it lands . It seems sloppy, or rickedy , perhaps it’s necessary to them being detachable.
NOT TRYING TO QUESTION YOUR ENGINEERING EXPERTICE . JUST A COMMENT FOR WHAT I SAW , A FAILED WELD OR BRACKET WAS NOT HEAVY ENOUGH FOR CONNECTING THE FRAME. I THINK IT WAS ON HIS SHORTCUTS AND THE USE OF CARBON FIBRE . SORRY HIS STOOPIDITY.
51:59 I think the 100m, 200m, etc, are calling referring to the radius even though the show us a full circle. So the 100m radius is actually a 200m diameter. Thats why you see the radius at the Titanic going from -100m to +100m at 52:17. If you wanted to measure relative distances of the debris pieces, the thing to do would be to use a polar coordinate system with the Titan's last known position being R0, θ0°
The pontoons it rode on appesrs to be stackable Fold over to tow with one single trailer therefore cost cutting at the sacrifice of hull integrity being as confidence was so high in the hulls strength by at leadt one guy. Stockton
I’m thinking if the missing side bracket failed before implosion, it would put a lot of pressure on the top rib, and strap they added, could account for the shearing, and twisting evidence on the overall picture.
some was found on the surface, or seen on surface. wat was on bottom must have been attached to something. odd that thy found this if it wasent attached. imposible justanother oddety.
When proper weld isnt possible wouldnt outter skelton then be madated for eatablished design anchor pojnts to be then attached to making the submersible a cell within a cell. One for depth or so thought and outter skeleton for all anchors etc? We do thst with race cars ..
Bruce can't bear to look at thunder foot stupidity. The sharp short bend an paint removed port rail happen by forward dome at apex. Kind like scoop of ice cream.
Do you by any chance know if they have all of the drawings of the Titan. Or perhaps the official CAD files. I'm thinking about modeling one, but I want to to be according to the official specs.
Have you seen any information on the front dome securing bolts? Spec? Torque requirements ? Or even spec for replacing the bolts after so many cycles? In all the footage ive seen they only use a socket wrench and spanner etc
maybe I missed something but does this take into account which way the current is going? one thing that this theory has me thinking about is since they were shedding weight, would they potentially have been rising as the implosion happened? Ive also heard ideas that the implosion caused a twisting motion and that could have thrown debris farther away. But if I remember correctly, there ‘system’ of dropping weights involved tilting slightly so they would slide away. Maybe they are do that sort of motion quicker than normal because of panic and then Boom and debris is flying to different directions.
With aircraft, a fairing simply streamlines odd miscellaneous bits while a cowling is designed to streamline airflow and aids in directing flow over and around the power plant.
I havent got to the 20min point but what about the foam blocks used in the tail. Wouldnt it naturally want to float to the surface. If the weights were relased could that suddenly put too much pressure on the aft, ripping it off
the last known position did they not give the depth with this position. the debri field would be smaler or bigger depending on the depth. having watched the mini carbon fibre implosion not to much is ejected small light peices seem to be ejected. the speed of the implosion is not seeable even when u rewind ittoo fast to see. and the peices are so simular to what thy recoverd of the titan. a great vid to watch for everyone
@@machoman5356 the acrylic could have shaterd when it was ejected. thy found no peices in the reckage so asumed it was ejected outwards, posibly in peices.
Don't bother about Thunderfoot or Scott Manley, they both were here on youtube for a really long time (17 years for Thunderfoot) and know how to sell their stuff. I like them, but they cannot do what you are doing, really getting into the rabbit hole that is the Analysis of this accident. I've got a question about the the endcaps of the titan sub, you've said that the outer titanium flange of the endcap had a brittle fracture, why is that? I understand why the inside ring was cut off, but the outside was just glued to the carbon hull, did the glue took the titanium ring with ist, or was it the water rushing in?
Given that a substantial percentage of what was contained in that submersible was biological material there being absolutely no reference to anything related to the passengers provides a very incomplete picture. I fully understand the need to protect the families but I'm sure they could have included some information without referencing individuals or the precise nature of the debris. A simple alphanumeric index "H1 .... H(N)" would suffice.
Pezios have to have direct contact. Even a piece of tape nimbs reponse from a pezio. I saw they used stretch membrane sensors. Just higher thsn my pay grade brother.
1:05:00. I am having trouble getting past the tail syntactic foam 1 and 2. We saw the tail was in one piece. Why are there two pieces 50 meters away from eachother? Can anyone help me with this?
After it first happened, you said that the rhino liner acted to hold the vessel down... no matter how much weight they dropped.....this made a lot of sense to me....do you still think so? We've had so much new info...is this still a possibility?
I gave that some thought and it appears the Rhino liner was amazing but I can't rule that out as failing but I know observe , it rips and appears notto balloon! So, I really doubt it took on any significant weight, although one sample appears to be saturated ( one of the ntsb images, he falls it a dark appearance)... In conclusion, I need more data.
Ps Thank you for recalling this possibility... that means you are paying attention and when I refine this in the conclusion video, you be able to understand it more so
Is that v buldge possibly a profile of expansjon of a fastener of sorts.? Likely a dumb question. I guess rhetorical more than anything. Just really got my brain firing off.
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Thx for the steady flow of new videos!
Glad you like them!
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I love that you're modeling how to think for people... And the cats are a nice bonus!
Thank you! 😊
I think this is your best analysis EVER‼️
Oceangate said they could swap out the insert for specific missions. But they never took the insert out to check the hull, or replace broken sensors. There's some real neglect performed by Oceangate engineers.
Mission == someone else pays 😂
Before we crap all over Oceangate’s engineers let’s hold accountable the personality solely responsible for this unnecessary tragedy, the CEO Stockton Rush. Remember anytime someone presented Rush any information that showed flaws in the submersible, Mr. Rush would deep six the information and sack the employee questioning his judgment.
Joe Pesci explaining Titan Submersibles....
Glad you have a sense of humor bud!
Smart guy. Deserving of worship.
Even Carlin would have agreed 👍.
Could be the greatest advertising for Ryno Liner ever.
Not that they could use it, but if it didn’t balloon up as first thought, it’s pretty tough. Rush did say it was a thin coat of I remember, don’t recall how many coats.
I love your love for your cats. It’s a beautiful thing.
Thanks for another fantastic and very informative video tbh your channel is the only one I found that breaks this accident down not only in a way my auto mechanic mind understands you get right down too the point with no fluff ❤
Thank you and mechanics are pretty logical people...
Don’t worry about anyone’s BS man, your content is smart as hell. I love your format and think everything is great in your videos. F ‘em
Thank you for that feedback... f'em if they can't take a joke
I came here for the cats...
and for science ofc :9
Once again. Amazing observational skills and discernment/ reasoning. Great video!
Thank you kindly!
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You made the dots connect.
Outstanding job. Genius level work brother
I appreciate your feedback, thank you for kind words.
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I appreciate you brother. You're the real deal.
Ive seen those others. For strictly entertainment purposes only and as a man with a touch higher than the average Joe brain cell count i find myself laughing like an episode of larry david doing analysis.
I watch every second of yours and I'm sitting here finding myself responding verbally out loud confirming some of your detailed points. Your skill level and fundamental understanding of complex particles ..... second to none.
Keep up the videos. The haters ... well you said it best
F×ckem.
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Very interesting analysis, I think you are right, the debris field has an interesting story to tell. 50 years ago my physics teacher taught us the idea of doing 'order of magnitude' analysis where we would have to estimate parameters for a scenario and then do calculations to get an idea of the order of magnitude of the result (I hope that makes sense!) - with regard to the acrylic viewport I calculated the elastic potential energy stored in it (using Oceangates statement of 0.75" deformation) to be of the order of magnitude of 10,000 Joules, that energy would've been released in milliseconds when the pressure equalised - no wonder they never found it! Looking forward to your next analysis - the answers are there somewhere !
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Interesting read, thank you Martin - also for being a channel member and that supports the strays
Thank you for the analysis. I appreciate the information and the education.
“The fit and finish quality” ! You said it. As a former aircraft master crew chief in the Army, Rush’s idea of ‘fit and finish’ -very sloppy
Thank you for understanding fit and finish...how small details matter
about the debris field, i'm surprised (if i'm understanding you correctly) that you believe the implosion happened several seconds after the vessel began shedding many major parts. personally i think the implosion was more or less immediate, preceded maybe by just a couple seconds' worth of sudden delamination events that compromised the hull without causing structural disintegration of the vessel, and that a combination of implosive and explosive forces occurring a few hundred meters above the seafloor caused a good deal of scattering, while the steady and consistent ocean current known to exist at the wreck site (~2mph west/southwest) would have carried the lighter and less hydrodynamic debris that sank more slowly further away along the debris path as a result.
Your theory is not logical based on the debris field
Thanks for addressing my question. I promise I wasn't saying you were wrong. Nor did I mean Thundercat was right, when I like a person's thinking on a video and want to show support, imma interact. 😊
yea, I brought him up to. he thinks the sub filled wit water. but in my head I invision the sub being crushed by the pressure before it cud fill up wit water.
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I appreciate that and I can tell you are fine judge of character 😊 ha
Who got mad at you swallowing? Lol
Some people are silly. Ignore them or they will try to keep finding buttons to press. I did a video on a personal experience with a abusive man I was married to and even that attracted some gross people who were looking for sore buttons to poke. I ignored them and they got bored and it was fine. Don't be mad in the comments about the dumb stuff people make fun of. Also, please don't push the folks away who are here for genuine interaction. I mentioned he who shall not be named, not because I was saying he is smarter but I was trying to get you some non trolling interaction. People appreciate your spreading the knowledge you have and the rest that are just here to get you mad aren't important. Please don't be mad at these suggestions because this isn't my channel but yours and nothing I say matters unless you want it to. 😊
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That was the most interesting hour and a half I've watched for a long time. Subscribed 👍
Awesome, thank you!
Heh heh. Some thoughts. Lets assume an immediate and entirely symetrical failure of the CF pressure hull. What happens? The two domes move towards each other at speed. As do the fragments of CF. The air contained within the hull is instantly compressed to 3000 psi. All solid matter meets in the middle somewhere. And then? Bounce. The released kinetic energy causes bits to deflect on impact or in some cases even reverse. Impossible to say exactly how. So my point is that even with an entirely "clean" symetrical failure of the hull its impossible to predict what happended after the "crunch". We know that the failure was not symetric though, so I would expect there to be a jumbled mess of broken stuff that may defy explanation 🙂You had to be there 🙂
Aww George is smart! What a cool cat. ❤
Thank you about George
I like what Karl Stanley said to Rush, that you don’t have a marketable product. All the loud gunshot sounds….someone is going to want to resurface.
@marshallman7550 he was wrong talk about brain wash I sure not want that,,hay no county music aboard makes seince.
Thank you for another deep deep dive (I'll own the pun.) I love that you have a Cat Alarm.
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Your analysis is always the best!!
Thank you Tears, I will link, the next video before it goes public ...
How to see u in tonight's chat, if u r available
Is George your cat? I love that you end the video because George is hungry!!!
George , is one of the street cats that became my boys and girls here
@@ForensicCats you’re kind, it takes a lot to care for strays, a lot of money and heartache when something goes wrong and when you just can’t help anymore because it’s just too much…
Your soul is kind and you are so good too at your engineering job, I love your analysis and videos and the no bs attitude. I just had to reach out and tell you. Have a lovely day wherever you are. I’m in the uk and I’m watching your videos at 3/4 am! 🐈⬛💜
Good morning to you and hello there in the UK... thanks for commenting/ sharing
Great Titan content.
Absolutely not one substantial gusset on any right angle . Fabrication day one. Gussets saves your ass
First off my compliments on your skills at finding information about all the various incidents that you have commented on - I stand in awe!
Second - no where in the discussions or testimony have I heard anyone talk about ocean currents.l There are definite indications in all the vids the scene that the water is moving - observe the organic matter floating around and you get a distinct impression of ocean currents. That said then when the implosion happened the whole submersible. Is fragmented.
Heavy stuff - end bells and rings go straight to the bottom - little to no influence from water movement. Lighter stuff - hull and cowling fragments carried by the current to extend the debris field. Not so light components with cross sectional area sort of “fluttering” down l- similar to your example of dropping a quarter into a fishbowl trying to get it to land in a cup. This would include the droppable frame sand cause random scattering.
Last really light stuff - the foam used to provide. Flotation would make some items - the tail section with large area and heavy but with almost neutral bouncy float down with the current. Also no mention of anything being found on the surface or being washed up on are beaches - incompressible foam made to lloat so why didn’t it foat to the surface?
Again thanks for the very informative content
Oz
I recall the search and rescue team understood about water column and currents and this is why they had a larger search area initially... but, once they had equipment on station, they sent that equipment down to the last known location and did a grid search ... So, initially, the Coast Guard search efforts appeared ''stupid''' but they were logical, especially with limited sonar detection had... I understood their method , I think it was sound.
As far as subsea currents, sure they exist but not as much as below the surface, as u stated, you could observe the balls of ex-plant lift and it was not on a mission to go anywhere. Further proof of that is, the titanic is not covered in sand and clothing can still be observed on the sea bed...
As far as column current goes, and this debris field, the heavier debris would hit the surface first and the lighter debris would be behind / following. I will do a video short on this topic.
…1/4 mile ! They must’ve known they were in trouble. I had a thought to share, I lost that thought. Only the horror remains. They knew, they had to have known.
Another 20 min would have been okay with me.
Shout out to the kitties. ❤
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Hi sweet kitty. My kitties here say hello. 😊
thank you and hello
10:57 is what made me love this channel 😂😂 Shit was hilarious.
“Well f*** you” hahaha.
Good morning, it's 5:54a.m. here, on a Saturday... Hope all is well with you... Thanks for enjoying my humor.
Has there been a definitive time given from the Coast Guard and / or military about how long after comms were lost until they heard the implosion? That would help illustrate if they were in fact floating around aimlessly in the Titan submersible before it imploded. That makes the most sense based on the debris field. I would really love to see a very detailed survey of the debris field. Especially the end caps and the main debris clump of the fiberglass and end dome. Keep up the great analysis!
I got 1730 +/- between the end cone and the main wreckage. (1600 sqrd) 2,560,000 + (660 sqrd) 435,600 = 2,995,600 (1730 sqrd) So they aren't that far off with their guestimates....
11:09 About spit out my coffee! lmao
So great, I'm drinking coffee right now, and I think a little is in my nose. Good stuff.
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I'm sorry... Hope u watch tonight's viseo
I'm sorry to you also... Oops
Good point on the debris field. The end caps should be very close to the weight tray, and weights. The tray is far away, and where are those heavy cylinder weights? Should have dropped like a lead weight, just like the domes.
in OBS, the Mic/AUX menu has a "noise gate" filter which removes spurious swallowing sounds below a certain amplitude. :-)
Yet again, shall be waiting
This is painful to watch
Then don't watch it 😭
What is your opinion on weight/shape of the debris and current direction on the layout and size of the debris field? Seems like the lighter stuff would settle more slowly and possibly travel further. Appreciate your real-time chain of thought and logic!
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Another comment for the Cool Cats! I wish I could do more!
Thank you
Something almost unmentioned is the fact that classing specs for the Titanium specify grade 5 when Titan's was grade 3...a lower spec.
If he wanted to cheap out, he would have been better off using high grade Steel or Stainless Steel. It's really the only viable alternative to Titanium for that application.
Never heard they inflated any bag? What bag...never heard of any bag..
I'm with you he showed it draped half way over Titan during last part of construction. Edit was a safty device for emergency.
I believe that holding either shift or control while dragging one node of the line will let you retain line length
Same will probably work for drawing circles, as opposed to ellipses.
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Yo,
Very well done.
Thank you.
(Made me swallow, too. Lol.).
I am sure there is real serious information in here, but the presentation is all over the place and difficult to follow.
Awesome, thank you
I started listening to this video on a job site. Cock Nibbler! Even the customer was laughing. Might have to stick to after work! lol I enjoy your take, so you da man in my book!
I apologize...
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Did the US Navy ever release the precise time of the underwater explosion? The timing is always vague like "around the time they lost contact". I shudder to think of the 5 flailing in the hull desperate to find a way to surface. Maybe they are suppressing the exact time to spare the families.
I've been wondering the same thing...when exactly was the implosion per the US Navy??
@crp... Can you please explain how people like you believe the implosion happened right after last know location and connect the dots with this debris field?
Don't leave out a single piece in the survey, I will be waiting with questions, unless you answer them all in your 5 second reply
Problem is that a precise time could give information regarding details of the sonar systems that the USN wants to keep confidential.
Probably the timing would give away the capabilities and location of the US navys listening system.
Can you please post the document links in the video description-it’s neat to be able to review them later on. Thank you 🙏🏽
1:12:00. I'm still not sold on the vehicle having little parts break off as they traveled in an oval path. I believe they dropped the skids at the location shown. The cone was also dropped, but drifted in the current. As they got higher, the delamination occured to failure and the implosion happened above the "general debris field" location. The density of the caps had them resist the current and settled south of the implosion, meanwhile the rest was drifted by a northwest current to their final locations. Going by this theory, if we could find the sinking rate of the materials, we could figure out the depth of the sub when it imploded. That small round debris is an anomally. I would like to know what parts are in that spot.
I didn’t realize they screwed the liner into the interior carbon fiber, I thought they attached it to the ring in some way…who thought that was a good idea? 🤦♂️
they had struts glued lenth ways on the carbon inner to screw the inner too. hope thy did not go through in to the carbon fibre
@@theweasel-uf7dn ok, that makes more sense
Hydraulic hammer litterally destroyed the pressure vessel.I have personally seen what incredible force hydrualic hammer can be.It can literally squash all there air tanks into flat junk scrap in microseconds.
You reminded me of the footage of the Titan coming in , and landing on the LAR, if you watch the legs , there is movement on the legs as it lands . It seems sloppy, or rickedy , perhaps it’s necessary to them being detachable.
NOT TRYING TO QUESTION YOUR ENGINEERING EXPERTICE . JUST A COMMENT FOR WHAT I SAW , A FAILED WELD OR BRACKET WAS NOT HEAVY ENOUGH FOR CONNECTING THE FRAME. I THINK IT WAS ON HIS SHORTCUTS AND THE USE OF CARBON FIBRE . SORRY HIS STOOPIDITY.
51:59 I think the 100m, 200m, etc, are calling referring to the radius even though the show us a full circle. So the 100m radius is actually a 200m diameter. Thats why you see the radius at the Titanic going from -100m to +100m at 52:17. If you wanted to measure relative distances of the debris pieces, the thing to do would be to use a polar coordinate system with the Titan's last known position being R0, θ0°
Yes, I address this and also prove their scale is a pos
Wait, I address this in tomorrow's video, processing in u-urine now oops, u t u b
ua-cam.com/video/FOgXAybZc5s/v-deo.html tomorrow
The pontoons it rode on appesrs to be stackable
Fold over to tow with one single trailer therefore cost cutting at the sacrifice of hull integrity being as confidence was so high in the hulls strength by at leadt one guy. Stockton
There you go swallowing and breathing again.
And I think I heard your heart beating.
Stop that, it's annoying. 🤣👍
OH, I am still smiling as I write your reply, this is fuk ing funny! lmao
I’m thinking if the missing side bracket failed before implosion, it would put a lot of pressure on the top rib, and strap they added, could account for the shearing, and twisting evidence on the overall picture.
With confirmation 👍 where Bruce
I will get him in another video
Amazing they would screw, and anchor that inner sleeve into the hull.
Map is in UTM coordinates (Eastings, Northings). Ah, it's visible in the legend.
I saw that but it's not in the legend tgt, I am only guessing, they are the steel pipes.
I dive into this more in tomorrow's video at 1 or 2 ,a.m.
sequential disintegration
The syntactic foam is meant to float isn't it. They found it on the ocean floor. How could it sink?
It helps maintain bounancy but not enough to float the batteries, etc
some was found on the surface, or seen on surface. wat was on bottom must have been attached to something. odd that thy found this if it wasent attached. imposible justanother oddety.
When proper weld isnt possible wouldnt outter skelton then be madated for eatablished design anchor pojnts to be then attached to making the submersible a cell within a cell. One for depth or so thought and outter skeleton for all anchors etc?
We do thst with race cars ..
I'm human being I'm gunna swallow 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bruce can't bear to look at thunder foot stupidity. The sharp short bend an paint removed port rail happen by forward dome at apex. Kind like scoop of ice cream.
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Looking forward to seeing you, thanks for your channel support via membership and commenting
Do you by any chance know if they have all of the drawings of the Titan. Or perhaps the official CAD files. I'm thinking about modeling one, but I want to to be according to the official specs.
They sell a cad drawing online and u can even 4d print it
Have you seen any information on the front dome securing bolts? Spec? Torque requirements ? Or even spec for replacing the bolts after so many cycles? In all the footage ive seen they only use a socket wrench and spanner etc
maybe I missed something but does this take into account which way the current is going?
one thing that this theory has me thinking about is since they were shedding weight, would they potentially have been rising as the implosion happened?
Ive also heard ideas that the implosion caused a twisting motion and that could have thrown debris farther away.
But if I remember correctly, there ‘system’ of dropping weights involved tilting slightly so they would slide away. Maybe they are do that sort of motion quicker than normal because of panic and then Boom and debris is flying to different directions.
Long foot?? Isn't he the one who said the oxygen bottle was a blanket?
That was Jeff ostroff
With aircraft, a fairing simply streamlines odd miscellaneous bits while a cowling is designed to streamline airflow and aids in directing flow over and around the power plant.
I havent got to the 20min point but what about the foam blocks used in the tail. Wouldnt it naturally want to float to the surface. If the weights were relased could that suddenly put too much pressure on the aft, ripping it off
tomorrow's video might help u ua-cam.com/video/FOgXAybZc5s/v-deo.html
the last known position did they not give the depth with this position. the debri field would be smaler or bigger depending on the depth. having watched the mini carbon fibre implosion not to much is ejected small light peices seem to be ejected. the speed of the implosion is not seeable even when u rewind ittoo fast to see. and the peices are so simular to what thy recoverd of the titan. a great vid to watch for everyone
Watch tonight's video and learn ty
Did they find the 2 drop weights? That would better pinpoint location
Sensor data before collapse could explain alot, but finding remains of SSD in all that mess....
You can tell where the front and back of the interface rings are by looking where the bolt holes are for the domes
Thru hole 6-7 appears to have a small crack at the 11 o'clock position near the buckle. Gets a little blurry when zooming in.
Also, I’m looking for the rest of the oxygen bottles.
the 200 metre circle is from the last knowen position of sub, the black dot.
Was all very close together, the acrylic must sliped under the silt.
It's 400 meters diameter and 200 meter radius
@@machoman5356 the acrylic could have shaterd when it was ejected. thy found no peices in the reckage so asumed it was ejected outwards, posibly in peices.
Don't bother about Thunderfoot or Scott Manley, they both were here on youtube for a really long time (17 years for Thunderfoot) and know how to sell their stuff. I like them, but they cannot do what you are doing, really getting into the rabbit hole that is the Analysis of this accident.
I've got a question about the the endcaps of the titan sub, you've said that the outer titanium flange of the endcap had a brittle fracture, why is that?
I understand why the inside ring was cut off, but the outside was just glued to the carbon hull, did the glue took the titanium ring with ist, or was it the water rushing in?
I'll get to that in a future video but ur short answer, I need to see the entire ring at magnified levels...
@@ForensicCats Sure, I'm looking forward to seeing this mystery solved! Oh and thanks for saving all those cats, I have two rescued cats myself
I wish you wouldn’t waste your time addressing the trolls
Wouldn't you also have shock loading in multiple axes as micro failures occur at these stresses? Bet they figured on uniform stresses.
What i thought.
14:55 are those numbers in millimeters? M6 (or 1/4 x 20) is a really small bolt diameter for what it was being used for.
where can i get that document you have have there?
47:01 dont swallow 😆😆😆
Given that a substantial percentage of what was contained in that submersible was biological material there being absolutely no reference to anything related to the passengers provides a very incomplete picture. I fully understand the need to protect the families but I'm sure they could have included some information without referencing individuals or the precise nature of the debris. A simple alphanumeric index "H1 .... H(N)" would suffice.
As I understand it they were fused together into a mush containing the combined DNA and organic substances from five people.
@@KirkLand-w4l that is the peice off mush they found
Pezios have to have direct contact. Even a piece of tape nimbs reponse from a pezio.
I saw they used stretch membrane sensors. Just higher thsn my pay grade brother.
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1:05:00. I am having trouble getting past the tail syntactic foam 1 and 2. We saw the tail was in one piece. Why are there two pieces 50 meters away from eachother? Can anyone help me with this?
See u tonight ua-cam.com/video/_hAiVMgs6uo/v-deo.html coming up tonight, hope to see u there
What company did the welding? I did better as a teen at welding school.
This entire project is a sad failure of human common sense and engineering. So many opportunities to avoid disaster.
After it first happened, you said that the rhino liner acted to hold the vessel down... no matter how much weight they dropped.....this made a lot of sense to me....do you still think so? We've had so much new info...is this still a possibility?
I gave that some thought and it appears the Rhino liner was amazing but I can't rule that out as failing but I know observe , it rips and appears notto balloon!
So, I really doubt it took on any significant weight, although one sample appears to be saturated ( one of the ntsb images, he falls it a dark appearance)...
In conclusion, I need more data.
Ps Thank you for recalling this possibility... that means you are paying attention and when I refine this in the conclusion video, you be able to understand it more so
Hi!
What happened to the port window.
Vaporized.
Just a guess but the t numbers on the debris maps show (t)rack taken by the ROV on its missions.
They are intersections based on a gps type system.
Are all these photos a file that you have created for yourself? or is there a link to this file?
You need to watch the video again
@@ForensicCats j'aurais préféré une réponse, la traduction c'est pas fou fou....
Is that v buldge possibly a profile of expansjon of a fastener of sorts.? Likely a dumb question. I guess rhetorical more than anything. Just really got my brain firing off.
The fasteners come later and screw plug is all i read in a report that someone sent me