The Downside Of Cinema Cameras (THINK TWICE BEFORE BUYING...)
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Hybrid or cinema?
Hybrid for the win for me. I've been using the Panasonic s5 since it came out and the update really turned it into such a beast of a hybrid. Cameras getting updates may be an even bigger thing to think about. Love the vid
Cinema the look just gives you that Theatre look but now a day it doesn’t matter unless you wanna reach big distributions like Netflix
Hybrid ❤
I love my hybrid camera. You need to try the S5IIx I think you would love it. I love my S5II so versatile and lightweight..and the price is amazing..
Cinema
It's the FX3 for me 🔥handles everything I throw at it while being small & light.
I got the lil brother 💯
@@paperstacksfilms I'm most likely getting that soon as a c-cam! Can't beat the value.
Same here, it is professionally enough that it literally landed a gig when I was mess around with.
Can't wait to get mine. Is it worth to get a Sony Lens for Focus Breathing?????
@jameswhitaker4357 Depends on which one, some of the Sony prime lenses don't have good focus breathing; but at least they'd be compatible to use with the focus breathing compensation setting.
But if it's a zoom lens I wouldn't worry. My Sigma 24-70 f2.8 has way better focus breathing than my Sony 85mm f1.8
I’m about to buy a bmpcc 6k pro and I’m still gonna use my eos r and that’s good enough for me
Pocket 6K (the OG) for me. Rigged up, stripped down; it's a beast all day any day for me. The quality of the image and how it just works with you beats IS, AF and all that for me. It's just pure magic in a box.
preach!!!!
I love my 6k LOL
But I threw a hybrid on for a sports shoot. I’m torn at the convenience!
@@JCurtisMedia nice. Oh for sure, hybrids have a well deserved and earned space. but that p6K image though... lol!
@@Aaron_Smith_OM 🤣😅😂 No Lies told bro! That P6K image is so fire it’s unreal. Especially in comparison to my Canon 90D 8bit neutral color profile image. I’m make it do what it do but I’m definitely looking to upgrade to a 10bit 4k 60fps Canon that can do raw or log. And being able to grab professional photos off the rip of the button would s clutch. But it ll still keep my 6k at all costs 🤣
Great content! I use a C200. Love the internal NDs and audio options.
Been shooting sports and was using the BMPCC6k. I threw up he canon 90D on a glidecam just to try it out. No rigging no vBlock batteries and could move easily and freely. Definitely agree with this added value video! And was even able to grab some photos quickly for some extra value.
Just need to upgrade to a better hybrid and I think I’m good 💪🏿
c70 user. I prefer Cinema Cameras bc of the plethora of customizable buttons, built in NDs and 4 tracks of audio (game changer 😭). I mostly shoot doc style work. My next camera will probably be a r5C since i still get photography inquires. the focus peaking is beautiful on it. images are great as well. i shot on an a7sii for years. i dont see myself going back to hybrid as my A Cam.
I agree 100 percent and these are the exact reasons why I even own a C70. I have never been a fan of Sony. The menus are to confusing for me and canon has the best glass.
What lenses do you like on your c70s
I'm still using a modest pair of Fujis for some of these reasons. In particular, the X-T4 is pretty good for switching fast between filming and stills, which I have to do often. I have these also because I do two-camera setups and getting two Fuji cameras was, financially, a manageable path. Someday I'll graduate to a cinema camera, but I will keep these as still cameras.
I’d love a breakdown of your A roll lighting, it looks fantastic, and it’s very complex to light for darker skin tones, awesome video 👏🏻
I purchased a C500 Mk II but I find myself using the R5C way more. It really does come down to good glass and good lighting at the end of the day
Yep that's it as far as image quality goes. The size only matters based on the type of work you do.
Hybrid all day, mirrorless. R7 with the sigma 18-35 is still my content creation machine, just ordered the R8 with the sigma 50 f1,4 as B-cam and more foto related camera. But that’s what works for me, and I just do UA-cam stuff. Would love to see your take on the Panasonic GH9 mark ii. M4/3 but depending on which lens you use really interesting. But for the stuff you shoot the FX3 and the A7II could be a perfect combo. Have a great start into the new week 😊🙏🏻
What you think about the r6 mark 2
@@Mgpostanything it is a great camera and I was tempted going for it instead of the R8. But it’s nearly 1K more expensive here in Germany and I wanted the R8 as a B-Cam for video and A-Cam for foto. Plus for exhibitions it’s easier to carry around than the R6 mii. I think with the r7 and r8 I have all my needs covered.
I have the same cameras you have - C70 and the R6. I used them both together and the end results are great. I think what you missed in this video is Budget. If the client has the budget, then the client wants that big camera look. Clients don’t know about cameras or gear, they just want big and quality. These cameras to me are situational, and these two are a great combination to work with. This video does cover a lot and you always come correct w information and great experience. It’s a tough topic because people are so opinionated. I always look forward to what you have to say and your content always keeps me inspired. Thanks.
Great video! i have the a7c mark l and also just got my hands on the bmpcc 4k and i agree with pretty much all of these points! my hybrid comes with me daily - too afraid to take this cinema out of the house 😅
Thanks for this honest critique.
Lumix S5 ii is the perfect blend between a cinema camera and a hybrid camera for me.
I still haven’t been brave enough to make the Sony switch, still rockn the R8 Canon super small light weight, handles well with many different scenarios, not always my favorite for low light but I have seen Sony and am not a fan of the color space, just my opinion. Would love to get my hands on that R5C....Still would like to compare the weight and work flow of something lightweight to something more cinematic, but all in time :)
i think it depends on what your normal set looks like.. if you dont typically have an ac to pull focus, or if you dont need multiple monitors set up for a video village type scenario, or if you dont need to sync timecode on multiple cams, then a cinema camera isnt adding many benefits over mirrorless/dslr
I have the BMPCC 6k Pro for music videos. It’s perfect. But now that I’m filming my daughter playing 🏀 that rolling shutter is killing me.
Been looking at the R5C lately. Have everything to rig it up already.
I really need to know how you grade that midium shot where you talk and what export settigns you use to upload on youtube haha, looks amazing
At the end of the day, it's about what you shoot, the environment you shoot in e.g. team, and what you like. I love my C70 and I am not a fan of gimbal.
I like both for different reasons. Especially for the type of stuff im doing at the moment.
Thanks for the content. Is there any reasons you don't use camrecorders? Or you just prefer cameras?
You need to do a video about Exposing with the R5/6 without an external monitor!
insightful info!🤓
dope video, I have never looked into cinema cameras before this was really interesting to watch. And mostly my little cam seems lightweight now lmao love that idea
I've been shooting with my BMCC6K Pro for two years now and have learned that its overkill for some shoots. Like you said, sometimes you just want to pick up and go. Just picked up a Sony FX30 for that very reason. Can shoot raw externally if need be, and shoots 10 bit 4:2:2. Thats more than enough to handle jobs without the hassle of dealing with the 6K.
A camera is just a box that helps you achieve your dreams. Just about any $2000-$10,000 camera can help you do this if you put in the time and effort. You can go poor looking for the perfect camera or you can take what you have, get the work done and get paid.
When it comes to log footage, would you say it’s easy to just eyeball it or best to use zebra patterns? I want to start using log footage with my films. Specifically my Wedding films. I make horror movies and do commercial work but for my Wedding films I just feel like the day is so hectic I won’t have time to dial in the exposure Using zebras with log footage because of how quickly everything can change throughout the day. Ive just heard that you may look at it and think it’s exposed properly until you through a rec 709 lut on it and it is actually overexposed
What I wanna get in to is that MAC and how good is it for editing because I keep editing on my PC and I am about to jump ship man!
which camera would u suggest for 1-2k i cannt decide :(
i have in mind
-Sony a7 3
-blackmagic design pocket cinema 4k
-sony alpha 6700
maily for music videos
I'm in the process of switching over from the black magic 6k. Mainly because the auto focus and light weight set up.
I personally use a Sony A7Sii and I think it’s such a practical camera. I do want to invest in a cinema camera one day but I do love my A7S. Also what is CF Express, this is new to me
Is it possible to download the "I liked the transitions at 10:57 min" plugin for Final Cut Pro?
Blackmagic only offers push or one-touch autofocus. You get focus before you shoot and then if focus changes you need to manually pull focus. It’s great for interviews, but if you are shooting something fast moving like sports it won’t keep focus. I am not sure about the type of autofocus Red uses.
GH5 but I am actually using it for making movies. Dudes spending all that money on cinema cameras with stills lenses to post on UA-cam is asinine. Cinema cameras are meant for systems of people. The specs aren’t different or much better than a hybrid. Image quality isn’t that much different unless you’re a snob. The average viewer can’t tell you the difference.
Love my R5C
Did you try the fx30 yet?? Trying hear ya thoughts on it
i loove my C300 but If they made R5C with a good battery and same DR as in the cinema line, I would probably use hybrid much more.
Is the black magic pocket 6k worth investing?
I wish they’d make a mirrorless camera with built in internal ND filters. If they did that, and maybe offer mini xlr audio ports and a dedicated time code port on it. I wouldn’t need a cinema camera.
Facts bro, Hybrid is the way to go, unless you have the clients or projects that require a cinema camera. Most of us are running and gunning.
I do weddings and events, photo and video. I have two A7iv's, and one ZV-E1. It gets the job done and to be honest, I don't pull enough money to get a dedicated cinema camera.
Tiny Hybrid m4/3 with a box type studio lens 😅
1st of all, I need that Mac Studio 😅🔥🔥🔥
What y’all think about the r6 mark 2
You mention cinema lenses? There is a saying, "Date the camera and marry the len." Exact same image? Nahhh Good images? Yes. Exact same? nope.
red dsmc2 all the way ! just workout more your arms , ronin mx with red dragon was heavy , but just workout , then was light , and i can fit all my setups on backpacks , lenses , camera body , screen , and 6 redvolt XL battery in one small ifootage backpack ( the backpack for the ifootage shark slider mini ) ,and one sony a7r2 with a 40mm lens , everything inside that backpack , no need to use pelicase no nothing , and please dont call sony fx3 a cinema camera bacause is not ..
the ronin mx dont fit inside that backpack , but thats not a big problem , i just strap it outside and its fine
Bro I love yo content, I getting into filming because my son does music. Hopefully things gos well when we starting shooting his music video’s
The playfield it is level now. Sony and Canon have entry-level cameras that can shoot 10-bit like the a6700 and r7.
There is no excuse why you can’t get a good image.
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peace and blessing
It's quite amusing that he's discussing the Sony A7Cii while the b-roll footage features Canon cameras.
I have hybrid camera Canon R5c and loving it. I also have the Canon C200 cinema camera. But because I shot 50/50 photo & video I uses the R5c mostly. Beside it compact and solve all my issues. Now I been using my C200 for over three years and have paid for itself the first year. I still have some life in the C200 so won't be getting rid of it any time soon
the new Sony Bruneo has ibis in a cinema body
I'm getting a cinema set up but because that's what I need. It'll be small and light weight as well. I can see it being my A cam 90% of the time.
How you doing my bro, where are you from?
I need to talk with you
The STOCKS in the SONY fasho went up in the past 5 years I start my self with canon it the fact that Sony is lighter wins every time
Cinema camera is really for a production with crew. If you don’t have a crew you really don’t need to be using a cinema camera because you won’t have resources to maximize its potential.
Cinema
I always said gear doesn’t matter, lol yeah was i wrong lmfaoooo gear does matter
I still use the c100 mk2 cuz I'm broke as fuck and its fine.
Couldn’t have said any of this better I shoot with a Sony A7iii and the red Komodo damn near wanna just use my go pro 11 #ManualShooter
But what lenses are you using?? Ppl get so caught up in cameras but you need to put that cash on the glass…and lighting gear!
I am learning that. Lights and equipment to shape light.
Cinema cameras all day
what's wrong with the canon r6 mark ii ? its full frame no crop 4k internal up to 60p , 6k external with atomos. . it can switch between photo video fast . quality is great! colors great ! around $2500
Hybrid!
You don’t need a cinema camera, you’re a UA-camr. It’s basically cosplay at this point.
You didn’t see the “b roll” of him shooting music videos.
@@memcrew1 I know he shoots music videos but he is primarily a UA-camr …he shoot local videos here and there …he doesn’t need a 5K camera if the artist can’t afford him and makes more money off UA-cam
@@King_Gabriel That’s your assumption. We don’t know what he primarily shoots, so it’s hard to say.
@@memcrew1 he said it …it’s not an assumption. He made a video about this topic right after this video about selling the cameras
@@King_Gabriel ok