First Impressions: Victoria Arduino Eagle One Espresso Machine
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- The Victoria Arduino Eagle One is currently on a World Tour before it goes into production in March 2020.
We've managed to get hold of one of the very first models which will be spending the next couple of weeks on show at our Roastery.
If you'd like a closer look, why not join us on the 2nd March when we'll be opening our doors and allowing people to get hands on with this machine.
In the meantime here are our first impressions . . .
Who else is here from James Hoffman's new video explaining it?
It costs more than my car was.
@@D4PPZ456 holy christ. I thought you were joking about having a cheap used car until I found the price.
@@TheTonylegrone you gonna share or just leave us all in suspense?
+1
@@brekkoh it's a little over $16,000.
Was just watching "The Best Espresso Machine Under £500" from James Hoffmann, and I'm watching this now...
If you find one under 500 EVER let me.know
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Excellent, comprehensive review, even if there are other aspects to consider. Well done...
Thanks. We managed to get hold of an early model just before lockdown began. It was also one of the first videos we did. The Eagle One was only on loan so had to be returned but maybe I can return to it again one day.
@@carvetiicoffee Nice job. Will be watching the Clever Dripper guide tomorrow morning, during my 10am Clever Dripper coffee break. Interesting to see if I'm doing anything wrong! 😄
It might very well be the other way round. We learn just as much from the comments and suggestions of others 😃
Hello assalamu alaikum
What happened to the scales built into the trays????? Is there something in place of this function to measure espresso shots
Excellent explanation! I liked.
Thank you
Is it actually driven by an Arduino microcontroller, or is it just unfortunate naming?
The latter! Though I admit I had to google the microcontroller!
Please I'll like to know exactly how to do the volumetric settings
is heating element inside brew boiler or other way?
Im currently considering having VA Eagle One or La Marzocco KB90, VA being more favorable due to its price. What are your thoughts on comparison between VA and La Marzocco?
Yerik Abilov I have both the Eagle one and a Linea PB here (not the KB90). In all honesty I prefer working on the VA kit. While I appreciate how well built the Marzocco machines are, I increasingly question the cost of spares. I can buy VA spares significantly cheaper than LM spares and the ongoing cost of running a machine has to be a consideration. Good luck
I just don't like Lm, not friendly wrist knob for steaming
How much is it!?
Gorgeous machine
Thank you for this quick review . I have some inquiries.
does the back flash hot water mechanism eliminate or reduce the daily regular water back flash with blind basket .
Another question where does it stand compared to Adonis and white eagle and is it suitable for a medium cafe load?.
You still have to do the daily backflush (no getting away with that). I don’t have any experience with the Adonis but have a White Eagle T3. Depends on what you need. Price wise the T3 is better but has a large footprint. To me the key aspect of the Eagle One is its footprint, maximising your working space. Even the 3 Grp has a small footprint. Hope that helps
If I were opening a coffee shop I'd go for fully automatic and have customers input and save their creations. My son-in-law owns a restaurant and we're looking at a fully automatic so they can add more exotic coffee to the menu.
I definitely think fully automatic machines have their place, but maybe not in a coffee shop setting. It will depend on whether the quality of the beverage is an important factor. Even though fully automatic machines are indeed getting better, they still lag behind a skilled barista. In a restaurant setting I get it, where the food is the main event, a fully automatic makes sense, frees up staff and minimises training needs. In a coffee shop setting, where perception is often critical, traditional machines in my opinion, are currently the best option.
@@carvetiicoffee .. The generation today likes technology and the perception of total control. I guess it depends upon which fully automatic espresso machines were talking about, the high-end ones can certainly replicate the best of baristas out there and more importantly time after time at a push of a button. I'm not saying that there's not some person standing behind the counter just smiling at you. Further in the future these machines can do on the fly dissolve solids testing addition to pH and other tests. It's here now...
We work with some very sophisticated fully automatic machines as well as traditional options. We’re currently about to pilot a self serve option with one of our customers. They definitely have a place and I can see them getting better all the time, hence getting involved in the pilot. They are particularly good when coffee has been roasted specifically for them but I have yet to come across a machine that makes the most out of a specialty, lighter roasted coffee. Consistent absolutely, and in the right setting they are the right machine. But not in all settings.
@@carvetiicoffee .. My son-in-law is towards the end of construction of his new restaurant. I'd be and I can assume he'd be interested in what you're going to offer. Oddly enough I've been playing with the idea of the techno coffee shop. LOL I got sucked into coffee becoming a hobby.
Here's the complex instagram.com/p/CMXWUMHLJWj/?igshid=1x7h9yvzb3jsr
I appreciate the information and please keep me in touch.
Please what's the standard pressure of the steamwand
The machine had a boiler pressure of 1.2 bar but this can be changed up or down in the programming
It looks good from behind
Unfortunate timing for a product launch 😕
It's been 8 months, what do you think of it?
Hi just found out that my original reply did not upload for some reason! The machine in the video was pretty much the first to come into the UK and I only had access to it for three weeks. However, lockdown happened so it ended up staying here for pretty much 4 months giving me more time to use it. All of my espresso videos on this channel were filmed on that machine. Both myself and the team have enjoyed using the machine and I'd happily have one here if there was room! The auto purge was my only gripe - I couldn't disable it and as we always extract onto scales I have doused them in hot water multiple times - my failing not the machines!
Which one is better? Dalla Corte or Arduino?
I only have experience of some older Dalla Corte models so I can’t fairly comment. However the Dalla Corte uses a 53/54mm portafilter and I prefer using a 58mm. You can get a much wider range of accessories for 58mm portafilters
@@carvetiicoffee Thanks.
“If need be engage with customers “ 🤣😂
Open the back and show us the circuits? This does not look anything like Mr. Hoffman described. That is to say he created an app friendly machine, which uses electronics which in term are not carbon friendly to produce. Can the machine work in manual mode without apps? Computer controlled machines, are great. But being able to simply service analogue heating and cooling components would have been a helluva lot more impressive.
Reduced parts count is what I want to see. This machine looks like it has added more digital controls. A coffee shop should have a machine that has a box of parts included with each machine, that is the more pragmatic. Give the service parts an honest MTBF rating and let the coffee shop owners turn a few screws and be up and running. This machine fails on all those facets. Of course it might be more energy efficient. But so so goes the efficiency when the proprietary circuit boards are failing or useless.
I don't want a machine to have firmware. I want a machine to have parts which could theoretically be machined in a pinch by somebody else. Smartphone machine...yuck.
We need less complex circuits.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. To be honest when I had the opportunity to use this machine the App was in development and everything was undertaken manually. I had a little look at an example of the App but it definitely was not necessary to use the machine fully.
We operate our own tech support department to provide service and repair backup for our customers, so ease of access to the machine, availability of spares, and quick repairs are all critical to us.
In the past we worked with another manufacturer who produced amazing espresso machines, but the parts were often complex, unique to the manufacturer and expensive. We moved to work with Victoria Arduino in part because of the availability and cost of parts.
The touch screen control on the machine is a definite plus as it makes day to day programming and adjustments really easy. Similarly the solenoid valve steam wands are a step forwards: the internals use fewer parts, they will last longer before repair and they are much quicker and easier to swap out.
I agree with your sentiments, we live in an app centric world and personally I'm a little old school in that respect. This machine might not be a perfect solution but there are some definite welcome advancements here.
computer bad computer too complex
you sound like a caveman lmao
start adapting old man
or else the world gonna leave you behind
price????
A kidney
So he doesn't make a coffee
😍👍🏻
Does this really cost around 14000 USD ???? if so then NUTS!
that is stupid cheap for a high end 2 group commercial machine
Welcome to the world of commercial coffee machines. :) This is actually a very good price.
That's what I paid for a 2 group synesso mvp hydra
it's the ferrari of espresso machines
Never driven a Ferrari 😒 but if what you say is true I might treat myself one day!
Anyone wanna send me €5,400 to buy one? I’ll happily make you a cup if you’re around...