Well he is Solaris so he would still technically exist but I get what you saying although whose to say Solaris could probably split himself back into iblis and mephiles it was never stated that he couldn't so that's just an idea
I think Mephiles would be a good choice for a villain of a Silver spin-off. I can see Mephiles' goals and desires changing because given he's aware of being removed from the timeline, destroying all of time would probably be less appealing
Probably wouldn’t be so bad if literally everything was in the Void. Basically he’s the only living thing in the Void right now. Maybe somewhere Iblis exists in there, but can’t say for sure because we literally never see them. So imagine from Sonic 06 till Generations having literally nobody to interact with.
If Sega decides to bring back Mephiles then I don't think they will bring him back like characters like Metal Sonic or the Deadly Six, they are characters that will be brought back again and again. mephiles on the other hand is probably going to be a really big deal with special trailers and a lot of marketing and merchandise, and probably in a more story focused game
If, and this is a BIG IF, Sonic Team does decide to bring Mephiles back... I envision it being a scenario where he's got to be a proper final boss, but he still wouldn't be this constant entity as a result. There could be a potential ideal of them using some "Thanks to Black Doom's influences in White Space, somehow the barriers of time keeping Mephiles away are now weak enough for him to break through", and he bides his time by lurking, absorbing shadows to give himself more power since absorbing the Shadow of Shadow was enough to prevent his first resealing attempt. Is it retreading the Black Doom story of "Now he's back, he returned from oblivion"? Yes, that will always be how seemingly confirmed dead villains returning works. Admittedly I think it would need some genuinely worthwhile stakes for Mephiles to carry that energy of the past, and for it to work, we basically pull some "all dimensions and fractured timelines are forcibly merged in this destructive web of time", leaving us with this new world. It would potentially be interesting, but it would be a very risky task with likely polarizing results
One way i would have brought him back would be with the time stones or the phantom ruby, or actually both at the same time, or mephiles somehow after his defeat finds the phantom ruby in the future and uses it to maybe not restore the timeline but only himself, after he gets defeated he gets erased... Again
@mariobroultimate1808 Your reply is redundant, since the original comment is clarifying on a point the video itself made. The video said that they could bring Mephiles back in spinoffs without any story explanation, and the comment answered that they were already doing that. Pointing out that they have no canonical relevance is redundant due to already being a core part of the point being discussed.
@@syweb2 When the video said they can bring Mephiles back in non canon spinoffs, the spinoffs this comment mentioned are what the video was referring to.
I think it’s pretty clear Mephiles returned in Shadow Generations because he’s realistically more popular than Infinite from Sonic Forces. He’s much more memorably impactful whereas Infinite was poorly wasted. And it threw us off guard how his fight was represented in a meaningful way in the lore beyond just he’s back for fan service. I think we’re lucky he came back at all. And I’m content with that. Is Sega ready to bring back deeper continuity stories in the forefront definitively going forward? I mean it’s nice to see some continuity effort again for sure. But I don’t want them to rely on the past constantly either if it means screwing with logic. I mean I know we’re talking about a fictional anything can happen franchise. But you said it yourself the cost of what makes a character so good coming back just because. And I definitely agree about them potentially ruining the surprise factor for his return in Shadow Generations. I really don’t go out of my way to see what they added for the game, but the marketing blew up the reveal what’s in store for the game. While it’s good for hype interest, it just would have been better if discovered in game.
Not really the reason why it’s due to the time eater messing around in time where as Eggman said that he used the time eater to undo his defeats so this means that somehow the time eater was able to undo mephiles’ being erased from existence after Elise blew out solaris’ flame
@ I mean nobody ever thought Gun Commander and Black Doom would retuned in a redeemably meaningful way. So I wouldn’t put it past them. But I’m not counting down the days for that to happen. Lol
Both characters were wasted, Mephiles was in one of the worst sonic games ever made and Infinite was written by the worst writter in this franchise's history. The reason why Mephiles was chosen over Infinite was that this would be the last time we would ever see him, this time rift is the only way an encounter with him would be possible, while Infinite can still come back at any time. Another reason would be due to the fact that Shadow at this point in the timeline wouldn't be able to defeat Infinite in case he was in the game, and there is also the factor that Shadow would have to remember infinite in sonic forces since shadow gens happened before Forces, Infinite would just make things much more complicated.
Bringing Mephiles back as some type of demon in a sequel to black knight would be interesting and fun Have an Infinite break his seal because he reminds rumors that the being inside the scepter will grant power. Then the knights of the round table would have to deal with it
I think Mephilis deserves to exist, not for pity, but for what a recurring true force of nature villain would bring to the franchise that Eggman doesn't. They will need to have an extremely strong reason for his return
Mephiles would never be the same after what happened to him. He received exactly what he wanted to do with the rest of the univers, and that would have happened if he had won, for more irony. He would still try everything to make Sonic and the others' lives hell, but if someone tried to destroy everything, he would swallow his pride and hatred and make a truce until everything was resolved, even if only to avoid going back to that hell.
A way Mephiles could return is actually a rather simple one. A small update to Shadow generations where, after fighting Mephiles, if you idle for long enough then your shadow will start to reshape a bit. Essentially, a small update that changes Shadows Shadow only when he stands still for long enough, which is a way of confirming that Mephiles followed Shadow into whitespace through his shadow. An easy way to explain it that works well and still allows for his return.
I'd love for Mephiles to come back. He's my favorite Sonic villain. But as much as I want it to happen, I don't think Sega will do it. Shadow Generations is probably the last we will ever see of him
some things i found neat about where you find his boss gate, is that its placed underground, the arsthetic is different from whats on top of it and also it has a different song playing while youre around that place
Mephiles was a huge threat in Sonic '06, and would be hard to allow him to continue to exist in the main timeline without being such an obvious threat the everything. But you need to remember Mephiles only posed such a big threat when paired with Iblis. Mephiles was able to control time but Iblis was the Destroyer. If you brought back mephiles without Iblis you could still portray him as a big threat, but not an all ending one. And given his time based powers, and the face he is aware of his erasure from the timeline, there is the potintial for him to escape the white space beyond time and return. SO yes it is very possible to bring him back in an organic way that makes sense, while also realisticly scaling him back enough to not be an over powered villain for more long term stories.
There is a strong possibility of Mephiles returning in the future since Sonic Team(through Ian Flynn) confirmed that Iblis is still sealed with Blaze's soul in the main timeline. As long as that's the case, we may very well since Mephiles (and Solaris) making a comeback in a future title.
You got to remember Mephiles is a time God I think as of right now he's just not got all his strength as he's currently trapped in some type of purgatory and he needs to get out of it before he can regain full power and restore himself to the timeline. Then it depends on what he does next which will possibly be trying to somehow restore Iblis and keep failing. It would possibly be interesting if they have a slight side of tragedy for Mephiles, all he wants is to just become Solaris once again but he can't. And one of his actual ways could be trying to recreate the events from the 06 timeline, seeing if somehow that could revive Iblis though realising that he can't. Then when that fails his next motive is then trying to basically rebuild the timeline to the best of his ability but realises that he is not strong enough to do it. Then finally his final motive is to attempt to make an amalgamation of Iblis which works though is very volatile. But it is enough for him to become Solaris, though it is then revealed by either Tails or Robotnik that this version of Solaris is unstable and if they do not stop it then it will implode and then explode taking all time with it. Sonic, Shadow, and Silver then have to defeat the unstable Solaris though it is slightly stronger than before. But ultimately they defeat him and reduce Mephiles back into his base form. Then when Mephiles states that he wanted to become whole again, Sonic will then say that its impossible telling him that no matter what he tries he'll be unable to as it will always fail. Then finally Sonic tells Mephiles that he needs to move on. Then as Mephiles thinks about it there is a moment at the end where possibly due to what Mephiles had been doing all of time is at threat and they need to fix the time space rupture that Mephiles possibly caused before it ripped apart time. It will be here were Mephiles tells them to get out whilst he stays behind to fix his damage closing the time space rupture which ultimately seals him once again into his purgatory this time accepting it as his banishment. I think this could actually bring on a lot of good messages of redemption and moving on. Possibly they could also do it as a type of apology for 06 or try and make it as a way to redeem Sonic 06. Though more likely the apology letter. This is something else. As part of the story they bring back Elise, with Mephiles either using his powers to influence Robotnik into kidnapping her since that is what happened in the 06 timeline and he needs to have that recreated. As he recalls Sonic saving her multiple times and expects that to happen this time however. During Sonic's mission to save her he meets this Prince character who has heard of Elise getting captured and is on his way to save her. Sonic agrees to let the Prince help and after saving Elise it's revealed that the Prince is actually Elise's fiancé. This could be a character a drummed up called Prince Kyiden for a story. Either way this completely throws a spanner into Mephiles plan as it revolved around Sonic and Elise forming an attachment and now that is impossible. This possibly results in Mephiles revealing himself by accident and having a boss fight with Sonic which then during it Shadow shows up and helps with Mephiles retreating. It is possibly that which results in Mephiles going to his timeline recreation plan.
I would really love to see a remaster of Sonic 06 with how great the story's potential in that game and how the gameplay nowadays keep getting better and better
mephiles has always been my favourite sonic character, if you take him at face value he’s very one-note but if you take the time to analyse a lot of small things about 06 he quickly becomes one of the most (maybe unintentionally) complex characters in sonic. his story and the solaris project have a lot of themes that aren’t able to explored through other characters (very religious lore) and so i really like him. i think bringing him back would have to be done very carefully but it could definitely be pulled off. his new characterisation in sxsg gives him a new layer and i think it’d be pretty cool to explore that. but at the end of the day this is still sega, and despite their new polish i’m not sure theyd be able to pull it off well enough sadly
I dont think it makes sense for Mephiles to return without Iblis. Mephiles IS Solaris so it doesn't make sense for him to have any other motivation than to merge with Iblis again
Fun fact, it was confirmed that a version of Iblis still exists inside of Blaze. After she sealed it away and sacrificed herself she ended up sent across space and flung into the Sol Dimension, and after the Solaris Reset she was reborn as a denizen of that dimension. She doesn't KNOW that she has Iblis inside of her, but she does. I suppose there is also the Ifrit, plus lots of other big scary monsters that Mephiles totally could fuse with if he couldn't find Iblis.
@@MrAppleSalad That's cool I had no idea. Even so you'd need to do a lot of contrivance to arrange the return of both Mephiles and Iblis. I love Mephiles but I think he's just too intertwined with the plot of 06 to function well outside of it
@MrAppleSalad wait... are you suggesting Sonic Rush canonically takes place AFTER '06? Nah, cuz that would totally make so much sense, it even gives Burning Blaze a proper origin!
@@aceblaz5502 Take a look again at the scene where Blaze sacrifices herself at the end of 06, it's actually a pretty genius piece of connective storytelling. She tells Silver to seal her in another dimension, and when she turns transparent you can see the cuffs of her shoes change colour for a split second as she fades away. That's the same coloration as Burning Blaze, and the choice of the word "Dimension" is not a coincidence. Maekawa, the writer for 06, even directly confirmed that this was the intention. They wanted to connect Blaze's story in 06 with her appearance in Rush, though unfortunately a lot of the things they had planned were scrapped due to time constraints so Blaze ended up being pretty half-baked in the final release. Still, that last scene is brilliantly done, and yet people still argue over Blaze's origin when it's so clearly laid out for us.
Here's an idea, Shadow opened the boss gate hidden away. They can use that to say that despite the timeline being restored the stuff Shadow or even Sonic did in whitespace left some changes or leftovers that were kept around. Eggman was also manipulating the timeline and BlackDoom was shown to manipulate the whitespace. What I'm saying is that the timeline doesn't necessarily of had to of been fixed fully (think of the Archie Sonic Comic reboot storyline). It did let Sonic and Co remember Classic Sonic after all and the Phantom Ruby also did damage to the timeline with Classic Sonic so there is the story of the timeline still not fully restored. So Mephiles can use his natural time manipulation abilities to take advantage of that.
Robbie Daymond's performance as Mephiles was chef's kiss. It really got me to sympathize with him. I really want him to come back again in a bigger role
In my opinion mephiles doesn’t need to return (but it would be cool if he did), but I did have an few ideas how he could come back: he may look like a hedgehog but he is as slippery as a snake, so it’s not hard to believe he could have somehow escaped when the time eater was destroyed. Another idea is that he’s just so powerful that he just breaks into the timeline by force, but it’s a timeline without iblis for him to merge with. him being a godlike being that will always somehow return would be cool but ultimately if they bring him back it should be his final time as a main villain and any other appearances would just be cameos. There is one other scenario where him being back makes sense, which is if silver ever gets something like shadow generations
I read somewhere that it was confirmed that a part of Iblis still lives inside of Blaze to this day canonically, as it was taken with her to Sol dimension, meaning the timeline being erased didn't actually affect her and the Iblis she sealed within herself, this could also explain why she recognized Crisis City, maybe to Blaze 06 was like a foggy dream rather than just never happening? so for her it did happen but she may not think it was real, she vaguely remembers Crisis City, but not Silver or the actual events that happened. Also, the things i will say next are all merely speculation but i think Sega could potentially cleanup the 06 lore and timeline with something like this: so basically Blaze existing in Silver's future made no sense right? it couldn't happen before Sonic Rush, so what if the events for her went more like, Sonic Rush -> Sonic 06 -> Sonic Rush Adventure, having 06 in-between could work with this theory i'll explain next, so maybe Sega could set Solaris to be the Sol dimension parallel to what Chaos is to Sonic's dimension, they could claim that it was released into Sonic's dimension when Blaze used the Sol Emeralds at the end of Sonic Rush, then Soleanna found it as "The Flame of Hope" (being a time god Solaris could've inserted itself in that point in time of Sonic's dimension) and they began experimenting with it, but their logic was flawed in using the Chaos Emeralds to control a being from another dimension, which requiered the Sol Emeralds instead, this could explain Solaris becoming unstable so violently as response to energy from the Chaos Emeralds, and that's how everything we saw when Shadow and Sillver went to the past happened, so maybe for Blaze at the end of Sonic Rush instead of being sent back to Sol dimension she was sent to Silver's future, as the events that lead to it where indirectly her fault, this theory could also explain why Blaze was helping Silver out instead of being at Sol dimension and why it was so easy for Blaze to seal Iblis within herself while Silver couldn't, she's Sonic's equivalent from the Sol dimension after all, so maybe it was her purpose for being on the future to begin with, seal Iblis back into Sol dimension even if within herself (she'd basically have the same curse as Elise, but she's already pretty stoic tbh so she'd have less trouble keeping it under control). I know it's not a perfect theory of course, but if it was more elaborated and properly excecuted it could be a near perfect way to fix these major plot holes on 06 without ruining Blaze's character (like the other theory that claims 06 happened before Rush), or at the very least, it could fully explain why Blaze was there to begin with and give a proper backstory to Solaris' existence. This could even lead to a reboot of 06, where Blaze is replacing Elise's role (so we get rid of all the dumb romance and the infamous kiss scene that make it so controversial), the events play put relatively the same but in a new setting instead of Soleanna (maybe we go back to Sol dimension?) Mephiles has a much better plan this time to free Iblis from Blaze without making the same mistakes that lead to him being deleted from the timeline in the first place, and also actively seeks revenge on the 3 Hedgehogs for messing up his original plans, and we finally give both Blaze and Silver the relevance they desperately need while bringing back Mephiles in full glory on a better game.
6:40 I don't what's up with my settings then, but I can hear every last line with the music playing quite clearly. Maybe you have the Music set up too high or something, but my default settings work fine with hearing his lines.
I think if they were to bring him back, it’d be like how Bill Cipher was brought back in Book of Bill, have him in a situation where his power doesn’t mean anything, and have him rely on desperate manipulation through a book or something.
I would be fine if some moronic but ingenious character manages to create a small rift in the space time quantinium and part of mephiles manages to go through. Mephiles then manipulate and gaslight the character into helping him fully come back to existance and it will take a "long" time (more than one game ?) for Sonic and co to figure out the character's main goal and the identity of what they want to bring onto their world.
And he was outside of time and space, or in a dimension were past present and future met as one so even though he’s from a deleted timeline, he survive because he wasn’t in the timeline
The best way for them to bring him back is using the fact shadow interacted with him so he does have a memory of mephalis like take a page out of doctor who for bringing him back
When shuttle defeats him a bit of his darkness clings on to shadow so that way he may exist in a timeline that he does not and to make sure that he does exceed upon his task to exist when shuttle appears for giving sonic the chaos emerald the darkness that was on shadow Will try to flee and try to mix in with the time eater well, the Eggman’s i’m currently busy upon bickering with one of another. This also would help to explain how they manage to escape I think.
I think Sega chose to bring Mephiles back in Shadow Gens so they could see how the public would react. Considering how everyone loved it, I think our existence complex boy might have a future, but only Ian Flynn can say.
i feel like saying "mephiles isnt canon" isnt the right word to use since he is still part of the sonic lore, maybe saying he was canonically erased from the timeline is a better explaination
I believe if he does come back he probably used shadows shadow in the manor of seconds before he gets sealed up, meaning shadows shadow is literally mephiles.
Personally, I think Mephiles would look great in a hypothetical future Silver game. Since, just like with Shadow, they kind of had a dynamic, with it being Mephiles who made Silver start this whole time travel thing by manipulating him. So it kind of makes a little sense for them to meet and confront each other, kind of to show a difference in Time-lines, metaphorically.
@goldenascension8635 idk didn't watch it but if there is that means silver will probably appear and same for mephiles hear me out on a post credit scene it slowly zooms in a ruined place and we see scepter of darkness
Well I think there’s one way to bring Mephalis back. He only needs to get one piece of himself back into the timeline to exist right? He can easily pretend to lose while actually riding on Shadow’s back, slowly rebuilding himself and whispering in people’s ears.
Some remit of Mephiles must exist for him to be pulled into white space. The Time Eater doesn't create things, it pulls things in and devours them. So for Crisis City to be in White Space, for Mephiles to be in White Space, some small piece of them must exist. The question is where did it come from? And in that manner, where did the Time Eater come from? I hope they explore this in a future game.
Considering white space existed after Sonic and friends left the egg men trapped their if Mephiles was trapped in white space after Shadow Generations they could use that as a way of bringing him back in future games
I would love for Mephiles to show up in spin offs, like a Racing game, but be the only one taking it overly seriously, like he knows that he is being pulled from the void just for that party thing and that is his torture, that is his hell
A part of me doesn't want Mephelis to come back. He was an amazing villain and bringing him back for a 3rd time feels like Mephelis wouldn't be as impactful
Honestly my goat comes back. I think they have a really easy setup for him considering the fact that he's lived in white space for however many years. So how does he get out? Same way the Eggmans would, presumably. What if they found the Scepter of Darkness and tapped into its powers to get out, accidentally bringing it back with them? Mephiles being reintroduced to the cast also means he would get a chance to be his old manipulative self (which I would really like to see Robbie Daymond take a crack at). He could tell the main cast that the Sonic, Shadow, and Silver of His World were responsible for his timeline getting erased, which technically wouldn't even be a lie! Interesting that you bring up Infinite though, I remember hearing that he hasn't been mentioned in the comics since the VERY beginning of the IDW run...and that Mephiles was in a similar position in the Archie comics. Infinite may be the same case.
Dude of course he was brought back here, when else would they get the opportunity, despite how it seems the events this game isn't actually time travel cus it's actually outside of time which is like the only setting mephiles could return in due to his in universe retcon
For me the explanation for why shadow went to chaos island and Sonic’s version of kingdom valley is because this is Sonic’s past and future, not shadows
honestly if they wanted to make mephiles appear again they could make a sonic 06 remake in the style of ff7 remake where its clear theres some time travel stuff occurring that makes the events not occur the same as the original and use that as an opportunity to change the plot significantly to make it a new game
Eggman seems to like messing with time a lot, between 06, CD, Rivals 2, Gens, and a bunch of comic plots. Mephiles could reemerge when he does it again... Or maybe, hear me out: _Sonic Rush 3._ Eggman Nega is Eggman's grandson, yet he keeps appearing in the present timeframe, which means he's time travelling as well. This gives the possibility of Mephiles coming back, within the Sol Dimension. Blaze's home. Both her and the Sol Emeralds have inherent connections to fire. So does Mephiles, given Solaris was Soleanna's 'eternal flame', and his other half in Iblis was known as the Flames of Disaster. And Iblis was sealed inside of Blaze at the end of Silver's story in '06. Even if the Rush games' Blaze isn't the same as '06 Blaze, Sonic Team could almost certainly come up with a reason for Mephiles to actively pursue her or the Sol Emeralds.
Well, if I remember correctly, the head of Shadow Generations said he wanted to go back and make a new Sonic 06 remake, so there may be hope for them to bring Mephiles back. I'm just hoping they redeem Infinite as well at the moment, given how Forces screwed him over, lol.
I think the best thing that could happen if Mephiles gets restored to the timeline is if he ultimately wins in the next game. And then, the next-next game would be a continuation for how to defeat him and fix the main Sonic universe. Basically Mephiles would be like Thanos and would win in the first game, just like Thanos did in Infinity War. But then, the heroes would make a comeback in the second game and defeat Mephiles, just like how the Avengers restored the population of the entire universe and defeated Thanos in Endgame.
Sega could of just hired the project 06 guy, repack the games and sell them in modern consoles and voila, the 06 game is revived, they put little to no investment on it and the guy can profit off his work, if they did invest in the game then it could be even better
Him not coming back is what made him so powerful and evil. If you make him like a zavok or eggman then he’s just cringe. He should never come back despite how great he was
While I love Mephiles as a villain I don’t want him to come back in canon, it would completely ruin Elise’s sacrifice at the end of 06 and would make no sense
There is no future for him, ever
No… I want him… to EXIST
“There’s no future for you. EVER.”
Yeah he wont have kids...
The most tragic thing about Mephiles is that "I want to exist" is a double entendre.
He can't exist if he chooses to allow Solaris to.
Well he is Solaris so he would still technically exist but I get what you saying although whose to say Solaris could probably split himself back into iblis and mephiles it was never stated that he couldn't so that's just an idea
I think Mephiles would be a good choice for a villain of a Silver spin-off. I can see Mephiles' goals and desires changing because given he's aware of being removed from the timeline, destroying all of time would probably be less appealing
Or another Shadow spin-off since Mephiles represents Shadow's inner demon.
Probably wouldn’t be so bad if literally everything was in the Void. Basically he’s the only living thing in the Void right now. Maybe somewhere Iblis exists in there, but can’t say for sure because we literally never see them. So imagine from Sonic 06 till Generations having literally nobody to interact with.
If Sega decides to bring back Mephiles then I don't think they will bring him back like characters like Metal Sonic or the Deadly Six, they are characters that will be brought back again and again.
mephiles on the other hand is probably going to be a really big deal with special trailers and a lot of marketing and merchandise, and probably in a more story focused game
If, and this is a BIG IF, Sonic Team does decide to bring Mephiles back... I envision it being a scenario where he's got to be a proper final boss, but he still wouldn't be this constant entity as a result.
There could be a potential ideal of them using some "Thanks to Black Doom's influences in White Space, somehow the barriers of time keeping Mephiles away are now weak enough for him to break through", and he bides his time by lurking, absorbing shadows to give himself more power since absorbing the Shadow of Shadow was enough to prevent his first resealing attempt. Is it retreading the Black Doom story of "Now he's back, he returned from oblivion"? Yes, that will always be how seemingly confirmed dead villains returning works.
Admittedly I think it would need some genuinely worthwhile stakes for Mephiles to carry that energy of the past, and for it to work, we basically pull some "all dimensions and fractured timelines are forcibly merged in this destructive web of time", leaving us with this new world. It would potentially be interesting, but it would be a very risky task with likely polarizing results
One way i would have brought him back would be with the time stones or the phantom ruby, or actually both at the same time, or mephiles somehow after his defeat finds the phantom ruby in the future and uses it to maybe not restore the timeline but only himself, after he gets defeated he gets erased... Again
It could also help them explain how the hell is everything canon now
Project 06 still has something to say about this guy.
Mephiles has been making appearances in mobile games like Sonic Runners, Dash, and Forces Speed Battle for years.
Those are non-canon with no story role.
@@mariobroultimate1808 The video already covered that point.
@@syweb2 I know. I'm responding to this comment. Not the video.
@mariobroultimate1808 Your reply is redundant, since the original comment is clarifying on a point the video itself made. The video said that they could bring Mephiles back in spinoffs without any story explanation, and the comment answered that they were already doing that. Pointing out that they have no canonical relevance is redundant due to already being a core part of the point being discussed.
@@syweb2 When the video said they can bring Mephiles back in non canon spinoffs, the spinoffs this comment mentioned are what the video was referring to.
I think it’s pretty clear Mephiles returned in Shadow Generations because he’s realistically more popular than Infinite from Sonic Forces. He’s much more memorably impactful whereas Infinite was poorly wasted. And it threw us off guard how his fight was represented in a meaningful way in the lore beyond just he’s back for fan service. I think we’re lucky he came back at all. And I’m content with that. Is Sega ready to bring back deeper continuity stories in the forefront definitively going forward? I mean it’s nice to see some continuity effort again for sure. But I don’t want them to rely on the past constantly either if it means screwing with logic. I mean I know we’re talking about a fictional anything can happen franchise. But you said it yourself the cost of what makes a character so good coming back just because. And I definitely agree about them potentially ruining the surprise factor for his return in Shadow Generations. I really don’t go out of my way to see what they added for the game, but the marketing blew up the reveal what’s in store for the game. While it’s good for hype interest, it just would have been better if discovered in game.
Not really the reason why it’s due to the time eater messing around in time where as Eggman said that he used the time eater to undo his defeats so this means that somehow the time eater was able to undo mephiles’ being erased from existence after Elise blew out solaris’ flame
@That’s the game’s way of explaining popularity for Mephiles return.
@@MrGamer07100Infinite can come back in any context, this way the only context that Mephiles could come back.
@ I mean nobody ever thought Gun Commander and Black Doom would retuned in a redeemably meaningful way. So I wouldn’t put it past them. But I’m not counting down the days for that to happen. Lol
Both characters were wasted, Mephiles was in one of the worst sonic games ever made and Infinite was written by the worst writter in this franchise's history.
The reason why Mephiles was chosen over Infinite was that this would be the last time we would ever see him, this time rift is the only way an encounter with him would be possible, while Infinite can still come back at any time. Another reason would be due to the fact that Shadow at this point in the timeline wouldn't be able to defeat Infinite in case he was in the game, and there is also the factor that Shadow would have to remember infinite in sonic forces since shadow gens happened before Forces, Infinite would just make things much more complicated.
Bringing Mephiles back as some type of demon in a sequel to black knight would be interesting and fun
Have an Infinite break his seal because he reminds rumors that the being inside the scepter will grant power. Then the knights of the round table would have to deal with it
I think Mephilis deserves to exist, not for pity, but for what a recurring true force of nature villain would bring to the franchise that Eggman doesn't. They will need to have an extremely strong reason for his return
Mephiles would never be the same after what happened to him. He received exactly what he wanted to do with the rest of the univers, and that would have happened if he had won, for more irony.
He would still try everything to make Sonic and the others' lives hell, but if someone tried to destroy everything, he would swallow his pride and hatred and make a truce until everything was resolved, even if only to avoid going back to that hell.
A way Mephiles could return is actually a rather simple one. A small update to Shadow generations where, after fighting Mephiles, if you idle for long enough then your shadow will start to reshape a bit.
Essentially, a small update that changes Shadows Shadow only when he stands still for long enough, which is a way of confirming that Mephiles followed Shadow into whitespace through his shadow. An easy way to explain it that works well and still allows for his return.
Fun fact. A recent interview with sonic team revealed that they're considering remaking Sonic 06
I'd love for Mephiles to come back. He's my favorite Sonic villain. But as much as I want it to happen, I don't think Sega will do it. Shadow Generations is probably the last we will ever see of him
some things i found neat about where you find his boss gate, is that its placed underground, the arsthetic is different from whats on top of it and also it has a different song playing while youre around that place
Mephiles was a huge threat in Sonic '06, and would be hard to allow him to continue to exist in the main timeline without being such an obvious threat the everything. But you need to remember Mephiles only posed such a big threat when paired with Iblis. Mephiles was able to control time but Iblis was the Destroyer. If you brought back mephiles without Iblis you could still portray him as a big threat, but not an all ending one. And given his time based powers, and the face he is aware of his erasure from the timeline, there is the potintial for him to escape the white space beyond time and return. SO yes it is very possible to bring him back in an organic way that makes sense, while also realisticly scaling him back enough to not be an over powered villain for more long term stories.
There is a strong possibility of Mephiles returning in the future since Sonic Team(through Ian Flynn) confirmed that Iblis is still sealed with Blaze's soul in the main timeline. As long as that's the case, we may very well since Mephiles (and Solaris) making a comeback in a future title.
You got to remember Mephiles is a time God I think as of right now he's just not got all his strength as he's currently trapped in some type of purgatory and he needs to get out of it before he can regain full power and restore himself to the timeline. Then it depends on what he does next which will possibly be trying to somehow restore Iblis and keep failing.
It would possibly be interesting if they have a slight side of tragedy for Mephiles, all he wants is to just become Solaris once again but he can't. And one of his actual ways could be trying to recreate the events from the 06 timeline, seeing if somehow that could revive Iblis though realising that he can't. Then when that fails his next motive is then trying to basically rebuild the timeline to the best of his ability but realises that he is not strong enough to do it.
Then finally his final motive is to attempt to make an amalgamation of Iblis which works though is very volatile. But it is enough for him to become Solaris, though it is then revealed by either Tails or Robotnik that this version of Solaris is unstable and if they do not stop it then it will implode and then explode taking all time with it. Sonic, Shadow, and Silver then have to defeat the unstable Solaris though it is slightly stronger than before. But ultimately they defeat him and reduce Mephiles back into his base form.
Then when Mephiles states that he wanted to become whole again, Sonic will then say that its impossible telling him that no matter what he tries he'll be unable to as it will always fail. Then finally Sonic tells Mephiles that he needs to move on. Then as Mephiles thinks about it there is a moment at the end where possibly due to what Mephiles had been doing all of time is at threat and they need to fix the time space rupture that Mephiles possibly caused before it ripped apart time.
It will be here were Mephiles tells them to get out whilst he stays behind to fix his damage closing the time space rupture which ultimately seals him once again into his purgatory this time accepting it as his banishment.
I think this could actually bring on a lot of good messages of redemption and moving on. Possibly they could also do it as a type of apology for 06 or try and make it as a way to redeem Sonic 06. Though more likely the apology letter.
This is something else. As part of the story they bring back Elise, with Mephiles either using his powers to influence Robotnik into kidnapping her since that is what happened in the 06 timeline and he needs to have that recreated. As he recalls Sonic saving her multiple times and expects that to happen this time however. During Sonic's mission to save her he meets this Prince character who has heard of Elise getting captured and is on his way to save her. Sonic agrees to let the Prince help and after saving Elise it's revealed that the Prince is actually Elise's fiancé. This could be a character a drummed up called Prince Kyiden for a story.
Either way this completely throws a spanner into Mephiles plan as it revolved around Sonic and Elise forming an attachment and now that is impossible. This possibly results in Mephiles revealing himself by accident and having a boss fight with Sonic which then during it Shadow shows up and helps with Mephiles retreating. It is possibly that which results in Mephiles going to his timeline recreation plan.
Mephiles can try to exist with the phantom ruby. By influencing infinite as his protege
When I heard Mephiles' desperation for wanting to exist again, it really stuck to me. I feel bad for him. I want him to exist too.
I hope so. That way, Sonic can return the favor and murder Mephiles back.
Mephiles is literally immortal though.
@ That’s cope
@@supersonicstyleatsonicspeed No. he is literally immortal, he's one half of a multiversal chaotic time god, he literally cannot be killed or die.
@ Yet he got erased from existence and now doesn’t exist at all. Definitely not immortal.
@@supersonicstyleatsonicspeed Except he DOES still exist, he exists outside of space/time. Basically a void of nothingness, but he's still alive.
I would really love to see a remaster of Sonic 06 with how great the story's potential in that game and how the gameplay nowadays keep getting better and better
mephiles has always been my favourite sonic character, if you take him at face value he’s very one-note but if you take the time to analyse a lot of small things about 06 he quickly becomes one of the most (maybe unintentionally) complex characters in sonic. his story and the solaris project have a lot of themes that aren’t able to explored through other characters (very religious lore) and so i really like him.
i think bringing him back would have to be done very carefully but it could definitely be pulled off. his new characterisation in sxsg gives him a new layer and i think it’d be pretty cool to explore that. but at the end of the day this is still sega, and despite their new polish i’m not sure theyd be able to pull it off well enough sadly
Funny how Mephiles head comically overshodows the FUTURE text in the thumbnail😂
I dont think it makes sense for Mephiles to return without Iblis. Mephiles IS Solaris so it doesn't make sense for him to have any other motivation than to merge with Iblis again
Fun fact, it was confirmed that a version of Iblis still exists inside of Blaze. After she sealed it away and sacrificed herself she ended up sent across space and flung into the Sol Dimension, and after the Solaris Reset she was reborn as a denizen of that dimension. She doesn't KNOW that she has Iblis inside of her, but she does. I suppose there is also the Ifrit, plus lots of other big scary monsters that Mephiles totally could fuse with if he couldn't find Iblis.
@@MrAppleSalad That's cool I had no idea. Even so you'd need to do a lot of contrivance to arrange the return of both Mephiles and Iblis. I love Mephiles but I think he's just too intertwined with the plot of 06 to function well outside of it
@MrAppleSalad wait... are you suggesting Sonic Rush canonically takes place AFTER '06?
Nah, cuz that would totally make so much sense, it even gives Burning Blaze a proper origin!
@@aceblaz5502 Take a look again at the scene where Blaze sacrifices herself at the end of 06, it's actually a pretty genius piece of connective storytelling. She tells Silver to seal her in another dimension, and when she turns transparent you can see the cuffs of her shoes change colour for a split second as she fades away. That's the same coloration as Burning Blaze, and the choice of the word "Dimension" is not a coincidence. Maekawa, the writer for 06, even directly confirmed that this was the intention. They wanted to connect Blaze's story in 06 with her appearance in Rush, though unfortunately a lot of the things they had planned were scrapped due to time constraints so Blaze ended up being pretty half-baked in the final release. Still, that last scene is brilliantly done, and yet people still argue over Blaze's origin when it's so clearly laid out for us.
So Blaze is basically Silver’s Elise.
That’s tragically adorable.
I wonder if Infinite is planned to be Sonic’s Iblis/Mephiles.
A sonic 06 reimagine would probably be cool
Idk man, seeing Memphis on a go cart or something would definitely lessen him because it’s so fucking silly
12:10 - 12:15 definitely did not age well lol. A remake of the game is something they may consider doing as confirmed recently.
Could you imagine a year of Silver or Mephiles and you have to beat him as Silver when he fused with his other half.
Here's an idea, Shadow opened the boss gate hidden away. They can use that to say that despite the timeline being restored the stuff Shadow or even Sonic did in whitespace left some changes or leftovers that were kept around. Eggman was also manipulating the timeline and BlackDoom was shown to manipulate the whitespace.
What I'm saying is that the timeline doesn't necessarily of had to of been fixed fully (think of the Archie Sonic Comic reboot storyline). It did let Sonic and Co remember Classic Sonic after all and the
Phantom Ruby also did damage to the timeline with Classic Sonic so there is the story of the timeline still not fully restored.
So Mephiles can use his natural time manipulation abilities to take advantage of that.
Robbie Daymond's performance as Mephiles was chef's kiss. It really got me to sympathize with him. I really want him to come back again in a bigger role
I felt so bad for mephiles
What a coincidence. I just beat the Mephiles boss in Shadow Generations
In my opinion mephiles doesn’t need to return (but it would be cool if he did), but I did have an few ideas how he could come back: he may look like a hedgehog but he is as slippery as a snake, so it’s not hard to believe he could have somehow escaped when the time eater was destroyed. Another idea is that he’s just so powerful that he just breaks into the timeline by force, but it’s a timeline without iblis for him to merge with. him being a godlike being that will always somehow return would be cool but ultimately if they bring him back it should be his final time as a main villain and any other appearances would just be cameos. There is one other scenario where him being back makes sense, which is if silver ever gets something like shadow generations
I read somewhere that it was confirmed that a part of Iblis still lives inside of Blaze to this day canonically, as it was taken with her to Sol dimension, meaning the timeline being erased didn't actually affect her and the Iblis she sealed within herself, this could also explain why she recognized Crisis City, maybe to Blaze 06 was like a foggy dream rather than just never happening? so for her it did happen but she may not think it was real, she vaguely remembers Crisis City, but not Silver or the actual events that happened.
Also, the things i will say next are all merely speculation but i think Sega could potentially cleanup the 06 lore and timeline with something like this: so basically Blaze existing in Silver's future made no sense right? it couldn't happen before Sonic Rush, so what if the events for her went more like, Sonic Rush -> Sonic 06 -> Sonic Rush Adventure, having 06 in-between could work with this theory i'll explain next, so maybe Sega could set Solaris to be the Sol dimension parallel to what Chaos is to Sonic's dimension, they could claim that it was released into Sonic's dimension when Blaze used the Sol Emeralds at the end of Sonic Rush, then Soleanna found it as "The Flame of Hope" (being a time god Solaris could've inserted itself in that point in time of Sonic's dimension) and they began experimenting with it, but their logic was flawed in using the Chaos Emeralds to control a being from another dimension, which requiered the Sol Emeralds instead, this could explain Solaris becoming unstable so violently as response to energy from the Chaos Emeralds, and that's how everything we saw when Shadow and Sillver went to the past happened, so maybe for Blaze at the end of Sonic Rush instead of being sent back to Sol dimension she was sent to Silver's future, as the events that lead to it where indirectly her fault, this theory could also explain why Blaze was helping Silver out instead of being at Sol dimension and why it was so easy for Blaze to seal Iblis within herself while Silver couldn't, she's Sonic's equivalent from the Sol dimension after all, so maybe it was her purpose for being on the future to begin with, seal Iblis back into Sol dimension even if within herself (she'd basically have the same curse as Elise, but she's already pretty stoic tbh so she'd have less trouble keeping it under control).
I know it's not a perfect theory of course, but if it was more elaborated and properly excecuted it could be a near perfect way to fix these major plot holes on 06 without ruining Blaze's character (like the other theory that claims 06 happened before Rush), or at the very least, it could fully explain why Blaze was there to begin with and give a proper backstory to Solaris' existence.
This could even lead to a reboot of 06, where Blaze is replacing Elise's role (so we get rid of all the dumb romance and the infamous kiss scene that make it so controversial), the events play put relatively the same but in a new setting instead of Soleanna (maybe we go back to Sol dimension?) Mephiles has a much better plan this time to free Iblis from Blaze without making the same mistakes that lead to him being deleted from the timeline in the first place, and also actively seeks revenge on the 3 Hedgehogs for messing up his original plans, and we finally give both Blaze and Silver the relevance they desperately need while bringing back Mephiles in full glory on a better game.
Mephiles would be cool in a silver generations
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I don't what's up with my settings then, but I can hear every last line with the music playing quite clearly. Maybe you have the Music set up too high or something, but my default settings work fine with hearing his lines.
For me, i think it'll be cool if mephiles showed up in the movie universe.
I think if they were to bring him back, it’d be like how Bill Cipher was brought back in Book of Bill, have him in a situation where his power doesn’t mean anything, and have him rely on desperate manipulation through a book or something.
I would be fine if some moronic but ingenious character manages to create a small rift in the space time quantinium and part of mephiles manages to go through. Mephiles then manipulate and gaslight the character into helping him fully come back to existance and it will take a "long" time (more than one game ?) for Sonic and co to figure out the character's main goal and the identity of what they want to bring onto their world.
I really liked his rainbowish spear blade, i wish he spammed that move more. Like multiple spear pillars coming out the ground
And he was outside of time and space, or in a dimension were past present and future met as one so even though he’s from a deleted timeline, he survive because he wasn’t in the timeline
The best way for them to bring him back is using the fact shadow interacted with him so he does have a memory of mephalis like take a page out of doctor who for bringing him back
When shuttle defeats him a bit of his darkness clings on to shadow so that way he may exist in a timeline that he does not and to make sure that he does exceed upon his task to exist when shuttle appears for giving sonic the chaos emerald the darkness that was on shadow Will try to flee and try to mix in with the time eater well, the Eggman’s i’m currently busy upon bickering with one of another. This also would help to explain how they manage to escape I think.
He ain't coming back. The death of the Time Eater undid everything.
I think Sega chose to bring Mephiles back in Shadow Gens so they could see how the public would react.
Considering how everyone loved it, I think our existence complex boy might have a future, but only Ian Flynn can say.
Idea of a new Sonic game: Sonic and the return of Solaris.
Developer: Sonic Team
Publisher: Sega
Director: Morio Kishimoto
Producers: Shun Nakamura, Takashi Iizuka
Executive Producers: Haruki Satomi, Yukio Sugino, Shuji Utsumi, Osamu Ohashi
Designers: Morio Kishimoto, Junpei Ootsu
Programmer: Hiroki Tokunaga
Artists: Sachiko Kawamura, Yoshitaka Miura
Writers: Shun Nakamura (Story), Kiyoko Yoshimura (Scenario and Original Dialogue Writer), Shiro Maekawa (Scenario and Original Dialogue Writer) Warren Graff (English adaptor), Ken Pontac (English adaptor), Ian Flynn (English adaptor)
Composers: Cash Cash, Crush 40, Yasufumi Fukuda, Naofumi Hataya, Richard Jacques, Yutaka Minobe, Tomoya Ohtani, Jun Senoue, Kenichi Tokoi
Engine: Hedgehog Engine 2
Casts:
Sonic: Roger Craig Smith (English) Jun'ichi Kanemaru (Japanese)
Tails: Kate Higgins (English) Ryō Hirohashi (Japanese)
Knuckles: Travis Willingham (English) Nobutoshi Canna (Japanese)
Amy: Cindy Robinson (English) Taeko Kawata (Japanese)
Cream: Cream (English) Sayaka Aoki (Japanese)
Vector: Keith Silverstein (English) Kenta Miyake (Japanese)
Espio: Matthew Mercer (English) Yūki Masuda (Japanese)
Charmy: Colleen O'Shaughnessey (English) Yōko Teppōzuka (Japanese)
Shadow: Kirk Thornton (English) Kōji Yusa (Japanese)
Rouge: Karen Strassman (English) Rumi Ochiai (Japanese)
Omega: Aaron LaPlante (English) Taiten Kusunoki (Japanese)
Silver: Bryce Papenbrook (English) Daisuke Ono (Japanese)
Blaze: Erica Lindbeck (English) Nao Takamori (Japanese)
Mephiles: Robbie Daymond (English) Takayuki Sakazume (Japanese)
Iblis: ???
Eggman: Mike Pollock (English) Kotaro Nakamura (Japanese)
Orbot: Kirk Thornton (English) Mitsuo Iwata (Japanese)
Cubot: Wally Wingert (English) Wataru Takagi (Japanese)
In this game Sonic finally interacts Mephiles.
Story
Sonic Story
Shadow Story
Silver Story
Last Story
i feel like saying "mephiles isnt canon" isnt the right word to use since he is still part of the sonic lore, maybe saying he was canonically erased from the timeline is a better explaination
I believe if he does come back he probably used shadows shadow in the manor of seconds before he gets sealed up, meaning shadows shadow is literally mephiles.
Personally, I think Mephiles would look great in a hypothetical future Silver game. Since, just like with Shadow, they kind of had a dynamic, with it being Mephiles who made Silver start this whole time travel thing by manipulating him. So it kind of makes a little sense for them to meet and confront each other, kind of to show a difference in Time-lines, metaphorically.
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movie version of mephiles would go fire tho
Didn't the Knuckles series indirectly confirm at least Iblis existing in the mcu of Sonic?
@goldenascension8635 idk didn't watch it but if there is that means silver will probably appear and same for mephiles hear me out on a post credit scene it slowly zooms in a ruined place and we see scepter of darkness
Well I think there’s one way to bring Mephalis back. He only needs to get one piece of himself back into the timeline to exist right? He can easily pretend to lose while actually riding on Shadow’s back, slowly rebuilding himself and whispering in people’s ears.
I just realized... one of his attacks in the bossight is tilting towers... he got too tilted at the towers...
Some remit of Mephiles must exist for him to be pulled into white space. The Time Eater doesn't create things, it pulls things in and devours them. So for Crisis City to be in White Space, for Mephiles to be in White Space, some small piece of them must exist. The question is where did it come from? And in that manner, where did the Time Eater come from?
I hope they explore this in a future game.
Probably whatever is left of 06’s timeline
Considering white space existed after Sonic and friends left the egg men trapped their if Mephiles was trapped in white space after Shadow Generations they could use that as a way of bringing him back in future games
I would love for Mephiles to show up in spin offs, like a Racing game, but be the only one taking it overly seriously, like he knows that he is being pulled from the void just for that party thing and that is his torture, that is his hell
A part of me doesn't want Mephelis to come back. He was an amazing villain and bringing him back for a 3rd time feels like Mephelis wouldn't be as impactful
I already went over a possible story with Mephiles returning I'm not going over it again its terrable.
Probably not aside from maybe small cameos.
Honestly my goat comes back. I think they have a really easy setup for him considering the fact that he's lived in white space for however many years. So how does he get out? Same way the Eggmans would, presumably. What if they found the Scepter of Darkness and tapped into its powers to get out, accidentally bringing it back with them?
Mephiles being reintroduced to the cast also means he would get a chance to be his old manipulative self (which I would really like to see Robbie Daymond take a crack at). He could tell the main cast that the Sonic, Shadow, and Silver of His World were responsible for his timeline getting erased, which technically wouldn't even be a lie!
Interesting that you bring up Infinite though, I remember hearing that he hasn't been mentioned in the comics since the VERY beginning of the IDW run...and that Mephiles was in a similar position in the Archie comics. Infinite may be the same case.
Dude of course he was brought back here, when else would they get the opportunity, despite how it seems the events this game isn't actually time travel cus it's actually outside of time which is like the only setting mephiles could return in due to his in universe retcon
Honestly, I'd give Mephiles the Phantom Ruby to try to make Mephiles the best last-minute twist villain he could be.
The Ruby was created under his influence.
For me the explanation for why shadow went to chaos island and Sonic’s version of kingdom valley is because this is Sonic’s past and future, not shadows
crisis city's there in the og and has iblis i kind of want infinite as a boss along with some mania stuff in sonic x shadow generations
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He better be the villain in the 6th Sonic Movie(due to the game title).
honestly if they wanted to make mephiles appear again they could make a sonic 06 remake in the style of ff7 remake where its clear theres some time travel stuff occurring that makes the events not occur the same as the original and use that as an opportunity to change the plot significantly to make it a new game
Eggman seems to like messing with time a lot, between 06, CD, Rivals 2, Gens, and a bunch of comic plots. Mephiles could reemerge when he does it again...
Or maybe, hear me out: _Sonic Rush 3._
Eggman Nega is Eggman's grandson, yet he keeps appearing in the present timeframe, which means he's time travelling as well. This gives the possibility of Mephiles coming back, within the Sol Dimension. Blaze's home. Both her and the Sol Emeralds have inherent connections to fire. So does Mephiles, given Solaris was Soleanna's 'eternal flame', and his other half in Iblis was known as the Flames of Disaster. And Iblis was sealed inside of Blaze at the end of Silver's story in '06.
Even if the Rush games' Blaze isn't the same as '06 Blaze, Sonic Team could almost certainly come up with a reason for Mephiles to actively pursue her or the Sol Emeralds.
Well, if I remember correctly, the head of Shadow Generations said he wanted to go back and make a new Sonic 06 remake, so there may be hope for them to bring Mephiles back. I'm just hoping they redeem Infinite as well at the moment, given how Forces screwed him over, lol.
Infinite comes back and recanons mephiles, they fuse to form a messed up imperfect version of solaria
10:37 Allegedly? What do you mean, allegedly? There are several videos that show you the explanation. It's definitely well documented at this point.
I think the best thing that could happen if Mephiles gets restored to the timeline is if he ultimately wins in the next game. And then, the next-next game would be a continuation for how to defeat him and fix the main Sonic universe. Basically Mephiles would be like Thanos and would win in the first game, just like Thanos did in Infinity War. But then, the heroes would make a comeback in the second game and defeat Mephiles, just like how the Avengers restored the population of the entire universe and defeated Thanos in Endgame.
Now he’s here because silver said “he broke through” and living in their world 🌍 (silver channel)
imagine Mephiles in one of the Sonic movies, i mean they already have Iblis
he could return if silver got a game cause mephiles was tied in with silver's story
mephiles is kinda like a exe character made by sega it self also i heard that shadow generations devs are willing to make a 06 remake
I’ll have to write this down
Mephiles already is in spin-off games, just the bad Mobile ones
Mephiles has a future if Sega thinks he'll bring in more money. It's all about the money, people. Never forget that.
Mephiles should return
short answer NO if Sega doesn't care for their side characters why would they ever think about villains?
It Mephiles comes back as a villain then hyper forms should come back also
Would be nice if SEGA just remade Sonic 06 but as a good game, maybe for 2026 and call it Sonic 26.
Sega could of just hired the project 06 guy, repack the games and sell them in modern consoles and voila, the 06 game is revived, they put little to no investment on it and the guy can profit off his work, if they did invest in the game then it could be even better
For me Mephiles is to Shadow what Metal Sonic is to Sonic
I think will be closer to 16 or 17 years not 20
Him not coming back is what made him so powerful and evil. If you make him like a zavok or eggman then he’s just cringe. He should never come back despite how great he was
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Ugh I’m glad there’s a mod that fixes Mephiles’ voice I hate the new voice
There is no future for him Ever.
oh so you're woke are you? and I was going to sub.
No, he literally said so
I don't care for Mephiles' new voice; the old one was better.
While I love Mephiles as a villain I don’t want him to come back in canon, it would completely ruin Elise’s sacrifice at the end of 06 and would make no sense