During the last game, you missed an earlier win. Flip the Invasion, have it enter as a copy of the god, then it dies to legend rule. You don't need a sac outlet.
yes, at around the 31 minute mark, he could have just Obscura Charm'd Elias to the battlefield, flip Invasion into Aclazotz and just legend rule away to win it instead of cloning a Loran.
Wow, I learned TWO things from this, that you can rebound an adventure into the creature, AND how Lazotep Convert copying an Ixalan God returns as itself and not the opposite side of the card. Also really love how this just turns into a grindy midrange deck when the combo doesn't come together. Great video!
Interestingly, this invasion of amonkhet trick already existed in standard with Edgar, Charmed Groom // Edgar Markov's Coffin. The thing that makes the combo work is the new free sac outlet in Bart
This whole set has been about the uncommons. Lattice fling combo, Appraiser getting a full on ban as an uncommon and now Bart being the missing piece in an infinite combo.
as a current standard player, I try not to let Invasion of Amonkhet resolve/flip even if I don't know the exact gameplan because there will always be some shenanigans that i regret letting through.
17:54 Am I missing something? You could've played Pakpa to block Kumano before you surrendered and if you're lucky, maybe they hit lands rather than gas allowing you to get Acla down for a better blocking situation. Sure, any removal ends you but there was a chance there.
He could've also just destroyed the faces with charm. I don't know why he didn't make them have it, they were in too deck mode Ah I see, playing the creature gives him a flipped battle next turn if he survived and is the better play than charming
If he played Pakpa to block Kumano, Kumano would've died and he would've been pinged for 1 because of the Monster role token attached to it. There was no chance.
One of the funny interactions with the transform rules is if they ever print a clone creature with a blank second face, it would function and be able to transform.
at 38:39 with lazotep convert as a copy of aclazots on the battlefield and an Elas il-kor, with a 2nd lazotep convert coming into play couldn't you perpetually legend rule the aclazots to combo off without needing Bartoleme?
Throwing Ratadrabik in here would be ridiculous, especially if you add in the white god. Not necessary for you to win with the deck, but it would be fun
why don't you play bitter triumph in that deck? It's not only removal, it also allows you to place your combo pieces conveniently where you need it - in the graveyard. Also you can do the same thing with the black and white Edgar form VOW. That one is easier to get in the grave, when you have it on the battlefield (since you can sac the artifact as well). + he provides blockers (with Lifelink!) for days
This new set was a nightmare for Seth's pronunciation. I find it hilarious he can pronounce "Ojer Pakpatiq" right but calls Kaito "Suzuki". Never change, Seth.
This week and last week were goofy decks, but they didn’t quite feel like against the odds. Silly combos are goid fun, but what happened to playing bad cards?
Okay funny story. I’ve been running Aclazotz/Invasion of Amonkhet in a deck together, and I tried this in a game with it but when they killed the flipped Invasion it didn’t trigger to return to the battlefield??? I just assumed I was wrong and the combo just didn’t work, but seeing this video I’m assuming they must’ve used exile removal and I just didn’t realize it 🤔
Hey Seth. I just saw the deck tech and was wondering if you tried Mirrorhall Mimic in this deck. It does flip, so 6ou could copy Aclozotz and flip it to start copying one of their creatures?
It enters transformed... due to the death trigger on the Gods. They die and return transformed. Aka they return as the backside, and the backside of Invasion of Amonkhet is Lazotep Convert, which enters the battlefield and copies the god again.
Haha I also have cards that I praise, but that definetly sees akward situations. Like 'Tolarian Contempt' from MAT. It can be really powerful, because it can potentially delay your opponents card draws, if they decide to put the creatures on top of their deck. If they don't, then fine. But it can also be really akward with creatures that has really strong ETB triggers like Atraxa and Etali for instance 😂 I have used 'Tolarian Contempt' in a mono blue tempo/control deck before, and in that deck it went pretty well. Really frustrated my opponents I think (which does makes me feel bad. Why I rarely play control), because I had enough countering spells to potentially be able to counter the creatures when they were about to enter the battlefield again. So this is where that card is good. If you didn't get to counter several of your opponents creatures earlier in the game, then you can use 'Tolarian Contempt' to do it at a later turn, when they'd re-cast their creatures. Like you'd do with something like 'Fading Hope'. Now, I don't usually play these kinds of decks very often, since I really hate playing against them myself 😅 So I have tried the card out in a mono blue midrange deck. But for that it's not really that good, because you won't have enough countering spells to back you up. In a control deck, the Tolarian Contempt and countering spells are having eachothers backs in a way, which is actually kind of cool 😊
Invading Amonkhet to exploit a loophole in the rules and win on the spot with infinitely sacrificed zombie gods does seem very excessively on point, flavor-wise. Nicol Bolas, eat your heart out!
what a cool interaction, and speaking of cool interactions, have you tried to use The Everflowing Well + Mysterious Tome to transform cards with 2 mana? I use those cards to flip an Azor's Gateway in comander, and I think you could do it with battles in standar or explorer
The cheeky adventure synergy with the Whale is cute, but with all the targeted removal you're already running, I think those slots would be better served with Depopulates, especially in BO1.
Hey Seth, why dont you guys sell any of Adriano’s artwork on playmats and such? I dont like the Scoops stuff but I’ve love some of Adriano’s stuff over the years
I threw a blue black deck together with this interaction right after your short. I have had so many scoops after they kill the bat god 1 time and it comes back.
am i misunderstanding somthing... in the graveyard it wont be a creature it would be a batle this doesnt make sense. this doesnt work like this please some one help me what am i missing shouldnt it be a battle in the grave yard not the creature side?
It doesn't care that it's a battle in the graveyard. When it was in it's creature form, it had the god's abilities. One of those abilities is that when it gets sent to the graveyard, it returns transformed. So, it only cares about itself in this case, not it's type. So it enters the battlefield transformed, and can use it's transformed ability again.
It being a battle in the graveyard is exactly why it works.. The "Aclazotz" dies, and goes to the graveyard, triggering the death trigger. In the graveyard, it is Invasion of Amonkhet. Then the Aclazotz death trigger returns Invasion of Amonkhet to the battlefield transformed.
I think it's because both cards reference transforming, but once Amonkhet leaves the battlefield it sees itself as Amonkhet and so transforms into the creature which copies creatures in graveyards
Lazotep Convert cannot exist in the graveyard because it's on the backside. So Lazotep isn't returning to the battlefield transformed, Invasion of Amonkhet is.
The combo is a little less robust than samwise cat food, since it's a trigger rather than activated they can deal with pieces in response before the god is back in play, where with samwise cat food everything is actrivated so as long as you have extra food you're good tro respond to their removal. Of course being in standard rather than historic is a big bonus here
What about using the gods as a deliberate removal sponge to waste the opponents removal and use the gods as ramp into powerful finishers like breach the multiverse, or etali. If the gods stay on the board, they hurt yah, abs if they die, they ramp you into huge threats.
You're dedicating a lot of your deck to achieve this combo and hope that your 7/7 etali isn't too late to achieve anything. Combos like this are best when you go all in, and as Seth was saying, the combo pieces are real threats in themselves so you're not just hoping you achieve the dream before your opponent kills you. It's like putting a 1 of Ulamg into any historic deck. Yeah sure it's one of the biggest threats, but it waters down your deck, and how is that fun?
Would running Render Inert be better than using removal on flying blockers and having a flyer? Geniuine question cause it seems good enough. Sideboard maybe?
I've been running it for a few days now and standard has a ton of answers to this combo. Dinos have the 2 mana exile from the palientologist, 5c Atraxa has leyline binding (and they ALWAYS have it in hand. Seth was lucky in game 1), black has the graveyard trespasser, and mono red just smash face before you can do anything. A lot of the success I was having with this deck came from people not knowing what I was doing until it was too late. Cat's out of the bag now :D
Been running this combo in a totally different shell for the last few days (sorry if maybe that's how your opponent knew :D ), using dig and filters with the Tunnel-Grinder, and render inert to easily flip the amnokhet. Bitter Triumph is also a staple for decks where you need to put something in your hand into the yard, while also taking down a threat! I've had turn 4-5 wins with perfect hands, and others that have taken a little longer. It's a fun meme deck :D There's also one more creature that we've had in standard for over a year with the same ability as the God's death transform. Edgar Markov. He has one advantage over the Gods, he doesn't return tapped. He's worth running for a different flavour, or if you don't have enough wilds for the Gods!
In alchemy and historic on arena Orcish Bowmasters was changed to not trigger when entering the battlefield, this change is only for those formats. Scam is the name for blinking/reanimating (with a card like Undying Malice) any of the Modern Horizons 2 evoke incarnations (particularly Grief) so you get the ETB ability 2+ times and the creature while spending only 1 mana.
why magic became so boring? is there high competition on from other card games and they thought that bringing up overpowered creatures and infinite combos would attract more players to the game?
Against the gods
godds
Brilliant 😂
Dang it; I wanted to make that joke!
Out. Now
The funny thing is you're like 6 years late to the joke, he named an against the odds back in back in hour of devastation standard that
During the last game, you missed an earlier win. Flip the Invasion, have it enter as a copy of the god, then it dies to legend rule. You don't need a sac outlet.
He even missed that twice in the same game
Oops! Good call!
yes, at around the 31 minute mark, he could have just Obscura Charm'd Elias to the battlefield, flip Invasion into Aclazotz and just legend rule away to win it instead of cloning a Loran.
Came to look for this comment. I was also pretty sure that was a valid line.
Laguna Beach has to be one of my favorite mispronunciations in quite a while
Yeah, I was like, "Laguna Beach? Whaaaa?" 😂
I'm a big fan of "hidden stirrings", but hard to beat "shadowsphere".
So many classics. I’m still partial to Bonded Courier.
I was dying. I need to find something to run it in now so that I can call it that every time.
@@JordanPridgen super fun in the rebound/adventure deck with blue Oxalan god
Wow, I learned TWO things from this, that you can rebound an adventure into the creature, AND how Lazotep Convert copying an Ixalan God returns as itself and not the opposite side of the card.
Also really love how this just turns into a grindy midrange deck when the combo doesn't come together. Great video!
You could also use Edgar instead of a god.
Interestingly, this invasion of amonkhet trick already existed in standard with Edgar, Charmed Groom // Edgar Markov's Coffin. The thing that makes the combo work is the new free sac outlet in Bart
This whole set has been about the uncommons. Lattice fling combo, Appraiser getting a full on ban as an uncommon and now Bart being the missing piece in an infinite combo.
In this case you don't even need Bart because you can sac with the legend rule.
The rebound combo reminds me of the old brain jar modern deck before the change to split cards mana value I love it
Ha, yeah, it is sort of similar.
I only watch Seth to see what I'll be playing against this week
Honestly you're not wrong
Lmao I watch Seth to see if there's anything cool/jank I can play this week so hopefully I don't run into you!
as a current standard player, I try not to let Invasion of Amonkhet resolve/flip even if I don't know the exact gameplan because there will always be some shenanigans that i regret letting through.
Wow a current standard player. Those exist?
@@ghostguin1398there are dozens of us!
I think the black two mana removal spell would be better in this deck. It let's you discard, which this deck wants to do.
"Horned loch whale's spell side is Laguna Beach" is my fave seth card name yet.
17:54 Am I missing something? You could've played Pakpa to block Kumano before you surrendered and if you're lucky, maybe they hit lands rather than gas allowing you to get Acla down for a better blocking situation. Sure, any removal ends you but there was a chance there.
He could've also just destroyed the faces with charm. I don't know why he didn't make them have it, they were in too deck mode
Ah I see, playing the creature gives him a flipped battle next turn if he survived and is the better play than charming
Scooping to the mono red deck there didn't make sense
If he played Pakpa to block Kumano, Kumano would've died and he would've been pinged for 1 because of the Monster role token attached to it. There was no chance.
@@Anthaang No, the role given by monstrous rage is a monster role which doesn't ping. It buffs and gives trample
I would NEVER think this interaction works that way.
For real
One of the funny interactions with the transform rules is if they ever print a clone creature with a blank second face, it would function and be able to transform.
There is also a black spell that removes counters too works very well with amonkhet
Render Inert
at 38:39 with lazotep convert as a copy of aclazots on the battlefield and an Elas il-kor, with a 2nd lazotep convert coming into play couldn't you perpetually legend rule the aclazots to combo off without needing Bartoleme?
More like Against the (G)Odds...am I right? huh? huh? Sorry, I'll see myself out.
Throwing Ratadrabik in here would be ridiculous, especially if you add in the white god. Not necessary for you to win with the deck, but it would be fun
How many times do you think an Arena player encounters a niche interaction like this and assumes someone is exploiting a new bug?
why don't you play bitter triumph in that deck?
It's not only removal, it also allows you to place your combo pieces conveniently where you need it - in the graveyard.
Also you can do the same thing with the black and white Edgar form VOW. That one is easier to get in the grave, when you have it on the battlefield (since you can sac the artifact as well). + he provides blockers (with Lifelink!) for days
30:46 everything was on the board for the win there. Charm back the Il-Kor, attack the battle, copy Aclazotz, legend rule, repeat, win.
This new set was a nightmare for Seth's pronunciation. I find it hilarious he can pronounce "Ojer Pakpatiq" right but calls Kaito "Suzuki". Never change, Seth.
Hope Arena gets this shit loop fixed. 😊😊😊😊😊😊
This is such a cool and unique combo
Clay Fried Bicks had me dying 34:03
0:00 video starts
This week and last week were goofy decks, but they didn’t quite feel like against the odds. Silly combos are goid fun, but what happened to playing bad cards?
For a 3.5 piece combo it went off surprisingly often. It's a pretty cool deck!
I do wonder if there's something you could do to make this a commander deck hmmmmm
Okay funny story.
I’ve been running Aclazotz/Invasion of Amonkhet in a deck together, and I tried this in a game with it but when they killed the flipped Invasion it didn’t trigger to return to the battlefield??? I just assumed I was wrong and the combo just didn’t work, but seeing this video I’m assuming they must’ve used exile removal and I just didn’t realize it 🤔
Hey Seth. I just saw the deck tech and was wondering if you tried Mirrorhall Mimic in this deck. It does flip, so 6ou could copy Aclozotz and flip it to start copying one of their creatures?
this should be more consistent now that Tinybones Joins Up has been released
Looks at the thumbnail: “No infinite Life total? Wait, I think you uploaded some lists that fix that problem”
I swear i saw this youtube title on cover of my isekai trash fantasy light noval. Seth is secrectly weeb confirmed.
this ish got me day 1 of release and i’ve not seen it since. op spammed karn so i thought it was crim’s secret smurf account.
Built a deck inspired by this that uses altar of dementia instead, sure its historic instead of standard but it gets decent win rates I find
17.42 cut down's actually pretty bad against monastery swiftspear
This combo still confuses me. Why doesn't the invasion enter as invasion with 4 counters?
It enters transformed... due to the death trigger on the Gods. They die and return transformed. Aka they return as the backside, and the backside of Invasion of Amonkhet is Lazotep Convert, which enters the battlefield and copies the god again.
It enters already transformed because of the wording on the gods, so we avoid the front side all together.
Like just block the one attacking the battle and this entire deck stops working. Like wtf
Haha I also have cards that I praise, but that definetly sees akward situations. Like 'Tolarian Contempt' from MAT. It can be really powerful, because it can potentially delay your opponents card draws, if they decide to put the creatures on top of their deck. If they don't, then fine. But it can also be really akward with creatures that has really strong ETB triggers like Atraxa and Etali for instance 😂
I have used 'Tolarian Contempt' in a mono blue tempo/control deck before, and in that deck it went pretty well. Really frustrated my opponents I think (which does makes me feel bad. Why I rarely play control), because I had enough countering spells to potentially be able to counter the creatures when they were about to enter the battlefield again.
So this is where that card is good. If you didn't get to counter several of your opponents creatures earlier in the game, then you can use 'Tolarian Contempt' to do it at a later turn, when they'd re-cast their creatures. Like you'd do with something like 'Fading Hope'.
Now, I don't usually play these kinds of decks very often, since I really hate playing against them myself 😅 So I have tried the card out in a mono blue midrange deck. But for that it's not really that good, because you won't have enough countering spells to back you up. In a control deck, the Tolarian Contempt and countering spells are having eachothers backs in a way, which is actually kind of cool 😊
Game 2, why not Get Lost the Smithy's? No flame, trying to learn.
Lagoon Breach 👎Laguna Beach 👍
Deck needs render inert so we can flip th invasion without needing to deploy a creature
Invading Amonkhet to exploit a loophole in the rules and win on the spot with infinitely sacrificed zombie gods does seem very excessively on point, flavor-wise. Nicol Bolas, eat your heart out!
I have a blue black artifacts list I’m D1 with right now :)
what a cool interaction, and speaking of cool interactions, have you tried to use The Everflowing Well + Mysterious Tome to transform cards with 2 mana? I use those cards to flip an Azor's Gateway in comander, and I think you could do it with battles in standar or explorer
The cheeky adventure synergy with the Whale is cute, but with all the targeted removal you're already running, I think those slots would be better served with Depopulates, especially in BO1.
Hey Seth, why dont you guys sell any of Adriano’s artwork on playmats and such? I dont like the Scoops stuff but I’ve love some of Adriano’s stuff over the years
Poor Crim, a full Espervdeck and still no Void Rend.
khans of tarkir is on arena now, I would love to see a return of 34 siege rhino
looks cooler than broodscale and rosie but still gotta click through it
IVE BEEN SAYING ELAS IL KOR WRONG????? I THOUGHT IT WAS ELIAS IL KOR-
I'm sorry when did he play with the Green God? what video was that?
I threw a blue black deck together with this interaction right after your short. I have had so many scoops after they kill the bat god 1 time and it comes back.
Damn I just played a similar deck this morning, I was hoping no one else had the same idea at least for a bit, now it's gonna be everywhere :/
"Laguna Beach" my favorite beach in California hahaha!
You could just legend rule the black god in the last game you didnt need the sac outlet
Would this be doable in Grixis where the Red god deals damage equal to its power? Or would it have to be expanded into 4C no Green?
Should be function too if I copy a Rona in the Graveyard and activate the transform ability?
Not to go infinite of course, but to get an Invasion back?
No fucking way Seth got the names of the gods right
Why does no one block the attack on the battle? Weird
the video would have been great had it been Bo3...
Seth wins a game
"AGAINST THE BEST DECK IN THE FORMAT" 😂
Manual triggers are must have in this deck, otherwise you won't win.
am i misunderstanding somthing... in the graveyard it wont be a creature it would be a batle this doesnt make sense. this doesnt work like this please some one help me what am i missing shouldnt it be a battle in the grave yard not the creature side?
It doesn't care that it's a battle in the graveyard. When it was in it's creature form, it had the god's abilities. One of those abilities is that when it gets sent to the graveyard, it returns transformed. So, it only cares about itself in this case, not it's type. So it enters the battlefield transformed, and can use it's transformed ability again.
It being a battle in the graveyard is exactly why it works..
The "Aclazotz" dies, and goes to the graveyard, triggering the death trigger. In the graveyard, it is Invasion of Amonkhet. Then the Aclazotz death trigger returns Invasion of Amonkhet to the battlefield transformed.
This is pretty funny with Ratadrabik
Can someone explain to me why the god copies don't come back as battles when they die? That's what they should be when you flip them.
I think it's because both cards reference transforming, but once Amonkhet leaves the battlefield it sees itself as Amonkhet and so transforms into the creature which copies creatures in graveyards
Lazotep Convert cannot exist in the graveyard because it's on the backside. So Lazotep isn't returning to the battlefield transformed, Invasion of Amonkhet is.
Is there a reason you say lagoona beach?
The combo is a little less robust than samwise cat food, since it's a trigger rather than activated they can deal with pieces in response before the god is back in play, where with samwise cat food everything is actrivated so as long as you have extra food you're good tro respond to their removal. Of course being in standard rather than historic is a big bonus here
What about using the gods as a deliberate removal sponge to waste the opponents removal and use the gods as ramp into powerful finishers like breach the multiverse, or etali. If the gods stay on the board, they hurt yah, abs if they die, they ramp you into huge threats.
You're dedicating a lot of your deck to achieve this combo and hope that your 7/7 etali isn't too late to achieve anything. Combos like this are best when you go all in, and as Seth was saying, the combo pieces are real threats in themselves so you're not just hoping you achieve the dream before your opponent kills you.
It's like putting a 1 of Ulamg into any historic deck. Yeah sure it's one of the biggest threats, but it waters down your deck, and how is that fun?
Lina casts Laguna Blade and summons a... blue whale!?
Would running Render Inert be better than using removal on flying blockers and having a flyer? Geniuine question cause it seems good enough. Sideboard maybe?
I considered adding Render Inert, didn't quite make the cut, but I think it's close.
This is a really silly rules interaction, I love it. XD
Against the Godds
Wow your version is so much better built than mine, nice job!
Best of 1 is extremely lame.
What do you think is the strongest deck with the ahmonket alclazots interaction right now?
This combo deck looks very fun, but prone to whiff.
I've been running it for a few days now and standard has a ton of answers to this combo. Dinos have the 2 mana exile from the palientologist, 5c Atraxa has leyline binding (and they ALWAYS have it in hand. Seth was lucky in game 1), black has the graveyard trespasser, and mono red just smash face before you can do anything. A lot of the success I was having with this deck came from people not knowing what I was doing until it was too late. Cat's out of the bag now :D
So, its esper legends, but based...
I like
This looks super fun, thanks for the video
Aye, were blood brothers!
The best contents of MtgGoldfish are: Against the Odds and Much Abrew about Nothing. All by Seth!!!!!! 👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks!
Use Blue God with Vesuvan Duplimancy
Easy to disrupt sadly
That was super sweet.
Lagoona beach 😂
“Clay fried bicks” lol
laguna beach, I see you seth
Lagoona beach is hilarious 😂
It's tough to be a God!
This is a pretty cool Esper Legends deck.
Thanks!
Snooper sneaky.
Was hoping to see you try out some Timeless if you have any ideas.
He was playing a bunch on stream yesterday, so I'm sure some stuff is coming.
@@sethrosson9719 poggies
you should play timeless! the new format in arena
Oh don't worry, I have been. It's been a blast! Videos coming soon :)
Time to teach some Zoomers a thing or two!
Been running this combo in a totally different shell for the last few days (sorry if maybe that's how your opponent knew :D ), using dig and filters with the Tunnel-Grinder, and render inert to easily flip the amnokhet. Bitter Triumph is also a staple for decks where you need to put something in your hand into the yard, while also taking down a threat! I've had turn 4-5 wins with perfect hands, and others that have taken a little longer. It's a fun meme deck :D
There's also one more creature that we've had in standard for over a year with the same ability as the God's death transform. Edgar Markov. He has one advantage over the Gods, he doesn't return tapped. He's worth running for a different flavour, or if you don't have enough wilds for the Gods!
A lot of mistakes, if you want to broadcast you should practice more, I used to like the content, but not lately. 💁♂💁♂
I was so interested to watch, but his voice is actually giving me a headache. Seemed like an interested deck though.
No more BO3? That's a shame
Why do people say Bowmaster was weakened? Online? In real life? And what is scam?
In alchemy and historic on arena Orcish Bowmasters was changed to not trigger when entering the battlefield, this change is only for those formats. Scam is the name for blinking/reanimating (with a card like Undying Malice) any of the Modern Horizons 2 evoke incarnations (particularly Grief) so you get the ETB ability 2+ times and the creature while spending only 1 mana.
add jesus pls
He's everywhere, therefore, He is already added.
@@thelunchlady8276 touché
why magic became so boring? is there high competition on from other card games and they thought that bringing up overpowered creatures and infinite combos would attract more players to the game?
But seth, there were 6 Gods in Lost Caverns of Ixalan!
"Looks like the gods favor me tonight, acadian." A line from The Rock's Scorpion King that I've never been able to forget. 🪨🦂👑