The Greediest Deck in Outlaws of Thunder Junction Standard | Against the Odds
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- What are the odds of winning by giving our opponent a Greed's Gambit and watching it slowly eat away their desire and ability to win? Let's find out!
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"The problem with Demonic Pact is that our opponents don't suffer."
LMAO never change Seth!
"The joy is in the suffering!"
Hey he got the demons part
I still think Seth should make a video on his origin story. It really puts all of this into context.
as a pox player, I can relate lol
Reminder that this is from the preview event where participants aren't supposed to concede, so prolonging the suffering is somehow worse here.
If you gave greed to your opponent, then blinked it to its owners control, you’d get all the positive triggers, and the opponent would get all the negative ones!
The moment I saw this card, I knew it would be on Against the Odds. However, I'm honestly surprised to see it with the red splash rather than a white splash for Elesh Mom to try and double up it's ETB. Expensive, yes. Glorious, also yes.
What is Elesh Mom
@@cuddlequeen3225 Elesh Norn Mother of Machines. the issue is you need a 5 CMC white card to double a trigger. that tends to take more time and you don't really have that luxury. in Commander maybe, but in standard, everything is low CMC
@@neminem1203 Yep because in most cases you're dead before you can even bring it out unless you have serious ramp using green but even then...against aggro decks or anything with heavy creature removal it fails miserably
I really appreciate that you take the time to record early access videos separate from your early access stream so that we aren’t punished by watching the stream only to be stuck with “reruns” for the next week. Great content as always thank you thank thank you
The random Tool reference on priest of the schism made my day
big same i said out loud TOOL REFERENCE! as soon as i heard it lol
I forgot which video, butSeth plays Preacher of the Schism and everytime it attacks he hums the bass line lmao
I’d say Seth entering his villain era, but I’m pretty sure he’s just always been a villain 😂😈
A man can only hope harmless offering gets reprinted in this standard…
Maybe in Duskmourne, next horror set?
Try fateful handoff from browar
NOOOOOO GOD NO
We've got a better harmless offering 😅 fateful hand off.... 4 mana black card that draws cards equal to the mana cost of the card you donate them so with greed's gambit you'd draw. 4.
fateful handoff can only target a creature or artifact@@danielromaniv6623
45:43 Every Dominarian after the sylex blast
Someone played this against me in Sealed yesterday, the absolute madman. It was awful, but mad respect.
Jim Davis found out halfway through his brew around greeds gambit that being able to bounce it back once you've given it to them to get the big leaves the battlefield trigger against them. Is there any room for bounce? Could also get extra morphs our of falcon as well.
might as well include otawara. i dont think any other bounce spell is worth it though
@alaraplatt8104 that's how Jim ended up doing it, but by the end of his matches he said he'd wish he'd leaned into it a bit, maybe a few extra slots, not sure what beyond otiwara tho
IMO the best thing to do would be to add in This Town Ain't Big Enough. It drops its cost down to 1U if you target something you control and targets two things, making it perfect for bouncing your Falcon and the Greed's Demise.
@@quintonhoffert6526 good call
Just replying to say that I tried the deck out, taking out all the Archfiends for This Town Ain't Big Enough. It does, in fact, lead to blowouts if you're not playing against people with countermagic. My opponent had pretty strong token generation from two Preachers of the Schism and it didn't matter. EoT discard and sac a creature into lose 6, discard 3 and sac three creatures into then re-dropping Greed's Gambit and gaining 6, drawing 3 and making 3 dudes is basically impossible for your opponent to come back from. They either have to have countermagic or the game completely turns around, and then you get to still give back the Gambit the next turn.
agree, the moment you played the island with two torch in hand I knew it was over
Hell yeah! I’ve been wanting to greed’s gambit -> Rakdos Joins Up, reanimating Yargle and Multani, sacrifing it EoT to deal 20. This is equally sweet.
Some extra bounce spells for the gambit when it’s on your opponent’s side seem sweet as well. Machine Over Matter (BRO) only costs a blue with falcon in play.
Respect that first opponent for sitting through that and being seemingly a good sport about it lol
he is also another youtuber
It's early access, WoTC gets angry at creators if they scoop early
@@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle oh I had assumed this footage was from after early access and didn’t check the names that’s my bad
I've just plaid against Esper version of this deck, I was playing Mono U Tempo Ninjas (returning to Magic after 2 years and collecting the wildcards), they searched my hand and removed 2 Fading Hopes (sorry don't remember the name of the card, was some Orzhov spell I think), put Greed's Gambit on turn 4, wiped my board once. Yet I managed to reduce their life to 9 and I had Machine over matter in my hand. They use second option of Insatiable Avarice (pay 3 life, draw 3 cards) and when the life condition resolves I return them the Gambit. BOOM - 6. One of the best moments I ha in Magic ever xD
Seth here's a jank combo for standard, Rakdos joins up and yargle in the graveyard to deal 20 damage. You can even show off the new spree entomb!!!
im glad this deck plays cards with the words Greed, Avarice, and Coveted all in the name
18:07 play greeds gambit, draw into untap, give 2. Even if its not guaranteed its still a higher chance to win than the other way
Greeds gambit can work well with sac decks, death decks, token decks, swap/exchange decks, and haste damage decks.
This comment sounds like it was written by AI lol
Beautiful Tool reference.
Demonic Pact you also kinda have to wait until its last mode to Harmless Offer it. Greed's Gambit you can Harmless Offer right away.
2:03 Ah, the chaotic evil approach. I approve
How would this deck feel with a few "This town ain't big enough"'s allowing you to bounce the Gambit and the Falcon back to hand (and also triggering that dreadful "leaves the battlefield" effect). Plus its instant speed, so you can cast it on opponents end step in response to the Greed trigger for double dipping delight. But is that going too hard on the meme?
I'm playing it right now. It works very, very well. I actually won a game I had no business winning against planeswalker control by bouncing both my opponent's Jace and the Greed's Gambit to force him to discard the Jace before it could mill me out. I also went from a low of 3 life back up to 19 in that same game while reducing my opponent from 29 to -5 over the course of 4 very lucky turns. Getting to turn one Greed's Gambit into multiple even if I never draw the other copies is absurd, and wrathing the opponent's board ruins even token-based strategies. Mostly the deck loses hardest to early game aggression that kills you before you can drop the Greed's Gambit. Once you put it down, the positive attrition it generates usually gives you time to stabilize, but against mono-Red or other aggressive decks it can be hard to make it to turn 4 if you're on the draw.
Just saw CovertGoBlue's video where you played this deck! Caught me by surprise and I'm sure his deck caught you by surprise lol
A curse deck with extra steps. I love it.
Just do this one again, so fun! 😃
Poor Jim Davis. Getting Dumpstered every time you play him lol
You are a madman, and it's great
well, know i need to make yet ANOTHER Yarok deck, with this little sweet combo in it.
Probably my favorite card of the new set!
Super fun content
Nice TOOL reference there, Seth.
Literally just played against the deck and have to say, I'm impressed it works at all 😂
OHHHHH Seth made a Tool reference I got it!!!
Real step up in the editing this video
I wonder if this will make Pact/Offering semi-competitive in Modern. Both Gambit and Pact draw you cards immediately if you don't have your pieces, adding Hawk to the deck give you 8 copies of ways to give permanents to your opponent, and both of them are artifacts that you can desperation sac if you need to
Does anyone know where I can get that deck list that Brian kiblar played?
Could you use a Minimus Containment on it and negate the negative effects?
37:20 It wouldn’t have actually mattered, since Gisa triggers as soon as targeting happens, there’s no window to respond before her ability triggers.
So laughing jack is really good....in commander idk about standard but in commander it's absolutely beautiful...
Any suggestion for budget brews in the new format? A bit bored of convoke
We have 3 exchange control spells in standard right now.
Truly a golden Era
Woah Seth NAILED the pronunciation on Insatiable Avarice.
So now we have 8 "cats" and 8 "pacts" for Pioneer Cat Pact? Seems like a fun thing to put in a Grixis control shell.
Mr. Olive likes to torment his opponent😂 Love it😂
That legendvd deck is a lot sweeter than you think, that counter spell is intended to use the copy mode instead. Making a copy of the karnstuck maker. That then can be copied every turn by the copy token permanent. sorry but i dont know the names.
reminds me of the old illusions of grandeur donate decks.
I had such a drastically different idea for a deck to make the gambit work, but this is some kinda masterpiece, at least until 1 person plays enchantment removal. The card discourages its own removal though since it creates a huge downside
Almost as greedy as the average Seth commander play
I didn't expect Seth to come out as a fan of torture.
You obviously don't remember the days of mono red prison on the channel he's always loved torturing his opponents
@@titanaddict25 I remember, but he was so blunt about it in this video.
@MTGGoldfish Seth for the next against the odds, you should do Obeka + Faithbound Judge! Might be an ambitious four color deck since the disturb cost is expensive and you need it in the graveyard with Obeka out and probably need her to be unblockable but that’s the against the odds dream
How about a janky against the odds style deck in standard with the fall of lord konda (gain control of all permanents you own) and covetous falcon to give all permanents in response to the saga’s trigger. It would draw a card per permanent (including land) but it’s very weak to tidebinder haha.
Where did the mage come from in duelist of the mind?
You also never used Insatiable Avarice as a Vampiric Tutor to draw the card that turn with a Blood token or drawing from Coveted Falcon or Preacher
Seth acarice tutor should be case of suspect skeleton and diabolic intent.... The case makes a skeleton and intent reauires that you sac a creature to search your library and then that will trigger the case which then will also let you search your library
1 card should be 2 cards that you need both to be able to use?
Can you do skeleton tribal in historic?
Can we get a nya legends against the odds with Annie joins up?
I feel like beseech the mirror would have been better than avarice, since it would be a way to kill a value gambit while getting another combo piece.
I wanted to see your reaction to CGB's deck but it looks like the match didn't make it into the video
Red... and no Sol Kanar?
oh Seth, you have to go Jankier, my friend.
I'm messing around with a Dimir version because I really found no reason to add a third color, really.
Only one Otawara to bounce the Gambits? Like, its one thing to stick your opponent with a Gambit trigger every end step, but plenty of decks can still easily win from under that. But making them sac 3 creatures, lose 6 life, and discard 3 cards in their draw step? That's basically GG against almost anything.
I'm surprised that shifting grift isn't on there, at least as a one of
Should have started with the clip of Gordon Gecko saying Greed is good. 😂
against the odds yayyy
2:20 Misery is on the menu?
The real BM is taking it back with the bird, then killing your opponent
Greed's Gambit seems better than Swordpoint Diplomacy in the Black Burn deck. It create's evasive flyers and refills your hand. You might even Soulspike your opponent to death before having to discard
I really wish Coveted Falcon had been red!
I'm surprised you're not playing some number of Tishana's Tidebinder in this deck as a backup way of dealing with the Greed.
Play Greed turn 4, turn 5 the Tidebinder out and stifle the trigger isn't an awful Plan B instead of giving it to your opponent
That's not a bad idea but I think it works better for a deck that uses Greed's Gambit to advance a creature-based strategy rather than having it as an attrition engine. This style, however, really benefits from This Town Ain't Big Enough to bounce your Raven and the Greed's Gambit and hit your opponent with the big "leaves the battlefield" trigger.
The real Greed's Gambit is keeping that hand in game 3
when i think about it that doing crimes is just playing magic kinda makes a lot of sense. like the entire flavor behind the game is that you are a wizard that is fighting another wizard by summoning armies or attacking the mind. yo kinda should expect that everything you do in a fight is not abiding by the law
I really want this to be competitive because I want this to be my standard deck but I don't think it will touch my tier 2 baby reanimator
18:09 should have played greeds gambit to draw and get an untapped land to give them both
Thunder Cougar Falcon Bird
Had someone use this against me in draft. It was a terrible idea on their end
Crap thats why I fought this deck 3 times in a row. Really sucks that theres a combo that sacrifices the whole field and discards your entire hand
Dude played LegenVD and Jim Davis and barely mentioned it.
I was expecting you to go to zero basics for the ultimate greedy mana base.
Every creature is a dork
I don’t understand why these decks don’t play this town ain’t big enough
Where’s the covertgoblue match saffron
Stealing lands is not a crime. That's just manifest destiny.
Yeet
Did you seriously never run into an opponent with enchantment removal?
You missed the opportunity to name the video "An offer you can't refuse", even better if you have An Offer You Can't Refuse in your deck
Beseech the Mirror might be better than Avarice, since it can just straight up put Gambit onto the battlefield by sacrifing a blood or something.
It can't disguise Falcon and this deck doesn't have a lot of Bargain fodder
Where’s Fateful Handoff??
Doesn't work with greed's gambit
Artifacts/creatures
it only works on artifacts and creatures unfortunately. probably wasnt worth it for just the archfiend
@@zyanmurphy7478 But Archfiend is the backup plan tho
Unsurprisingly, commiting crimes is proving to be one of the most lazy and uninspired mechanics ever. Between it and sheoldred, those cards that synergize with >checks notes< playing the game normally can make any match feels tired pretty fast
At 21:14, why not give your opponent one of the tapped lands you used to 'flip the bird' as well as the Greed's Gambit?
You'd draw an extra card, and you can use the bird's attack trigger to get it back before their turn :)
This has just been driving me nuts, because SaffronOlive isn't the only MTGA UA-camr mispronouncing "rakish." It's pronounced "ray-kish," not "raw-kish." The root word is "rake." Yes, like the garden tool, though the actual meaning is very different; English is weird.
I'm well aware of the futility of trying to correct his pronunciation. I just needed to get this out of my system after days of hearing Seth, Crim, and CGB mispronounce it. I'm just going to go hide in the corner and rock myself into a stupor now; hopefully the bad pronunciation won't get me there. :P
Lol it's probably a side effect of saying 'rakdos' for years at this point. I feel you on the rake pronunciation though
Jesus says you have a demonic avatar and I will not watch tour episode because of that. Change avatars or me not watch you anymore by Jesus orders.
Every time you make some b******* magic deck.I get a little upset because I know that I'm gonna have to play against it.And I don't have the tech to deal with this shit
38:35
"Sorry, Jimbo but I'm sending you to the shadow realm."
why didnt you show the game you lost to Covertblue?
I have to ask, would you like a karnstruct control standard deck? You may need to improve it from my shell but it works pretty well right now.
9:21 - Is that the subtlest TOOL reference of all time?