Nietzsche on Democritus & Conclusion (Part 8 of 8)

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    Philosophy in the Tragic Age of the Greeks is one of the more obscure texts in Friedrich Nietzsche’s corpus. There are many good reasons for this: it is unfinished, and ends abruptly; it was never published; and it concerns subject matter that is not as immediately accessible as Nietzsche’s more popular writings. You will not find his major concepts in this work - such as the will to power, or the critique of metaphysics - except insofar as those ideas appear in the background, inchoate, unnamed… not yet fully formed. In Nietzsche’s interpretation of the Pre-Platonic philosophers of Ancient Greece, we find the starting place for his later philosophical career. The inspiration for many of those great ideas, can arguably be found in his exegesis of these extraordinary figures from the Hellenic world, from the 6th to the 4th century BC. In this series we’ll consider Nietzsche’s view of Thales, Anaximander, Heraclitus, Parmenides, Anaxagoras, Empedocles & Democritus.

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  • @zerotwo7319
    @zerotwo7319 3 місяці тому +14

    I love the part were democritus says: It's atom time. Everyone shouted at the bookstore.

  • @illegallawyer
    @illegallawyer 3 місяці тому +8

    Philosophy in the Tragic Age of the Greeks should be required reading for anyone who identifies as "Western."

  • @ggrthemostgodless8713
    @ggrthemostgodless8713 3 місяці тому +5

    Great 8 part list. Enjoyed it, some of them I watched twice.

  • @markmartin2292
    @markmartin2292 3 місяці тому +7

    You do a valuable service. Thank you

  • @austinmackell9286
    @austinmackell9286 3 місяці тому +4

    The idea of 'fire' atoms, or energetic, fast moving atoms, between the heavier slower moving atoms, and this producing animation, is not that far off the idea of electrons, jumping from atomic nucleus to atomic nucleus, creating electric currents, and/or movement in animal bodies.
    And the idea of firey energetic 'thought' atoms being the fastest thing in existence is only a few transformations from the idea of the speed of light being the "speed of information" as in contemporary physics

  • @leesnyder9144
    @leesnyder9144 3 місяці тому +5

    the picture of Democritus you have of him smiling reminds me of Richard Feynman another smiling philosopher.

    • @JoaoLucas________
      @JoaoLucas________ 3 місяці тому +2

      Feynman tinha um desgosto ds Filosofia

    • @leesnyder9144
      @leesnyder9144 23 дні тому

      @@JoaoLucas________ I remember reading about arguments he had with coworkers who did not draw a line between physics and metaphysics. They thought they were approaching God in their search for truth.

  • @PinoSantilli-hp5qq
    @PinoSantilli-hp5qq 3 місяці тому +1

    THE great thing is that these actually thought of the world as UNDERSTANBLE through reason and experiment. And that is a big step.

  • @cheri238
    @cheri238 3 місяці тому

    HERACLITUS is my favorite.
    Actually, all count in forum or the other .
    "Powerlands" is an important documentary for today. Indigenous cultures .
    Thank you again. I am working hard to get through all of your videos.
    🙏❤️🌎🌿🕊🎵🎶🎵

  • @danielpierce88
    @danielpierce88 3 місяці тому

    Loved these, tyvm. Wish Xenophanes got some love too. Both he and Heraclitus are my favourite pre-Socratic philosophers

  • @chadefallstar
    @chadefallstar 3 місяці тому

    That was great. Thanks so much

  • @joelshapiro3657
    @joelshapiro3657 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @user-uw7nd9se3u
    @user-uw7nd9se3u 3 місяці тому +1

    The pre-plutonic philosophers have a lot of similarities as the Chinese philosophers of the same age.

  • @christopherellis2663
    @christopherellis2663 3 місяці тому +2

    Heraclitus is my man 😊

    • @cheri238
      @cheri238 3 місяці тому

      Heraclitus is mine, also. 😊

  • @suneethamay3615
    @suneethamay3615 3 місяці тому

    Democracy all about
    made for the people made by the people
    and ruled by the people Power of the majority is always work for the all the people.

  • @Animalis_Mundana
    @Animalis_Mundana 3 місяці тому

    Funny how there's "motion" in unconscious dream states or on a static screen/monitor, "virtual". But is there any true movement? Do you need your eyes to see dream characters or objects that appear "out there" and as other? There's first person linear perspective, color, solidity, the appearance of space and causality. Yet we know there's no actual motion, there's barely ego. Do you have a sense of self or an identity when you dream? And yes, dreams are just as real as consensus reality and I'd even say natural. Are they not but another state of consciousness/awareness? I realize some people begin their analysis with phenomena and "believe what they see" as if the substratum of all experience, existence itself isn't consciousness. Maya, ma and ya, ma(measure), ya (that which can be) also means to give form, illusion, magic, appearance, phenomena, sense perception. Even modern science understands the connection between measure and observe.

  • @bretrohde7300
    @bretrohde7300 3 місяці тому

    As far as a favorite, much like you, though I don’t really jibe with his (meta)physics, I’d have to say Empedocles is the “coolest” of all the pre-Socratics. Anaximander probably comes closest to what I might consider a reasonable ontology, and his take seems to overlap quite a bit with Buddhist thinking, at least in that the apeiron seems not unlike nirvana, and his characterization of all phenomena resembles the Buddhist conception of their impermanence, insufficiency and corelessness.