I'm not sure the dev team actually exists. In my mind the whole thing was made by unpaid interns by copy-pasting stuff from other games (badly... but unpaid, so it's great value), management team who were really happy about not spending money on development cause interns are free, and marketing team who "built from the ground up"
@ikondrift I have a serious thought on that as well. When they did their inside look ajd showed the team, none of them looked like people you'd see at a race track or even know what a shock absorber is or where Spa is located. They just look like hipsters out of college that wanted a job in game design and this is where they could get in and start. Nothing about this game feels like it was made by racing enthusiasts hence "Car-P-G"
Oh that answer is simple see your problem is applying a little nuisance called "logic" see this "logic" makes you think that great games made by caring developers would be a good thing and profitable. However, the horror couldn't be farther from the truth. Microsoft has to pay these greedy devs for making games to play and with no ongoing monetization model, they may have to "gasp" make a sequel resulting in more wages being spent. We can't have money being siphoned away from our hard working investors can we? Plus closing Hi Fi rush devs means all profits from the game go directly to the publisher and those nasty devs don't get steal any of Microsofts well deserved and owed money. However, Forza doesn't require a lot of these "devs" and they can rely on unpaid AI work to do the heavy lifting with an ongoing monetization model. Meaning more hands in the pockets of investors, as God intended. Hard work isn't rewarded, it's exploited and then diminished so that the elite can profit off of ill gotten gains.
This is not the only developer who is failing; more and more companies are releasing games unfinished and expecting the user to pay for a game that they have lied about. Forza Motorsport is a shell of its former self. Forza Motorsport 6 was good, 7 is a flop, and 8 is a train wreck.
I bought this, being all excited. And bear in mind everything I say below is just my opinion. I was so horrendously disappointed. I still am. Forza Motorsport 4 was the last one I played and even going back to it now the differences are staggering. FM4 had a sense of reverence and excitement about cars. It had a nice, fun singleplayer mode with a sense of progression. The nice little touches like having Jeremy Clarkson voice presentations about certain vehicles and just the utter sense of class the game had was fantastic. Forza Motorsport 2023 is just... absolute shite. I'm sorry.
What pisses me off the most is that they have the audacity to sell dozens of DLCs despite the base game being unfinished. I mean Ginetta GT4 for 2,99€, they charge you for a fucking Ginetta, the most generic GT car ever, not a car pack or new track, but one single fucking GINETTA car from 2019 for 2,99€, wtf is this crap.
Yeah this is so disrespectful towards the consumer. Also what I find weird is how only limited cars upto a point are included in the car pass but after that none are.
I enjoy GT7 on my PS4, have no issue with PC port EXCEPT! the possibility of hackers ruining the sport mode experience... If this happens they must be ready to instantly isolate PC lobbies from PS lobbies.
@@Vixen1525 GT Sport was given an offline patch so it is preserved and you can still play 90% of the game now. This is much better than Ubisoft completely shutting The Crew 1.
I paid 100 bucks for the early release. The online was never fun no matter how hard i tried to get into it, controls are slow snd shitty on purpose. So many small and big bugs ruined it. I removed it from my steam account so id never get bored snd install it again.
It's the only motorsport sim on PC that has the ability to modify and tune your own ride. However, the AI still stink. Still break check at slow corners for no reason. And Online Racing lacks setting up your own races. The only hope for that would be the upcoming Assetta Corsa 2. However one didn't have car modifications.
GT7 was exactly the same !! There was a lack of content and even the grinding you had to do was tweaked as more of the game was added via updatess and patches. Forza motorsport just followed the trend that GT set.
I've played FM '23 since launch and a lot of my issue is the lack of transparency from the dev team and why they say things then immediately back track on something. Literally this last update they're hinted at a spectate mode for private lobbies in one of the dev blog posts iirc a week ago and then the update releases and nothing I mean nothing was brought up about it. What's even more funny is that anything that has been spoken about it was removed or left out from any patch notes so I guess it wasn't ready to be added... I do a lot of league races within forza and I can still say there is a lot of gripes that people still have with this game that should be a non factor issue 6 months into this game's cycle. I can't backtrack my tire selections on pit road, I can't add more fuel than I already have in my tank if I select the same or less fuel amounts, I have issues with the balancing inside certain classes, There are still issues with PC that are still crashing people's games, and there are countless amount of bugs that are problems elsewhere within different parts of this game. I think there's a semi-recent youtube video where a ex-dev of forza motorsports that was pretty damning for the whole cycle of this game, he went on about how his dev phase went and explained to the viewers that there's literally a specific amount of time which is about 18 months they can work on the game until they have to take a 6 month break from the dev group unless they're signed on for a full-time contract which is pretty rare from what they youtuber was saying but the problem is that policy is in effect company wide for Microsoft. My entire issue with that is how are we expecting the game to even have a chance of turning around the game's bug and issue ridden state when you got people working for a year and a half and having to leave for a half year to do other things and with almost no chance of returning? In my honest opinion this game was DOA when we started seeing some of the early play tests where they had the forza areo still modeled from FM5 with the whole "Built from the ground up mantra". I can only hope they continue working their asses off on it to make any money spent on it worth a while but with a lack of people on it we can only hope that this game hit rock bottom and is on it's way up. I think we need a lot more transparency, a lot more time which for both I don't know how either will be dealt with. I can see a way out because they are doing some better work with a lot of these patch notes that are fixing some of these issues but I think this game needs a overhaul and until that happens I don't see the expected amount of player's playing the game at the moment and even if a overhaul that is needed happens who knows is that'll add in new issues performance and over all game play wise.
I didn’t buy it at release. Waited till end of April 2024. I’ve played most of the Horizons, Motorsports and GTs. The current Motorsport feel rather boring for being a “new”, current gen only console game. Motorsport 7 was fantastic, fun, with plenty to do. The current Motorsport feels like a lot less game. I am enjoying it a bit, but feel like there should be more…..
Thank you, the answer I was looking for. Gutted this game was so dull, soulless and broken. "built from the ground up" yeah right. I think they've actually damaged the Forza brand with this game. Having played all the other Forzas and loved them, I got a Series X on launch hoping for this, then two years later it dropped and it's shite. Ugh.
Chances are there is huge D&I invasion in the workplace and diversity hires equating in a “Fairer” workplace but poorer quality as the passion has been replaced by equality …. Which is fine but telnet and the passion falls by the way side. I honestly don’t feel like this game was made by race car enthusiasts.
At least I have ACC, AC, and some other ones to play. However I can’t get into that monthly featured thing they are doing that is supposed to be like FH5 festival playlist. I’m already doing the festival playlist (which FH5 has been getting far better so that’s why I still play it and for cruising), but FM is just meh. It feels so bland to me. The AI is eh, everything is eh. I had so much hope for this game, the physics are good at least from my experience. It’s not horrible. But I don’t know why I cannot get myself to play this game much. When I have others that are just far better than it. It honestly sucks.
Yeah I agree. Even though they are fundamentally different games, Forza Horizon 5 is so much more complete and content rich than Forza Motorsport 2023 and gets so many amazing monthly updates jam packed with content.
Only playing it sparingly now to get the 935. Timegated races/limited time series are junk. Most car models junk. Paint options junk. FH5 is better just doesn't feel as good to drive the cars.
I would still say play AMS2. You wont get customization. But if you're looking for anything track related. Thats your ticket without having to deal with ACs nonsense.
This game was a huge disappointment, I was really looking forward to this game but it’s must a disaster. I got a refund and I’ll never buy it or play it again
Tried to play on the gamepass, the lock to lock steering is very bad (even more then F1 24) Counter steer is not existent basically and the car felt way worse then in GT7 Huge disappointment
I love FM, since the first part! I play it weekly…. And? And? And? The game still crashes when I finish ANY racing event. Now in month 6 seeing Sebring is a slap I’m ones face! It feels they’ve never worked “years” on rewriting the game engine but started last summer instead….
So im just gonna not spend the $87 on the premium. Im playing H5 which i love but im just wanting more realistic aggressive looks. Yall crushing me. 8 spent so much on the modern warfare and its full of crap im just feeding my xbox all the money.
I recommend Gran Turismo 7 if you have a Playstation console my friend. It's not perfect but leagues better than Forza Motosport imo. Which also broke my heart considering its the first GT game I played but I have played every Forza game in existence and am a massive Forza fan.
I can't quite explain it but something doesn't feel right, the driving feels wrong, GRAN TURISMO feels and looks amazing on yt, this feels off, the cars feel like they respond with a huge delay, it ls something you would expect from boats
Although my opinion on this game is at the opposite, It's always nice to look at a different point of view. You have elaborated on car progression, track and cars details, AI, I'm wondering if you have some additional comments on pure gameplay. That's an important tooic to evaluate in a game. Do the issues you detecteed ruin the gameplay? Or maybe the gameplay is boring by itself, regardless of other issues?
I think the handling in the game is really good on the controller, not so good on the wheel. But the game itself feels extremely boring to me. The single player just feels very incoherent and makes me wonder why am I even playing. There is no sense of progression or achievement, only a sense of grinding, at least for me. Like you look at Gran Turismo 7 and then that game has the cafe and every race series has so much information and love put in about the cars you are driving, it makes you feel that you are doing something and progression means something.
Being a big fan of the forza horizon franchise, I really thought I would like motorsport , more of a simulation type driving . It was a disaster , from not being able to load car sponsors decals to getting kicked from the game or freezing, Motorsport has a long way to go to catch Gran Turismo
This new game era dont make sense. I believe developers loose their creators to the new wave of glitches and cheating.giving up bluepeints. Like if someone from apple tech is there just to learn and sell the sauce and do their own thing. Having to keep up wirh cheaters and fix game cant be easy i doubt they're dropping the ball like this carelessly. Maybe someone screwed em thats usually what happens when something so great is sabotaged 8
@@Atonam_real I bought GT7 a few months ago, it has some issues but it's still an amazing game. Overall, I would say it has a lot more character and personality than Forza Motorsport
I´d love to have a proper music set, like FM7. Some genres like house, electronic, electric guitar improvisation, rock, all instrumental. Not the most important thing of course, but it shows that this game didn´t get all the love it really deserved.
@@alexn.t.6344 yeah now you mention it, the music in FM 2023 is really uneventful and actually I never even felt like any music of worth was even playing in the background while racing.
I’ve played every FM since the first and this game killed the series for me. Forza Horizon is so good and blew up in popularity taking all the casual players that used to also buy and play Forza Motorsport. T10 had like 6 years to build this game and they just shit it out instead with bugs and lies that everyone immediately saw at release.
The game was terrible at launch but its better now, still needs some tweaks to a few things though. But the worst part is the lack of content still. Even after update 8 which didnt even include a track, we still barely have any new cars or past forza racing cars that would fit in. They just slowly drip feeding some mid level cars with the occasional heavy hitter.
I own every Forza made, and have been active on the forums. I was asked to complete a survey and my comment to them was just dont make it a grind. I used to be a huge GT player but it defined stingy economy/grindy, IMO. I purchased it pre-release so excited since it had been so long since a new game. All the talk of ground up had me considering building a new PC. Thinking that we will see how it runs, I will wait and see. I am glad I did. They botched this so BAD. Not ground up, buggy, awful AI, GRINDY..........GRINDY. I dont want to have to grind that hard, I dont have the time anymore. I have less than 3 hrs on this game and I had more than that on all the other Forza titles in one sitting. Being on PC, there are other titles that are better with less heartache. Turn 10 took my money, although they are trying to make it better, they have ruined one of my favorite gaming experiences. No real apologies, no real remedy for the grindy nature/low payouts as you mentioned. That is why I always get VIP for good payouts, but I think VIP pays out what the old version did for a non VIP player. I quit trying after the first couple patches, I hope they get the message the community is sending soon, hopefully Dan can get the ship righted.
Devs make games grindy to make us keep playing but theyu forget the most basic thing, all u need is a good game and gamers will keep playing it anyway.
@@TheSupremeMedjay Absolutely!! Look at Team Fortress, people keep playing a game if it is good. IMO, I think they made grindy for a monetization strategy to be implemented later. IDK, I might be wrong but the other titles were not this bad. Well, at least with VIP. Good video my friend. Subscribed. धन्यवाद
I genuinely feel like im the only one who kinda likes it, i will admit at launch was a disaster and it still has its issues and lacks content and there are so many dope brand new cars that arent in the game but all in all i think it looks pretty good and the cars feel great to drive and the physics are probably the best out of any motorsport game i think. One other complaint i would have would be the cars sounds, not gonna lie some sound great but youll notice they have alot of recycled generic cars sounds and some cars dont even sound remotely close to the real thing. I just hope they dont give up on it cuz i think with enough love and attention it has potential to be pretty solid.
Game is not trash. If you are into multiplayer racing and nothing too serious its a good game for that. Not everyone is a sweaty sim racer and forza has made steps to inprove the main issues. The comments here qnd everywhere else are so ridiculous. The game is not that bad.
The game is that bad. A terrible "progression" system, no content, and rotates multiplayer races? Not to mention all the bugs, that they are still trying to fix. This isn't just a bad forza game, it is a terrible racing game. I just ordered another copy of forza motorsport 4, because that is an actual racing game. They really destroyed this francise.
I always come back to these types of videos whenever I hear people talking shit about racing games from the past. Like people are pretending that NFS Shift 1 and 2 were REALLY that "bad" back then and not truly ahead of their time like they've always been (I miss the year 2012 so much). Well guess what now buddy, LOOK AT THIS!!!
@@TheSupremeMedjay Exactly! That's what I've been saying lmao, people looking down on games of the past that are arguably even miles better than what Turn 10 did recently.🤣🤣Good thing I refused to preorder FM, otherwise that's $$$ down the drain.
@@TheSupremeMedjay Oh yeah I played FM4 and 2 during the pandemic days. Truly one of the times I've had fun while being locked inside. I even occasionally play AC as well.
I just shared an image of Forza Motorsport 2 from the welcome and vision page in the collectors edition book because that's when the franchise had passion and soul! I wish this returned in the new games and it didn't! Great video and thank you for helping me decide if I should or shouldn't return to the new Forza! Keep up the great work, you have earned my sub good sir! 🙏
How does this dev team still exist but the team behind Hi Fi Rush gets shut down.
I'm not sure the dev team actually exists. In my mind the whole thing was made by unpaid interns by copy-pasting stuff from other games (badly... but unpaid, so it's great value), management team who were really happy about not spending money on development cause interns are free, and marketing team who "built from the ground up"
@ikondrift I have a serious thought on that as well. When they did their inside look ajd showed the team, none of them looked like people you'd see at a race track or even know what a shock absorber is or where Spa is located. They just look like hipsters out of college that wanted a job in game design and this is where they could get in and start. Nothing about this game feels like it was made by racing enthusiasts hence "Car-P-G"
What why did the hi-do rush dev team get shut down
@@wilbs5970 Too much creativity.
Oh that answer is simple see your problem is applying a little nuisance called "logic" see this "logic" makes you think that great games made by caring developers would be a good thing and profitable. However, the horror couldn't be farther from the truth. Microsoft has to pay these greedy devs for making games to play and with no ongoing monetization model, they may have to "gasp" make a sequel resulting in more wages being spent. We can't have money being siphoned away from our hard working investors can we? Plus closing Hi Fi rush devs means all profits from the game go directly to the publisher and those nasty devs don't get steal any of Microsofts well deserved and owed money.
However, Forza doesn't require a lot of these "devs" and they can rely on unpaid AI work to do the heavy lifting with an ongoing monetization model. Meaning more hands in the pockets of investors, as God intended.
Hard work isn't rewarded, it's exploited and then diminished so that the elite can profit off of ill gotten gains.
This is not the only developer who is failing; more and more companies are releasing games unfinished and expecting the user to pay for a game that they have lied about. Forza Motorsport is a shell of its former self. Forza Motorsport 6 was good, 7 is a flop, and 8 is a train wreck.
@@lorencehill5724 Yeah I agree. For me the last good Motosport was FM5.
I bought this, being all excited. And bear in mind everything I say below is just my opinion.
I was so horrendously disappointed. I still am.
Forza Motorsport 4 was the last one I played and even going back to it now the differences are staggering. FM4 had a sense of reverence and excitement about cars. It had a nice, fun singleplayer mode with a sense of progression. The nice little touches like having Jeremy Clarkson voice presentations about certain vehicles and just the utter sense of class the game had was fantastic.
Forza Motorsport 2023 is just... absolute shite. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry to hear that. Hopefully you can still refund...
What pisses me off the most is that they have the audacity to sell dozens of DLCs despite the base game being unfinished. I mean Ginetta GT4 for 2,99€, they charge you for a fucking Ginetta, the most generic GT car ever, not a car pack or new track, but one single fucking GINETTA car from 2019 for 2,99€, wtf is this crap.
Yeah this is so disrespectful towards the consumer. Also what I find weird is how only limited cars upto a point are included in the car pass but after that none are.
greed my friend
You could have gotten it for free. That’s on you
Ive had every Forza title.
This is an Xbox 360 game with a better lighting engine and slightly better physics. The end.
Its a mess.
And a 70$ price tag as well...
I hope GT7 comes to pc soon, despite its subpar career mode
GT7 on PC would be so dope, they are porting so many games to PC so I hope GT comes too!
I enjoy GT7 on my PS4, have no issue with PC port EXCEPT! the possibility of hackers ruining the sport mode experience... If this happens they must be ready to instantly isolate PC lobbies from PS lobbies.
It is a life service game.. When the servers are shut off the game will die instantly. I mean look at GT Sport for example.
@@Vixen1525 GT Sport was given an offline patch so it is preserved and you can still play 90% of the game now.
This is much better than Ubisoft completely shutting The Crew 1.
@@manostororosso2364hacker’s really aren’t that bad in racing games and you can’t really tell if someone cranks their cars grip up by 5%
I paid 100 bucks for the early release. The online was never fun no matter how hard i tried to get into it, controls are slow snd shitty on purpose. So many small and big bugs ruined it. I removed it from my steam account so id never get bored snd install it again.
The ported cars from FM -> FH5 look and sound much better too...
Devastating...
Agreed!
It's the only motorsport sim on PC that has the ability to modify and tune your own ride. However, the AI still stink. Still break check at slow corners for no reason. And Online Racing lacks setting up your own races. The only hope for that would be the upcoming Assetta Corsa 2. However one didn't have car modifications.
Assetto Corsa games have mods. It's designed for modders, not the FM or NFS-type gamers..
Well its not a "Sim" its at Best loosely a simcade.
@@Galm276 "Sim" means to simulate (imitate the appearance or character of:,) not "replicate" (to produce an exact copy of it). Learn the difference.
GT7 was exactly the same !!
There was a lack of content and even the grinding you had to do was tweaked as more of the game was added via updatess and patches.
Forza motorsport just followed the trend that GT set.
I swear to you I will forever hate and never forgive Gran Turismo for ruining car games with online only sh*t.
love that you cut right to the point and didnt bs
Thank you!
I've played FM '23 since launch and a lot of my issue is the lack of transparency from the dev team and why they say things then immediately back track on something. Literally this last update they're hinted at a spectate mode for private lobbies in one of the dev blog posts iirc a week ago and then the update releases and nothing I mean nothing was brought up about it. What's even more funny is that anything that has been spoken about it was removed or left out from any patch notes so I guess it wasn't ready to be added... I do a lot of league races within forza and I can still say there is a lot of gripes that people still have with this game that should be a non factor issue 6 months into this game's cycle. I can't backtrack my tire selections on pit road, I can't add more fuel than I already have in my tank if I select the same or less fuel amounts, I have issues with the balancing inside certain classes, There are still issues with PC that are still crashing people's games, and there are countless amount of bugs that are problems elsewhere within different parts of this game. I think there's a semi-recent youtube video where a ex-dev of forza motorsports that was pretty damning for the whole cycle of this game, he went on about how his dev phase went and explained to the viewers that there's literally a specific amount of time which is about 18 months they can work on the game until they have to take a 6 month break from the dev group unless they're signed on for a full-time contract which is pretty rare from what they youtuber was saying but the problem is that policy is in effect company wide for Microsoft. My entire issue with that is how are we expecting the game to even have a chance of turning around the game's bug and issue ridden state when you got people working for a year and a half and having to leave for a half year to do other things and with almost no chance of returning? In my honest opinion this game was DOA when we started seeing some of the early play tests where they had the forza areo still modeled from FM5 with the whole "Built from the ground up mantra". I can only hope they continue working their asses off on it to make any money spent on it worth a while but with a lack of people on it we can only hope that this game hit rock bottom and is on it's way up. I think we need a lot more transparency, a lot more time which for both I don't know how either will be dealt with. I can see a way out because they are doing some better work with a lot of these patch notes that are fixing some of these issues but I think this game needs a overhaul and until that happens I don't see the expected amount of player's playing the game at the moment and even if a overhaul that is needed happens who knows is that'll add in new issues performance and over all game play wise.
Short answer NO long answer dont even try the game
As sad it is to say, yes...
I didn’t buy it at release. Waited till end of April 2024. I’ve played most of the Horizons, Motorsports and GTs. The current Motorsport feel rather boring for being a “new”, current gen only console game. Motorsport 7 was fantastic, fun, with plenty to do. The current Motorsport feels like a lot less game. I am enjoying it a bit, but feel like there should be more…..
I feel you there. How would you personally compare this to Gran Turismo 7? (For me its not even close)
Thank you, the answer I was looking for. Gutted this game was so dull, soulless and broken. "built from the ground up" yeah right. I think they've actually damaged the Forza brand with this game. Having played all the other Forzas and loved them, I got a Series X on launch hoping for this, then two years later it dropped and it's shite. Ugh.
@@NRSOGK I'm sorry to hear that mate. Buying a console specifically for this game only for it to turn out like this must have been heartbreaking 😔
@@TheSupremeMedjay I gambled and won with forza 6, 7 was still really good, but I guess my luck ran out. Anyway, thanks for the video!
Chances are there is huge D&I invasion in the workplace and diversity hires equating in a “Fairer” workplace but poorer quality as the passion has been replaced by equality …. Which is fine but telnet and the passion falls by the way side. I honestly don’t feel like this game was made by race car enthusiasts.
thanks for the honest review sir
My pleasure sir!
I paid $75 on release played for 1 hour never even touched it again im back on forza 6 i can use whatever car i want and just race...
At least I have ACC, AC, and some other ones to play. However I can’t get into that monthly featured thing they are doing that is supposed to be like FH5 festival playlist. I’m already doing the festival playlist (which FH5 has been getting far better so that’s why I still play it and for cruising), but FM is just meh. It feels so bland to me. The AI is eh, everything is eh. I had so much hope for this game, the physics are good at least from my experience. It’s not horrible. But I don’t know why I cannot get myself to play this game much. When I have others that are just far better than it. It honestly sucks.
Yeah I agree. Even though they are fundamentally different games, Forza Horizon 5 is so much more complete and content rich than Forza Motorsport 2023 and gets so many amazing monthly updates jam packed with content.
Thanks, I almost bought it in the sale. I'll avoid
Only playing it sparingly now to get the 935. Timegated races/limited time series are junk.
Most car models junk.
Paint options junk.
FH5 is better just doesn't feel as good to drive the cars.
I would still say play AMS2. You wont get customization. But if you're looking for anything track related. Thats your ticket without having to deal with ACs nonsense.
An F1 game despite spammed per year had fun career then this pile of garbage
This game is a disaster
This game was a huge disappointment, I was really looking forward to this game but it’s must a disaster. I got a refund and I’ll never buy it or play it again
Sadly the same with me. I love Motorsport 5 but haven't had a truly great experience since then.
They need to add Bathurst 1000 track
Tried to play on the gamepass, the lock to lock steering is very bad (even more then F1 24)
Counter steer is not existent basically and the car felt way worse then in GT7
Huge disappointment
Yeah the steering is so bad. Even in my gameplay u can see the animations break and it drive weirdly. Cars defiantly feel worse than GT7.
I love FM, since the first part! I play it weekly…. And? And? And? The game still crashes when I finish ANY racing event. Now in month 6 seeing Sebring is a slap I’m ones face! It feels they’ve never worked “years” on rewriting the game engine but started last summer instead….
I feel you 😭
Yeah I paid for this. What a massive disappointment.
So im just gonna not spend the $87 on the premium. Im playing H5 which i love but im just wanting more realistic aggressive looks. Yall crushing me. 8 spent so much on the modern warfare and its full of crap im just feeding my xbox all the money.
I recommend Gran Turismo 7 if you have a Playstation console my friend. It's not perfect but leagues better than Forza Motosport imo.
Which also broke my heart considering its the first GT game I played but I have played every Forza game in existence and am a massive Forza fan.
I can't quite explain it but something doesn't feel right, the driving feels wrong, GRAN TURISMO feels and looks amazing on yt, this feels off, the cars feel like they respond with a huge delay, it ls something you would expect from boats
Every game has different driving mechanics.
In a word … no.
I built a Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z in this game that will kick some arse! Stable as a rock in corners and puts power down well!
@@TheMostSavageOfAllGeese That's awesome! Hope you get some awesome races 😎
Although my opinion on this game is at the opposite, It's always nice to look at a different point of view.
You have elaborated on car progression, track and cars details, AI, I'm wondering if you have some additional comments on pure gameplay. That's an important tooic to evaluate in a game.
Do the issues you detecteed ruin the gameplay? Or maybe the gameplay is boring by itself, regardless of other issues?
I think the handling in the game is really good on the controller, not so good on the wheel.
But the game itself feels extremely boring to me. The single player just feels very incoherent and makes me wonder why am I even playing. There is no sense of progression or achievement, only a sense of grinding, at least for me.
Like you look at Gran Turismo 7 and then that game has the cafe and every race series has so much information and love put in about the cars you are driving, it makes you feel that you are doing something and progression means something.
I just want my gt prius
ASC all the way 👌
Its a great game.
I just got the game through Game Pass and I've been enjoying it a lot.
Performance is really good too except with ray tracing when it's a rainy night.
Being a big fan of the forza horizon franchise, I really thought I would like motorsport , more of a simulation type driving . It was a disaster , from not being able to load car sponsors decals to getting kicked from the game or freezing, Motorsport has a long way to go to catch Gran Turismo
Agreed my friend!
game is trash
So is your face
@@afistfulofpimples1745 have you look at you're dumbass
I cannot agree more.
This new game era dont make sense. I believe developers loose their creators to the new wave of glitches and cheating.giving up bluepeints. Like if someone from apple tech is there just to learn and sell the sauce and do their own thing. Having to keep up wirh cheaters and fix game cant be easy i doubt they're dropping the ball like this carelessly. Maybe someone screwed em thats usually what happens when something so great is sabotaged 8
Awesome video my friend ❤
@@Atonam_real Thank you my friend 🙏
@@TheSupremeMedjay game though, gotta say is still so terrible 😭 I am considering getting gran turismo
@@Atonam_real I bought GT7 a few months ago, it has some issues but it's still an amazing game.
Overall, I would say it has a lot more character and personality than Forza Motorsport
I´d love to have a proper music set, like FM7. Some genres like house, electronic, electric guitar improvisation, rock, all instrumental. Not the most important thing of course, but it shows that this game didn´t get all the love it really deserved.
@@alexn.t.6344 yeah now you mention it, the music in FM 2023 is really uneventful and actually I never even felt like any music of worth was even playing in the background while racing.
I’ve played every FM since the first and this game killed the series for me.
Forza Horizon is so good and blew up in popularity taking all the casual players that used to also buy and play Forza Motorsport. T10 had like 6 years to build this game and they just shit it out instead with bugs and lies that everyone immediately saw at release.
I agree with every word u said mate
The racing In horizon 5 is good. Really? Are you insane? Being smashed into every hairpin which there are 10 on every track. This is good is it? 😂
@@TheSupremeMedjayyou both are crazy.
@@lee70ns Okay fanboy 😂
If you are a console player using a controller and want to race online against highly skilled humans Forza Motorsports is a very good option right now
I see! How is the multiplayer compared to GT7 in your opinion?
the only issue i dont like about FM is the FFB
the simple answer is no. we are now up to update 10
@@stevesteven7650 still no good?
I hope they have an update and fix some stuff.
The grind sounds like GT7 still
Only simcade on PC with still a decent player base so it's hard to complain
The game was terrible at launch but its better now, still needs some tweaks to a few things though. But the worst part is the lack of content still. Even after update 8 which didnt even include a track, we still barely have any new cars or past forza racing cars that would fit in. They just slowly drip feeding some mid level cars with the occasional heavy hitter.
I own every Forza made, and have been active on the forums. I was asked to complete a survey and my comment to them was just dont make it a grind. I used to be a huge GT player but it defined stingy economy/grindy, IMO. I purchased it pre-release so excited since it had been so long since a new game. All the talk of ground up had me considering building a new PC. Thinking that we will see how it runs, I will wait and see. I am glad I did. They botched this so BAD. Not ground up, buggy, awful AI, GRINDY..........GRINDY. I dont want to have to grind that hard, I dont have the time anymore. I have less than 3 hrs on this game and I had more than that on all the other Forza titles in one sitting. Being on PC, there are other titles that are better with less heartache. Turn 10 took my money, although they are trying to make it better, they have ruined one of my favorite gaming experiences. No real apologies, no real remedy for the grindy nature/low payouts as you mentioned. That is why I always get VIP for good payouts, but I think VIP pays out what the old version did for a non VIP player. I quit trying after the first couple patches, I hope they get the message the community is sending soon, hopefully Dan can get the ship righted.
Devs make games grindy to make us keep playing but theyu forget the most basic thing, all u need is a good game and gamers will keep playing it anyway.
@@TheSupremeMedjay Absolutely!! Look at Team Fortress, people keep playing a game if it is good.
IMO, I think they made grindy for a monetization strategy to be implemented later. IDK, I might be wrong but the other titles were not this bad. Well, at least with VIP. Good video my friend. Subscribed. धन्यवाद
did they fix FFB?
Doubt it, probably a pretty low priority unfortunately
gamepass for the win.
Nice. Do u have any recommendations on what I should play?
You do know you’re supposed to let people pass you if you’re driving too slow right? It’s a golden rule of track racing.
Okay wannabe track racer. Its a video game lol.
I genuinely feel like im the only one who kinda likes it, i will admit at launch was a disaster and it still has its issues and lacks content and there are so many dope brand new cars that arent in the game but all in all i think it looks pretty good and the cars feel great to drive and the physics are probably the best out of any motorsport game i think. One other complaint i would have would be the cars sounds, not gonna lie some sound great but youll notice they have alot of recycled generic cars sounds and some cars dont even sound remotely close to the real thing. I just hope they dont give up on it cuz i think with enough love and attention it has potential to be pretty solid.
If you are enjoying it then its great! I am hoping they make more updates to focus on the core experience and make it better!
Im glad its just a game and all i do is have fun when i can
Lol kill thr game more on UA-cam 😂🤣
How much do you guys think this game is worth buying, like the premium edition.
Even if you are a massive Forza fan I wouldn't recommend it. But if you really really wanna buy it, I would say don't spend more than 40$
Game is not trash. If you are into multiplayer racing and nothing too serious its a good game for that.
Not everyone is a sweaty sim racer and forza has made steps to inprove the main issues.
The comments here qnd everywhere else are so ridiculous. The game is not that bad.
The game is that bad. A terrible "progression" system, no content, and rotates multiplayer races? Not to mention all the bugs, that they are still trying to fix. This isn't just a bad forza game, it is a terrible racing game. I just ordered another copy of forza motorsport 4, because that is an actual racing game. They really destroyed this francise.
I always come back to these types of videos whenever I hear people talking shit about racing games from the past. Like people are pretending that NFS Shift 1 and 2 were REALLY that "bad" back then and not truly ahead of their time like they've always been (I miss the year 2012 so much). Well guess what now buddy, LOOK AT THIS!!!
Uh no, Forza Motorsport is still shit
@@TheSupremeMedjay Exactly! That's what I've been saying lmao, people looking down on games of the past that are arguably even miles better than what Turn 10 did recently.🤣🤣Good thing I refused to preorder FM, otherwise that's $$$ down the drain.
@@hectorzambrano4092 Honestly you are better off playing older Forza games or even Gran Tourismo if you like simcades.
@@TheSupremeMedjay Oh yeah I played FM4 and 2 during the pandemic days. Truly one of the times I've had fun while being locked inside. I even occasionally play AC as well.
I just shared an image of Forza Motorsport 2 from the welcome and vision page in the collectors edition book because that's when the franchise had passion and soul! I wish this returned in the new games and it didn't! Great video and thank you for helping me decide if I should or shouldn't return to the new Forza! Keep up the great work, you have earned my sub good sir! 🙏
Older Forza were so good man! And thank you for your support!
@@TheSupremeMedjay I still play them to this day! Happy to support anytime, we got to support each other! 💯
Never been worth playin from day 1
As sad it is, I have to agree with you...