11 months later... I scanned the comments...maybe I missed someone mentioning this, but there was an influx of Irish orphans into Quebec in the 1850's, due to the potato famine. They were adopted by French Canadians.... some taking on the names of the adopting parents, while others maintained their Irish names. This could also be a reason for the lack of French DNA. The parent/grandparent being French Canadian would be totally possible.
For the first one, if the ancesters came from the region "britany" in France, it is always listed as irish/scothish/english It's the celtic part of France.
My sideview is accurate because my mom had native American ancestry from New Mexico USA and Iberian and My father was 100%european ... so the break down was easy to divide.
Latest ancestry update just came through for me and seems to be getting more accurate each round. In April I got 3% Germanic on just mom's side when it'd never given me that ethnicity before. Now in August it shows 11% total, with 2% from dad and 9% from mom. My Dad's side is French Canadian but I had found one German 4th GG. Mom's side has Ulster county Dutch.
You helped me with my husband's mysterious Jewish ancestry in your second episode of answering questions. Since then, with this side view, that color showed up vividly on his father's line, which is what we have suspected. I followed your other suggestions too, but so far have not found any paper proof that the GGGrandmother was anything but a perfectly loyal Methodist. I'm still working on it, though, and who knows when it might all become a lot clearer. THANK you so much for your videos.
I was really impressed with side view. My four grandparents have very different ethnicities so it was easy to verify how they lined up. I have some Aegean dna and this gives a clue to which Italian line that came from.
My side view was very helpful and easy to figure out because my Grandma on my Dad's side was Mexican so I know the side with the indigenous, spanish and Portuguese was my fathers!
A QUESTION. I am currently preparing a presentation for our family history group involving NPE and a family legend. The legend suggests mum's paternal line is Levers no illegitimacy. My research suggests illegitimacy and that we are descended from a John Levers a shoemaker born in Greasley, Nottingham. With more Parish Records online I have traced his ancestry. Unfortunately I was unable to test the Y/paternal lineage. I just have Mum's DNA on Ancestry. There are a few Levers in Greasley in the trees on DNA cousins' trees: however these are on Mum's maternal/parent 2 side. One is not assigned. The not assigned one also has the surname Meakin. The only other hit I have with Meakin in on our mitochondrial lineage which I traced to the Meakins in Greasley: the only other hit in that area in my family tree. The question is: 'if we have Levers on Mum's maternal and paternal side; how would that affect the side view and could it lead to an unassigned side view if they are the same levers family?'
My paternal grandfather was 3/4 French Canadian. Re, to the English & NW Europe, Scotland & etc., 1066 happened. There has been cross mingling since across the channel. My FC is the previously mentioned groups as well as my French. I think Ancestry has been getting better each update. BTW, there’s going to be an update by the end of the month. The Sideview feature is nice. My folks are very different. My father was Western European & my German (central & east European). The only thing they had in common was Norway. I’m glad they got a Chromosome Painter too.
I have German ancestors from there, too. They spoke German and had German names, as is common in that part of France. My DNA shows no French. (As expected)
France in itself is multiple sub ethnicities having obe common language. The Swiss and Belgians haven’t yet assimilated into one language. But it’s the same idea. Hodgepodge
Re: the guy looking for French DNA: If he clicks on the arrow to view the England NE Europe it covers a LOT more of France then on the overview view. A LOT more!
I found sideview helpful to confirm which side of the family a couple family stories came from because my mom tested but I don't have access to my dad anymore. I have memories of stories growing up but never knew which side of the family they came from... but now I can see for myself. I also think its super cool that the side view shows that I inherited all my Norwegian DNA from one parent thanks to recombination... we have matching amounts. Without side view, I would have assumed I got some from both parents. The one thing I do find frustrating though is that my mother HAS tested... and I've labeled her as being my mother on my matches but in side view, it won't tell me which parent is her. I'm lucky that I seem to have inherited some Baltic from my father since she has none so that's my only way of telling. I'm hoping I labeled them right. That's all.
Yes, I've been finding it helpful because my mum's father is basically an unknown (the name we had is slightly wrong, the age was slightly wrong, the only thing right was where he grew up lol). Like you, I was able to test mum but not my dad (he passed away before they became affordable). We had q vague idea from my tree work hypothesis that her father was half Swedish, but hadn't been able to prove it. Then mum showed at 30%, my brother & I at 24% (it's first time we've read the same amount, it's been as low as 18% and as high as 26% at one point as they finesse the database), so we weren't sure if we were getting a lot more than expected or if Dad had some. Side view has shown me that not only is all our Swedish from my Mum, but all my Irish & Scottish is from my dad. The Irish I expected, but I have absolutely no idea where the 15% Scottish comes from when his parents were very deeply rooted in the South of England with a tiniest blip of Irish. I had expected some Scottish from mum as her dad's side are from the borders, but nope. Mum shows as 5% but it also shows she hasn't given me any of hers and my bro hasn't got any at all. So I'm wondering if it's correctly assigned it or if it's been able to precisely assign that on mine but on theirs it's part of their "English & NW european" percentage. On top of that, it shows that all her Scandinavian percentages comes from her paternal grandmother, which finally proves my hypothesis. It's only taken 18 years lol. Anyway, it's been fascinating and also helpful for sorting matches. I'm glad I'm not the only one finding them useful. Now, if only more people would attach a tree to their DNA lol.
I have tested my late father on a couple of sites ancestry & familytreedna. I’ve tested my brothers, mom, myself & all the nieces & nephews. I find it interesting
Sideview was helpful to me because I'm adopted and through my half-sister, I knew that my mother's family was Albrecht (I don't know if I spelled it right) Albanians that migrated to Sicily during the Ottoman invasion. I have no idea who my biological father is so it was cool to be able to see my results separated in that way even before I could label them maternal and paternal.
France is a hodgepodge of many european strains of dna. Also, it trongly protects it’s citizen’s rights to anonymity and medical information, including dna. They do have good online records though, son genealogy is a better route than dna Ps same for germany. For obvious historical reasons, keeping tabs on the ethnicity of their population is quite frowned upon.
I have a few obituaries for the children of Israel Fairchild. He used the name Aaron and was in the Census once in Chautauqua County, NY. He is the only relative in 11 generations with an unknown burial. Jean Fairchild Gilmore blog has 4 FREE eBooks with indices for Fairchilds in the USA. We started writing in 1978. I have not hired a genealogist. I took 2 courses from BYU in 1978. My Mother’s family has 7 published volumes. David A. Avant, Jr. wrote 6. I did research and discovered a genealogy where my grandfather was born. A teacher who sold encyclopedias wrote 100 pages. I know the cousins who got married and all their stories possible.
With the Potato Famine, quite a number of Irish went to Canada too & some of them went to the province of Quebec & many of the assimilated into that culture including French & came to see themselves as French Canadian not as just Irish - & I'm sure fore economic reasons there were English, Scottish & Welsh who also did it too..
The irish more readily learned ffrench and mixed married from the catholic church. Also they both were lower in society. Scott welsh and english maintqined their seperate communities jntil later. They did rape french women though.
Ancestry is listing Ireland and a small amount of Nigeria on opposite sides. But the Chromosome Browser says they are on the same side. I have always seen the African on my 6th Chromosome. Now I am confused but the side with the Spanish has African Haplogroups and many Spanish spelling of their names back 5 generations and more.
With the last question about the French on both sides but not showing on one, maybe he really didn't inherit any from that side. A good example is my fathers full sister has dna from regions I don't have any from, which my father may have received and I didn't receive any of it from him or he may not have received it to pass down to me. I do have very mixed ancestry with 13 regions, 7 being outside of Europe but I am definitely a very pale white american ( I literally turn bright red anytime I exercise or my blood gets to flowing). My ancestry is very mixed and therefore I believe there's a lot of ancestors from places that will not show up in my dna because every generation we lose 50% of each of our parents!!!!
Very true, especially with the randomness of recombination, and the fact that his French ancestry is quite distant, it may be possible that he only inherited segments from that French ancestry on one side and not the other.
Side view was very helpful for me because my mum was French Canadian and my dad half French half German. I got 64% French and then a mix of English/Irish/Scottish and then Germanic. According to side view my mum gave me 50% French and my dad gave me 14% French, which I think is pretty accurate because half his French ancestors were from Brittany. But it was helpful to divide the French (I also am pretty confident the 50% is from her because my closer maternal DNA matches all scored 92-97% French).
The GEDMATCH cluster has help me with my family tree because I had two family members with the Long last name and it helped me find and 8th cousin on one side so it will help further separate both lines.
Thank you for answering my question, where is my French. I have researched my French Ancestors. Alot of them are from the Brittany region in France. There are also some near Spain and southern France. I do have ancestors from Belgium and one line traced back to Holland. I have gotten my updated results and I have 3% France, 4% Germain, 18% Northwestern Europe, 21% Scotland and 53% Ireland. I am starting to understand where the French is hiding. My Grandmother from Northern England I believe has the 3% Northern Ireland along with Scotland and England.
My grandmother has 30% Danish/Swedish on her father's side when we expected her to be 100% Polish/German/Russia region (because border shifting) on both sides. All other ethnic percentages make sense.
when a person's paper trail show French ancestors for both parents, but the side view only shows it on one side, it could mean the tester didn't get the dna related to France ethnicity from one parent as they only get about 50% of their dna from each parent. I like the side view feature and the recent update (beta) where they show which chromosome the ethnicity is located. Now they need to show with a person's matches which chromosome and ethnicity they are using to determining the match.
Technically Scotland is in Great (sic) Britain. Britain refers to England, and Wales, whereas Great (sic) Britain refers to England, Wales, and Scotland. United Kingdom refers to England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland.
Regarding Ancestry Sideview: With every update, my father's and my 1% African DNA switches between several Northern and West Coastal African Countries. (It's pretty weird, but 1% Africa is always there after each update. My brother used to have it very early on, but his disappeared over the years.) Looking at my father's DNA via his Sideview, I was able to determine this African Ancestry (such that it is) comes from his mother, so in that regard, it helps me know what possible paths to venture down to find the African connection. LOL 🙂
If it’s only 1%, virtually all actual geneticists recommend ignoring it. It’s possibly genetic “static” anyway. Many geneticists (as opposed to genealogists) say anything under about 5% (some say 10-15%) is within the range of error and is only worth considering if it helps you with your paper trail. As an ethnicity estimate on its own, take it with a huge grain of salt. At that small a percentage, even if it’s valid, it’s probably too far back in the past for you to find identifiable ancestors anyway. You also may want to test with several companies to get a sense of how much ethnicity estimates can vary from company to company. It’s a good reality check, if nothing else.
Sideview can work really well for otherwise Europeans like me who have 2-3% African ethnicity. I have it on all 3 tests I did and if you adjust the percentage up to 90% on 23andMe, it's still there. Sideview says my Nigerian is on my mother's side and also my Cameroon-Congo-Bantu.
For the first person, i would look at their DNA and say that i need to see the tree. There were English people who emigrated into french canada and whose names became Franconized. If your ancestors were truly French-French Canadian, they would certainly show French DNA, so i think that this persons DNA either shows a Scotts Irish Emigration based French canadian ancestry or at least a partial circumstances like that, which would allow for genetic recombination and chance to allow for the french to just have not been hereditarily passed. if you see alot of surnames like Martin and Robert, they may have been plausibly English
Mine seemed pretty accurate like for example both of my parents have around half German ancestry and I’m half as well and it says I inherit around a quarter German from both of my which is reflected on my results.
Remember that with Ancestry DNA information, the DNA peters out at about the 5th generation. So, one could have French ancestors back to the 1500s who later intermix with other nationalities, thus the DNA is so diluted that it will not show up in the present day side view.
A guy claims that Ancestry DNA has found one specific ancestor 5 generations back? Is that possible? I can understand that DNA could point to one family name, but, he claims of all the people in that one family the DNA at Ancestry proved he descended from one specific brother of one specific family. I kind of doubt this, but, I don't know how Ancestry works.
My results are fine. More interested right now in the ethnicity update that's supposed to come this month. I'm annoyed that Ancestry isn't giving a preview of what the 8 new regions are going to be. I would rather know if there is some chance my results will be affected, aside from a possible adjustment in the percentages of the regions I'm already a part of, than not.
I'll just add that in my case, Side View is very accurate. It has helped a lot because the only Irish ancestry I have is on my father's side, and that is exactly what the tool shows, and that helps me with my sorting of matches. The percentage makes perfect sense, too. My father should be about 25% Irish with an Irish grandmother (her mother was supposed to be French Canadian, but her mother's mother was supposed to have been Irish, and I'm not convinced of the French ancestry yet. I have 11% Irish (according to Ancestry). The results mirror what I know from my tree. I have a great great grandfather who was 100% Irish. Oh, yes. Knowing that my dad had Irish ancestry helped me figure out parent 1 and parent 2 as you pointed out with Mr. Beat's results.
I understand about the Alsace Lorraine region. One of my great great grandfathers was from that region. We found his birth record (born in Roeschwoog). His record was in French. He moved to the US before Germany took control of the region.
How far back do records go for US naturalization/ citizenship? Most, if not all of the ancestors on my Mom’s side of the family arrived between the late 1600’s to the late 1700’s. Too far back, I assume?
It varies by location, with most records starting around the late 18th century and early 19th century, but some records do go back a bit further. www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/United_States_Naturalization_and_Citizenship_Online_Genealogy_Records
France is a hodgepodge of many european strains of dna. Also, it trongly protects it’s citizen’s rights to anonymity and medical information, including dna. They do have good online records though, son genealogy is a better route than dna Ps same for germany. For obvious historical reasons, keeping tabs on the ethnicity of their population is quite frowned upon.
I don't pretend to know a whole about DNA results and the values, but I do know things just don't jive. I do know that "parent 2" is definitely my mother since all my Germanic is on her side. On my father's most of my Scottish is from his side. But what's confusing is how I only show to have 1% Irish on my mother's side, but I have several Irish immigrants from both sides, much more than just 1%. That's why I know something's not kosher with test results.
My mom's maternal grandfather's father was born in Quebec and his mother in France, Ancestry has my mom French at 2%, but can range between 0-18%, and my dna has no French. On 23andme my mom's French and German is 17.8% and I have 7.6%.
France is a hodgepodge of many european strains of dna. Also, it trongly protects it’s citizen’s rights to anonymity and medical information, including dna. They do have good online records though, son genealogy is a better route than dna
My parents passed a long time a go when I was a child, but it's funny to see Sideview because I only inherited Ashkenazi Jewish dna from my mom (I don't know if she would of had some local populations mixed in, as 100% anything is so rare- her mom's dad was polish jewish and mom's mom was russian/belarussian jewish; her dad's family were Polish Jews). The "diversity"; other European countries that show up; are all from my dad. My mom was 1st gen. American.
The jewish populations in eastern europe you cite were quite exclusive in their intermarriage. In Spain, Portugal and lesser degree’in France and Italy, they converted by force (inquisition) or emigrated, or intermarried willingly (well documented in France) though there were segregated periods (second ww of course...)
French people can have Scottish ancestors. Most famous example: Charles de Gaulle. The reason is easily found: "Auld Alliance". Scottish (and Irish) soldiers in France were normal.
What the side view did for me was give me a good chuckle over something my Gaelic speaking grandmother used to always tell me. There's not a drop of English blood in ya, she'd say. Turns out the only drops are the drops she introduced through my grandfather. LOL
Ciao sono Kevin ti sequo sempre sei bravo complimenti.io ho un problema ho molte corrispondenze dai paesi balcanici ma io non ho etnia balcanica ho greco e italiano meridionale sardo e medio orientale e pure loro hanno queste due etnie greco e medio orientale poi loro hanno anche Asia meridionale occidentale e brevi e Nord Europa est ecc ecc.e poi con questo gruppo abbiamo una triangolazione sullo stesso segmento.io ho costruito il mio albero ma mi manca la parte di mia nonna materna che il padre non si sa forse lei lo sapeva ma noi non lo sappiamo e anche sua madre la mia bisnonna non aveva il padre.volevo domandarti forse c'è una connessione tra questo fatto che ti ho spiegato? E poi anche per la mia vicinanza tra i paesi balcanici io sono del sud Italia Puglia .geazie
My parents have similar backgrounds...and Sideview has not been helpful. I can't entice either of my very elderly parents to DNA test. They are both in their 90's. Comparing my results to 1st cousins doesn't match Sideview, either.
I haven’t seen a chromosome painter within Ancestry, and haven’t heard that one is coming soon. Would love to know the source of your info on this. It’s definitely on a lot of users’ wishlist.
This is not the same as a chromosome browser, which allows DNA painting. Chromosome painting is just painting the ethnicity admixture across the chromosomes (like how 23andMe has had it for years). support.ancestry.com/s/article/Chromosome-Painter?language=en_US
I dislike the side view and find them completely inaccurate. I have Scottish and African ancestry on both sides but it attributes the entire 43% Scottish to my mother and my entire 35% African to my father. The Irish is given to my father, yet based on my ancestry that is my mother's side.
I can trace about 70% of my ancestors to France. My paternal line came here in the 1620's and my maternal line in the 1740's, right before everything went to shit
France strongly protects it’s citizen’s rights to anonymity and medical information, including dna. If an insurance company or bad actors in government knew your genetic predisposition to illness, or your family secrets.... Or sperm donors have a right to anonymity (it’s not a money making operation because body parts and fluids cannot be sold - so you can give anonymously) They do have good online records though, so genealogy is a better route than dna Ps same for germany. For obvious historical reasons, keeping tabs on the ethnicity of their population is quite frowned upon. It’s EU laws of safekeeping of data, and french laws of non resale or non divulgation of data to’third parties that are stopping the companies from having a free for all in europe).
Just because his ancestors came to Quebec and settled there, doesn't mean they came from France! I'm 83% France and can trace many of my ancestors to France specifically!
When is Ancestry going to go back further than 1700 in the Regions and communities? All of my ancestors on both sides have been in the US since well before 1700, except for one that came from Gigha Island in Scotland to the US in 1755. Also, I find it frustrating that I have no communities or specific regions (other than UK and NW Europe) in Europe.
Eu (europe) strongly protects it’s citizen’s rights to anonymity and medical information, including dna. If an insurance company or bad actors in government knew your genetic predisposition to illness, or your family secrets.... genealogy is a better route than dna For obvious historical reasons, keeping tabs on the ethnicity of their population is quite frowned upon. It’s EU laws of safekeeping of data, laws of non resale or non divulgation of data to third parties that are stopping the companies from having a free for all in europe).
yes, yes and yes, I have French Canadian DNA and mine and my dad from which the French DNA comes from shows nothing even though he has French Canadian and French American communities
France is and was a hub of populations since forever, so there is no ’cheese, bread and wine’ loving gene. Yikes the spaniards and italians would probably want to do a competition to show off ;)
Side view was wrong for me. It put the Irish and Welsh on the same parent, when in reality one parent has the Irish ancestry and the other has the Welsh. Yes, I know it’s all NW European, but still... also, on an interesting note, the Chromosome painter mostly shows whole chromosomes of a given ethnicity, which is probably inaccurate, and any place I have African or Native American DNA in 23andMe shows up as “unassigned” in Ancestry’s. But those regions actually DO line up!
Side-view in it's current iteration isn't very accurate for me. My mother is 1/2 Mauritian Creole (Mozambican, Malagasy, Indian and Chinese) and 1/2 English, my father is mixed NW European. My mother's side-view is ok, it splits her 50/50 pretty well so it's straightforward to tell which is which as her mum was pretty straightforward Southwestern English for as far back as we can find. Side-view tries to attribute my African, Indian and Chinese to both parents but my father doesn't have any of this. Viewing my DNA painting on Ancestry and comparing it to my 23andme one (which is 2 parent-phased) on DNA Painter I can see where it is wrong. The African, Indian and Chinese segments attributed to my father should be on the maternal side. Then I have large amounts of Sweden & Denmark which the side-view says are maternal that should be on the paternal side ( which on 23andme are French & German) these are often in the same position as the misattributed segments of African, Indian and Chinese DNA and are just switched. Interestingly, the Sweden & Denmark segments on Ancestry and French & German on 23andme are where my paternal Frisian matches are. I wouldn't say this is just an Ancestry problem as 23andme had the same problem pre-parental phasing and FTDNA also has this problem. As they use side-view to then split the DNA matches it means that our "by parent" grouping is not that accurate. My mum's for example only has 81 paternal, 515 maternal and 17,659 unassigned. Out of her 81 paternal, only 13 are actually paternal, and the other 68 are maternal. It's possible that some of those 68 matches could be "both sides" matches as the British were in the areas where my mother's Paternal ancestors were from and there's a distant connection that I can't find due to a lack of records on the Mauritian side. Yet somehow even after the refresh when they grouped more matches into sides, they were still only able to separate such a small % of her matches and with such a low accuracy. They couldn't even put her grand-niece into the both sides group or her 2nd cousins which are mostly maternal 2nd cousins that I've already figured out on my own. The problem for us is that most of her genuinely paternal matches are likely to be smaller more distant matches due to where the matches are coming from, not many people testing from the Mauritian Creole community so most of our matches tend to be from ancestors that are likely from before the family arrived in Mauritius (slavery, indentured labour etc) so probably talking between the 1700s to mid-1800s or even earlier and most of my Mauritian side of my tree is stuck in the 1840s-1860s. Her maternal matches seem to have a higher degree of accuracy, I don't know whether it's just there are a lot more of them or because my research is much more fleshed out on that side? Or I haven't found any obviously paternal matches on that side due to the above? Not sure. For my matches the ones that I'd already assigned myself Ancestry broadly agrees, there are only a few where they think I've got it wrong. Those look like they are potential "both sides" matches with my father's side having the MRCA and my mother being related more distantly on the matches other side, this is the case for some of the matches I've found already, for example, a 2nd cousin 3x removed on my father's side who is also a 6th cousin on my mother's side. A large amount of my matches are also unassigned, not as bad as my mum's about 1/3 each for maternal, paternal and unassigned. So they still have over 4k matches to assign in my case. I'd say the accuracy for myself is higher than my mother's but there are still a lot of matches that belong to the other side. I think it has a lot of potential and I'm looking forward to how it develops further though, especially if it is picking up distant European relatives on my Mum's Mauritian Creole side. We suspected there would be some European likely either French or British.
I believe Ancestry DNA is one of the better companies but I see that their data regarding the French is weak. I have seen results of Cajuns, French Canadians and Louisiana Creoles and they often come back as no French or very little French, even though they get the communities right. I read that DNA testing is banned in France and these tests cannot be sold in France. Maybe this why the "French" results are iffy and the database is probably not strong.
To be honest, I think they have this problem in a few areas. They seem to have a hard time with Southern European as well. They keep going back and forth with my Italian/Sardinian and Balkan. The truth is I'm all three of these lol but they can't seem to get the percentages right. My Balkan went from 30% to 3%! That's a huge difference! We'll see what happens with this update.
I have French ancestry... I have a French surname. The thing is, Franco blood runs deep in all Germanic peoples. France, Benelux, Netherlands, Germany, the border region of Spain, Scotland, southern England... The French traded and explored and intermixed for centuries. French is more of a culture than an ethnicity at this point. I think of it more like Egypt. Most Egyptians are not ethnically Egyptian... but don't tell them they're not Egyptian. Most Native Americans in the US are more "Broadly Northwest European" than Native American... but don't try to deny them their culture. Their database is strong. They're doing the right thing by not blowing out their confidence. The issue is that French migration/invasion/etc is also strong. The French people just simply have not been an isolated population historically which means they don't have extremely well defined SNiPs to look for. AND THAT is why its so important to do a family tree.
@@Chaotic_Pixie The same can be said of the Italians, Spanish, English, Germans etc. but Ancestry DNA seems very good at picking up those groups in DNA. With the French they are not that accurate. Not as fined tuned.
Side view is way accuratte for me. My outright French is tiny. My search angels say it should be higher because my Paternal great grand parents were French and my dad would be at least 1/4. They think its hiding in my European though.
Dieppe, Rouen, and Le Havre, France are all in the area defined as England and northwest European. Several of my French Canadian ancestors are from those places. My grandfather was the son of 2 French Canadian immigrants to the United States. I should show about 25% French but I only show 7%.
France is a hodgepodge of many european strains of dna. Also, it trongly protects it’s citizen’s rights to anonymity and medical information, including dna. They do have good online records though, son genealogy is a better route than dna
Its completely possible you inherited more on that side from your grandmother as its random what half of each parent's dna you get. Roughly a 5th of my ancestors are from Normandy and in addition to being 60% "French" I also have 7% NW europe, 4% Danish and 2% Germanic. The NW europe and Danish especially are common for Norman ancestry. Of course you gotta take the percentages into account. About 15% of New France settlers were from Normandy, with the rest coming from other parts of France, so its not uncommon to see, Celtic, Basque or even Iberian.
My husband's was surprising easy to figure out. English/Irish on one side, English/Scottish/Welsh/Bengal on the other. There was no question on my kids. English/Irish/Scottish/Welsh on one side and my side German/Baltic.
My sideview doesn’t make sense in a particular spot........ My maternal great-grandfather was 100% Italian which means I should have Italian DNA from moms side.... however, my sideview shows that my Italian DNA (both north & south Italy) are from my father.... however, there is no Italians on his side of the family - they’re German & German Jewish & Arabic... so how’s the Italian (5% northern, 7% southern Italy) registering as his with 0% coming from mom’s??? 💁😂😂
I don't believe their inheritance tool is very accurate, it was at first but after the update it went way off. I have Native American ancestry on both sides with the most on my mom's side, tell me how can they move my Indigenous America North totally to my dad's side leave my mom's side with none eventhough on their chromosome painting the largest chunk is still on my mom's side same with 23andme the largest segment is on my mom's side
Can you please do a video discussing people of Dinaric race origins? In my opinion it’s one of the most fascinating human sub-race out there. Dinaric people are now confirmed by new studies the tallest people on the planet so I figure it would be interesting to find out why
I find the sides inheritance tool pretty innacurate, at least in my case. My parents have very different genetic profiles and the tool mixed it all up. My mom has no African and a little of Indigenous dna and it says she has no Indigenous dna and a little of African, my father have a lot of African in all calculators and it appears as same as me and a little bit of indigenous (he has no indigenous dna).
It's so far off it's pathetic. They started of right on and kept getting worse with each update. When this came out, it was almost as far off as my heritage which said i was 6% spanish and my bio daugher 44% spanish. Family tree was bad too. Ancestry and 23 and me were almost the same until ancestry kept changing. 23 ans me proved almost exactly right finding bio family and history which ancesty used to be
nothing about SNiPs is "accurate'... its all based on confidence intervals as the size of databases. The goal is to help find genetic matches (WHICH ARE ACCURATE) so that you can confirm your family tree. You should go fiddle with the confidence interval. Mathematically, 95% confidence is generally what's accepted for quality research. Select that, and it'll boil down most peoples' DNA to simply "Broadly European", "Broadly African", or "Broadly Asian" and be done with it. Ancestry hasn't messed up your DNA. I promise you that.
@@Chaotic_Pixie I imagine Frenchmen would get inaccurate results. But people of English, Welsh, Scottish or Irish descent, British peoples and British descent skeletons are the most genetically studied people ever. Millions of Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders of British isles descent and proper British people and millions of Brits, when tested, is extremely accurate. And even though Scandinavians haven't taken as much systematic testing, they're are also very accurate from how many Brits have their dna and how similar they are. I can say that British and Scandinavian descent people have very accurate results.
It’s pretty easy : France is not an ethnicity . It’s a mix of populations since forever. Like ' usa' is not a single ethnicity. Even in very long family li es back to the cavemen in Dordogne, homo sapiens mixed with neanderthal, etc... and in not very chronological order, Celts, franc invasions, mongol invasions, roman invasions, maur invasions, scandinavian raids, pilgrims, gypsies, english intermarriages, immigration through wars and refugees, (since the middle ages quite frequently) trade and economic possibilities, basque, italian, corsican, bretons, germans, flemmish, Northmen... Even a friend of mine, invred since the middle ages in some backward marshes (his words not mine) have the olive skin and wavy hair of a mahgreb person, his cousins blue eyes straight hair, Oh a very nice mutt, strong genetic diversity even in his backward neck of the woods where maybe 7 to 8 surnames appear in cemeteries that go up to Francois 1ers time if not Charlemagne....
Delving into your family's genealogy will get you the information about your ethnicity more cheaply than a dna test. I've researched every branch on my family tree and know I have Irish ,English ,Scottish and Welsh ancestry as well as a small fraction of German and Dutch
No it doesn't, Einstein. I have German ancestry on several branches that were not from Germany. I have great grandparents that were German but from Bohemia, and great great grandparents from Alsace France that were German. I have no French or Czech DNA. If I was doing what you're doing, I'd be assuming I'm French and Bohemian.
11 months later... I scanned the comments...maybe I missed someone mentioning this, but there was an influx of Irish orphans into Quebec in the 1850's, due to the potato famine. They were adopted by French Canadians.... some taking on the names of the adopting parents, while others maintained their Irish names. This could also be a reason for the lack of French DNA. The parent/grandparent being French Canadian would be totally possible.
Ancestry has like 100.000 ethnic Frenchmen tested ever. From Metropolitan France. They're database reference point is unimaginably small.
Thought it was against the law in France to do DNA?
@@esterherschkovich6499 It is. Its debated how actively they crack down on it.
@@esterherschkovich6499 source...? Why ..?
Probably French because they are afraid of crimes being exposed with all the Jesuit Freemasons.
France is notorious for infidelity.
For the first one, if the ancesters came from the region "britany" in France, it is always listed as irish/scothish/english It's the celtic part of France.
No, Normandy
For the commenters here, how far from Brittany is Normandy? What human events happened in their general geographical area?
My sideview is accurate because my mom had native American ancestry from New Mexico USA and Iberian and My father was 100%european ... so the break down was easy to divide.
My daughter's result said she got a small amount of Balkans from me. My results show zero Balkan. Makes me wonder.
Sideview was actually pretty accurate as my dad has tested so I can compare his test and my Sideview. They were both almost identical
Latest ancestry update just came through for me and seems to be getting more accurate each round. In April I got 3% Germanic on just mom's side when it'd never given me that ethnicity before. Now in August it shows 11% total, with 2% from dad and 9% from mom. My Dad's side is French Canadian but I had found one German 4th GG. Mom's side has Ulster county Dutch.
You helped me with my husband's mysterious Jewish ancestry in your second episode of answering questions. Since then, with this side view, that color showed up vividly on his father's line, which is what we have suspected. I followed your other suggestions too, but so far have not found any paper proof that the GGGrandmother was anything but a perfectly loyal Methodist. I'm still working on it, though, and who knows when it might all become a lot clearer. THANK you so much for your videos.
I found it helpful. When compared to my family tree the info made sense, plus I’m a sucker for graphs 😂
I knew right away which one was my paternal, and which was my maternal, because my dad has a lot of Irish, and a little bit of non-Northwest European.
I was really impressed with side view. My four grandparents have very different ethnicities so it was easy to verify how they lined up. I have some Aegean dna and this gives a clue to which Italian line that came from.
My side view was very helpful and easy to figure out because my Grandma on my Dad's side was Mexican so I know the side with the indigenous, spanish and Portuguese was my fathers!
A QUESTION. I am currently preparing a presentation for our family history group involving NPE and a family legend. The legend suggests mum's paternal line is Levers no illegitimacy. My research suggests illegitimacy and that we are descended from a John Levers a shoemaker born in Greasley, Nottingham. With more Parish Records online I have traced his ancestry. Unfortunately I was unable to test the Y/paternal lineage. I just have Mum's DNA on Ancestry. There are a few Levers in Greasley in the trees on DNA cousins' trees: however these are on Mum's maternal/parent 2 side. One is not assigned. The not assigned one also has the surname Meakin. The only other hit I have with Meakin in on our mitochondrial lineage which I traced to the Meakins in Greasley: the only other hit in that area in my family tree. The question is: 'if we have Levers on Mum's maternal and paternal side; how would that affect the side view and could it lead to an unassigned side view if they are the same levers family?'
My paternal grandfather was 3/4 French Canadian. Re, to the English & NW Europe, Scotland & etc., 1066 happened. There has been cross mingling since across the channel. My FC is the previously mentioned groups as well as my French. I think Ancestry has been getting better each update. BTW, there’s going to be an update by the end of the month.
The Sideview feature is nice. My folks are very different. My father was Western European & my German (central & east European). The only thing they had in common was Norway.
I’m glad they got a Chromosome Painter too.
Many French settlers to New France were from st Malo, Normandy. Normandy has ties to england and even scandinavia.
My grandma’s family is from Alsace Lorraine. They’ve considered themselves German since at least the 1840’s, when they migrated to Texas.
I have German ancestors from there, too. They spoke German and had German names, as is common in that part of France. My DNA shows no French. (As expected)
France in itself is multiple sub ethnicities having obe common language. The Swiss and Belgians haven’t yet assimilated into one language. But it’s the same idea. Hodgepodge
Re: the guy looking for French DNA: If he clicks on the arrow to view the England NE Europe it covers a LOT more of France then on the overview view. A LOT more!
I found sideview helpful to confirm which side of the family a couple family stories came from because my mom tested but I don't have access to my dad anymore. I have memories of stories growing up but never knew which side of the family they came from... but now I can see for myself. I also think its super cool that the side view shows that I inherited all my Norwegian DNA from one parent thanks to recombination... we have matching amounts. Without side view, I would have assumed I got some from both parents. The one thing I do find frustrating though is that my mother HAS tested... and I've labeled her as being my mother on my matches but in side view, it won't tell me which parent is her. I'm lucky that I seem to have inherited some Baltic from my father since she has none so that's my only way of telling. I'm hoping I labeled them right. That's all.
Yes, I've been finding it helpful because my mum's father is basically an unknown (the name we had is slightly wrong, the age was slightly wrong, the only thing right was where he grew up lol). Like you, I was able to test mum but not my dad (he passed away before they became affordable).
We had q vague idea from my tree work hypothesis that her father was half Swedish, but hadn't been able to prove it. Then mum showed at 30%, my brother & I at 24% (it's first time we've read the same amount, it's been as low as 18% and as high as 26% at one point as they finesse the database), so we weren't sure if we were getting a lot more than expected or if Dad had some.
Side view has shown me that not only is all our Swedish from my Mum, but all my Irish & Scottish is from my dad. The Irish I expected, but I have absolutely no idea where the 15% Scottish comes from when his parents were very deeply rooted in the South of England with a tiniest blip of Irish. I had expected some Scottish from mum as her dad's side are from the borders, but nope. Mum shows as 5% but it also shows she hasn't given me any of hers and my bro hasn't got any at all. So I'm wondering if it's correctly assigned it or if it's been able to precisely assign that on mine but on theirs it's part of their "English & NW european" percentage.
On top of that, it shows that all her Scandinavian percentages comes from her paternal grandmother, which finally proves my hypothesis. It's only taken 18 years lol.
Anyway, it's been fascinating and also helpful for sorting matches. I'm glad I'm not the only one finding them useful. Now, if only more people would attach a tree to their DNA lol.
Ancestry have update again this week now u can really see what side matches are on
I have tested my late father on a couple of sites ancestry & familytreedna. I’ve tested my brothers, mom, myself & all the nieces & nephews. I find it interesting
I’ll get that list updated. The Burgesses were a confusing bunch.
I’ve updated it and removed some of the more confusing things. Should be a little more straightforward.
Sideview was helpful to me because I'm adopted and through my half-sister, I knew that my mother's family was Albrecht (I don't know if I spelled it right) Albanians that migrated to Sicily during the Ottoman invasion. I have no idea who my biological father is so it was cool to be able to see my results separated in that way even before I could label them maternal and paternal.
HI! Really like this video..just a note about how to pronounce Québec. It isn't QUAbec, it is pronounced like KAYbec.
I also had a French-Canadian ancestor who doesn't show up in my DNA.
I have three grandparents from French Canada and am 1.3 % from there.
France is a hodgepodge of many european strains of dna. Also, it trongly protects it’s citizen’s rights to anonymity and medical information, including dna. They do have good online records though, son genealogy is a better route than dna
Ps same for germany. For obvious historical reasons, keeping tabs on the ethnicity of their population is quite frowned upon.
I have a few obituaries for the children of Israel Fairchild. He used the name Aaron and was in the Census once in Chautauqua County, NY. He is the only relative in 11 generations with an unknown burial. Jean Fairchild Gilmore blog has 4 FREE eBooks with indices for Fairchilds in the USA. We started writing in 1978. I have not hired a genealogist. I took 2 courses from BYU in 1978. My Mother’s family has 7 published volumes. David A. Avant, Jr. wrote 6. I did research and discovered a genealogy where my grandfather was born. A teacher who sold encyclopedias wrote 100 pages. I know the cousins who got married and all their stories possible.
With the Potato Famine, quite a number of Irish went to Canada too & some of them went to the province of Quebec & many of the assimilated into that culture including French & came to see themselves as French Canadian not as just Irish - & I'm sure fore economic reasons there were English, Scottish & Welsh who also did it too..
The irish more readily learned ffrench and mixed married from the catholic church. Also they both were lower in society. Scott welsh and english maintqined their seperate communities jntil later. They did rape french women though.
Ancestry is listing Ireland and a small amount of Nigeria on opposite sides. But the Chromosome Browser says they are on the same side. I have always seen the African on my 6th Chromosome. Now I am confused but the side with the Spanish has African Haplogroups and many Spanish spelling of their names back 5 generations and more.
With the last question about the French on both sides but not showing on one, maybe he really didn't inherit any from that side. A good example is my fathers full sister has dna from regions I don't have any from, which my father may have received and I didn't receive any of it from him or he may not have received it to pass down to me. I do have very mixed ancestry with 13 regions, 7 being outside of Europe but I am definitely a very pale white american ( I literally turn bright red anytime I exercise or my blood gets to flowing). My ancestry is very mixed and therefore I believe there's a lot of ancestors from places that will not show up in my dna because every generation we lose 50% of each of our parents!!!!
Very true, especially with the randomness of recombination, and the fact that his French ancestry is quite distant, it may be possible that he only inherited segments from that French ancestry on one side and not the other.
Side view was very helpful for me because my mum was French Canadian and my dad half French half German. I got 64% French and then a mix of English/Irish/Scottish and then Germanic. According to side view my mum gave me 50% French and my dad gave me 14% French, which I think is pretty accurate because half his French ancestors were from Brittany.
But it was helpful to divide the French (I also am pretty confident the 50% is from her because my closer maternal DNA matches all scored 92-97% French).
Ancestry's side view was pretty accurate for me.
The GEDMATCH cluster has help me with my family tree because I had two family members with the Long last name and it helped me find and 8th cousin on one side so it will help further separate both lines.
Thank you for answering my question, where is my French. I have researched my French Ancestors. Alot of them are from the Brittany region in France. There are also some near Spain and southern France.
I do have ancestors from Belgium and one line traced back to Holland. I have gotten my updated results and I have 3% France, 4% Germain, 18% Northwestern Europe, 21% Scotland and 53% Ireland. I am starting to understand where the French is hiding. My Grandmother from Northern England I believe has the 3% Northern Ireland along with Scotland and England.
My grandmother has 30% Danish/Swedish on her father's side when we expected her to be 100% Polish/German/Russia region (because border shifting) on both sides. All other ethnic percentages make sense.
when a person's paper trail show French ancestors for both parents, but the side view only shows it on one side, it could mean the tester didn't get the dna related to France ethnicity from one parent as they only get about 50% of their dna from each parent. I like the side view feature and the recent update (beta) where they show which chromosome the ethnicity is located. Now they need to show with a person's matches which chromosome and ethnicity they are using to determining the match.
0:47 Scotland is in Britain
Technically Scotland is in Great (sic) Britain. Britain refers to England, and Wales, whereas Great (sic) Britain refers to England, Wales, and Scotland. United Kingdom refers to England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland.
I was really wondering how accurate it was, because they have a similar feature on Embark DNA for dogs, and it definitely does not work.
Is there anyway to search cousins by where their ancestors came from (match)?
Regarding Ancestry Sideview: With every update, my father's and my 1% African DNA switches between several Northern and West Coastal African Countries. (It's pretty weird, but 1% Africa is always there after each update. My brother used to have it very early on, but his disappeared over the years.) Looking at my father's DNA via his Sideview, I was able to determine this African Ancestry (such that it is) comes from his mother, so in that regard, it helps me know what possible paths to venture down to find the African connection. LOL 🙂
If it’s only 1%, virtually all actual geneticists recommend ignoring it. It’s possibly genetic “static” anyway. Many geneticists (as opposed to genealogists) say anything under about 5% (some say 10-15%) is within the range of error and is only worth considering if it helps you with your paper trail.
As an ethnicity estimate on its own, take it with a huge grain of salt. At that small a percentage, even if it’s valid, it’s probably too far back in the past for you to find identifiable ancestors anyway.
You also may want to test with several companies to get a sense of how much ethnicity estimates can vary from company to company. It’s a good reality check, if nothing else.
@@Historian212 well then how should I look at the 12 different ethnic zones I have with 2% and 1%. There’s 16% of my DNA there.
My Ancestry sideview is pretty darned accurate based on what I know about my genealogy.
Same here
thats how i differentiated the side view for me because my father was half polish
Sideview can work really well for otherwise Europeans like me who have 2-3% African ethnicity. I have it on all 3 tests I did and if you adjust the percentage up to 90% on 23andMe, it's still there. Sideview says my Nigerian is on my mother's side and also my Cameroon-Congo-Bantu.
For the first person, i would look at their DNA and say that i need to see the tree. There were English people who emigrated into french canada and whose names became Franconized. If your ancestors were truly French-French Canadian, they would certainly show French DNA, so i think that this persons DNA either shows a Scotts Irish Emigration based French canadian ancestry or at least a partial circumstances like that, which would allow for genetic recombination and chance to allow for the french to just have not been hereditarily passed. if you see alot of surnames like Martin and Robert, they may have been plausibly English
Mine seemed pretty accurate like for example both of my parents have around half German ancestry and I’m half as well and it says I inherit around a quarter German from both of my which is reflected on my results.
Remember that with Ancestry DNA information, the DNA peters out at about the 5th generation. So, one could have French ancestors back to the 1500s who later intermix with other nationalities, thus the DNA is so diluted that it will not show up in the present day side view.
A guy claims that Ancestry DNA has found one specific ancestor 5 generations back? Is that possible? I can understand that DNA could point to one family name, but, he claims of all the people in that one family the DNA at Ancestry proved he descended from one specific brother of one specific family. I kind of doubt this, but, I don't know how Ancestry works.
When's the Ancestry August Update?
It should be on the 17th.
@@JediSimpson Yay can't wait!
My results are fine. More interested right now in the ethnicity update that's supposed to come this month. I'm annoyed that Ancestry isn't giving a preview of what the 8 new regions are going to be. I would rather know if there is some chance my results will be affected, aside from a possible adjustment in the percentages of the regions I'm already a part of, than not.
I'll just add that in my case, Side View is very accurate. It has helped a lot because the only Irish ancestry I have is on my father's side, and that is exactly what the tool shows, and that helps me with my sorting of matches. The percentage makes perfect sense, too. My father should be about 25% Irish with an Irish grandmother (her mother was supposed to be French Canadian, but her mother's mother was supposed to have been Irish, and I'm not convinced of the French ancestry yet. I have 11% Irish (according to Ancestry). The results mirror what I know from my tree. I have a great great grandfather who was 100% Irish. Oh, yes. Knowing that my dad had Irish ancestry helped me figure out parent 1 and parent 2 as you pointed out with Mr. Beat's results.
I know both parents and my mom has tested at 90....mine were spot on.
I understand about the Alsace Lorraine region. One of my great great grandfathers was from that region. We found his birth record (born in Roeschwoog). His record was in French. He moved to the US before Germany took control of the region.
How far back do records go for US naturalization/ citizenship? Most, if not all of the ancestors on my Mom’s side of the family arrived between the late 1600’s to the late 1700’s. Too far back, I assume?
It varies by location, with most records starting around the late 18th century and early 19th century, but some records do go back a bit further. www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/United_States_Naturalization_and_Citizenship_Online_Genealogy_Records
I work a lot of French Canadians and Ancestry often doesn’t distinguish the French as such
France is a hodgepodge of many european strains of dna. Also, it trongly protects it’s citizen’s rights to anonymity and medical information, including dna. They do have good online records though, son genealogy is a better route than dna
Ps same for germany. For obvious historical reasons, keeping tabs on the ethnicity of their population is quite frowned upon.
My sideview was easy to differentiate Dad’s side Eastern European (Ukraine), Baltic & European Jewish, Mum’s side (English, Scottish & Welsh).
Had both my parents tested by Ancestry, side view was completely wrong.
I don't pretend to know a whole about DNA results and the values, but I do know things just don't jive. I do know that "parent 2" is definitely my mother since all my Germanic is on her side. On my father's most of my Scottish is from his side. But what's confusing is how I only show to have 1% Irish on my mother's side, but I have several Irish immigrants from both sides, much more than just 1%. That's why I know something's not kosher with test results.
My mom's maternal grandfather's father was born in Quebec and his mother in France, Ancestry has my mom French at 2%, but can range between 0-18%, and my dna has no French. On 23andme my mom's French and German is 17.8% and I have 7.6%.
France is a hodgepodge of many european strains of dna. Also, it trongly protects it’s citizen’s rights to anonymity and medical information, including dna. They do have good online records though, son genealogy is a better route than dna
My parents passed a long time a go when I was a child, but it's funny to see Sideview because I only inherited Ashkenazi Jewish dna from my mom (I don't know if she would of had some local populations mixed in, as 100% anything is so rare- her mom's dad was polish jewish and mom's mom was russian/belarussian jewish; her dad's family were Polish Jews). The "diversity"; other European countries that show up; are all from my dad. My mom was 1st gen. American.
The jewish populations in eastern europe you cite were quite exclusive in their intermarriage.
In Spain, Portugal and lesser degree’in France and Italy, they converted by force (inquisition) or emigrated, or intermarried willingly (well documented in France) though there were segregated periods (second ww of course...)
Ethnicity Inhertance was completely wrong in my DNA. It showed one of my parents having no English DNA when I have strong DNA on both sides.
It can't be wrong.
It means who you got your ancestry from, it doesn't mean what your parents are
French people can have Scottish ancestors. Most famous example: Charles de Gaulle. The reason is easily found: "Auld Alliance". Scottish (and Irish) soldiers in France were normal.
I don't see what sideview is? I found a circle showing 95% northern Japanese and 5% Southern. Is this the same thing?
Holy F! Just about jumped out of my seat at your intro lol!
What the side view did for me was give me a good chuckle over something my Gaelic speaking grandmother used to always tell me. There's not a drop of English blood in ya, she'd say. Turns out the only drops are the drops she introduced through my grandfather. LOL
I love side view. Since only my dad has Asian ethnicity I knew immediately who was who
I got a question if I connect a family tree and connect to relatives will my dna ethnicity percentages change
Ciao sono Kevin ti sequo sempre sei bravo complimenti.io ho un problema ho molte corrispondenze dai paesi balcanici ma io non ho etnia balcanica ho greco e italiano meridionale sardo e medio orientale e pure loro hanno queste due etnie greco e medio orientale poi loro hanno anche Asia meridionale occidentale e brevi e Nord Europa est ecc ecc.e poi con questo gruppo abbiamo una triangolazione sullo stesso segmento.io ho costruito il mio albero ma mi manca la parte di mia nonna materna che il padre non si sa forse lei lo sapeva ma noi non lo sappiamo e anche sua madre la mia bisnonna non aveva il padre.volevo domandarti forse c'è una connessione tra questo fatto che ti ho spiegato? E poi anche per la mia vicinanza tra i paesi balcanici io sono del sud Italia Puglia .geazie
My parents have similar backgrounds...and Sideview has not been helpful. I can't entice either of my very elderly parents to DNA test. They are both in their 90's. Comparing my results to 1st cousins doesn't match Sideview, either.
is england and ne europe anglo or briton or a mix?
I haven’t seen a chromosome painter within Ancestry, and haven’t heard that one is coming soon. Would love to know the source of your info on this. It’s definitely on a lot of users’ wishlist.
This is not the same as a chromosome browser, which allows DNA painting. Chromosome painting is just painting the ethnicity admixture across the chromosomes (like how 23andMe has had it for years). support.ancestry.com/s/article/Chromosome-Painter?language=en_US
I dislike the side view and find them completely inaccurate. I have Scottish and African ancestry on both sides but it attributes the entire 43% Scottish to my mother and my entire 35% African to my father. The Irish is given to my father, yet based on my ancestry that is my mother's side.
The only thing French about Canada is the Quebec requirement for language. Half the French were run out of Canada early. Many Settled in Louisiana .
Actually, that was the Acadian deportation, not Quebec.
I can trace about 70% of my ancestors to France. My paternal line came here in the 1620's and my maternal line in the 1740's, right before everything went to shit
When it says Sweden and Denmark does it mean I'm a mixture of both???? I'm 55% Sweden and Denmark and 8%norway
It means they are geneticallly the same ethnic group
It is against the law in France to have your DNA tested, so there is little or no base group to compare to.
What? Why? I was wondering why there were no distinct French genetic communities.
France strongly protects it’s citizen’s rights to anonymity and medical information, including dna. If an insurance company or bad actors in government knew your genetic predisposition to illness, or your family secrets....
Or sperm donors have a right to anonymity (it’s not a money making operation because body parts and fluids cannot be sold - so you can give anonymously)
They do have good online records though, so genealogy is a better route than dna
Ps same for germany. For obvious historical reasons, keeping tabs on the ethnicity of their population is quite frowned upon.
It’s EU laws of safekeeping of data, and french laws of non resale or non divulgation of data to’third parties that are stopping the companies from having a free for all in europe).
Do you find Ancestry's new Chromosome Painter (Beta) helpful? Since it does not link to matches, I'm not sure how it can be used.
Just because his ancestors came to Quebec and settled there, doesn't mean they came from France! I'm 83% France and can trace many of my ancestors to France specifically!
When is Ancestry going to go back further than 1700 in the Regions and communities? All of my ancestors on both sides have been in the US since well before 1700, except for one that came from Gigha Island in Scotland to the US in 1755. Also, I find it frustrating that I have no communities or specific regions (other than UK and NW Europe) in Europe.
Eu (europe) strongly protects it’s citizen’s rights to anonymity and medical information, including dna. If an insurance company or bad actors in government knew your genetic predisposition to illness, or your family secrets....
genealogy is a better route than dna
For obvious historical reasons, keeping tabs on the ethnicity of their population is quite frowned upon.
It’s EU laws of safekeeping of data, laws of non resale or non divulgation of data to third parties that are stopping the companies from having a free for all in europe).
yes, yes and yes, I have French Canadian DNA and mine and my dad from which the French DNA comes from shows nothing even though he has French Canadian and French American communities
France is and was a hub of populations since forever, so there is no ’cheese, bread and wine’ loving gene. Yikes the spaniards and italians would probably want to do a competition to show off ;)
Side view was wrong for me. It put the Irish and Welsh on the same parent, when in reality one parent has the Irish ancestry and the other has the Welsh. Yes, I know it’s all NW European, but still... also, on an interesting note, the Chromosome painter mostly shows whole chromosomes of a given ethnicity, which is probably inaccurate, and any place I have African or Native American DNA in 23andMe shows up as “unassigned” in Ancestry’s. But those regions actually DO line up!
What are your thoughts about the chromosome painter, and is it useful with other sites that have a chromosome browser?
Mine was quite accurate
Side-view in it's current iteration isn't very accurate for me. My mother is 1/2 Mauritian Creole (Mozambican, Malagasy, Indian and Chinese) and 1/2 English, my father is mixed NW European. My mother's side-view is ok, it splits her 50/50 pretty well so it's straightforward to tell which is which as her mum was pretty straightforward Southwestern English for as far back as we can find. Side-view tries to attribute my African, Indian and Chinese to both parents but my father doesn't have any of this. Viewing my DNA painting on Ancestry and comparing it to my 23andme one (which is 2 parent-phased) on DNA Painter I can see where it is wrong. The African, Indian and Chinese segments attributed to my father should be on the maternal side. Then I have large amounts of Sweden & Denmark which the side-view says are maternal that should be on the paternal side ( which on 23andme are French & German) these are often in the same position as the misattributed segments of African, Indian and Chinese DNA and are just switched. Interestingly, the Sweden & Denmark segments on Ancestry and French & German on 23andme are where my paternal Frisian matches are. I wouldn't say this is just an Ancestry problem as 23andme had the same problem pre-parental phasing and FTDNA also has this problem.
As they use side-view to then split the DNA matches it means that our "by parent" grouping is not that accurate. My mum's for example only has 81 paternal, 515 maternal and 17,659 unassigned. Out of her 81 paternal, only 13 are actually paternal, and the other 68 are maternal. It's possible that some of those 68 matches could be "both sides" matches as the British were in the areas where my mother's Paternal ancestors were from and there's a distant connection that I can't find due to a lack of records on the Mauritian side. Yet somehow even after the refresh when they grouped more matches into sides, they were still only able to separate such a small % of her matches and with such a low accuracy. They couldn't even put her grand-niece into the both sides group or her 2nd cousins which are mostly maternal 2nd cousins that I've already figured out on my own. The problem for us is that most of her genuinely paternal matches are likely to be smaller more distant matches due to where the matches are coming from, not many people testing from the Mauritian Creole community so most of our matches tend to be from ancestors that are likely from before the family arrived in Mauritius (slavery, indentured labour etc) so probably talking between the 1700s to mid-1800s or even earlier and most of my Mauritian side of my tree is stuck in the 1840s-1860s. Her maternal matches seem to have a higher degree of accuracy, I don't know whether it's just there are a lot more of them or because my research is much more fleshed out on that side? Or I haven't found any obviously paternal matches on that side due to the above? Not sure.
For my matches the ones that I'd already assigned myself Ancestry broadly agrees, there are only a few where they think I've got it wrong. Those look like they are potential "both sides" matches with my father's side having the MRCA and my mother being related more distantly on the matches other side, this is the case for some of the matches I've found already, for example, a 2nd cousin 3x removed on my father's side who is also a 6th cousin on my mother's side. A large amount of my matches are also unassigned, not as bad as my mum's about 1/3 each for maternal, paternal and unassigned. So they still have over 4k matches to assign in my case. I'd say the accuracy for myself is higher than my mother's but there are still a lot of matches that belong to the other side.
I think it has a lot of potential and I'm looking forward to how it develops further though, especially if it is picking up distant European relatives on my Mum's Mauritian Creole side. We suspected there would be some European likely either French or British.
I believe Ancestry DNA is one of the better companies but I see that their data regarding the French is weak. I have seen results of Cajuns, French Canadians and Louisiana Creoles and they often come back as no French or very little French, even though they get the communities right. I read that DNA testing is banned in France and these tests cannot be sold in France. Maybe this why the "French" results are iffy and the database is probably not strong.
To be honest, I think they have this problem in a few areas. They seem to have a hard time with Southern European as well. They keep going back and forth with my Italian/Sardinian and Balkan. The truth is I'm all three of these lol but they can't seem to get the percentages right. My Balkan went from 30% to 3%! That's a huge difference! We'll see what happens with this update.
I have French ancestry... I have a French surname. The thing is, Franco blood runs deep in all Germanic peoples. France, Benelux, Netherlands, Germany, the border region of Spain, Scotland, southern England... The French traded and explored and intermixed for centuries. French is more of a culture than an ethnicity at this point. I think of it more like Egypt. Most Egyptians are not ethnically Egyptian... but don't tell them they're not Egyptian. Most Native Americans in the US are more "Broadly Northwest European" than Native American... but don't try to deny them their culture.
Their database is strong. They're doing the right thing by not blowing out their confidence. The issue is that French migration/invasion/etc is also strong. The French people just simply have not been an isolated population historically which means they don't have extremely well defined SNiPs to look for. AND THAT is why its so important to do a family tree.
@@Chaotic_Pixie The same can be said of the Italians, Spanish, English, Germans etc. but Ancestry DNA seems very good at picking up those groups in DNA. With the French they are not that accurate. Not as fined tuned.
To be honest wouldn’t most Western European DNA be fairly similar?
@@kudjoeadkins-battle2502 I think northwestern and southwestern are considered different ethnic groups.
Side view is way accuratte for me. My outright French is tiny. My search angels say it should be higher because my Paternal great grand parents were French and my dad would be at least 1/4. They think its hiding in my European though.
It's a bit confusing to me still.
Dieppe, Rouen, and Le Havre, France are all in the area defined as England and northwest European. Several of my French Canadian ancestors are from those places. My grandfather was the son of 2 French Canadian immigrants to the United States. I should show about 25% French but I only show 7%.
France is a hodgepodge of many european strains of dna. Also, it trongly protects it’s citizen’s rights to anonymity and medical information, including dna. They do have good online records though, son genealogy is a better route than dna
Its completely possible you inherited more on that side from your grandmother as its random what half of each parent's dna you get.
Roughly a 5th of my ancestors are from Normandy and in addition to being 60% "French" I also have 7% NW europe, 4% Danish and 2% Germanic. The NW europe and Danish especially are common for Norman ancestry. Of course you gotta take the percentages into account. About 15% of New France settlers were from Normandy, with the rest coming from other parts of France, so its not uncommon to see, Celtic, Basque or even Iberian.
My husband's was surprising easy to figure out. English/Irish on one side, English/Scottish/Welsh/Bengal on the other. There was no question on my kids. English/Irish/Scottish/Welsh on one side and my side German/Baltic.
I've used the Leeds method, very fun and interesting.
There was an emigration of Italians to The Netherlands early 20th century. It's a shame you never cross reference history with the test results.
My sideview doesn’t make sense in a particular spot........
My maternal great-grandfather was 100% Italian which means I should have Italian DNA from moms side.... however, my sideview shows that my Italian DNA (both north & south Italy) are from my father.... however, there is no Italians on his side of the family - they’re German & German Jewish & Arabic... so how’s the Italian (5% northern, 7% southern Italy) registering as his with 0% coming from mom’s??? 💁😂😂
Ashkenazim can come up as Italian on autosomal tests. On PCA charts Ashkenazim cluster near Southern Italy.
I don't believe their inheritance tool is very accurate, it was at first but after the update it went way off. I have Native American ancestry on both sides with the most on my mom's side, tell me how can they move my Indigenous America North totally to my dad's side leave my mom's side with none eventhough on their chromosome painting the largest chunk is still on my mom's side same with 23andme the largest segment is on my mom's side
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That's why 23andme is the best and the only company that phase parent and child ancestry. All u need is one parent!
Can you please do a video discussing people of Dinaric race origins? In my opinion it’s one of the most fascinating human sub-race out there. Dinaric people are now confirmed by new studies the tallest people on the planet so I figure it would be interesting to find out why
From what I can tell from my ancestry and genealogy the Sideview is very accurate...Ancestry seems to be much more accurate than 23andMe
No way, 23andme is vastly more accurate. Hopefully they breakdown NorthWest Europe soon so we can compare to ancestry.
I find the sides inheritance tool pretty innacurate, at least in my case. My parents have very different genetic profiles and the tool mixed it all up. My mom has no African and a little of Indigenous dna and it says she has no Indigenous dna and a little of African, my father have a lot of African in all calculators and it appears as same as me and a little bit of indigenous (he has no indigenous dna).
It's so far off it's pathetic. They started of right on and kept getting worse with each update. When this came out, it was almost as far off as my heritage which said i was 6% spanish and my bio daugher 44% spanish. Family tree was bad too. Ancestry and 23 and me were almost the same until ancestry kept changing. 23 ans me proved almost exactly right finding bio family and history which ancesty used to be
Ancestry isn't totally accurate. I am waiting for their update to see if they mess up my DNA results again.
They got my results massively accurate
nothing about SNiPs is "accurate'... its all based on confidence intervals as the size of databases. The goal is to help find genetic matches (WHICH ARE ACCURATE) so that you can confirm your family tree. You should go fiddle with the confidence interval. Mathematically, 95% confidence is generally what's accepted for quality research. Select that, and it'll boil down most peoples' DNA to simply "Broadly European", "Broadly African", or "Broadly Asian" and be done with it.
Ancestry hasn't messed up your DNA. I promise you that.
@@Chaotic_Pixie I imagine Frenchmen would get inaccurate results. But people of English, Welsh, Scottish or Irish descent, British peoples and British descent skeletons are the most genetically studied people ever. Millions of Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders of British isles descent and proper British people and millions of Brits, when tested, is extremely accurate. And even though Scandinavians haven't taken as much systematic testing, they're are also very accurate from how many Brits have their dna and how similar they are.
I can say that British and Scandinavian descent people have very accurate results.
It’s pretty easy : France is not an ethnicity . It’s a mix of populations since forever. Like ' usa' is not a single ethnicity.
Even in very long family li es back to the cavemen in Dordogne, homo sapiens mixed with neanderthal, etc... and in not very chronological order, Celts, franc invasions, mongol invasions, roman invasions, maur invasions, scandinavian raids, pilgrims, gypsies, english intermarriages, immigration through wars and refugees, (since the middle ages quite frequently) trade and economic possibilities, basque, italian, corsican, bretons, germans, flemmish, Northmen...
Even a friend of mine, invred since the middle ages in some backward marshes (his words not mine) have the olive skin and wavy hair of a mahgreb person, his cousins blue eyes straight hair,
Oh a very nice mutt, strong genetic diversity even in his backward neck of the woods where maybe 7 to 8 surnames appear in cemeteries that go up to Francois 1ers time if not Charlemagne....
Delving into your family's genealogy will get you the information about your ethnicity more cheaply than a dna test.
I've researched every branch on my family tree and know I have Irish ,English ,Scottish and Welsh ancestry as well as a small fraction of German and Dutch
No it doesn't, Einstein. I have German ancestry on several branches that were not from Germany. I have great grandparents that were German but from Bohemia, and great great grandparents from Alsace France that were German. I have no French or Czech DNA. If I was doing what you're doing, I'd be assuming I'm French and Bohemian.
They also have a beta chromosome browser finally! And a new update coming within the next few days. EDIT: ooops You mentioned This already lol
Chromosome browser as in showing match locations or just ethnicity?
Why as a jew do all companies have me a percentage of West Africa?
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