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“Food and Fellowship” LOTR Precon Upgrade | The Command Zone 538 | MTG Lord of the Rings Commander

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    Show Notes:
    Hungry for a higher-powered Commander deck? Come chow down on our $50 upgrade guide for “Food and Fellowship,” the white, black, and green precon from Magic’s latest set, The Lord of the Rings: Tales of Middle-Earth. We’ve got a 10-course menu of cards that’ll spice up your list, plus a compost pile of 10 cards to remove. Find out which hungry, hungry hobbits we think you should start in the command zone to make this deck a true delicacy.
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    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 - Intro
    00:03:40 - Food & Fellowship
    00:04:44 - Frodo & Sam
    00:09:53 - Merry & Pippin
    00:11:32 - Bilbo, Birthday Celebrant
    00:13:52 - Deck Stats
    00:21:10 - Who Should You Run as the Commander?
    00:22:44 - Reprint Value
    00:28:12 - Notable Reprints
    00:32:46 - Best Cards in the Deck
    00:41:13 - Cards to Add
    00:55:36 - Splurge Cards
    00:57:18 - Cards to Take Out
    01:05:44 - How the Deck Plays
    01:09:44 - Outro
    01:12:03 - "The Other Two"
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  • @commandcast
    @commandcast  Рік тому +37

    What do you think of the “Food & Fellowship” precon? Any cards we missed? Any cards we suggested to take out or add that you disagree with?

    • @timmylle
      @timmylle Рік тому +8

      Give your food haste ... Like Fastfood? :D

    • @ebhoverman18
      @ebhoverman18 Рік тому +5

      Scurry oak would be a great add as well. Combos with Rosie Cotton

    • @Illidatch
      @Illidatch Рік тому +13

      As it's already been said: great video, but I am a bit sad that the more flavorful and unique commander pair was disregarded in favor of a pretty standard abzan go wide build with a lifegain subtheme. Especially since Food Matters is such a slam dunk for a Hobbit Commander deck :)

    • @halihalo21
      @halihalo21 Рік тому +4

      @@Illidatchagree and in my opinion there are many strong cards in the new expansion to easily play around food instead of tokens. its insane how much value Gandalf the white gives you in this deck.

    • @fajenthygia5760
      @fajenthygia5760 Рік тому

      I've been working on Wernog/Othelm (with alters to resemble the Terre D'Ange novels) and every card you added is already in that deck. I'd add Cranial Plating, Rite of Oblivion, and Inspiring Statuary. Personally, I'm buying this and splitting the cards between that deck and Biolante-Soul-Sisters.

  • @daanvanderlinden2484
    @daanvanderlinden2484 Рік тому +282

    Seems like everyone is saying the same with wanting to see Frodo & Sam for me personally aswell. Maybe they can make another upgrade video with our demand? Vote + on this

    • @Bogart745
      @Bogart745 Рік тому +5

      Having played the deck, Sam and froto are so much worse than merry and pippin that I can’t see a world in which I play Sam and froto with this precon.

    • @carsonglenn1389
      @carsonglenn1389 Рік тому +2

      @@Bogart745Personally, I play Sam and Frodo in lower power pods because I like the flavor of it more, but Merry and Pippin are just objectively better.

    • @TheTriptamineDream
      @TheTriptamineDream Рік тому +3

      There are a handful of really good upgrades videos already out there, 90% are with the face Commander's.
      I've not seen any with Bilbo, though.

    • @MikeConstantinou
      @MikeConstantinou Рік тому +2

      Would love to see an upgrade focusing on Frodo and Sam!!

    • @thetogtube2
      @thetogtube2 Рік тому

      This🧙‍♂️

  • @JoseAlberto-Jugo
    @JoseAlberto-Jugo Рік тому +192

    I respect wanting to make the best deck out of the possible commanders, but I am also sad because the most *flavorful* option (Sam and Frodo) is the one that most people probably want to build or see an upgrade for.
    We have seen a lot of go wide token decks, I personally wanted a lifegain/food oriented upgrade for a change. Great video nonetheless!

    • @ryansprenkle6356
      @ryansprenkle6356 Рік тому +22

      Yeah....they do this all the time and I'm kind of over it. "I removed all the sea monsters and made it a generic lands deck".....ok so you removed the most exciting part of the deck...cool.

    • @docando402
      @docando402 Рік тому +3

      Yeah and using over half of the 50 dollar budget on one card

    • @brandonspivey5282
      @brandonspivey5282 9 місяців тому +5

      Tbh the most flavorful option is Merry and pippin If you want it to be a full-on food deck. I mean FFS these are the same two knuckleheads who almost got frodo Sam and themselves killed for some tomato sausage and nice crispy bacon

  • @minine6508
    @minine6508 Рік тому +87

    Would have liked to seen the deck built around the face commanders. Unique mechanics could lead to an interesting build, these upgrades just seem like “put in good White token cards, put in good Green token cards, put in good black token cards, ship it.”

  • @KingRorix
    @KingRorix Рік тому +128

    I'm going to be honest, I'm pretty disappointed this didn't use Frodo and Sam for the commanders. Go-wide tokens has been done to death, and Frodo and Sam provide card advantage and ramp, respectively, in the command zone. Merry and Pippin are strong, no doubt, but this had the opportunity to be an upgrade to one of the more unique approaches we've seen from a precon in a while.

    • @rayzur1076
      @rayzur1076 Рік тому +2

      exactly what im saying

    • @jgicantfindaname
      @jgicantfindaname Рік тому +1

      I honestly think Sam and Frodo are just stronger commanders anyway. Sam generates food passively on the turn you play them. Frodo will draw 2 discard 1 consistently, much easier asks then trying to get token artifacts on the opponents turn to maximize Merry. Cheapening food eating has way more potential than a summoning sick overrun.

    • @moneyman88440
      @moneyman88440 Рік тому +1

      Whoever you play as your commander definitly keep the other set in your deck they help eachother pop off hard.

  • @TheSpunYarn
    @TheSpunYarn Рік тому +67

    I'm on team Frodo + Sam personally. I think that direction feels unique, and can still have a lot of room for growth in an upgrade video.

  • @aymanmz
    @aymanmz Рік тому +211

    Was hoping for Sam and Frodo as the commander, cause they really make the deck feel nice to play, even if you aren't necessarily sure how you're going to win

    • @williammorales3362
      @williammorales3362 Рік тому +15

      Look for grazzet mtg, he made a pretty fun frodo and sam build

    • @MrLendran
      @MrLendran Рік тому +11

      You can so easily win with Vito, Marionette Master, Sanguine enchant, Dina, Aetherflux... Playing the other two feels wrong, they're good but they're doing the same as every other deck. Frodo and Sam are better imo plus Frodo is like a Tymna with Sam

    • @aymanmz
      @aymanmz Рік тому +3

      @@williammorales3362 oh will do! I like his upgrades usually

    • @Cy_in
      @Cy_in Рік тому +4

      Arguably Frodo and Sam are better because they have card advantage. I think building around the original heros is a great way to go and makes it even more unique to create around and extort the ring

    • @rayzur1076
      @rayzur1076 Рік тому +1

      i agree

  • @cameronh5559
    @cameronh5559 Рік тому +47

    The ring emblem is bendable so that you can tear the ring art off and give it to your ring bearer. That way you can tell who has it and still have all the abilities in an open area East to read

    • @thesamuraiman
      @thesamuraiman Рік тому +5

      I kinda like it. You can even lay it on top, if you want.

    • @joshuanelson4819
      @joshuanelson4819 Рік тому +3

      i'll be using my actual ring as a token lol whippin out the preciouses

  • @colbylindley4865
    @colbylindley4865 Рік тому +56

    Was really excited for Frodo and Sam because it seems really unique but still fun. Token is probably the best but Frodo/Sam is probably the way I’ll go, wouldn’t mind next time u do a precon upgrade to do the face commanders as well as an alternate/better commander

  • @Birbbato
    @Birbbato Рік тому +67

    I like Frodo a lot more because a 2 mana creature that's dealing 10 damage to the board and churning 2 extra cards in my deck every turn to hit my win cons just feels a lot stronger than a "win con" with summoning sickness that's completely dependent on board state. Gonna be keeping Frodo and Sam.

    • @thegeardude
      @thegeardude Рік тому +6

      Saaaame. I respect what choice he wanted but Im also gonna be playing Frodo and Sam for the pure advantage and food being able to keep your life count high. Gonna churn through so much of your deck every turn that youll find your wincons in your 99

    • @Birbbato
      @Birbbato Рік тому +4

      @@thegeardude Plus, killing Frodo or Sam doesn't get rid of your advantages! Any food will trigger Frodo and Sam will still be making food in Frodo's absence (Plus the ring benefits don't go away). Merry and Pippin NEED each other, and the game plan with requires mana investment and summoning sickness. You shoot Pip down and he's offline for 2 turns.

    • @Parthet
      @Parthet Рік тому +4

      I’ve seen enough go wide token decks

    • @thetogtube2
      @thetogtube2 Рік тому

      Agreed that I want to see and play with Frodo and Sam… but the other M&P seem stronger.

    • @BlackOpsShortClips
      @BlackOpsShortClips Місяць тому

      Few alterations Sam and Frodo become gods. Put in a lot of token doublers and life drainers (especially when you gain, ie Sheoldred, Vito and Alcalotz) build up 7 food tokens, play Sam = 40 life lost to an opponent.

  • @Parthet
    @Parthet Рік тому +165

    I disagree with the commander choice. I would go with Frodo/Sam. The wincon there is The Ring triggers. It is something new and different. We’ve seen so many go wide token strategies by now.

    • @PiquantPan
      @PiquantPan Рік тому +8

      “Oh boy, i get to attack with an unblockable 1/3 that pings the table for 3 and draws a card” - it’s a fun and smooth experience for a low-key game of commander, might be fun to see how it plays against all the precons in a pod, but overall Frodo and Sam don’t seem to have the juice to keep up against even a moderately tuned deck

    • @yoda9240
      @yoda9240 Рік тому +14

      I’ve tested out the deck and Frodo is mainly there for card advantage, his damage is very minimal. It’s the Mirkwood Bats, Gollum, and Sanguine Bond type effects that win the game for this deck when Sam and Frodo are in charge.

    • @OhNoTheFace
      @OhNoTheFace Рік тому +4

      @@PiquantPan Way to mention none of the ring triggers mentioned

    • @rayzur1076
      @rayzur1076 Рік тому

      agreed

    • @PiquantPan
      @PiquantPan Рік тому +2

      @@OhNoTheFace that’s literally where the “ping the table for 3” section of my comment came from, keep your brain damage to yourself

  • @JoseAlberto-Jugo
    @JoseAlberto-Jugo Рік тому +15

    After seeing the chef thumbnail I though I was going to get the Bilbo eating or Sam cooking version of the deck, not the same go wide with tokens version

  • @STBSeb
    @STBSeb Рік тому +56

    I'd love to see a similar video for all these LOTR decks where the upgrades come strictly from in-universe cards!

    • @chrismarlow9585
      @chrismarlow9585 Рік тому +5

      Tomer plans to do this on the MTGGoldfishCommander channel

    • @taylorjohnson5148
      @taylorjohnson5148 Рік тому +1

      i agree... but damn academy manufactor is so good here haha

    • @blemski
      @blemski Рік тому

      Came here to say this as well

    • @RAWxxx07
      @RAWxxx07 Рік тому

      Same here

  • @harrisonwissel-littmann9015
    @harrisonwissel-littmann9015 Рік тому +41

    It is great to see all the support Abzan has been receiving lately!

    • @damienjohnson3450
      @damienjohnson3450 Рік тому +3

      I agree and I like that it's not just a strict power boost, but new types of decks.

    • @jeffmay4253
      @jeffmay4253 Рік тому +2

      Absolutely, more commander options and having them all have very distinct abilities and play styles makes it more fun and unique at a table

    • @ShredAimlessly92
      @ShredAimlessly92 Рік тому +1

      Any deck that’s Abzan and isn’t a +1/+1 counters deck automatically has my attention.

    • @damienjohnson3450
      @damienjohnson3450 Рік тому

      @@ShredAimlessly92 Exactly!

  • @Deum-Immortalem
    @Deum-Immortalem Рік тому +28

    I'm definitely going with Frodo & Sam lifegain/food & ring tempts you seems much more flavorful & fun I also want to keep it on theme so I'll only be upgrading the deck with LOTR cards from the main set this is the deck I'm most excited for.

    • @k9commander
      @k9commander Рік тому +2

      Perfectly understandable.
      If you decide to add non LotR cards to the deck, I'd still recommend Gyome, Academy Manufactor, and Agent of the Iron Throne.
      Gyome is more food synergy that can give indestructible. You can also feed your opponent's creatures to tap them down for a full assault.
      Academy Manufactor makes a treasure every time Sam or any of your cards make food. The treasure can be used to pay for the reduced food cost even when you're tapped out. The clue is extra.
      Agent deals damage to your opponents every time you crack a food (or treasure or clue) for each of your commanders.

    • @yoda9240
      @yoda9240 Рік тому +1

      I’m doing this as well, my current plans for my upgrades are Bilbo’s Ring, The One Ring, Delighted Halfling, Elanor Gardener, Lotho, Meriadoc Brandybuck, Peregrin Took, Samwise Gamgee, Saradoc, The Shire, and The Battle of Bywater.
      I’ve done some testing on Cockatrice and Samwise Gamgee, Peregrin Took, and The Battle of Bywater are monsters in this deck.

    • @Deum-Immortalem
      @Deum-Immortalem Рік тому

      @@yoda9240 I've got a lot of those in my cart just waiting awhile till prices go down more but definitely gonna check out battle of bywater & peregrin took.

    • @yoda9240
      @yoda9240 Рік тому

      @@dontatmetillyouvebeenoutside I like your ideas, I was mainly looking at food but there are three cards that can trigger off the tempting each turn (not including the Nazgûl).
      Aragorn's counters on Frodo is an interesting idea. Frodo already has vigilance, and lifelink will only be 1 life per turn. Deathtouch makes him a good blocker and first strike once he already has deathtouch makes him a great blocker. Is it worth putting Aragorn in your deck to get two first strike deathtouchers? It is for me.
      I think Gollum is a great include because I like land. Having more land is always good. Sadly, he also fills up the graveyard, which makes Crypt Incursion better and is bad other than that. This deck doesn't really struggle with mana most of the time, but he's still better than some of the cards I still have in the deck, so I will probably add him.
      Faramir is the third one that works, you didn't mention him, he will give a 1/1 each turn. I will go through and see if there's anything I want to cut to add him but he's not super flavorful or impactful so I probably won't.

    • @richardnieves8491
      @richardnieves8491 6 місяців тому +1

      Just finished doing this! And let me say I’m in love with my food and fellowship deck. All cards in it from lotr set.

  • @ThePhoenixSlayer
    @ThePhoenixSlayer Рік тому +13

    Just some tips for those looking to build around Frodo and Sam (Just because I love them, I'm going to do it, no matter what every YT video I've watched so far says! XD):
    1) Obviously, some of the additions and cuts in this video should be ignored. Examples being, Frying pan, Leader, etc. Basically everything that cared about anthems is less useful in the Frodo/Sam variant.
    2) I agree with the high-curve cuts. I've basically cut out every single cycle card they mentioned. I also cut Toxic Deluge as it kinda destroys your board as well, which I don't like, but I replaced it with The Battle for Bywater, basically another asymmetrical boardwipe that also gives you food.
    3) I exchanged Birds of Paradise for a Delighted Halfling as I was focusing on the Halfling tribal subtheme of the deck. This was purely for thematic reasons, but if you are doing this, I would suggest adding an Heirloom Blade to keep the Hobbit chain going. You could also experiment with some Voltron options
    4) Lastly, I replaced Harmonize (NOOOOO!!!) with Call of the Ring. This makes you zoom through the Ring even faster, and even when the Ring is fully leveled, it gives you ANOTHER extra card each time Frodo attacks, given that you pay 2 life (which you have plenty of). Can you guys think of an other cards that benefit when the Ring tempts you?
    I'd like to hear what the commentsection thinks of these changes, and I'd love some more suggestions for card additions, specifically for Frodo/Sam as your commanders.

    • @k9commander
      @k9commander Рік тому

      When it comes to the ring, these are my recommendations.
      Are there any equipment that give the lure (opponent's creatures must block) ability? It works well with the third ring ability. All their weak creatures must block and get sacked by the ring after combat.
      The equipment that halves life after hit may also work. It would need testing.
      Non-ring related
      The Academy Manufactor, Gyome and Agent of the Iron Throne recommendations were good.

    • @ThePhoenixSlayer
      @ThePhoenixSlayer Рік тому +2

      @@k9commander I like some of your ideas! The three that you mentioned were exactly those that I did actually add to the deck from this video.
      Firstly for some of my cards I cut down the mana base to 36, as I feel that 38 is too much for our low mana curve. I switched out the Evolving wilds and a Forest for The Shire and Gingerbread Cabin, to have some more food producers.
      I also realized that with some of the heavier food-consuming creatures, making one or two foods a turn might not be quite good enough, so I exchanged some cards for cards that are nearly just as good, but make food (Example: I switched out Farseek for Many Partings, which tutors for a basic only, but it makes a food, and its only one mana) I also added more hobbits that make food (Peregrin Took and Meriadoc Brandybuck), and added Samwise Gamgee for more continual food production. and this works better in the Frodo deck since with Pippin you don't really want to be spending the Food on anything else, but still want to profit from their ETB's.
      I like your idea of making Frodo "must be blocked", but I rather went a little in the "can't be blocked" route for the ring's last ability, which I think is a bit more powerful. Adding an Exquisite Blood to the deck then turns the drain into "gain 9 life" as well. The Exquisite Blood also helps if you want to go the boring route and win with Sanguine Bond/Exquisite Blood. To make Frodo unblockable I just added a Whispersilk Cloak, to also give shroud against any targeted removal. With this strategy in mind I also added Frodo, Sauron's Bane. By the time he hits the battlefield, the ring is most likely already at full power. You can upgrade him for lifelink, which fits with the deck, and his last upgrade just turns him into an insta-kill machine. Getting the Cloak on him would be ideal then.
      Lastly, I also added Lembas, as it is food, and it gives you some more card draw. It can also help if you possibly nearly drew through your entire deck without somehow winning, this can keep you alive from carddraw, as it goes back into your library.
      As you can see, a lot of my upgrades are sub-optimal, but I tried to keep as many cards in the deck still from the LOTR set. I think in my final product I have 4 non-LTR cards.

  • @ronyheat91
    @ronyheat91 Рік тому +16

    definately going with frodo and sam as the commanders. Still think it will be strong, and its more "FOOD" centric than Merry and Pipin.

  • @Dragon_Fyre
    @Dragon_Fyre Рік тому +8

    I was surprised that a skullclamp was not a consideration with Merry.

  • @SHJANNONYO
    @SHJANNONYO Рік тому +5

    It's also worth noting that there are a ton of awesome cards from the main set that would work great in this deck

  • @martinprybylski2392
    @martinprybylski2392 Рік тому +8

    Really appreciate the bigger budget. The 10 dollar ones just weren't enough

  • @MascalchiPlay
    @MascalchiPlay Рік тому +9

    Most of the budget is directed to make token strategy good and card draw, which Frodo already does. Probably not the best idea to use Mery/Pippin as commanders.

    • @MascalchiPlay
      @MascalchiPlay Рік тому +1

      Playing tokens is great, but idk, there’s so many token commanders out there. The food value engine sounds more fun to me.

  • @magicorthodoxy
    @magicorthodoxy Рік тому +4

    I would love to see upgrades within the LOTR set - to keep it pure

  • @rnajarro11
    @rnajarro11 Рік тому +5

    this is probably one of the first sets ive seen where i feel the upgrades are pretty minimal to make this into a monster of a deck!

  • @kandjar
    @kandjar Рік тому +4

    Love those videos; I really like the $50 budget upgrade idea except… if the $50 is just for one card 😅… if feels unnecessary, the honorable mention was fine in that case.
    I also disagree (just personally) with the choice of commander; even though I agree that the choosen commanders are more appropriate for efficiency; i think Frodo and Sam were more unique and therefore more interesting to focus on.
    Again; just to reiterate and end on a good note: I really really love these videos ❤, such high quality content!! Thanks a lot for making them!!!

  • @JustforKikX
    @JustforKikX Рік тому +2

    I bought this precon today, and I gotta agree with everyone else; Sam and Frodo are just way cooler and more original. The deck also really supports food so Sam/Frodo are super supported. I appreciate the effort in this video, but I feel it was a miss.

  • @keelangilmour2511
    @keelangilmour2511 Рік тому +1

    I’m glad you guys chose Merry and Pippin. Sam and Frodo seem pretty lacklustre. I think you made the right choice

  • @herbhaley5895
    @herbhaley5895 Рік тому +13

    When the Chromatic Lanturn was revealed, a tear slowly rolled down the cheek of Josh Lee Kwai as he silently said, "When will they ever learn?"

  • @StretchyPlays
    @StretchyPlays Рік тому +2

    I'm going to try to only put cards from the main set into these decks. If I want to up the power a bit more I might add cards from other sets that still fit the theme, like elves and stuff. Would be nice to get a video going over which cards from the main set are best in the commander decks.

  • @Haruki6669.
    @Haruki6669. Рік тому +1

    If I had to guess, I would say that the ring perforation is so you can put the top half attached to the bearer, and the bottom half set aside with a counter on it so you know what abilities the ring has

  • @SamuraiMTG
    @SamuraiMTG Рік тому +4

    Love the channel, love the hosts, but I have to say this was rough to get through and I stopped at like 30 min. This unfortunately felt so dry and slow I couldn't finish. To be frank I got bored, something just felt off. I'll eventually come back around to finish though!

  • @brustus8722
    @brustus8722 Рік тому +5

    I feel like the food precon was the only one really focused on actually supplying cards for the theme of the deck and its main theme not supplying new cards for a subtheme that turns out suboptimal kinda like the voting mechanics in the simic deck and how they could have been cool but they should have given us more cards that vote and less cards that care about elves or vice versa

  • @noaharterburn2690
    @noaharterburn2690 Рік тому +2

    The Ring explanation card is perforated so that you can rip off the top “ring” portion and place it on your creature to delineate it as the ring bearer. You can then keep the “rules” portion somewhere easier to pickup and read.

  • @fosterark
    @fosterark Рік тому +3

    I am mad ready to get this deck into my hands on Friday!

  • @digdoug31
    @digdoug31 Рік тому +1

    My first thought on the thumbnail was: Wow, y'all got Remy himself to upgrade the Ratatouille deck!

  • @mizzlchieizzl
    @mizzlchieizzl Рік тому +1

    the Ring is perforated so you can break it off and put it on a creature as your ringbearer : ) neat idea but you can also use a toy ring : )

  • @Someoneelse415
    @Someoneelse415 9 місяців тому

    I'm a fan of the larger budgets for these decks. Also really liked when you threw in a few higher priced options that are good fit.

  • @dennis7156
    @dennis7156 Рік тому +2

    aahh yes.. take the FOOD precon and make it into a go wide creature token deck instead, -5/5 toasters on this episode!

  • @christopherfreeman1666
    @christopherfreeman1666 4 місяці тому

    I actually enjoy putting Bag End Porter into this deck because of how easy it is to get legendary creatures onto the battlefield. Either way you do it, each of the four legendary "hero hobbits", so to speak, are SO incredibly easy to get onto the battlefield, and if you have Bag End Porter in your hand that allows you to have one tanky dwarf already. It's certainly not as effective as going wide with your halfling tokens, but it is a fairly synergistic card to implement.

  • @stephentaylor451
    @stephentaylor451 Рік тому +2

    Really excited for this deck!

  • @liamthompson951
    @liamthompson951 Рік тому +2

    I think Lotho and the Battle of Bywater from the main set would be great includes here.

  • @Flyboy245
    @Flyboy245 Рік тому +2

    I was less than thrilled with the $10 budget. It seemed too low, in that it was too low to me, and not applicable for how I build decks. After watching this video with a $50 budget, and seeing that mondrak is $28 (which could be prohibitively expensive) , I realized just because it doesn’t apply to me, doesn’t mean it doesn’t apply to someone else. But cool upgrade. If I did this, I might do bilbo, just cause it’s very thematic

  • @positivecontacts
    @positivecontacts Рік тому

    The perforated ring token is so you can obscure the abilities of the ring that aren’t yet active. Alternatively you can put the ring on the ring bearer and mark the ability list another way. You can also put the ability list inside your ring bearers sleeve and edge it up another level each time the ring tempts you.

  • @dorsalfin22
    @dorsalfin22 Рік тому +1

    Abzan food/lifegain, AND an Abzan enchantress deck coming later this year? Ty WOTC!

  • @RainBurner13
    @RainBurner13 Рік тому +1

    I’m probably gonna focus on the food theme, gonna be fun!

  • @trevorwilliams5144
    @trevorwilliams5144 Рік тому

    I went life gain strategy and I’m running things like archangel of thune, more life gain on creature etb and I have several overrun effects based on life gain. I will admit I forgot that I would have two commanders for the backgrounds. I may consider switching to Mary and pippin with some untap strategies since my strategy doesn’t really need frodo

  • @MadHatter2k4
    @MadHatter2k4 Рік тому

    I like the way you went with it 😊

  • @Owl4Hagrid
    @Owl4Hagrid Рік тому

    Thanks for doing this. I would have liked to see Frodo and Sam as Commander and “any” upgrades to be cards from the LOTR set.

  • @Luastardust
    @Luastardust Рік тому

    can't wait for this deck!

  • @tactiCole_
    @tactiCole_ Рік тому +1

    I really appreciate you guys talking about general power level when we talk about which commanders to use, but I think this is one of the rare cases where 90%+ of the player base will want to play frodo/sam. Also would utilize a lot more of the LotR set cards because of the ring tempting mechanic, which means you won't be putting old cards in out of flavor. I know people will always want the one(s) you didn't pick but would love to see maybe a shorter deck tech for probably the two most beloved characters in LotR.

  • @SasoriRules2011
    @SasoriRules2011 Рік тому +1

    While I'm, sadly, not super stoked for any of the Universes Beyond sets, this deck seems like a ton of fun.

  • @Aldissimo90
    @Aldissimo90 Рік тому +2

    Was really hoping for you to upgrade the deck just with cards of the set to keep the flavour intact. Instead you went with... Academy manufactor and a phyrexian dominus.

  • @Dragon_Fyre
    @Dragon_Fyre Рік тому +1

    You can probably feel the seething hatred from your opponents when playing a dockside extortionist versus this deck.

  • @andreaoffer2450
    @andreaoffer2450 Рік тому

    Hi all. Question: when you romove some cards and add others how to adjust lands/mana?

  • @laurenslinkwolf
    @laurenslinkwolf Рік тому

    quick adition to it, you can also use the effect of Gyome to tap down monsters attacking you ;-)

  • @ehsanrahee7411
    @ehsanrahee7411 Рік тому

    I'm trying to keep the Tolkien flavour in all the precon upgrades I do. So all my upgrades have to just be from the rest of the set. It would be cool to see some ideas on that.

  • @tubad23
    @tubad23 Рік тому

    The ring token is perferated so you can tear it and use the top as a marker for who your ring bearer is

  • @dikei4559
    @dikei4559 Рік тому

    Was a little bummed at first when i saw it wasnt sam and frodo and it seemed like it would be a pretty standard "just lower the curve" type of upgrade path but i gotta say y'all had a looooot of fun with this one and it really showed and i had fun watching, great job especially to jamie and rachel

  • @jonathanw4432
    @jonathanw4432 6 місяців тому

    Can you guys do in universe upgrades on all of the Lotr precons??

  • @MattGarrison616
    @MattGarrison616 Рік тому

    What other two cards would you remove if you were to add Seedborn Muse and Smothering Tithe?

  • @TheRedKnightOfPain
    @TheRedKnightOfPain Рік тому

    I just noticed you could probably build a really interesting selesnia equiptment/artifact deck with marry

  • @Sextistsheep
    @Sextistsheep Рік тому

    Love the upgrades!

  • @peanutthegallery7380
    @peanutthegallery7380 Рік тому

    Video was cool and I always enjoy the breakdowns but I would have like to of seen an upgrade guide With Sam and Frodo as the commanders.

  • @sybrrr
    @sybrrr Рік тому

    I just thought I would suggest a few cards you didn't mention. A lot of cards from the Commander 2021 Green/Black lifegain precon are good for this. I especially like Ezzaroot Channeler. Inspiring Statuary is great with all those food tokens around. Fangren Marauder is awesome! How about an extra 5 life whenever you sac a food? (or whenever anybody sacs a food, treasure, clue or blood token for that matter) Accomplished Alchemist, Witch of the Moors, Marionette Master, Trail of Crumbs to name a few more.

  • @goelandz878
    @goelandz878 Рік тому +1

    I really liked the challenge to make Frodo + Sam work, slightly disappointed they wasn't chosen. I personally end up with a food matter, token matter (that synergies with food), graveyard matter subtheme. I could also go toughness matter but it would require much more card to change. With recurring creature to make use of the loot option such as Ovalchase Daredevil, deathless knight.

  • @joshuanelson4819
    @joshuanelson4819 Рік тому

    i need jimmy's decklist from the liquid IV ad lolol, for research purposes :)

  • @spencerwaters9645
    @spencerwaters9645 Рік тому

    The perforation is to remove the ring and cover the ring abilities. Sliding it down as you gain more of them to uncover them.

  • @jokesonyou91
    @jokesonyou91 Рік тому +1

    I really dont like half the hobbits being in the black color pie.

  • @bodhibrandsma3450
    @bodhibrandsma3450 Рік тому +16

    I don't feel really invested with these upgrades. Especially with the choice of Merry and Pippin as commanders. Frodo and Sam seem sooo much more interesting to me.

  • @kiwi_commander
    @kiwi_commander Рік тому +1

    What do you mean Mondrak doesn't fit in a Middle-Earth themed commander deck? It's just the Mouth of Sauron!

  • @mxd6202
    @mxd6202 Рік тому

    Nice guide ! You also could have included mirkwood bats who could be so broken in this deck

  • @ryanbosley57
    @ryanbosley57 Рік тому

    Yes love this budget area.

  • @ajsmith8387
    @ajsmith8387 Рік тому +1

    Played the pre-con last night for the first time, loved it and found it pretty powerful out of the box. Love the "food matters" theme, haven't played with Food like that before, ever. Excited to see what Command Zone had to offer to upgrade that theme and find interesting ways to double tokens, double lifegain, etc. Maybe some big creatures to toss in so "Bilbo, Birthday Celebrant" could go crazy after some lifegain shenanigans. Saw that they decided not to go with Frodo and Sam, and I'm not gonna finish the video. Always a bummer when the face commanders aren't explored in these guides, but this one especially is just disappointing.

  • @jimmyb2655
    @jimmyb2655 Рік тому

    my playgroup played the precons, it was a really fun game. The hobbits were poppin...but the food tokens actually killed the table...I won, Sauron, that dragon is insane! it came out for 2, haste, then hit mr hobbits for 6 in the air and made 12 treasures since he had 10 foods a sol ring and another artifact. cavern hoard dragon, great card, new dockside lite.

  • @patrickstephenson958
    @patrickstephenson958 Рік тому

    Ravenous squirrel 🐿️ don't sleep on it, he's hungry.

  • @avandaughrity2114
    @avandaughrity2114 Рік тому

    BTW, for my "the ring" card, i did take off the ring, so that way whenever the ring rempts me, i can just put the ring on top of whoever my ring bearer is. Makes it easy to see who the ring bearer is and i keep the bottom half of the card on the side for easy access.

  • @MikeConstantinou
    @MikeConstantinou Рік тому

    Would love to see an upgrade video that only uses cards with the Lord of the Rings artwork.

  • @forceofwillgaming8475
    @forceofwillgaming8475 Рік тому

    This deck looks so cool and is one I plan on doing along with the temur one from MOM. Also my group calls Gyome master chef, Gordon Ramsey Master Chef

  • @Stephan_Kobalt_Nordstern
    @Stephan_Kobalt_Nordstern Рік тому

    hi i still miss the urgrade from march of the machine ?! is it still planed?

  • @walterwiffles7384
    @walterwiffles7384 Рік тому +1

    Sadly Merry and Pippin aren't realy about food wich is part of the style, but great video nevertheless! They just get sacrificed for any other reason and could be any tokens instead of food. I like the lifegain aspect of the front commanders. Prob. not as strong but there are enough cards to play around life gain and that might be fun. Wich is why I chose this deck over the other 3 :D
    Fits right beside my other food deck with Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar. And yes, I practiced the pronunciation :D

  • @Dirtycook0430
    @Dirtycook0430 Місяць тому

    Which commander do you have on field and which do you put in deck? Jw

  • @targetdreamer257
    @targetdreamer257 Рік тому

    So there is a strange effect that I notice. The bottom of the microphone that Jamie Block is using has this strange dubbed in look, the part over the image on his shirt. Like it is an old version of a green screen where you can see the edge of the thing against the screen.
    Or is just me that sees it?

  • @MareczqZglos
    @MareczqZglos Рік тому +1

    I was not happy when you choose other duo as commandres... then when you told life gain is not good idea ... but when i sow Bilbo on cutting list... Iam out :D

  • @lesternomo6578
    @lesternomo6578 Рік тому

    i just realized the 3rd ring bearer ability is kinda crazy, like if you use a creature with a lure effect or just lure its just a board wipe against one player, even better if the creature has indestructible

  • @leemiller6977
    @leemiller6977 Рік тому

    I love how Jamie pronounced Toxic Del-uge correctly. Flavorwise, totally on point. Nice one, good sir! And I believe the other word is pronounced as heeth lane even though it is spelled Hithlain. Also caught the fact that you said " or something of that ilk " Keep em comin' Jaime!

    • @leemiller6977
      @leemiller6977 Рік тому

      P.S. You cannot find hardly any of the LOTR main set cards or these cards from the precon decks on Card Kingdom. Somebody better start unloading some copies...LETS GOOOOOO!!!

  • @thesamuraiman
    @thesamuraiman Рік тому

    I think it so you can tear off the top part and put the ring on top of a creature card 😂😂

  • @smellyleopardd
    @smellyleopardd Рік тому +2

    Tbh I would much rather have seen Frodo & Sam as commander.

  • @dungeonrancher
    @dungeonrancher Рік тому

    Love the higher budget!

  • @theseai4955
    @theseai4955 9 місяців тому

    In one turn I went from 30 to 60 life and my friend went from 27 to negative… Sam and Frodo build can be crazy

  • @Pasequale100
    @Pasequale100 5 місяців тому

    Cool Video :) Is the food akd fellowship also playable in Duell/ French Commander?

  • @Hurricane1990
    @Hurricane1990 Рік тому

    So I think the only way to upgrade these decks is with cards from the set. I think that way keeps the fantasy going.

  • @nsaneg00n74
    @nsaneg00n74 Рік тому

    Use cranial plating on frodo with all the food and make him unblockable with some lands in the deck

  • @alexanderpayne4652
    @alexanderpayne4652 Рік тому +3

    While I'll always miss having Josh and Jimmy together, I think you too are my favorite co-hosts right now! You seem to get each other's humor and interests (combos, wacky cards, fun flavor, etc) and I think your knowledge of MTG is more thorough (and accurate) then any other hosts. The combination makes for a really enjoyable show! Also, the lack of the Sam and Frodo option didn't bother me at all (I don't usually really use these upgrade guides anyway - I just like to listen to you talk about the cards!).

  • @erikohman2294
    @erikohman2294 Рік тому

    With Sam, gingerbrute is finally broken.

  • @Pullituz
    @Pullituz Рік тому +3

    I started to be really weird player, I just don't see Phyrexians with Hobbits 😂 even how card synergies together. I have started to build really thematic decks. Fairytale, high fantasy, sci-fi, horror etc. And I can't stand people who plays Transformers, Rick etc decks :D

    • @NoahTakai
      @NoahTakai Рік тому +1

      I'm gonna build my Starscream deck now just for seeing this comment

  • @OhNoTheFace
    @OhNoTheFace Рік тому

    Blowing over half the budget on one card to force a done to death go wide token strat was an interesting choice

  • @Lvl99Ditto
    @Lvl99Ditto Рік тому

    Me and my friends are kind of new to magic and we are not understanding motivated pony, lets say you have motivated pony and a couple other creatures, is the point to swing with everything, then they untap and are able to swing again with everything getting buffed?

    • @sybrrr
      @sybrrr Рік тому

      They don't get to attack again, but they are still attacking. Untapping them does not remove them from combat. Untapping them is just a little bonus so they can be used to block later on.

  • @DefinitelyNotTroll69
    @DefinitelyNotTroll69 Рік тому

    White Plume Adventurer is unless if you don't complete the dungon 42:11

  • @AvaricioDues
    @AvaricioDues Рік тому

    Me who owns both Anointed Procession and Mondrak. “Oh yeah, it’s all coming together.”

  • @cheds01
    @cheds01 11 місяців тому

    Will you redo these episodes to cover the other Commander ?

  • @Galaxoid
    @Galaxoid 3 місяці тому

    Is there something I'm missing? White Plume only untaps Pippin on opponent's upkeep. I can't then tap Pippin to create a food, it's not my turn. At the beginning of my upkeep, Pippin untaps anyways, so what is the purpose?