MR timminon Then Jordan should’ve known that since he was EXACTLY the same type of person. He should’ve known in that situation not to fully trust anyone.
Damn this is a sad scene. You can see in Jordan‘s eyes how much he cares about Donnie and you can see in Donnie‘s eyes how sad he is that he’s done what he has done.
@@petermj1098 no, meaning that Donnie is sad at what he’s done as in ratting out his best friend. Hence the “I’m going to hell” when they were in the storm. He wasn’t repenting being a stealing degenerate. He was afraid of going to hell for being a Judas.
There is no proof that Donnie fucked him over. If that was the case, the producers would have showed it in subsequent scenes. Jordan and Donnie probably forgot about the paper, or they didn’t expect FBI to search the premises. The producers wouldn’t have kept the audience in the dark. You are making your own theory that Donnie fucked him over, Which is false.
+radiationbacon People don't think rationally when money is involved. It's an animalistic instinct, just take as much as you can before you get stopped. It's a snowball effect really.
CoDWiiPS3Gameplay honestly I agree. After watching interviews with the guy I believe he's an alright guy, but got introduced into the wrong people and quoting him "slowely pushed over my line of ethics". But I'm 100% agreement with you, he lost control, especially considering the heavy amounts of drugs he did. It was definitely a snowball effect
+FrankReynolds, Paddys Pub, CEO I'm honestly not trying to justify his actions. but just trying to explain what I think happened. He had no excuse for what he did. he did some really fucked up shit. I agree. I'm just trying to give my 2 cents on how he got into that scenario in the first place. but yeah, i agree with you
It's possible he still is that charismatic-it's that same quality is why they did a movie about him and why he's somehow earning an honest(I'm not sure what to call it really) enough living to pay off what he did to his victims, not that it even comes close to doing that.
Yet people even when they know the full story still look up to him. I mean did you see the crowd at the end of the movie? I feel like deep down everyone is just as shitty as Belfort but never got the chance to show that to people cuss they never got fame and money like Belfort did.
TheLaughIndustry I think you're right , we are all jordan bellford but he had the balls to take 2 of the 3 keys to success and twist it. 1. Be first. 2. Be smarter. 3. Cheat. It's a great film.
He was caught because he wasn't clever, big or connected enough in how he steals from people. It had nothing to do with morals. None of those CEOs and managers that destroyed the economy in 2007-2009 ever got in trouble except a brown person and a couple small fish. Don't ever think they catch these guys because they care about morals. It's a show, a distraction. This is a full blown plutocracy.
manictiger Couldnt agree more, while you go and bust your ass and live life with "morals", theyre making what youll make in that whole year in a matter of minutes. Life is a game, learn to play it. How many people have become millionaires without breaking any laws, or fucking over some people?(Rhetorical question)
RandRWargaming How do you figure? If Jordan had the prudence to insist on the note's destruction and Donnie refused to eat it, then Jordan would've been suspicious and destroyed it himself.
except that the wire would have picked up the sound of paper being crunched in his mouth so he would have had to be away from donnie for him to get rid of it at which time he would haave done the same thing that he did
this is a great scene. have you noticed how, as Jordan walks into the office, all the people who admire and trust him greet him as a returning hero - they begin clapping and chanting his nickname. when he turns the corner, the electronic stock ticker begins to run; the whole place comes to vigorous life. the dramatic irony, of course, being that he's actually there to essentially KILL that place, and the people who adore him.
What's funny about this scene is how both Jordan and Donnie discus Steve Madden betraying them and then right out of nowhere Donnie ends up betraying Jordan just like that. Let that sink in XD
Chris Sloan He gave the FBI the yellow paper showing that Jordan tried to mess with the investigation. That’s why the FBI shows up at his house with the yellow paper in the bag.
Chris Sloan I haven’t read the book so it’s my bad but to me it looks like Donnie snitched becuase why Jordan leave the note there he’s not stupid and it’s seems plausible that they heard the change in voice but how would they have got the note
Jordan looking down at the FBI agent from the balcony of his yacht, throwing $100 "fun tickets" Jordan looking down at the FBI agent from the balcony of his home, FBI agent holding his "fun ticket"
watched this movie so many times but it is soooooooo fucked up that Donnie gave the FBI the yellow note Jordan gave to him telling Donnie not to incriminate himself which in the end, made Jordan go to jail. Jordan looked out for him and Donnie out of all people, screwed him over. No honor among thieves
+2Good2BeTrue45 It makes me wonder if teh FBI had an "in" on Donnie also. Like At the same time Jordan was being questioned, they had Donnie also. Otherwise, how would Donnie even know who to give the note TO ? and why "play" the note at that time ?
+2Good2BeTrue45 is it maybe possible that donnie just forgot to get rid of the yellow note and that the FBI checked the table later? cause donnie betraying him is soooo fucked up. and donnie was never an asshole to Jordan.
Some things: Donnie does indeed betray them all. In an early copy of the script, it is heavily implied. Due to some editing, it's a lot more subtle. In the yacht sinking scene, Donnie half confesses but is interrupted by "the ludes". Secondly, he's deleting in anticipation of the FBI coming in and isn't being taken away like the others. His hands are in his head while this happens. He knows what's going on. If he wasn't in on it, he would have been yelling and screaming like the others. Now obviously in a real situation he would have already cleared his stuff before they even came, but to show him doing it before they come in shows he knew before hand: the result is the same. Third, the note was in their office. Not some restaurant as some people mistake. It shouldn't have gone anywhere, not even the trash can. It's probably intact because Donnie said he would take care of it: obviously, we can't confirm this, but the fact remains that the note is in pristine condition when presented. Also, the note itself isn't enough to incriminate Jordan. They have no proof he wrote it, nor if it was related to him at all. The only way it could be proof is if someone submitted it. The only person who could do such a thing was Donnie. Lastly: in real life (and in the books), the note didn't really matter. They practically let it slide.
Your list makes no sense. If he was in with the FBI, he would have nothing to delete at that time, he would already have deleted it or handed it over. He was only deleting it now because he was informed by Jordan. If he wanted to give the note, he would have clean his shit before doing it. If he knew about it when Jordan told him not to incriminate himself, he would have to be a good actor to act the way he did, which would be out of character for his character. If the script writers wanted to imply he was in it, than that makes the scene terribly directed.
I would have thought the FBI listening to the wire, would have picked up Donny's change of mood. There he is "It's great to have you back..." all excited and happy, then suddenly - once he reads the note - he goes monosyllabic and hardly saying a thing. That would surely have raised their suspicions that JB would have told him.
Jack Windrammer My point was though you would think they would have picked up Donnie's change of mood and therefore suspected that Jordan had informed him somehow about the wire. Mind you, I am getting a bit too complex for what really is at best a "light" film.
@@ninjaked1265 bro, the implication is that Donnie snitched him out because when the FBI raided the main players at the office, Donnie is untouched and anxious at what he selfishly done
"If you're part of a crew, nobody ever tells you that they're going to kill you, doesn't happen that way. There weren't any arguments or curses like in the movies. See, your murderers come with smiles, they come as your friends, the people who've cared for you all of your life." - Henry Hill (Goodfellas) It's amazing how similar the parallels were between Jordan Belfort wearing a wire and Henry Hill dining with Jimmy Burke in The Goodfellas.
Donnie ratted on Jordan long before this. The whole boat in a thunderstorm scene is pretty brilliant script writing and revealed it. Donnie makes a halfway confession, the whole thing was a ruse to catch Jordan and now Donnie feels he is being punished for betraying Jordan. The agents needed him on the phone to gather proof. Just the way Jordan compliments how he was sold the pen at the dinner they created a "sense of urgency" to sell the trap. The agents used Donnies friend suddenly making a move against Jordan financially to gather that evidence.
There is no proof that Donnie fucked him over. If that was the case, the producers would have showed it in subsequent scenes. Jordan and Donnie probably forgot about the paper, or they didn’t expect FBI to search the premises. The producers wouldn’t have kept the audience in the dark. You are making your own theory that Donnie fucked him over, Which is false.
@@evoke97 I disagree. Donnie turned over the warning note Jordan passed himto the investigators. There is also a segment where Jordan is narrating how noone cracked and gave over information while interviewed. If you notice everyone but Donnie is shown in this montage.
@@evoke97 I suppose you are correct that its not just obviously given to the audience. Watch the scene on the boat again tho and ask yourself if Donnie really is the type of person who has regrets for committing fraud, doing drugs, marrying his relative etc etc? Or is his ambiguous confession his way of showing he regrets betraying his friend. It's a Martin Scorsese film afterall 'based on truth', not the actual events. Scorcese is known for such subtlety. I haven't thought about this film in years :) really glad you commented. You've reminded me what a great movie this is.
I love how it's such a heavy scene and there's so many complex things going on, but it's still a lunch with the guys, and he's like "you going to eat that last piece of yellow tail bud"? Lmfao 🤣🤣
I'm reading the comments on how Donnie was the one who ratted on Jordan first and it makes sense. Donnie's mood changed after seeing the note because he realized he really did betray a loyal friend. And seeing how Jordan was willing to risk himself for his best friend while Donnie was okay giving everyone and everything up made him realize what a shitty person he was. Just my thought
Because he fucking trusted him guys he was there from the beginning and he stayed til the end who would‘ve expected that bitch move from him in Jordan‘s place
Donnie is not the kinda fuker you could ever trust..You learned from when we first meet him when he left his job to work for Jordan. When a better deal is there Donnie will take it and leave you in the dust..
When Jordan offers Donnie the yellowtail, that was improvised, but Scorsese (the director) liked it so he kept it in. The problem for Leo was that he had to do that scene around 30 times so he had to eat 30 of those yellow tails things.
A lot of wire situations are involving people who can and will kill you if they know you have association with law enforcement especially law enforcement resourceful enough to set up a sting.
Funny thing in real life Donny rat out Belfort about this when he was under investigation himself and Belfort even got time added to his sentence... I think it's a good example for when your ass really is on the line friendship takes the walk really quick...
I didn't gather at all that it was Donnie who gave up the note.. I know I'm not very perceptive but I don't think it fits his character either. Also I also have a hard time believing the fbi would cut him much slack just for turning in that note, idk
In the script for the movie, Donnie slips the note into his pocket. When the FBI shows the note Belfort says in a voiceover, "Donnie Azoff, my partner. My best friend." This scene was cut.
Yes i saw an interview with jordan and he said they combined several characters into one and it wasnt donnie (real name danny) who turned him in. They did find the note though that part is true
This is similar to the diner scene in Goodfellas. They’re both the moments before betrayal. In Goodfellas, Henry feels betrayed when he realises Jimmy was sending him off to get whacked while posing as his friend leading to Henry ratting him out. Here Donnie feels betrayed about Jordan wearing a wire and hence rats him out even though Jordan was just looking out for him. It’s a neat parallel between the two films.
@@gabriel7932 no Donnie does indeed rat on Jordan. That’s why he was deleting files on the computer while the FBI raided Stratton Oakmont. He knew they were coming and was trying to appeal for a lighter sentence.
@@gabriel7932 also pay attention to the interaction between Jordan and Donnie when they were eating sushi. Initially Donnie was so glad to see Jordan again and once he sees the note, his tone changes. He looks hurt and you can tell he went from excited to see his pal to complete uncertainty. Because of that, he tips off the FBI with the note.
The law enforcement official reading the plea agreement ("That'd be good.") also played the realtor in The Departed ("And are you a...married state police detective?"). Fun fact!
That scene is so sad! Donny's hope fading in his eyes when he realizes what is actually happening on and goes on talking about superficial platitudes! 😳
You know fun fact, jonah hill kept putting raw sushi in his plate and they did that scene like 10 times and each time, leo ate raw fish. He got really really sick after
Jonah hill played the comic relief for the whole movie and in this one scene delivers the best acting in the movie. So much said in such simple dialogue
Arguably the only flaw in the film is the note he passes Donnie. It doesn’t make sense. How did they get it? At first it seems maybe Donnie turned too and gave him up, but then we see him deleting records, so that doesn’t add up either. And the fed almost theatrically presents the note in a little bag as some kind of evidence. It does sort of ring of goodfellas where everything just wraps up in such an oddly succinct way.
2:25 - in such an intense scene, you get a moment that Jonah, Leo and Marty actually remember as an improvised scene that was actually a prank comeback by Jonah to Leo
For the first time, Jordan is empathetic and for the first time and he's the one who gets betrayed by his friend, i was expecting Jordan to betray donnie and not the other way around 😭 deserved tho
It’s crazy the emotions movies can make feel while watching them. It’s like they can almost make you feel bad for that piece of sh!t for a minute and even forget he is garbage in the first place haha.
0:38 This actor also appears in 'The Departed' as the real estate broker that sells an apartment to Sulluvan (Matt Damon's character). I was wondering where do I recognize him from.
The guy that reads the terms of collaboration also plays the real estate guy that leases the apartment to Matt Damon in The Departed. Marty must like him for small roles or something, or is there some in-joke easter egg type of intertextuality I'm not getting.
Jonah said on Ellen that this scene was “the end of donny and Jordan’s friendship” and that they are trying to communicate parting words to each other without saying it. (Go search it) so I personally think Donny is the rat because if he really cared, he would have kept in contact & the friendship would have continued. & on top of that, the guy was legit deleting stuff expecting them to come and raid. He did not give a toss about Jordan knowing that he was going tf down. My only question is why
Three things Jordan should have thought of or shouldn’t have done: 1. Just because he bribed two police officers over one gay butler, it doesn’t mean he can bribe a fully committed FBI agent. 2. Make sure you don’t do anything with the Swiss guy, don’t deliver millions of dollars to his bank, or at least try to be friends with him rather than business associates. 3. KEEP ANONYMOUS NOTES IN YOUR POCKET AND THROW IT AWAY SO NOBODY SEES IT!!!
What I don’t get is why was Jonah Hill deleting all those messages if he had already talked to the FBI, they would have known he was into some kind of illegal business bc Jordan said not to incriminate yourself
I can't believe Jordan was smart enough to literally take over Wall Street but too dumb to burn an incriminating piece of paper.
No he wasnt dumb. He just trusted the wrong people. Everyone loved Jordan. But as soon as he couldnt make them any money anymore they fucked him over
MR timminon Then Jordan should’ve known that since he was EXACTLY the same type of person. He should’ve known in that situation not to fully trust anyone.
MR timminon wait who fucked him over?
Tom Donnie
Donnie betrayed jordan???.
"I grew up with this guy: he betrays me like that?"
What a coincidence.
Blueberry McPhuckerson lollll
Jean Andre He’s a fucking RAT. told on the people he considered family
Is he talking about Donnie. Did Donnie snitch on Jordan.
Yo did Donnie snitch on Jordan
@@shakilrahman3394 Yes.
Damn this is a sad scene. You can see in Jordan‘s eyes how much he cares about Donnie and you can see in Donnie‘s eyes how sad he is that he’s done what he has done.
Lol No they are sad that they are caught, not for what they’ve done lol
@@petermj1098 no, meaning that Donnie is sad at what he’s done as in ratting out his best friend. Hence the “I’m going to hell” when they were in the storm. He wasn’t repenting being a stealing degenerate. He was afraid of going to hell for being a Judas.
@@ryanparkercolour He had a choice: serve time or betray his friends. He chose the latter, ain't no way he felt that remorseful
Where? Timestamp?
@@qwerttzizzi 1:55
0:50 "Never rat on your friends and always keep your mouth shut." .... oops ! wrong movie !
Ferruccio Guicciardi But Henry didn't do that either😂😂😂
oh you broke your cherry 😂
Ferruccio Guicciardi
Okay boomer.
Jdabomb93 shut up
JUs Jus
Jus jus just a joke. He’s quoting Robert Deniro from The movie Goodfellas.
3:32 you can see how hurt inside him through his eyes when he discovered his best friend had betrayed him..
I cried a little bit when I first saw that I was just completely shocked and I feel betrayed too
There is no proof that Donnie fucked him over. If that was the case, the producers would have showed it in subsequent scenes. Jordan and Donnie probably forgot about the paper, or they didn’t expect FBI to search the premises. The producers wouldn’t have kept the audience in the dark. You are making your own theory that Donnie fucked him over, Which is false.
Donnie didn't betray him... they were both stupid/careless and forgot about the note
@@rushabranawat ... donnie fucked him over to get out of prison. He never got arrested. Wonder why?
@@rushabranawat also, Donnie ratted him out in real life, so there you go.
Great little scene here... Jonah and Leo should do more together...
K August Django
Phelan Christopher Jonah was only in one scene
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Leo appeared on SNL when Jonah hosted. It was pretty good 😎
Yes in Club after a lot of drinks
I loved this movie but I hate the fact that it glorified such a scumbag. This movie launched a new career for Belfort.
+radiationbacon People don't think rationally when money is involved. It's an animalistic instinct, just take as much as you can before you get stopped. It's a snowball effect really.
CoDWiiPS3Gameplay honestly I agree. After watching interviews with the guy I believe he's an alright guy, but got introduced into the wrong people and quoting him "slowely pushed over my line of ethics". But I'm 100% agreement with you, he lost control, especially considering the heavy amounts of drugs he did. It was definitely a snowball effect
+FrankReynolds, Paddys Pub, CEO I'm honestly not trying to justify his actions. but just trying to explain what I think happened. He had no excuse for what he did. he did some really fucked up shit. I agree. I'm just trying to give my 2 cents on how he got into that scenario in the first place. but yeah, i agree with you
+FrankReynolds, Paddys Pub, CEO I guess there's truth to that. maybe he has a façade and in reality has always been evil. who knows
It's possible he still is that charismatic-it's that same quality is why they did a movie about him and why he's somehow earning an honest(I'm not sure what to call it really) enough living to pay off what he did to his victims, not that it even comes close to doing that.
Believe it or not, in the book, belford was a bigger scumbag than in the movie
Daniel afg I wouldn't say it glorified him. Scorsese trusted that the audience would come to their own conclusion about Belford.
Yet people even when they know the full story still look up to him. I mean did you see the crowd at the end of the movie? I feel like deep down everyone is just as shitty as Belfort but never got the chance to show that to people cuss they never got fame and money like Belfort did.
TheLaughIndustry I think you're right , we are all jordan bellford but he had the balls to take 2 of the 3 keys to success and twist it.
1. Be first.
2. Be smarter.
3. Cheat.
It's a great film.
He was caught because he wasn't clever, big or connected enough in how he steals from people.
It had nothing to do with morals.
None of those CEOs and managers that destroyed the economy in 2007-2009 ever got in trouble except a brown person and a couple small fish.
Don't ever think they catch these guys because they care about morals.
It's a show, a distraction. This is a full blown plutocracy.
manictiger Couldnt agree more, while you go and bust your ass and live life with "morals", theyre making what youll make in that whole year in a matter of minutes. Life is a game, learn to play it. How many people have become millionaires without breaking any laws, or fucking over some people?(Rhetorical question)
All the fucker had to do was write: "I'm wearing a wire. Eat this note."
no donny sold him out so that wouldn't have worked
RandRWargaming How do you figure? If Jordan had the prudence to insist on the note's destruction and Donnie refused to eat it, then Jordan would've been suspicious and destroyed it himself.
except that the wire would have picked up the sound of paper being crunched in his mouth so he would have had to be away from donnie for him to get rid of it at which time he would haave done the same thing that he did
RandRWargaming lol The sound of paper being crunched wouldn't prove anything. The evidence would be gone.
Donnie was a rat. There's always a rat, question is who catches the rat first.
@3:38 you can see how Jordan realizes its all over. Nothing he does at this point will help, he's played all his cards.
Good thing rich people don’t get punished, I guess.
this is a great scene. have you noticed how, as Jordan walks into the office, all the people who admire and trust him greet him as a returning hero - they begin clapping and chanting his nickname. when he turns the corner, the electronic stock ticker begins to run; the whole place comes to vigorous life. the dramatic irony, of course, being that he's actually there to essentially KILL that place, and the people who adore him.
Bijinius Cross This isn't English class
Kenny Rickard facts
don't be annoyed that some people are capable of analyzing and critical thinking
Kenny Rickard 😂
spot on!!!
What's funny about this scene is how both Jordan and Donnie discus Steve Madden betraying them and then right out of nowhere Donnie ends up betraying Jordan just like that. Let that sink in XD
Chris Sloan He gave the FBI the yellow paper showing that Jordan tried to mess with the investigation. That’s why the FBI shows up at his house with the yellow paper in the bag.
Chris Sloan nah I’m pretty sure that Donnie snitches they didn’t just find it how te fuck would they have randomly found it Donnie betrayed him
Chris Sloan I haven’t read the book so it’s my bad but to me it looks like Donnie snitched becuase why Jordan leave the note there he’s not stupid and it’s seems plausible that they heard the change in voice but how would they have got the note
Why would you trust Donnie to begin with??
@@casucasueq4479 I think Donnie was the only one not to go prison. He got brad arrested for nothing.
3:45 yeah... they've seen 'catch me if you can'
+Rhig Ganomie lol awesome comment so true
***** When ever I'm watching an actor I recognize in another movie I like to imagine there is some sort of over-arching plot
lol awesome
+Rhig Ganomie sucks that there isn't tho bc they're both true stories
Good catch!!..LOL!
Jordan looking down at the FBI agent from the balcony of his yacht, throwing $100 "fun tickets"
Jordan looking down at the FBI agent from the balcony of his home, FBI agent holding his "fun ticket"
_"Good luck on that subway ride home to your miserable, ugly fucking wives, You Cheap Fucks."_
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Jordan won in the end tho, FBI rides the bus home, jordon gets out in less than four years and goes back to being rich but this time legal
There’s something so captivating and human when it’s a story about the rise and fall of someone. Their heights down to literally their lowest lows
Exactly,this movie is so amazing because they show their highest moments and then their Lowest in a split of seconds
Nobody tells these stories as well as Martin Scorsese
A story of greatness or a story of tragedy are always great
watched this movie so many times but it is soooooooo fucked up that Donnie gave the FBI the yellow note Jordan gave to him telling Donnie not to incriminate himself which in the end, made Jordan go to jail.
Jordan looked out for him and Donnie out of all people, screwed him over. No honor among thieves
+2Good2BeTrue45 It makes me wonder if teh FBI had an "in" on Donnie also. Like At the same time Jordan was being questioned, they had Donnie also.
Otherwise, how would Donnie even know who to give the note TO ? and why "play" the note at that time ?
Chuck.Raney Raney exactly
+2Good2BeTrue45 he should have destroyed it after he showed it to him. he's a great salesman but an idiot
electricLadyland he is not that great a salesman. He IS a great liar and thief.
+2Good2BeTrue45 is it maybe possible that donnie just forgot to get rid of the yellow note and that the FBI checked the table later? cause donnie betraying him is soooo fucked up. and donnie was never an asshole to Jordan.
Some things:
Donnie does indeed betray them all. In an early copy of the script, it is heavily implied. Due to some editing, it's a lot more subtle. In the yacht sinking scene, Donnie half confesses but is interrupted by "the ludes".
Secondly, he's deleting in anticipation of the FBI coming in and isn't being taken away like the others. His hands are in his head while this happens. He knows what's going on. If he wasn't in on it, he would have been yelling and screaming like the others. Now obviously in a real situation he would have already cleared his stuff before they even came, but to show him doing it before they come in shows he knew before hand: the result is the same.
Third, the note was in their office. Not some restaurant as some people mistake. It shouldn't have gone anywhere, not even the trash can. It's probably intact because Donnie said he would take care of it: obviously, we can't confirm this, but the fact remains that the note is in pristine condition when presented.
Also, the note itself isn't enough to incriminate Jordan. They have no proof he wrote it, nor if it was related to him at all. The only way it could be proof is if someone submitted it. The only person who could do such a thing was Donnie.
Lastly: in real life (and in the books), the note didn't really matter. They practically let it slide.
Your list makes no sense. If he was in with the FBI, he would have nothing to delete at that time, he would already have deleted it or handed it over. He was only deleting it now because he was informed by Jordan.
If he wanted to give the note, he would have clean his shit before doing it.
If he knew about it when Jordan told him not to incriminate himself, he would have to be a good actor to act the way he did, which would be out of character for his character. If the script writers wanted to imply he was in it, than that makes the scene terribly directed.
huh. that's interesting
Actually, they could check if this writing was his
@@naturazpolski9213and that would be admissible in NO court 😂
That’s all a theory. Most theories about films books or tv shows turn out to be false and nothing
I would have thought the FBI listening to the wire, would have picked up Donny's change of mood. There he is "It's great to have you back..." all excited and happy, then suddenly - once he reads the note - he goes monosyllabic and hardly saying a thing. That would surely have raised their suspicions that JB would have told him.
the FBI can suspect but that's not evidence, so it would't be able to be used to incriminate either of them
I never said it was evidence, but surely it would have at least made them suspect is all I am saying.
Royal Fool He already was a suspect. That's why Jordan is wearing a wire to collect evidence on him
Jack Windrammer
My point was though you would think they would have picked up Donnie's change of mood and therefore suspected that Jordan had informed him somehow about the wire.
Mind you, I am getting a bit too complex for what really is at best a "light" film.
Royal Fool They end up finding the note anyways so it's kind of a moot point
I got allot of respect for the wolf when he passed him the note. He did not want to rat his partner Donny out.
yet his donny rats him out
_they grew up together_
_his BF name are at the first on the list_
im totally didnt notice it at first
gosh darn it
@@3takoyakis Donnie didn’t rat him out, the FBI found it in the trash
@@ninjaked1265 you actually believe that?! 🤣
@@ninjaked1265 bro, the implication is that Donnie snitched him out because when the FBI raided the main players at the office, Donnie is untouched and anxious at what he selfishly done
Yeah, but in return Jordan got screwed by Donnie
"If you're part of a crew, nobody ever tells you that they're going to kill you, doesn't happen that way. There weren't any arguments or curses like in the movies. See, your murderers come with smiles, they come as your friends, the people who've cared for you all of your life."
- Henry Hill (Goodfellas)
It's amazing how similar the parallels were between Jordan Belfort wearing a wire and Henry Hill dining with Jimmy Burke in The Goodfellas.
They come at you at your lowest point
Donnie ratted on Jordan long before this. The whole boat in a thunderstorm scene is pretty brilliant script writing and revealed it. Donnie makes a halfway confession, the whole thing was a ruse to catch Jordan and now Donnie feels he is being punished for betraying Jordan. The agents needed him on the phone to gather proof. Just the way Jordan compliments how he was sold the pen at the dinner they created a "sense of urgency" to sell the trap. The agents used Donnies friend suddenly making a move against Jordan financially to gather that evidence.
There is no proof that Donnie fucked him over. If that was the case, the producers would have showed it in subsequent scenes. Jordan and Donnie probably forgot about the paper, or they didn’t expect FBI to search the premises. The producers wouldn’t have kept the audience in the dark. You are making your own theory that Donnie fucked him over, Which is false.
its open ended theres no proof of that
@@evoke97 I disagree. Donnie turned over the warning note Jordan passed himto the investigators. There is also a segment where Jordan is narrating how noone cracked and gave over information while interviewed. If you notice everyone but Donnie is shown in this montage.
@@casucasueq4479 im not saying you're wrong but theres no actual proof you're right either
@@evoke97 I suppose you are correct that its not just obviously given to the audience. Watch the scene on the boat again tho and ask yourself if Donnie really is the type of person who has regrets for committing fraud, doing drugs, marrying his relative etc etc? Or is his ambiguous confession his way of showing he regrets betraying his friend.
It's a Martin Scorsese film afterall 'based on truth', not the actual events. Scorcese is known for such subtlety.
I haven't thought about this film in years :) really glad you commented. You've reminded me what a great movie this is.
He can eat a raw living fish, but not a note?
King Eli lollll
It's not living
I love how it's such a heavy scene and there's so many complex things going on, but it's still a lunch with the guys, and he's like "you going to eat that last piece of yellow tail bud"? Lmfao 🤣🤣
I'm reading the comments on how Donnie was the one who ratted on Jordan first and it makes sense. Donnie's mood changed after seeing the note because he realized he really did betray a loyal friend. And seeing how Jordan was willing to risk himself for his best friend while Donnie was okay giving everyone and everything up made him realize what a shitty person he was. Just my thought
yes. it was subtle and really good acting by Jonah Hill. Very good actor
Jonah got him soo good on the sushi scene he almost breaks characters and starts laughing 😂😂😂💯 golden
3:17 Most satisfying part of the whole movie for me. Waited like 3 hours for him to finally get busted 😂
Bruh wtf
@@sicksadworld765 What?
@CKP101 can tell the kind of "man" youre gonna grow up to be.
@CKP101 he was a scammer why would you root for him
@cK1p Guys who worship The Wolf of Wall Street are the exact kind of people that would be on the OTHER end of one of his phone calls btw.
Why wouldn't you destroy the note!?
Exactly!!!.. What a dumbass!!!
Why would Jordan have even let Donnie take it?
Because he fucking trusted him guys he was there from the beginning and he stayed til the end who would‘ve expected that bitch move from him in Jordan‘s place
Donnie is not the kinda fuker you could ever trust..You learned from when we first meet him when he left his job to work for Jordan. When a better deal is there Donnie will take it and leave you in the dust..
why WOULD he!! After a life of excess without consequences, of course he'd slip!!
Imagine working in an office, and having the FBI bust in like that! I wish that this clip included the whole scene.
I haven't read the book but I heard that there was a guy that killed himself Infront of everybody in the office during the raid.
When Jordan offers Donnie the yellowtail, that was improvised, but Scorsese (the director) liked it so he kept it in. The problem for Leo was that he had to do that scene around 30 times so he had to eat 30 of those yellow tails things.
Griffin Lamp Source?
Elias6233 A connan interview with Jonah hill 2013
Griffin Lamp yeah and then threw up after
You can hear Leo unexpectedly asking “Can I get this” at 2:26 and Jonah Hill immediately trying to cover up his laughter. :)
30 times? Since when did Scorsese turn into Kubrick?
4:15 LMAO that guy is hilarious
Nah it’s corny and cringe
Love how Jordan tried to protect his friend. I don’t know why more people who wear wires don’t do that lol. 😂😂
Well, most other people that wear a wire better not be stupid enough to admit it. It’s still snitching at the end of the day❌🐀
@@TheDoubleKup but you have no choice but to wear one. If u tell em that ur wearing one, u can at least help them
@@ChecoWasHere Ion blame you tho shit that's why I stay to myself🤣
A lot of wire situations are involving people who can and will kill you if they know you have association with law enforcement especially law enforcement resourceful enough to set up a sting.
Funny thing in real life Donny rat out Belfort about this when he was under investigation himself and Belfort even got time added to his sentence...
I think it's a good example for when your ass really is on the line friendship takes the walk really quick...
So I know this is based on a true story, so I would assume Steve Madden was the main reason the real Jordan bealfort got caught
There’s absolutely no way I would have left that room without that piece of paper. I would have shredded the thing first chance I got.
Easier said than done, he's got so much on his mind the paper is the last thing he can remember
I didn't gather at all that it was Donnie who gave up the note.. I know I'm not very perceptive but I don't think it fits his character either. Also I also have a hard time believing the fbi would cut him much slack just for turning in that note, idk
Agreed. it could be found there or whatsoever
according to the book this movie is based off of, donnie didn't rat him out. they found the note when they raided his office.
In the script for the movie, Donnie slips the note into his pocket. When the FBI shows the note Belfort says in a voiceover, "Donnie Azoff, my partner. My best
friend." This scene was cut.
Yes i saw an interview with jordan and he said they combined several characters into one and it wasnt donnie (real name danny) who turned him in. They did find the note though that part is true
Me too, i just assumed they found it somehow.
The guy with the bow-tie and the goldfish would be happy to hear about all this.
Setting the napkin over the note was almost like a plea for it to go away. He wished he didnt see it, and tries to go back with conversating.
The scene with the 3 FBI agents looking at him is so perfect
0:27. Idk why, but love that moment. So subtle.
This is similar to the diner scene in Goodfellas. They’re both the moments before betrayal. In Goodfellas, Henry feels betrayed when he realises Jimmy was sending him off to get whacked while posing as his friend leading to Henry ratting him out. Here Donnie feels betrayed about Jordan wearing a wire and hence rats him out even though Jordan was just looking out for him. It’s a neat parallel between the two films.
He dodnt rat they found it
@@gabriel7932 no Donnie does indeed rat on Jordan. That’s why he was deleting files on the computer while the FBI raided Stratton Oakmont. He knew they were coming and was trying to appeal for a lighter sentence.
@@richos07 i feel like they wouldve made it more obvious if that was the case
@@gabriel7932 think they wanted the audience to read between the lines
@@gabriel7932 also pay attention to the interaction between Jordan and Donnie when they were eating sushi. Initially Donnie was so glad to see Jordan again and once he sees the note, his tone changes. He looks hurt and you can tell he went from excited to see his pal to complete uncertainty. Because of that, he tips off the FBI with the note.
The law enforcement official reading the plea agreement ("That'd be good.") also played the realtor in The Departed ("And are you a...married state police detective?"). Fun fact!
UltimaForsan101 wow nice Fucking catch dude
He was also one of Katharine Hepburn's relatives in "The Aviator"
That’s where I recognized him from!
@@willpurnell6161 Oh yeah! A real Scorsese regular.
The look DiCaprio gives him when he realizes he has to eat that yellowtail 😅
That scene is so sad! Donny's hope fading in his eyes when he realizes what is actually happening on and goes on talking about superficial platitudes! 😳
2:30 Donnie puts his left hand down and it becomes a right hand 😂
4:03 apparently Donnie didnt know you can select multiple files and delete them at the same time lmfao
Such a great scene. You could feel Donny’s heart sink.
Skipped the best part of all: the fed guy riding the subway home in his same suit
the best thing about this movie is that at the end we’re supposed to feel sorry for the thieving little bastards
the way the sushi is filmed at 1:14 is brilliant to this scene!
why?
they're eating sushi for lunch champ ,,,not much more to read into it i think
Wasn't it because the guy who owns the sushi franchise got Jordan caught because they busted him with Jordan's banker
A now ex-girlfriend of my and I use to have lunch @ this Japanese place on the Upper East Side. That is exactly how it is to be presented.
You know fun fact, jonah hill kept putting raw sushi in his plate and they did that scene like 10 times and each time, leo ate raw fish. He got really really sick after
that guy adores harming himself unnecessarily on the set, it is thoroughly proved
Even after hurting his hand in Django Unchained.
First rule of crime: Think and dont get caught!!! He left a piece of paper behind he should have eaten, literally eaten, and the FBI found it?
Jonah Hill said in an interview this to be his most challenging scene of his entire career. Think it was in Ellen.
Lol but he made Leo eat all that fish
The FBI agent was the actual badass of the movie.
Nah man, he lost.
Jonah hill played the comic relief for the whole movie and in this one scene delivers the best acting in the movie. So much said in such simple dialogue
Now this right here is a true friend. He didn't give his friends up for anything.
he destroyed the lives of many but still smirks
3:58 deleting my search history before mom needs to use the computer
Arguably the only flaw in the film is the note he passes Donnie. It doesn’t make sense. How did they get it? At first it seems maybe Donnie turned too and gave him up, but then we see him deleting records, so that doesn’t add up either. And the fed almost theatrically presents the note in a little bag as some kind of evidence.
It does sort of ring of goodfellas where everything just wraps up in such an oddly succinct way.
All he had to do was reach up and take that bit of paper back after Donny read it. One slight movement. God damnit.
2:25 - in such an intense scene, you get a moment that Jonah, Leo and Marty actually remember as an improvised scene that was actually a prank comeback by Jonah to Leo
For the first time, Jordan is empathetic and for the first time and he's the one who gets betrayed by his friend, i was expecting Jordan to betray donnie and not the other way around 😭 deserved tho
The law student already betrayed them tho but this betrayal was more shocking bc Jordan tried to protect donnie
It’s crazy the emotions movies can make feel while watching them. It’s like they can almost make you feel bad for that piece of sh!t for a minute and even forget he is garbage in the first place haha.
Fake friends
Elvis Car Reviews nice mustang
Goblin Big Boss Donnie gave the yellow paper to the police, he ratted Jordan out to get off lightly
Thats what happened there?? That went right over my head
Robert Johnson cause you’re dumb
its 'because', not 'cause'
0:38 This actor also appears in 'The Departed' as the real estate broker that sells an apartment to Sulluvan (Matt Damon's character). I was wondering where do I recognize him from.
Well both films were made by Martin Scorsese. So that should have something to do with it
Looks like Eric Taylor gave up being a coach to be an FBI agent.
Jonah Hill is such an amazing actor.
The guy that reads the terms of collaboration also plays the real estate guy that leases the apartment to Matt Damon in The Departed. Marty must like him for small roles or something, or is there some in-joke easter egg type of intertextuality I'm not getting.
The same apartment where Mark Wahlberg shoots him at the end?
Hearing different things. Donnie ratted on him (why would he delete files next scene though) or FBI went through the bins. Which is true?
Can’t believe Donnie betrayed him
Omg I couldn’t imagine having a room so big you have to walk to get someone to hear you 😆 2:52 He went from to a tiny cell..
@3:38 when reality kicks in and you are bound to face the consequences of your actions
2:28 Donny uses his left hand to pick up the napkin, but the next shot shows his right hand and then back to the left as he sits back in his chair 😄
is there anything on the book about this paper, it doesnt looks real to me
This is one of Jonathans best scenes
4:09 Oh yeah, he`s in trouble now.
This is the moment where Jordan realized the position he was in no money and no friends
Jonah said on Ellen that this scene was “the end of donny and Jordan’s friendship” and that they are trying to communicate parting words to each other without saying it. (Go search it) so I personally think Donny is the rat because if he really cared, he would have kept in contact & the friendship would have continued. & on top of that, the guy was legit deleting stuff expecting them to come and raid. He did not give a toss about Jordan knowing that he was going tf down. My only question is why
Not putting the note in a paper shredder afterwards was such a stupid decision 🤦♂️
2:36 he's scratching his forehead 2:37 Boom he's holding sticks
siv1994 lol movie mistakes lol
If you don't have a pen, you can't write that note
Why didn't he get rid of the note?
Three things Jordan should have thought of or shouldn’t have done:
1. Just because he bribed two police officers over one gay butler, it doesn’t mean he can bribe a fully committed FBI agent.
2. Make sure you don’t do anything with the Swiss guy, don’t deliver millions of dollars to his bank, or at least try to be friends with him rather than business associates.
3. KEEP ANONYMOUS NOTES IN YOUR POCKET AND THROW IT AWAY SO NOBODY SEES IT!!!
2:24 can i get my award for this role too?
When I was watching this as it came out, it flew wayy over my head that Donnie betrayed Jordan..
Donnie realizing that the journey had ended…
I just go here to watch where Jonah Hill payback to Leo in eating the sushi absolutely funny af. Hahahahaha
2:19 if donnie wouldn't even eat the god damn yellow tail...
This is the scene were donnie realizes its ALL OVER.... everything they built. There lifestyle's everything
How did Feds get that note
People think Donnie gave it to them to save himself, but there's speculation that they found it while snooping through his office
Why didn’t he just eat the note after he showed it to Donnie?
The only explanation that makes sense is that Donnie ratted out Jordan.
How come when the FBI found the note, they instantly put him in jail
It was a violation of his agreement with the FBI. Once he revealed he had a wire their agreement was voided
America the beautiful
I don’t know but hearing the lemonheads while the Firm is busted always makes me laugh 😂
What I don’t get is why was Jonah Hill deleting all those messages if he had already talked to the FBI, they would have known he was into some kind of illegal business bc Jordan said not to incriminate yourself
Bc he didn’t snitch. Like you said he wouldn’t be deleting files if he snitched
Great acting
soo did donnie cheated jordan??
I read an interview with Jonah Hill and he mentions how his character in WOWS was a completely irredeemable scumbag. This scene proves it.
How did they find out about the letter?
Donnie ratted him out.
+Ka Chau no he wouldn't do that.
He did.
+Ka Chau it was implied.
+geddoe316 idk man maybe
As the old saying goes, there's no honor among thieves.